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Speaker 2: Grand Rising, pushing buttons here and Grand Rising to you,

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Speaker 2: my man, my man, on a happy Tuesday, the twenty

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Speaker 1: I'm still learning, Kevin, I'm still learning.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, a candle never loses his light when

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Speaker 1: I'm just doing a job.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that's right. I understand, like when Superman

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Speaker 1: That's right, all right, Thank thanks Kevin, Thank.

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Speaker 2: You for your time. Man, Happy Tuesday, the twenty fourth

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Speaker 4: Understand that every time Reverend Jackson went out his parents,

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Speaker 4: Here we are now and twenty twenty six celebrating the

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Speaker 4: because they were the first church to come on board.

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Speaker 4: And understand, you know, it's very difficult now for us

436
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Speaker 4: sixty one years later, particularly young people who didn't live

437
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 4: through these times, to understand just the mere fact of

438
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 4: a tend the mere act of attending a meeting, let

439
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Speaker 4: alone organizing one, let alone calling people from outside of

440
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 4: the area to come and join. The mere act of

441
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 4: joining a meeting could cost you your life. And so

442
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 4: the boldness that those as we call them, those foot

443
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 4: soldiers undertook in nineteen sixty five cannot be understated. And

444
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 4: the attempt was to march all the way to Montgomery,

445
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 4: the state capital, to demand voting rights for black folks

446
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 4: in Alabama. But of course, as we know, they did

447
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 4: not even make it.

448
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Speaker 3: Out of town.

449
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Speaker 4: There's a bridge named after the Grand Dragon, whatever Grand wizard,

450
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 4: whatever the name is, the klu Klutz Klan Edmund Pettis

451
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 4: that goes across the Alabama River, not out of some

452
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 4: but on the way out less than I would say,

453
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 4: less than two miles from Brown's Chapel Church. And when

454
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 4: they crossed the bridge, walking two by two, about I

455
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 4: would say, maybe about one hundred yards or so past

456
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 4: the other side of the bridge, there was a group

457
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 4: of police officers, both local, state, county, and additionally, previously,

458
00:25:54,240 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 4: the white elected officials had deputized every single white man

459
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 4: in Selma and in the county of Dallas County to

460
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 4: act as law enforcement. On that day and the second

461
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 4: that they got to about that one hundred yard mark

462
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 4: or so, they were set upon by a group of wild,

463
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 4: bloodthirsty animals and attacking our elders, beating, clubbing, kicking, punching.

464
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 4: As we know, John Lewis, who was then a young

465
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 4: organizer with Snick, who went on to be one of

466
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 4: the most famed members of the United States House of Representatives,

467
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 4: was beaten so badly that he had suffered brand damage

468
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 4: for the remainder of his life. We had children. The

469
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 4: youngest member of the march at that time was a

470
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 4: woman named Cheyenne Webb Christberg, who was a member of

471
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Speaker 4: the board of the Semma Bridge crossing Jubilee. She was

472
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 4: eight years old, inspired by doctor King when he came

473
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 4: to speak at Selma years before. As a young child,

474
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 4: she was there. We had people who hadn't even yet

475
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 4: made it because they were walking to a breast that

476
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 4: hadn't even made it onto the bridge. That when they

477
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 4: ran back, you had white men that came out on

478
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 4: the other side of the bridge that were attacking them.

479
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 4: So this was something that was so powerful, and not

480
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 4: that it was unprecedented and that it never happened before,

481
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 4: but that it was caught on camera and those images

482
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 4: were set around the world, and so it was something

483
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 4: at that point because mind you, obviously nineteen sixty five,

484
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 4: we had had no shortage of voting rights marches, there

485
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 4: had been no shortage of protests, you know, there had

486
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 4: been no shortage of activity in Selma and other parts

487
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 4: of the South. But this was a time that the

488
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 4: government in the world could not deny the brutality that

489
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 4: was being set upon our people simply for quietly and

490
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 4: peacefully requesting that their constitutional rights for full citizenship be recognized.

491
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 4: So that's what we do every year, Carl. We come

492
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 4: and we not only celebrate that, but this be important,

493
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 4: the most important part of our weekend. A lot of

494
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 4: times I hear the pushback saying, you know, we should

495
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 4: be celebrating. Our commemoration is a commemoration of action. You know,

496
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 4: there are far too many people who focus just on

497
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 4: our weekend of Sunday, the March that happens on the Sunday,

498
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 4: and this, this commemoration happens the first weekend in March

499
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 4: of every year. And just like those who will just

500
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 4: you know, focus on political issues once every four years,

501
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 4: are focused on social issues. When they turn on the news,

502
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 4: they'll look at Sunday and think that that's all we do.

503
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 4: But all week long there are activities that are going on,

504
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 4: not just partying and dancing. Yess, we have a musical festival,

505
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 4: but overwhelmingly the majority of this are conferences, workshops, teachings, trainings,

506
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 4: educational operas. We have about four different components specifically focused

507
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 4: on educating young people not just about the history, but

508
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 4: how to use that history and advocating for themselves. Today,

509
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 4: we have every major civil rights organization and civil liberties

510
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 4: organization that you can think of that take part, not

511
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 4: just walking with us on Sunday, yes, they do that,

512
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 4: but actually giving their trainings, these free trainings, and providing

513
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 4: resources to how we advance our people and fighting the

514
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 4: issues of today. So this commemoration, as we call the celebration,

515
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 4: is really one of work in continuing the resilience that

516
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 4: our ancestors started out as we commemorate them from nineteen

517
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 4: sixty five.

518
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: All right, twenty six away from the top of the

519
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: other voice, you heard this, ya, Hans Gregory soon and

520
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: we're talking about what's going to happen in Selma next weekend. Actually, so, yo, HANSA,

521
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: how did they rope you into this? Because they could

522
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: have caused any of your brothers and sisters. Why did

523
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: they think they selected you?

524
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 4: You know, really, it's it's an honor that I'm privileged

525
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 4: to have.

526
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 3: And I had gone.

527
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 4: To the jubilee before as a participant before my father

528
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 4: passed away, oftentimes bringing groups of young people. However, it

529
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 4: was after my father passed and a year after he

530
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 4: passed that the semmer Bridge Crossing Jubilee, that's the organization,

531
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 4: nonprofit that actually holds the event, that they invited me

532
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 4: to accept an award of my family's behalf honoring my

533
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:25,239
Speaker 4: dad because my dad, for the over thirty years of

534
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 4: the Selmer Bridge Crossing Jubilee, had been to every single one,

535
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 4: maybe miss only one when he was out of the

536
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 4: country doing some activism work, but overwhelmingly, my father was

537
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 4: one of the core principles that was there in Selma

538
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 4: every single year and ultimately became a board member. And

539
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: so while I was there in Selma, I saw firsthand,

540
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 4: not you know, it was a chaperone dealing with all

541
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 4: of these young people, but there by myself I was

542
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 4: able to truly take part in every activity and see

543
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 4: the incredible work that this small group of volunteers, grass

544
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 4: community in the small town and Selma, Alabama do to

545
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,479
Speaker 4: host the world and Luminaries of the World every year.

546
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 4: I was so blown away, Mark, I mean I was

547
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 4: so blown away, Carl. And also understanding, right, something my

548
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 4: father would say all the time that we hold up

549
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 4: Selma for the work that they did and the sacrifices

550
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 4: that they made for voting rights. Because let's be clear,

551
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 4: we talk about Bloody Sunday because it was one of

552
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 4: the few acts of civil disobedience that immediately led to legislation,

553
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 4: you know, the Voting Rights The Voting Rights Act was

554
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 4: passed because of what happened to those foot soldiers on

555
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 4: Bloody Sunday. That was the catalyst. And so when we

556
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 4: look at that, the sad thing is my dad would

557
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 4: remind me that Selma, the city of Selma, the people

558
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 4: of Selma, paid the ultimate price because in a city

559
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 4: that was over eighty five percent black, in a county

560
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 4: that was over eighty seventy five percent black Dallas County.

561
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 4: Do you know that it took over twenty years after

562
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 4: the signing of the voting Rights Mill for Selma to

563
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 4: have their first black mayor do you know that in

564
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 4: Dallas County, where Selma sits, it wasn't until about twenty

565
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 4: twenty that they got their first black county executives. Now

566
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 4: that wasn't because of my choice. That was just to

567
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 4: speak to the level of brutality and animosity and hatred

568
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 4: that still existed in that environment. So what did that

569
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 4: do to the city of Selma. For years, the socioeconomic

570
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 4: condition of our people and some were some of the lowest,

571
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 4: not just in the country, but particularly in Alabama, which

572
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 4: was already at the lowest in the country. And you

573
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 4: see the political disenfranchisement of our people where you know,

574
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 4: lack of resources, which as we know, leads to increase

575
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 4: poverty and crime, where the death rate in Selma was

576
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 4: higher than per capita than anywhere else in the South.

577
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 4: And so those folks paid the price. And I saw

578
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 4: a first hand how Selma was left behind when I

579
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 4: was there in twenty eighteen. I saw firsthand how Somema

580
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 4: was neglected. And so I said, you know, what, what

581
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 4: can I do? And I literally went to the founder,

582
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 4: Mama fire Rose Terray and her husband, Senator Hank Sanders,

583
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 4: and I said, what can I do? Because you know,

584
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 4: Big Gregory instilled in his children a spirit of fierce

585
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 4: and active resistance. And they let me know some opportunities

586
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 4: and particularly they said, we'd be we would love it

587
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 4: if you would take your father's place on the board

588
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 4: of directors. And so that's how I've been blessed to

589
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 4: be involved in doing this work now for about eight

590
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 4: years now. So it's truly my hunter and my privilege

591
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 4: to continue to help the legacy bearon Selma.

592
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: All right, Oh, that's all right. Then we got to

593
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: check the news trafficking weather at different cities. Why don't

594
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: we come back there. I want you to respond to

595
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: this question. So some folks feel we shouldn't we should

596
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: ignore this because he's too painful for them to watch.

597
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: Our brothers and sisters came and beat just trying to

598
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: cross a bridge. I want you you react to that.

599
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: When we get back, family, you two can join our

600
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: conversation with our guests. Johansea Gregory. Reach out to us

601
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Speaker 1: at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six

602
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: and we'll take your phone calls after we check the news.

603
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: That's next and Grand Rising family, thanks for starting your

604
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: Tuesday morning with us. It's fifteen away from the top

605
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Speaker 1: of the out with our guests, johanse Gregory, he's one

606
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: of Dick Gregory's sons. Before we go back, then, let

607
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: me just remind you come up later this morning. We'll

608
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: speak with the President General of the Universal of African

609
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: People's Organization, w Zaki Burrudi. Before we reach brother Zaki,

610
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: though La actress doctor Rosa Milligan will check in, and

611
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: later this week the Master Teacher will be here. Anshar

612
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: A Quasi, also attorney Fire Rose at Tarey, historian Michael

613
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: Hamiltap and also chematologist Tony Brown are all going to

614
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: be here this week. So if you're in Baltimore, make

615
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: sure you keep you ready to locked to ten ten WLB,

616
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: or if you're in the DMV family, we will roll

617
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Speaker 1: in on fourteen fifty w ol So johanse I met

618
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Speaker 1: you finish your response to my question, and brother g

619
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Speaker 1: has a question for you.

620
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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly. So.

621
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Speaker 4: You know my sister Ayana who you know. It's a

622
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 4: friend of the show, friend of he was, who you

623
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 4: know her and her talent. She does a great deal

624
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 4: of work with young people as she does her one

625
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 4: woman show, Daughter of the Struggle around the country. And

626
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 4: one thing that she reminds us of is that we've

627
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 4: got young people today, Carl, who think that Harriet Tubman

628
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 4: and Martin Luther King were contemporary, right. And I say

629
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 4: that because as we've moved forward and taken advantage of

630
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 4: the sacrifice and the work that our ancestors had done,

631
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 4: we've also gotten extremely comfortable and complacent.

632
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 5: Right.

633
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 4: And I'm not just talking about young folks who are

634
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 4: going to school in horribly underfunded conditions. I'm talking about

635
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 4: young people in some of the more affluent black counties

636
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 4: in this country right now. Because we've taken that baton,

637
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 4: as my father would say that had been handed to

638
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 4: us from our elders, and we've enjoyed these comforts, but

639
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 4: we haven't continued to do the work of making sure.

640
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 4: You know, so many folks say never again. So this

641
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 4: idea that the realities of the past were too difficult

642
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 4: to look at, to remember, to you know, to talk

643
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 4: about again. It's bloody Sunday. We're not celebrating some wedding

644
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 4: anniversary or birthday. We're celebrating and we're remembering not the brutality,

645
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 4: but the victory that came from that. But within celebrating

646
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 4: that victory, we're remembering that victory was paid with blood. Right,

647
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 4: and so now the condition that we're in the very

648
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 4: situation that we're in right now in this country where

649
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 4: we're on the borderline. I just you know, heard the

650
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Speaker 4: tromo during the break for Iley Gareema's upcoming film Black

651
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Speaker 4: Lions Roman Wolves, which I'm also working with, and encourage

652
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Speaker 4: everyone to get out and see this Friday at the

653
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Speaker 4: Lincoln Theater.

654
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Speaker 3: Please.

655
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Speaker 4: This is the type of system that we're fighting against,

656
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 4: the fascist system that people, too many people think can't

657
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 4: happen again today. Do you know that some of the

658
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 4: greatest scholars around World War two, not just the Holocaust,

659
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Speaker 4: but with World War two, and specifically Nazi Germany would

660
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Speaker 4: talk about that up to not just the beginning of

661
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 4: quote unquote the Holocaust, but remember the gas chambers and

662
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 4: the concentration camps were at the tail end. So even

663
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Speaker 4: after the Holocaust already began with the oppression of Jews

664
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Speaker 4: and the rights in Germany that years, and there were

665
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Speaker 4: middle class Jews who fought that everything was going to

666
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Speaker 4: be okay, that hey, you know, we wait to the

667
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 4: next election, you know, we wait till the next midterm,

668
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 4: and that we're talking to here, that everything's going to

669
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Speaker 4: be okay. And so for us, and that's why they

670
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Speaker 4: say never again. And we have to be as equally

671
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Speaker 4: as vigilant. Yes it is painful, Yes it is difficult,

672
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 4: but we are already so far down the road towards

673
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Speaker 4: eroding so much of this that these foot soldiers and

674
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 4: other civil rights loom. They's fought with blood sweatings. Here's

675
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 4: so many of their lives to losing that we can't

676
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Speaker 4: afford to close, to turn a blind eye and closure

677
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 4: to our own history, to our own history. So yes,

678
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Speaker 4: some parts of our history are difficult. In our painful,

679
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Speaker 4: but we must remember the beauty like the phoenix that

680
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Speaker 4: arose out of that pain.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha tan away from the top. Brother G's checking in

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Speaker 1: from the district. He has a question for you. Is

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Speaker 1: online too, Grand Rising Brother G.

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Speaker 6: Jan Gregory Grand Rising Brothers. First, I want to say

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Speaker 6: Dick Gregory is one of the most influence you.

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Speaker 7: People in my life.

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Speaker 3: Because of Dick Gregory and.

688
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Speaker 6: Reading his book Cooking with Mother Nature that was given

689
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Speaker 6: by my mother that I've been a vegetarian for the

690
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 6: last thirty years. If I wanted to ask, but his son.

691
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Speaker 6: With the release of the Estines Fou, everybody was more

692
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Speaker 6: open to conspiracy therapy. But the first send a brain

693
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Speaker 6: the conspiracy theory theory to the black community was your father.

694
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Speaker 6: How did your father first come across looking things from

695
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Speaker 6: alternative way and what people describe as conspiracy theories but

696
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 6: this pattern recognition and collusion. How did he first get

697
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Speaker 6: into investigating these things that were on the surface and

698
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Speaker 6: go deeper and explaining them to the black community.

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Speaker 4: The question and thank you for sharing your story inspiration,

700
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Speaker 4: Brother G. The role that my father had in your life.

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Speaker 4: So of all the work that my father did from

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Speaker 4: civil rights to business to comedy. When people ask me

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Speaker 4: what of those were the most powerful and was he

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Speaker 4: most active in, I tell them something that they don't

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00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 4: often think of. That was spirituality. My father was a

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Speaker 4: spiritual master. And it was through that spirituality that you know,

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Speaker 4: Carl as you know, almost every one of his birthdays

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Speaker 4: or half birthdays, he be alone somewhere in the world,

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Speaker 4: uh and silent prayer of meditation, not eating, not drinking,

710
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 4: not talking, just truly meditating and turn and tuning in.

711
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Speaker 4: And it was through many of those spiritual guides that

712
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Speaker 4: he met through his work in the civil rights movement

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Speaker 4: that tapped into that inner spirituality that was already there,

714
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Speaker 4: that caused him to question right and truly open things up.

715
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Speaker 4: The things that my dad would share with me throughout

716
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Speaker 4: my life as a child, sometimes they were unfathable to

717
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Speaker 4: be able to truly grasp. But seeing how he was

718
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Speaker 4: able to so deeply focus in and tune in on

719
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Speaker 4: that spiritual vibration, the true spiritual vibration out of religion,

720
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Speaker 4: as he would say, not isam or on osam, but

721
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Speaker 4: the true universal energy of the Creator, allowed him just

722
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Speaker 4: to question those things that became basical. So it started

723
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Speaker 4: really with that, and with the questioning, and with any

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Speaker 4: of us are able to do that right, because it's

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Speaker 4: turning off, it's turning off all the distractions. You ask

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Speaker 4: a young person today, tell me ten people in your

727
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 4: contact list on your phone, their names and numbers. I

728
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Speaker 4: couldn't do it. Remember twenty years ago, thirty years ago,

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Speaker 4: all of us remembered about at least fifty names, number

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Speaker 4: and addresses. All of these things, these distractions have dumbed

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Speaker 4: us down. And so when you get in that place

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Speaker 4: of quiet stillness, you don't have to be a mastermind

733
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Speaker 4: for some basic reality to come to you.

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Speaker 3: So that's what he would.

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Speaker 4: Remind us of. You know, still your mind in that

736
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Speaker 4: God force, that intelligence that is here, it's not foreign

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Speaker 4: to you, it was born within you. But we have

738
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Speaker 4: all of these distractions that turned that down, that dimmed

739
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Speaker 4: that light. So one of that, that clear example of that,

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Speaker 4: that that that inherent intelligence within all of us, is

741
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Speaker 4: you're telling me that this idea of the Epstein's the

742
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 4: quote unquote conspiracy theory. We've got a billionaire who financed

743
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 4: even greater billionaires around the world for over two decades,

744
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 4: trafficked young women and girls around the world, on private jets,

745
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Speaker 4: and we've got bank we got bank transactions and all that,

746
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 4: and yet only two people, two people were arrested. You

747
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 4: got some drug operation run by a street gang in

748
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Speaker 4: one of our communities, and you've got hundreds of people arrested.

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Speaker 4: Now we talk about Rico. If this isn't the perfect

750
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Speaker 4: example of what should be a Rico case, I don't

751
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Speaker 4: know what is.

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Speaker 8: So it's really was.

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Speaker 4: Asking those just those basic questions. And then when he

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Speaker 4: would do that, you had individuals who did work, you know,

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Speaker 4: we would call them whistleblowers today, that did work within

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Speaker 4: these organizations, whether it be businesses, whether government agencies and

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00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 4: name it. There who were too scared or unprotected to

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Speaker 4: speak out on their own. So they would reach out

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Speaker 4: to my father and say, you know, brother Dick, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm a janitor here, you know, but I've discovered x

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Speaker 4: y Z. Are I hear them talking about x y Z?

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Speaker 4: And would often plant that scene, either providing documents directly

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Speaker 4: or just even plant the seed that my father, being

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Speaker 4: the fearless, bold warrior that he was, would would jump

765
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,959
Speaker 4: into head on because he was fearless in that way.

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Speaker 4: But really it was that universal God for us that

767
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 4: he was tapped into that caused them to initially ask

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Speaker 4: the question that protected him for this eighty four plus

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Speaker 4: years of life that then was a hallmarket beacon for

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Speaker 4: so many of those nameless individuals throughout the country to

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Speaker 4: reach out to him and share and knew that he

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Speaker 4: would be able to have the protection on the national

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Speaker 4: level and often international level to make this information known

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Speaker 4: not just within our community, but to the world community.

775
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 4: And as Carls you know, and we won't get into

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Speaker 4: it again now here, but it was my father and

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Speaker 4: my mother that broke the news relighting the Melee massacred

778
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Speaker 4: which exposed the atrocities that the US military was committing

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Speaker 4: in Vietnam.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: So it wasn't just national and it wasn't just within

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Speaker 4: the black community, but truly internationally in many cases, changing

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Speaker 4: the courses, changing the course of global history.

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Speaker 1: All Right, five five away from the top day with you,

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Speaker 1: Anse Gregor is talking about his dad and his dad

786
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Speaker 1: we're here today. He'd be at the in Selma this weekend,

787
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Speaker 1: would you say so, Yonte yep.

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Speaker 4: Next weekend, So we'll there March fifth to March eighth,

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Speaker 4: and Selma, Alabama. I encourage those that are interested in

790
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 4: just learning more and learning more to visit our website,

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00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 4: which is Selma Jubilee dot com. And again, don't take

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Speaker 4: my word for it, because again I think almost every year,

793
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Speaker 4: because oftentimes we're talking, we're having this conversation when I'm

794
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 4: in Selma. Hopefully we'll have the opportunity to do that

795
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 4: so I can report on the ground of what's happening.

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00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 4: Because this is a critical it's a critical year, and

797
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 4: we know this of what's going on in this country.

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Speaker 4: We'd ask people that would often give that question, why

799
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 4: are we commemorating, Why are we celebrating? Please go to

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Speaker 4: the website Selma jubileeve dot com. Look at the schedule.

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00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 4: You will see there there is more work that we

802
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 4: do in this one weekend in Selma than most organizations

803
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 4: do in their entire year, than in many cases many

804
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 4: people do in their entire lives when it comes to

805
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 4: organizing and motivating our brothers and sisters around furthering the

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Speaker 4: advancement of our people.

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Speaker 3: So absolutely too.

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Speaker 1: Now hold up, they're right there. We got to check

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Speaker 1: the traffic and we're in a different cities when we

810
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Speaker 1: come back. I got a tweet twot to ones to

811
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Speaker 1: know your dad's thought about protesting your marching, and he

812
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 1: wants to know how you feel about protesting and marching

813
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: these days. If that's if that's old old school is

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Speaker 1: the person put it in the tweet three year away

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Speaker 1: from the top they have family. We got with you,

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Speaker 1: hanse Gregor, you're discussing the commemoration of the Selma the

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Speaker 1: Bloody Sunday. What are your thoughts? You two can join

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Speaker 1: this discussion. Reach out to us at eight hundred four

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Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six and ticket phone calls

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Speaker 1: after we check the traffic with it. It's next and

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Speaker 1: Grand Rising family. Thanks for rolling with us on this

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Speaker 1: Tuesday morning with our guest Johansei Gregory is one of

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Speaker 1: Dick Gregory's suns and he said, giving us a preview

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Speaker 1: of Bloody Sunday in Selma, they're going to have a

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00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,959
Speaker 1: commemoration coming up in a couple of weeks. A question

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Speaker 1: that the tweeter didn't want to call in and he said,

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Speaker 1: but he says, is marching protesting out of style old schools?

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Speaker 1: Should we be doing something else to protest? You wanted

829
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Speaker 1: to fire your thoughts on about that.

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Speaker 9: Johanse certainly and I understand the question, and I appreciate it.

831
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 9: But again that shows how history has been truncated to

832
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Speaker 9: cliff notes. Right, is marching and protesting necessarily the absolutely

833
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 9: first because it brings attension, right, It brings attension that

834
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Speaker 9: otherwise people.

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Speaker 4: Would not often see and know in many cases. But

836
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 4: the other aspect of it is is with the movement, right,

837
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Speaker 4: because the movement wasn't just about a march or a protest.

838
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:58,959
Speaker 3: This was a movement.

839
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Speaker 4: Bloody Sunday was and.

840
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Speaker 3: A one off.

841
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 4: Rosa Parks wasn't a runoff of one off. She was

842
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 4: part of a larger movement that had been in place

843
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 4: for years before that segued into a pre planned movement

844
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Speaker 4: of demonstration. It's all of the other things that are

845
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 4: going on public uh, you know, public resistance, right, That

846
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 4: civil disobedience is one aspect of that demonstration process. And

847
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 4: so what we see is the education that's going on

848
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Speaker 4: behind the scenes, as I mentioned, as we do with

849
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 4: the Summer Bridge Crossings jubilee, the workshops, the trainings, bringing

850
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 4: people together on a common cause of this idea that

851
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 4: we just all are going to agree that you know,

852
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 4: one thing is bad, so you know, uh, racism is

853
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 4: bad slavery's.

854
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 3: Bad sexist babigan.

855
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 4: Now we actually have to come together and formulate policies.

856
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 4: The other things that people didn't see is the negotiating

857
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 4: that goes on behind the scenes, also sharing the information

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00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 4: in I cannot come on this radio station right here

859
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 4: without giving extreme thanks to one of my not only

860
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 4: one of my father's great friends, friends of the family,

861
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 4: but a true tireless warror in our community, Kathy Used.

862
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 4: Kathy Used as a businesswoman right was also an activist

863
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 4: and spreading the world to this day of promoting and

864
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 4: informing folks about things going on in our community that

865
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 4: we otherwise wouldn't know. So it was the black business owners,

866
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Speaker 4: the black churches, the black funeral homes, the black dry

867
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 4: cleaners companies within our communities that were all part of

868
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 4: this movement. When people gave up, when people demonstrated in

869
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 4: Montgomery and didn't take the buses.

870
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 3: How do you think they got to work right?

871
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 4: How do you think they got to work for over

872
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 4: a year when we saw people that lost their jobs

873
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 4: because they were part of a demonstration, how do you

874
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 4: think they're provided and survived and took care of their families.

875
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 4: There was a larger movement that was going on, and

876
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Speaker 4: the first and most public facing part of that not

877
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 4: the first part, but the most public facing part of

878
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 4: that movement is marches and protests, and so yes, it's

879
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 4: not the only thing, just like it wasn't the only

880
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 4: thing there. And I would invite those who have those

881
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 4: questions should we be doing this? Join Black Lives Matter,

882
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 4: join a Black Voters Matter, Join the NAACP, join any

883
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 4: of these organizations within our community. Come to Selma right

884
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 4: on the first weekend in March, and see everything else

885
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 4: that is going on. Because what we're doing, we're using

886
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 4: that front facing demonstration to get the world's attention to

887
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 4: highlight the work that's being done to bring about real

888
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 4: social change.

