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Speaker 1: to like because I like the dude. But I'm walking

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Speaker 1: into the Colt scheme yesterday and another member of the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis media stops me at the elevator during the twenty

435
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Speaker 1: six minutes that we are waiting for one of the

436
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Speaker 1: two elevators in a building that was built for seven

437
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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five million dollars and has sixty eight

438
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Speaker 1: thousand people in it. So I'm waiting for the elevator

439
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Speaker 1: and a member of one of my brethren from the

440
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Speaker 1: local media comes up to me and says, you said

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Speaker 1: something on the radio the other day that blew me away.

442
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Speaker 1: And I said, oh, okay, well thank you. What was that?

443
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Speaker 1: And they said, you mentioned on the radio that something

444
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Speaker 1: that I almost feel like maybe I should see if

445
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Speaker 1: you need a ride home in case, like you still

446
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Speaker 1: believe this. And I said, well, what's that? So please

447
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 1: tell me. I didn't hear you say on the radio

448
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Speaker 1: that you think that Braden Smith is the best player

449
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Speaker 1: in college basketball. And I said, well, they're the best

450
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Speaker 1: team in college basketball, and you know it is Fernando

451
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Speaker 1: Mendoza the best player in college football. Is Julian saying

452
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 1: the best player in college football? I don't know, but

453
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: they are seemingly the top two finalists for the award

454
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Speaker 1: that is given every year to the best player in

455
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Speaker 1: college football for the Player of the Year in college football.

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Speaker 1: And why is that, Well, because they're the two best

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Speaker 1: teams in college football, and they're the two quarterbacks of

458
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: those two teams. And if you look at college basketball,

459
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Speaker 1: who is the best team in college basketball? It is Purdue.

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Speaker 1: Who is the best player on produced team? Yeah, maybe

461
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Speaker 1: it's Traykoff mon Ren, Sure, okay, but the quarterback of

462
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Speaker 1: the team, the leader of the team, the heartbeat of

463
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: the team is a point guard, and a point guard

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Speaker 1: in Braden Smith who not only has been there for

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Speaker 1: and already has you know, are there better players? Is

466
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Speaker 1: Boozer better at Duke? Maybe? Is a kid at b

467
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: Why you better at Maybe? But I do know this,

468
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Speaker 1: Like virtually every media outlet from a national standpoint at

469
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year tapped Braiden Smith as the

470
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Speaker 1: preseason player of the year. I don't think it's my

471
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Speaker 1: point being yeah, sure, you can make an argument for

472
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: five to eight guys for the best player in college basketball.

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Speaker 1: But to say that it's Braiden Smith of Purdue and

474
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Speaker 1: then be like, you know, literally like want to go

475
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Speaker 1: do an IQ test for that and a cognitive test

476
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 1: is like, yeah, I don't think it's that far off base, right,

477
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: But the notion of yeah, Michigan is really good, Michigan

478
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: State's really good. There's a lot of really good teams

479
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Speaker 1: in the Big Ten. But I think that Purdue, we

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Speaker 1: can now say, or you can safely look at it

481
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Speaker 1: and say, based on precedent that they are one that

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Speaker 1: you feel good about the fact that they are going

483
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Speaker 1: to be towards the top of the conference in the

484
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Speaker 1: country over the course of the season. On the football

485
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: side of things, you now know that there is a

486
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Speaker 1: championship game. Me now on the Joba House Peel and

487
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: poor guest line. He has the voice of the Indiana Hoosiers,

488
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: Don Fisher joining us. Don, I want to make sure

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Speaker 1: first and foremost, because I'm going to drop something on

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Speaker 1: you here that's gonna I want to make sure you're

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Speaker 1: sitting down. I don't want to you know you are

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Speaker 1: sitting down, correct, I'm sitting in a chair yet, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to make a statement for you, Don, and

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Speaker 1: then you know, I just want you to take a

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Speaker 1: second to absorb it and give me your reaction to it, Okay, And.

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Speaker 6: Just don't tell me it's going to be one of

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Speaker 6: your predictions.

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Speaker 1: It's not a prediction, I promise you. Okay, It's a fact.

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Speaker 1: It is a fact. Don. The Indiana Hoosiers are not

500
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: only undefeated in college football, the Indiana Hoosiers are getting

501
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: ready to play at Lucas Oil Stadium in the championship

502
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: game of the Big Ten Football Conference. Now, I know

503
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: that you've witnessed it. You've seen it, you've been up

504
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: close and personal. But don even still when you sit back,

505
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: isn't there still a part of you that says, this

506
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: is unbelievably wonderful and at the same time still surreal.

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00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 6: Well, it seems that way, Jake, But I watched last

508
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 6: year what this guy did in his first season in Indiana,

509
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 6: and so it doesn't shock me what we've seen this year.

510
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 6: And the reason it doesn't is because I've watched him coach.

511
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 6: I've watched him in the spring, I've watched him the fall,

512
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 6: I've watched him during games. I just think the guy

513
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 6: is a football genius. And I say that because of

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Speaker 6: how he runs his program. I mean, I'm not saying

515
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Speaker 6: that he is the best X and O guy in

516
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Speaker 6: the world or things like that, but he he is

517
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Speaker 6: a genius when it comes to running a foot program.

518
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Speaker 6: And I don't go beyond that point because I know

519
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 6: he hires really good people. On top of that, he's

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00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 6: smart enough to know that you've got to have really

521
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 6: good people that are on the same page as you are,

522
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Speaker 6: and all these guys that have been with him for

523
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 6: so long now, all have bought in to exactly what

524
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Speaker 6: he's selling. And that's just like the player so that

525
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 6: he brings to Indiana, he makes sure he vets them

526
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Speaker 6: all and then he figures out Yep, that's the guy

527
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Speaker 6: I want. That's the guy that I'm not sure about.

528
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 6: That's the guy I'm not going to want at all.

529
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Speaker 6: He just really really smart and how he runs his

530
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Speaker 6: football program. And that's why this doesn't seem that's surreal

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Speaker 6: to me because I've wanted to go on for two

532
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Speaker 6: years now.

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Speaker 1: Don one of the things that happened late in the game,

534
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Speaker 1: and I wanted you to to add to this, okay,

535
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Speaker 1: because again you've seen it. I mean you're there and

536
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: the practices and other such things. You know, here you

537
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: have the bucket game, and we know it's a rivalry

538
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: game and everything that goes into it. But for Mendoza,

539
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: all of the Heisman talk and a lot of the

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00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: talk in the last couple of weeks, notably of even him,

541
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Speaker 1: you know, doing interviews, and I get it, the campaign

542
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,959
Speaker 1: for the Heisman by the university, as it should be.

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Speaker 1: But in that game on national television on you know,

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Speaker 1: the Friday after Thanksgiving and you're playing your rival in Purdue,

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00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: and from an individual statistical standpoint, it wasn't a game

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Speaker 1: that blew you away. In Mendoza's numbers. He didn't throw

547
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Speaker 1: for three ninety and five touchdowns or whatever else. He

548
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: was effective and they won that game. And then he's

549
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: off after the game or after the game was decided. Essentially,

550
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: they showed him on the sidelines and he's laughing with

551
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: his teammates, and he's soaking it in and he's watching

552
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: his little brother get big runs and he's high fiving guys.

553
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: And I thought to myself, here's a guy that doesn't

554
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Speaker 1: care a hill of beans about what his individual numbers

555
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: were or what might have or have not taken place

556
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: for his individual accolade, because he's watching his team and

557
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: his brother and everything else soundly defeat Arrival and secure

558
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: themselves a Big Ten championship. And to me, that encapsulated

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Speaker 1: what has been so unique about this team. Now, can

560
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: you tell me more about Mendoza as a guy or

561
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: as a young man that that does makes it so

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Speaker 1: that it's not surprising to you to see that sort

563
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: of a selflessness on the sidelines, and how that carries

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Speaker 1: into Indiana football.

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Speaker 6: Well, and here's the thing about it, Jake, this is

566
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 6: exactly what Kurt Signetti preaches. It's all about team. It's

567
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 6: all about team first. It's not about your numbers. It's

568
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 6: not about the guy over there that's sitting in the

569
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 6: corner grumping about stuff. Because they don't have that at Indiana,

570
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 6: not anymore. They used to have it, trust me, they

571
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 6: used to have it a lot. But they don't have

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Speaker 6: it anymore because of Signetti. And first of all, Bernevandoz

573
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 6: a great young man, and his work ethic is beyond

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Speaker 6: the norm. It's way beyond the norm. And there are

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Speaker 6: a lot of guys in this football team exactly the

576
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 6: same way. It's a ball club that has a bunch

577
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 6: of character guys first and then second, do they care

578
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 6: about their teammates? Do they care about everybody else that's

579
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 6: around the program. And you see that with this basketball

580
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 6: team too, I'm not kidding. You see the same kind

581
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Speaker 6: of kids that Darren Debreees is brought in that Kurt

582
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 6: Signetti brought in. It's so amazing and it's so much

583
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 6: fun to be a part of Number one because when

584
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 6: you get around these guys and you get talking to them.

585
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 6: We don't get tons of time to talk with these players,

586
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 6: especially the football players, because of practice time and those

587
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 6: kinds of things, and the fact that they've got helmets

588
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 6: on and you don't recognize half of them sometimes because

589
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 6: you're just not around them that much with their helmets off,

590
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 6: so you can recognize them. But my point is they're

591
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 6: just really good people on top of everything else as

592
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 6: good players, they're really good people. And that's one of

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00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 6: the reasons I think this team is being successful right now,

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Speaker 6: and that's why I think the basketball team is going

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Speaker 6: to be the same way.

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Speaker 1: Don From a football standpoint, against Ohio State, when you

597
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: look at you know in Indiana has one they've won

598
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: soundly and virtually every game, although they had a couple

599
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: obviously Penn State and Iowa where they had to dig

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00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: deep down and make plays and they did that. But

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00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: what area to you is still the one that if

602
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: I always say, when a team loses a game, sometimes

603
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: it's a microcosm of the little things that might have

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00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 1: been an issue over the course of the season. From

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Speaker 1: an x's and o's standpoint, Indiana's vulnerability would be what.

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Speaker 6: Well, I just don't think they could survive any kind

607
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 6: of key injuries, if you know what I'm saying, right,

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Speaker 6: I don't mean that that Alberto couldn't take over for Fernando.

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00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 6: I don't mean that, you know, Drew Evans we think

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00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 6: is going to come back here, is he get hurt again?

611
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 6: Is that going to kill Indiana situation? I don't. I

612
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 6: just don't know if our depth, if Indiana's depth is

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Speaker 6: what you see at Ohio State, and I'm sure that

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00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 6: it's not, because I know how the program feels about

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00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 6: the depth that they have, and I think in a

616
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 6: lot of places they do have enough depth, but there

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Speaker 6: are there are some spots that they don't. You don't

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00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 6: point those out, those vulnerabilities out, even as a sportscaster,

619
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Speaker 6: if you know what I mean. But the fact of

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00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 6: the matter is, injuries are the killer of a really

621
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 6: good football team that doesn't have a lot of depth.

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Speaker 6: And I think that's the one vulnerability this team has

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Speaker 6: at this point now on the field itself. I'm not

624
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 6: sure they have any vulnerabilities in the sense that are

625
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 6: going to get them beat unless they turn the ball over.

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00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 6: That's always going to be a question mark. If you

627
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 6: can't hang out of the football. If you have turned

628
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 6: over two or three times in a ball game, that

629
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 6: may cut your throat. But other than that, I just

630
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 6: don't see a lot of vulnerabilities with this team. I

631
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 6: think they've got really good players in the offensive line,

632
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 6: that they got really good players in the defensive line.

633
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 6: They've got great linebackers, They've got really good defensive backs,

634
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 6: They've got really good offensive running backs. I mean, they

635
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 6: have all the tools, Jake. If they didn't, they wouldn't

636
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 6: be in this position.

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Speaker 1: Don do you like, you know Ohio State? The reality

638
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: is Ohio State in the receiving corps is elite, right,

639
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Ayana's not Ohio States. Is you know,

640
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: State's got guy that seemingly could play on Sunday like

641
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: this Sunday. Right. But with that said, do you like

642
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: Indiana defensively? Do you feel that they are better at

643
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: pass rush from the defensive line and getting to and

644
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: making a quarterback uncomfortable or their defensive backfield and their

645
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: corner's ability to obviously stymy and seal guys off when

646
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Speaker 1: they try to get open.

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Speaker 6: Well, I don't know that anybody's got a better defensive

648
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 6: back than D'Angelo Pons. He is just terrific. He plays

649
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 6: the short side of the field all the time, but

650
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 6: he makes play after play. I love the way he

651
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 6: plays the game. When you want to look at vulnerabilities,

652
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 6: you have to find a real weakness with a football team,

653
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Speaker 6: and I don't think Indiana has that at this point.

654
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 6: So I know I'm not answering your question exactly the

655
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 6: way you've liked, But I just don't see this football

656
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 6: team doing what they did last year. I don't think

657
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 6: they're going to make the same kind of as I

658
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 6: pray that they don't make the same kind of bakes

659
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 6: as they made last year against Ohio State when they

660
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 6: played them, you know, when they played them in Columbus.

