1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: A good weeded bourbon. 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: That's what will set you right. And so I said, hey, Fingers, 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: how about a good weeded bourbon? And Fingers said. 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 3: I would enjoy a good weeded bourbon. It's correct answer, 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 3: real it was, I would enjoy a good weeded bourbon. 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: See Drink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz. 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 2: That right there is fingers below. I find everything at 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: Eat Drinks Smoke show dot com. Travelers Point, Travelers Point, 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: Distillery dot com is where we are. This is their 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: weeded bourbon coming in at ninety seven proof. Oh no, applause, 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: fingers wiing, no, I want to make sure I have 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: that right. Forty eight point five times two you carry 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: the three, take off your shoes, caunt, big toe. That's 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: a ninety seven proof right there. This is a four 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: year plus age bourbon. And when you're something is weeded, 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: that means they've added wheat to the mash bill. And 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: the wheat usually I had to reach over, tends to 18 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: give it a smoother type of feel. According to Traveller's point, 19 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: this is seventy five percent corn. Of course, a bourbon 20 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: has to be at least fifty one percent corn. Seventeen 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 2: and a half percent wheat and seven and a half 22 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: percent malted barley, or I should say barley malt. 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: Checking the nose on this fingers my way and before. 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: Anything, that's I wish you almost wish it was a 25 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 2: little bit darker. It's a little more orange than it 26 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: is amber. It's more orange than it is honey. So 27 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: there's a little bit of depth of character here. It's 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: a nice look as we have it in the glen 29 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: Cairn glass. 30 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: Right. 31 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: It's got the foot bows out comes back in. You 32 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: can really concentrate the flavors. I would not say that 33 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: that's got a real of his cost and he's sticking 34 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: slightly to the glass. What did you get on the nose? 35 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, you said four years plus, yes, 36 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: four years three months. 37 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: Nice got that right from the nose? He did? Oh, 38 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: there is uh you made that up. 39 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: A bit of citrus. 40 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: And a bit of a bit of citrus. 41 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: No, that is like Grandma's orange hard candy kind of See. 42 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: I have to get in. I have to get my 43 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 3: nose way down there to get anything. 44 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: What. 45 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, stop, and there's a little bit of spice. 46 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 2: Stop it. If I did that, I'd die really, Oh 47 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: my god, it would hurt. 48 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: Try it. All the kids are doing it. I saw 49 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: it on TikTok. 50 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: Dude that you don't get a little bit of ethanol 51 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: on that. 52 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: You're not getting like a deep kind of kind of 53 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 2: spice going on there. 54 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: There's a spice there. There is citrus and how much else? 55 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: Oh, that nose is hitting me hard. But there's a 56 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: lot of sweet, not fruit. 57 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: Orange sweets is a ton of orange. 58 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: I'm trying to fink. I'm trying to talk myself into 59 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 3: there being a little bit of oak there. I'm trying 60 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: to talk myself into it. 61 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: You don't get an ethanol either, No, are you okay? No, 62 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: we have to we have to take you right now. 63 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: Do you smell toast lemony pledge? No, it's not lemony, 64 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: It is orange. Yeah, right there. But enough of this Sniffin, 65 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: fingers molloy, Are you ready for this? 66 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: Enough of this? 67 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: Sniffin is one of my favorite country songs. 68 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: Nicely done, fingers malloy. 69 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: He's been ready for this all day. Is doing what's 70 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: known as the Kentucky chew, taking the juice, moving it 71 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: around the palate, getting a feel for it. I believe 72 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: in the two SIPs theory. The first sip to set 73 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: the taste, but it's the second sip to really get 74 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: an idea of the flavors. Right there, fingers that went 75 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: down seemingly went down pretty easy for you. 76 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: What say you nice bit of sting on the tongue, gentle, 77 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: warmth in the chest, that orange on the nose. It 78 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: definitely translates to the palate and I want to say, 79 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: there's a little bit of oak there, there's some spice, 80 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 3: and I'm not getting much of anything else. It's it's 81 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: not to me what I would It's definitely not a 82 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: traditional rye. I'll be interested because you are the rye 83 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: guy on eat, drink, smoke. Weed bourbon is not well 84 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: that it makes sense. Why did I have it in 85 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 3: my head it's a rye. I was like, I keep 86 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 3: waiting for like this rye spice. I'm like, there's some 87 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: spice there, but it's not right. 