889
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: All right, hold up one right there before you go,

890
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: Mark as in Baltimore, is a quick question for you.

891
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: He's online too, Grand rise in Mark, you're on with you,

892
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: Hans and Gregory.

893
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 10: I guess that. Good morning, gentlemen. Right, interesting discussion. I

894
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 10: belonged to a local civic association for the part of

895
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 10: born in a city, Maryland. It's a mixed community of

896
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 10: African American, Jewish, Hispanic and career.

897
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: Sounded like, Mark, you're still there sat we lost market.

898
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: It's like it seemed like he hung up and.

899
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Speaker 4: Carl, I don't know what his question was going to be,

900
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 4: but just from the president, one of the things we

901
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 4: must remember, and my father would harp on this when

902
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 4: he talks about this coalition. Now more than ever, we

903
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 4: must act community. If we don't understand from this that

904
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 4: we've got a comment entity. If we can't understand from

905
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 4: what we're dealing with now, there is not a single

906
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 4: group that is not represented by the mainstream white male

907
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 4: in this country that is not under attack from those

908
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 4: that historically been disenfranchised, like our community to every other

909
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 4: thing in the middle. Remember when we talk about the

910
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 4: cancelation of DEI, it was actually black folks that when

911
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 4: you look at the list, I think we came in

912
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 4: sixth place from how we benefited from the eye policies. Overwhelmingly.

913
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 4: You had white women that were before us, You had

914
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 4: people with disabilities that when you look at the numbers

915
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 4: statistically as far as job and wealth creation, black folks

916
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 4: came in sixth place.

917
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: Of right thought right there, because we're going to talk

918
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: about that with doctor Rosa Miligan. But Mark is back. Mark,

919
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you finish your question for.

920
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 10: You answer Greg, Yes, good morning, can you hear me? Okay, sure, okay,

921
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 10: thank you, Okay. I'm one of a civic association. As

922
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 10: I said before, it's a community with a mixture of

923
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 10: African American, Jewish, Hispanic and Caribbean folks. And I wanted

924
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 10: to know do you have people that come to meeting?

925
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 10: Do you have speakers from people or some materials that

926
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 10: they've provided our meeting that we can disseminate in our

927
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 10: various communities learning how to get together with h and

928
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 10: learn how to live with one another to achieve those ideals.

929
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 10: I don't know you go to meeting, public meeting, community

930
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 10: meetings or what do you all do in this case?

931
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 11: Thank you?

932
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, Carl, I would give some information and links

933
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 4: to the station if Mark wants to follow up directly

934
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 4: the station offline to be able to get that information.

935
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 4: I also recommend that you go to the our website

936
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 4: some of jubilee dot com and look at some of

937
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 4: the resources and materials there because just like we talk

938
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 4: about coalition, you will see from the schedule and from

939
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 4: the activities that are offered there, we've got folks from

940
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 4: every disenfranchised marginalized community that are presenting from our community,

941
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 4: from the lgbt t I community, from the immigrant rights community,

942
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 4: to those that are issues that are focusing on faith

943
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 4: based discrimination and working coalition of faith based, faith based activists,

944
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 4: you name it across the board, we are absolutely working

945
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 4: in coalition.

946
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 1: Just like yeah, right there, HANSA one more quick caller

947
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: for before we let you go. Bob's and Buffalo. He's online,

948
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: three grand rise and Bobby on with Jo Hans and Gregory.

949
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: It's about there online three. I'm not hearing Bob, all right,

950
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: let me know you can hear me? Yeah, we can

951
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: hear now, go ahead.

952
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 5: Bobby, can you hear me?

953
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: Can you hear me?

954
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: Sure? Go ahead?

955
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:19,959
Speaker 7: Okay, great.

956
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 3: One quick comment.

957
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 5: When you talk about prayer and.

958
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 12: Meditation, it's not just what you say, but it's also

959
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 12: what you listen to and hear. As you cross the

960
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 12: Edmund Pettis Bridge, I will make a suggestion that the

961
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 12: name of John Lewis be added to the name of.

962
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 5: That bridge, so it will be forever known as the

963
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 5: John Lewis Edmand Pettis Bridge, so that it can show

964
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 5: that John Lewis, through his efforts, conquered the efforts of

965
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 5: the Edmund Pettish Bridge. Don't change the name. Keep it

966
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 5: so people can refer to it in history, but let

967
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 5: it be known further on as the John Lewis Pettish Bridge.

968
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: Interesting, thanks, Bob Janse.

969
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 4: So that is a question that has come up for years,

970
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 4: decades really, and one that Congressman Lewis himself weighed in on.

971
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 4: So you know, I when that question comes up, I

972
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 4: let folks know that I defer to those and Selman,

973
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 4: those in the family of John Lewis, because there were

974
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 4: multiple discussions for years, again with Congressman Lewis himself weighing

975
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 4: in on that. So I'll leave to those there who

976
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 4: were directly affected every day by that history in Selma

977
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 4: and in the Lewis family.

978
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: All right, Jans and forward, let you go. How can

979
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: folks get more information again about big commemoration of Bloody Sunday.

980
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 4: Again, please visit our website at www dot Selma Jubilee

981
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 4: dot com. And before I step off, like I said, Carl,

982
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 4: just like my dad, we we wear many hats in

983
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 4: this movement. It's not just one thing. And so I

984
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 4: want to echo the words of your guests yesterday. The

985
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 4: agreements highly and Striquiana Greema and encourage folks to get

986
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 4: out and support. You know, we talk about okay, we

987
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 4: don't just want to demonstrate it, don't just want to march. Well,

988
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 4: part of it means putting our dollars to work and

989
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 4: supporting the works that are holding up our education in

990
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 4: our community. And here's the perfect opportunity. So for that,

991
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 4: please support the fundraising event for SANKOFA Visit sankopa dot

992
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 4: com for the JUBI for the Galley event this Friday,

993
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 4: February twenty seventh at the Lincoln Theater. And again understand

994
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 4: that my dad would say, get involved with an organization. Yes,

995
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 4: it may be the some of the Bridge Crossing Jubilee,

996
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 4: It may be the NAACP, it may be the SELC.

997
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:41,959
Speaker 4: It may be Black Voters Matter, it may be Black

998
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 4: Lives Matter, whatever it is, get in coalition.

999
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 8: Come on out to the.

1000
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 3: Third and Marshall Center regularly.

1001
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 4: And here you know one of your regular guests, one

1002
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 4: of our brilliant scholars, Bobby Toni Browner. You know, this

1003
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 4: is again a living legend that we have in our presence.

1004
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 4: That's one a huge supporter of SANKOPA and also a

1005
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 4: huge supporter of the Jubilee, So for those who love Barbatoni.

1006
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 4: For years he would give workshops, free workshops and Selma

1007
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 4: at the Jubilee. Longtime friend there. So understand that this

1008
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 4: work is connected. Get involved, don't do it by yourself.

1009
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 4: Get involved with the organization and see how those organizations

1010
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 4: are working in collaboration and coalition for our true liberation.

1011
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: All right, Densefore you go, Please say hi to your

1012
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: mom and the rest of the Gregory family and thank

1013
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: you and thanking again for lone and us Dick Gregory

1014
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: because he used a lot of time on the radio

1015
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: where he could have been home with the family. So

1016
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: just thank you again, especially your mom.

1017
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 4: Absolutely. And I know you're going to have an amaze

1018
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 4: always you always asked me to say hello to you,

1019
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 4: and just thank you for your tireless work and letting

1020
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 4: our community, not just our community, but folks around the

1021
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 4: world know how important it is that the advancement of

1022
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 4: our struggle and our commitment to it and hosting folks

1023
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 4: like myself and featuring.

1024
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 3: Programs like this.

1025
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 4: And I know you're going to have an amazing conversation

1026
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 4: tomorrow with our founder, Mama Fire Rose Terray. So I

1027
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 4: Thank you, Carl exafinitely keep up the great fight.

1028
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: All right, Thank you you, Hans Jns. Gregory, we want

1029
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: to think Gregory Sons.

1030
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 4: He's right.

1031
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna speak with attorney fire Rose to Rade tomorrow.

1032
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: Also we're going to speak with chemtologist Tony Browner as well. Uh,

1033
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: Grand Rising Family twelve at the top of the doctor

1034
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: Rosy Milligan, welcome back and thank you for being so

1035
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: patient with us this morning.

1036
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 11: Thank you always.

1037
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: You know, we want to talk about the job losses

1038
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: that happened that since I guess there was this cutback

1039
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: of people were getting laid off or furloughed everyway they

1040
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: want to put it. But many of those whether we're impacted,

1041
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: you know more than ever we're black women. Can you

1042
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: address that issue for us because not only black women,

1043
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: but a lot of people lost their jobs, but it

1044
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: sort of impacted black women more than others.

1045
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 11: And first question is why, Well, it's not by accidents.

1046
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 11: When we look at the dynam should make up of

1047
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 11: the African American family, we know the high amount of

1048
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 11: black women that's actually is the foundation that's holding up

1049
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 11: the black community family from an economic standpoint, where we

1050
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 11: look at those jobs that were created after World War Two,

1051
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 11: when blacks was able really moved into what we call

1052
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 11: middle class income because they moved from the kitchen from

1053
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 11: a housework and they moved into government jobs and it flourished.

1054
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 11: They became finally joined the rank of middle class income.

1055
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 11: So now we look at the fact that in twenty

1056
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 11: twenty four, so I'm sure that figure has doubled now

1057
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 11: called that over three hundred thousand Black women lost their jobs.

1058
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 11: That speaks allowed to our community and to the next

1059
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 11: generation and how we were failed from an economic standpoint

1060
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 11: because not only losing jobs, we're talking about what happened

1061
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 11: when black families are community to lose generational wealth. It's

1062
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 11: not just their jobs. When you lose your jobs, then

1063
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 11: you lose insurance protection for your family. And many of

1064
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 11: these black women not only are head of the household

1065
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 11: taking care of their family, many of them are also

1066
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 11: taking care of their parents and other people in that community.

1067
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 11: So there's been no cry out about that as to

1068
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 11: what's going to happen to these to these women. This

1069
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 11: large amount of people losing their jobs in our community

1070
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 11: at one in one area of one time frame, how

1071
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 11: does that protect protect a look for generational wealth for

1072
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 11: helping Blacks to come out of the economic ditch. We

1073
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 11: have to look at that. It's so silently. I don't

1074
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 11: hear a lot of talk about it. To me, it's

1075
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 11: a big thing to say more than three hundred thousand

1076
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Speaker 11: jobs were lost of black women, you know who. We

1077
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Speaker 11: had COVID, when we had two thousand and eight real

1078
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Speaker 11: estate bubblem, there was an organization called Knocker that were

1079
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 11: put in place that was helping people to rearrange down

1080
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Speaker 11: their home loans. In other words, there was a protective

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Speaker 11: shield put in place that they didn't lose that home.

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Speaker 11: I haven't heard of anything in place with something so

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Speaker 11: massive to protect these these women who lost their jobs.

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Speaker 11: When you're talking about the position they hold in the

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Speaker 11: black community, I haven't heard much talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Have you called, no, But I'll tell you what I've heard.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump say that they're better off because they found

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Speaker 1: better jobs. And you'll probably talk about this tonight, but listen,

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Speaker 1: we gotta take a quick break and we come back.

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Speaker 1: I'll let you address that issue. Because he says that

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Speaker 1: other people who with you know who lost their jobs.

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Speaker 1: He put it a mile away. It says it was

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Speaker 1: it's a great event because now they've got better jobs

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Speaker 1: and they're making more money. I want to see if

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Speaker 1: that messages with what you're saying about the job losses

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Speaker 1: that severely impacted our sisters family. You two can join

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Speaker 1: our conversation at doctor Rosie Milligan reach out to us

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Speaker 1: at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six

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Speaker 1: and we'll take your phone calls. Next and Grand Rising Family,

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Speaker 1: thanks to staying with us on this Tuesday morning with

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Speaker 1: our guest, doctor Rosie Mulligan. She's an author, a publisher,

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Speaker 1: she's an entrepreneur, she's a business person. It's a motivational speaker,

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Speaker 1: the arnofficial mayor of the mayor of South Central Los Angeles?

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Speaker 1: Is that right, doctor Rosie?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Well, my question to you, Donald Trump said these women

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Speaker 1: who got laid out, all the people who were laid

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Speaker 1: off is you know, specified black women. But it says

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Speaker 1: all the people got laid off they got better jobs.

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Speaker 1: Is that what you're hearing?

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Speaker 11: You know, car with no credence to anything like that

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Speaker 11: that Donald Trump says, they hope there's there's no figures,

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Speaker 11: no statistics to their any of that out. I mean

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Speaker 11: when you look at the face now that we face

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Speaker 11: artificial intelligence, were looking at the job lost across the

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Speaker 11: whole spectrum. How can anyone with any intelligence make that

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Speaker 11: kind of statement with black women in the last year

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Speaker 11: losing over three hundred thousand jobs and you stay in

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Speaker 11: there better off? Now, anybody with any kind of sense

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Speaker 11: no better than that, because when you're in a situation

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Speaker 11: where everybody's fighting the job, you know the last number

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Speaker 11: one Black's gonna be the last to get hired, in

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Speaker 11: the first to fire. Everybody's scrambling for themselves. That reminds

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Speaker 11: me of in nineteen sixty five, when we would we

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Speaker 11: think about black and we think about white. We didn't

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Speaker 11: have the melting pot mix that we have now. So

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Speaker 11: everybody's coming here to take care of them, and there's

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Speaker 11: not you and yours. They're coming here to cause out

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Speaker 11: a place for their own ethnicity. And we have not

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Speaker 11: done that from a business standpoint. We have been actually

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Speaker 11: reliant on the system. And that's why the other question

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Speaker 11: that I posed today is when we're thinking about how

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Speaker 11: we are making it here, I asked a question, has

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Speaker 11: politics and religion paralyzed Black America? That becomes a question

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Speaker 11: now is we begin to look at the job loss

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Speaker 11: we come to look at the dependency, how we're depending

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Speaker 11: on everybody. No, I put no credence to that statement.

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Speaker 11: And it's going to be interesting how he's going to

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Speaker 11: explain that, if he will try to, or is he

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Speaker 11: just put it out fire words.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you twenty two after that top there.

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Speaker 1: You're a student of doctor Claude Anderson. Doctor Anison predicted

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Speaker 1: that at some point we were going to be a

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Speaker 1: payment on the class if we didn't change and follow

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Speaker 1: his steps that he laid out in Paranomics is a

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01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: book by the name of Paranomic. I've spoken to him

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Speaker 1: recently and he says, we're there, we're a parent on

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Speaker 1: the class. Do you agree with that, Doctor Rosie?

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Speaker 11: Absolutely? He told us what year would happen? We've been

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Speaker 11: there for a long time and we have not recognized that.

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Speaker 11: And that is absolutely true. The facts called. You know,

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Speaker 11: I do a talk show. In my show today, I'm

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Speaker 11: really talking about what will it look like by our

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Speaker 11: children twenty years from now if we continue on the

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Speaker 11: path that we are going down. It is absolutely frightening

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Speaker 11: it and I think too many of us must have

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Speaker 11: our head under the saying, well, we are not thinking

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Speaker 11: maybe it's too frightening to be conscious.

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 11: Maybe it is frightening because we are looking at so

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Speaker 11: many people that in a comatose state you have to

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Speaker 11: be I guess if you come.

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Speaker 13: Out, you'll be worried.

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Speaker 11: Maybe you ever have more high blood pressure. I don't know,

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Speaker 11: but it seems as the five people are not aware

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Speaker 11: of what's going on. Particularly when you think about what's

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Speaker 11: going to happen to our children for the future, that

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Speaker 11: should be something that we should really be thinking about.

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Speaker 1: But will I'll ask you this, doctor Roji. Do you

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Speaker 1: think those jobs that Donald Trump dissolved, you think they're

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Speaker 1: coming back?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 13: No, I don't.

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Speaker 11: I do not think that coming back. When we look

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Speaker 11: at how artificial intelligence is ripping jobs across the country,

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Speaker 11: tasks is being performed automated, so and we look at

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Speaker 11: the fact that each ethnicity call is trying to carve

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Speaker 11: out a pass of them and theirs. I look at

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Speaker 11: in the nursing field, I remember how and I'm sure

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Speaker 11: you can recall too. Here in Los Angeles, most of

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Speaker 11: the medical institution, the nursing that rectored was with black women.

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Speaker 11: And now we go into the hospital, you go into

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Speaker 11: the medical sector, you'll finding and I'm sure I think

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Speaker 11: you had somebody on here showing how a lot of

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Speaker 11: black nurses were talking about Things's kind of locked outside

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Speaker 11: of the American institution because of the ethnicity had powering,

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Speaker 11: and we're bringing on their people, I mean bringing people

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Speaker 11: a foreigners here to work, whether it were black folks

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Speaker 11: here that could not find jobs. There's so much going

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Speaker 11: on that we're not paying attention to. Yeah, doctor Amael,

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Speaker 11: absolutely right, I see it, I feel it, and it's

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Speaker 11: very painful to see to see this head back.

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Speaker 1: All right, hold that FLT right there. Twenty five after

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Speaker 1: tough there, Charles has called from Baltimore and has a

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Speaker 1: question for you. Doctor Rosie's on line one, Grant Rising. Charles,

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Speaker 1: your question for doctor Rosie.

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Speaker 7: Yes, doctor Rosie, I hear exactly what you're saying. And

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Speaker 7: I've been saying that for a long time. And it's

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Speaker 7: amazing that we don't have an agenda, we don't have

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Speaker 7: any suer that all we can do is regurgitate what's

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Speaker 7: being done to us. We have no defense, no lawyers.

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Speaker 7: We should have defense lawyers. We should have somebody that

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Speaker 7: is helping us legally, financially, politically. I mean We need

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Speaker 7: somebody cognitive because it seems like all of our people

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Speaker 7: are dead. When will they wake up? Because it seems

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Speaker 7: like they're living in maritime law. I mean, everything that

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Speaker 7: these foreigners have done to us, they've accepted and they

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Speaker 7: are pushing.

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Speaker 5: So how can we stop this?

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Speaker 3: What is the solution to get out of this nightmare?

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Speaker 3: Because our own people.

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Speaker 7: The ones that look like us, they're just dragging us

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Speaker 7: deeper and deeper into this nightmare. The crabs in the borough,

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Speaker 7: they're dragging us.

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Speaker 1: Now, all right, challs, just give a chance to respond,

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Speaker 1: Thanks Charles twenty seven after top down, Go ahead, doctor Rossie.

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Speaker 11: It goes to a topic card that I've been talking about.

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Speaker 11: That's a question now been asking are we praying or planning?

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Speaker 11: And it's time for us to look at how political

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Speaker 11: loyalty and religious dependency help paralyzed black progress. Now, those

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Speaker 11: people get angry when they hear me discuss this topic,

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Speaker 11: but it's real, you know, praying, Are we praying? Are

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Speaker 11: we planning? You know, waiting on God or waiting on

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Speaker 11: the government who told us this STI still call faith

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Speaker 11: without strategy is fantasy. I'm gonna repeat that faith without strategy,

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Speaker 11: it's fantasy. Are we spilled the strong and economical? We

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Speaker 11: lawyer to parties, faithful to the poor pit But who's

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Speaker 11: lawyer to black wealth?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 11: Has politics and religion empowered us a pacified us?

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Speaker 4: That's a big question.

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Speaker 11: Car, hasn't empowered us? A pacified them? And the truth

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Speaker 11: be told it to pacify us? Just wait, just wait

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Speaker 11: till the next lection. This person gonna do something for us.

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Speaker 11: I want somebody to tell me what has been done

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Speaker 11: for Black folks that have changed policy, that have impacted

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Speaker 11: how we live, our education, our wealth, even our protection.

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Speaker 11: I mean, look how laws came in to protect the

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Speaker 11: Asian hate against them. Look how long black folks have

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Speaker 11: fought to be protected and it's not been protected. So

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Speaker 11: when are we going to stop being passified by the

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Speaker 11: fact that tomorrow we'll be in heaven. We per may

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Speaker 11: and do for a night joy come in the morning.

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Speaker 11: Are the politicians saying both for me and I'll set

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Speaker 11: you free? Are we being pacifized? Are we being paralyzed

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Speaker 11: by praying and not planning, allowing someone else to decide

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Speaker 11: the faith for us, for our children of the next generation?

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Speaker 11: Why are we waiting, Car so to call it is

1249
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 11: absolutely right. Unless we can look at what's holding us back,

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Speaker 11: we'll never gain progress. It's our pacification, it's our faith.

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Speaker 11: Without strategy, there's no plan. Is there one plan to

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Speaker 11: change the educational system? Is the one plan to make

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Speaker 11: sure that business ownership is at the top of the list.

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Speaker 11: We don't even look at the curriculum.

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Speaker 3: In our school system.

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Speaker 11: Other curriculum intact to make our children competitive in a

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Speaker 11: global society? Who cares? Who's talking about that?

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Speaker 1: Ask you this, though, doctor Rosie. Does that speak to

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Speaker 1: the fact that sort of a vacuum of leadership now

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Speaker 1: we're just recently Reverend Jesse Jackson, or do we still

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Speaker 1: need leaders like a Reverend Jackson to lead us? Because

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Speaker 1: right now it seems like we're floundering. Like Charles said,

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Speaker 1: we don't have a plan. We don't we don't have

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Speaker 1: a we don't know what we're going to do. We're

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Speaker 1: just to sort of existing. We're stuck in the air, shure,

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Speaker 1: we don't know what's going to happen. Is there something

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Speaker 1: that do you know that we can do instead of waiting,

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, or praying that somebody comes and save us,

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01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 1: is there something that we can do ourselves individually? Or collectively,

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Speaker 1: but that we need.

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Speaker 11: To declare who our leaders are going to be that

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Speaker 11: represent us, to speak for us. And it's not being

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Speaker 11: empowered by who other people appoint as our leadership. See,

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Speaker 11: we have lost it when it comes to even the

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Speaker 11: religious institution. How they were they were there, you know,

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01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:55,919
Speaker 11: they built hostile tell Well Hospital built through the churches

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01:11:56,280 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 11: when doors were shutting out faces. The religious institution has

1278
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 11: stepped up. They open up schools, they open up hospitals,

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01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 11: they get all this car but now they have become

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01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 11: so passive because well, if you say this, then we

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01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,759
Speaker 11: gonna cut off your non profit funded.

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Speaker 14: See.

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Speaker 11: Money has shut the doors in our face. Money has

1284
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 11: caused our politician to become corrupt, that they're only thinking

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01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 11: about the wealth for themselves and their families and to

1286
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 11: keep us mad about something. So we feel like, well

1287
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 11: if I'm gonna rally around them because they gonna help us,

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01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 11: they promise to help us. It's time that we realize

1289
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 11: so we have to help ourselves. There's no air plane

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01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 11: coming for us, no train, no bus, no car, no bicycle.

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Speaker 11: We're gonna have to walk this economic journey. As doctor

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Speaker 11: Anderson has told us through the years, we're gonna have

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Speaker 11: to do it for ourselves. Stop waiting on. Like I

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01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 11: tell people who are so concerned about what's going on

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01:12:56,320 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 11: in the White House, you're the local election are more

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Speaker 11: important to you to anything, your schools, how things fail,

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01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 11: your safety. But we all looking toward the White House.

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Speaker 11: The power is not their car. We shouldn't take our

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01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 11: mind off the White House and put it on your

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01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 11: black house because that's what's on fire. That's what's burn

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01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 11: it down, your black house, your community, and we're looking

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01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,640
Speaker 11: at it the wrong way. So we do need to

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01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 11: declare within our own region of who are we going

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01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 11: to listen to, and we need to follow that. We

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Speaker 11: need a plan. We don't have a plan. That's not

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01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 11: one plan to increase business ownership. And that is a

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01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 11: crunch of what needs to take place because nobody's come

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01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 11: in here to create jobs to hire black folks. They

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01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 11: come in here to create jobs to sustain the welfare

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Speaker 11: for themselves.

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Speaker 1: In that thing, doctor Rosie, if we don't have a plan,

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Speaker 1: if that means we haven't even thought about having a plan.

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01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: I have these conversations with some of our scholars. If

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01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,560
Speaker 1: we need another Gary convention where we come up with

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Speaker 1: a political and social plan. But they agree we need one.

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01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 1: You know, but who's going to be who's gonna step

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01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 1: forward and who's going to go out there and say, hey,

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01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: we need a plan. Let's get up. We've got some

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01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: smart and very intelligent people in our community. It can

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01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 1: come up with the plans, with the planques for these plans,

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01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: you know, some of the issues that we need to

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01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 1: discuss and to move us up the socioeconomic ladder. So

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01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: if we're waiting on somebody, it may not happen. So

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01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 1: how can we move collectively? And I asked this my question, Well.

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Speaker 11: Car, remember we have gotten so accustomed to things being

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01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 11: free that a lot of our people are not they

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01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 11: want It's like I think it was Malcolm it said

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01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 11: that you want rain, but you don't want to lighten

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01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 11: it in the thunderment. We don't want, we don't want

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01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 11: what goes along with moving us to progress.

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Speaker 3: Carl.

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Speaker 11: You can remember when we have speakers that would come

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01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 11: to LA and across the country. We had speakers. We

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01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 11: would pack our bookstores, arenas wherever we had to go.

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01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 11: But we've gotten so adjusted to free you know, medicare

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01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 11: you get a call, you go to the doctor, do

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01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 11: you got an insurance. You got so used to not

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01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 11: paying for stuff. When these people come in to help us,

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01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 11: it costs. We have to understand that freedom called is

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01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 11: not free. We have major people that could be across

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01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 11: this country delivering information that people need, but who's willing

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01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 11: to pay when you bring them in town. If you

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01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 11: say that fee, it's going to be thirty five dollars.

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01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 11: People they want to come free, but the place you're

1345
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 11: holding events are not free. You have to pay. You

1346
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,600
Speaker 11: have to pay for the speakers to get on the airplane.

