1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: There is so much going on over at the state House, 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: and we have to go to an expert on this matter. 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 2: Okay, Jim, Okay, let's do it. 4 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. From the Indiana Capitol Chronicle, we check in with Nicki, Kelly, 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: and Nikki. I'd like to start off with that bill 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: to legalize firing squads in Indiana. It failed to pass. 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: It was a pretty close vote, though, Wasn't it very close? 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 3: It was forty eight forty seven, which means it's not dead. 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: It didn't get fifty fifty one votes for or against, 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 3: So it can be called up again if the author 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 3: can try to convince a few of the nose to 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 3: switch their vote. 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. The author of the bill, Jim Lucas, he said 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: that he understands that it's a really sensitive topic. Why 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: do you think it didn't pass. 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 3: I think this was one of those examples of two 17 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: different arguments. So Democrats are obviously mostly against the executions period, 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: the death penalty, so they're obviously not going to be 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: interested in making it easier to do executions in Indiana. 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: And then you had a group of Republicans I believe 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 3: they were nineteen that were just uncomfortable with the maybe 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: even the imagery and the barbaricness of a firing squad. 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: Indiana has never had legal firing squads in Indiana ever 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: as part of the death penality. So to approve that 25 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six, I think gave several of them pause. Clearly, Hey, Nikki, 26 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 3: this is Jim. 27 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: Let's get kind of wonky here for a minute, because 28 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 2: I was interested in something you said earlier. You said 29 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: that the vote did not get fifty one votes for 30 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: either four or against, so therefore it could be brought 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: up again. So it's my understanding that if it had 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: gotten fifty one votes, then it would be dead for 33 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: the session. Is that correct? 34 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: If it had gotten fifty one against, it would have 35 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: been what they term decisively defeated, and then they wouldn't 36 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: be allowed to bring it up again for the session 37 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: because it didn't get either the author can petition. Actually, 38 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: to get even more wonky, you the author, please, But 39 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 3: so someone who voted no basically has to be bring 40 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 3: up a motion to revote, and the third reading deadline 41 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 3: to the House is on Monday, so they could do 42 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: that today or tomorrow if they think they can move 43 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 3: enough people. They would need three people, you know, to 44 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: move to the other side. 45 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: But it doesn't have to go back to committee. It's 46 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: just anybody that voted no can bring it up during 47 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: any session and then it would automatically come to another 48 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: vote again. 49 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: Correct And I don't if I'm remembering correctly. This doesn't 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 3: happen very often. I don't even think they really redebate it. 51 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: It's just a throw it up and see if they 52 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: moved a few votes. 53 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: If they bring it up again with the amendments that 54 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: they threw on, it happen again because they they had 55 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: that vote, and they remove the nitrogen hypoxia execution option, 56 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: and I thought this was interesting. They also put the 57 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: amendment in there that anybody, any members of the execution 58 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: team would have to go through a health screening, like 59 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: a mental health screening. 60 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the amendments are still in there. Any revote 61 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 3: would be on the bill as is, which included the 62 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: amendments that were added the other day. So yeah, it 63 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 3: would just be a straight revote on the bill as 64 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 3: is now. Meanwhile, in the Senate, we don't know that. 65 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: Let's say they do get the additional three votes, I 66 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: don't know what its chances are in the Senate because 67 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 3: they heard a firing squad bill and it got stuck 68 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: in committee, didn't even get out of committee. 69 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is kind of a stay tuned sort 70 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: of thing. It may come up again. All right. I 71 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: wanted to talk with you. It's NICKI Kelly from the 72 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: Indiana Capitol Chronicle, and I wanted to talk with you 73 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: about the House passing that military Police Force bill. Explain 74 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: that to us. 75 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, this one, I think has got a lot of 76 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: people's attention. It basically creates a special military policing unit 77 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: in the Indiana National Guard. Now the Guard it says 78 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: they really already have this in like individual unit, but 79 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: it would sort of coalesce them. It would give them 80 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: some specific training requirements. But the thing that I think 81 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 3: specifically caught people's attention is that the governor would be 82 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 3: able to deploy this military policing unit anywhere in the 83 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: state for basically any reason. I mean the way the 84 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 3: law works. I mean obviously it says, you know, during war, 85 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: during natural disasters, but he also says or any reason 86 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: he finds necessary. And so I think there's a lot 87 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: of concern about, you know, the governor, you know, against 88 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 3: the will of a community inserting police for whatever reason 89 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: he may find. And that's that's what we heard for 90 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: ninety minutes yesterday. 91 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 2: So, Nikki, if the governor already has the ability to 92 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: deploy the nation the Indiana National Guard, and there already 93 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 2: is this policing unit within the Guard, what's different about 94 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: this bill and would it give Governor Brawn any real 95 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: additional powers because it seems like they're kind of they're 96 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: already to a degree. 