661
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 6: Those two mistakes they made and the special teams in

662
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 6: the punt game killed them. It just killed them because

663
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 6: that last the first mistake was just before halftime. Indiana

664
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 6: was right there with Ohio State, had them tied going

665
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 6: into the locker room at halftime, and punt snap was

666
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 6: fumbled by the punter, the ball gets away. Ohio State

667
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 6: recovers at seven, and they scored two plays later, and

668
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 6: that was fourteen to seven. Now you go to the

669
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Speaker 6: locker room and the airs out of the balloon a

670
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 6: little bit. Now, granted, this is a team that can

671
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 6: bounce back. But then in the second half, what happened.

672
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 6: They get the ball first, they are one, two, three

673
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 6: and out. You've got a punt again. They punt the

674
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 6: ball and another mistake has made. It was punted to

675
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 6: the wrong area of the field when it was supposed

676
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 6: to go on the left side. It went on the

677
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 6: right side, or the right side, it was supposed to

678
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 6: go on the left, whatever the case may be. And

679
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 6: that ball was run back for a touchdown. And now

680
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 6: you are in hurry up scatterbrain, not scatterbrain, but just

681
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 6: a hurry up scenario that now we got to make plays,

682
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 6: and we got to make them fast, and you're behind

683
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 6: the eight ball because you're down two touchdowns.

684
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: Don Don Fisher was the killer. Don Fisher is my

685
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: guest on the Job House Peel and Port guest line.

686
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: He is the voice of the Indiana Hoosiers, All right, Don.

687
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: I remember years ago David Robinson was coming out of

688
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: Navy going into the NBA, and on draft night, I

689
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: remember him saying, my biggest problem in life right now

690
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: is whether to get cool ranch or nacho cheese. Doritos,

691
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: and I thought, man, that's got to be a pretty

692
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: good way to live. Now this is along those same lines.

693
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Speaker 1: This is the kind of problem for Don Fisher. That's

694
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: a good thing. It's the same level of boy. That's

695
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: a good predicament to have. Because on Saturday, you've got

696
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: Indiana and Louisville undefeated. Indiana and I know that they get.

697
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: You got Minnesota before then. Okay, but the Indiana Hoosiers

698
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: and Louisville in basketball at Gambridge field House at two o'clock.

699
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: Then the Big Tenchi hampitship game football on Saturday across

700
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: the street, essentially Lucas Oil Stadium. I'd like to know

701
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: the Don Fisher plan of attack here? Do you just

702
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: start popping throat lozenges? Now do you get? Do you

703
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: call in the reserves? What's the game plan?

704
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 6: Well, if we have to call in the reserves, that

705
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 6: means that the voice is gone. So no, I'm planning

706
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 6: on doing botball games without question. I want to do that.

707
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 6: The only thing that would put a stop to that

708
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 6: would be a cold or something like that, and I've

709
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 6: been battling that for all the entire fall a ready,

710
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Speaker 6: So no, I plan on doing both ball games. My

711
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 6: voice held up pretty well this past weekend because I

712
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 6: got about filve hours sleep before I had to do

713
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Speaker 6: a basketball game on Saturday afternoon after the Friday night

714
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Speaker 6: football game, which I didn't get home until two o'clock

715
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Speaker 6: in the morning, so I had to get up early

716
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 6: and do a noon ball game and a pregame show

717
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 6: at eleven. So I felt like I handled that pretty well,

718
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 6: and I don't think there'll be a big problem unless

719
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 6: I can't get from Gabridge Fieldhouse so Lucas Oil Stadium

720
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Speaker 6: because of traffic.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, you just walked right across Maryland.

722
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: Just walk right across. Catch one of the little handsome

723
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Speaker 1: cabs whatever it might be. But Don, I'm telling you

724
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Speaker 1: from an Indiana standpoint, this past weekend to me is

725
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: always such a special weekend in downtown Indie, just the

726
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: lighting of the tree and you know, the festivities of

727
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: the holidays in the high school football finals. But this

728
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: weekend upcoming is going to be special as well, because

729
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: from basketball and then the football standpoint get to be

730
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Speaker 1: electric for Indiana fans downtown, and of course we look

731
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Speaker 1: forward to the radio call for both of them, Don,

732
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: for both of them, coming up on Saturday Minnesota as well,

733
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Speaker 1: by the way, seven o'clock with the Hoosiers from the

734
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Speaker 1: basketball standpoint that game Wednesday night right for Indiana Minnesota.

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Speaker 6: Yep, Indiana Minnesota on Wednesday night. And of course we've

736
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Speaker 6: got inside AU Basketball with coach Devreese to night at

737
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Speaker 6: seven oh five.

738
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Speaker 1: Don we appreciate the time, as always, start taking the

739
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Speaker 1: throat laws and just now, trust.

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Speaker 6: Me, they've been and I've got a full box of

741
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 6: like twenty four of those little square things.

742
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: So there you go. All right, don appreciate it. Thanks, guys,

743
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Speaker 1: appreciate I have DoD Fisher, the voice of the Hoosiers,

744
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: joining us on the program. By the way, speaking of

745
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: college football, I got a question about that that I

746
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: want to ask Eddie next. And we still have yet

747
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: to get to your twelve words to describe the Colts

748
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: season so far, some great answers that I will get

749
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Speaker 1: to just before Mike Chapple joins us in twelve wo

750
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Speaker 1: So yesterday I asked, as I always do after each

751
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: Colts game, tell me in and then I use. However

752
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: many games the Colts have played twelve words or fewer,

753
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the Colts twenty twenty five season through

754
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: twelve games. Now, as I was reading this, I was

755
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: also pondering a question about college football that Eddie, you

756
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: can answer real quick. You're ready, Okay. I was going

757
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: through these answers, but I did have this college football

758
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: question that popped into my head with my add yesterday

759
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: as well. Uh, huh, why do we do this? And

760
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: why does anybody care about Lane Kiffin?

761
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 5: What do you mean?

762
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: H exactly that? Why is like Lane Kiffin annually in

763
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: his whereabouts a big deal? Is he won something that

764
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm unfamiliar?

765
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Speaker 5: No, I think he's one of those next budding coaches.

766
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,720
Speaker 1: But he has been for like fifteen years.

767
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I mean he's been at USC, he's been

768
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Speaker 5: at You're thinking at Lincoln Riley.

769
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Speaker 1: No, lane Kiffin was at USC. So it was Lincoln Riley.

770
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Speaker 1: But lane Kiffin, I'm certain of this. I'm not hallucinating, right,

771
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: Wasn't Lane Kiffin? Didn't He go from the NFL and

772
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: eventually he was at USC and then he left USC

773
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Speaker 1: and he went to Alabama as an assistant.

774
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Speaker 5: He was a position at US. Yeah, and then he

775
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 5: went to where was he what was his first college?

776
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 5: He was at USC in ten twenty thirteen. Yeah, I

777
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 5: forgot about that.

778
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Speaker 1: He was at Tennessee and then he bolted on Tennessee

779
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: and then he at one point at USC and then

780
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: he went to Alabama to rejumpstart things as an assistant,

781
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: and then he went to the Florida Atlantic International. And

782
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: nobody can ever tell if it's a difference between Florida

783
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: International and Florida Atlantic, but it's one of those Florida

784
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Speaker 1: A and M Florida Atlantic, Florida International, Florida Directional schools.

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00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 5: I forgot about.

786
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Speaker 1: And then he got rejumped from there, and then he

787
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: went to Old miss and like everywhere he goes. I

788
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: mean he I don't dislike the guy per Se, but

789
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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, so LSU and I think Brian Kelly

790
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: is a jerk, but Lsu is willing to pony up

791
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: seventy five million to buy him out and send him

792
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Speaker 1: on his way in order to get Lane Kiffin. Okay,

793
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: that feels to me like trading a Camaro for a

794
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: Dodge Charger.

795
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 5: Oh okay, only time would tell, but we'd make this

796
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 5: like like.

797
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Speaker 1: If if Nick Saban when he was at Alabama was

798
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: contemplating leaving Alabama, I get the NonStop coverage if I mean,

799
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Speaker 1: for that matter, if Ryan Day is going to leave

800
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: Ohio State, I get the NonStop coverage. But when Lane Kiffin,

801
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 1: I'm just like, what am I'm missing here?

802
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 5: You also have to consider the fact the allegiance of

803
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 5: the of the of ESPN fair towards the SEC.

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Speaker 1: I get it. And he's like, the bigger thing is

805
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: this with Lane Kiffin. He's a good looking dude who

806
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: had a hot wife and his dad was an NFL coach.

807
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: That sells a lot better than he was a four

808
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: time state champion in the state of Florida and then

809
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: got a job at Florida State, you know what I mean.

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00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 5: And he's got a nice personality.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's a polarizing dude. Twelve words or fewer.

812
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Speaker 1: I'll read some of them and Chap joins us next,

813
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: what listen? I love Tom Petty, but yesterday it was

814
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: hardly a beautiful day. The sun certainly was not coming down.

815
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: And I don't know about running down a dream, but

816
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: the dream might be running away from the Colts. We

817
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: shall see. I don't want to play overreaction Monday and

818
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: sit here and say that everything is completely torched at

819
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: this point, but certainly things are more tenuous than they

820
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: were when the Colts were seven to one. That's stating

821
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: the obvious, but it's for the reasons that I outlined

822
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: off the top of the show. You have a quarterback

823
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 1: that now because he can't slip slide away through the pocket,

824
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: is statuesque and you're kind of reverted back to like

825
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, where if he can't move then that really

826
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: impacts his effectiveness. And it also alters the way teams

827
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: can aggressively just push up the middle on him, and

828
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Speaker 1: that changes the way the Colts offense has to operate.

829
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Speaker 1: And yesterday that they were essentially neutered in that regard,

830
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: and then on top of that seeing Sauce Gardner go down,

831
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Speaker 1: and we will see what the latest is on that.

832
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Speaker 1: Before we get to Mike Chapel real quick, I'll read

833
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Speaker 1: a couple of them. When I asked yesterday your thoughts

834
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Speaker 1: on the Colts, and twelve words are fewer right now?

835
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Speaker 1: This from Scott. The last chapter of Chris Ballard and

836
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: Indy is the most painful. Again, we'll see how things

837
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: were the dust settles Colts curmudgeon appropriately named Gardner trade

838
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: killed any chance of being good for years. In the

839
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: moment in the vacuum, I get it. But then you

840
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: step back and you got to look a little bit

841
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: more realistically. From Steve Hope and excitement to literally wanting

842
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: to die. I did like this one from Doctor Market's

843
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: simply a picture of Kallie Erse Gordon looking over the

844
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Speaker 1: field and it says, in my office. Now that's four

845
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: words we shall see joining us now on the Java House,

846
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: Peel and poor guest line. I'll read more of those

847
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: over the course of the show. Mike Chappell from CBS

848
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: four and wxin Fox fifty nine, chap I'll begin with this.

849
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: The reality is that there were play number two on

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00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. The second play of the

851
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: game offensively for the Colts yesterday was Daniel Jones immediately

852
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: throwing the ball in the dirt and realizing I think

853
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: that he just could not extend plays like he was

854
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: able to do so brilliantly really for the first eight games.

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00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: And then play number two defensively as Sauce Gardner going

856
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: down and I just looked at it and went, this

857
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: looks like it's all going up in smoke. Now we've

858
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: had a day to step back and let the dust settle.

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00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: We now absorb everything.

860
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 7: How well that they that they've they got some problems. Uh,

861
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 7: you don't like to have problems after you know, two

862
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 7: and a half months or whatever, three months. And I

863
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 7: don't know some of the some of the troubles, I

864
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 7: don't know how fixable they are. You know, I've got

865
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 7: to believe there will be kicker tryouts today tomorrow. And

866
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 7: there's a lot of things you want to be doing

867
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 7: in the same Remember holding kickout tryouts. Kicker tryouts isn't

868
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 7: one of them, because you're going to get a guy

869
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 7: that is out there and somebody let him go for

870
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 7: a reason. But my goodness, you can't be missing pats.

871
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 7: And I talked to it. We all talked to Badger

872
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 7: after the game, and you know, he feels bad, but

873
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 7: it's it's kind of like, hey, you got well, you

874
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 7: had one job, you know, points And and what's crazy

875
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 7: is that he misses a pat at the end of

876
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 7: the game. You need a touchdown, not a field goal

877
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 7: to tie it. But in that scenario, if he kicks

878
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 7: the extra point, you're you're requiring him to kick a

879
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 7: semi long field goal to send it in the overtime.

880
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 7: So you've got to you've got a trust your kicker,

881
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 7: and right now they don't.

882
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: They shouldn't.

883
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 7: Uh So we'll see. I think there will certainly be

884
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 7: tryouts where they make a change. I don't know. Maybe

885
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 7: you bring in a guy into practice squad, but if

886
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 7: you if you're going to bring in a guy didn't

887
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 7: make a change, it's crazy to bring in a guy

888
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 7: and didn't have him have a kickoff during the week

889
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 7: with badly. The bigger concern, and before I get to

890
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 7: the bigger concern, the defense has got to play better.

891
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 7: I credit him for holding the last two teams Mahomes

892
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 7: and Straud to three touchdowns. But Mike Goodness, are not

893
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 7: getting off the field. They've had like I think it's

894
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 7: nine of the twenty one possessions the last two weeks,

895
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 7: they've had nine of at least ten plays. You just

896
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 7: can't do that. You've got to get up the field.

897
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 7: I'd say to give your offense more of a chance

898
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 7: to do things right now, the offense isn't doing enough.

899
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,720
Speaker 7: This is still this is still an offensive issue. When

900
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 7: you boil it the you know, it's one of those

901
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 7: Hey you can fix one thing. I'll fix the offense.

902
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 7: Now it's more than just you know, okay, we'll do this.