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01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 11: So when we understand where we need to put our

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01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 11: money to come out of this ditch, that's when things

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01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 11: are going to change. You remember doctor Frans and French

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01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:06,480
Speaker 11: Wealth and all these people call that. Well, you know myself,

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01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 11: a lot of us, we were all across the country.

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01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 11: We are all not localized in our community. And thank

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01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 11: God for shows like yours that we have. These people

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01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 11: come on that can speak and give some enlightenment. But

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01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 11: we need a movement where people can go on a

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Speaker 11: regular basis and learn how they need to empower themselves.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a problem, and at least we're halfway

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01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 1: solved it because we figured out what the problem is

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01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: now we have to come up with a solution, Dtor Rosie.

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01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 1: So what sort of solution? How do we get this

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01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: message across? So you know, if one or two people

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01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,560
Speaker 1: are doing it, it doesn't have an impact unless we

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01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 1: can move collectively. We just and we don't need every

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01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,600
Speaker 1: black person. We just need a certain amount, you know,

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01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 1: to move to help us move forward. How do we

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01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 1: do that? How do we get those who are thinking

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01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 1: like you and I and some of the listeners right

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01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 1: now who say, hey, we can make a change, you know,

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01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: just use some of the platforms that Dr Anderson talked

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01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,560
Speaker 1: about in these book paranomics. I hate to say, but

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01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 1: he's correct, as doctor Rosie said that we're permanent on

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01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 1: the class. But how do we get from under that?

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01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 1: How do we rise up from that socioeconomic ladder? People

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01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 1: got here met last week and they're already ahead of us.

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01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 1: We destined to doom? Are we going to get up

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01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 1: and rise up and do something positive? I'll let you

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01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 1: respond to that when we get back. I'm looking at

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01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 1: the clock here. We got to take a short break.

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01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 1: And also carl In lrdon Virginia wants to join us

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01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 1: as well. Family, you two can do the same thing.

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01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 1: You can reach us. You want to speak to doctor Rosie,

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01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 1: hit us up at eight hundred and four five zero

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01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six and we'll take a phone calls

1384
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 1: after we check the news. Trafficking weather, that's next and

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01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 1: Grand Rising family, thanks for staying with us on this

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01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 1: Tuesday morning. It's sixteen minutes away from the top. They

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01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: are with our guest, Dr Rosie Milgan. Doctor Rosie is

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01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 1: an author, publisher, she's a businesswoman and she's here this

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01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 1: morning discussing how we can improve how can we make

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01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: it in this business world. As you mentioned that we

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01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 1: talked about doctor Claude Anderson. She's a student of doctor

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01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 1: Claude Anderson. His book Onomics from doctor Anderson predicted with

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01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: a weird because a permanent on the class, that's where

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01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 1: we are. How do we move? We just need a

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01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 1: critical mass. So I'll let her address that when we

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01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 1: get back, but let me just first remind her. Coming

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01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 1: up later this morning, we're gonna speak with the President

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01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,600
Speaker 1: General of the University of African People's Organization out of

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01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: Saint Louis. There'll be Brother Zaki Bruti and later this

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01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: week you're gonna hear from chematologist Tony Browner, historian Michael

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01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 1: m Otep, Attorney Fire Rose to Ray will be listen.

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01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: Also the master Teacher ashra Quasi will be here. So

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01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 1: if you're in Baltimore, I'm sure you keep your radio

1404
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 1: locked and tight on ten ten WLB and also in

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01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: the DMV era we're on fourteen fifty WOL All right,

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01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 1: doctor Rosie, So how do we get folks moving? How

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01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 1: do we how do we get them to understand this

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01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 1: is an urgency? Connect to this because I'm the mode

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01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 1: that I don't think people think that, you know, being

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01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 1: a permanent erguists is something we sort of wear as

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01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 1: a badge. Is like going going to the pan or something,

1412
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:54,719
Speaker 1: or you know, you graduate, you're proud of that, you're

1413
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 1: you're a convict. That's not who we are as a people.

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01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 1: So how do we get our folks to keep moving?

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01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 1: That's my question?

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Speaker 11: Well, you know number one, as you know, and I know,

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01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 11: the doctor Anderston wrote a plan The Power Numby and

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01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 11: I wonder how many people many people bought the book

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01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 11: when they come to he came to hear him speak,

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01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 11: if that book was read? And what part of our

1421
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 11: curriculum not just a urriculum before you get to school.

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01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:22,719
Speaker 10: Part of our.

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01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 11: Homes that we sat down and we went through that

1424
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 11: book with our family, that would change how we really

1425
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:36,719
Speaker 11: see ourselves because Malcolm at Booker T. Washington, Doctor Francis

1426
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 11: crish welles. Then it goes on my question we comes

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01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 11: to black folks.

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01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 8: Who would we hear?

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01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,759
Speaker 11: We have been told? We have scholars, we have people

1430
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 11: who know how this should work. But who are we

1431
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 11: going to hear? Do we have to appoint a white

1432
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 11: man to go around and tell these black folks what

1433
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 11: doctor Anderson have said, Book Washington and all these other people.

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01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 11: Maybe that's who their voice. They're waiting here because they

1435
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 11: have been told. Now the other thing called we have

1436
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 11: to think about the last strawhold that we have that

1437
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 11: can change the condition as to where black folks are.

1438
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 11: That's the black churches. And when you hear me talk

1439
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:27,919
Speaker 11: about were waiting for the politicians or how religion, churches

1440
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 11: and politics have paralized us. I'm not disrespecting God, not

1441
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 11: to disrespect the church, not to disrespect the ballot, but

1442
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 11: we need to ask a dangerous question. Have we confused

1443
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:47,560
Speaker 11: faith with being passive, passive with passivity? Have we done that.

1444
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 11: Have we confused politics layers and with strategy for decades

1445
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:57,839
Speaker 11: We're prayed for the liver, voted for change, waited for rescue,

1446
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 11: and yet we still do not control land, We do

1447
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 11: not control banks, we do not control distribution, and we

1448
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:10,759
Speaker 11: do not control policies. And policy is what makes things change.

1449
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 11: Now here's who we would need to put the pressure on.

1450
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 11: And people get confused about holding religious institution accountable with

1451
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 11: will let God handle? This is the only strawhold car

1452
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 11: we have. When we talked about how we used to

1453
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 11: go across the country and have speakers, how we had

1454
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 11: multiple radio talk shows, think about call what happened to us?

1455
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 11: This is one of the things that have shut the

1456
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 11: voices down and have crippled our people. Because if you

1457
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 11: don't get the knowledge, how can you act on You

1458
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 11: remember back in the days, all the talk shows we

1459
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 11: had that we heard the voice of the people. We

1460
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 11: don't hear that. But what about these churches where people

1461
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 11: are sitting at eleven o'clock, millions of people across the

1462
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 11: country and not hearing anything about how to change policies,

1463
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 11: how to how to to come out of the ditch.

1464
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 11: They are the last people? Is not the politician. If

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01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 11: the church institution can change this situation overnight. If one

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01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 11: pastor got over with poor Pittons that I want all

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01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 11: of you all to go go to c D whatever

1468
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 11: market of seed depharmacy, they would pack it out the

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01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 11: next day. They have a voice they can.

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01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 1: Make Yeah, let me ask you. This carling to you.

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01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 1: But why do you think the churches don't do that.

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01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 11: Though, afraid of of of their money they're salary. They're

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01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 11: afraid that the government would say, okay, then we're not

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01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 11: going to allow people to write the tides off when

1475
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,719
Speaker 11: you're committed to something you don't care about, no tax

1476
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 11: right off. That's what they hold over that head. But

1477
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 11: they allow politician to come in every year tell you

1478
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 11: who to vote for and they and they can't tell

1479
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 11: you one bill that these politicians have initiated. They don't

1480
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:12,680
Speaker 11: know what bill they did not sign in on. They

1481
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 11: are leading, they're ignorant, leading us into ignorant political statement

1482
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 11: because you believe in past if pastor said shot black,

1483
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 11: they'll do it. Okay, Look what happened when Jamarl Bryant

1484
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 11: just rolls up and say this is what we need

1485
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 11: to do about target. Look what happened. The power is

1486
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 11: in the Black Church and we will not hold them accountable.

1487
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 11: And when you speak out against people think that you

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01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,599
Speaker 11: don't believe in God, you're just a heathen. So that's

1489
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 11: how they do me. I think the church can turn

1490
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 11: this thing around overnight. Just look at what happened with

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01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 11: the target situation, right, I thought.

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01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: Right there, fifty ten minutes away from the top. As

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01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 1: I mentioned, Carl is reaching out to us some Northern

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01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 1: Virginiations online one Carl Grant Rising. You're on with doctor.

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01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 15: Grand Rising, call and Grand Rising to a guest, ma'am.

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01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:10,560
Speaker 15: I want to echo everything that's saying. We definitely have

1497
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 15: to have an agenda. And I'm looking I'm sitting right

1498
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 15: here looking at the Black Leadership Plan for Survival, for

1499
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 15: the Survival the Progress of Black People that was produced

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01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 15: back at nineteen eighty one, which came out of that Gary,

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01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 15: Indiana convention that was held in nineteen seventy two and

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01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 15: in seventy In nineteen seventy two, you had all these

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01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 15: organizations that came together with the purpose of coming having

1504
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 15: a black agenda and also with the purpose of coming

1505
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 15: up with a separate black political party. Okay, now what

1506
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 15: happened in that is I understand it, and they're actually

1507
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,879
Speaker 15: in reading the book about that is that the efforts

1508
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 15: were undermined by those black elected officials who were comfortable

1509
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 15: comfortably within the Democrat Party and was in some of

1510
01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:00,080
Speaker 15: these civil rights all stars that like to be the

1511
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 15: number one leader of all black people. And so out

1512
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 15: of that, instead of us having black power, we got

1513
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 15: the diverted into black excellence and into the politics of personality.

1514
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,640
Speaker 15: And that's why we always talk about who's the why

1515
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 15: do we need another leader, Who's gonna be the next

1516
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 15: Jesse Jackson, Who's gonna be the next Barack Obama? Or

1517
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 15: today we're talking about is jas Min Crockett go get

1518
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:25,600
Speaker 15: into the Senate instead of saying that we this is

1519
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 15: these are the top five things that black people want

1520
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 15: on the on the city level, on the state level,

1521
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 15: on the regional or on the federal level. And if

1522
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 15: you go represent us, Ms Crockett, this is what you

1523
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 15: go go into the Senate and do on our behalf. Okay,

1524
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 15: this is plan that I have Now, this is this

1525
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 15: is this This book costs me like ninety dollars to

1526
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 15: get because it is so rare, but it laid out

1527
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 15: everything because it's not the man.

1528
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 3: It's supposed to be the.

1529
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 15: Plan, it's not the rat, it's the map. Okay, So

1530
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 15: we gotta we gotta break out of this, and we're

1531
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 15: gonna have to start holding these Negro politicians accountable for

1532
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 15: what we are not doing on our behalves, you know,

1533
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 15: and say and in saying that we don't have this

1534
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 15: black Office thing coming up here in September, right, My

1535
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 15: goal is to have an agenda that we put in

1536
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 15: front of them and make them answer to whether or

1537
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 15: not they can deliver the things that we need. Like

1538
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 15: you said, talking about education here in Virginia, we need

1539
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 15: to make black black history mandatorily taught the same way

1540
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 15: that Holocaust history is taught. Our black educator should be

1541
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 15: able to deliver that. Since they got the numbers. So

1542
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 15: we've got a black man who's the Speaker of the House,

1543
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 15: black woman who's our president of the Senate, or what

1544
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,600
Speaker 15: have you. We got Spamburger who black people put up

1545
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 15: there as a governor, got a black man, j Jones

1546
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 15: who's the attorney general. There's no reason why they can't

1547
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 15: deliver on the issue of education for black people. That's

1548
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 15: just one example of what we can get done.

1549
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 11: Yes, that's that's what we're coming from in this country today.

1550
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 11: The major thing that mostly put on concerned about is

1551
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 11: making sure that we keep we have a dominate from

1552
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 11: a democratic standpoint, we're more interested in what's gonna happen

1553
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 11: in these elections than we are as to what's going

1554
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 11: to happen to us as a family. I asked a

1555
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 11: question on a show saying, if you died tomorrow with

1556
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 11: your children and your family, be okay, And most people

1557
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 11: never even come to grip to even think about that.

1558
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 11: All we'll focus on now is who's gonna get in

1559
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 11: the White House where the Democratists win. It seems if

1560
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 11: we don't care what they do when they get that,

1561
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 11: there hasn't been any policies that actually impact black folks. Paul,

1562
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 11: remember when doctor Anderson, they spend millions of dollars trying

1563
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 11: to deal with the eighteen sixty five treaty. All this

1564
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 11: money that should have come to black folks. Now, a

1565
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 11: politician in the House raised their boys and he was

1566
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 11: told when we talked about that and reparation, that the

1567
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 11: black politicians has the black politician here in California Insightfulmentum

1568
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 11: was one who blocked and stopped the movement. Basically for reparation.

1569
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:20,679
Speaker 11: You can check every city that has dominated with black

1570
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 11: or political leaders. Black folks are worse off in Gold

1571
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 11: Cities than any other place. So when are we going

1572
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 11: to realize that who's in power in these political seats

1573
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 11: do not have the power or have not spoken up

1574
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 11: to change policis name one thing for me that any

1575
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:47,480
Speaker 11: one president, Democrats are Republicans have done to that particular

1576
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 11: was isolated for black folks. On don't tell me about housing,

1577
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 11: you know, Obama, stay the house. That was what everybody?

1578
01:28:56,040 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 11: Name me one thing, one policy, one move that would

1579
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:04,719
Speaker 11: on the table to change the lives of black folks.

1580
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 1: You know what was your head? Dr Russe?

1581
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 6: They didn't know.

1582
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 11: God, maybe we can help our children, right And.

1583
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 1: Doctor Rosie, if we hear what Carl was saying is

1584
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: are they elected officials of members of the Black Caucus

1585
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 1: or even at Staten City local officials? Are they the politicians?

1586
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 1: Are they the blame?

1587
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 11: Yes? They are them? And the Black Church. Yes, How

1588
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 11: with all the power, with all the represents, you've got

1589
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 11: black males across his country, you got city councilmens. Why

1590
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 11: have there not been any policy change it because they

1591
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 11: are afraid to speak up. Doctor Anderson talked about that. Well,

1592
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 11: I'm I'm for the people. I can't I'm just not

1593
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 11: a black president. I'm just not. Why is it that

1594
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 11: there is no black agenda? I mean, think about a car.

1595
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 11: If I break my leg, I need.

1596
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 4: A wheel chair.

1597
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 11: Do I supposed to give you a wheel chair?

1598
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 13: Two?

1599
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:09,599
Speaker 11: I mean no, you need to look at what's happening

1600
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 11: with black folks and there need to be some powers

1601
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 11: to put in place to help get black folks out

1602
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:18,799
Speaker 11: of the ditch, because we didn't push ourselves in the ditch,

1603
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 11: but black folks.

1604
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:21,599
Speaker 1: Well, let me jump in and ask you this though,

1605
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:26,599
Speaker 1: doctor Rosie. Go ahead, doctor Rosie. Do you think people

1606
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 1: understand what you tell you? We're in a ditch economic dig?

1607
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 1: Do you think black people really understand that? Or the

1608
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 1: most folks? And I look at the clock. We gotta

1609
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 1: step aside and I'll let you respond on the other side,

1610
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 1: do you think people are happy content with where they

1611
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 1: are and that's the reason they don't want to rock

1612
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 1: the boat? They're just looking for us. DoD To Welsa said,

1613
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 1: a better space in racist and white supremacy. I'll let

1614
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 1: you respond that when we get back with three away

1615
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 1: from the top there, we've gotta check the trafficking weather

1616
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 1: in our different cities. Family, you want to get in

1617
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 1: on this conversation with doctor Rose Miligan to reach out

1618
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 1: to us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight

1619
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 1: seventy six. You want to take your phone calls next

1620
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 1: and Grand Rising family, thanks for starting your Tuesday with

1621
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 1: us and our guest that Dr Rosie mil again, Doctor Rosie.

1622
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 1: She's an entrepreneur, she's also a publisher. She's a writer.

1623
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 1: She's gonna have a Black Writers and tour coming up.

1624
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:12,720
Speaker 1: And before you leave, and doctor Rose, I need you

1625
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 1: to tell the family about your Black Writers on tour.

1626
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:17,719
Speaker 1: You've been doing this for many years now. But Doctor Rosie,

1627
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 1: the fact that we need we're stuck. If most people

1628
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 1: don't seem to feel that they're stuck, they just want

1629
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 1: a better spot or a bigger biscuit, if you will.

1630
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:27,560
Speaker 1: In the system of racism and white supremacy, how do

1631
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 1: we get people to understand that you're in a rut. Brother,

1632
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:33,680
Speaker 1: You're in a rut, sister. You know everybody's passing us by.

1633
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 1: And we again, like Charles and Baltimore says, we don't

1634
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 1: have a plan, so what are we going to do?

1635
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 1: So how do we how do we get this message out?

1636
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 1: I guess that's my question, Paul.

1637
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:46,520
Speaker 11: You know I just finished listening to Katy Hughes commercial.

1638
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 11: She said it all. It was the Black church and

1639
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 11: the black media. See, when you have a black radio station,

1640
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 11: if people don't have businesses, they don't understand the power media.

1641
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,679
Speaker 11: Maybe you don't have a business appetise, but you should

1642
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 11: just donate money to the station that they can have

1643
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 11: your agenda. When stations are supported by everybody but black,

1644
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:14,840
Speaker 11: you're persuaded sometimes that certain things a lot of radio

1645
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 11: station couldn't say because they don't want their sponsors to

1646
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 11: pull off. Across this country, there's a many events call

1647
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 11: that I was not invited to only because the people

1648
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 11: know my wilsom and knowledge and my stance. But I

1649
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 11: was not on that platform because they were afraid that

1650
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:37,520
Speaker 11: I might say something to a fend down sponsor. If sponsorship,

1651
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 11: the NAACP, all of these organizations, if the white folks

1652
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 11: pulled that money from them, they can hold my one comfort,

1653
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:52,120
Speaker 11: not one convention. That's sad until we understand that we

1654
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 11: got to put our money in things other than what's

1655
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 11: on our head and what's in our driveway. When I

1656
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:01,639
Speaker 11: say head, I'm talking might have weeds and that kind

1657
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:04,600
Speaker 11: of stuff. And you know, people get angry when I

1658
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 11: talk that way. Call them eighty years old. I have

1659
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:11,280
Speaker 11: seen it. My heart bleeds for what's happening for our

1660
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 11: people in the economic ditch, in the in the bottom

1661
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 11: of the rubbish, and there's no plan to get out

1662
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:22,719
Speaker 11: because we're waiting on Jesus to come, or we waiting

1663
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 11: on some of these crooked politicians who feeding their own

1664
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:30,320
Speaker 11: a pocketbook. Them and all their families be rich when

1665
01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 11: they come out, and you and your children will still

1666
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:36,160
Speaker 11: be in the ditch. You allow these churches, you allow

1667
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 11: these pastors, You acted that their god. You're not holding

1668
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 11: them responsible. You're sitting in a church and people don't

1669
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:47,679
Speaker 11: even know that you are attorney or you have certain business,

1670
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 11: but they don't even have a business directory. I am

1671
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:54,759
Speaker 11: so sick and tired of people in a coma.

1672
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 4: It's not about you.

1673
01:33:56,760 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 11: If you don't care about you, think about your children,

1674
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 11: make a change, make a change.

1675
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this, and do we get

1676
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 1: to Brother Zike in a minute. But let me ask you,

1677
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:10,679
Speaker 1: do you think this is deliberate the things a planet

1678
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 1: or I hate to feel that we think that we're

1679
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 1: so inept that the situation we're in with it's our fault. Totally.

1680
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 1: I just feel like some other folks are doing this

1681
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,640
Speaker 1: and creating the situation to keep us down. How do

1682
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 1: you see it?

1683
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 11: Absolutely, we perpetuate when I hear people say to me

1684
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 11: one thing about black folks. You know, we don't like

1685
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 11: each other. Don't say that in the front of your kids.

1686
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 11: We don't support each other. I said, who want the week?

1687
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 11: Now put your name in it. I'm not in that.

1688
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 11: I don't let people tell me general life. But we

1689
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:47,720
Speaker 11: don't do this. We don't do that. You know. We

1690
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 11: gotta be careful what we say and what we do.

1691
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 11: But the power to beat Miss Kathy Hughes laid it

1692
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 11: on the table in her commercial is how we got

1693
01:34:57,080 --> 01:35:00,000
Speaker 11: out of the ditch in the first place. With blackness,

1694
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:03,759
Speaker 11: medy and black churches, and we're letting them run a month,

1695
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:07,679
Speaker 11: you know, just separatism. Everybody got to have their own church.

1696
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 11: It becomes it's like the new business. You know, how

1697
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 11: black folks are.

1698
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:13,759
Speaker 3: Let's own a business.

1699
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 11: You can't get a business started.

1700
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 3: Church.

1701
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 11: I mean, it is absolutely ridiculous. It should be illegal

1702
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 11: to have all these churches sitting on every corner, sucking

1703
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:28,639
Speaker 11: up the money. The family they gonna join, everybody putting

1704
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 11: their little money in and what are you doing a

1705
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,680
Speaker 11: place like la is no reason why we shouldn't have

1706
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 11: a massive market, with no reason why we shouldn't have

1707
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 11: our own a convention center. These people call, we're letting

1708
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 11: people get away with something that we should not. Yeah,

1709
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:49,799
Speaker 11: we're the next generation.

1710
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:53,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's the thing the other folks. They think

1711
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:58,080
Speaker 1: about generational wealth. Jim Cleland, professor Jim Kleanley, when he

1712
01:35:58,200 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 1: used to be with us, he was to toss a

1713
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 1: generational wealth is something we have to think about as

1714
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 1: a people. Have create generation wealth.

1715
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 11: Do a wheel truck a car. Every day I'm out

1716
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 11: there looking at people in probate courts because they want

1717
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 11: to do something that's simple, making sure that the house

1718
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 11: passed down to their children. Just just simple, just dumb

1719
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 11: stuff that we're doing and blame it. Think about plan.

1720
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 11: When the Hispanics, I know, when they came here in California,

1721
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:29,719
Speaker 11: I'm talking about what I know they had a plan.

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01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 11: Let's multiply. Let's dominate. Okay, and they did that. Now

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01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 11: look at their numbers. Whether they were telling our young girl,

1724
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:41,360
Speaker 11: you know, you need to have abortion, you ain't married,

1725
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 11: don't have that baby, about that, even stuff that I've

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01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:47,560
Speaker 11: ever heard of. They had a plan to dominate, and

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01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 11: they have done a good job. Now they came up, Okay,

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01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 11: you all got.

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Speaker 8: To go to school.

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01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:53,640
Speaker 4: You gotta go.

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01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 11: You go to the these nurse assistant courts that they

1732
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 11: are packed out. They're dominating the medical system. Dominating, of

1733
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 11: course is and we help because we allow to take

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01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:10,679
Speaker 11: our tax dollars and do englage as a second language.

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01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:13,839
Speaker 11: When I raised the issue that we should have Spanish

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01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 11: as a second language for black kids in California, they

1737
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 11: told me to shut up. I said, so you're gonna

1738
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 11: teach other people that our distance your kids on your

1739
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 11: tax dollar. No, they need to learn to speak English.

1740
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:31,479
Speaker 11: Something is wrong and call God knows. I pray every

1741
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 11: day that the scale will fall off of our eyes.

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01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 11: There is no plan. Our only plan is to plan

1743
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 11: who's gonna be in that White House. That's the only

1744
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 11: plan that black folks seem to be leaning towards. You're

1745
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:47,639
Speaker 11: not planning it on the business we're gonna have. You're

1746
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:50,320
Speaker 11: not planning on what the schools should be teaching our

1747
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 11: kids in an AI era. The only plan that black

1748
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 11: folks have is make sure we get us as president

1749
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 11: in the White House. And what do you get from it?

1750
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:03,760
Speaker 11: What's in your black count right?

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01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 1: And Doctor Rosie gonna cut it there because we've got

1752
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 1: a brother Zaki on deck, who I need to move to.

1753
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 1: But before we go, though, you have your Black writers

1754
01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 1: on tour and if any people listening and they've got

1755
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 1: an idea for a book and they're looking for a

1756
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 1: publisher that can contact you, how do they reach you

1757
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:20,559
Speaker 1: on how do they find out about your Black Writers

1758
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 1: on Tour program?

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01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:27,839
Speaker 11: Okay, it's Black Writers on Tour plus business plus AI Expo,

1760
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 11: that's what it is. They can reach me at three

1761
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 11: two three seven five oh three five nine two. That's

1762
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 11: three two three seven five old three five nine two.

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01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 11: You can go to my website doctor Roster dot com

1764
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:44,799
Speaker 11: and listen at minute archives show where I've interviewed Doctor

1765
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:48,680
Speaker 11: Anderson and three hundred and so other talk shows are

1766
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:52,639
Speaker 11: there on that website, Doctor Rosie dot com.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Doctor Rosie.

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Speaker 11: My books, my books are thirty six books of author

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01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 11: there are on the website.

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Speaker 1: You know, one day we come back and talk about

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01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:05,479
Speaker 1: some of your books that you've written as well. But

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01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 1: thank you, doctor Rosie, Thank you doctor Rosa. Thoughts for

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Speaker 1: this's ten minutes off the top of our brother Zachi

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01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 1: Brudy grand Rising, welcome back to the program.

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Speaker 3: Frand rising to your brother Carl Nelson, as you continue

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01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:22,559
Speaker 3: to educate our people, I salute you at the highest

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Speaker 3: level and made it great to continue to bless you.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you for the kind words. See you have

1779
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 1: got a guest with you as well. Can you introduce

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01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 1: her to the family.

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01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 3: Yes, my guest is a sister name Kendrew Fits. She's

1782
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:42,760
Speaker 3: a noted author as well as she's an activist and

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01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:45,720
Speaker 3: a recent member of our organization. In fact, we have

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01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:49,599
Speaker 3: designated her as our ambassador to the great country at Gambia.

1785
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 3: I got an opportunity to meet her at a gathering

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01:39:55,360 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 3: celebrating the movie Teal down in Mississippi, I think it

1787
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 3: was Jackson, Mississippi. And she has done some great work

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Speaker 3: in the country of Gambia, West Africa, and I would

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Speaker 3: allow her to stay with the kind of work that

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01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 3: she has done. But anyway, it's very impressive and we

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01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 3: her organization and ours work in collaboration to do a

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01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 3: project to help build a library in Gambia. So to that,

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01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 3: Ian Kendrew, if you would mind, all right.