88 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: Well, then then your palate is not lying because it 89 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: is not in any way right. 90 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: This is Traveler's point. 91 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: I just said at the beginning of the segment, I 92 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: could go for a weeded bourbon. 93 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,239 Speaker 1: Right you are, I asked, are you smelling toasts? 94 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, Let me explain to you the challenges 95 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:56,559 Speaker 3: of getting older. It ain't easy. Go ahead, have a drink. 96 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: I've gone in. Uh the traveler's point. We did bourbon ry. 97 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 3: He's going in, ladies and gentlemen, and he's uh yeah, 98 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: he's doing the second I swish. He's doing the Memphis munch, 99 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: the Chattanooga chomp, the oh Kentucky che. 100 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: Oh oh oh oh yeah. 101 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 4: That palette is so sweet in that orange and then 102 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 4: in immediate like it goes dry on the tongue and 103 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 4: it gets it gets a little. 104 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: He's going back in. He's too sip tony ladies and gentlemen. 105 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 3: He's doing the Kentucky chew. It's not a rye. 106 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: It gets dry on the tongue, tiny little bit of 107 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: heat center chest. 108 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: Oh. 109 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: I can imagine people loving this. This is sweeter than 110 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: I ever am seventy. 111 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: It makes sense. 112 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: There's a heat build up on the right cheek, weirdly enough, 113 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: not the left cheek. Now the heat is all building 114 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: through the throat. Oh wow, that is all there. 115 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: It's like an orange. 116 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: It's not a cinnamon. It's not a cinnamon heat. 117 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm all I think that people would 118 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 3: go wild for this if they like the sweeter bourbons, 119 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: and I gotta think on a cube, this thing is 120 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 3: just gonna be absolutely orange fruity. 121 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to think. It's not juicy fruit, right, 122 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: it's not that flavor. 123 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 3: It's way more orange than that fruit stripe gum. 124 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: Fruit stripe gum was that a thing? 125 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: Remember the stripes and you'd bite into it and you 126 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: take two chees on the gum and then lose all 127 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 3: of its flavor. 128 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: That was basically all gum. 129 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 3: No, and they went just recently they stopped making it, 130 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: don't you remember? And the the rapper it was a zebra. 131 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: The wrapper was a zebra. I I have absolutely no idea. 132 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 3: You don't remember fruit stripe gum and the zebra. The 133 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: zebra was the Colory fruity showed a Yeah, I'm showing 134 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: you that it's a good radio bit, right, fruit stripe, 135 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: fruity stripe, bubble gum. 136 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: I do not the question, Fingers. 137 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: Moloy, is is this in your liquor cabinet? 138 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: Fingers withy, I believe I have it right. Forty nine 139 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: dollars ninety nine cents. Let's see what it's like with 140 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 3: a little bit of water in it. 141 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can appreciate that. 142 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: I don't want to make a harsh judgment here. I 143 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: need to reevaluate everything because for some reason I just 144 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 3: went into a Rye mode. And then I was all 145 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: confused because I was like, Okay, there's a spice there, 146 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: but it's not a Rye spice crab. And then you 147 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: corrected me and said, this is a weeded bourbon. 148 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: It's weed bourbon. It's a weeded so or what what 149 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: do you think? Do you need to have it on 150 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: a cube? 151 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: I absolutely have to have it on a cube. It's 152 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: so so sweet that little bit of spice hits and 153 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: then dissipates right there. 154 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely ten have to try that on a cube. See 155 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: if it's something we're going to do. 156 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: Some crimes are more awful than other crimes. Some crimes 157 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: need a bigger response, like stealing breakfast, stealing breakfast, stealing breakfast. 158 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: I had a joke. 159 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: It was right there the whitwell, and now the witwell 160 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: is dry. 161 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: Tea drink smoke. 162 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz, and that right there is witlessman malloy. 163 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 2: If I could only oh gosh, I ruined the dang joke. 164 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: I smell Marconi for this show here's the headline from 165 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 3: the New York Post. 166 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: Brazen thieves are walking into hotels and enjoying complimentary buffet 167 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 2: breakfasts and getting away with it. 168 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: My god, the humanity. 169 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: There are Reddit threads because Reddit has everything freeloaders who 170 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: talk about, you know, you can go to any mid 171 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: class hotel they call it a hampton In holiday in 172 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: days in Lakita right around time they start serving breakfast 173 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: and the lobby is empty, and you can be like, oh, yeah, 174 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: good morning, Oh what a night, And then you just 175 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: walk in and uh and take breakfast and people make 176 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: videos of themselves doing it. 177 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: First, arrest those people. 