903
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 7: There's things get involved with it. But you hold up

904
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 7: these last two teams, whatever it is, twenty and twenty three.

905
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 7: I mean, my goodness, you win. You've got to win

906
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 7: with this offense. But it's we've all talked about it.

907
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 7: If they're average in the last four games, they are

908
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 7: averaging like ten points last per game, and all of

909
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 7: the efficiency numbers are off significantly, third down conversions and

910
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 7: all that yards per games off about I don't know, thirty,

911
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 7: which can be misleading. But and Daniel Jones, he's gone

912
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 7: from seventy one percent to sixty one percent in the

913
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 7: last four games, and he's at least the least yard

914
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 7: is the last of the season in the last two weeks.

915
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 7: So but I thought he played win old football yesterday,

916
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 7: if that makes any sense. I thought he made enough plays.

917
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 7: Now he needed to make a couple more, which is

918
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 7: how it always is, make make two more plays three.

919
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 7: If he makes two more plays in Kansas City, they win.

920
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 7: That's that's how brutal this league is. You know, hit

921
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 7: Michael Pittman over the middle in case and if he

922
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 7: hit Michael Pittman over the middle yesterday, although it was

923
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 7: high and he was covered. But it's they're just there's

924
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 7: just there. Whatever they had early, not early, gosh, for

925
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 7: the first two months, it's just not there. And yes,

926
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 7: I agree with you that the fractured fibula is robbing

927
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 7: him of movement in the pocket, whether it's rollouts. They

928
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 7: still do some rollouts, but but he it's really hard

929
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 7: for him to escape the pocket now and whether that's

930
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 7: impacting his overall play on efficiency, I tend to think

931
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 7: it's more the pressure he's facing. But he's facing the

932
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 7: pressure because he's not side stepping it and getting out

933
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 7: of the pocket the last couple of games. But if

934
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 7: they don't get the offense uh fixed to some level,

935
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 7: this season's not gonna end.

936
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: Well, probably dumb to ask this chat, but I'm going

937
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: to anyway. If Anthony Richardson was healthy, Bud, what's that?

938
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 7: It's never stop you.

939
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: I know, if Anthony Richardson was healthy, would would we

940
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: have seen him the last two weeks? No?

941
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 7: Oh no, no, no, I I don't think so. I

942
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 7: think I would take I would take Jones at this

943
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 7: level over whatever you get from Anthony Richardson that's just

944
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 7: me and I just I've seen enough of Richardson to

945
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 7: believe that he wouldn't do enough of the regular stuff.

946
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 7: He'd give you some some big plays, probably like he did.

947
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 7: But no, I no, no, I, I I don't think.

948
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 7: And in the next week or two maybe they open

949
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 7: up the practice went on Richardson. But no, I boy,

950
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 7: I'm not going to buy into that one. I think

951
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 7: if if Richardson were practicing and available, you'd still have

952
00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 7: Jones out there.

953
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get the elephant in the room, the million

954
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: dollar question availability health status moving forward, we probably still

955
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: won't know and I don't know, so I guess two

956
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: part question as of right now at eleven minutes after

957
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: one o'clock on this Monday, the first of December, Sauce

958
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: Gardner's health is what and we will expect to hear

959
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: more clarification on that win.

960
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 7: Well, right now it's uncertain. I was told that the

961
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 7: team believe it's week. It's week to week, which probably

962
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 7: means minimum two games. Probably Kenny Moore had a strained

963
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 7: calf if that's all it is, and missed three games.

964
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 7: You know, you're crazy to try to compare one strained

965
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 7: calf with another's trained calf. But if he avoided the Achilles,

966
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 7: which you sound like he did, he's gonna miss a

967
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 7: couple of games. Clarity, Oh my good luck with that.

968
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 7: We talked to Shane Steichen today at two something.

969
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: Well, in other words, is he going to have tests

970
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: done today?

971
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 7: Yes? If he hasn't, I would think he already has.

972
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 7: I mean, when I've needed an MRI in my back

973
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 7: round my hips, they get me in pretty quick and

974
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 7: I'm nobody, so they'll they've got there somebody.

975
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: I'm sure.

976
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 7: Whether I had them last night, probably not, but today

977
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 7: for sure, I think for sure. But I don't think

978
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 7: we're gonna get it. I don't think we are going

979
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 7: to get any clarity. The team won't even confirm that

980
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:29,479
Speaker 7: Daniel Jones has got a fracture leg, so I think

981
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 7: it'll be a strained task and there's no we're hopeful

982
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 7: he returns. I'm thinking that's what we'll get from the team,

983
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 7: and in all honesty, that's probably all they know. They're

984
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 7: not going to break down. Well it's a grade three

985
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 7: four whatever, We're not going to get that. And as

986
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 7: much as we want the information, they're not required to

987
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 7: give more than that. So they're giving us what they're

988
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 7: required to give us as all teams, as almost every

989
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 7: team does, They're not gonna you know, I can still

990
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 7: remember standing by Ryan Kelly's locker several years ago when

991
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 7: he had a knee injury and we just changed the

992
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 7: last so what did you do? And he'd spent five

993
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 7: minutes telling us, well, I did this and they had

994
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 7: to fix that, and I'm thinking, my gosh, I need

995
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 7: to you know, record this single. We never get that,

996
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 7: so no, but I don't think we're going to get

997
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 7: any clarity. But I think everyone should just make him

998
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 7: miss Sauce missing. I don't know, two games minimum, and

999
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 7: who knows where this team is after two more games.

1000
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: Chap My my concern is this Mike Chapel's my guest

1001
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 1: Java House peeling poor guest line. He's with CBS four

1002
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 1: in wx A and Fox fifty nine, and I get it.

1003
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: I know that it's probably an unfair PTSD for me, okay,

1004
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 1: but Tyre's Halliburton started with a cap strain and and

1005
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 1: I totally understand. I would do it all over again

1006
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: as well. You know, you got to have him out

1007
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: there playing. I get it, And is the achilles that

1008
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: Tyree's l Burton suffered related to the calf strain. I

1009
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 1: don't know that we'll ever know that, but one would assume.

1010
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: And so when I look at a player that you

1011
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: have given up and mortgaged at least temporarily part of

1012
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 1: your future to get and he has a calf strain,

1013
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: and then I throw in the fact that his job

1014
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: is to run backwards, not forward, but backwards, which is

1015
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: an abnormal movement as it is on the calf. That

1016
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: gives me huge pause, an area of concern, because you

1017
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: have to be conscientious of the long term health, but

1018
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 1: at the same time you've got to get short term payoff.

1019
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: Am I overthinking this?

1020
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 7: No? No, but all of us say I'd go back

1021
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 7: to Kenny Moore.

1022
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 6: Whatever.

1023
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 7: A guy has a cat injury, I default to an achilles.

1024
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 6: I just do.

1025
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 7: And we thought that maybe with Kenny, and I thought

1026
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 7: that was with saus Gardner, although he said he said

1027
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 7: he feel like he got shot in the calf, but

1028
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 7: it was higher on the calf. It wasn't damn by

1029
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 7: the ankle, which was encouraging. They are not going to

1030
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 7: risk sauce Gardner short term or long term, just the

1031
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 7: same way they didn't with Kenny Moore. If there was

1032
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 7: if there was a chance of Kenny Moore blown his

1033
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 7: achilles with that injury, after missing three games, he still

1034
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 7: wouldn't be playing.

1035
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 2: He wouldn't.

1036
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 7: So but now I understand what you're saying, and this

1037
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 7: is one you've invested a ton to first an Adie Mitchell,

1038
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 7: who had a great game yesterday. By the way, good

1039
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 7: for him. But yeah, it's if he if they are

1040
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 7: convinced and he is convinced that this is a strained cast,

1041
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 7: whatever that entails, and two weeks off, three weeks off

1042
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 7: is what it takes, he'll be back. If they think,

1043
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 7: you know, there's the achilles sort of is impacted, then

1044
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 7: I don't know that he plays. But it's I keep

1045
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 7: defaulting to Kenny Moore and how they handled him not

1046
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 7: putting one ir and missing three games, and this this

1047
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 7: feels like the same. Using my doctor shingle I got

1048
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 7: from be Shrove High School. Uh So, but if he

1049
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 7: can play, he'll play. But if if there's a chance

1050
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 7: that it is achilles related and they can you know,

1051
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 7: if he goes to trem blows out the achilles in December,

1052
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 7: he doesn't play next year in all likelihood, So yeah,

1053
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 7: I just don't think they would risk that at.

1054
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: All, Mike. When you look at and I'm going to

1055
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: go to that fourth and one, and you know, Eddie

1056
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: and I were discussing off air, and we can get

1057
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: into this, I guess, and that is, you know, did

1058
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: they should they have kicked, you know, taken the points?

1059
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: Is there a you know, does that get into starting

1060
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: to worry about the kicker, et cetera. But in situations

1061
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: like you saw yesterday, I thought it was symbolic. They

1062
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: had a fourth and one, they elect to go for it,

1063
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: and they get cutesy. They try to do like a

1064
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: direct step to Tyler Warren. You know, when those plays work,

1065
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: it's brilliant. When it doesn't work, it allows for two

1066
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: knuckleheads to talk about it on the radio the next day.

1067
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: But when you've got a twenty million dollar guard and

1068
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: a whatever he wants you should pay him running back,

1069
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: why would you not just go to that bread and

1070
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: butter Every single short yardage situation possible.

1071
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 7: Well, you get into tendees and then the other team says,

1072
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 7: well they're going to get to JT and if you

1073
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 7: go wide, he gets he gets swarmed and if you

1074
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 7: go up the middle like you's hid behind Portolini and

1075
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 7: and and Quinton, you think you could get a yard.

1076
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 7: And there have been a lot of times that JC

1077
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 7: has not got that yard.

1078
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 6: You know.

1079
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 7: The ideal thing is is to put Daniel Jones under

1080
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 7: center and heaven burgough for a yard.

1081
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: But that's got to be leg issue, right league at that?

1082
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: What's it not having Daniel Jones get tried for that

1083
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: yard hard in that situation? Does that tell us what

1084
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: we need to know about his leg which we already knew?

1085
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 7: Probably? Probably?

1086
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 6: Uh?

1087
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 7: But but again I would think, like you said, if

1088
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 7: you've got this offensive line is as good as as

1089
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 7: good as it should be, and the best running back,

1090
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 7: not completely the best running back in the league, you

1091
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 7: think to get the yard. But other teams, I've seen

1092
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 7: too many instances where Jonathan Taylor has has.

1093
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 2: Not gotten it.

1094
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 7: Uh. I didn't like how they I thought they got

1095
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 7: a little bit cute with with with Tyler w Warren,

1096
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 7: you know, and when it doesn't work, it's like, well

1097
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 7: do something else, you idiot. Well it didn't work. But

1098
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be opposed at all for Tyler Warren to

1099
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 7: be in there doing that. But then when you you

1100
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 7: flubbed the snap, then then you know it just blows

1101
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 7: up on you. So but that that's that's that's another

1102
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 7: example of where things that worked early in the year,

1103
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 7: not necessarily that play, but their third down convert third

1104
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 7: down conversion rate like ten percent off and all of

1105
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 7: a sudden, fourth downs are adventurous over the yesterday five

1106
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 7: well they five or thirteen, three or thirteen on third

1107
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 7: downs and all two on fourth downs. Whatever that's been

1108
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 7: when they've really made Hey, they had at one stretch

1109
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 7: they had six straight three and outs going back to

1110
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 7: k C and then the two here you know, all

1111
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 7: of a sudden, Rigoberto Sanchez is having a punt too much.

1112
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 7: So yeah, it's just they're off, they're off. And injuries.

1113
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 7: I mean, keep in mind that Tyler Warren was questionable

1114
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 7: going in the game with the stomach virus. And then

1115
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 7: you've got a quarterback who's whatever he is, eighty percent

1116
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 7: eighty five, I don't know what he is, but he's

1117
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,919
Speaker 7: not one hundred percent. Uh So. But again, if they don't,

1118
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,439
Speaker 7: like I say, when you when you hold to two

1119
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 7: quality teams Casey and Tennessee Houston to what they did offensively,

1120
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 7: you win those games. You have to win those is

1121
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 7: because because your offense is that good and right now

1122
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 7: it's not that the passing game isn't as efficient, the

1123
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 7: running game isn't isn't efficient and asking this defense to

1124
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 7: hold the forward I can get I can give good

1125
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 7: stats on the defense, but a lot of them aren't

1126
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 7: good because they're still my goodness pressure. You get two

1127
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 7: sacks from guys who you have to check the program

1128
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 7: for a first half of you know, pronouncer names, then

1129
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 7: who the other guy is warmly from the practice squad.

1130
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 7: They just didn't get much pressure wise from Quity pay

1131
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 7: or Law and Stroud is just too good and Nico

1132
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 7: Collins is too good if you can't make them speed

1133
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 7: up what they're trying to do. And yesterday was part

1134
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 7: of the result of that.

1135
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: You know, one thing with Stroud that I don't know, Chap,

1136
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: that I had really noticed before it is, you know,

1137
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: I remember when he came out of the draft and C. J.

1138
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: Strouded said that, you know, I'm a ball placement specialist

1139
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 1: was his quote. His ability to get the ball on

1140
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: a laser really quickly. He doesn't need a lot of

1141
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: time to square up and deliver you know, he's got

1142
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: some zip on it, which I don't know that I

1143
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: had noticed that before, and I'm not saying Daniel Jones doesn't.