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Speaker 1: Let's bring her on. Kendra Phipps Grand Rising, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the program.

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Speaker 14: Good morning. Thank you so much for having me. I

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01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:39,160
Speaker 14: truly appreciate the opportunity.

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01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:44,160
Speaker 1: And you're working with Zaki and the Universal African People's

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Speaker 1: Organization on a project in the Gambia. Can you tell

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Speaker 1: us about that.

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Speaker 14: That I can I gain. My name is Ambassador Kindredips

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01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 14: and I am the founder of Bridge Foundation Development Corporation

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01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 14: and that truly was leading an international initiative and we

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01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:07,679
Speaker 14: started over a year and a half plus providing sanitary

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01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 14: napkins to the girls to keep the inm in school.

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01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:14,280
Speaker 14: So we started with eight hundred and we started humble

1807
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:18,599
Speaker 14: beginnings by donating seventy two nats sandatory napkins, and we've

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01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 14: grown to five schools touching eight hundred and sixteen girls

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Speaker 14: lives deliver almost twenty thousand sanatary napkins to the Kuntar

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Speaker 14: region in the Gambia.

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Speaker 1: Why did you see like the Gambia.

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Speaker 14: Well, Carl, everything happens at event. I was actually at

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Speaker 14: an event and I ended up meeting the youngest mayor

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Speaker 14: in the Kuntar region and he walked up to me

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Speaker 14: and he said that my girls are coming up to

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Speaker 14: me and my wife asking for sanitary napkins to stay

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Speaker 14: in school. Can you help me?

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Speaker 11: And that stuck with me.

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Speaker 14: Put me some time to develop the core portion of

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Speaker 14: a project and we were able to connect the docs

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Speaker 14: on the docks on the local level with the mayor

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Speaker 14: and a store and we've been providing sanitary napkins from

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Speaker 14: that event from twenty twenty four all the way up

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Speaker 14: and still today all.

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Speaker 1: Right thirteen a half the top. Ask Kendrick Fibbs. She's

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Speaker 1: the ambassador with the Universal African People's Organization with Brother

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Speaker 1: Zaki Brudi. Brother Zaki, you also had a book drive

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Speaker 1: for some of the students in the Gambia. Can you

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Speaker 1: tell us about that?

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Speaker 3: Yes. First of all, the book drive for the Gambia

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01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 3: originated really with my conversation with Ambassador Fifths started. I

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01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 3: was so impressed with her work in Gambia, and in

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01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:50,559
Speaker 3: that process I had shared with her some of our

1834
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:55,080
Speaker 3: work in terms of helping the people of Africa because

1835
01:42:55,200 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 3: in the past our organization starting in nineteen ninety. We

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01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:05,360
Speaker 3: were formed as an organization in nineteen eighty nine on

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Speaker 3: April the fourth, But in nineteen ninety Namibia received its

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01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 3: independence and the first black president of that country, sam

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01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:21,480
Speaker 3: nu Jomo, came to power. And then a act of solidarity,

1840
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:26,599
Speaker 3: our organization shipped about seventy boxes of new clothing there,

1841
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:31,760
Speaker 3: you know, as our way of saluting the independence of Namibia.

1842
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:35,320
Speaker 3: And then in the year two thousand and three and

1843
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 3: I was sharing the I work with Kindred about what

1844
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 3: we had done. So in two thousand and three, after

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01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 3: visiting Zimbabwe in two thousand and two with brother Agaba

1846
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:50,600
Speaker 3: Muhammad of the Nation of Islam, who was their international representative,

1847
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:54,880
Speaker 3: and having met the President of the Zambabwe at that time,

1848
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 3: Robert Mugabi, we came back to Saint Louis and organized

1849
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:04,880
Speaker 3: a drive to ship four hundred and fifty boxes of

1850
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 3: clothing and medical supplies to Zambabwe, which I went there

1851
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:13,880
Speaker 3: to dedicate to the government and they designated that it

1852
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 3: was over two points some million dollars worth of goods

1853
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:20,400
Speaker 3: that we had shipped there. And then the following year

1854
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 3: two thousand and four there was a major hurricane that

1855
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 3: devastated Haiti, and several of our members are from the

1856
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 3: great country of Haiti, which by the way, it was

1857
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 3: the only country in the Western Hemisphere that achieved its

1858
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:45,440
Speaker 3: independence through a revolution struggle. But anyway, it had been devastated,

1859
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 3: as I mentioned, So we organized an effort to help

1860
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Speaker 3: Haiti and was able to ship over five hundred forty

1861
01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 3: some boxes of food, water, clothing, educational materials to help Haiti.

1862
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 3: And then the Ethiopian community in Saint Louis knew about

1863
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:08,680
Speaker 3: our firework and reached out to me and asked us

1864
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:12,360
Speaker 3: if we could conduct a drive to ship books to

1865
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 3: Ethiopia to help fight at lyriacy. So to that end,

1866
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 3: organization took upon that task and we had so many

1867
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 3: books from the community that we didn't even count books.

1868
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 3: We just estimated and put it on the front page

1869
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 3: of our newspaper that we had generated five thousand books.

1870
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 3: I went third to Edit Sababa to dedicate it. The

1871
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:42,679
Speaker 3: non governmental agency that had received the books actually counted

1872
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:45,920
Speaker 3: every book and it was actually nine dollars in books.

1873
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 3: And then that and then in twenty fifteen, one of

1874
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Speaker 3: our members that went to Ghana and he was asked

1875
01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 3: to help the building of a Livebruary in the shanty's

1876
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 3: land area there and we were able to shift ten

1877
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 3: about ten thousand books and so sharing that with Kendre

1878
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:14,200
Speaker 3: after she had shared with me, and I was so

1879
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 3: touched with her helping to the young students, female students

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Speaker 3: in Gambia. And after sharing that, she came back to

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01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:28,720
Speaker 3: me and asked that through the parent mayor of the

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01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:33,600
Speaker 3: Contu region, if we would sponsor a book drive to

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01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:38,519
Speaker 3: have built a library there. So we accepted that task

1884
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:40,800
Speaker 3: and I'm proud to stay by the grace of the

1885
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:44,759
Speaker 3: creator and in the spirit of the Armble Markets, Massage

1886
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:49,120
Speaker 3: Guardy Malcolm X and doctor King. We were able. We

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01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:54,120
Speaker 3: set an objective of seven thousand books, but on February

1888
01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 3: the tenth we were able to actually ship eight thousand,

1889
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 3: one hundred plus books. And those books we put out

1890
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 3: an appeal to the community for Apple centric books, Apple

1891
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:10,679
Speaker 3: centric children books.

1892
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Speaker 1: Right and hold that thought right there, brother Zaki, you

1893
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 1: gotta step aside for a few moments. I'll let you

1894
01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:17,040
Speaker 1: finish your thoughts. When you get back, it's eighteen minutes

1895
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:18,760
Speaker 1: off the top of the our family. I guess is

1896
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 1: the President General of the Universal African People's Organizations name

1897
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:24,720
Speaker 1: is Zaki Buruta. They're based in Saint Louis. And when

1898
01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:27,120
Speaker 1: we come back for both of you, along with Kendrick Phipps,

1899
01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:29,680
Speaker 1: Ambassador Phipps questions some people will say why are you

1900
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:33,040
Speaker 1: helping people overseas? You know people right here need help too,

1901
01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:35,680
Speaker 1: So I'll get your response on that. Family. You two

1902
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:38,160
Speaker 1: can join this conversation. Just reach out to us at

1903
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:41,680
Speaker 1: eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six and

1904
01:47:41,720 --> 01:47:44,759
Speaker 1: we'll take your phone calls. Next and Grand Rising family,

1905
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:46,800
Speaker 1: thanks for starting your Tuesday with us and our guest,

1906
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 1: the brother Zaki Buruti from Saint Louis's President General of

1907
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:54,719
Speaker 1: the Universal African People's Organization. Also with us at Kendrick Phipps,

1908
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:57,920
Speaker 1: Ambassador Phipps is helping the folks in the Gambia. So

1909
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:01,519
Speaker 1: the question for both of you out with the ambassador first, Well,

1910
01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:04,080
Speaker 1: when people hear what you're doing and they said why

1911
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:06,519
Speaker 1: are you helping folks overseas? People here on state side

1912
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:09,120
Speaker 1: they need that they need is kind of help us. Well,

1913
01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:12,000
Speaker 1: So Ambassador Ficial, what's your response.

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Speaker 14: Joe, here's my response, Carl, we are one group of

1915
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 14: people connected on a global perspective, our black experiences experiences

1916
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:27,639
Speaker 14: doesn't stop just here in the United States. When we're

1917
01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:32,800
Speaker 14: empowering the girls in the Gambia, we're strengthening our global community.

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01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 14: So when I get to ask that question, I always say,

1919
01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:41,000
Speaker 14: we're building the infrastructure and institution and doing the same

1920
01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:45,040
Speaker 14: locally and on a global perspective, we don't shrink with

1921
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 14: our compassion. We expanded and this work that we're doing

1922
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:54,080
Speaker 14: in the Gambia as well as expanding towards water wells,

1923
01:48:55,479 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 14: is an international humanitarian humanitarian app and so that's what

1924
01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:03,640
Speaker 14: I normally give as a response.

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Speaker 15: To that question.

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Speaker 1: All right, how about you, brother Zachia. I know you've

1927
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:09,599
Speaker 1: had that question post you quite a few times as well.

1928
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Speaker 3: Yes I have. But you know, in the spirit I

1929
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:16,599
Speaker 3: may mention early on, in the spirit of honorable markets

1930
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:20,360
Speaker 3: market side, Gary as well as Malcolm X and doctor King,

1931
01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:24,600
Speaker 3: they all would salute what we have done because we

1932
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:28,080
Speaker 3: have to have an international perspective that we are a

1933
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:31,680
Speaker 3: global people. And actually our history as the people here

1934
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:36,599
Speaker 3: in this country actually starts in Africa, and they everybody

1935
01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 3: know we were kidnapped from Africa and enslaved here, So

1936
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 3: it's I do. It's just as if we're helping people

1937
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:47,479
Speaker 3: in Chicago, New York. It's just a matter that we

1938
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:51,880
Speaker 3: have separated geographically. But along with that though, I'm proud

1939
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:57,040
Speaker 3: to say that our organization just doesn't focus on what's

1940
01:49:57,080 --> 01:50:00,639
Speaker 3: happened in Africa. We do national work as well as

1941
01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 3: local woods. I'm proud to say that on the national level,

1942
01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:09,080
Speaker 3: as you know, we help the people in Jackson, Mississippi.

1943
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:13,479
Speaker 3: One year when we as an organization shift and purchase

1944
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 3: over two thousand cases of water to help the people

1945
01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 3: of Jackson, Mississippi. We also, during the COVID crisis, was

1946
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:27,760
Speaker 3: able to network with some blackfarmers and was able to

1947
01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:31,040
Speaker 3: distribute over one hundred and forty four thousand worth of

1948
01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:35,240
Speaker 3: food products here in the Saint Louis area. It's also

1949
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:38,639
Speaker 3: and we are advocate organizations, not with a whole lot

1950
01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:41,559
Speaker 3: of dollars, but I believe we've done quite a lot.

1951
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:46,840
Speaker 3: We also just this year, there's a major homeless encampment

1952
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:50,360
Speaker 3: here in Saint Louis that we had gathered coats and

1953
01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:54,599
Speaker 3: clothing and other needed supplies to help our homeless people.

1954
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:58,719
Speaker 3: Some people called on house right here in Saint Louis.

1955
01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:02,120
Speaker 3: So it's about helping our people no matter where there

1956
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 3: are located. And to that end, though, car I'd be

1957
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:08,519
Speaker 3: very remiss if I was not able to go again

1958
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:12,479
Speaker 3: to loose the mighty people out of Saint Louis, Missouri

1959
01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:15,519
Speaker 3: who showed up and showed out in terms of the

1960
01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:20,680
Speaker 3: outpouring of support for the books, donating books as well

1961
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:24,200
Speaker 3: as financial donations as well as outside the Saint Louis

1962
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 3: were and there was too many people to acknowledge out

1963
01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:30,400
Speaker 3: of Saint Louis. But on the national level, I just

1964
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:32,880
Speaker 3: want to give a shout out to Brother cam Howard

1965
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:37,680
Speaker 3: of the Reparation Movement, Brother Bill Gooden who sent a

1966
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:42,040
Speaker 3: number of books, Brother Kamine Muhammad of the LC out

1967
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:46,200
Speaker 3: of Jackson, Mississippi, as well as the Sebetti Davis out

1968
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:48,560
Speaker 3: of New York for their support for what we do.

1969
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:53,599
Speaker 3: So I'm just proud that our organization we have, as

1970
01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:57,519
Speaker 3: I just mentioned, a local perspective where we're involved and

1971
01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:03,120
Speaker 3: also trying to get ositive representation on the political side

1972
01:52:03,200 --> 01:52:06,840
Speaker 3: for us. In fact, I think our organization has one

1973
01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 3: of the most progressive political thoughts for the twenty first century,

1974
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:16,280
Speaker 3: which we call proportionate political representation that we've been pushing

1975
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:19,720
Speaker 3: in terms of our first share of political power, and

1976
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:25,559
Speaker 3: as an extenxtension of that, gaining economic empowerment as well as,

1977
01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:27,920
Speaker 3: as you know, our organization has been out on the

1978
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:33,120
Speaker 3: forefront of police violence and addressing that issue, as well

1979
01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 3: as addressing the issues of global imparts in terms of

1980
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:43,320
Speaker 3: unjust wars that this government carry out. So again, the

1981
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:46,400
Speaker 3: bottom line and the spirit of the icons that our

1982
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:52,679
Speaker 3: people many times verbally the greatness of markets guarding Malcolm

1983
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:55,160
Speaker 3: X and Martin Luther King. We try to practice what

1984
01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:58,800
Speaker 3: we preach. So that's how we approach that question.

1985
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:01,920
Speaker 1: Got you twenty eight after the top of they out,

1986
01:53:01,960 --> 01:53:03,439
Speaker 1: and if some folks want to talk to you, both

1987
01:53:03,479 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 1: of you, Master Phipps and brother Zaki. Bill you mentioned

1988
01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:08,880
Speaker 1: Bill Gooden, he's on the line. He's online three calling

1989
01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 1: from Baltimore. A gund rising Billy around, my brother Zaki

1990
01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:13,439
Speaker 1: and also Ambassador Phipps.

1991
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:16,519
Speaker 13: Yeah, Sir, Tauble of the morning. Let me just say,

1992
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:19,599
Speaker 13: you know, Tauble the morning to both of the guests

1993
01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 13: and Ambassador Fish, thank you, Zaiqui, thank you. I just

1994
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:27,639
Speaker 13: want to congratulate down for their great work and college

1995
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:30,880
Speaker 13: you know, in my opinion, it's nothing better than leaving

1996
01:53:31,640 --> 01:53:34,640
Speaker 13: a recipe for people to follow. So, you know, I

1997
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:36,840
Speaker 13: just want to say, because I've been knowing Zaki for

1998
01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:39,640
Speaker 13: over forty years, right, so you know, when people have

1999
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:43,760
Speaker 13: been consistent in terms of what they're doing, and you know,

2000
01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:46,800
Speaker 13: I mean all the people that stepping in on footsteps,

2001
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:48,880
Speaker 13: I just think it's so important. I just want to

2002
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:52,800
Speaker 13: thank Zak for everything he do. And I say that

2003
01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 13: in terms of with a humble heart because I noticed

2004
01:53:57,240 --> 01:53:59,840
Speaker 13: their brother personally, you know, and he's also been like

2005
01:54:00,400 --> 01:54:02,479
Speaker 13: a mentor to me. I mean I learned a lot

2006
01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:07,360
Speaker 13: in reference to the political system, reference to government from

2007
01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 13: zi Kid as.

2008
01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:08,920
Speaker 3: Well as being.

2009
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:13,759
Speaker 13: One of the members that when the organization first started.

2010
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:16,600
Speaker 13: I just want to congratulate him and the sister for

2011
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 13: the great work that they're doing. And I just hope

2012
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:22,560
Speaker 13: that other people will continue to follow in their footsteps.

2013
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:27,080
Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Bill, Brother Zachie Master fifth. You want

2014
01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:28,519
Speaker 1: to respond to anything that Bill said.

2015
01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:33,240
Speaker 3: Yes, I would respond one again as I made mention,

2016
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 3: you know, thanking some of the people outside of Saint

2017
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:40,080
Speaker 3: Louis Biship course included Bill, but he said it's something

2018
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:43,600
Speaker 3: very important. I really wanted to get that out on

2019
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:47,880
Speaker 3: your show today. He said, a recipe. You know, we're

2020
01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 3: providing a recipe, and I'm challenging all of the conscious

2021
01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:59,560
Speaker 3: people who are listening to your program called today that

2022
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:03,040
Speaker 3: we should be doing this kind of work in terms

2023
01:55:03,080 --> 01:55:07,720
Speaker 3: of helping our people in Africa and other parts of

2024
01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:11,920
Speaker 3: the diaspora, by providing the kind of relief that can

2025
01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:15,720
Speaker 3: help our people so that we can actualize a vision.

2026
01:55:16,440 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 3: And that vision should be a United States of Africa

2027
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 3: that is as economically, educationally, and as militarily as powerful

2028
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:33,760
Speaker 3: as these other world powers that currently exist. That is

2029
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:38,320
Speaker 3: my dream, my passion, my prayer. I would like to

2030
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 3: be able to see that in my lifetime. But that

2031
01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:45,960
Speaker 3: should be the goal of us. Were Africa got to

2032
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:51,520
Speaker 3: become a world power that's respected, just as the respect

2033
01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 3: that's extended to China, India, and you know the United

2034
01:55:56,560 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 3: States in terms of its dominance in so many parts

2035
01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:03,120
Speaker 3: of the world. So we have to, as a grace

2036
01:56:03,240 --> 01:56:07,200
Speaker 3: of people, have that vision. As Garvey say, up you

2037
01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:09,880
Speaker 3: mighty race, accomplish what you will.

2038
01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 1: But brother Zachary, thirty minutes at the time that you know,

2039
01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:16,920
Speaker 1: many of our people don't think internationally, ill globally like

2040
01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:20,160
Speaker 1: you do. Other people see that vision what you're talking about,

2041
01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:24,920
Speaker 1: what Marcus Garvey also envisioned. They're so localized and they

2042
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:27,040
Speaker 1: will try to chop you down for doing something like

2043
01:56:27,160 --> 01:56:31,120
Speaker 1: that with your quick response to those folks, well.

2044
01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:35,360
Speaker 3: My response is that I definitely believe that there's something

2045
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:40,760
Speaker 3: greater than ourselves. I call it the creative God, hirant

2046
01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 3: name you put on it. That will all be judged.

2047
01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 3: And in that judgment is that we have to have

2048
01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:53,240
Speaker 3: a concern for humanity, starting with our own sales and

2049
01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:56,520
Speaker 3: so irregardless of any negativity, I have to do what

2050
01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:58,920
Speaker 3: I know I have to do, and that's to help

2051
01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:01,840
Speaker 3: my people, no matter where they are located.

2052
01:57:02,920 --> 01:57:04,600
Speaker 1: Got you twenty nine away from the top of the

2053
01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:08,400
Speaker 1: doctor Coffee right is joining us from Saint Louis Grand

2054
01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:11,400
Speaker 1: Writing Doctor Coffee Wright. You're on with Ambassador Phipson, Brother

2055
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:12,800
Speaker 1: yaquimber Hoodie.

2056
01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:16,240
Speaker 16: Grand Rising. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you,

2057
01:57:16,360 --> 01:57:17,040
Speaker 16: Miss Nelson.

2058
01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:17,720
Speaker 13: Yeah.

2059
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 16: In regards to people that are concerned with why why

2060
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:26,200
Speaker 16: are we reaching out? Because I'm a member of Universal

2061
01:57:26,240 --> 01:57:29,880
Speaker 16: African People Organization as well, and why are we reaching

2062
01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:34,160
Speaker 16: out across the diaspora? Another thing yeah, they don't have.

2063
01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:37,440
Speaker 16: If I'm not mistaken, this will be Gambia's first library.

2064
01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:40,440
Speaker 16: If not, it will be one of few. And I'm

2065
01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:44,840
Speaker 16: when I say few, maybe the second. And so that

2066
01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:48,840
Speaker 16: that's important. They need to we're burning books right here

2067
01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:51,200
Speaker 16: in the United States. We don't We don't even want

2068
01:57:51,320 --> 01:57:54,520
Speaker 16: our people here, our black brothers and sisters here to read.

2069
01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:58,880
Speaker 16: So we have to make sure that they our family

2070
01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:03,360
Speaker 16: over in Gambia and other countries know what we've been through,

2071
01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:06,200
Speaker 16: things that we have done at work, how to be

2072
01:58:06,280 --> 01:58:10,320
Speaker 16: aware of everything. And UAPO is actually partnering with my organization.

2073
01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:15,760
Speaker 16: I have an organization, I'm sorry, the Colored Troops Buffalo

2074
01:58:15,880 --> 01:58:18,640
Speaker 16: Soldiers Thirteenth Amendment Park, and you had me before I

2075
01:58:18,720 --> 01:58:21,800
Speaker 16: got a chance to share that. But anyway, we're going

2076
01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:28,160
Speaker 16: to have black books share within that park, and that

2077
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:31,640
Speaker 16: would be a bookstore where you can't check the books out,

2078
01:58:31,720 --> 01:58:34,360
Speaker 16: but you can hit hip coffee and read books about

2079
01:58:34,440 --> 01:58:37,760
Speaker 16: black power. So because our libraries right here in the

2080
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:40,880
Speaker 16: United States, of course, we have libraries in every state,

2081
01:58:41,560 --> 01:58:45,040
Speaker 16: but our libraries here are even becoming more and more

2082
01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:48,760
Speaker 16: limited on black books, especially the ones that are giving

2083
01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:51,040
Speaker 16: us the blueprint to do what we need to do

2084
01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:55,760
Speaker 16: so universe hosking people. We don't just help focus on

2085
01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:56,680
Speaker 16: out the country.

2086
01:58:56,720 --> 01:58:56,920
Speaker 4: We do.

2087
01:58:57,600 --> 01:59:01,360
Speaker 16: I mean, we're involved in every type of situation from

2088
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:06,600
Speaker 16: from children being stole into wrong for imprisonment, you name it.

2089
01:59:07,360 --> 01:59:11,080
Speaker 16: We're there and very supportive. So our people, you know,

2090
01:59:11,160 --> 01:59:14,440
Speaker 16: we are we are all together. You know, if it

2091
01:59:14,560 --> 01:59:18,320
Speaker 16: affects our African brothers and sisters in another country, it

2092
01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:21,680
Speaker 16: affects us because that's where we came from. We didn't

2093
01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:24,720
Speaker 16: come here on a love boat. They stole us from there,

2094
01:59:24,840 --> 01:59:27,600
Speaker 16: and we have to continue to share knowledge because as

2095
01:59:27,640 --> 01:59:29,120
Speaker 16: we know, knowledge is power.

2096
01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:34,640
Speaker 1: All right, Thank you doctor Coffee right, thank you, thanks

2097
01:59:34,680 --> 01:59:38,280
Speaker 1: all right, Ambassador FIBs your thoughts on what doctor.

2098
01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:41,440
Speaker 14: Coffee Right just said, I too want to take it

2099
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:44,000
Speaker 14: back off once. The one of the major points that

2100
01:59:44,080 --> 01:59:47,080
Speaker 14: she did say, when you look at the Kutar region

2101
01:59:47,160 --> 01:59:51,880
Speaker 14: in the Gambia, this will be the first installation of

2102
01:59:52,520 --> 01:59:58,400
Speaker 14: a library across that particular region, and it is so

2103
01:59:58,680 --> 02:00:03,520
Speaker 14: important that we give the books because by providing books,

2104
02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:07,760
Speaker 14: it's providing opportunity. When you limit the access to education,

2105
02:00:08,640 --> 02:00:11,600
Speaker 14: you limit the growth for the next generation. So when

2106
02:00:11,720 --> 02:00:15,760
Speaker 14: she said that, my heart starts to smile. Because we

2107
02:00:15,920 --> 02:00:21,040
Speaker 14: are installing the first library across multiple schools that are

2108
02:00:21,160 --> 02:00:24,480
Speaker 14: inside of that particular region. So I truly want to

2109
02:00:24,480 --> 02:00:27,680
Speaker 14: thank her for coming on and bringing that particular point out.

2110
02:00:28,600 --> 02:00:29,960
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this though, because most of

2111
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:33,000
Speaker 1: them in the Gambia, they speak French and other different

2112
02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:37,080
Speaker 1: languages and we're sending them English language books. How is that?

2113
02:00:37,240 --> 02:00:39,120
Speaker 1: How does that job? Did they have to learn the

2114
02:00:39,160 --> 02:00:40,960
Speaker 1: English language to be able to read these books?

2115
02:00:42,040 --> 02:00:46,680
Speaker 14: Oh there's another myscon Oh here's well, I was about

2116
02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:50,560
Speaker 14: to say, there's another misconception in that particular region. They

2117
02:00:50,680 --> 02:00:55,040
Speaker 14: speak English, and yes it is warlof that's another language,

2118
02:00:55,200 --> 02:00:59,160
Speaker 14: but their primary language is English. So the books we're

2119
02:00:59,160 --> 02:01:02,080
Speaker 14: sinning would be a great aid and a contribution.

2120
02:01:03,680 --> 02:01:04,280
Speaker 1: So lucky.

2121
02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just going to say that too, that

2122
02:01:08,400 --> 02:01:13,280
Speaker 3: the major language is English along with the native town.

2123
02:01:13,360 --> 02:01:17,800
Speaker 3: But also she called free on an absolute call for

2124
02:01:18,040 --> 02:01:22,080
Speaker 3: her dedicated work for the uplipment of us as a people.