178 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: Arrest those people, jail for forever for those people, or 179 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: they all have to work the Sunday morning Mother's day. 180 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: Shift at ihop for the rest of their lives. It's 181 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: one or the other. 182 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 3: I just want to hear the conversation in the jail cell. 183 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 3: What are you in for? Armed robbery? What are you 184 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 3: in for? I stole an omelet from the hampton In. 185 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: Honestly, that's gonna get you beaten down for sure. Let's 186 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: say people do this, and we all know that people 187 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: do this. Of course people do this. There's not a question, 188 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 2: of course, right, I don't check to see, well are 189 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: you are you staying at this fine establishment? 190 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: Are you staying at the fine Hampton In. 191 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 2: I'm kind of hoping people think that I'm there to 192 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 2: steal the free breakfast, and I'm saying somewhere way nicer. 193 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: Well. 194 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: The other thing too, is once you check into a 195 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: hotel like that, you can leave with the key card 196 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: to the hotel and chances are it's going to have 197 00:10:55,160 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 3: some sort of corporate logo or whether it's Hilton or 198 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: Hampton In, and anybody asks you is flashed, Yeah, here's 199 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 3: my key card. Okay, like someone's gonna thank security. 200 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: We need to authenticate this key. No one has ever asked, 201 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: whereas they've never ever asked. 202 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: But this woman creates a TikTok video over five million views. 203 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: They make it so easy to get the free hotel 204 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: breakfast when you're not staying at a hotel. Now, anytime 205 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: you see a TikTok video, you have to assume this 206 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: is a scam. Anytime you see a TikTok video, you 207 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: have to assume that there's a whole Madame Cleo moment, 208 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: that the whole thing is a total fraud. 209 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: They just made it up to get clicks. 210 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: But if you video tape yourself stealing, it has to 211 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: be double the jail time. 212 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: Whatever the penalty is, double it. 213 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: I agree with you that you film that video if 214 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: you want to be some sort of TikTok personality at 215 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 3: a hotel you're staying at and you do it legit, 216 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 3: but then you tell everybody on the internet that no, 217 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 3: I was sneaky and I actually went in there and 218 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 3: I and I stole it. But you know what this 219 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: reminds me of. You remember, you know how there's for 220 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 3: a long time, since you know, TikTok started, there have 221 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: been these trends, whether it was a tiepot, tide pod stuff, 222 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: or the one that was really ridiculous. 223 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: The tie pod thing was ridiculous too. 224 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 3: But walking into a grocery store and opening up the 225 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: freezer of ice cream section, do you remember that? And 226 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: they would take they would open the ice cream like 227 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 3: the ice cream, take a scoop in their hand, and 228 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: then they close it and walk off and laugh and 229 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: then get shocked when someone tracks them down and arrest 230 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 3: them for it. This is the kind of stuff it 231 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 3: reminds me of. People are seeking out new ways to 232 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: get attention on TikTok and part of it tony to me, 233 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 3: not that I would ever in a million years criticize 234 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 3: social media influencers. 235 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: What being one yourself? Oh that's me. No, No, you're 236 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: not an influence. You monitor social media. 237 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 3: Outreg that's what I do. And then I'll show you 238 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: on AX. If you you look me up on x 239 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 3: profile at fingers moy, you will see that I'm a 240 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: fitness influencer. 241 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: It's the best. So he has this in his bio 242 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: and look at him. That's not happening. And he said, 243 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: calls hisselves a fitness influencer, and he. 244 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 2: Will get emails saying, hey, we think an influencer, influences 245 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 2: like you would be great to talk about this subject 246 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: with our guests, so and so. 247 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah all the time. 248 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 3: Or people pitch themselves to be on the radio show. 249 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: And it makes me laugh. 250 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: And laugh and laugh and laugh. 251 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: But uh, it is true I'm a fitness influencer. Because 252 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 3: it says so on the internet. Who cares that I 253 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 3: wrote that? 254 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: Right? 255 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: No, no, no, If it's on the internet, it must be true. 256 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 2: But I want this woman in jail. The people who 257 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 2: do the videos where they're they're prank videos and there, 258 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: and they're being violent towards people or trying to menace people. 