97 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it is kind of strange. The supporters 98 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 3: say the difference is actually good in that it requires 99 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: them to have some additional training that like, you know, 100 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 3: a general National guardman wouldn't have certain police training, right, 101 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: they're a soldier, So they say it actually provides better training. 102 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 3: There are some specifics. I think, I do believe the 103 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: one difference is it does give them arresting powers. They 104 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 3: give them, you know, the ability to seize property things 105 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 3: like that, So that is different. 106 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: Were they talking about a specific city, Do they have 107 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: some area specifically in mind? 108 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean no one said it, but I think 109 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: the undercurrent is concerned that they would. You know, everyone 110 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: has centered repup. I mean, all Republicans have basically message 111 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 3: that Indianapolis is this crime written, you know, place that 112 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 3: needs cleaned up because they don't like the mayor and 113 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 3: they don't like the prosecutor. And so I think that's 114 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 3: the undercurrent of the bill, the fear. 115 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: It doesn't say that specifically though. And the adjunct general 116 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: of the Indian Indiana National Guard, he's in support of 117 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: this bill. 118 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, this was his idea. He came to the administration 119 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 3: with it. Supporters point back to the Boston Marathon bobbing 120 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:34,119 Speaker 3: and some confusion and delay when the guard was called 121 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 3: out there. Obviously, Democrats kind of said, hey, guys, that 122 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: was thirteen years ago. I'm not really sure that's you know, 123 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: why is this just coming up now? The backdrop, the 124 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 3: backdrop that we have in the US is currently you know, 125 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 3: I think people are are bothered by it. 126 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: So this bill has passed the House and now it's 127 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: being sent to the Senate. Is that correct? 128 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: Yep? 129 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about Indy. Uh. Nikki Kelly from Indiana 130 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: Capitol Chronicle is on with us. Let's talk about this 131 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: article that you had Indiana hospitals worn of cuts and 132 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: closures without lawmaker intervention. What sort of intervention do some 133 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: of these hospitals want? 134 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 3: Well, I think the main thing they want it's probably twofold, right, 135 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 3: it's probably defensive, like stop picking on us, like, you know, 136 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 3: just do no harm kind of thing. And then I 137 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: think the second thing they really push for in Medicaid 138 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: and Medicare, reimbursement rates are far below the actual cost 139 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: of care, and a lot of their you know, customers 140 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: are Medicaid and Medicare, so they would like an increase 141 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: in reimbursement rates for sure. 142 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: So you have some of these rural hospitals that are 143 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: asking for kind of a safety net, but then you 144 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: have other hospitals that are actually making really large margins. 145 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: Is it the country hospitals that want this, Yeah, a 146 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: lot of. 147 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: The rural hospitals are very much struggling it. Like I said, 148 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: a lot of it is scale. You know, some of 149 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: these large, massive health systems, you know, they've got more 150 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: than just a hospital, and so they can lose money 151 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 3: in one area and make up money in another area 152 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: such as electives. But hospitals kind of don't have those options. 153 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: Smaller rural, independent hospitals, and so they are especially really struggling, 154 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 3: and they don't want you know, everyone sees these massive 155 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: profits for big nonprofit systems, and they want to just 156 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: remind people that, you know, that's the small amount of 157 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 3: the actual number of hospitals. And we've seen hospitals close 158 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: in Indiana, we've seen OBGUI, g y N services closed, 159 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 3: lots of counties don't have delivery services anymore. So I 160 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 3: think they're just trying to push back against that narrative. 161 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: Finally, let's talk about Donald Trump endorsing some of these 162 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: challengers to different seats throughout the state. One of them 163 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: who has not even filed yet. 164 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the most interesting one is that's in Senator 165 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: Travis Holdman's seat. They haven't found anyone to you know, 166 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 3: go against Senator Holdman, so he just came out with 167 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: that preemptive endorsement. I mean, the way it read to 168 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: me was they're trying to kind of push this guy 169 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 3: into running by saying, Hey, you've already got the presidence 170 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 3: of your pocket, but so far he still hasn't filed. 171 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 2: Hey, Nikki, So I get the sense that there's this 172 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: perception in Washington, both from the Washington lawmakers and kind 173 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: of the political elite, that this will be easy. We'll 174 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: just go in there and we'll primary a bunch of these, 175 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: you know, lawmakers in Indiana. But is the truth really different? 176 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: Because my perception of it is these people got elected 177 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: for a reason. They're really connected with their local communities 178 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: or districts. They're connected with their local party leadership, especially 179 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: at the county level. They've got an existing donor base 180 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: and network. What are your thoughts on kind of this 181 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 2: perception from the outside versus what's real on the inside. 182 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 3: Exactly? It is not going to be easy to topple 183 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 3: some of these incumbents. I mean, these people have deep 184 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 3: ties in their communities. You know, they run into them 185 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: at the grocery store, they pick up the phone when 186 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 3: you know, a constituent calls and has a trouble with 187 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 3: getting a permit from a state agency, that kind of stuff. 