2125
02:01:22,680 --> 02:01:26,800
Speaker 3: I'm proud to say that we also one year donated

2126
02:01:26,960 --> 02:01:30,680
Speaker 3: hundreds of books FO Centric books to the East Saint

2127
02:01:30,760 --> 02:01:34,840
Speaker 3: Louis Public Library. So, and I guess books have been

2128
02:01:34,920 --> 02:01:37,680
Speaker 3: my passion. You know, I'm a former educator and as

2129
02:01:37,720 --> 02:01:42,839
Speaker 3: an educator, I used to have my students be assigned

2130
02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:47,880
Speaker 3: to reading different books authored by black authors, including like

2131
02:01:48,040 --> 02:01:53,200
Speaker 3: Native Son by Richard Wright, Black Boy, and Altobiography of

2132
02:01:53,280 --> 02:01:56,080
Speaker 3: Malcolm X. In fact, the last two years and this

2133
02:01:56,280 --> 02:02:01,560
Speaker 3: year we adopted a high school in the Saint Louis area,

2134
02:02:01,680 --> 02:02:05,680
Speaker 3: Normity High School, where one year we donated about one

2135
02:02:05,760 --> 02:02:10,120
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty books free books of the Autobiography of

2136
02:02:10,200 --> 02:02:13,480
Speaker 3: Malcolm X to the senior class, and then we did

2137
02:02:14,280 --> 02:02:17,440
Speaker 3: the Coldest Winter Ever written by a Sister Soldier the

2138
02:02:17,560 --> 02:02:21,480
Speaker 3: following year. And this year we planned on having another program,

2139
02:02:21,600 --> 02:02:25,440
Speaker 3: black history program at Normally where we will be donating

2140
02:02:25,480 --> 02:02:31,000
Speaker 3: about one hundred and fifty books of Think and Grow,

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Speaker 3: rich a Black Charice by Napoleon Hill, and then it's Kimbroke.

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Speaker 3: So that's one of my passions to see our people

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Speaker 3: be educated, know their history, which, as you know so

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Speaker 3: many times, something of our young people have no sense

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Speaker 3: of the great history of us as the race of

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02:02:52,240 --> 02:02:57,560
Speaker 3: people and our struggles and those people who led the

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Speaker 3: movement to change the conviction of our people historically.

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Speaker 1: All right, hold that thought there s depiside for a

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Speaker 1: few moments. When we come back, Sister Kashibi wants to

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Speaker 1: join the conversation. Family, you two and get in on

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Speaker 1: this discussion with Zake Berruti, that's the fortune just heard

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02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:15,400
Speaker 1: and also Ambassador Phipps and they're journey they're helping the

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Speaker 1: brothers and sisters in the Gambia. What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 1: Reach out to us eight hundred four five zero seventy

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Speaker 1: eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls next

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Speaker 1: and Grand Rising family, thanks for rolling with us on

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Speaker 1: this Tuesday morning with our guest, the brother Zaki Brudy,

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Speaker 1: he's the President General of the Universally African People's Organization.

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Speaker 1: Also with Hims Ambassador Phipps, they're doing a lot of

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Speaker 1: good work in the Gambia. Before we go back then, though,

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Speaker 1: let me just remind you coming up later this week,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna hear from chemtologist Brother Tony Browner. Also historian

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Speaker 1: Michael m. O Tip will be here, Attorney Fire rose

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Speaker 1: To Ray will also join us, and the Master Teacher himself,

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Speaker 1: Ashruck Quasi will be here as well. So if you

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Speaker 1: are in Baltimore, make sure he radios locked in real

2167
02:03:53,880 --> 02:03:56,360
Speaker 1: tight on ten ten WLB or if you're in the

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Speaker 1: DMV area the Washington, DC Metropolitan Era fourteen fifty WL.

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Speaker 1: As I mentioned before we left for the break, Assistan

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Speaker 1: Kashiba and Silver Spring Maryland has a question for both

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Speaker 1: of you, Ambassador and also brother Szaki Grand Rising Sister Kashiba.

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Speaker 17: Grand Rising Curl excellent program as usual. I really want

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Speaker 17: to thank brother Saki for having this kind of organization.

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Speaker 13: Is so so much needed.

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Speaker 17: Okay, I have a question and I have a suggestion.

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Speaker 17: This is regarding those sanitary napkins for the girls in

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Speaker 17: the Gambia. Question is where do they purchase these products?

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Speaker 17: That's my question and my statement has to do with

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Speaker 17: the fact that Africa has some of the finest cotton.

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Speaker 4: In the world.

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Speaker 17: Now, are those people in that area growing cotton? Can

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Speaker 17: that cotton be used? Can the students or the people

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Speaker 17: in that a weave well, Africans are excellent weavers. Something

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Speaker 17: like cotton production in the manufacture of sanitary napkins, I

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02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:15,720
Speaker 17: think is something that can be done right there on site.

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Speaker 17: Have they thought about maybe making something like sanitary napkins

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Speaker 17: that the students themselves can be responsible for doing. Something

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02:05:28,840 --> 02:05:32,840
Speaker 17: like cotton cloths can also be washed and reused, whereas

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Speaker 17: a sanitary napkin you just threw away. What other kinds

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Speaker 17: of ideas have they? Have they done or have thought

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Speaker 17: about in using sanitary napkins.

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Speaker 14: That is an amazing question and I too. We want

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Speaker 14: to answer it in two parts. The first part is

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Speaker 14: is that Phase one is providing sanitary naw napkins, and

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02:06:00,920 --> 02:06:04,960
Speaker 14: we believe in stimulated the economy locally, so we did

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Speaker 14: partner with the store and yes, we're purchasing the napkins

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Speaker 14: from a local store that provides transportation to the villages.

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Speaker 14: Phase two is she Rise and this will be a

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Speaker 14: manufacturing facility because yes, that is a great grade of

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Speaker 14: cotton that will be produced and we produce and make

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Speaker 14: our own sanitary napkins through she Rides that manufacturing facility.

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Speaker 14: So we're doing all of our due diligence and we

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Speaker 14: partner with Prayer Review Business Center working through our business

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02:06:38,120 --> 02:06:42,280
Speaker 14: plan to develop on site a facility so they can

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Speaker 14: make and produce their own sanitary napkins and make and

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02:06:46,000 --> 02:06:50,320
Speaker 14: produce their own raw materials. So that is phase two

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02:06:50,520 --> 02:06:54,400
Speaker 14: in our process, and so you're exactly right. We will

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Speaker 14: have a student component where we will hire the kids

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Speaker 14: from the high school. It's almost like a work study program.

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Speaker 14: I grew up in Buyou, Mississippi, and we had a

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Speaker 14: work study program, and so we will hire the students

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Speaker 14: to be a part of that work study program in

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Speaker 14: phase two. So that was a very good question, and

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02:07:15,800 --> 02:07:17,280
Speaker 14: thank you so much for asking.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, so I'm glad that you're not having to purchase

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Speaker 17: them from manufacturers over seas. That is going to be

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02:07:25,680 --> 02:07:30,040
Speaker 17: done locally, so we keep the money circulating right in

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Speaker 17: the area. Thank you very much for and God bless

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02:07:33,480 --> 02:07:34,760
Speaker 17: you all for doing what you do.

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Speaker 18: Thank you, Thank you Bill and Zachi.

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Speaker 1: Your project with the books, How did that start? What

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02:07:43,720 --> 02:07:46,040
Speaker 1: was the reason why you decided to give books to the.

2223
02:07:46,080 --> 02:07:53,720
Speaker 3: Gambia Again, it came directly as the request from Ambassador

2224
02:07:53,840 --> 02:08:00,480
Speaker 3: Phipps and in fact with our land international effort in

2225
02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:04,400
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen. For me, psychologically, that was going to be

2226
02:08:04,560 --> 02:08:08,760
Speaker 3: my last effort. But when she brought it to me,

2227
02:08:09,000 --> 02:08:12,840
Speaker 3: and as I had made mentioned earlier, she touched my

2228
02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:17,040
Speaker 3: heart with her effort to help the high school students

2229
02:08:17,120 --> 02:08:21,840
Speaker 3: in Gambia, and so how could I not resist happen?

2230
02:08:22,120 --> 02:08:25,840
Speaker 3: And so I assumed that tax she and I, you know,

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02:08:25,840 --> 02:08:29,720
Speaker 3: I'm a spiritual I considered myself a spiritual person, and

2232
02:08:29,920 --> 02:08:33,560
Speaker 3: we went a top foot I consider a holy place

2233
02:08:33,640 --> 02:08:38,560
Speaker 3: for me, a monks couchia mounds to prey on it.

2234
02:08:40,840 --> 02:08:45,160
Speaker 3: And then after that we engaged in the hard work.

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02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:46,960
Speaker 3: And let me tell you, it was not an easy

2236
02:08:47,160 --> 02:08:50,520
Speaker 3: tax to make it happen. It involved a lot of work,

2237
02:08:51,000 --> 02:08:53,600
Speaker 3: a lot of support from our members and just the

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02:08:53,720 --> 02:08:56,880
Speaker 3: community in general to make it happen. And you know

2239
02:08:56,960 --> 02:09:00,600
Speaker 3: what called on the day that we shift the books,

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Speaker 3: which was on Tuesday, February tenth, the sixteen wheeler that

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02:09:07,160 --> 02:09:09,640
Speaker 3: came to pick up the books to take it to

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Speaker 3: the port to be shipped in the container over these

2243
02:09:14,880 --> 02:09:17,960
Speaker 3: I would say that so proud that the person that

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02:09:19,520 --> 02:09:22,840
Speaker 3: came with the sixteen wheeler was a black man that

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02:09:23,080 --> 02:09:29,200
Speaker 3: owned his own shipping truck, shipping shipping truck company, and

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02:09:29,360 --> 02:09:31,480
Speaker 3: that just popped it off for me, you know, in

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02:09:31,680 --> 02:09:35,400
Speaker 3: terms of the symbolism of us helping each other and

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02:09:36,080 --> 02:09:38,840
Speaker 3: the economics behind it all.

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Speaker 1: Right, twelve way from the top with brother Zachi Bruti,

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Speaker 1: that's the whatic you just heard. He's the President general

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Speaker 1: of the Universal of African People's Organization. They're based in

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02:09:46,600 --> 02:09:49,720
Speaker 1: Saint Louis. Along with Ambassador Phipps. A question for both

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02:09:49,760 --> 02:09:52,360
Speaker 1: of you, though, how did you ensure that the people

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02:09:52,560 --> 02:09:54,920
Speaker 1: who really need the items that you're shipp into the

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Speaker 1: gamber get them? How you know they somewhere around the

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Speaker 1: route they're not hijacked by some other group saying that

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02:10:00,480 --> 02:10:03,160
Speaker 1: that happened. But how can you the people who donate

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02:10:03,200 --> 02:10:04,720
Speaker 1: for you, make sure that it goes in the hands

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Speaker 1: that really need them. Ambassador First, well, let.

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Speaker 14: Let me start by saying, I hear that story so

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02:10:12,360 --> 02:10:16,240
Speaker 14: many times that people are concerned about shipping things that

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02:10:16,360 --> 02:10:18,240
Speaker 14: we will get hijacked and don't make it to the

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Speaker 14: end user.

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Speaker 11: And the biggest thing that I.

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Speaker 14: Would say that will create a considerable amount of success

2266
02:10:27,320 --> 02:10:30,200
Speaker 14: it's connecting with the local mayors or someone in the

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02:10:30,280 --> 02:10:31,160
Speaker 14: local government.

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Speaker 1: And so for us.

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Speaker 14: With our particular project and everything that we're doing, we

2270
02:10:37,280 --> 02:10:41,200
Speaker 14: connected with the local mayor, their Genrara and the council

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02:10:41,960 --> 02:10:48,640
Speaker 14: and they are very very strategic about making sure that

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Speaker 14: the end user get what we're shipping. Use for an example,

2273
02:10:53,600 --> 02:10:57,560
Speaker 14: the sanitary napkins. We build an entire program where the

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Speaker 14: students go in and meet with a teach sure and

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02:11:00,440 --> 02:11:03,760
Speaker 14: asks for the product, and then they sign a sheet

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02:11:03,880 --> 02:11:06,800
Speaker 14: saying that I needed this product. So they're named the

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02:11:06,960 --> 02:11:10,040
Speaker 14: date in their age and it's all about being able

2278
02:11:10,160 --> 02:11:12,640
Speaker 14: to track. And we're going to do the same thing

2279
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Speaker 14: with the books because we have a relationship with the

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Speaker 14: Region Education Directorate and we're going to work with them

2281
02:11:19,400 --> 02:11:22,400
Speaker 14: to make sure that the schools that need the books

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Speaker 14: will receive the books.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm sure a lot of people that will

2284
02:11:27,520 --> 02:11:29,360
Speaker 1: be concerned that a lot of people that you've sent

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02:11:29,440 --> 02:11:32,080
Speaker 1: it overseas and they ends up in somebody's store and

2286
02:11:32,120 --> 02:11:34,240
Speaker 1: they're selling the books and all the items that you've

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02:11:34,560 --> 02:11:37,120
Speaker 1: got gavin here and sent to the Gambia. So I'm

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02:11:38,240 --> 02:11:40,520
Speaker 1: sure that's a question you get all the time, brother Zaki.

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Speaker 3: Well, she answered that the Maria of the community that

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02:11:47,080 --> 02:11:49,720
Speaker 3: we're shipping it to will be at the port to

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02:11:51,480 --> 02:11:58,440
Speaker 3: receive the books and then we also will be gone

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02:11:58,640 --> 02:12:03,840
Speaker 3: to Gambia State else and dedicating the officially the books.

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02:12:04,520 --> 02:12:07,640
Speaker 3: So uh, and in that she has already a very

2294
02:12:07,760 --> 02:12:13,000
Speaker 3: positive relationship with the Marror, I'm sure that uh as

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02:12:13,120 --> 02:12:16,880
Speaker 3: will be uh uh in the hands of the people

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02:12:17,040 --> 02:12:21,120
Speaker 3: that we have decided it would be uh delivered to.

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02:12:21,520 --> 02:12:25,040
Speaker 3: So uh that's already accomplished, and you know in our paths.

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02:12:25,800 --> 02:12:28,680
Speaker 3: You know, I mentioned about when I went to Zimbabwe

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02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:33,760
Speaker 3: on one of our projects, the government did actually receive them.

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Speaker 3: Every prayer that we have shipped goods, the people who

2301
02:12:38,440 --> 02:12:41,480
Speaker 3: we were shipping them to did receive them, and they

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02:12:41,520 --> 02:12:45,480
Speaker 3: were very credible, credible people. And you remember I was

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02:12:45,520 --> 02:12:49,240
Speaker 3: saying about an epio, but when we shipped books there

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02:12:49,920 --> 02:12:53,360
Speaker 3: to the nonprofit there, they actually had counted every book

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02:12:53,400 --> 02:12:57,320
Speaker 3: that we had shipped and we got complimentary letters from

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02:12:57,360 --> 02:13:00,160
Speaker 3: that particular organization for the work we had done there.

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02:13:00,840 --> 02:13:04,520
Speaker 3: So at the BOTT learned that to receive and the

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02:13:04,720 --> 02:13:08,440
Speaker 3: end of our work, we have credible people who we

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02:13:08,720 --> 02:13:13,920
Speaker 3: have a working relationship that will make sure that our

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Speaker 3: items the people will receive what we have shipped over there.

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Speaker 1: All right, Nine away from the topic a bandge the fifth,

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02:13:22,280 --> 02:13:26,040
Speaker 1: when's your next trip to the Gambia? And can are

2313
02:13:26,080 --> 02:13:28,040
Speaker 1: you taking people with you or on tour or is

2314
02:13:28,080 --> 02:13:29,120
Speaker 1: it just a solo run?

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02:13:30,360 --> 02:13:33,520
Speaker 14: No, we're we're it's actually a group of us are

2316
02:13:33,600 --> 02:13:39,040
Speaker 14: heading over to the Gambia April the twentieth through the thirtieth,

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02:13:39,800 --> 02:13:42,720
Speaker 14: and so we were stopping the car for a few

2318
02:13:42,840 --> 02:13:45,560
Speaker 14: days and they were going to the Gambia for the

2319
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Speaker 14: installation of the books, also celebrating cycle for success and

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02:13:50,800 --> 02:13:53,760
Speaker 14: also there would be a stone festival, so it would

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Speaker 14: be a group of us on that particular trip. We

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02:13:57,520 --> 02:13:59,960
Speaker 14: also have a partnership with the War Confidence of Maya

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02:14:00,600 --> 02:14:03,440
Speaker 14: and they're going to be along with the UAPO and

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02:14:03,680 --> 02:14:08,080
Speaker 14: Bridge Foundation taking that particular trip April the twentieth through

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Speaker 14: the thirtieth.

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Speaker 1: Do you see yourself expanding this this this I want

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02:14:13,160 --> 02:14:14,880
Speaker 1: to call a crusade, but this project, do you see

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02:14:14,880 --> 02:14:17,720
Speaker 1: you expanding it to other countries or other items that

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02:14:17,960 --> 02:14:19,320
Speaker 1: the people in the Gambia may need.

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Speaker 14: Yes, yes, we see the We definitely see the expansion.

2331
02:14:25,120 --> 02:14:31,120
Speaker 14: We've also been invited to go to one of the

2332
02:14:31,200 --> 02:14:34,800
Speaker 14: countries that they're near dear to my heart, Senegal, along

2333
02:14:34,920 --> 02:14:39,320
Speaker 14: with Guinea, along with Sierra Leone. So those are three

2334
02:14:39,480 --> 02:14:43,040
Speaker 14: countries that have already extended an invitation to us. And

2335
02:14:43,160 --> 02:14:46,600
Speaker 14: as we continue to raise funds and to build those

2336
02:14:46,640 --> 02:14:52,320
Speaker 14: strategic partners to expand our operation, we already have three

2337
02:14:52,560 --> 02:14:56,600
Speaker 14: countries that have already extended an invitation to us. And

2338
02:14:56,720 --> 02:14:57,440
Speaker 14: what we're doing.

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02:14:58,520 --> 02:15:01,800
Speaker 1: I got to ask you this about is it possibility

2340
02:15:01,840 --> 02:15:04,520
Speaker 1: that you can have talks about dual citizenships because you

2341
02:15:04,560 --> 02:15:07,320
Speaker 1: know a lot of peop folks when they go Zaki cantest.

2342
02:15:07,840 --> 02:15:09,960
Speaker 1: When you go to especially go to an African nation,

2343
02:15:10,080 --> 02:15:12,120
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, I wish I could have stayed here

2344
02:15:12,160 --> 02:15:13,640
Speaker 1: all the time, wish I didn't have to come back

2345
02:15:13,640 --> 02:15:16,080
Speaker 1: and deal with these jokers back in the US. Are

2346
02:15:16,120 --> 02:15:18,360
Speaker 1: you going to help? It's gonna be a way that

2347
02:15:18,600 --> 02:15:20,720
Speaker 1: you're going to have those kind of discussions on dual

2348
02:15:20,800 --> 02:15:23,360
Speaker 1: citizenship that people can move permanently to the Gambia.

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Speaker 14: Yes, we're in talks with that currently right now. And

2350
02:15:28,400 --> 02:15:30,640
Speaker 14: even when you go to the Gambia, you get a

2351
02:15:30,760 --> 02:15:32,960
Speaker 14: visa once you hit the ground, so you can get

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02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:38,280
Speaker 14: a five year visa. They are in the Gambia, So yes,

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02:15:38,400 --> 02:15:41,720
Speaker 14: we're in talks with dual citizenship, and that would be

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Speaker 14: a discussion when we get over there in in April

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Speaker 14: to further that discussion and give our brothers and sister

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Speaker 14: an opportunity if they're looking for another place. The Gambia

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Speaker 14: community would love to welcome them. Because my first trip

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Speaker 14: was last May and it was all smeuths, It was safe.

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Speaker 14: It was a beautiful experience to make me come back

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Speaker 14: with my hair on fire. So that we can continue

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Speaker 14: to expand what we're doing in the Gambia. So yes,

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Speaker 14: I look forward to bringing more information back with us

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Speaker 14: on that particular talking point. So yes, dual citizenship is

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Speaker 14: at the top of my list, all right.

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Speaker 1: Because I know a lot of folks that were thinking

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Speaker 1: about now is the time that there's so many issues

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02:16:27,400 --> 02:16:29,880
Speaker 1: going on here, they want to move abroad and many

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Speaker 1: of course, as Zach, you know, there's many of them

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Speaker 1: moved to Ghana and other countries. But Ghana and South

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02:16:35,879 --> 02:16:40,880
Speaker 1: Africa and Michella, not Senegal. Oh it'll come to me

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02:16:40,920 --> 02:16:43,400
Speaker 1: in a minute, the other country that most African Americans

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02:16:43,440 --> 02:16:46,360
Speaker 1: are moving to. But they were taking up you know,

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02:16:46,520 --> 02:16:49,320
Speaker 1: citizenship in those countries because of what's going on here.

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Speaker 1: And I know Donald Trump is threatening to do away

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Speaker 1: with dual citizenships if you have to be commit yourself

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Speaker 1: to the United States. So that's going to be another issue.

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Speaker 1: Is this something that you talk about to Abassador Phipps.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes it is.

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Speaker 14: And currently working with the World Confidence of Mayors and

2380
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Speaker 14: our partners. The goal for this particular trip in April

2381
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Speaker 14: is to expand those talks, not only on the local

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Speaker 14: level but also with the President. My goal is our

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Speaker 14: goal is to meet the President of the Gambia. And

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Speaker 14: so I look forward to coming back on your show

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Speaker 14: and sharing a little bit more information. Currently, right now,

2386
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Speaker 14: we have access to two hundred acres that's going to

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Speaker 14: be donated to the she Rise of Projects for that

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02:17:35,360 --> 02:17:40,080
Speaker 14: processing facility plan. So in the Gunjar region, they're already

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Speaker 14: making concessions to be able to provide land for us

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Speaker 14: to continue to build and do economic development projects. So

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Speaker 14: I look forward to sharing more with your car and

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02:17:51,920 --> 02:17:54,840
Speaker 14: your audience undual citizenship in the Gambia.

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Speaker 1: All right, before we let you go, because we know

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02:17:57,360 --> 02:18:00,160
Speaker 1: you're a busy woman. How folks want to help in

2395
02:18:00,200 --> 02:18:01,440
Speaker 1: this product? How can I reach you?

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Speaker 14: Well, before you let me go, there's another topic that

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Speaker 14: I know that zay Key wanted to talk about. And yes,

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Speaker 14: I'm very busy and in Atlanta, I do want a

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Speaker 14: share call. In Atlanta, we're getting ready to do a

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Speaker 14: ribbon cutting for the Museum of Stolen Pages and Knowledge Institute,

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02:18:23,680 --> 02:18:28,760
Speaker 14: and this particular museum that is launched this weekend coming

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Speaker 14: up February the twenty eighth. In March, the first dot

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Speaker 14: Ee People is doing a benefit concert on the first

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Speaker 14: So if you're in the Atlanta area, please come by

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02:18:39,520 --> 02:18:43,120
Speaker 14: two thousand and one, doctor Marin Luther King Drive and

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02:18:43,480 --> 02:18:47,440
Speaker 14: I'm the executive director of that particular museum, and our

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02:18:47,520 --> 02:18:51,080
Speaker 14: goal is to restore the record. So I am very busy,

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02:18:51,360 --> 02:18:54,960
Speaker 14: but I do understand how important it is said to

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02:18:55,320 --> 02:18:59,400
Speaker 14: make sure that the history that was our history was

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02:18:59,480 --> 02:19:02,720
Speaker 14: not law. It was just removed. And our goal is

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Speaker 14: to restore the record. So you can definitely meet me

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Speaker 14: in person in Atlanta two thousand and one, Martin Luther

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02:19:11,000 --> 02:19:15,880
Speaker 14: King dried there at the Museum of Stolen Pages and

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Speaker 14: Knowledge Institute. My number is six one eight six one

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Speaker 14: seven zero again six one eight six one seven zero.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you, ambassador, and again hopefully we can

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02:19:32,120 --> 02:19:33,800
Speaker 1: support you on what you do. Thank you for sharing

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Speaker 1: your thoughts with us this morning. All right, family, that's

2419
02:19:38,680 --> 02:19:40,480
Speaker 1: brother Zaki is going to remain with us as we

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02:19:40,800 --> 02:19:43,600
Speaker 1: step aside so our stations can identify themselves down the

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02:19:43,640 --> 02:19:45,920
Speaker 1: line per the FCC. We come back that we're going

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02:19:45,959 --> 02:19:48,760
Speaker 1: to talk about international local issues with brother Zaki Brewdi

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02:19:49,120 --> 02:19:51,440
Speaker 1: and you two can do join the discussion. Just reach

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02:19:51,480 --> 02:19:54,279
Speaker 1: out to us at eight hundred four five zero seventy

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Speaker 1: eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls next

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02:19:57,600 --> 02:19:59,680
Speaker 1: and Grand Rising Family, thanks you for rolling with us

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Speaker 1: on this Tuesday morning with our guest a Zaki. Brudi's brother,

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02:20:02,600 --> 02:20:06,040
Speaker 1: Zaki is the President general of the Universally African People's

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Speaker 1: Organization and they're based based in Saint Louis, Brother Zaki. Tonight,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's going to give his State of the Union

2431
02:20:11,800 --> 02:20:14,560
Speaker 1: address and he's probably gonna tick off some of his

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02:20:14,800 --> 02:20:18,000
Speaker 1: quote unquote accomplishments and I He's gonna talk about Venezuela,

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02:20:18,000 --> 02:20:20,359
Speaker 1: it's gonna talk about Cuba and talk about the possibility

2434
02:20:20,360 --> 02:20:23,640
Speaker 1: of Iran and what happened in Minnesota. Uh, let's start

2435
02:20:23,720 --> 02:20:25,880
Speaker 1: with Minnesota. Do you think is there anything he can

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02:20:25,959 --> 02:20:28,880
Speaker 1: point to that they've they've actually done as a credit

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Speaker 1: to what's going on in Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: I would think that, in my opinion, that he could

2439
02:20:33,560 --> 02:20:38,080
Speaker 3: point to is that they care raz the community there,

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02:20:38,280 --> 02:20:42,920
Speaker 3: especially the community coming from Somebodia and Ethiopia.

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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02:20:44,280 --> 02:20:48,359
Speaker 3: And uh the terror of supposed in trying to remove

2443
02:20:49,280 --> 02:20:54,320
Speaker 3: so called immigrants when this country, including his criminal family history,

2444
02:20:54,879 --> 02:20:59,200
Speaker 3: grandparents they came from outside of this country, including his

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02:20:59,400 --> 02:21:03,879
Speaker 3: wife and uh so on that issue.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you know, well, let me jump in because what

2447
02:21:07,640 --> 02:21:08,840
Speaker 1: you said was true. But what do you think is

2448
02:21:08,879 --> 02:21:09,240
Speaker 1: behind that?