259 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: I want you in jail. 260 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: Every time somebody fights back and those people get hurt 261 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: and they're screaming it was just a prank, and yet 262 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 2: they still get pummeled. I feel good. It's when they 263 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: scream it was just a prank and they don't get pummeled. 264 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: That's when I'm upset. And you say to me, Tony, 265 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: you're a violence loving guy. 266 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: Know. I think people who act like garbage and think that. 267 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: They are entitled to abuse others based on the social contract. 268 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: Right, someone's being a total freaking You're just like, dude, 269 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: stay away from me. I'm done here. And then they 270 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: want to profit off of that. No, no, no, where's 271 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: my profit. 272 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: My profit only comes from watching you absolutely lose a tooth, 273 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: just just some kind of wetting yourself or or other 274 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: type of a fluid leak. 275 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 3: Fluid leak, I for one can't help but think back 276 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 3: to when Allegor invented the Internet and the buzz, the 277 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 3: buzz around how the Internet was going to be a 278 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: huge positive influence on society humanity in general, and it 279 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 3: is now compared to back when it was invented. It's 280 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 3: starting to slide to where it's not negative based on 281 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 3: social media and and stuff like this, where you're thinking 282 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 3: back then, this is gonna benefit society, and then you 283 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 3: see this where you've got people contributing to the downfall 284 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 3: of society making it totally acceptable, sticking it to the 285 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 3: man going into the hotel and stealing the break. 286 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: Why we need to go at these people. 287 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: This woman should not be allowed five million views on 288 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: TikTok for engaging in a legal activity. She should be 289 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: arrested and forced into hard labor, and not hard labor 290 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: should be pay per. 291 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: Viewed and people who want to buy it can. 292 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: And that's how we get the restitution to the hotel 293 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: where she stole from. But the restitution has to be 294 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: four hundred times what it is that she stole, and 295 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: therefore there has to be some good labor because I 296 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: need something to laugh. 297 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 3: At, and that hard labor should be broadcast on TikTok. 298 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: No, it's it's like you are listening at. 299 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: All full circle circle of social media. 300 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: Why should she be rewarded Let's say not her TikTok. 301 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: Let's say let's say she made it up Why should 302 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: she be rewarded with. 303 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: Views, not her TikTok There are other TikTok accounts. 304 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: Is it wrong that I want her in jail? 305 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: No? 306 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,239 Speaker 1: Because I want her in jail. 307 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 3: I don't if this truly listen, we all know. 308 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: I want to be the kind of woman who cries 309 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: at her arraignment. So I can laugh and say that 310 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: was satisfying. 311 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 3: You just said that you want to be the kind 312 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 3: of woman that does that. 313 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: I want to be the kind of guy who sees 314 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 2: that woman do that. Honestly, I would be that kind 315 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 2: of woman who does that. Like that's how much I 316 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: want to see this. 317 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 3: Uh No, I I agree with you that someone like 318 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 3: this needs to be if it encourages this encourages this 319 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 3: type of behavior. We don't need more people stealing in 320 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. 321 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: We just need more people being normal in twenty twenty five. 322 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: Good luck with that. 323 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: Well, you throw a couple people in jail for when 324 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: they admit they broke the law, maybe we stand a chance. 325 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: Eat Drink smoke. 326 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: It is your cigar bourbon footy extravaganza, Antony Katz. 327 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: That is fingers below. 328 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: I find it all at Eat Drink Smoke show at 329 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: dot com and so you should. We are smoking these 330 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: cubans from Benito's tobacco farm, given to us by our 331 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: digital director Sarah, and it has been a lovely smoke. 332 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,239 Speaker 2: We don't have a price on these, We don't have 333 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: a makeup of a wrapper, binder filler these where we 334 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: estimate as five by fifty robustos. It has had this 335 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: this this bit of spice to it, It has had 336 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: this little bit of bite to it. 337 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying it's more mineral. You've argued that it's leather. 338 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,239 Speaker 2: I think it's kind of working its way into that 339 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: leather and maybe some maybe a little bit of even 340 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: hay even. 341 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: It's been a nice smoke, for sure. 342 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 2: It hasn't been my gosh, it's the greatest thing I've 343 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 2: ever smoked smoke. 344 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: But it's been a nice cigar. It has been. 345 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 3: I don't know if I would go great lengths to 346 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: get my hands on one, right, And. 347 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: Again, it's not because it's cuban. 