1144
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: But again, my worry now is that Daniel Jones has

1145
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: just simply because of the leg injury that now the Colts,

1146
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: in the flip of a switch, became too offensively predictable

1147
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: and too stale and too easy to defend. Tell me

1148
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm wrong.

1149
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 7: Well, they've got to be, yeah, and they've got to

1150
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 7: be able to stretch the field. I mean, you know,

1151
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 7: the at least take the deep shots occasionally to keep

1152
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 7: people from crowd on the line, which the net hampers

1153
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 7: of the run game. And you've got arguably the league's

1154
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 7: best deep thread and in Alec Pierce, who is quickly

1155
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 7: becoming their best receiver. He really is. Yeah, Like I say,

1156
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 7: it's not just it's it's the whack them old thing

1157
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 7: on offenses. You know, you think you got this fixed,

1158
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 7: and then and then this and then this. You know,

1159
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 7: you're trying to plug so many holes in the dike,

1160
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,479
Speaker 7: and it's just not it's just not seasible right now.

1161
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 7: So those guys getting paid a ton of money, Chris

1162
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 7: Ballad and Sikeing and all those guys, And we knew

1163
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 7: from the start that the half of the season was

1164
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 7: conducive to a great start seven and one, eight and two,

1165
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 7: and they did that, and we knew the second half

1166
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 7: of the season was going to be a murderer's row.

1167
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 7: I would argue that going into the last six games,

1168
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 7: yesterday was the easiest game with Houston. You know, you

1169
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 7: got them coming in with a quarterback hasn't played for

1170
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 7: three weeks, and you're home and you're unbeating it home,

1171
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 7: you know, you know, as we've all noted that the

1172
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 7: last time they won in Jacksonville, Reggie Wayne was playing

1173
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 7: for Crying Out Loud and Darius Butler. So they've got

1174
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 7: to find a way to win three game. But they

1175
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 7: have to win three or five. I think. I don't

1176
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 7: think tenant seven gets you in eleven and six should.

1177
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 7: But they've gone from number one seed and the best team,

1178
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 7: best record in the league to right now they're a

1179
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 7: wild card.

1180
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 8: And I saw it.

1181
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 7: It's crazy how these playoff simulators are. They're still, i believe,

1182
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 7: by the Athletics simulator, favored to win the n S

1183
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 7: or the a C South, And gosh, I wonder how

1184
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 7: they've got the better odds to win the.

1185
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: SOUD, especially when you consider that, well, a lot of

1186
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: it's going to depend on what happens between the cannibalization

1187
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 1: of Jacksonville and Houston and their remaining games. But when

1188
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: you've got to finish at Houston, that's where it becomes tough, right,

1189
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: because if it comes down between those two, you got

1190
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: to go there as opposed to hear.

1191
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 7: Jacksonville finishes with the Colts twice, and then they've got

1192
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 7: Tennessee again, and then I believe they've got the Jets.

1193
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 7: I've got to schedule. I don't. I don't have their schedule,

1194
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 7: but I believe this took it to Jets to play.

1195
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 7: There's in the Colts. You know, everybody they're playing is

1196
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 7: either in the play or probably probably in the playoffs.

1197
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe aighty Mitchell gets the Colts in the playoffs

1198
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 1: after all, maybe he goes for eight one or two

1199
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: against Jacksonville and helps out the Colts. Right, Well, there

1200
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: you go, okay.

1201
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 7: And again up lately they've not gotten any help from

1202
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 7: teams at all on other games, so this is on them.

1203
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 7: They're wavering, but they've got time to get it straightened. Out.

1204
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 7: I just boy, I'm just I'm just a little nervous

1205
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 7: whether they could get it done or not.

1206
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: Okay, Chap. Lastly, last week we talked about def Con

1207
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: four and def Con one, and one of them you

1208
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 1: said was kiss your weer in goodbye. That's def Con one, right.

1209
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm going to read you a listener text.

1210
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: Let me finish the text, and then when I do it,

1211
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 1: I want you to tell me what def con this

1212
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: listener is living in? You ready get Jake? The reality

1213
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 1: is to have built a culture on losing. Ballard's a

1214
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: loser GM and the players, even the best ones, are

1215
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: all complicit in the losing culture. Three of the last

1216
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: four years. The Colts have controlled their own destiny at

1217
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: some point in the last five or so games, and

1218
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 1: some of those games were winning in and every single

1219
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: time they lost. What a disaster. But in reality it's

1220
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 1: the least surprising outcome you can imagine as a fan.

1221
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: Players who choked in Jacksonville in twenty twenty one all

1222
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 1: got second contracts. But they're all chokers. What level def

1223
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: con is that Chap.

1224
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 7: Isn't dead Slim Pickens riding the bomb Slim Pickens, Right,

1225
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 7: that's right.

1226
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's CONO point five is what we're getting at, right.

1227
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. So yeah, and I understand that. And

1228
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 7: these guys deserve every they don't deserve the benefit of

1229
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 7: the doubt because they haven't earned it. And they have

1230
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 7: had complete fourth and one a couple of years ago.

1231
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 7: Go to Jacksonville and beat a crappy team or beat

1232
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 7: the Raiders when you're here, and they didn't, and a

1233
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 7: lot there's a good portion of the players still here.

1234
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 7: So yeah, you know, you gotta do it. You got

1235
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 7: to finish. And I we've talked before. If this thing

1236
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 7: goes south, all gloves are off on what happens. I mean,

1237
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 7: Carly will have some monster monster decisions to make. H

1238
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 7: So just just find a way to win where you

1239
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 7: can't win, you know. I thought they had a chance

1240
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,799
Speaker 7: to win in Pittsburgh where they never won, and they couldn't.

1241
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 7: And Pittsburgh's terrible. Good lord, they're terrible. So I went

1242
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 7: on Sunday and things a lot better. Uh, but yeah,

1243
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 7: I think I did. I did I say if they

1244
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 7: lost to Houston, it was def Con two and a half.

1245
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: Said, yep, yep, unless you're this guy. Yeah, Piggan's right

1246
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 1: in the bomb. Then it's point five. All right, we'll

1247
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 1: see what happens obviously up coming with Jacksonville. It only

1248
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: gets bigger from there, and we'll talk to Chap afterwards

1249
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: and see what defcom we're writing. Then appreciate the time

1250
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: as always, Mike, you.

1251
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 7: Guys be willing to stay away from the panic button.

1252
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: That's right, Appreciate it. Mike Chapple joining us on the program.

1253
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 1: All right, Ralph Reef in about forty and I want

1254
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: to get clarification here on a couple of these injuries,

1255
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: including Daniel Jones and Sauce Gardner and what they may

1256
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: mean or what they could facilitate moving forward. But it's

1257
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 1: also it's kind of a manic Monday, right, it's a

1258
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 1: reactionary Monday, which means Ednie that we haven't done this

1259
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: in a while. The telephone number. If there's something that

1260
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 1: you've got a question about. You were watching the game

1261
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 1: and you're yelling at the television and you're asking out

1262
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 1: loud about the Colts, or there's something that simply frustrated

1263
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 1: you to the point where you felt like you needed

1264
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 1: a platform to get it out. Now's the time. I'd

1265
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: love to know your thoughts on it, and there is

1266
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 1: something good going on in this town sports wise that

1267
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 1: we'll get to as well. So yesterday and listen, I

1268
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: get it. I have always felt that we have somewhat

1269
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: of an obligation. I guess when I when I was

1270
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 1: working in television and would go in and ask questions

1271
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 1: postgame for my you know, nightly recap of a Colts game,

1272
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 1: Pacer game, whatever it might be. I always felt like

1273
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: having that credential meant that you had the responsibility to

1274
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 1: ask the questions that people were yelling at their television

1275
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 1: while they were watching the game. Why are you doing that,

1276
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 1: why did you pick that play, you know, et cetera.

1277
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:42,719
Speaker 1: And in the capacity that we have now, I feel

1278
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: like it is the responsibility for us to allow people

1279
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: the opportunity to also have a platform to voice and

1280
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: or ask the questions of what frustrates them or excites them,

1281
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Speaker 1: or whatever it might be regarding a Colts game or

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Speaker 1: any sporting event. Pacers in Action tonight, that is at

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01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: Gamebridge Field House. They're taking on the Cleveland the Cavaliers.

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Speaker 5: To Sega Baba for the Cavaliers.

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Speaker 1: Okay, nobody says that, by the way, that's the second

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Speaker 1: game of a back to back. Thank you is what

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Speaker 1: that means. But let's get back into the Colts in yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and we will do so at two through nine, ten seventy,

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Speaker 1: where I invite the conversation. We will begin with Darren,

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01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: who joins us on the show. Hi Darren, Hey Jake.

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Speaker 9: Kind of your overall comments here just a minute ago

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01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 9: about the offense being stagnant. Is there any thought to

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01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 9: in your mind of letting Jim Bob Cooter start to

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01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 9: call the offense? Because he was this highly sought off

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Speaker 9: for offensive coordinator, A lot of people wanted him as

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Speaker 9: a head coach. He's supposed to be generational genius, as

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Speaker 9: is supposedly Shane. I just think his stuff is so

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01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 9: elaborate at times it's hard to execute. And you watch

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Speaker 9: another NFL game and you hear the announcers countully say,

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01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 9: you know, that's a guaranteed five yard play a seven

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Speaker 9: year and that's where we're short every time.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a really good point, Darren, And I

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01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 1: don't know that I'm ready to say that Shane Steikeen

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01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 1: shouldn't be calling plays as much as this and that

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01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 1: is and I'm going to give, and Darren, I realized

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01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 1: that I probably sometimes liken stuff too much from one

1307
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,440
Speaker 1: franchise to the next. You know what I mean in comparisons,

1308
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,839
Speaker 1: because they're apples and oranges. But if you watch Pacer games,

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01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: for example, when during the course of the game, and

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01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 1: I watched Rick Carlyle a lot and Rick Carlyle, who

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01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,679
Speaker 1: is also you know, a brilliant mind, right, a brilliant

1312
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 1: offensive mind in particular with the Pacers offense. But whenever

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01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 1: there's a whistle, whenever there's a foul, he always has

1314
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 1: whether it be the trainer or one of the assistants

1315
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 1: that comes over to get in his ear and simply say, hey,

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01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: that's foul number, so you know that's three on so

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Speaker 1: and so or whatever it may be. The point being,

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Speaker 1: I think Carlile's brain moves very quickly, and he has

1319
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: people whose job it is to walk up to him

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01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: and slow it down for him. And I think for

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01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: Shane Stiken that would be beneficial because Darren, if you

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01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: listen to Steike and talk and this is pot calling

1323
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: kettle black, but at times he speaks so fast that

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01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: you can then understand in the course of a game

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01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 1: when the arrows are flying, how his brain goes too

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01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: fast and in that capacity, I don't know that you

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Speaker 1: need someone necessarily to take over the every play call role,

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01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: but maybe somebody to simply be there to say, hey,

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01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 1: we could and I know you only got thirty seconds, right,

1330
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: but to just kind of slow things down for him

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Speaker 1: or remind him of things in the process. Does that

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Speaker 1: make sense, Darren?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and one of them. Do you think his relationship

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01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 9: with Jones clouds play calling too much?

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Speaker 1: Excellent question, outstanding question. I don't. I think I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's relationship with Jones as much as it's simply

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01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 1: relationship with quarterback. And in this situation, yes, he has

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01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 1: a quarterback that he trusts and it times I think

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Speaker 1: I think early on, Darren, it might have been the

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Speaker 1: case that he was calling plays to try to build

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01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 1: Jones up or get him that stability. But I think

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Speaker 1: now it's just the fact that he has a quarterback there,

1343
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 1: that they have that symbiotic relationship right where they can

1344
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 1: complete each other's sentence, so to speak. And I think

1345
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: now what you have is simply the fact that Jones,

1346
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: in his inability to maneuver like he could pre injury.

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01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: That's what's making things difficult because it limits the number

1348
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: of plays or looks that they can present because you

1349
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 1: can you can create a look now or a presentation

1350
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: like you're gonna roll him out or do something like that,

1351
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 1: and teams are like, yeah, right, they know it. I mean,

1352
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: the blueprint's already out now. And it started with Pittsburgh

1353
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 1: in coming full force right up that middle, just just

1354
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 1: forcing it right up the middle and that pressure. Then

1355
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 1: Atlanta did it. It didn't work, they didn't win, but

1356
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: they kept him uneasy. And I think everybody's kind of

1357
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 1: done that now. John is up next, John, what's up, hey, Jake.

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Speaker 10: I agree with a lot of what's been said about

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01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 10: the offense, especially chefs whack a mole analogy, but I

1360
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 10: wanted to talk about the past rush and which has

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01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 10: just been a constant issue really for the last decade.

1362
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Speaker 10: And I think we have thirty three sacks on the season.

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01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 10: It's a very pressure heavy. I think we're third in pressure,

1364
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,759
Speaker 10: but it's a finish, light unit. There's so much pressure,

1365
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 10: but our rush win speed is the bottom third. We're

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01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 10: only middle of the pack. And sas per attempt, you

1367
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 10: have guys like Lats who are so athletic and bendy

1368
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 10: and they fly in there, but they're just not getting the.

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01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,959
Speaker 1: Hold on on it comes down. Did you say our

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01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 1: ru what was the rush speed? You mentioned the rush?

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Speaker 1: What speed.

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Speaker 10: Like the amount of times that we ren't win the rush.

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Speaker 10: I'm just reading off stats that I'm trying to make

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Speaker 10: sense of. The point is, I don't understand how we

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01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 10: can be third in pressure and finish so finished off

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01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 10: on that pressure and end up so.