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02:21:09,320 --> 02:21:09,480
Speaker 3: Though?

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02:21:09,560 --> 02:21:12,320
Speaker 1: What what the immigration issue? Do you think it's it's

2451
02:21:13,280 --> 02:21:16,160
Speaker 1: it's just opposing, It's just it's just for you know,

2452
02:21:17,040 --> 02:21:19,800
Speaker 1: political standoff. He will because he thought that we'd be

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02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:21,520
Speaker 1: popular with the folks who follow him.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely one issue. Uh that Uh that was a founding

2455
02:21:27,760 --> 02:21:32,439
Speaker 3: board or something that many of his so called mega supporters.

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02:21:32,600 --> 02:21:38,920
Speaker 3: Uh uh we're pushing because they felt that quote unquote

2457
02:21:38,959 --> 02:21:43,600
Speaker 3: white dominance had been weakened with people of color uh

2458
02:21:43,800 --> 02:21:49,680
Speaker 3: coming into different political positions and uh quote unquote taking

2459
02:21:49,959 --> 02:21:54,560
Speaker 3: jobs away from white folks and white folks being discriminated against. Yeah,

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02:21:54,680 --> 02:21:59,600
Speaker 3: they use that as a whipping uh uh or two

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Speaker 3: route their their base. So and as you know, many

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02:22:05,640 --> 02:22:08,440
Speaker 3: of the folks who they rounded up, they've used the

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02:22:08,520 --> 02:22:12,200
Speaker 3: excuse of rounding up criminals and what have you. That

2464
02:22:12,400 --> 02:22:15,040
Speaker 3: was just a small percentage, but many of the folks

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02:22:15,120 --> 02:22:18,280
Speaker 3: who they that they did round up to send outside

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02:22:18,320 --> 02:22:21,960
Speaker 3: of the country, where people who were have lived in

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Speaker 3: this country for a number of years and contribute to

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02:22:25,280 --> 02:22:28,920
Speaker 3: this country. But it's uh, it goes back to white

2469
02:22:29,120 --> 02:22:33,920
Speaker 3: nationalism and my humble opinion, and uh, you know, to uh.

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Speaker 3: If you look at the history of how Adolf Hitler

2471
02:22:36,600 --> 02:22:39,760
Speaker 3: came to power, they had to have people that they

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02:22:39,840 --> 02:22:45,039
Speaker 3: can be the de mantegrate and uh to rally their

2473
02:22:45,200 --> 02:22:50,480
Speaker 3: base and uh push their agenda and their agenda. And

2474
02:22:50,640 --> 02:22:54,600
Speaker 3: as you know, UH, he have a bile hatred really

2475
02:22:54,680 --> 02:22:58,920
Speaker 3: of accent house. You remember, people have sharp memories and

2476
02:22:59,080 --> 02:23:05,920
Speaker 3: he was using words hi t in describing countries of Africa.

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02:23:06,560 --> 02:23:10,280
Speaker 3: So as well as as everyone know, he reposted a

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02:23:11,600 --> 02:23:18,160
Speaker 3: a cartoon of the Obamas and eight oups, you know,

2479
02:23:18,320 --> 02:23:22,280
Speaker 3: monkey soups. Shall I say so his agenda is really

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02:23:22,440 --> 02:23:25,440
Speaker 3: white racism at the highest level or shall I say

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02:23:25,520 --> 02:23:26,599
Speaker 3: white nationalism?

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Speaker 1: Well, I got to ask this question five after the

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02:23:29,280 --> 02:23:32,360
Speaker 1: top of Brother Zaki. What about the black Maga supporters.

2484
02:23:32,840 --> 02:23:36,840
Speaker 1: They weren't perturbed about the picture depicts the Obama's apes

2485
02:23:37,000 --> 02:23:39,080
Speaker 1: and some of them probably chared it on and this

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02:23:39,920 --> 02:23:41,640
Speaker 1: what do you say to them? Did they take too

2487
02:23:41,680 --> 02:23:42,400
Speaker 1: much of the kool aid?

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02:23:42,560 --> 02:23:46,080
Speaker 3: Or what they drank a whole lot of the kool aid?

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02:23:48,200 --> 02:23:52,480
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, historically, you know, we have had

2490
02:23:53,280 --> 02:23:57,480
Speaker 3: different people of our own race that have betrayed the race,

2491
02:23:57,640 --> 02:24:01,480
Speaker 3: doing the different slave up risings. You know, you had

2492
02:24:02,120 --> 02:24:05,160
Speaker 3: the Negro who would go tell the masters that we

2493
02:24:05,280 --> 02:24:12,400
Speaker 3: were planning to revoke. You have historically had have had

2494
02:24:13,160 --> 02:24:18,959
Speaker 3: some of our people that have a pure dislike of themselves,

2495
02:24:19,160 --> 02:24:22,240
Speaker 3: you know, in fact on a personal level, you take

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02:24:22,400 --> 02:24:25,760
Speaker 3: He took me back to when I was teaching at

2497
02:24:26,560 --> 02:24:29,320
Speaker 3: a local public school system here in the East Saint Louis,

2498
02:24:29,400 --> 02:24:32,640
Speaker 3: when a dark skin I just had to put it

2499
02:24:32,720 --> 02:24:34,640
Speaker 3: out there because I always said that he must have

2500
02:24:35,160 --> 02:24:40,640
Speaker 3: grew up and was joned by this period at the time,

2501
02:24:40,840 --> 02:24:43,320
Speaker 3: because you know, it used to be a color thing

2502
02:24:43,440 --> 02:24:46,960
Speaker 3: among us in terms of skin color. That he ordered

2503
02:24:47,000 --> 02:24:51,040
Speaker 3: me to take down during Black History uh uh program

2504
02:24:51,640 --> 02:24:55,400
Speaker 3: a buzzing board that had a collage of people that

2505
02:24:55,520 --> 02:24:58,600
Speaker 3: looked like you and I. He ordered me to take

2506
02:24:58,640 --> 02:25:01,840
Speaker 3: it down because he tried was offensive because no pictures

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02:25:01,959 --> 02:25:04,600
Speaker 3: or white folks was on the bulletin board. So you

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02:25:04,800 --> 02:25:10,120
Speaker 3: have folks among us who don't like themselves and warm

2509
02:25:10,240 --> 02:25:13,920
Speaker 3: to them and are willing to work on behalf of

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02:25:15,760 --> 02:25:22,200
Speaker 3: fight power. Another classic example historically was the killing of

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02:25:22,280 --> 02:25:26,400
Speaker 3: Fred Hampton and Mark Clark. You had an agent among

2512
02:25:26,600 --> 02:25:33,480
Speaker 3: them who laid out diagram of the housing condition that

2513
02:25:33,720 --> 02:25:39,160
Speaker 3: Mark Clark and Fred Hampton were living at as well

2514
02:25:39,240 --> 02:25:42,600
Speaker 3: as was in structed to put a drug in Fred

2515
02:25:42,640 --> 02:25:46,680
Speaker 3: Hampton's land so that he'd be wouldn't be able to

2516
02:25:47,440 --> 02:25:52,760
Speaker 3: properly respond to the attack upon their apartment by the

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02:25:52,959 --> 02:25:59,560
Speaker 3: Chicago Police Department and FBI in nineteen sixty nine, killing

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Speaker 3: both of them. So, you know the sadness of it.

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02:26:03,720 --> 02:26:07,240
Speaker 3: You had black folks on the international level of Negros

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02:26:08,000 --> 02:26:12,160
Speaker 3: who helped with the killing Patricia la Mumber in the Congo.

2521
02:26:12,920 --> 02:26:17,360
Speaker 3: So that just goes with the uh, you know our people,

2522
02:26:17,520 --> 02:26:21,520
Speaker 3: not some of our people who have a hatred for

2523
02:26:21,560 --> 02:26:25,640
Speaker 3: ourselves and and and being historically even though not just us,

2524
02:26:26,000 --> 02:26:28,720
Speaker 3: the Native Americas never forget the story of how they

2525
02:26:28,800 --> 02:26:33,520
Speaker 3: tried to capture Uh Geronimo uh Uh. They had a

2526
02:26:33,760 --> 02:26:40,440
Speaker 3: Native Uh indigenous people who was working at scouts. They

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02:26:40,600 --> 02:26:44,000
Speaker 3: captured Geronimo and they brought them back to the Fort

2528
02:26:44,440 --> 02:26:48,400
Speaker 3: uh you know, where the United States military was at,

2529
02:26:49,080 --> 02:26:52,280
Speaker 3: and the military ordered them to turn in their weapons

2530
02:26:52,320 --> 02:26:55,960
Speaker 3: and they send them all to the concentration camps at

2531
02:26:56,040 --> 02:27:00,520
Speaker 3: that time, which it was called reservations. So they just

2532
02:27:00,680 --> 02:27:04,520
Speaker 3: don't understand that white power don't even like them, and

2533
02:27:04,600 --> 02:27:06,800
Speaker 3: they just use them for the period of time that

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02:27:06,879 --> 02:27:07,840
Speaker 3: they be using them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And besides all that, though, do you see an

2536
02:27:11,440 --> 02:27:14,440
Speaker 1: awakening among black people globally? We see what's going on

2537
02:27:15,440 --> 02:27:17,960
Speaker 1: in the Hall nations, you know in this year Bikino,

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02:27:18,040 --> 02:27:21,039
Speaker 1: Fosso and Maali, we see black people are standing up.

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02:27:21,240 --> 02:27:23,400
Speaker 1: Do you have the impression that we're getting the same

2540
02:27:23,480 --> 02:27:26,560
Speaker 1: thing state side, that more and more Black folks are

2541
02:27:26,600 --> 02:27:30,960
Speaker 1: being awake and instead of using the word woke, somehow

2542
02:27:31,080 --> 02:27:34,640
Speaker 1: the white folks, the colonizers turned that into a pejorative,

2543
02:27:34,800 --> 02:27:37,400
Speaker 1: but people see it really means something else when we

2544
02:27:37,520 --> 02:27:40,600
Speaker 1: say you woke. Are you seeing a resurgence of black

2545
02:27:40,720 --> 02:27:45,240
Speaker 1: national and black respect black power globally on the.

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02:27:45,240 --> 02:27:48,560
Speaker 3: Global side, of course, and as you just mentioned that

2547
02:27:48,959 --> 02:27:53,640
Speaker 3: hel Uh that is a great hope and not humble

2548
02:27:53,720 --> 02:27:56,960
Speaker 3: opinion for the rise of black people on the continent

2549
02:27:57,120 --> 02:28:00,879
Speaker 3: of Africa. And we're speaking of special King of Fatso

2550
02:28:01,040 --> 02:28:05,879
Speaker 3: with his new leader uh Triorry and uh na Jeer

2551
02:28:06,320 --> 02:28:12,120
Speaker 3: and uh Maley also uh Namibia is taking a very

2552
02:28:12,240 --> 02:28:16,440
Speaker 3: bold uh position going forward as far as trying to

2553
02:28:16,560 --> 02:28:22,320
Speaker 3: control the mineral resources and not the mineral resources being exploited.

2554
02:28:22,959 --> 02:28:25,760
Speaker 3: But at the same time, you do have we we

2555
02:28:25,920 --> 02:28:29,800
Speaker 3: have to understand that there's a war going on across

2556
02:28:29,920 --> 02:28:34,160
Speaker 3: the globe UH. In some areas it's intensified and some

2557
02:28:34,440 --> 02:28:38,720
Speaker 3: it's low, low intensity warfare. And when I say low

2558
02:28:38,840 --> 02:28:43,320
Speaker 3: intensity warfare, I'm saying the ongoing UH propaganda to keep

2559
02:28:43,440 --> 02:28:47,680
Speaker 3: us from understanding who we are and UH to keep

2560
02:28:47,760 --> 02:28:52,840
Speaker 3: us at a level not to be aware of international

2561
02:28:52,920 --> 02:28:55,520
Speaker 3: issues and even national issues. And what I mean by

2562
02:28:55,600 --> 02:28:58,920
Speaker 3: that if you look at the propagation of the kind

2563
02:28:59,000 --> 02:29:03,119
Speaker 3: of music that so negative in our communities, that's part

2564
02:29:03,280 --> 02:29:07,960
Speaker 3: of a psychological warfare that's been ways to keep our

2565
02:29:08,120 --> 02:29:11,120
Speaker 3: young people from saying that we have to have a

2566
02:29:11,400 --> 02:29:16,400
Speaker 3: vision of global unity for the race. And as I

2567
02:29:16,680 --> 02:29:20,400
Speaker 3: said on your other side of the first part of

2568
02:29:20,480 --> 02:29:23,160
Speaker 3: the interview, that we have to have a vision that

2569
02:29:23,320 --> 02:29:26,920
Speaker 3: we have a United States of accent. My humble opinion

2570
02:29:27,480 --> 02:29:31,840
Speaker 3: under the principles of African communalism, which some people might

2571
02:29:31,920 --> 02:29:36,080
Speaker 3: say socialism where everybody's treated equally and we don't have

2572
02:29:36,240 --> 02:29:41,040
Speaker 3: a real class divide among the race, that that has

2573
02:29:41,120 --> 02:29:43,720
Speaker 3: to be the vision for us as a people and

2574
02:29:43,879 --> 02:29:48,080
Speaker 3: for those who are conscious. We have to intensify our

2575
02:29:48,200 --> 02:29:53,440
Speaker 3: work to awaken people. And when I say awaken people,

2576
02:29:53,520 --> 02:29:57,320
Speaker 3: awaken them to the fact that we have to organize

2577
02:29:58,080 --> 02:30:02,000
Speaker 3: and organize and as his brother Quimi Terrae used to

2578
02:30:02,120 --> 02:30:05,320
Speaker 3: always say, so that's the struggle that we got going on.

2579
02:30:06,160 --> 02:30:10,120
Speaker 3: And we have to also Uh another part to me

2580
02:30:10,320 --> 02:30:13,560
Speaker 3: coming on your program, the sister that was before me.

2581
02:30:14,200 --> 02:30:17,680
Speaker 3: I really appreciated her spirit. But we also have to

2582
02:30:17,840 --> 02:30:22,320
Speaker 3: understand historically, as we tried to rise in this country,

2583
02:30:22,360 --> 02:30:26,400
Speaker 3: there's always been a counter movement to keep us from rising.

2584
02:30:26,480 --> 02:30:29,840
Speaker 3: And we can never forget our history. As you know,

2585
02:30:30,080 --> 02:30:34,440
Speaker 3: marcut Gardy had the largest movement of black folks in

2586
02:30:34,520 --> 02:30:38,920
Speaker 3: an organized manner ever, but it was a systematic attack

2587
02:30:39,040 --> 02:30:44,440
Speaker 3: upon his organization and Universal Negro Improvement Association in African

2588
02:30:44,520 --> 02:30:49,160
Speaker 3: Communities League, which led to him being incarcerated, which kind

2589
02:30:49,240 --> 02:30:54,280
Speaker 3: of cautian over membership of over four million and a

2590
02:30:54,400 --> 02:30:58,200
Speaker 3: newspaper that was printed in different languages and created a

2591
02:30:58,320 --> 02:31:05,640
Speaker 3: great business engine, a Negro Factory League. But that it

2592
02:31:05,800 --> 02:31:10,560
Speaker 3: was a movement led by Jagger Hoover that kind of

2593
02:31:10,959 --> 02:31:14,720
Speaker 3: distorted his movement. Even though we have remnants of this movement,

2594
02:31:14,760 --> 02:31:18,000
Speaker 3: and that's why I used the title President General in

2595
02:31:18,160 --> 02:31:18,760
Speaker 3: his spirit.

2596
02:31:19,520 --> 02:31:19,640
Speaker 1: Uh.

2597
02:31:20,360 --> 02:31:24,520
Speaker 3: Then you remember we had even WB the boys that

2598
02:31:24,680 --> 02:31:30,800
Speaker 3: came under attacked for his h splendid analysis of what

2599
02:31:31,040 --> 02:31:34,200
Speaker 3: was taking place here in this country. He was UH

2600
02:31:35,000 --> 02:31:39,400
Speaker 3: had to elode before UH the U States kindress one

2601
02:31:39,440 --> 02:31:43,039
Speaker 3: of their committees about being un American. Then you had

2602
02:31:43,120 --> 02:31:46,360
Speaker 3: the riots of the Black Panther Party, which Jagger Hoover

2603
02:31:47,000 --> 02:31:50,680
Speaker 3: UH declared as the most dangerous movement in America at

2604
02:31:50,680 --> 02:31:55,800
Speaker 3: that time, and they systematically assassinated and murdered so many

2605
02:31:55,879 --> 02:31:58,560
Speaker 3: of the Black Panthers as long as long with us

2606
02:31:59,080 --> 02:32:03,520
Speaker 3: killing to Martin Luther King Junior, UH and we're behind

2607
02:32:03,560 --> 02:32:08,080
Speaker 3: the assassination of Malcolm X. So anytime you have a rise,

2608
02:32:08,160 --> 02:32:12,600
Speaker 3: a strong, strong movement, but then the companies of this country,

2609
02:32:13,160 --> 02:32:17,680
Speaker 3: then there's a systematic effort by this government to distart

2610
02:32:17,760 --> 02:32:20,880
Speaker 3: that movement. And that's if not just combined to America

2611
02:32:21,320 --> 02:32:26,040
Speaker 3: when you look at what has taken place where with

2612
02:32:26,160 --> 02:32:29,400
Speaker 3: the killing of more and more Kadosi, who is pushing

2613
02:32:29,520 --> 02:32:36,640
Speaker 3: for a strong Africa with monetary systems that's not based

2614
02:32:36,720 --> 02:32:39,840
Speaker 3: on the United States dollars. When you look at what

2615
02:32:40,000 --> 02:32:44,359
Speaker 3: they are doing in Venezuela, just going in and attacking

2616
02:32:44,400 --> 02:32:52,760
Speaker 3: the sovereign nation and which had moved from a system

2617
02:32:53,200 --> 02:32:56,920
Speaker 3: where you just had a class struct a structure of

2618
02:32:57,320 --> 02:33:01,200
Speaker 3: rich people and the poor and elect and then you

2619
02:33:01,320 --> 02:33:03,720
Speaker 3: had the government that is trying to change that kind

2620
02:33:03,720 --> 02:33:06,400
Speaker 3: of condition, and then the United States going in and

2621
02:33:06,560 --> 02:33:09,720
Speaker 3: doing what they'd just recently done in terms of attacking

2622
02:33:10,200 --> 02:33:17,480
Speaker 3: Nicaragua and capturing their president who was officially elected by

2623
02:33:17,520 --> 02:33:20,840
Speaker 3: the people. And then you can see the Karens Stranglers

2624
02:33:21,520 --> 02:33:28,920
Speaker 3: strangely strangling of the economy of Cuba, where UH Trump

2625
02:33:29,640 --> 02:33:34,920
Speaker 3: has ordered the blockade of all coming to UH into

2626
02:33:35,120 --> 02:33:39,680
Speaker 3: the country of Cuba and calling Cuba a national threat

2627
02:33:39,800 --> 02:33:44,080
Speaker 3: to this government, which is absurd, but they used any

2628
02:33:44,800 --> 02:33:50,400
Speaker 3: uh excuse to justify their actions. So we have a country.

2629
02:33:50,720 --> 02:33:55,040
Speaker 3: We we in a real serious times for real and

2630
02:33:55,400 --> 02:34:00,480
Speaker 3: UH so we have to continue the resistance. And so

2631
02:34:00,640 --> 02:34:04,920
Speaker 3: I'm just glad that our organizations speaks truth to power

2632
02:34:04,959 --> 02:34:08,080
Speaker 3: as best we can. But we have to as a

2633
02:34:08,240 --> 02:34:11,880
Speaker 3: collective race, because we could be the determined factor for

2634
02:34:12,000 --> 02:34:15,199
Speaker 3: a world history for real, right here in this country

2635
02:34:15,680 --> 02:34:18,959
Speaker 3: if we as a people would just understand that our

2636
02:34:19,120 --> 02:34:23,400
Speaker 3: role is to speak truth to power, to organize for

2637
02:34:23,560 --> 02:34:26,760
Speaker 3: our sales to bring a better day, not just here

2638
02:34:26,800 --> 02:34:28,520
Speaker 3: in this country but throughout the world.

2639
02:34:29,280 --> 02:34:30,600
Speaker 1: All right, Hold up, all right, then we've got to

2640
02:34:30,640 --> 02:34:32,320
Speaker 1: step aside for a few moments when we come back. Though,

2641
02:34:32,440 --> 02:34:34,440
Speaker 1: question that one of our listeners posed this all the

2642
02:34:34,520 --> 02:34:36,840
Speaker 1: while all the time to our guess is why did

2643
02:34:36,879 --> 02:34:38,800
Speaker 1: they hate us so much? We will be done to them?

2644
02:34:38,840 --> 02:34:41,600
Speaker 1: Why do they hate us? You know they always thinking

2645
02:34:41,640 --> 02:34:44,800
Speaker 1: it out on us, the Asians Latinos. They seem to

2646
02:34:44,840 --> 02:34:46,840
Speaker 1: give them a pass when it comes to us. They

2647
02:34:46,920 --> 02:34:48,760
Speaker 1: are real hard on us. I'll let you respond that

2648
02:34:48,800 --> 02:34:50,720
Speaker 1: when we get back. Family, you two can get it

2649
02:34:50,800 --> 02:34:53,360
Speaker 1: on this discussion with our guests. The brother Zaqui Bruty

2650
02:34:53,400 --> 02:34:56,800
Speaker 1: from the Universal African People's Organization based in Saint Louis.

2651
02:34:57,000 --> 02:34:58,760
Speaker 1: You know how to reach us eight hundred and four

2652
02:34:58,840 --> 02:35:01,720
Speaker 1: or five zero seven, eight seventy six and we'll take

2653
02:35:01,720 --> 02:35:05,080
Speaker 1: your phone calls next and grand Rising family, thanks for

2654
02:35:05,120 --> 02:35:07,040
Speaker 1: staying with us on this Tuesday morning. In fact, you

2655
02:35:07,200 --> 02:35:09,240
Speaker 1: for making us part of your morning. Richeal I guess

2656
02:35:09,320 --> 02:35:12,680
Speaker 1: right now his brother Zaqui Brudi, he's the President general

2657
02:35:12,760 --> 02:35:15,440
Speaker 1: of the Universal of African People's Organizations based based in

2658
02:35:15,520 --> 02:35:18,360
Speaker 1: Saint Louis. And brother Zaqui, the question I post you

2659
02:35:18,440 --> 02:35:20,360
Speaker 1: is a question one of our callers, and I think

2660
02:35:20,480 --> 02:35:23,960
Speaker 1: is from Waldorf. I think he's the brother who always

2661
02:35:24,000 --> 02:35:26,440
Speaker 1: talks about Brother Carlos, and his question is why do

2662
02:35:26,520 --> 02:35:29,880
Speaker 1: they hate us so much? He thinks that the administration

2663
02:35:29,959 --> 02:35:33,320
Speaker 1: on white people hate us. Is he correcting in that assumption.

2664
02:35:35,280 --> 02:35:38,360
Speaker 3: Obviously by their actions and treatment to us, they do

2665
02:35:38,560 --> 02:35:43,680
Speaker 3: have a patriot And why that is I can only speculate.

2666
02:35:44,480 --> 02:35:47,400
Speaker 3: One of the reasons might be that they fear the

2667
02:35:47,600 --> 02:35:51,080
Speaker 3: rides of us, that we would surpass them house state.

2668
02:35:51,240 --> 02:35:56,600
Speaker 3: Since they have enslaved, they just feel that there are

2669
02:35:56,760 --> 02:36:01,120
Speaker 3: a superior race and they have that embranded them and

2670
02:36:01,320 --> 02:36:04,840
Speaker 3: they feared the riots of the black man and black woman,

2671
02:36:05,520 --> 02:36:09,640
Speaker 3: and so they just did not want us to have

2672
02:36:09,879 --> 02:36:13,520
Speaker 3: any kind of advancements because even under the worst of

2673
02:36:13,720 --> 02:36:19,600
Speaker 3: circumstances that our people have made great chievements within this country,

2674
02:36:20,320 --> 02:36:23,720
Speaker 3: under the worst of being enslaved, then going through the

2675
02:36:23,840 --> 02:36:27,960
Speaker 3: period of them cole Ism, the lynching periods, yet we

2676
02:36:28,160 --> 02:36:33,240
Speaker 3: still riot. And so they just have their fear that

2677
02:36:33,440 --> 02:36:36,560
Speaker 3: they at some point in time will lose their power

2678
02:36:36,680 --> 02:36:40,000
Speaker 3: and grip over us. So they have to constantly keep

2679
02:36:40,120 --> 02:36:44,119
Speaker 3: us as as they can suppress. But by the Gods,

2680
02:36:44,240 --> 02:36:47,800
Speaker 3: we will at some point in time that will that

2681
02:36:48,000 --> 02:36:54,000
Speaker 3: situation will be transformed. And as a people, as Marcus

2682
02:36:54,080 --> 02:37:00,120
Speaker 3: Goldy said, accomplish what you will, you know, and that

2683
02:37:00,200 --> 02:37:02,680
Speaker 3: we we are, at some point in time in the

2684
02:37:03,520 --> 02:37:08,280
Speaker 3: period of history, be the great people that we were

2685
02:37:08,480 --> 02:37:12,960
Speaker 3: at one time, at one time in world history.

2686
02:37:14,400 --> 02:37:17,080
Speaker 1: All right, twenty three after the tough el, go to Baltimore.

2687
02:37:17,160 --> 02:37:19,640
Speaker 1: Money Mike's wedding for us. He's online two grand rising

2688
02:37:19,720 --> 02:37:22,000
Speaker 1: money Mike, your only brother, Zacky Brudy.

2689
02:37:23,920 --> 02:37:24,120
Speaker 3: Carl.

2690
02:37:24,200 --> 02:37:25,320
Speaker 8: Good morning, doctor Blundi.

2691
02:37:25,360 --> 02:37:27,520
Speaker 3: How you doing doing well, sir?

2692
02:37:27,640 --> 02:37:31,320
Speaker 8: How you doing I'm doing great. I'm doing great in America.