348 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 2: It's that there are so many goods robustos that I 349 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 2: could grab in the nine to fourteen dollars category. 350 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: Yes, for sure, but. 351 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 3: It is definitely a cigar that, once you're done with it. 352 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 3: You can at least say to your friends, I just 353 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 3: smoked a cuban. 354 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: That is true. 355 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: And if you missed any of our conversations about cubans 356 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 2: and whether or not you should be doing it, be. 357 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: Sure to check out the podcast. 358 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: Subscribe wherever it is you get your podcasts Eat Drink 359 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 2: Smoke and of course Instagram Eat Drink Smoke, podcast, Facebook 360 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: Eat Drink Smoke, and Twitter x go Eat Drink Smoke and. 361 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: We are drinking travelers points here. 362 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: This is their weeded bourbon, coming in at ninety seven proof, 363 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: very very orange, had an interesting kind of spice to it, 364 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 2: created some heat in the cheek and a very dry 365 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: tongue finish for everything else still had that very sweet 366 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: in your candied orange. You added a little water to yours. 367 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: I added a cube to mine, kept it in the 368 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: glen cairnglass. That's water, right, So water brings down proof 369 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: and this was ninety seven proof age four years plus. 370 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: Water will bring out certain flavors, make certain flavors muted. 371 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: That's what it does. It opens up the bourbon. 372 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 3: I suggest that we get you a cube caddy, because 373 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 3: by the time you drop your cube in and we 374 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: get to talking, it's melted. 375 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: It is melted. It is melted. But I'm going in. 376 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: Okay, he's going in, ladies and gentlemen. He's going to 377 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 3: enjoy this weeded bourbon rye and that he is not happy, 378 00:19:55,400 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 3: not happy at all. I'm oh, hamanahamanahamanahamana, that's what I'm expecting. 379 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: What's talk to me, Talk to me, pally God, that 380 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: got bitter. Really, it wiped out all of the orange, 381 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 2: and the orange is now. 382 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: On the finish. That's not right. It's not the way 383 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: nature intended it. Okay. 384 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: Oh oh, by the way, I think one of the 385 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: flavors you're you're like is is that I forget what 386 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 2: you said it was, what the flavor was. 387 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: I think there is a little bit of cocoa going 388 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: on in there. I'm not. 389 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: It's not a coffee. It's if there is an oak. 390 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 2: It's it's very very very subtle. 391 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: That did not it did. It played better neat, but 392 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: it was just too sweet for me. Neat. 393 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: Uh. 394 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: That did not play well in a cube at all. 395 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 3: So you're saying that whatever coffee that is to you, 396 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 3: it's hitting you like Folgers crystals. 397 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: If it was Folger's crystals, I'd be happy. That's chockful 398 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: of nuts. It's never unfunny. He's taking his sip. He 399 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: had it a little bit of water again, just open 400 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: it up. See what you I'm not insane, am I? 401 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: The why is weird? Like it took away all the 402 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: fun stuff? Is that soap? Dude? We're just being rude 403 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: at this point? Can we not? Can we not be rude? 404 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: But it did. 405 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: It took away everything that was super interesting about the bourbon. 406 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: And it was very very sweet. Like I'm not I 407 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: don't like it that sweet. 408 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: I want more oak. But I could see how neat 409 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: some people would do it. I could totally get that. 410 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,479 Speaker 1: The cube experience has just been horrific. I wonder if 411 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: I got to put more in there. 412 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: Maybe the problem is it's too deluded while I'm putting 413 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: it in the Glenn Cairen glass and I gotta really. 414 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: Fill a poor in a Rocks glass in order to 415 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: get your right. Yeah all right, oh yeah, fine, you 416 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: say that. 417 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 3: No, I'm I'm fine, And I regret saying beause that's 418 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 3: soap because I went for hum. It was a cheap shot. 419 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 3: It was a cheap shot, and I apologize, and I apologize, 420 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 3: but I'm at a no for in my liquor cabinet. 421 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 2: It's forty nine ninety nine. I am also a no neat. 422 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 2: It is actually an interesting drink that that orange. 423 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: Is everywhere it was. 424 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: It was a little overwhelming for me and I got 425 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: more ethanol in the nose than Fingers, who got absolutely nothing. 