188 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 3: And so yeah, I mean it's going to take more 189 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: than just money. And I think they think a Trump 190 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: endorsement and some money will just clear the decks. And 191 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: I don't know for sure that that's the way it is. 192 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 3: You also have to consider that Trump's endorsement isn't you 193 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 3: know there was a time earlier on where it was 194 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: pretty much sacricinct. Right, you got the Trump endorsement, you 195 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 3: won but that is slowly eroded away, and so you know, 196 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 3: I think it'll be an interesting test president. 197 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been some races he's endorsed and that person 198 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: hasn't actually won the race. What are we looking forward to? 199 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: What are you working on today? What's going on over there? 200 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 3: Well, we've got third reading deadline in the Senate today. 201 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 3: There's a few bills, one on medical debt. In the House, 202 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: we've got second reading deadline. There's a bill on moving 203 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,359 Speaker 3: at casino, possibly to order in Indiana the Ten Commandments. 204 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: So yeah, we're coming up to Monday, will be the 205 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: last day of the first half obsession, and then the 206 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 3: bills will all swap. 207 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: All right, always the best. Nicky Kelly from the Indiana 208 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: Capitol Chronicle, We appreciate the conversation. 209 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 3: All right, have a good day, guys. 210 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: Yeah you too. It is ninety three WIBC. We were 211 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: just talking with Nicki Kelly from Indiana Capitol Chronicle and 212 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 1: we were mentioning how Donald Trump has endorsed some candidates, 213 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: some of them who haven't even filed yet. 214 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 2: But you get an endorsement, you get an adorsement. You'll 215 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: get an adorsement. 216 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: And at one time that meant something, but some people 217 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: think that now that is not necessarily the golden ticket. 218 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: And that leads us to the latest poll. This is 219 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: a Reuter's IPSOS poll. It was conducted January twenty third 220 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: through the twenty fifth, and it says that public approval 221 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: of President Trump's immigration policy has dropped to its lowest 222 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: level since his return to the White House. Now, of course, 223 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: this decline does follow what's going on in Minneapolis. Fifty 224 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: three percent disapprove of his immigration policy and only thirty 225 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: nine percent approved. That's down from forty one percent which 226 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: happened earlier this month. 227 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: You know, on the surface, when you hear this information, 228 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: my first thought is, oh gosh, this is a pretty 229 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: big deal for Trump. I mean, he ran on securing 230 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: the border and immigration. It's always been one of his 231 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: top polling items. You know, when they ask the question 232 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: who do you trust to do you know the best 233 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: job at border enforcement and immigration? You know, the Democrats 234 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: or Donald Trump? And Trump's had great poll numbers for 235 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: this and now because of what we've seen with incestional 236 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: headlines associated with ice, not a surprise that his approval 237 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: rating when it comes to immigration enforcement has dipped a bit. 238 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: But at the end, I don't even know if any 239 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: of these poll numbers matter for Trump. The guy just 240 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 2: keeps able to move forward regardless of what his poll 241 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: numbers look like. I mean, he's nothing seems to stick 242 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: to him. He's always going to have this hardcore base 243 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 2: of about forty percent of the country that's going to 244 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: love him no matter what he does. So I'm torn 245 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: a little bit on this as to whether or not 246 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: this is actually something Trump should be worried about or not, 247 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: because everything anytime that there's been any criticism of Trump, 248 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: and we're going on over ten years now that he's 249 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: either been president or former president, it hasn't seemed to 250 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: really matter at all that much. 251 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, he did win reelection promising that major surge in deportations, 252 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: and he's moving forward with that. Go to Minneapolis, fix 253 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: the problem, do some reassignment of some of the leaders, 254 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: and continue on with what's next. And I believe what's 255 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: next in Donald Trump's size Cuba. 256 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Donald Trump has had a lot of success 257 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: on the foreign policy standpoint, you know, especially when you know, 258 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: think back to April and he was rolling out his 259 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: tariffs all over the place, and you had economic experts 260 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: and political experts, this is the worst idea we've ever seen. 261 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna see prices rise dramatically because of these tariffs, 262 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: and it's gonna crush the American public. And Okay, so 263 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: tariffs may have been a little bit associated with inflation, 264 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: but it really hasn't been this you know, shock to 265 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: the system that we saw during COVID with inflation, and 266 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: I think this is kind of kind of playing that 267 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: out too again. It is as it relates to what's 268 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: going on with ICE. The images that come out with 269 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: these incidents are not good. Clearly, they're gonna give Trump 270 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: a black eye. They're gonna give immigration enforcement a black eye. 271 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: But we just had that poll that we talked about 272 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: a few days ago that agree completely that say, yes, 273 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: I agree. It was almost ninety percent of the American 274 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: public agree that illegal immigrants should be deported back to 275 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: their home country. So I think this something where if 276 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: Donald Trump can get the visuals cleared up, if we 277 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: can stop having these aggressive run ins with ICE agents, 278 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: not saying that it's the ICE agent's faults, not saying 279 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: it's you know, it's not their fault, just saying, if 280 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: we can get those images off of social media and 281 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: off of television. It's likely that Donald Trump's numbers on 282 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: immigration just go back to where they were before and 283 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: on the way up again. 