2693
02:37:31,400 --> 02:37:33,920
Speaker 8: But look, doctor Blundi, I want to explain a little

2694
02:37:33,959 --> 02:37:36,560
Speaker 8: bit my theory of why or some of us feel

2695
02:37:36,600 --> 02:37:40,920
Speaker 8: as though they hate us. See, if black people weren't

2696
02:37:41,000 --> 02:37:44,720
Speaker 8: kept at the bottom, the bottom of white people. I'm

2697
02:37:44,760 --> 02:37:49,680
Speaker 8: talking about the miseducated, the impoverish, the poor, they would

2698
02:37:49,760 --> 02:37:52,920
Speaker 8: understand that that their condition is just as bad as us,

2699
02:37:53,520 --> 02:37:56,480
Speaker 8: and that the wealthy, i mean, the uber wealthy in

2700
02:37:56,600 --> 02:38:00,640
Speaker 8: this country are stealing all the wealth, all the creation,

2701
02:38:00,879 --> 02:38:03,920
Speaker 8: all of the jobs. As long as as you're doing

2702
02:38:04,040 --> 02:38:07,039
Speaker 8: better than a black man, then quote unquote a nigger

2703
02:38:08,160 --> 02:38:11,119
Speaker 8: life ain't so bad in America for you, as long

2704
02:38:11,200 --> 02:38:15,119
Speaker 8: as that's why the television shows you are blacks being down.

2705
02:38:15,200 --> 02:38:18,240
Speaker 8: That's why they allows a few of us to rise

2706
02:38:18,360 --> 02:38:22,240
Speaker 8: through entertainment, through sports, come through business. But if they

2707
02:38:22,440 --> 02:38:26,360
Speaker 8: understood that their condition is worse than ours, they would

2708
02:38:26,440 --> 02:38:28,960
Speaker 8: rise up and overthrow this government themselves. It would be

2709
02:38:29,040 --> 02:38:32,960
Speaker 8: anarchy in the streets. They don't hate us, they really don't.

2710
02:38:33,560 --> 02:38:36,560
Speaker 8: They just steel as though somebody the system has to

2711
02:38:36,680 --> 02:38:39,640
Speaker 8: keep somebody at the bottom so that the others who

2712
02:38:39,680 --> 02:38:43,560
Speaker 8: are at the bottom won't feel disenfranchised. That's my view, doctor,

2713
02:38:43,600 --> 02:38:45,720
Speaker 8: How do you feel, well.

2714
02:38:45,560 --> 02:38:48,640
Speaker 3: You know what. I appreciate that, and you're right on

2715
02:38:49,000 --> 02:38:55,640
Speaker 3: the real side because issues made mention, many white folks

2716
02:38:55,879 --> 02:39:01,080
Speaker 3: are just as in our condition as you know, struggling

2717
02:39:01,160 --> 02:39:04,880
Speaker 3: here in this society, and you have the super rich

2718
02:39:05,000 --> 02:39:08,800
Speaker 3: that's exploiting everybody. And that's why, you know, when you

2719
02:39:08,879 --> 02:39:12,760
Speaker 3: look historically in Russia when they had to Russian Revolution,

2720
02:39:12,920 --> 02:39:16,080
Speaker 3: which is populated by purely white people, it was the

2721
02:39:16,280 --> 02:39:21,200
Speaker 3: overthrow of a system where you had the rich were overthrown.

2722
02:39:21,360 --> 02:39:24,120
Speaker 3: And then the United States government, if you study that,

2723
02:39:25,360 --> 02:39:29,520
Speaker 3: constantly attacked Russia and tried to revert it back to

2724
02:39:29,720 --> 02:39:36,600
Speaker 3: the system of capitalism. You know, and under capitalism you

2725
02:39:36,720 --> 02:39:41,920
Speaker 3: have a class structure. So yes, you're right on time there,

2726
02:39:42,040 --> 02:39:46,760
Speaker 3: but and it's unfortunate that and because of propaganda. Remember,

2727
02:39:46,760 --> 02:39:49,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember me saying about the

2728
02:39:49,720 --> 02:39:54,119
Speaker 3: psychological warfare that's taking place, and it's had several levels.

2729
02:39:54,240 --> 02:39:58,320
Speaker 3: One keeping us at a psychological level that we do

2730
02:39:58,480 --> 02:40:01,800
Speaker 3: not know the greatness within our sales, and keeping the

2731
02:40:01,959 --> 02:40:06,440
Speaker 3: poor white folks at a psychological level of hating us

2732
02:40:07,040 --> 02:40:11,200
Speaker 3: or disliking us because they thinking that we are surpassing there.

2733
02:40:11,360 --> 02:40:14,640
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the lower class white folks. So it's

2734
02:40:15,080 --> 02:40:18,960
Speaker 3: a it's for me, it's a two folks. It's class

2735
02:40:19,080 --> 02:40:22,520
Speaker 3: as well as race. But I agree with most of you,

2736
02:40:23,200 --> 02:40:24,400
Speaker 3: your principle.

2737
02:40:25,200 --> 02:40:28,119
Speaker 8: Doctor Burundi, if I could just interject one second, if

2738
02:40:28,160 --> 02:40:31,840
Speaker 8: we understand America coming out of a great depression of

2739
02:40:32,040 --> 02:40:36,959
Speaker 8: nineteen twenty nine, there was anarchy in this country because everybody,

2740
02:40:37,480 --> 02:40:41,720
Speaker 8: everybody was poor, and the poor, the poor whites, they

2741
02:40:41,840 --> 02:40:45,279
Speaker 8: were voted. They went against this government and FDR decided,

2742
02:40:45,360 --> 02:40:48,400
Speaker 8: he said, look, there has to be some social safety

2743
02:40:48,480 --> 02:40:50,560
Speaker 8: net in this country or I'm gonna let them come

2744
02:40:50,600 --> 02:40:52,879
Speaker 8: and tear down your mansions. I'm gonna let them come

2745
02:40:52,920 --> 02:40:55,600
Speaker 8: and tear down your factories. So in order to qull it.

2746
02:40:56,000 --> 02:40:58,320
Speaker 8: He had them come up with these social programs. And

2747
02:40:58,879 --> 02:41:01,520
Speaker 8: so if we understand his three and we understand money,

2748
02:41:02,200 --> 02:41:04,440
Speaker 8: we will understand all of the ills and all of

2749
02:41:04,480 --> 02:41:07,280
Speaker 8: the isms of this country. Thank you, doctor Murrundy.

2750
02:41:07,879 --> 02:41:12,720
Speaker 1: All right, right, I appreciate that, But let me join

2751
02:41:12,800 --> 02:41:15,080
Speaker 1: him here twenty six after the top of that. Thanks money, Mike.

2752
02:41:15,440 --> 02:41:15,560
Speaker 3: Uh.

2753
02:41:16,120 --> 02:41:19,320
Speaker 1: Doctor Claude Andsen says, it's going to be this I

2754
02:41:19,520 --> 02:41:21,200
Speaker 1: call it a race. It's got to be a winner

2755
02:41:21,200 --> 02:41:23,320
Speaker 1: and they've got to be a loser. They want us

2756
02:41:23,400 --> 02:41:26,320
Speaker 1: to be another analogy he uses. They want to be

2757
02:41:26,400 --> 02:41:29,200
Speaker 1: the Harlem globe trotters and we're the Washington generals. They

2758
02:41:29,280 --> 02:41:31,360
Speaker 1: want to win all the time, and they want us

2759
02:41:31,360 --> 02:41:34,560
Speaker 1: to be coming second. So they have created us to

2760
02:41:34,640 --> 02:41:37,200
Speaker 1: be at the bottom of the socio economic ladder. But

2761
02:41:37,320 --> 02:41:40,360
Speaker 1: if we believe what doctor Anderson's telling us, why aus

2762
02:41:40,879 --> 02:41:43,320
Speaker 1: ask the question why not Hispanic's out number us? Now

2763
02:41:43,640 --> 02:41:45,520
Speaker 1: there's a time that we out number them. Right now

2764
02:41:46,040 --> 02:41:48,480
Speaker 1: you're talking about building coalitiones. They don't need us because

2765
02:41:48,920 --> 02:41:51,640
Speaker 1: they being for a group by themselves. We need to

2766
02:41:52,040 --> 02:41:54,680
Speaker 1: figure out how what you know, situation we're going to

2767
02:41:54,760 --> 02:41:56,600
Speaker 1: move Do we join with them, or to think they're

2768
02:41:56,600 --> 02:41:58,320
Speaker 1: going to allow to join with them, because many of

2769
02:41:58,360 --> 02:42:00,520
Speaker 1: them are much better off than we are. You mentioned,

2770
02:42:00,680 --> 02:42:02,720
Speaker 1: you know, they have their they've got their own a

2771
02:42:02,879 --> 02:42:05,600
Speaker 1: bunch of gas stations, they got Telsion networks, they got

2772
02:42:05,879 --> 02:42:07,560
Speaker 1: banks and that you know, we were on a few,

2773
02:42:07,600 --> 02:42:10,320
Speaker 1: but we're not to the scale that they do. So

2774
02:42:10,480 --> 02:42:14,960
Speaker 1: why us again, uh doctor uh uh Zaki brit almost

2775
02:42:15,000 --> 02:42:18,360
Speaker 1: call it Dr Anderson? Why us? And and and do

2776
02:42:18,440 --> 02:42:20,600
Speaker 1: you believe what Dr Anderson said that this this was

2777
02:42:20,800 --> 02:42:22,760
Speaker 1: this is all part of a plan, a master plan

2778
02:42:22,840 --> 02:42:23,560
Speaker 1: to keep us down.

2779
02:42:24,280 --> 02:42:24,879
Speaker 4: Well, first of.

2780
02:42:24,879 --> 02:42:28,400
Speaker 3: All, it's a part uh uh speaker made mentioned we

2781
02:42:28,480 --> 02:42:33,480
Speaker 3: got to understand that we, uh, we're under system called capitalism.

2782
02:42:34,120 --> 02:42:38,080
Speaker 3: And in capitalism, you have a ruling class of people

2783
02:42:38,160 --> 02:42:42,600
Speaker 3: that are super super rich. Now that Hispanics have rose

2784
02:42:42,840 --> 02:42:48,720
Speaker 3: within this society economically, but still they're not fully accepted

2785
02:42:48,920 --> 02:42:55,040
Speaker 3: at the highest level except for those super rich Hispanic people. Uh,

2786
02:42:55,240 --> 02:42:58,520
Speaker 3: and they're still exploded. You took me back to the

2787
02:42:58,640 --> 02:43:03,959
Speaker 3: days of the black panther part that had great relationships

2788
02:43:04,120 --> 02:43:08,280
Speaker 3: with progressive Hispanics. In fact, they had I believe called

2789
02:43:08,320 --> 02:43:12,800
Speaker 3: the Young Lords or the Black Young Lords. So bottom line,

2790
02:43:12,959 --> 02:43:18,120
Speaker 3: is a class struggle, and uh as well as the

2791
02:43:18,280 --> 02:43:21,000
Speaker 3: society is kind of you took me back to the

2792
02:43:21,320 --> 02:43:25,840
Speaker 3: cast the ast system of India, you know, where you

2793
02:43:25,959 --> 02:43:31,680
Speaker 3: had certain levels of folks that were classified in different

2794
02:43:32,000 --> 02:43:35,640
Speaker 3: levels of society and the lords of them were many

2795
02:43:35,720 --> 02:43:39,879
Speaker 3: people who are of dark complexion's. And I said, it's

2796
02:43:40,000 --> 02:43:43,320
Speaker 3: not only a class struggle, it's race also involved in

2797
02:43:43,400 --> 02:43:48,200
Speaker 3: this country. And so it's just part of the hatred

2798
02:43:48,280 --> 02:43:51,760
Speaker 3: of black folks too that keeps us in the situation

2799
02:43:51,920 --> 02:43:54,960
Speaker 3: that we're in. But we can't focus on what they do.

2800
02:43:55,160 --> 02:43:57,840
Speaker 3: We got a as a racist people focused on what

2801
02:43:58,080 --> 02:44:03,119
Speaker 3: we shall and must do to overcome or it's impacting

2802
02:44:03,240 --> 02:44:07,959
Speaker 3: us in such a negative way, especially for our future generations.

2803
02:44:08,520 --> 02:44:11,480
Speaker 3: So to me, there's only one thing that should be

2804
02:44:11,600 --> 02:44:15,680
Speaker 3: on the minds of everybody of color here in this country,

2805
02:44:16,280 --> 02:44:20,680
Speaker 3: especially your listeners, because your listeners by just listening to you,

2806
02:44:20,920 --> 02:44:25,640
Speaker 3: obviously they have a level of consciousness. So first of all,

2807
02:44:26,000 --> 02:44:31,359
Speaker 3: everybody of our race needs to belong to some organizations

2808
02:44:31,879 --> 02:44:34,600
Speaker 3: that has a track record of speaking truth to power

2809
02:44:35,080 --> 02:44:40,000
Speaker 3: and working to uplift our people. And as many organizations

2810
02:44:40,080 --> 02:44:44,840
Speaker 3: that's out there, and as an organization, we are saying

2811
02:44:45,000 --> 02:44:49,840
Speaker 3: that we got to empower those organizations that is about

2812
02:44:49,959 --> 02:44:54,480
Speaker 3: that business, and it's a and I'm talking about. We

2813
02:44:54,560 --> 02:45:01,840
Speaker 3: got to create armies of organizations that are strong as

2814
02:45:01,879 --> 02:45:05,160
Speaker 3: I just mentioned, and strong enough to speak truth to

2815
02:45:05,280 --> 02:45:09,800
Speaker 3: power and implement programs that work to uplift our people.

2816
02:45:10,400 --> 02:45:14,800
Speaker 3: So we say, join the Universal African People's Organization or

2817
02:45:14,920 --> 02:45:18,240
Speaker 3: wherever local organization and your community. But if you don't

2818
02:45:18,280 --> 02:45:22,640
Speaker 3: belong to an organization and you uh, then you're doing

2819
02:45:22,800 --> 02:45:27,760
Speaker 3: a disservice to our community and every organization. Also, I

2820
02:45:27,959 --> 02:45:33,240
Speaker 3: loved the commercial that Kathy Hughes does when she advocates

2821
02:45:33,280 --> 02:45:37,200
Speaker 3: that everybody should do good every day. There should be

2822
02:45:37,360 --> 02:45:41,360
Speaker 3: some effort to do good, to help some people in

2823
02:45:41,480 --> 02:45:45,160
Speaker 3: our community, to uplift somebody. So when we begin to

2824
02:45:45,280 --> 02:45:49,879
Speaker 3: have those attitudes, we can bring about change in this country.

2825
02:45:50,520 --> 02:45:58,599
Speaker 3: And we can use the forces of of economic campaigns

2826
02:45:59,120 --> 02:46:02,880
Speaker 3: to now support to grow to black businesses, but to

2827
02:46:03,000 --> 02:46:08,120
Speaker 3: withdraw our dollars from businesses that disrespect us. You know,

2828
02:46:08,480 --> 02:46:14,240
Speaker 3: there's a systematic attack upon quote unquote DEEI and I

2829
02:46:14,360 --> 02:46:17,440
Speaker 3: try to practice what I preach. So there are several

2830
02:46:17,600 --> 02:46:19,120
Speaker 3: companies that I.

2831
02:46:19,280 --> 02:46:22,720
Speaker 19: Just did not since they said that they put an

2832
02:46:22,840 --> 02:46:23,160
Speaker 19: end to.

2833
02:46:23,240 --> 02:46:27,720
Speaker 3: The DEI I refuse to go and support them, say,

2834
02:46:27,800 --> 02:46:34,840
Speaker 3: for instance, Target Waldmark. You know, we got to practice

2835
02:46:34,879 --> 02:46:37,760
Speaker 3: what we preach and if just imagine, if we use

2836
02:46:37,879 --> 02:46:42,400
Speaker 3: our economic power, we can bring you a closure to

2837
02:46:42,680 --> 02:46:47,480
Speaker 3: many of these companies that then would have to reapproach

2838
02:46:47,959 --> 02:46:51,080
Speaker 3: their approach to us.

2839
02:46:51,760 --> 02:46:54,520
Speaker 1: So well, William, was you being asking this though, you

2840
02:46:54,600 --> 02:46:56,960
Speaker 1: know brother Zaki in twenty eight minutes away from the

2841
02:46:57,000 --> 02:46:58,640
Speaker 1: top of the eye. You know, Jamal and Brian did

2842
02:46:58,680 --> 02:47:01,199
Speaker 1: the thing with Target and then you know for people

2843
02:47:01,240 --> 02:47:05,840
Speaker 1: who are energizing and then it's over. I think the

2844
02:47:06,000 --> 02:47:08,040
Speaker 1: plan we need to have a better plan is you

2845
02:47:08,280 --> 02:47:10,480
Speaker 1: you boycott something for a couple of weeks and then

2846
02:47:10,520 --> 02:47:12,360
Speaker 1: you go back and all that money you were saving,

2847
02:47:12,440 --> 02:47:14,080
Speaker 1: you go back and give it back to the oppressor.

2848
02:47:15,080 --> 02:47:17,960
Speaker 1: Do we need to have more detailed plan. It's just

2849
02:47:18,080 --> 02:47:19,720
Speaker 1: you know, we show it, saw that it worked for

2850
02:47:19,760 --> 02:47:22,880
Speaker 1: a while. It could hurt them over the business sector,

2851
02:47:22,959 --> 02:47:25,960
Speaker 1: over the of uh you know, Black Friday going on,

2852
02:47:26,320 --> 02:47:28,280
Speaker 1: but then people went back and spend their money with them.

2853
02:47:28,520 --> 02:47:30,480
Speaker 1: So they need to have an alternative. If you're not

2854
02:47:30,560 --> 02:47:34,240
Speaker 1: gonna spend money with this particular organization that doesn't like us,

2855
02:47:34,560 --> 02:47:36,800
Speaker 1: give us an organization that we can spend our money with.

2856
02:47:36,920 --> 02:47:39,120
Speaker 1: I think that was missing from his plan. What say you?

2857
02:47:40,480 --> 02:47:44,080
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I'm under an impression that the

2858
02:47:44,200 --> 02:47:47,120
Speaker 3: bar Tide is still going on. That was called by

2859
02:47:48,640 --> 02:47:54,040
Speaker 3: the minister out of what was Atlanta. Uh Are you

2860
02:47:54,560 --> 02:47:57,320
Speaker 3: saying to me that's has been officially ended?

2861
02:47:58,000 --> 02:47:59,959
Speaker 1: No, it has not, but we haven't heard it. That's

2862
02:48:00,160 --> 02:48:03,080
Speaker 1: that's the thing. There's no there's no talk about it.

2863
02:48:03,280 --> 02:48:03,440
Speaker 3: Is it?

2864
02:48:03,560 --> 02:48:04,000
Speaker 14: And it is?

2865
02:48:04,320 --> 02:48:07,640
Speaker 1: Is it finished? You started? And and if people don't

2866
02:48:07,680 --> 02:48:10,080
Speaker 1: hear that it's over, they're going back and and and

2867
02:48:10,440 --> 02:48:13,080
Speaker 1: give the money that they didn't spend uh a couple

2868
02:48:13,120 --> 02:48:14,720
Speaker 1: of months ago. They're gonna throw all back again to

2869
02:48:14,920 --> 02:48:17,080
Speaker 1: to a to a person that doesn't like you. So

2870
02:48:17,600 --> 02:48:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm what I'm saying is that the plan needs to

2871
02:48:19,720 --> 02:48:22,920
Speaker 1: be you know, finesse more the people know, give us

2872
02:48:22,920 --> 02:48:25,520
Speaker 1: an alternative. I just tell us, don't buy go to

2873
02:48:25,920 --> 02:48:30,160
Speaker 1: Target or Walmart whatever, here's the way you should shop right.

2874
02:48:30,400 --> 02:48:34,439
Speaker 3: And the alternative was to be supporting black owned businesses

2875
02:48:35,040 --> 02:48:38,840
Speaker 3: as well as in terms of UH. For me day,

2876
02:48:39,720 --> 02:48:44,240
Speaker 3: I was under the impression, Uh, Jamal Brant, that's uh,

2877
02:48:45,120 --> 02:48:49,520
Speaker 3: Reverend Jamal Bryant, uh as an alternative, even though it's

2878
02:48:50,040 --> 02:48:52,920
Speaker 3: if you had to shop at one of the large retailers,

2879
02:48:53,640 --> 02:48:58,160
Speaker 3: was to support one that refused to end its DEI program,

2880
02:48:58,280 --> 02:49:01,160
Speaker 3: and that was Costco. Not that pushing to school, but

2881
02:49:01,160 --> 02:49:04,360
Speaker 3: I'm just saying in my mind that was turned to

2882
02:49:04,520 --> 02:49:07,959
Speaker 3: that was projected and we're at the start of target

2883
02:49:08,360 --> 02:49:13,560
Speaker 3: the barktile of target which uh uh target was had

2884
02:49:13,720 --> 02:49:19,120
Speaker 3: some tremendous economic loss. Uh but uh and uh, as

2885
02:49:19,200 --> 02:49:21,800
Speaker 3: I may mention, I was an impression that was still

2886
02:49:21,920 --> 02:49:26,360
Speaker 3: going on. Uh so, and we have to be for

2887
02:49:26,560 --> 02:49:30,520
Speaker 3: the loan haul just like the bus Barcott and uh

2888
02:49:31,440 --> 02:49:34,000
Speaker 3: that Doctor Kingdom had called back in the day that

2889
02:49:34,200 --> 02:49:38,680
Speaker 3: lasted over a year or so. So so I guess

2890
02:49:38,879 --> 02:49:41,760
Speaker 3: uh our duty then will be and I'm making a

2891
02:49:41,800 --> 02:49:45,280
Speaker 3: commitment publicly to use that. I'm gonna reach out to

2892
02:49:46,160 --> 02:49:49,040
Speaker 3: Whereverend Brian the best way I can to get an

2893
02:49:49,280 --> 02:49:52,320
Speaker 3: update in terms of that, uh where we at with

2894
02:49:52,480 --> 02:49:55,560
Speaker 3: the target barcot. But those are the kinds of things

2895
02:49:55,640 --> 02:49:58,600
Speaker 3: that in principle that we need to be doing as

2896
02:49:58,640 --> 02:50:01,440
Speaker 3: a fight back. And as you say, then have a

2897
02:50:02,400 --> 02:50:05,560
Speaker 3: well it's an alternative, and in my mind, again the

2898
02:50:05,760 --> 02:50:09,480
Speaker 3: turnative would be supporting black owned businesses.

2899
02:50:09,920 --> 02:50:11,840
Speaker 1: Got you twenty five away from the top of the other.

2900
02:50:11,920 --> 02:50:14,360
Speaker 1: Freedom Bridge is checking in from Pittsburgh's had a question

2901
02:50:14,480 --> 02:50:17,560
Speaker 1: for yours online two grand Rising, freedom Bridge a question

2902
02:50:17,640 --> 02:50:20,920
Speaker 1: of your comment for brother z Key grand Riting.

2903
02:50:21,080 --> 02:50:23,960
Speaker 18: First of all, comment when money Mike speaks, I want

2904
02:50:24,080 --> 02:50:26,840
Speaker 18: him to think about the fact that there is a difference.

2905
02:50:27,320 --> 02:50:30,240
Speaker 18: They are poor, but they got that thing called white privilege.

2906
02:50:31,000 --> 02:50:34,080
Speaker 18: They're going to see them before they see you. Now

2907
02:50:34,160 --> 02:50:36,240
Speaker 18: do they use us? They wouldn't be where they are

2908
02:50:36,280 --> 02:50:38,720
Speaker 18: if it wasn't for us. A lot of blacks let's

2909
02:50:38,720 --> 02:50:42,640
Speaker 18: space or in alliance just to keep themselves alive or

2910
02:50:42,720 --> 02:50:46,960
Speaker 18: whatever reason for their own I guess, personal gain. But

2911
02:50:47,240 --> 02:50:49,320
Speaker 18: I just wanted to say that because the fact that

2912
02:50:49,680 --> 02:50:51,760
Speaker 18: when we did have our own and they told us

2913
02:50:51,800 --> 02:50:54,400
Speaker 18: to leave Tulsa and all the other places we had,

2914
02:50:54,680 --> 02:50:57,600
Speaker 18: they blew them up because they've seen how advanced we

2915
02:50:57,720 --> 02:51:00,520
Speaker 18: were when we tried to do what they asked as

2916
02:51:00,560 --> 02:51:04,120
Speaker 18: to do, they destroyed it. So you can't trust them.

2917
02:51:04,280 --> 02:51:07,480
Speaker 18: And two, we have our own and do our own thing,

2918
02:51:07,840 --> 02:51:10,000
Speaker 18: and they let us free, which they're afraid to do

2919
02:51:10,400 --> 02:51:14,160
Speaker 18: because of what you said that we might over run

2920
02:51:14,320 --> 02:51:17,920
Speaker 18: them or whatever you think. But just saying getting back

2921
02:51:17,959 --> 02:51:18,480
Speaker 18: in late night.

2922
02:51:18,959 --> 02:51:19,600
Speaker 9: No, it was.

2923
02:51:20,240 --> 02:51:23,640
Speaker 18: They might be poor, but they like Dolly Parton, they

2924
02:51:23,720 --> 02:51:26,000
Speaker 18: can come up and be a superstar. Now do they

2925
02:51:26,160 --> 02:51:29,080
Speaker 18: use some of us? Yes, stay do all the time.

2926
02:51:29,840 --> 02:51:30,959
Speaker 18: That's all I got to stay.

2927
02:51:31,760 --> 02:51:35,440
Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Freedom, Brother Zaki. You want to respond

2928
02:51:35,480 --> 02:51:37,119
Speaker 1: to anything, I'll tell you. I hold that response gouse.