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Speaker 1: Fair no fair point. And I think part of that, honestly,

1378
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 1: I think that's why you go out and get sauce

1379
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:11,640
Speaker 1: Gardner right, because part of that is because if you

1380
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 1: if you're getting that rush and and and in that

1381
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 1: guys are right off the line able to get open

1382
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 1: and like CJ. Scoud for example, that quick release, boom

1383
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 1: and quick out. You notice it when sauce Gardener went out,

1384
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,560
Speaker 1: Houston went right to that side of the ball, immediately

1385
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 1: right they went there, immediately to Blackman's side of the ball,

1386
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: but or side of the field. So I think that

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01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 1: the thought process there is that if you can get

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01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 1: to me, I've always felt like pass rush and it's

1389
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 1: chicken and egg, you know, which is the more important?

1390
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: The pass rusher getting to the quarterback or having a

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01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: coverage sack, where a quarterback then is the sitting just

1392
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 1: the sitting duck because of the fact that he doesn't

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01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: have anywhere to go. And I think the point they're

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01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: being made, the point that you're making good point on

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01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: your getting to the quarterback, but why then are you

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01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 1: not completing it? I think it's because the Colts have

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01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 1: put themselves in position and that's why they've tried to

1398
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 1: shore it up that guys are able to get rid

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01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 1: of the ball quickly because guys off the line are

1400
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 1: able to get instant space.

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Speaker 5: They haven't even gotten a coverage sack in the last

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01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 5: two weeks. Like you go back and watch that game

1403
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 5: against Kansas City, there was no pressure, like no coverage

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01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 5: pressure at all, and Mahomes just standing there waiting. Same

1405
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 5: yesterday with c. J. Strata, it was just you're just

1406
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 5: waiting for one of his receivers to get open. There

1407
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 5: was none of that. Even when there was good coverage,

1408
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 5: they couldn't get towards Strat at all.

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Speaker 1: Simon, what's up? Simon?

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Speaker 11: Hey, Jake, thanks for taking my call. Hey, before I start,

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01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 11: I want to clarify a couple of things before I

1412
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 11: give my take. I've been a season's ticket holder since

1413
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 11: ninety six, God willing my kids grandkids will have those seats,

1414
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 11: So I'm all in right, have been for a long time.

1415
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 11: I'm one hundred percent not the rest cost us a

1416
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,520
Speaker 11: game guy, just like you said in your opening and

1417
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 11: absolutely under no circumstances do I think the NFL is rigged.

1418
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 11: But I have my point is this, and I missed

1419
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 11: the game, Miskes. I'm feeling a bit under the weather,

1420
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 11: so I didn't have twenty seven beers at the tail

1421
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:15,879
Speaker 11: game before I go in and just take all just

1422
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 11: take it all in, right. But I'm watching it from

1423
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 11: my basement, and you know, our franchise is making groundbreaking,

1424
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 11: revelationary strides and changes in this league, doing amazing things.

1425
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 11: You know, you see Morgan Morgan Lucas for crying out loud,

1426
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 11: passing out turkeys with the team. You've got the coach

1427
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 11: and the general manager's wife supporting causes openly. Never seen

1428
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 11: this in the history of the league and from my perspective, right,

1429
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 11: but the NFL is not pulling your weight.

1430
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 2: With these officiates.

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Speaker 11: With these officials, I mean, we've got approaching, approaching a

1432
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 11: billion dollars worth of salaries give or take, I mean

1433
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 11: a half billion for sure on the field, and you've

1434
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 11: got five guys that can't just five normal guys like

1435
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 11: you and I that are determining outcomes of games on

1436
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:06,679
Speaker 11: this station. In every major news outlet that covers the NFL,

1437
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 11: every freaking week, they come on and they say, there's

1438
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 11: two or three games. Chap just said it in the interview,

1439
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 11: there's two or three plays in a game that determine

1440
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 11: the outcome. You've got the players have got to win

1441
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 11: those games. And you've got these three, these five buffoons,

1442
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 11: blowing three calls in one series three. And we're we're

1443
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 11: supposed as fans to support a league that actually sits

1444
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 11: down and says, look, there's three key plays in every

1445
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 11: game that determine the outcome, and these jackasses blow three

1446
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:35,839
Speaker 11: calls in one series.

1447
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: So Simon, let me ask you this though. And I'm

1448
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm playing Devil's advocate here. I'm not picking on you, Okay,

1449
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: I'm using, but I am using you unfortunately as the example. Okay,

1450
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 1: no problem, because Jake, I'm about that guy. Now, I

1451
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 1: got it. But but here's my question. True or false?

1452
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 1: You have season tickets, true, true or false? You open

1453
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,679
Speaker 1: by saying that your grandkids will have those same season

1454
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 1: ticket and nothing's going to come between you and surrendering

1455
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 1: them absolute God willing, And that's my point, right.

1456
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 11: But here's the thing, Jake, the league's I mean, you know,

1457
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 11: I set my basement, I got three TV's in my basement,

1458
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,680
Speaker 11: and at one time I look up and I've got

1459
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 11: a DraftKings logo, I've got a fan duel, and I've

1460
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 11: got ESPN BET logo on my TV.

1461
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: I totally get it. Totally.

1462
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 11: So you tell me the NFL can't do better, I

1463
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,679
Speaker 11: mean why can't I mean, why can't we have reviews

1464
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 11: on every play?

1465
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 1: Well, it's certainly much money. Certainly Simon not being able

1466
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 1: to review a the play clock going off is ridiculous, right,

1467
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 1: I have no question about that. Again, it does go

1468
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 1: both ways, I mean to your point, to your point

1469
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 1: when it comes to the reason why I don't think

1470
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 1: officiating you can always say cost them a game is

1471
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 1: because it goes both ways. I mean, the Colt's got

1472
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 1: a score. I'm pretty sure they scored on the drive

1473
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 1: where Alec Pierce there was a PI called and the

1474
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 1: ball I mean that football was not within twenty yards

1475
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 1: of Alec Pierce, right, it has to be a catchable

1476
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 1: ball and so it does go both ways. Open disclaimer, Simon,

1477
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 1: I'll give an open disclaimer since you did as well.

1478
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: Open disclaimer. It is not I don't do it for

1479
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 1: the NFL. I don't, but I do do for the

1480
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 1: referees of high school and college. One of the things

1481
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 1: that I do not regularly. I don't regularly do it,

1482
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 1: but I help out from time to time with their

1483
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 1: instructional videos in terms of doing the voiceover work of

1484
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 1: the videos of plays that they had incorrect that they

1485
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 1: have to then go back mandatory before they get their

1486
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 1: assignments for the next week, they have to go back

1487
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 1: and look at plays that took place from the week

1488
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 1: before from different college games. I don't see the play.

1489
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 1: I just simply see the script and I read it

1490
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Speaker 1: and it goes into the video portal that every NCAA

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01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 1: official gets. For that reason, I understand the complexities and

1492
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 1: the intricacies of different plays, and it's unbelievable, and they

1493
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: get more right than they get wrong. I will say

1494
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 1: that it is incredible the intricacies of the things that

1495
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 1: they need to know. But there are certain things like

1496
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 1: you mentioned yesterday the PI on Kenny Moore. You know,

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01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 1: they're probably by the letter of the law. I can

1498
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 1: understand it. But the extra point and the play clock

1499
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 1: pretty bad, no question about it. Ralph Reef in about

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01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 1: twenty minutes from now find out because there are always

1501
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 1: are conflicting thoughts on like a calf strain. What it means?

1502
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 1: Could it be? Could that lend itself to other such things?

1503
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 1: We will find out from Ralph Freef when he joins us.

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01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 1: Coming up about fifteen minutes from now, Jay Querry along

1505
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 1: with Eddie Garrison. It is Query and Company here on

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01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 1: ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan.

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01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:53,679
Speaker 1: We'll get back to the phone calls just a minute,

1508
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: but I do want to hear from Daniel Jones talking

1509
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 1: about the pulse of the locker room because the Colts

1510
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 1: started out seven and one. They have now lost three

1511
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 1: of four, and it gets real when you look at

1512
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: the schedule. It gets real now because you go to

1513
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jags have found a little bit of stability underneath them,

1514
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 1: and then Seattle before you come back home for a

1515
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 1: two step the Niners, and again the Jags, and then

1516
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 1: on the Road in Houston. So this is a pretty

1517
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 1: daunting schedule. Although they've you know, look, winning in LA

1518
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 1: against the Chargers, playing well against the Rams in LA,

1519
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 1: beating Denver at home. It's not like the first half

1520
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 1: didn't present its challenges. But here is Daniel Jones now

1521
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 1: on just the thought process of the locker room itself,

1522
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: with things having some adversity as opposed to clicking on

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01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: all cylinders.

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01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 12: Expect a high sense of urgency and you know, guys

1525
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 12: being ready eager to correct what we need to correct

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01:23:55,240 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 12: and improve. I don't think anyone is when no one's

1527
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 12: losing confidence or certainly no one is you know, gonna

1528
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 12: get you know, to to wound up about it. But

1529
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 12: we know what we have to do, and we know

1530
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 12: we have to improve and make progress. So you know,

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01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 12: I expect guys to be ready to go, and we've

1532
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 12: got to have a good week. We got to make

1533
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 12: sure we clean some stuff up.

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01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 1: Okay, oh wow, clean stuff up at it. You know,

1535
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 1: you drive across West fifty sixth and just before you

1536
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:36,679
Speaker 1: get to Ego Creek and see the beauty of the park,

1537
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 1: you can just smell you can smell the cleanliness in

1538
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 1: the air from all the cleaning up they do over

1539
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 1: there in West fifty sixth. Yeah, they're always cleaning stuff

1540
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 1: up over there. But you can tell there that Daniel

1541
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 1: Jones believes that more than when we talked to him

1542
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 1: last week, or or he talked last week when he

1543
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 1: was asked about his leg injury, and he said eight

1544
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:00,600
Speaker 1: times in twenty nine seconds. I'm telling you, when a

1545
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 1: guy says eight times in twenty nine seconds, as he

1546
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: did when he was asked about his leg injury last

1547
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 1: week before we knew about the fracture within his fibula,

1548
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: those answers when guys are searching for it, you can

1549
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 1: tell the only thing I know. I'm a moron in

1550
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of all aspects of life, but I

1551
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 1: know this much. When I hear an athlete that is

1552
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 1: uncertain of what he's talking about, I can tell it.

1553
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 1: And either they're uncertain because they don't know what they're

1554
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 1: supposed to say, or they simply don't have an answer.

1555
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 1: And that's what he sounded like when asked about his

1556
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 1: leg in that that sounds to me like a guy

1557
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 1: that is pretty confident that they're going to be able

1558
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 1: to try to work themselves at least from an attention

1559
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,600
Speaker 1: standpoint out of it. THEO Randiel will get to you

1560
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 1: next and Ralphrief as well, Ralph Frief just a couple

1561
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 1: of minutes from now, a couple of more phone calls

1562
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,679
Speaker 1: to get to as well as that was the call yesterday,

1563
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: Matt Taylor, Colts Radio Network. You heard Rick von Tury,

1564
01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:59,599
Speaker 1: you heard from Shane Steichen, you heard from Kenny Moore.

1565
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 1: As the Colts drop one, and in fact that AFC

1566
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 1: South the grip on it is sliding away. They are

1567
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 1: zero to one against the Houston Texans. They finished the

1568
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 1: year in Houston. They've got Jacksonville coming up on the

1569
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 1: road this Sunday, and then the Jags again on the schedule,

1570
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 1: and then that two step that's not the easiest with

1571
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 1: the NFC West Seattle and San Francisco one home won away.

1572
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:26,600
Speaker 1: That's where things stand right now for the Colts. I

1573
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 1: made mentioned yesterday, I thought the second play of the

1574
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 1: game for both sides of the ball were key. The

1575
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 1: second play of the game overall was Daniel Jones dropping

1576
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 1: back and he was going to run a slant. It

1577
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 1: was covered and he immediately dirted the football. Now, yes,

1578
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:49,640
Speaker 1: I mean that's but my point about that I'm not

1579
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 1: saying it's entirely because of his leg that he you know,

1580
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 1: it's not like he dropped back and he's like, oh,

1581
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 1: I'm in pain, and he threw the ball away. But

1582
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 1: I think he knew that he could not extend the

1583
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 1: play because of the leg injury that he's dealing with

1584
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 1: and the way that that has put restriction on him.

1585
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 1: And that then allowed Houston to say, well, look, this

1586
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: guy can't move, so we're just gonna bum rush it

1587
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 1: right up the middle and take away all other areas

1588
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 1: of the field. And that's what they did, and the

1589
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: Colts were never able to offensively get any sort of

1590
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 1: rhythm going at all. And then the second play defensively,

1591
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 1: of course, is that of Sauce Gardner going down and

1592
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: this is a guy that you gave up not one,

1593
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 1: but two first round picks for him. Adie Mitchell was

1594
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 1: thrown in as well, And while that was all happening,

1595
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 1: Ady Mitchell's off going nuts for the Jets. It was

1596
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 1: not a good day yesterday for the Colts, no question

1597
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 1: about it. Two through nine, ten seventy. The telephone number

1598
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 1: Ralphreek just a couple of minutes. But I want to

1599
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 1: get THEO on THEO. What's up? Hey, how you doing Theolmari?

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01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 1: You've called the show before, right?