284 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: There was news that ICE agents would be involved in 285 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: the upcoming Winter Olympics, and that sparked some outrage also 286 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: confusion in Italy many Italians. Is who it meant that 287 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: immigration enforcement was going to be there and they were 288 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: going to be deporting people in Italy? What it is? 289 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: It's Homeland Security investigation officers. Now that is a division 290 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: of ICE, but they perform a different task. They do 291 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: not perform immigration enforcement abroad. What they focus more on 292 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: is human trafficking and drug smuggling and stolen cultural artifacts. 293 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: How would you even do that perform immigration enforcement abroad 294 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: if you're abroad and let's say you're in Italy and 295 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: somebody with an immigration order from I don't even know 296 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: how the mechanics of that work. 297 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: Right. 298 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: You kind of have to be in this country for 299 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: there to be an immigration problem in this country. 300 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: Right exactly. Italian media, though not really distinguishing the difference 301 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: between HSI and the ERO and the Milan Mayer has 302 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: called ICE a militia that kills and said that they 303 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: were not welcome in Milan. 304 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: And you know, let me go back to this too, 305 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 2: because there's been a lot of oh jeez, you know, 306 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: this looks bad on the world stage for Americans, another 307 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: black guy. I am done caring what other countries think 308 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: about the United States. I am completely done. You get 309 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: these posts on social media and these news stories, Oh 310 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: America's you know, image in the world in Germany has 311 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: gone way. I don't care what Germans think about what's 312 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: going on in this country. I don't care what Britain's 313 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: think about what going on in this country. I don't 314 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: care what Italians think about what's going on in this country. 315 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: I don't care if they all think we're crazy, because 316 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 2: they actually have no idea what is truly happening in 317 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 2: this country. And even if they did, it doesn't matter. 318 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: We're here, they don't live here, and they don't I 319 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: never even think about other countries and what their thoughts 320 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: are of us. So I'm done with. 321 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: If you could put actors and actresses in that category 322 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: as well, I don't care what they think they've done 323 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: with that. 324 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to the day to 325 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: day operation and what's going on in this country. It 326 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: doesn't matter what Russia thinks of us, it doesn't matter 327 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: what countries in Africa think of us. I'm fine just 328 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 2: doing what we do, and whatever they think across the 329 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 2: pond is fine with me because it doesn't matter. 330 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: So you've got the federal government. They could partially shut 331 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: down coming up on Saturday this if Congress doesn't approve 332 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: spending bills. The House has passed a package funding multiple 333 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: federal agencies, including DHS, Treasury, and Defense. The Senate approval 334 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: is required, though Democrats could block the bills because they 335 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: hold enough votes to sustain a filibuster. And you've got 336 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: John Fetterman, tell me, tell me if you can understand 337 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: what he's saying. 338 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 2: He does, he does mumble a little bit. 339 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: Well, he's a ranking member of something. Listen to this. 340 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 4: I think shutting our government down is fundamentally wrong. All 341 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 4: of those changes are entirely appropriate for our ICE. And 342 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 4: then I said, I've I've called that they have to 343 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 4: stand down and remove there from Minneapolis, and Nome has 344 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 4: to go. 345 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 5: So so for me, that's where we are. 346 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 4: I don't think there's a single Democrat that thinks that 347 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 4: ICE is doing a good job. Or behaving in an 348 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 4: appropriate way, I think and I hope we can all 349 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 4: agree that those two souls should be alive right now. 350 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 5: So what's the right way to move it forward? 351 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 4: So for me, that's me as a Democrat, as someone 352 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 4: that believes we should have a secure border, and I 353 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 4: do think we should deport all of the criminals in 354 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 4: our country, and as a member of as actually the 355 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 4: ranking member on the subcommittee of Board Security for that. 356 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 5: So for me, I support a secure border, but now 357 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 5: no has to go. 358 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 4: But I also was the Democrat that really tried to 359 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 4: lead the charge that Mayorkas was a disaster and our 360 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 4: border was effectively open, and I warned that could very 361 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 4: much cost our election in twenty twenty four, as it did. 362 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 4: So I tried to play it straightforward and realize that 363 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 4: not a single Democrat passed or voted for the big 364 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 4: beautiful bill and that has provided the funding. 365 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 5: For ICE, and not a single Democrat. 366 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 4: Is not appalled by Ice and the circumstances in Minneapolis. 367 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: He's the ranking member of a subcommittee of something. 368 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just looked it up. So despite his word 369 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 2: salad that came out of his mouth, John Fetterman is 370 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 2: the ranking member of the Senate Subcommittee on Border Management. 