426 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: But I think I got to try it Rocks, Glass Cube, 427 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 2: Big Rock and see if that makes a difference, because 428 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 2: it took away the suite that made it interesting and 429 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: just left it as it left. 430 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: It bitter and that is just not absolutely not where 431 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: I want to be. I want to get to News 432 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: of the Week. 433 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: The question is do you want to do it now 434 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 2: how we were going to do it, or do you 435 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: want to do it in a little bit Fingers Maloy, 436 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 2: how do you how do you want to hit this? 437 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: Why don't we just go ahead and dive right in 438 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: and if we have to touch on it in the 439 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 3: next day as well, we'll continue this. 440 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 2: As we discussed, this has been a week, not only 441 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 2: the week of the twenty fourth anniversary of September eleventh, 442 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: but the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Now we don't really 443 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: engage politics on the show here Charlie Kirk found a 444 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: turning point USA on the political rights would do those 445 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 2: college tours in encouraging college students. He had a really 446 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 2: incredible following, truly incredible. He was speaking at Utah Valley University. 447 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 2: He was shot as we're speaking to you. The suspect 448 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: has still not been apprehended. The video of the shooting 449 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 2: is horrific, and he died. 450 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: He was thirty one. 451 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: He leaves behind a wife and two very small children. 452 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: Fingers Moilloy and I have been in this movement, political 453 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 2: movement for years. How we met, how we know each other, 454 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: and we have both spoken an event, and we have 455 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: both spoken in front of large crowds and small crowds, 456 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 2: and we would never think anybody would believe that we 457 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 2: would have the popularity of Charlie Kirk. That said, everybody 458 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: who is in our world, in the political world, is 459 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: looking at this and saying, my god, this does indeed 460 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: change at all, And everyone says everyone can be a target. 461 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,959 Speaker 2: We're all fully aware of this. This isn't like speaking 462 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: and saying, oh, well is us. This is a horrifying 463 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 2: thing that took place. Some of the reactions are even 464 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: more horrifying, but I think the first thing here is 465 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 2: that to the extent that political assassinations or attempted assassinations happened, 466 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: like we saw in President Trump in twenty twenty four Butler, Pennsylvania, 467 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 2: there's a history of that in the United States. Political commentator. 468 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 2: The rubicon has been crossed fingers and that's where you've 469 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 2: been on this subject with the true belief that nothing's. 470 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: Going to be the same. 471 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 3: No, nothing is going to be the same, especially if 472 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 3: you are in any kind of work that involves sharing 473 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 3: your opinion online or on the radio. Charlie Kirk had 474 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 3: his radio show he you know, like you said, he 475 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: did these these college tours. We have talked on several 476 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 3: occasions about what is going on in college campuses right now. 477 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 3: The hecket's gotten to the point where comedians, they're not 478 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 3: worried about violence, but they're worried to go on college 479 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: campuses today because of the negative reaction you get from 480 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 3: telling a joke. We have no idea if this was 481 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 3: this the shooter was actually affiliated with the University of 482 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 3: It was a student or not so far, like you said, 483 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 3: As we are broadcasting at this time, there has been 484 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 3: a photo released in the description of the shooter said 485 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 3: that he looks like he's college age. That's able to 486 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 3: you know, to be able to blend in with the 487 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 3: people on the campus. But like you said, that's all 488 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: we have. But you know, I can't help think over 489 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: the years of the people that I've talked to, the 490 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: people that I've interacted with, who I've become friends with, 491 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 3: and I can't help but think about how this changes 492 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 3: everything and how they feel about their personal safety and 493 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 3: their families as well. And of course, our hearts, our 494 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 3: thoughts and our prayers go out to Charlie's family. Like 495 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 3: you said, he married with two small children. 496 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: I do want to dig in a little bit more. 497 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: We're gonna take a little bit of time with this 498 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: about how the effect is personal, because I. 499 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: Don't think it is. 500 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: Relegated to well, the rubicon has been crossed and it 501 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 2: could be any of us. I argue it could be 502 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 2: any of us in a much grander, grander sense that 503 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: it can clearly and easily be not just somebody who 504 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: speaks on radio or podcasts, but someone who posts on 505 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 2: social media, eat, drink, smoke. Tony Katz Fingers malloy as 506 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: we discussed what happened in Utah and the assassination of 507 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk. Now, I think first it's kind of gotten 508 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,959 Speaker 2: people a little bit weird about you take somebody who 509 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 2: isn't the politician, isn't the world leader. Charlie Kirk was 510 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 2: killed while speaking at Utah Valley University, and people say assassination. 