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01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 13: Uh, yes, sir, I have, and I appreciate you for

1602
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 13: all that you do and giving us a platform and

1603
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 13: have a voice as coach fans. I mean, I'm still excited,

1604
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 13: you know, and I have you know, we're keeping hope alive.

1605
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:14,600
Speaker 13: But I will say I'm extremely proud of the coach defense.

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01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 2: I thought they.

1607
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:20,679
Speaker 13: Played pretty well considering the circumstances. I mean, they pretty

1608
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 13: much played a whole game on the field. But it's

1609
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 13: I will say this, Jones, and I want to ask

1610
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:33,759
Speaker 13: you this. Jones is not known to be a closer.

1611
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 13: I believe he's like in career twelve and ten as

1612
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 13: a close in the closeouts, he's not very good, and

1613
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:44,639
Speaker 13: he was struggling to close out games. The four losses

1614
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:48,680
Speaker 13: the coach had. We're in his hands because now teams know,

1615
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 13: stop JT. We have a great chance of beating these

1616
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 13: guys because Jones is not that guy, and you have

1617
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 13: a great chance of beating them with Jones behind the center.

1618
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 1: I think that's fair, shal I think it's fair to

1619
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 1: say this John saying he's a system quarterback might be

1620
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 1: selling him short, but he is a quarterback that needs

1621
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 1: playmakers around him, and he is a good facilitator towards

1622
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 1: getting the ball to those playmakers. But he is not

1623
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:20,640
Speaker 1: himself a guy that's necessarily going to go out and

1624
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 1: make the play. Does that make sense?

1625
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:27,799
Speaker 13: It makes perfect sense. And we need that guy because

1626
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 13: when because teams are going to close out on JT

1627
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 13: and try to stop him, and that's just a no brain,

1628
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 13: especially we have these big defenses coming up. But I

1629
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 13: want to ask you this, and I'm going to get

1630
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 13: off if this, if by looking at what you're looking

1631
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 13: at today in Jones, would you extend Jones to a

1632
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 13: long term contract based on what you're seeing?

1633
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 6: No?

1634
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, the great point. I appreciate the call.

1635
01:29:55,640 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 1: Call anytime, would I extend him? Yes, because I don't

1636
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 1: know what are your options. You're not getting draft a

1637
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 1: quarterback now. You can't draft one in the first round

1638
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 1: this year, you can't draft one in the first round

1639
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 1: next year. And even that, as we saw the last

1640
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 1: time he did that, howd that work out? That guy's

1641
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 1: all but forgotten and I realize he's been hurt, and

1642
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Anthony Richardson in that regard. But

1643
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 1: they've turned that page. So I would say, you kick

1644
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 1: the can. They kicked the can with Philip Rivers. They

1645
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 1: kicked the can with Carson Wentz. That didn't work out.

1646
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 1: They kicked the can with Matt Ryan, and now you're

1647
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 1: drop kicking the can. You're getting a little more out

1648
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 1: of it. But I would go two years on Jones

1649
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 1: and see if you can't right the ship, are you?

1650
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:39,600
Speaker 5: I think they're probably in the boat now Jake, with

1651
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 5: the way he's played lately, is franchise tag and be like, hey.

1652
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:46,640
Speaker 1: With that, Yeah, that's probably the exact answer. Yes, the

1653
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:49,599
Speaker 1: franchise tag is probably exactly right, and you buy yourself

1654
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 1: another year out of it. Randy, before we get to

1655
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 1: Ralph free foots up.

1656
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 8: Randy, what I just wanted to go back to old school.

1657
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 8: Run the damn ball. You got the number one running

1658
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 8: back in the whole NFL, and I took all my

1659
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 8: friends before Sunday. If they run jat at least twenty

1660
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 8: five times, we win the game. If they're running less

1661
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 8: than twenty five times a game for the game, then

1662
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 8: we lose. They're running twenty one times. He had eighty

1663
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 8: five yards that extra five or six seven yards carries,

1664
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 8: then that would have been the that would have been

1665
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 8: the game changer. I don't understand why why now, I

1666
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 8: don't know what you're saving him for. Because you're not

1667
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 8: gonna make the playoffs? What are you saving him for?

1668
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:42,799
Speaker 8: Running twenty five thirty times a game?

1669
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 1: He's because he is a whole hit, right. I mean

1670
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 1: you've got to get.

1671
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,920
Speaker 8: You know, you're the game changer for the Colts. He's

1672
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 8: the number one player on the whole team. I don't

1673
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 8: understand why you're not running him twenty five thirty.

1674
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 1: Randy, you sound like a fun guy. Do you go

1675
01:31:58,320 --> 01:31:59,799
Speaker 1: to the games or do you just hang out with buddies?

1676
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:02,479
Speaker 8: Do I No, I just hang out with buddies and

1677
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 8: watch it.

1678
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,599
Speaker 1: But I know, can I invite myself to hang out

1679
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 1: to a game sometime with you and watch a game

1680
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 1: with you? You sound like you'd be a fun guy.

1681
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:14,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, I'm screaming it. Run Jonathan Taylor.

1682
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 1: R Randy real quick before we get to Ralph freef

1683
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:19,760
Speaker 1: Can you do me a favor I need? And I

1684
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 1: want you to now now keep it clean, no profanity here.

1685
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 1: I want you to to reenact for me. You're watching

1686
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 1: the television they show Shane Steichen and you're wanting them

1687
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:31,720
Speaker 1: to run Jonathan Taylor, and you're yelling at the screen, now,

1688
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 1: can you reenact for me real quick? I want the

1689
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 1: Randy best from deep down within the lungs, the most

1690
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 1: vociferous demand of running the football with Jonathan Taylor, as

1691
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 1: you would yell at to your buddies in the screen

1692
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 1: on the count of three. You ready, Randy? Are you

1693
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:48,759
Speaker 1: ready to reenact? All right? Here we go one, two, three,

1694
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 1: Run the damn bes run John Taylor. There you go,

1695
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 1: all right. See that's the kind that's the passion I need, Randy,

1696
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 1: That's what I need. Hamm in other surf side, let's

1697
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 1: go right. I love it joining us now in the

1698
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 1: Java House, Peel and poor guest line. Of course, you

1699
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 1: hear him on this show with regular occasion, and it's

1700
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 1: always an informative conversation. Ralph Reef is the foremost leader

1701
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:17,759
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis when it comes to athletic training and joining

1702
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:22,599
Speaker 1: me now Ralph Reef dot Com his website, that's r eiff, Ralph.

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01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:26,679
Speaker 1: Let's get right to this. The when I saw Sauce

1704
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 1: Gardner go down, and I want to be very specific

1705
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 1: and also give the disclaimer that we always give. You know,

1706
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 1: you are not specifically the athletic trainer for Sauce Gardner.

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01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:39,679
Speaker 1: You're not looking at specifically his example, so we're speaking

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01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 1: in generalities. But when I saw it, my eye immediately

1709
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 1: looked over to the corner of the end zone where

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01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm seeing Tyrese Haliburton there, and I'm getting flashbacks in

1711
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 1: my mind because Haliburton was a cap strain, and then

1712
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 1: obviously we saw that facilitate itself or grow itself into

1713
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:59,680
Speaker 1: the Achilles And I don't know if that's isolated. I

1714
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:03,439
Speaker 1: don't know one lends itself to the other. And I

1715
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 1: want to get into all of that, But let's begin

1716
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 1: with the Sauce Gardner injury. When you saw it and

1717
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:11,240
Speaker 1: then you heard calf strain more often than not, that

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01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 1: means what probably took place.

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Speaker 14: Well, good afternoon to you, Jake, And to get to

1720
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 14: that injury, what it means from what we're hearing and

1721
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 14: seeing is that that unit from the back of the

1722
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:33,759
Speaker 14: knee all the way down to the bottom of the heel.

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01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:37,560
Speaker 14: While we describe it as different things, you know, a

1724
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:40,400
Speaker 14: couple of layers of the calf muscle and the Achilles tendon.

1725
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,720
Speaker 14: It's all one unit that has to work together. And

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01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 14: so he has, according to reports, an injury to the

1727
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 14: upper portion of the lower leg, which would be in

1728
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 14: the meat of the calf muscle. And so when I

1729
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 14: saw it, it was let's wait and see, right, because

1730
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:08,520
Speaker 14: they're all a little bit different. And but from reports

1731
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:12,280
Speaker 14: and and and there was some very things that raised

1732
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:16,799
Speaker 14: a red flag for me was what he said about

1733
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 14: what he felt.

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01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 1: And if I'm not mistaken, and I'm paraphrasing here, Ralph,

1735
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 1: he basically said that he felt like a heat Is

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01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:27,600
Speaker 1: that right, Like like a warmth in the back of

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01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:30,639
Speaker 1: the leg or like what exactly what? What? What jumped

1738
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 1: out at the ears of Ralph Reef.

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01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 14: Yeah, he said, I felt like I got shot in

1740
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 14: the back of the leg. And that was reported by

1741
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 14: a couple of outlets right after the game. And so

1742
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,720
Speaker 14: that to me, Jake, I hate to say it, but

1743
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:50,679
Speaker 14: it's very concerning to me. It is a very common,

1744
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:56,719
Speaker 14: uh statement that people make when the lower leg is injured,

1745
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:02,599
Speaker 14: and off times people will turn around and look and say, hey,

1746
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 14: who kicked me? Or who hit me? It might happen

1747
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:08,679
Speaker 14: on the golf course. I've seen it in a couple

1748
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 14: of football and basketball officials running on the sideline during games,

1749
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 14: where all of a sudden they'll stop and really question

1750
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:23,880
Speaker 14: who kicked them. And so from that, I'm going to

1751
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 14: assume he has a significant care to the calf muscle.

1752
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:34,920
Speaker 14: From that statement, and also the fact that I think

1753
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 14: somebody within the media reported that it was a high

1754
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 14: grade injury, and so high grade is also muscle fibers

1755
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 14: have been torn. You get this feeling of, Hey, I

1756
01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:55,479
Speaker 14: got kicked. Somebody hit me with a golf club. I

1757
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:59,280
Speaker 14: felt like I got shot. It's because that whole structure

1758
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 14: is under such great tension. And and you were right.

1759
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 14: You know, early in your show you talked about backpedaling

1760
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 14: and so forth, and yeah, that that motion up and

1761
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 14: down of the ankle, push off and landing and so forth.

1762
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:17,759
Speaker 14: That calf structure, the achilles tendon, is always under tension,

1763
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:20,720
Speaker 14: and when that is released, it pops.

1764
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 1: Ralph, I'm going to ask it a really I'm almost

1765
01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 1: embarrassed because it's such a dumb question here, Okay, but

1766
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 1: it would be my assumption that the human body is

1767
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:35,520
Speaker 1: designed it it's a machine, right, and it is designed

1768
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 1: by the machine is to move a certain way, which

1769
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 1: is more often than not forward. And now you have

1770
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 1: a player like Sauce Gardner whose job primarily is to

1771
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 1: run backward. Does that compromise the way that the machine operates,

1772
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 1: or would his muscles be programmed through the workouts that

1773
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:02,120
Speaker 1: he's done to be able to withstand the trauma of

1774
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 1: moving backwards versus forward? Or is that something that is

1775
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 1: constantly unnatural to the body, no matter how natural you

1776
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:09,800
Speaker 1: try to make it.

1777
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Speaker 14: So I'll counter you a little bit and say, it's

1778
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:22,320
Speaker 14: not uncommon for athletes that run backwards, okay, So, particularly

1779
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 14: at the elite level, they've been doing it all the lives, right,

1780
01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 14: And if you go watch a football practice, whether it's

1781
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 14: a Warrene Central High School or Universey of Indianapolis or

1782
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:36,960
Speaker 14: with the Colts, your defensive backs and linebackers are going

1783
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 14: to do a lot of backpedaling drill, and so, yes,

1784
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:45,639
Speaker 14: the muscle structures, the neuromuscular system gets a custom to, okay,

1785
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 14: and so it's not an unusual.

1786
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 1: Movement, okay. So therefore, in his situation, it's not like

1787
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 1: the human body is saying, well, what do you expect

1788
01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:58,760
Speaker 1: You're asking me to do? The opposite of what I'm

1789
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 1: programmed to do, it can be programmed to do it

1790
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 1: that way, right, So that's correct. Okay. Now, having said that,

1791
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 1: the one area in this town, Ralph, as you know,

1792
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:11,719
Speaker 1: Ralph Reef is my guest. By the way, Reef Executive

1793
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:15,639
Speaker 1: Performance Solutions, the organization Ralph Reef dot com, ri ei

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01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 1: f f dot com is the website. The reality is

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01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 1: I want to go back to and I hate doing it, Ralph,

1796
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 1: but but it's familiarity for us. When Tyrese Haliburton had

1797
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:32,439
Speaker 1: his calf strain, that's what it was initially and then

1798
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 1: and we knew and I totally understand why the Pacers

1799
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 1: and Haliburton, everybody else was out there in Game seven.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we all understand that the achilles that we

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01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:44,120
Speaker 1: saw from Tyrese Halliburton that then sidelined him for say

1802
01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:51,360
Speaker 1: a year, is that an issue that increases in probability

1803
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 1: coming off of a calf.

1804
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 14: Strain, the injury to that unit starting with a muscle

1805
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:02,080
Speaker 14: inter as you've described that, there is like this initial

1806
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 14: injury and so let's say with Tyrese or in this

1807
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 14: case with Sauce Gardner, it does predispose the rest of

1808
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 14: the unit to have an injury of some sort. So

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01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:18,280
Speaker 14: the rest of that unit on the backside of the

1810
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 14: lower leg includes the Achilles tendon. And so when you

1811
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:26,599
Speaker 14: have a disruption to the normal function of the upper

1812
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:30,280
Speaker 14: portion of the lower leg, the lower portion takes on

1813
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:34,759
Speaker 14: more of that responsibility. And I believe in the Ralph

1814
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 14: world of thought that that load eventually exceeds capability.