371 00:19:58,359 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: That's what it was. 372 00:19:59,000 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 2: That's officially what it is. 373 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: The word management I believe was left out of it. 374 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: He was missing several words. I think in that process 375 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 2: we filled it in for in. 376 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: Case you missed it. He said he thinks shutting our 377 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: government down is fundamentally wrong, but there needs to be 378 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: changes in ice. 379 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: The government shutdown has kind of snuck up on me. 380 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 2: I know we've talked about it a little bit in 381 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: the last week, but it did see it seems like 382 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 2: this one is not being talked about to the degree 383 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 2: that the last one is. I don't know if that 384 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 2: means that, you. 385 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: Know, partial shutdown, that's part of the reason why. 386 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: Okay, But and I don't know if that means that 387 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: it's less likely to happen or more likely to happen 388 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 2: because people aren't talking about it. But what are you 389 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: doing for the government shutdown? I feel like we should 390 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: kind of treat it like we did Snowmageddon last weekend, 391 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 2: Like I should rush to the grocery store, buy up 392 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 2: all the snacks and fun stuff we can find, and 393 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 2: just kind of hunker down during the next government shutdown 394 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 2: and watch movies and TV shows. 395 00:20:51,200 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: You're listening to ninety three WIBC. Longtime Democratic Senator Amy 396 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: Klobajar just jumped into the twenty six race for Minnesota governor. 397 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: This is coming three weeks after that move by Tim 398 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: Walls to drop his reelection bid. Klobajar just fifteen months 399 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: ago was reelected for her fourth six year term in 400 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: the US Senate. But she's saying bye bye to that, 401 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: thank you for reelecting me. I've got a different job 402 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: in mind. What she has is a big mess to 403 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: clean up, or at least try to. 404 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's going to do what a lot of politicians do, 405 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 2: which as soon as they get elected they see a 406 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 2: bright and shiny new toy and they completely abandon their 407 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: constituency and those that voted for them in that office 408 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: and move on to another government job that they want more. 409 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 2: And she's probably gonna win this race. I mean, she's 410 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,719 Speaker 2: got an outstanding name recognition, She's been the senator from 411 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: the state of Minnesota for a long time. She's got 412 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 2: great national kind of visibility to her. She's always on 413 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 2: the Sunday talk shows. I think this is more than 414 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: likely an easy cakewalk for her to become the governor 415 00:21:58,560 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 2: of Minnesota. 416 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: Well, she's going to have to work side by side 417 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: with the Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessant, because he 418 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: is targeting billions of dollars in government benefits fraud, which 419 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: are linked to the Somali communities in Minnesota. His efforts 420 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: include issuing notices of investigation. He flat out saying, Hey, 421 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to be investigating you guys, geotagging orders that 422 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: are for enforced reporting on certain international transactions. And they're 423 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: also sending alerts to different financial institutions about fraud in 424 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: federal child nutrition programs. You've got Ron DeSantis and he 425 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: has been slamming the Congress saying that they're doing nothing 426 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: though to stop the Somali welfare fraud. 427 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 6: So in Congress draw a sharp contrast with the left 428 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 6: on immigration. No, for example, Laura, we're talking about interior enforcement. 429 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 6: It's important. I'm obviously have done a lot in Florida 430 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 6: for it. But why not go after the remittances? Why 431 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 6: not reduce some of the carrots that people are coming 432 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 6: in legally? Why not do employment verification, why not define 433 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 6: sanctuary cities. These are things that our voters would support. 434 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 6: Eighty percent, and yet you don't see that being done. 435 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 6: So I think if they go bold, if they make 436 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 6: the Democrats vote against these really important popular conservative things. 437 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: You know, our voters will get a little. 438 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 6: Bit more energize. I do think that that would happen. 439 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: So he said that these are things that eighty percent 440 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: of voters would support, and yet you don't see it 441 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: being done, do you. 442 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,959 Speaker 2: Well, this would require some difficult work. I mean some 443 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: things that Ron de Santis just mentioned there included stop 444 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: stopping spending money, which politicians hate doing and will only 445 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,239 Speaker 2: do is absolutely you know when they're forced to do that. 446 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 2: So the other part of this is too, this is 447 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: going to take time. Like we talked about with the 448 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 2: Ice investigations and the incidents that have happened, It's all 449 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 2: not run out and form an opinion and become legal 450 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: experts and investigative experts overnight. Let the process work itself out. 451 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: This process is going to have to work itself out. 452 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 2: I would hope that we keep the politician's feet to 453 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 2: the fire on this, similar to the way the population 454 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: has kept the feet to the fire on the Epstein files. 455 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 2: Keep bringing that up again and again again and wanting 456 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 2: it to get released. I hope that we stay on 457 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: top of this and make sure that there is some 458 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 2: investigation on this, that people go to jail because of this, 459 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 2: because it clearly looks like crimes have been committed. 460 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: Silly with that talk. Nobody ever goes to jail. Nobody's 461 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: ever held account. Right. 462 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 2: We had a massive great recession back in two thousand 463 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 2: and eight, tied to a financial housing crisis, yet nobody 464 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 2: went to jail over that. I got to believe that 465 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: things would be different in this case here specifically. But 466 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 2: asking politicians to stop spending money is something that we've 467 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 2: been doing for a very very long time, and they 468 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: have no interest in listening to. 469 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: So the Treasury secretary, he hosted a round table. That's 470 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: how he's going to get it done. We're going to 471 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: talk about it. He had that round table with different 472 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: fraud victims, law enforcement, he says, state leaders, also community members. 