2929
02:51:37,160 --> 02:51:38,560
Speaker 1: I look at the clock. We got to take a

2930
02:51:38,600 --> 02:51:41,200
Speaker 1: short break and I'll let you respond on the other side. Family,

2931
02:51:41,280 --> 02:51:44,320
Speaker 1: you two can join this conversation with Zaqi Buruti. All

2932
02:51:44,320 --> 02:51:46,120
Speaker 1: you gotta do is reach out to us. Our telephone

2933
02:51:46,200 --> 02:51:48,400
Speaker 1: number is real simple. It's eight hundred four or five

2934
02:51:48,560 --> 02:51:51,600
Speaker 1: zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone

2935
02:51:51,600 --> 02:51:54,520
Speaker 1: calls next and grind rising. Family, Thanks for sticking with

2936
02:51:54,640 --> 02:51:56,760
Speaker 1: us on this Tuesday morning, here with our guest, the

2937
02:51:56,840 --> 02:52:00,440
Speaker 1: brother Zachi Brutti from the Universal of African People's Organization

2938
02:52:00,640 --> 02:52:03,800
Speaker 1: based in Saint Louis. Brother Zaqui is the President general

2939
02:52:03,879 --> 02:52:05,480
Speaker 1: of the group. Before we go back to him, the

2940
02:52:05,560 --> 02:52:07,520
Speaker 1: let me just remind you coming up later this week,

2941
02:52:07,520 --> 02:52:10,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna hear from chematologists that Tony Browner also historian

2942
02:52:10,840 --> 02:52:13,720
Speaker 1: Michael m o Tip will be here Attorney Fire rose

2943
02:52:14,320 --> 02:52:17,120
Speaker 1: to ray from Alabamas and it will be joining us

2944
02:52:17,160 --> 02:52:19,560
Speaker 1: as well. And the Master Teacher himself and Brother astra

2945
02:52:19,720 --> 02:52:22,120
Speaker 1: Quasi also joined us. So if you are in Baltimore,

2946
02:52:22,280 --> 02:52:23,800
Speaker 1: make sure that you radio is locked in tight on

2947
02:52:23,920 --> 02:52:26,640
Speaker 1: ten ten w olb. Or if you're in the DMV

2948
02:52:26,760 --> 02:52:30,560
Speaker 1: the Washington metropolitan area, we're on fourteen fifty w ol

2949
02:52:30,840 --> 02:52:33,600
Speaker 1: Brother Zaki, you want to respond with a Brother Freedom

2950
02:52:33,879 --> 02:52:35,560
Speaker 1: from Pittsburgh Mension a minute ago.

2951
02:52:36,320 --> 02:52:40,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I appreciate his comment, you know, for both

2952
02:52:40,480 --> 02:52:47,000
Speaker 3: him and the other brother Money, the first caller, there

2953
02:52:47,040 --> 02:52:50,040
Speaker 3: are twosm both of their statements. First of all for

2954
02:52:50,320 --> 02:52:54,520
Speaker 3: his man for space. We're in a society that's based

2955
02:52:54,640 --> 02:52:58,800
Speaker 3: on the economic system of capitalism and imperialism, and in

2956
02:52:59,000 --> 02:53:04,040
Speaker 3: capitalism of a super rich class that use this propaganda

2957
02:53:04,160 --> 02:53:07,240
Speaker 3: machine to divide and conquer, and they divide and conquer

2958
02:53:07,520 --> 02:53:11,320
Speaker 3: on different levels. On a racial level, they have created

2959
02:53:11,360 --> 02:53:18,520
Speaker 3: a propaganda machine that misguide and poor white folks to

2960
02:53:19,160 --> 02:53:23,920
Speaker 3: Hayden black folks. Because if there was unity, Mom, poor

2961
02:53:24,040 --> 02:53:26,720
Speaker 3: white folks and poor white folks, that could be a

2962
02:53:26,920 --> 02:53:30,960
Speaker 3: quicker overthrow of this economic system. I do agree with

2963
02:53:31,080 --> 02:53:35,200
Speaker 3: the brother that white people in the lower class can

2964
02:53:36,400 --> 02:53:38,920
Speaker 3: rise to the top much quicker than us because of

2965
02:53:39,000 --> 02:53:41,920
Speaker 3: that skin color. Because as I mentioned, it's not only

2966
02:53:42,120 --> 02:53:46,240
Speaker 3: economic it's also racism that's part of the propaganda of

2967
02:53:46,400 --> 02:53:52,040
Speaker 3: this system. And then on the person side, working with

2968
02:53:52,160 --> 02:53:56,320
Speaker 3: white people. I ran for governor, as you know called,

2969
02:53:56,400 --> 02:53:59,160
Speaker 3: and I was in dark by Minister Lewis Fara Coon,

2970
02:53:59,320 --> 02:54:02,360
Speaker 3: But I traveled to many of the rural areas and

2971
02:54:02,480 --> 02:54:06,400
Speaker 3: many and I had was in darted by white farmers

2972
02:54:07,520 --> 02:54:10,480
Speaker 3: and I did not back up on me calling out

2973
02:54:10,560 --> 02:54:13,920
Speaker 3: this society for what it was because many of them

2974
02:54:14,000 --> 02:54:18,960
Speaker 3: were losing their farms farms at that time. So and

2975
02:54:19,120 --> 02:54:23,560
Speaker 3: I saw firsthand in terms of the poverty of poor

2976
02:54:23,640 --> 02:54:27,120
Speaker 3: white people who were really ready to unite with the

2977
02:54:28,200 --> 02:54:31,959
Speaker 3: platform that we were visiting at that time. But also

2978
02:54:32,000 --> 02:54:35,440
Speaker 3: I understand because I've received death threats from poor white

2979
02:54:35,480 --> 02:54:38,880
Speaker 3: folks or at night speaking up on the issues that

2980
02:54:39,320 --> 02:54:44,320
Speaker 3: are important to our community. So both are truism in

2981
02:54:44,520 --> 02:54:49,760
Speaker 3: terms of number one, it's a class struggle, but also

2982
02:54:50,120 --> 02:54:53,600
Speaker 3: as racism that's part of the struggle that we have

2983
02:54:53,760 --> 02:54:54,400
Speaker 3: to address.

2984
02:54:54,520 --> 02:54:59,720
Speaker 1: Also, all right, man, And going back to tonight's this

2985
02:55:00,080 --> 02:55:02,440
Speaker 1: the State of the Union address, Donald Trump's going to

2986
02:55:02,520 --> 02:55:05,320
Speaker 1: tell the American people that prices are down and we're

2987
02:55:05,360 --> 02:55:08,360
Speaker 1: doing well economically, but the people are not feeling it.

2988
02:55:09,600 --> 02:55:11,000
Speaker 1: If you could put you on this is probably a

2989
02:55:11,000 --> 02:55:14,400
Speaker 1: difficult proposition for you, brother Zaki. What would you think

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02:55:14,440 --> 02:55:16,960
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump would say that Eastern minds of the

2991
02:55:17,000 --> 02:55:20,120
Speaker 1: American people that you know, inflation is the way they

2992
02:55:20,160 --> 02:55:21,920
Speaker 1: were doing better on the Biden because that's what the

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02:55:22,120 --> 02:55:24,560
Speaker 1: Lady's polls say, and he will probably debunked the polls

2994
02:55:24,560 --> 02:55:26,200
Speaker 1: as well. What do you think he can see to

2995
02:55:26,280 --> 02:55:29,520
Speaker 1: assuage that the American people that everything is great because

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02:55:29,640 --> 02:55:29,920
Speaker 1: it's not.

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02:55:31,280 --> 02:55:35,240
Speaker 3: I will hope that he came and swayed him, came persuaded.

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02:55:35,720 --> 02:55:38,200
Speaker 3: I hope he can lose more in terms of in

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Speaker 3: the polls on that question of affordability. I can only

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02:55:43,400 --> 02:55:48,720
Speaker 3: speak for myself. It's a struggle economically here in the society,

3001
02:55:49,800 --> 02:55:52,680
Speaker 3: but of course for the super rich it is and

3002
02:55:53,240 --> 02:55:58,519
Speaker 3: they're line in their pocket looks therely with the exploitation

3003
02:55:58,760 --> 02:56:00,840
Speaker 3: of the people right here in this country as well

3004
02:56:00,879 --> 02:56:04,600
Speaker 3: as throughout the world. So as you know, he's the

3005
02:56:04,760 --> 02:56:08,039
Speaker 3: mass of lying. So wherever we be saying it would

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02:56:08,400 --> 02:56:10,680
Speaker 3: automatically it would be in my humble opinion.

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Speaker 1: I lie, you know, and I'm glad you went there,

3008
02:56:14,800 --> 02:56:17,520
Speaker 1: fortunate away from the topic because you know, Mark Branam says,

3009
02:56:17,879 --> 02:56:19,960
Speaker 1: it's not black and white, it's not a racial thing.

3010
02:56:20,160 --> 02:56:23,280
Speaker 1: It's rich against poor and it's now super rich against

3011
02:56:23,440 --> 02:56:26,959
Speaker 1: against the average person. Do you see that way as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I just said, you know, it's this

3013
02:56:31,080 --> 02:56:34,840
Speaker 3: system is a system. We got to be clear on it.

3014
02:56:35,040 --> 02:56:40,280
Speaker 3: This is an economic system called capitalism, and capitalism is

3015
02:56:40,400 --> 02:56:45,160
Speaker 3: based on passive motives, and that possit motives is uh

3016
02:56:45,680 --> 02:56:49,600
Speaker 3: supported by a super rich class of people who use

3017
02:56:50,720 --> 02:56:54,320
Speaker 3: the methods of divide and conquered, Divide and conquered the

3018
02:56:54,400 --> 02:56:58,160
Speaker 3: black race that keep a division among ourselves as well

3019
02:56:58,280 --> 02:57:02,720
Speaker 3: as the divide the race is poor white folks against

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Speaker 3: poor black folks.

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Speaker 19: And so that people do not see who are the real.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna call them devils for what they are, the

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02:57:12,440 --> 02:57:16,560
Speaker 3: super devils of the society, because as you exploit people,

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02:57:17,360 --> 02:57:20,360
Speaker 3: it's just like, let me just use the example with

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02:57:20,480 --> 02:57:23,959
Speaker 3: the United States sitting all its warships and many warships

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Speaker 3: to Iran, the kind of off the shore of Iran,

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Speaker 3: the millions and millions of dollars to make that happen.

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Speaker 3: And the millions and millions and billions and trillions of

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02:57:35,600 --> 02:57:41,560
Speaker 3: dollars for weaponry that this country spend on versus dollars

3030
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Speaker 3: for healthcare, real education, and etc. Speaks to the kind

3031
02:57:47,080 --> 02:57:50,920
Speaker 3: of economic system that we have. That's part they're trying

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02:57:51,000 --> 02:57:55,640
Speaker 3: to strangle Cuba, because Cuba, with the revolution led by

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Speaker 3: Fidel Castor, built a society based on on everybody being

3034
02:58:02,600 --> 02:58:06,640
Speaker 3: equal economically as best they could, and that's why they

3035
02:58:07,240 --> 02:58:11,680
Speaker 3: distorted the society of Libya. They do not want any

3036
02:58:12,160 --> 02:58:19,800
Speaker 3: society outside of the whole concept of capitalism to drive

3037
02:58:20,560 --> 02:58:25,199
Speaker 3: because it would encourage other countries to follow the leads

3038
02:58:25,440 --> 02:58:29,320
Speaker 3: of the countries that have achieved that. And that's why

3039
02:58:29,360 --> 02:58:33,440
Speaker 3: they went after Venezuela. And if you go back in history,

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Speaker 3: when they had a socialist leader in Chile, Lynday, the

3041
02:58:37,920 --> 02:58:42,640
Speaker 3: CIA plotted to kill him. I mentioned again Kadafi. When

3042
02:58:42,680 --> 02:58:45,720
Speaker 3: you look at what happened to Patrice Lamumba and the Congo,

3043
02:58:48,200 --> 02:58:50,760
Speaker 3: what happened to the people in Mozambique with the death

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Speaker 3: of Tomorrow Michelle. You can go on and on any time.

3045
02:58:54,920 --> 02:58:58,720
Speaker 3: There's countries that stand up to the United States and

3046
02:58:58,920 --> 02:59:04,480
Speaker 3: implement a different turn to society. This system systematically goes

3047
02:59:04,640 --> 02:59:08,920
Speaker 3: after them, and they go after organizations within this country

3048
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Speaker 3: that propagate that kind of philosophy. That's what the attack

3049
02:59:14,200 --> 02:59:16,920
Speaker 3: of the on the Uhura movement, when you go back

3050
02:59:17,000 --> 02:59:19,720
Speaker 3: to what attack on Malcolm X, the attack on the

3051
02:59:19,800 --> 02:59:25,040
Speaker 3: Black Panther Party, you just have historical precedents for how

3052
02:59:25,200 --> 02:59:29,480
Speaker 3: this country look at any alternative to the economic system

3053
02:59:30,080 --> 02:59:33,600
Speaker 3: that dominates right now, all right.

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Speaker 1: Ten away from the top. You mentioned the US attack

3055
02:59:36,440 --> 02:59:38,520
Speaker 1: in Iran and got a tweeter what our tutor says,

3056
02:59:38,840 --> 02:59:41,400
Speaker 1: and see if you agree with this tweet. The tweeter says,

3057
02:59:41,440 --> 02:59:44,160
Speaker 1: if the United States attack in Iran, Iran is going

3058
02:59:44,200 --> 02:59:46,840
Speaker 1: to destroy Israel and there's nothing that the US can

3059
02:59:46,920 --> 02:59:49,560
Speaker 1: do about it, It's another war that America will lose.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that that that will happen if they

3061
02:59:52,200 --> 02:59:54,320
Speaker 1: go after Iran? Do you think Iran's going to retaliate?

3062
02:59:54,360 --> 02:59:55,400
Speaker 1: But going after Israel?

3063
02:59:56,680 --> 02:59:57,840
Speaker 3: Well, you know at war.

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Speaker 19: I mean, if you know, say hypothetically I was over

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Speaker 19: a country they attacked me, I would do what I

3066
03:00:04,720 --> 03:00:08,000
Speaker 19: have to do to protect myself first and foremost and

3067
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Speaker 19: go after them.

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Speaker 3: As they have gone after me. As everybody should know

3069
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Speaker 3: the United States probably is working at the behaff of Israel,

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Speaker 3: a Zionist government led by Nadyahu, who has a record

3071
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Speaker 3: of genocide against the Palestinian people, which by the way,

3072
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Speaker 3: Joe Biden was part of that, the genocide that had

3073
03:00:33,160 --> 03:00:37,840
Speaker 3: taken place in Palestine. And I'm sure that they want

3074
03:00:37,920 --> 03:00:43,240
Speaker 3: to destroy the current regime of Iran. And to me,

3075
03:00:43,680 --> 03:00:48,760
Speaker 3: it would be logical for Iran to go after Israel

3076
03:00:48,840 --> 03:00:53,560
Speaker 3: because Israel is pushing to have the total dominance in

3077
03:00:53,720 --> 03:00:57,880
Speaker 3: the Middle East area. And we shall see what happens.

3078
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Speaker 3: And again, everybody, let me just say this too. Each

3079
03:01:02,640 --> 03:01:07,400
Speaker 3: person right here who's listening to us pay taxes, ain't no,

3080
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Speaker 3: and my tax dollars is going to fund a war

3081
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Speaker 3: that I'm against. We should be outraged. We should be

3082
03:01:15,959 --> 03:01:20,520
Speaker 3: calling our congress people that supposed to represent us, to

3083
03:01:20,720 --> 03:01:25,800
Speaker 3: stand up and speak out against this thirty four count

3084
03:01:26,040 --> 03:01:30,519
Speaker 3: indicted president who's approven criminal.

3085
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Speaker 19: Getting at the rage war and some of our.

3086
03:01:35,800 --> 03:01:39,720
Speaker 3: People's loved ones may end up being killed because of

3087
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Speaker 3: of I'm gonna call him my maniac at the hamm

3088
03:01:45,560 --> 03:01:50,160
Speaker 3: of this government. So decides that this is madness that

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Speaker 3: we are under. So I'm publicly saying that I'm totally

3090
03:01:54,840 --> 03:02:00,480
Speaker 3: against beyond state's waging war on Iran. I'm told against

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Speaker 3: the United States uh trying to strangle the economy of Cuba,

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Speaker 3: and they're using our text dollars, my tax dollars to

3093
03:02:09,640 --> 03:02:11,560
Speaker 3: do it. So I'm outraged about it.

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Speaker 1: And so you should. But you know what, brother Zachi,

3095
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Speaker 1: A lot of people don't understand that what what at

3096
03:02:17,520 --> 03:02:20,080
Speaker 1: that level? How the where the money comes from? You know,

3097
03:02:20,200 --> 03:02:22,959
Speaker 1: we pay taxes and we we don't talk about what's

3098
03:02:23,000 --> 03:02:25,440
Speaker 1: going where our money is being spent. And you're right, Uh,

3099
03:02:25,560 --> 03:02:27,640
Speaker 1: there's some people are upset what's going on with Cuba.

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Speaker 1: What's the endgame though? Do they want to regime change

3101
03:02:31,600 --> 03:02:34,360
Speaker 1: or they want they want Cuba just to you know,

3102
03:02:34,640 --> 03:02:36,840
Speaker 1: no longer be a socialist nation. How do you see

3103
03:02:36,879 --> 03:02:38,039
Speaker 1: whether they's going after Cuba?

3104
03:02:38,200 --> 03:02:40,279
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they want a regime change.

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03:02:40,360 --> 03:02:43,960
Speaker 19: They don't want the Cuba to uh uh have this

3106
03:02:44,480 --> 03:02:45,280
Speaker 19: current leadership.

3107
03:02:45,360 --> 03:02:47,760
Speaker 3: And we can't forget as a race of people. And

3108
03:02:47,840 --> 03:02:51,360
Speaker 3: that's why it's important to be a student of international

3109
03:02:52,160 --> 03:02:54,240
Speaker 3: studies and know about world politics.

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Speaker 19: Cuba has sent doctors over to Africa to help out people.

3111
03:03:00,360 --> 03:03:04,040
Speaker 3: It was cure to sit its troops to Angola to

3112
03:03:04,160 --> 03:03:09,160
Speaker 3: fight on behalf of the Angola independence movement from South Africa.

3113
03:03:09,640 --> 03:03:14,480
Speaker 3: It was Cuba that allowed Estolish Shakur to reside in

3114
03:03:14,600 --> 03:03:17,480
Speaker 3: this country under the great pressure of the United States

3115
03:03:17,560 --> 03:03:22,440
Speaker 3: government to return a stout of Shakour here. As you know,

3116
03:03:22,560 --> 03:03:25,840
Speaker 3: they put what twenty five million dollar buying on her,

3117
03:03:26,280 --> 03:03:32,320
Speaker 3: but Cuba resisted it. So we should be standing with Cuba.

3118
03:03:32,400 --> 03:03:35,800
Speaker 3: It was Cure that offered to send doctors. So when

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03:03:36,120 --> 03:03:42,280
Speaker 3: you had Hurricane Katrina hit the black community, it's tough

3120
03:03:42,560 --> 03:03:46,560
Speaker 3: to hit it back when the car I think that

3121
03:03:46,760 --> 03:03:50,720
Speaker 3: was in two thousand and oh five, So yes, we

3122
03:03:50,760 --> 03:03:53,600
Speaker 3: should be And one last thing on Cuba. Cuba has

3123
03:03:53,680 --> 03:03:59,400
Speaker 3: a huge black population that has supported the current government

3124
03:03:59,560 --> 03:04:03,200
Speaker 3: of Qube, So yes, we should be outraged about what's

3125
03:04:03,280 --> 03:04:07,879
Speaker 3: taking place. And again I just want to emphasize we've

3126
03:04:07,920 --> 03:04:13,240
Speaker 3: been led by a thirty four count indicted president that

3127
03:04:14,959 --> 03:04:21,119
Speaker 3: trying to dominate the world and not allow the breath

3128
03:04:21,240 --> 03:04:23,320
Speaker 3: of different alternative societies.

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Speaker 1: You know, sticks away from the top the hour, brother Zachi,

3130
03:04:27,120 --> 03:04:28,959
Speaker 1: and one of the things he'll probably talk about tonight

3131
03:04:29,120 --> 03:04:31,840
Speaker 1: is the tariffs, because he said he thinks the tariffs

3132
03:04:31,879 --> 03:04:35,440
Speaker 1: are working and he's threatened to Cuba, threatened countries if

3133
03:04:35,480 --> 03:04:38,480
Speaker 1: they do any business with Cuba, even just accepting the

3134
03:04:38,760 --> 03:04:42,560
Speaker 1: medical brigade, He's going to put tariffs on increased tamps.

3135
03:04:42,600 --> 03:04:44,400
Speaker 1: So a lot of the countries are backing off of

3136
03:04:44,480 --> 03:04:47,120
Speaker 1: doing anything to do with Cuba. How do you see

3137
03:04:47,160 --> 03:04:49,320
Speaker 1: this whole use of tariffs, how do you see that

3138
03:04:49,680 --> 03:04:53,320
Speaker 1: working for him or or for us those black people

3139
03:04:53,360 --> 03:04:53,840
Speaker 1: in America.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know it's not working for us as first

3141
03:04:58,600 --> 03:05:04,520
Speaker 3: and farmers in opinion, And as you may mentioned, he's threatened.

3142
03:05:05,080 --> 03:05:10,440
Speaker 3: What he's trying to do with not allowing other countries

3143
03:05:10,560 --> 03:05:15,120
Speaker 3: to trade with Cuba and prevent all is to try

3144
03:05:15,200 --> 03:05:21,400
Speaker 3: to cause tremendous economic stuffering in Cuba so that the

3145
03:05:21,520 --> 03:05:26,880
Speaker 3: people will be ready to overthrow the current system. And

3146
03:05:27,000 --> 03:05:32,160
Speaker 3: this current system of socialism, and Cuba has been able

3147
03:05:32,280 --> 03:05:37,440
Speaker 3: to survive economically even though the United States has had

3148
03:05:37,560 --> 03:05:42,560
Speaker 3: this bark embargo on Cuba for years now, and in fact,

3149
03:05:42,600 --> 03:05:46,800
Speaker 3: the United Nations has condemned the majority of the countries

3150
03:05:46,920 --> 03:05:51,160
Speaker 3: in this country supposedly like democracy as part of the

3151
03:05:51,280 --> 03:05:55,280
Speaker 3: United Nations, which is a combination of countries of the world,

3152
03:05:55,800 --> 03:05:59,080
Speaker 3: but the majority of the countries of the world have

3153
03:05:59,360 --> 03:06:05,240
Speaker 3: condemned the embargo against Cuba. You had except for the

3154
03:06:05,400 --> 03:06:12,240
Speaker 3: United States and Israel, So you know, this country doesn't

3155
03:06:12,280 --> 03:06:17,520
Speaker 3: respect democracy at all, and so that's the struggle that's

3156
03:06:17,680 --> 03:06:18,200
Speaker 3: before us.

3157
03:06:19,000 --> 03:06:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the things to look for tonight, family

3158
03:06:21,160 --> 03:06:24,160
Speaker 1: is if members of the Supreme Court will show up

3159
03:06:24,720 --> 03:06:27,480
Speaker 1: for this hearing, because for the first time they rebuked

3160
03:06:27,520 --> 03:06:31,320
Speaker 1: him a majority. It stood. You know about is Taris

3161
03:06:31,440 --> 03:06:33,800
Speaker 1: and you still can't get over that. So we got

3162
03:06:33,920 --> 03:06:36,800
Speaker 1: to watch out for that tonight. At tonight's State of

3163
03:06:36,840 --> 03:06:39,240
Speaker 1: the Union address, Brother Zaki, want to thank you for

3164
03:06:39,280 --> 03:06:41,760
Speaker 1: all the information you shared with us today, but also

3165
03:06:41,840 --> 03:06:43,320
Speaker 1: more I want to thank you for the work that

3166
03:06:43,440 --> 03:06:46,280
Speaker 1: you do in Saint Luis, especially with doing with the

3167
03:06:46,360 --> 03:06:48,920
Speaker 1: Gambia as well. Also what you did with Jackson. Your

3168
03:06:48,959 --> 03:06:51,880
Speaker 1: group got fresh water supplies to our brothers and sisters

3169
03:06:51,959 --> 03:06:55,400
Speaker 1: in Jackson, Mississippi. Books also what you did in Haiti.

3170
03:06:55,480 --> 03:06:58,520
Speaker 1: You guys are really on a roll and an example

3171
03:06:58,560 --> 03:07:01,720
Speaker 1: of what other groups should be doing in this country

3172
03:07:01,760 --> 03:07:03,800
Speaker 1: for black folks globally. So I just want to thank

3173
03:07:03,840 --> 03:07:04,120
Speaker 1: you for that.

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03:07:04,240 --> 03:07:08,680
Speaker 3: Personally, I appreciate the call, and then again I just

3175
03:07:08,800 --> 03:07:13,520
Speaker 3: want to thank you for informing our people. But beyond

3176
03:07:13,640 --> 03:07:15,800
Speaker 3: informing that people. I want to close out on this.

3177
03:07:17,879 --> 03:07:22,800
Speaker 3: Please with your consciousness, those who are listening, get involved,

3178
03:07:23,320 --> 03:07:26,279
Speaker 3: join in the organization. We got to build a mass

3179
03:07:26,520 --> 03:07:30,960
Speaker 3: movement and do good every day. As Kathy Hughes would say,

3180
03:07:31,959 --> 03:07:32,400
Speaker 3: all right.

3181
03:07:32,360 --> 03:07:33,440
Speaker 1: So how can folks reach you?

3182
03:07:34,560 --> 03:07:36,960
Speaker 3: They can reach me at Eric Coche three one four

3183
03:07:37,800 --> 03:07:41,880
Speaker 3: four seven seven forty six twenty nine. That's directly, that's

3184
03:07:42,200 --> 03:07:45,760
Speaker 3: my direct number three one four four seven seven forty

3185
03:07:45,840 --> 03:07:49,000
Speaker 3: six twenty nine. Or they could call our office three

3186
03:07:49,120 --> 03:07:53,600
Speaker 3: one four eight three three four one five one. All right,

3187
03:07:53,760 --> 03:07:59,520
Speaker 3: thank you brother, website www dot you, APO dot org.

3188
03:08:00,440 --> 03:08:03,040
Speaker 1: All right, thanks brother Zaki family. That's it for the day.

3189
03:08:03,160 --> 03:08:06,760
Speaker 1: Classes dismissed. Stay strong, stay positive, please stay healthy. We'll

3190
03:08:06,760 --> 03:08:09,320
Speaker 1: see you tomorrow morning, six o'clock right here in Baltimore

3191
03:08:09,440 --> 03:08:13,119
Speaker 1: on ten ten WLB in the DMV on fourteen fifty

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Speaker 1: WOL