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01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 1: If you were looking at and I want to speak

1816
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:50,600
Speaker 1: again in generality here, Ralph, okay, and I know that

1817
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:54,360
Speaker 1: every body is different, every muscle is different, every reaction

1818
01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:57,880
Speaker 1: is different. More often than not, when you hear caf

1819
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:02,679
Speaker 1: strain in your vast experience as an athletic trainer, that

1820
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 1: lends you to believe what amount of time frame, generically speaking,

1821
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:11,799
Speaker 1: is a probable expectation that a player or an athlete

1822
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:15,400
Speaker 1: needs to rest and recover and not put himself back

1823
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 1: on the field.

1824
01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 14: Well, I'm a big fan of biology, and it's been

1825
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 14: proven over and over again research all those things that

1826
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 14: twenty one days from the onset of the injury, the

1827
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 14: body needs twenty one days as a middle of the

1828
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:36,400
Speaker 14: bell curve to heal. And so three weeks, let's assume

1829
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:42,519
Speaker 14: nothing else is wrong. Let's assume that now we're speaking

1830
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 14: in terms of Sauce Gardner.

1831
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 2: Who's an elite athlete.

1832
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:49,960
Speaker 14: He's young, he's relatively healthy, and he has the best

1833
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 14: professionals in the world at his disposal, and so I

1834
01:41:55,320 --> 01:42:01,120
Speaker 14: would doubt very much if this succeeds into the third week.

1835
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 14: So I think that if and of course I'm stacking

1836
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 14: up all my IFFs, right, if it's a tear of

1837
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 14: the upper portion of the calf muscle, and based on

1838
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 14: everything we're hearing and reading, and then if he's fully

1839
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:23,639
Speaker 14: protected and gets all kinds of you know, we talked

1840
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:25,840
Speaker 14: about stem cells a few weeks ago and all that

1841
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:29,480
Speaker 14: kind of stuff. So there's there's different products, different programming,

1842
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:34,440
Speaker 14: different treatments that can be used to fool the biology

1843
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 14: and speed it up a little bit.

1844
01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:41,639
Speaker 2: And so no more than three weeks in my opinion, but.

1845
01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:46,840
Speaker 1: We never know, right, Okay, So I want to go

1846
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 1: back to and Kenny Moore and he points out had

1847
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:51,240
Speaker 1: the same he had a cap strain, missed three weeks.

1848
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 1: I mean to that point right on target there, y yep.

1849
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:55,639
Speaker 1: I want to go back to when you said that

1850
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 1: his description was of concern to you. Is that bec

1851
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 1: because you believe that that description could in fact be

1852
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:06,320
Speaker 1: more than just a calf No.

1853
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 14: No, it just tells me that it's it's not a

1854
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:15,759
Speaker 14: bump in the road. This is a significant muscle injury

1855
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:16,799
Speaker 14: that needs attention.

1856
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:21,760
Speaker 1: Okay, now, Ralph. The other big question mark for the

1857
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 1: Colts is obviously that of Daniel Jones. When and I

1858
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 1: think the average person myself included, you know, like I

1859
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:29,519
Speaker 1: had somebody yesterday said to me like, how in the

1860
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:31,320
Speaker 1: world is this guy playing with a broken leg? And

1861
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:35,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, he has a fracture in his fibula, which,

1862
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 1: as I understand, it could simply be that he has

1863
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:41,320
Speaker 1: like a and I know this sounds incredibly you know,

1864
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 1: a flake of the bone that broke off in the fibula,

1865
01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 1: you know, whatever it might be. When you heard that injury,

1866
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:50,360
Speaker 1: that typically would mean what and can that also be

1867
01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 1: one that then becomes a bigger issue?

1868
01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, So let's I want to talk to you a

1869
01:43:57,040 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 2: little bit about the role of the fibula in the

1870
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 2: lower leg.

1871
01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:05,800
Speaker 14: So you got two big bones below the knee. The

1872
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 14: knee joint is made up by the surface of the tibia,

1873
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:11,880
Speaker 14: which is the really big bone in the lower leg.

1874
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:14,559
Speaker 2: And so when you reach down.

1875
01:44:15,160 --> 01:44:17,320
Speaker 1: Which is the shin like when you you know what

1876
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 1: I mean.

1877
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:20,200
Speaker 14: Exactly right, That's where I was going. The shin bone

1878
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:24,479
Speaker 14: is the tibia. That's a big bone. Yeah, riding along

1879
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:26,720
Speaker 14: in the sidecar of the motorcycle.

1880
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 2: The sidecar is the fibula, all.

1881
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 14: Right, And the fibula is attaches at the bottom. It

1882
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 14: creates that outside of the ankle, but at the top

1883
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:41,759
Speaker 14: it sort.

1884
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 2: Of floats, all right.

1885
01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:51,759
Speaker 14: And so the fibula, its primary purpose is it's a.

1886
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 2: Control box, if you will.

1887
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 14: It's sort of a junction box if you think electronically.

1888
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:59,720
Speaker 14: So the fibula only takes about fifteen percent of the

1889
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:02,840
Speaker 14: box weight when you're standing on it. The tibia does

1890
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 14: all the work what the fibula does, and so there

1891
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 14: are lots of athletes who participate with some injury to

1892
01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 14: their fibula. The one that immediately comes to my mind

1893
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:19,639
Speaker 14: that no one would remember this unless you're a track

1894
01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:23,639
Speaker 14: and field fan, but Manyo Mitchell ran the four by

1895
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:26,879
Speaker 14: four hundred relay in the London Olympics in twenty twelve

1896
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:32,519
Speaker 14: with a fractured fibula, and he was actually mentioned in

1897
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 14: Obama's speech after the Olympics for the team. But he

1898
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 14: Manio ran that complete race with a known fibular fracture.

1899
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 14: So for our quarterback to be out there not surprised,

1900
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:51,240
Speaker 14: here's why he can't move. In Between the fibula and

1901
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:56,559
Speaker 14: the tibia is a web of tissue, and that web

1902
01:45:56,600 --> 01:46:00,760
Speaker 14: of tissue it's called the intererossius membrane.

1903
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:05,439
Speaker 2: That is, it connects the fibula to the tibia.

1904
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:08,800
Speaker 14: But more importantly, the fibula has about seven muscles that

1905
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:09,680
Speaker 14: attach to it.

1906
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 2: So it's.

1907
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 14: Like a differential gear in a car when you go

1908
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:21,600
Speaker 14: around a turn, the differential sort of sways the torque

1909
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:24,960
Speaker 14: from the inside to the outside wheels and so forth.

1910
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:28,600
Speaker 14: That's what the innersius membrane does. It serves as the

1911
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 14: differential of allowing torque to either go through the fibula

1912
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Speaker 14: or go through the tibia. What muscles in the foot

1913
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Speaker 14: that to control the action of the ankle and so

1914
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Speaker 14: for him to follow through and really push off that

1915
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Speaker 14: left leg or to make a rotation a spin out

1916
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Speaker 14: of a tackle. It's excruciating discomfort, not so much from

1917
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 14: the fracture, but because the innersius membrane has been injured

1918
01:46:57,560 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 14: as well, and it has like zero blood flow through it,

1919
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Speaker 14: so it heals really really slow. But it's I would

1920
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Speaker 14: say that most of his pain and his lack of

1921
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Speaker 14: ability to be agile at the level that we saw

1922
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Speaker 14: him earlier pre injury is because of the discomfort and

1923
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Speaker 14: the fact then that your neurologic system just goes ballistic crazy.

1924
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:28,040
Speaker 14: It can't figure out how to compensate and make everything

1925
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Speaker 14: work and feel good.

1926
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Speaker 2: And so Ralph, hopefully that's not too complicated.

1927
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Speaker 1: It's great info. And so the question would be for

1928
01:47:35,560 --> 01:47:40,000
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, would this when you mentioned like the excruciating

1929
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 1: pain that comes with it, and maybe it is simply

1930
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:46,439
Speaker 1: pain more than it is danger, right, But so would

1931
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 1: that most likely present itself when he's trying to cut

1932
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 1: and readirect or when he is simply trying to straight

1933
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:54,599
Speaker 1: line run and get away from something.

1934
01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:58,800
Speaker 2: How about every time he stands on his tiptoes.

1935
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Speaker 14: Okay, so every time he lifts his heel and gets

1936
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:04,240
Speaker 14: into planter flection or he's on the ball of his foot,

1937
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:09,720
Speaker 14: that inerasius membrane is screaming it's just yeah. So then

1938
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:13,240
Speaker 14: when you add in the torque of rotation or quick movements,

1939
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:15,600
Speaker 14: that his brain is saying, hey, I need to do this,

1940
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:20,360
Speaker 14: and his Leg's not following along, and so I mean

1941
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:23,639
Speaker 14: we can see it with our naked eye on TV

1942
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:24,559
Speaker 14: or in person.

1943
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Speaker 2: So imagine the.

1944
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Speaker 14: Slowness that his body is responding to the signal from

1945
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:36,200
Speaker 14: the brain just because yeah, just because of probably what

1946
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 14: is a somewhat minor crack in the fibula just disrupts

1947
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 14: that ineroxious membrane, and thus you've sort of got a

1948
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:47,200
Speaker 14: flat footed quarterback.

1949
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Speaker 1: You know. I figured this out Ralph over this conversation

1950
01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:52,559
Speaker 1: Ralph Reef my guest Java House peeling, poor guest line.

1951
01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:54,840
Speaker 1: When it comes to the makeup of this program, what

1952
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:58,920
Speaker 1: I've figured out, Eddie is the tibia. He's the guy

1953
01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:02,599
Speaker 1: doing all the work. He's the big front structure. I'm

1954
01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:05,599
Speaker 1: just the fibulaus. I'm just the right along guy. I'm

1955
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 1: there to basically just kind of ride along in the sidecar. However,

1956
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:12,920
Speaker 1: I can be a huge pain that. That's basically what

1957
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:13,880
Speaker 1: we've gotten out here, right.

1958
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:17,599
Speaker 14: I think he've capsulated it very well.

1959
01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:20,600
Speaker 5: I think he's close on the He's not on the

1960
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:23,320
Speaker 5: right track. I'm the heartbeat of this operation here. Come on.

1961
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:25,479
Speaker 1: But when it comes to Leg, you're the tibia, right,

1962
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:26,360
Speaker 1: you know.

1963
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:28,880
Speaker 5: Jack, I'm the most important muscle in the body.

1964
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:31,400
Speaker 1: What is the most important muscle in the body? That

1965
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:33,759
Speaker 1: would be the heart? Whatld it not, Ralph?

1966
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 2: It is in my body yet?

1967
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 1: Okay, well there you go, so Eddie, I guess that's right.

1968
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 1: If you're the most important, then you are the heart.

1969
01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:42,000
Speaker 1: Uh Ralph. Lastly, you know, I'm looking right here at

1970
01:49:42,200 --> 01:49:44,400
Speaker 1: ralphreef dot com right and I'm looking at your photo.

1971
01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:45,880
Speaker 1: It looks like you might have been in London or

1972
01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:48,080
Speaker 1: Toronto or something on the photo that was taking of you,

1973
01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:51,559
Speaker 1: and then listening to your voice, and it dawned on

1974
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:53,880
Speaker 1: me this. Do you ever find that when you're at

1975
01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:56,360
Speaker 1: java house or anywhere else and you're just out in public,

1976
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:58,240
Speaker 1: that people just want to come up and talk to

1977
01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 1: you because you just have this folk see presentation, Like

1978
01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 1: your entire period, your entire appearance in persona is that

1979
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:09,160
Speaker 1: of just like like this super nice dude? Did do people?

1980
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:10,840
Speaker 1: Can people just tell that about you, that you're a

1981
01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:12,719
Speaker 1: super nice dude and they come up and just start

1982
01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:13,240
Speaker 1: talking to you?

1983
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 14: Well, normally I need my wife to tell people that

1984
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:21,439
Speaker 14: I'm a nice guy and so, but but you're right,

1985
01:50:21,479 --> 01:50:24,080
Speaker 14: those pictures were that's a whole long story of those

1986
01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 14: pictures on my website were actually.

1987
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:30,120
Speaker 2: Taken in London. Long story, we won't get into it,

1988
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:34,040
Speaker 2: but it was a lot of fun. And but job

1989
01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:35,719
Speaker 2: house man I bought.

1990
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:38,840
Speaker 14: I bought some of the iced tea pods last week

1991
01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:41,599
Speaker 14: get ready for Thanksgiving. Oh yeah, I'm out of them, already,

1992
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:42,639
Speaker 14: out of them already.

1993
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:44,840
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'll tell you what. The mango black tea

1994
01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 1: is outstanding, so too, just the regular black tea and

1995
01:50:47,560 --> 01:50:49,880
Speaker 1: then the peach. Don't even get me started on the peach.

1996
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:55,640
Speaker 1: T fantastic. Eddie keeps stealing mine. Yeah, so yeah, But

1997
01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:58,479
Speaker 1: I hope you had a good Thanksgiving even without the

1998
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 1: iced tea that you short sold or short bought. I

1999
01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 1: hope you did have a good Thanksgiving.

2000
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:05,519
Speaker 14: Ralph, Yeah, we had next one time.