473 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: But Kevin o'learray, you know him as mister wonderful. 474 00:24:58,720 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: From Shark Tank. 475 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: From Shark Tank. Yeah, he was on CNN and he 476 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: was talking about the fraud happening in Minnesota. Here's what 477 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: he said, What about if you're not left or right, 478 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: you're just a taxpayer like me, a lowly taxpayer, and 479 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: I'd like to investigate fraud. I want my money back 480 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: that was stolen from me. Is that okay? 481 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 3: Or is that not okay? 482 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 5: Listen that I want my money back. 483 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 7: Hold on, I mean, look, Kevin, the fraud is being invested, 484 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 7: has been investigated. Is we investigated? People are being prosecuted. 485 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 8: Uh. 486 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 7: The DOJ could be talking about that, but what they 487 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 7: decided to do instead was send immigration officials into Minnesota 488 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 7: presumptively because they thought that the fraud was coming only 489 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 7: from foreigners when most of the Somali's who they were 490 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 7: target I don't care. 491 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: Where it's coming from. 492 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 6: I want my money back. 493 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 7: But what I get she is saying nothing. They are 494 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 7: doing nothing they have to do with it is helping 495 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 7: you get your money back. 496 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 1: I represent taxpayers, and I want then if you payers, 497 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:00,959 Speaker 1: then tell the the way president about a ton of 498 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: money and they just keep you on arguing. But I 499 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: think he's sharing this sentiment that most people feel. Everybody 500 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: feels that way. Where's my money? Do something about this? 501 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, we need to keep making sure that 502 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 2: our politicians hold the feet to the fire and continue 503 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 2: this investigation here because it's not going away. And let's 504 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 2: let's not pretend that what's happening with ICE in Minneapolis 505 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 2: has anything to do with this Somali fraud. It may 506 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 2: from a marketing perspective, but ICE isn't doing investigations into 507 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: money fraud. That's not part of what they're doing. 508 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: Now, that's not their job. But Joe Rogan, he's saying 509 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 1: that everybody has forgotten about the fraud scandal ever since 510 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: the riots in Minneapolis broke out. 511 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 9: There's a lot of people that don't understand what's going 512 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 9: on and why riots only in Minneapolis, and why riots 513 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 9: in the place where there's an ungodly amount of fraud 514 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 9: that has been. 515 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: Discovered coincidentally right around the same time. 516 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 9: Exactly like instantaneously afterwards, the narrative completely changes. Everybody forgets 517 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 9: about the fraud. Now all anybody cares about is ICE 518 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 9: and fascists and Nazis. Yeah, and it's uh, there's a 519 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 9: you know what a color revolution is, of course, and 520 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 9: for people that don't, it's it's a coordinated effort to 521 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 9: cause chaos, and this is a very coordinated thing. The 522 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 9: idea that this is an organic protest, these are these 523 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 9: riots organic is nonsense. It's provably nonsense because now they 524 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 9: have access to the signal chats. 525 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: So he's saying that the riots are taking place to 526 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: cover up the fraud. It's the they're changing the conversation. 527 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: We don't want you to talk about that, so we're 528 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: going to do this now. 529 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's certainly some circumstantial evidence and some reports 530 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: out there that that may be the case. I look, 531 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: when when Tim Walls and Frey the mayor of Minneapolis 532 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 2: tell their local law enforcement to not cooperate with ICE. 533 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: When that happens, we've seen it play out in other 534 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: states and other cities across the country, that's when you 535 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 2: get these sort of confrontations because you don't have local 536 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 2: law enforcement there to provide crowd control. So yeah, and 537 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 2: then what he mentioned it a little bit there. But 538 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: there have been some reports and some details about these 539 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 2: signal chats and Signal is a mobile messaging app that 540 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: a lot of these protesters are using to organize and 541 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 2: communicate with themselves. And from the looks of it, and 542 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 2: there's a lot of appearance that shows that a lot 543 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 2: of the people that are organizing that communication are members 544 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: of Tim Walls's staff, employees of the state of Minnesota. 545 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of questions going on that are 546 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 2: saying that, hey, maybe there are people within the government 547 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 2: within the state of Minnesota that are trying to create 548 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: these narratives and create these incidents around ice and their 549 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: enforcement of immigration as a way to distract from the 550 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: Somali fraud investigation. 551 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: So back to Scott Besson, the Treasury Secretary, he said 552 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: that they're aggressively pursuing large scale benefits fraud in Minnesota. 553 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: They're coordinating investigations, audits, law enforcement training, and they're trying 554 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: to highlight the broader economic context of the Trump administration policies. Next, 555 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: will they turn their eyes to California? And what about 556 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: New York? The new mayor of New York City, he 557 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: says that they're facing a fiscal crisis the scale comparable 558 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: to the Great Recession. 