511 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: But that's very much seems to be what it is. 512 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 2: This wasn't a mugging, this wasn't a robbery. This wasn't 513 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 2: you know, a stabbing. This was somebody who was on 514 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: a rooftop. We know that part for fact, there was 515 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: a single action, a bolt action rifle. I should say 516 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 2: we know that part for fact, there are things inscribed 517 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 2: on the ammunition on the showcasings. 518 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: We know that for fact that all had political ties 519 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: to it. 520 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: So since he was clearly killed for something political, political belief, 521 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: political philosophy, political support of the political right, I think 522 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 2: assassination applies here. 523 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: I think that you can utilize the term. 524 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 2: I was making the points just before, and if you 525 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: missed any part of this, the podcast is therefore you 526 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 2: wherever it is you get your podcasts. Fingers mologne that 527 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 2: this isn't just about those of us on radio Look, 528 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 2: we've talked about safety and security at events that I do. 529 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 2: You know, I have events here in Central Indiana. We 530 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,719 Speaker 2: have a few hundred people, two three hundred people at 531 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 2: every event. I've got police there. I absolutely have that 532 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: at every event I do. It is now written into 533 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: events I do, it must be provided me. I'm I'm 534 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 2: not in any way big enough for that, except it 535 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: has to happen now. The no amount of security was 536 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 2: going to stop this guy. This guy perched up on 537 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: a roof and had an angle and everything else. You 538 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: would have had to have bulletproof glass and all sorts 539 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: of things to try and stop this. 540 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: But I don't think that this new phase, fingers is. 541 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 2: Just about those of us who might be in a 542 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: more of a public eye speaking about political things or 543 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: cultural things. 544 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: Anybody who he drinks smoke nation, who writes. 545 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 2: A Facebook post that somebody else doesn't like or finds offensive, 546 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: aren't I mean, that's what we're saying here, and with 547 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: a bunch of people not really condemning this in any 548 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: level of strong way. Some have on both sides of 549 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: the aisle. Some on one side of the aisle have 550 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: cheered it. It's been really ugly. Some have just kind 551 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: of said, well, there's a guy by named Matthew Dowd 552 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: who appears on MSNBC, and he said an hour after 553 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: this happened, well, if you say hateful things, you should 554 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 2: spectatful things to happen. He got fired by MSNBC and 555 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: good on MSNBC for doing so. But this can play 556 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: to anybody who's making a statement somewhere or putting a 557 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: post up somewhere. 558 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, because also in twenty twenty five, what has happened 559 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 3: is what used to be considered lively debate, rhetoric and 560 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 3: lively debate maybe twenty years ago, has now been twisted 561 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: into saying, if you're having a lively debate, if your 562 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 3: words are words that I disagree with, that's hate and 563 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 3: that's hateful. You package that in a way that makes 564 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 3: honest political dialogue and debate into hate speech, then that 565 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 3: takes you down a path where some say to themselves, 566 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: if this person is hateful, something should be done about that. 567 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 3: It's really troubling. And social media. We joke about social 568 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 3: media all the time. YEA, social media has made this 569 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 3: so much worse? 570 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: Is this the reason to walk from it? Do you 571 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: walk from social media at the stage of the game. 572 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: Is there any value in it because there are people 573 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 2: still profiting of it, people still sharing on it, and 574 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: maybe while you're there you can kind of. 575 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: Counter some of the madness. 576 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 3: It depends on how good you are at using social 577 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 3: media and filters. If you're getting a I get on 578 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 3: Instagram a lot for food recipes. If you want to 579 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 3: filter out Democrat, Republican name, whatever hot button issue, you 580 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: can do that, filter out those words and hopefully that 581 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 3: will adjust your feed. If you feel like you need 582 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 3: to take a break from that part of social media 583 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 3: but still need to get your social media fixed, I 584 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 3: would argue that while I think it is good to 585 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 3: do that from time to time, you can't fully ignore 586 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 3: what's going on in the world and how people are 587 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 3: talking to each other. I don't think that that is 588 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 3: beneficial either, because you're just putting your head in the sand. 589 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: Did social media make things worse? 