559 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 8: We are speaking about a fiscal crisis at the scale 560 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 8: greater than the Great Recession. And so there will not 561 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 8: be one single thing that can answer that crisis. It 562 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 8: will require us to pursue every single avenue. That means 563 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 8: looking inward into savings and efficiencies. That also means raising 564 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 8: taxes on the wealthiest. New Yorker's the most profitable corporations, 565 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 8: and it means recalibrating the relationship with the state. 566 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, he just said raise taxes. What happened 567 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: to all the free stuff? 568 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 2: Oh, that's what they're gonna they got to Well, they 569 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 2: got to pay for all that free stuff. They got 570 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: to raise taxes. So he mentioned reducing spending and raising taxes. 571 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: You want to play some bet and which one of 572 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: those two things he's actually gonna do. I'm gonna guess 573 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 2: that he's not gonna spend a lot of time on 574 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 2: reducing spending. He's gonna spend the majority of his time 575 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: on increasing taxes. 576 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: Now, there's a program in New York. It's called Consumer 577 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: Directed Personal Assistance Program, and the governor there said it 578 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: is one of the most abused programs in New York City, 579 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: and critics are saying that that is the biggest fraud 580 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: there is because it takes place in people's homes. Now, 581 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: speaking of Kathy Hochel, governor, she's been snubbed twice now 582 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: in a hunt for a running mate. She's struggling to 583 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: fill New York's lieutenant governor post. 584 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: You know, I think she'll end up finding somebody that 585 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: does it, somebody that wants to spend as much money 586 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 2: as Kathy Holkle does. But look at the city of 587 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 2: New York. So if you live in New York City, 588 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: you're paying, in addition to your federal income tax, in 589 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 2: addition to York state income tax, you're paying a three 590 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: to four percent city income tax. Now, when you buy things, 591 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: there's a sales tax. Course, there's a State of New 592 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 2: York sales tax, but there's an additional four to five 593 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: percent city sales tax in New York. You've got property 594 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 2: taxes in New York. It's going to be interesting to 595 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: see where Mandami actually finds these tax increases from, because 596 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 2: people of New York, residence of New York already got 597 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 2: a million taxes coming down on top of their head. 598 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: You're listening to ninety three WYBC. Oh, sure, everything's expensive, groceries, 599 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: utility bills, taxes, taxes, But what you're not going to 600 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: cut out is travel. That's, according to a new article, 601 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: many Americans sacrificing other expenses in order to get the 602 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: heck out of where they currently are. I got to 603 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: change the scenery right. 604 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 2: In some ways. So there's a lot of takes on 605 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: this story that are out there about it, how Americans 606 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: are cutting back on the on necessities and other spending, 607 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: but they're not going to give up their travel budget. 608 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of people out there that saying, 609 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: you know, hey, you've got to cut wherever you can, 610 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 2: and you know you need to take travel and vacations 611 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 2: off the table. I think this is actually a good thing. 612 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 2: I think as a culture and as a country, we've 613 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 2: already spent way too much money on just junk that 614 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 2: we don't need, on stuff that we don't need to 615 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 2: fill up our big houses. And there's definitely been this shift, 616 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 2: especially with the younger generation, a little bit with the millennials, 617 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 2: but definitely a big shift with gen Z where when 618 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 2: it comes to spending your dollars, they're more interested in 619 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 2: an experience than having something. They'd much rather take a 620 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: vacation to Cancun than buy a three thousand dollars per yep. 621 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: So they say fifty one percent of adults, so they'd 622 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: cut back on spending over the year to pay for 623 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: their trips. So what are they skipping out on. They're 624 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: skipping out on dinners out, They're limiting their events with friends, 625 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: they're reduced subscriptions. Boy, that's a good one. That'll get 626 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: you right, because how many subscriptions to streaming services do 627 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: you currently have? 628 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: Well, there is way too many, You're right, we can't 629 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: talk about that. We have way more than what we 630 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: should personally. But I mean subscriptions go beyond streaming services too. 631 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 2: There was the meal prep kits that would get mailed 632 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 2: to your house where you just got to mix everything together. 633 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 2: That was a subscription. There are people that have clothing 634 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 2: subscriptions where they get, you know, several new shirts and 635 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 2: a couple pairs of pants in the mail every day. 636 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: There's more subscriptions beyond just streaming services, and they're so 637 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 2: easy to sign up for because usually they give you 638 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 2: a month free or a big discount, and then it 639 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 2: just automatically charged it just to your credit card and 640 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 2: you're not paying attention, and it's six months or twelve 641 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 2: months later and you've been charged monthly for this service 642 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 2: and you really haven't been getting the most out of it. 643 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. They also say that they're using price trackers, installment payments, 644 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: and also flexible travel options like taking longer layovers and 645 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: airports so that they can get cheaper air fray boy, 646 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: I hate the long layover. I like the direct flight. 647 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: To me, if you're gonna save for travel, the direct 648 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: flight is a good expense. Yeah that it gets you 649 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: where you want to go faster. 650 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. If you want to fly to Florida and you 651 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 2: can get a direct flight to either Miami or Tampa, 652 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 2: you're gonna get there at about two two and a half hours. 653 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 2: If you've got to stop over in Atlanta or Charlotte 654 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 2: or Dallas, you can be looking at a nine hour 655 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 2: travel day because of all of that. So I get 656 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 2: that completely, that part of it. But being part of 657 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 2: experiences and spending your money on experiences, I'd be interested. 658 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,479 Speaker 2: It's too bad that we don't have some more data 659 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 2: on this, but I'd be interested as to how much 660 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 2: social media is playing into this. 661 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: Oh like a fomo. 662 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: Well, not only that, but I get to go on 663 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 2: vacation to Aruba and post all these beautiful pictures on 664 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 2: social media of me in a swimsuit and by the 665 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 2: beach and having drinks and having fun on vacation. I 666 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: wonder how much that is a factor of it. I'm 667 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 2: not going to post pictures of my grocery store hall 668 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 2: that I just went or the new kitchen table that 669 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 2: I just bought. But I I am going to post 670 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 2: pictures if I spend money on a tropical vacation or 671 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 2: something exotic. 672 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. Gen Z and millennials, they 673 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: let travel costs heavily influence their plans, and vacations are 674 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: the top use of PTO. Fifty five percent of workers 675 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: spend time on their trips rather than just not doing anything. 676 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 2: Look, we like to travel. We get that. I can 677 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 2: completely get this, and I personally would cut back spending 678 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 2: on other areas in exchange for travel. We're going to 679 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 2: be traveling here in a couple of months and seeing 680 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 2: a family member for a birthday and making a weekend 681 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 2: out of it with a big group of people, And 682 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: that's that's valuable to me. It's an experience. I'm spending 683 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 2: time with family and people I love. I get why 684 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 2: people are hanging on to that vacation and travel budget 685 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 2: like grim death and cutting expenses everywhere else. 686 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: Well, everybody needs a chance to reset, don't they. Costco 687 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: is now facing a class action lawsuit this over their 688 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: rotisserie chick Oh. 689 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 2: Come if they ruin, If these people that are doing 690 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 2: ruin the five dollars rotisseri chicken for me, I'm gonna 691 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 2: lose my mind. 692 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: Well, the plaintiff has alleged that the rotisserie chicken contains preservatives, 693 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: even though the signage said there's no preservatives. Oh guess 694 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 1: where the plaintiff is based out of California, California. 695 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: A couple of whiny cry babies from California trying to 696 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 2: ruin the five dollar Costco rotisserie chicken for the rest 697 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,439 Speaker 2: of us. Don't tell me that there somebody. That would 698 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 2: be the worst news if somebody tries to come for 699 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 2: the dollar fifty hot dog and coke. 700 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: Costco said the ingredients support moisture, texture, and consistency and 701 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: are approved by food safety authorities. 702 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 2: Every time I go to Costco, I get the dollar 703 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 2: fifty hot the dollar fifty hot dog and coke every 704 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 2: single time. I don't care if it's nine thirty in 705 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 2: the morning and Costco just opened, I am going to 706 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 2: force feed myself that hot dog and coke. Not only 707 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 2: is it delicious, Number one, I can't pass up that deal. 708 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 2: I can't pass up the dollar fifty hot dog and coke. 709 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: Planets are seeking monetary damages and a class certification. You 710 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: had mentioned social media just a moment ago. There's a 711 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: new trend happening on social media, and that is that 712 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: users are adding pink or yellow coloring to any text 713 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: that they put up. That is to signal an emotional 714 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: tone in the post. So I'm going to change the 715 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: color of the text to pink or yellow to let 716 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: you know that this is emotional. 717 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 2: I don't even know how to do that. I don't 718 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 2: think you can change the color of the text on Twitter. 719 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,959 Speaker 2: I'm not sure about Instagram or Facebook. But and it's 720 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 2: to signal the emotion. What emotion does yellow? 721 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: Projecting yellow is to be raw, introspective, and emotionally vulnerable. 722 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: It often means loneliness and self doubt, and pink focuses 723 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: on love and romance and relationships. That just sounds like 724 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: a whole lot of work. Well, next level. 725 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 2: That's not the feeling I would get if I saw 726 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 2: somebody that posted yellow text on social media. When I 727 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 2: think of yellow, I think of a stoplight. So I 728 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 2: think of caution. It's like, okay, hold on, stuff's changing. 729 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 2: We don't know where you're going to go here. I 730 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 2: don't think of emotionally raw from yellow. 731 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: I think that that just takes up too much time. 732 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: Like that is somebody who's got too much time on 733 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 1: their hands, not only to create the post, but then 734 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 1: to color coordinate it with the emotion that they're trying 735 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: to express, and. 736 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 2: Then assuming that the person viewing it knows what that means, 737 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 2: sees that color the same way. Now, I get pink. 738 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 2: Pink to me just says girly. So I get that 739 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 2: if you're going to be posting about a purse or 740 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 2: something like that, or women's shoes, fine, use pink, and 741 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 2: that one comes across. But yellow, meaning raw emotion, I'm 742 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 2: not getting that from yellow, all right. 743 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: So the FEDS they really didn't do much for the rates. 744 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: They kind of just kept it where it was and 745 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 1: we'll talk about it coming up. It is ninety three WIBC. 746 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 1: Good morning. 747 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 2: I've never been that no thatch. 748 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: The places are out than