590 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 2: Or did social media allow the bad people to more 591 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: amplify the horrific voice. We're not talking about whether or 592 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 2: not we agree with each other. That is not the 593 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 2: argument that either one of us are making. Disagree with 594 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: me politically, all you wish it is fine, it is 595 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: saying that somehow I'm keeping us from democracy. I want 596 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: to destroy the country. It's calling me a Nazi. And 597 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: every time you call the Jewish guy a Nazi. It's 598 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: super weird, but it happens all the time. Sometimes before 599 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 2: six point thirty in the morning, someone's like, just good morning. 600 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: Nazi, and you're like, I just I haven't I haven't 601 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: had coffee yet. How are you? How do you have 602 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: this time? 603 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 3: Don't even call me Nazi until I have my first 604 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 3: cup of coffee. 605 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: True enough, fact. 606 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 2: It's it's I don't blame social media to the extent 607 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: that there have always been terrible people. You can talk 608 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: about social media emboldening terrible people though, giving them space 609 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 2: to move and operate. But we also see it on 610 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 2: cable news, and we also see it in print, and 611 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: we also see it in culture. 612 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 3: I would argue that it was a one two punch 613 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 3: of social media and COVID. COVID was the steroids to 614 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 3: all of this, and it feels like people's behavior has 615 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 3: gotten ten times worse on social social media after the 616 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 3: whole COVID and COVID lockdown, you know that we went through. 617 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 3: It feels like an emboldened people to not have that 618 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 3: filter that they used to have and say, Okay, listen, 619 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 3: I'm really angry right now, but I don't want to 620 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 3: put this out on the internet, and went from that 621 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 3: to it feels like after that happened, I'm putting every 622 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 3: angry thought. Every time I'm bothered, I'm throwing it on 623 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 3: social media and I don't care what anybody thinks. 624 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: So again I go back to this cultural issue of 625 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 2: people believing then because they feel a certain way, other 626 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 2: people have to act a certain way, and I don't 627 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 2: believe that to be true. You can't say that it 628 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 2: offends me. My job is not to worry about your offense. 629 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 2: What offends me is not being able to speak freely. 630 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: That offends me. 631 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 2: And if you don't care about that and I don't 632 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 2: care about you, that's actually the way it's supposed to work. 633 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 2: There's a real unique argument for the value of selfishness 634 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 2: in a free society. You get to say what you 635 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: want to say. I get to say what I want 636 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 2: to say. I can't encourage people to harm you. You 637 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 2: can't encourage people to harm me. 638 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,240 Speaker 1: We do have rules. 639 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 2: We are not a nation of free speech absolutism. There 640 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: are certain rules to the road. But the issue, I 641 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:09,439 Speaker 2: think is the fostering of this idea that your feelings matter, 642 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 2: they count, no one can discount them. Mean, you can 643 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 2: speak about the mantime you want, and here's how you feel, 644 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 2: here's what this person's doing. It's not real, but it's 645 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 2: how you win an election. It's not real, but it's 646 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 2: how you gin up opposition to them. And we have 647 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 2: This is the part going back to George Bush, going 648 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 2: back to how the George Bush I'll gore. 649 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 1: Election went and hanging chads and all that jazz. 650 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 2: I think that's where you lead to the birth of 651 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: this newest insanity, which twenty five years later is now 652 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 2: leading to people being assassinated while speaking and debating a 653 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 2: crowd of thousands. 654 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 3: And what's sad is you ask yourself, what is it 655 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 3: going to take to turn the temperature down? And I 656 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 3: don't think that it's ever gonna get better. 657 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: I'm with you. 658 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 2: It's not that I don't think it's ever gonna get better. 659 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 2: It's just that I don't think there is anything to turn. 660 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: It's the switch. 661 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 2: I believe that the only way out is through, and 662 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 2: we're in the dark time right now in this and 663 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 2: the only way to get through it is to keep 664 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 2: being rational, keep being normal, head on a swivel. The 665 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: people who do this stuff need to be prosecuted in 666 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 2: ways we can't even describe. And you got to teach 667 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 2: your kids that it's okay if somebody disagrees with you, 668 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 2: it's absolutely okay. It's not the end of society, and 669 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 2: those people should not be hurt. Sometimes you have to 670 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: teach it to your sister in law too, that's fact. 671 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: The Travelers point. 672 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 2: We did Bourbon forty nine to ninety nine a bottle. 673 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 2: If you like that orange, try it neat for sure, 674 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 2: enjoy that. Find everything we do at EA Drink Smoke 675 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 2: show dot com. 676 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: This is Etrink Smoke