2001
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:06,479
Speaker 2: Thank you very much.

2002
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:09,200
Speaker 1: Appreciate it as always, Ralph. And like I said, I'm

2003
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:11,240
Speaker 1: sure injuries will continue to pop up, and if that's

2004
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:12,720
Speaker 1: the case, we would love to have you back on.

2005
01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:16,439
Speaker 1: But I appreciate the time as always. My pleasure, Ralph

2006
01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:20,760
Speaker 1: Reef joining me again, Ralph Reef dot com. Reef Executive

2007
01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:25,000
Speaker 1: Performance Solutions on the Java House, Peel and poor guest line.

2008
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 1: All right, we'll come back. We'll tell you about what

2009
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:29,000
Speaker 1: is taking place tonight that does not have to do

2010
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:34,559
Speaker 1: with fibulous tibulas or heartbeats. Next a manic Monday. Indeed,

2011
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:37,720
Speaker 1: are we supposed to get snow tonight? Is that right?

2012
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:41,680
Speaker 1: Like starting at six something like that? What did I

2013
01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 1: read this incorrectly? Are we done with the snow? The

2014
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:49,280
Speaker 1: and I can't remember. It's always so weird coming back

2015
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:54,200
Speaker 1: from like a four day weekend like that, because you

2016
01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:58,719
Speaker 1: forget when I say, you know, over the weekend, Friday

2017
01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 1: felt like Saturday, you know, so I don't know what day?

2018
01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:03,320
Speaker 1: What day is it that we got the dusting of snow?

2019
01:52:03,479 --> 01:52:06,160
Speaker 1: Was that Saturday or Sunday? That would have.

2020
01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:11,960
Speaker 5: Been Saturday, right, Saturday? Yes, so to recap, and it

2021
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:13,960
Speaker 5: was supposed to be snow bagetting, that's.

2022
01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:19,880
Speaker 1: Right, meteorological orgy, as I always say. The drumstick Dash

2023
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:24,360
Speaker 1: was fantastic. Thank you to those who participated and were there.

2024
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 1: It was fun to see everybody. It was very cold,

2025
01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:32,640
Speaker 1: no question about that, but fun nonetheless. And then Thanksgiving,

2026
01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 1: thank you for one again I saw, yeah, well and

2027
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 1: Larra Overton I'm sure also right.

2028
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:40,200
Speaker 5: Yes, the two of them, yes, the.

2029
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 1: And then Thanksgiving we had. We did a little bit

2030
01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 1: different this year, but I appreciate and I want to

2031
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 1: give a shout out. And somebody mocked me for this

2032
01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 1: and said like, oh, would they pay you? They didn't

2033
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:57,599
Speaker 1: pay me anything, but I want to point this out.

2034
01:52:57,720 --> 01:53:02,559
Speaker 1: Simply passed this along. So you know, I've been pretty

2035
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:04,960
Speaker 1: open about the fact that, you know, this Thanksgiving for

2036
01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:06,880
Speaker 1: my family. Every year, we would do it at my

2037
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:10,280
Speaker 1: sister's house. And then because of the fact that my

2038
01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:15,600
Speaker 1: dad is currently in you know, a facility, because of

2039
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:18,720
Speaker 1: the fact he had a stroke in July, it just

2040
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 1: kind of became a curve ball of trying to figure

2041
01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:22,760
Speaker 1: out how we were going to do everything this year

2042
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:27,320
Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving. So we decided to bring it to my

2043
01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 1: dad and do it within just the activity center at

2044
01:53:30,600 --> 01:53:34,920
Speaker 1: the facility where he is. And that meant like, well, gosh,

2045
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 1: are we going to you know, cook a bunch of

2046
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:38,800
Speaker 1: food and then bring it and hot plates and everything else,

2047
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:42,240
Speaker 1: and just with everything going on, I don't know if

2048
01:53:42,280 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 1: it was my sister or my mom said, you know what,

2049
01:53:43,840 --> 01:53:47,960
Speaker 1: We're just going to get basically pick up Thanksgiving dinner

2050
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:51,280
Speaker 1: from Kroger and just do it that way and have

2051
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:53,240
Speaker 1: it there at the facility and I got to tell you,

2052
01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:56,519
Speaker 1: not only did they have everything ready to go when

2053
01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 1: we picked it up, but it was it was wonderful.

2054
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:03,200
Speaker 1: I mean it was fabulous. They did an awesome A

2055
01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:04,920
Speaker 1: huge tip of the cap and a huge thank you

2056
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:11,599
Speaker 1: to Kroger because they they just made Thanksgiving, you know,

2057
01:54:12,160 --> 01:54:14,400
Speaker 1: convenient for us. But all it kind of made it special,

2058
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:15,680
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, because we had to come

2059
01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:18,000
Speaker 1: up with a curve ball and they delivered and it

2060
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:19,639
Speaker 1: was And when I say delivered, I mean we picked

2061
01:54:19,680 --> 01:54:23,160
Speaker 1: it up, but they followed through of everything that you

2062
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:27,680
Speaker 1: would want and it was great and certainly enjoyed it

2063
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:29,960
Speaker 1: and the food was great and it was it was

2064
01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:34,760
Speaker 1: just a huge peace of mind. So thank you for that. Friday,

2065
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:37,839
Speaker 1: of course, the I went to go see a Christmas

2066
01:54:37,880 --> 01:54:42,360
Speaker 1: Carol at Irt and it was great. The guy that

2067
01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:45,080
Speaker 1: plays Ebenezer Scrooge every year, Rob, I believe his last

2068
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:50,360
Speaker 1: name is Johansson is He is outstanding and it was

2069
01:54:50,360 --> 01:54:52,560
Speaker 1: a great presentation. We had a great fun with that.

2070
01:54:52,720 --> 01:54:56,840
Speaker 1: And then the Christmas tree lighting. You know, I didn't

2071
01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:58,840
Speaker 1: see it being lit, but I walked around the corner

2072
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:02,560
Speaker 1: we saw that it was so cold outside. Bucket game

2073
01:55:03,040 --> 01:55:05,240
Speaker 1: was what we thought it was going to be. Indiana

2074
01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:07,280
Speaker 1: on their way now for the Big ten championship game

2075
01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 1: against Ohio State coming up Saturday. That's gonna be awesome.

2076
01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:12,480
Speaker 1: We'll talk plenty about that over the course of the week.

2077
01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:15,200
Speaker 1: And then there was the Pacer game, and the Pacers

2078
01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:17,320
Speaker 1: kind of got lost in the shuffle in all of it, right,

2079
01:55:17,400 --> 01:55:19,280
Speaker 1: and the fact that all of this stuff was going on.

2080
01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:21,680
Speaker 1: But Eddie, don't look now, and I know that ray

2081
01:55:21,760 --> 01:55:25,960
Speaker 1: J Dennis they've made, you know, another change on their roster,

2082
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:32,960
Speaker 1: but their start, Jay Huff in particular, they're starting to

2083
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:33,880
Speaker 1: figure it out a little bit.

2084
01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:34,040
Speaker 7: Now.

2085
01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:36,080
Speaker 1: Do I think that they're going to salvage their season

2086
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 1: and get themselves in the playoffs and whatever. No, I'm

2087
01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:41,560
Speaker 1: not going there. But I do think that the Pacers

2088
01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:48,400
Speaker 1: are starting to show. Rick Carlisle gets a ton of

2089
01:55:48,440 --> 01:55:52,600
Speaker 1: credit here because they've just kind of figured out how

2090
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:55,160
Speaker 1: to play with who they have. And you don't have

2091
01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:57,160
Speaker 1: Nie Smith out there, and you don't have Topping out there,

2092
01:55:57,200 --> 01:55:59,720
Speaker 1: and you don't have Halliburton out there, and obviously Turner's gone.

2093
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:04,640
Speaker 1: But but Jay Huff is starting to play quality minutes

2094
01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 1: for them in both rem protection and he can hit

2095
01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:12,200
Speaker 1: threes and and he's kind of surpassed Isaiah Jackson. To

2096
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:16,160
Speaker 1: be honest with Jackson's an interesting one in terms of

2097
01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:19,080
Speaker 1: what you what you want to get out of him

2098
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:21,640
Speaker 1: and how long you you you know, do you extend him?

2099
01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:24,240
Speaker 1: Do you resign him? Those are questions for another time,

2100
01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:27,480
Speaker 1: but they are in action tonight. They're taking on Cleveland

2101
01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:31,360
Speaker 1: for the Cavaliers. That's the second game of the back

2102
01:56:31,360 --> 01:56:34,480
Speaker 1: to back. Where was Cleveland last night? That's a great question.

2103
01:56:34,840 --> 01:56:37,960
Speaker 1: Let me guess, Let me guess. I'm going to guess

2104
01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:43,960
Speaker 1: that Cleveland last night was in Washington. No Milwaukee, no Chicago,

2105
01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:48,120
Speaker 1: no Orlando. No, I'd hit me Cleveland. Oh they were

2106
01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:50,360
Speaker 1: at home? Yeah, okay they.

2107
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:55,400
Speaker 5: They lost to the Boston Celtics one seventeen, one fifteen.

2108
01:56:55,600 --> 01:56:57,160
Speaker 1: I should know that. I think I watched part of it.

2109
01:56:57,280 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 5: Cavaliers have now lost three in a row. In that game,

2110
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:04,280
Speaker 5: Peyton Pritchard had forty two points and a triple double

2111
01:57:04,280 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 5: from Jalen Brown, Havan Melbley's twenty seven and fourteen. Mitchell

2112
01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:13,160
Speaker 5: struggled last night eighteen points. Yeah.

2113
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:16,800
Speaker 1: I mean, beating Chicago is a decent win, right, Although

2114
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:19,520
Speaker 1: Chicago has been so fickle. Yeah. I mean Chicago's up

2115
01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:19,960
Speaker 1: and down right.

2116
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:22,960
Speaker 5: I started six and one, and then they've now lost

2117
01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:26,000
Speaker 5: to the Pacers. I believe they also lost to the

2118
01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:33,200
Speaker 5: Pelicans and the Wizards. I've got Brooklyn on Wednesday, Brooklean. Yeah,

2119
01:57:33,240 --> 01:57:35,000
Speaker 5: they got the four worst teams in the NBA, and

2120
01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:37,040
Speaker 5: they're potentially losing to all four.

2121
01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:42,680
Speaker 1: I have a an ever evolving answer for the question.

2122
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:47,760
Speaker 1: That's one of my most common questions regarding the association

2123
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:51,480
Speaker 1: as we call it, and I will ask that of

2124
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:54,200
Speaker 1: you and see if you jive with me on my answer.

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Speaker 1: And we will also do the crossover and the handuff

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Speaker 1: to John find out what he's got lined up on

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Speaker 1: this man Monday, as we talked about, with a lot

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Speaker 1: going on and it was not a good day yesterday

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Speaker 1: for the Colts. But John will join us. We'll find

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Speaker 1: out what he's got going on. We'll do it next

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Speaker 1: Jay and V'll be in just a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 1: We will get into what he's got going on today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to everybody for participating. Also to those of

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Speaker 1: you who sent in texts at two through nine ten

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Speaker 1: seventy or at my phone number three one seven, five

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Speaker 1: two three ninety two eighty eight, three one seven, five,

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Speaker 1: two three nine two eight eight. I understand people's frustration

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Speaker 1: with the officiating yesterday, but I do think that people

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Speaker 1: are realistic about the fact that they still you know,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of things where they cost themselves.

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Speaker 1: I thought the play calling was one of them. Again, uh, Jake,

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Speaker 1: With all this talk of the Jones injury, did anyone

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Speaker 1: ever say how Jones injury occurred? That from Matt No,

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Speaker 1: I think that might be one of them where they

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Speaker 1: don't know specifically. I don't know that there was any

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Speaker 1: one moment. There was some thought that it was during practice, right.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure they know when it happened. They're just not

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Speaker 5: telling anybody when exactly it happened. They're being very I

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Speaker 5: don't know. Cooy the best, Koy, thank you. Okay, here's

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Speaker 5: my question for you. As I was watching the NBA

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Speaker 5: the other day, Okay, give me them.

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Speaker 1: And I asked this a lot, and it's an ever

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Speaker 1: evolving answer. But I have a late comer to the

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Speaker 1: party on my thought on this. Okay, what's the most

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Speaker 1: obscure franchise in the NBA in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 5: Five this season in twenty twenty one, do.

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Speaker 1: You just never hear about.

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Speaker 5: It's a good one.

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Speaker 1: Like if the NBA came to you and said, Eddie,

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Speaker 1: you've been a really good supporter of our league, so

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Speaker 1: we're gonna reward you with a franchise. We're gonna give

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Speaker 1: you a franchise. You're gonna be the owner of an

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Speaker 1: NBA franchise, and you get super giddy about it. You're

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Speaker 1: excited about it obviously, right, who wouldn't want to be

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Speaker 1: a franchise owner? And then they tell you the franchise governor,

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Speaker 1: what's the one where you'd be like, really, that's the

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Speaker 1: franchise I get? I mean, am I gonna sell any merchandise?

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Speaker 1: I'm never on television? Okay, I don't even I don't

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Speaker 1: even know that I find the market viable. Which franchise

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Speaker 1: would make you feel that way?

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Speaker 5: I think it's a Western Conference team. The first one

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Speaker 5: that comes to mind. I don't know about you, The

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Speaker 5: Utah Jazz.

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Speaker 1: Okay, fair, I mean I'm still old enough that I

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Speaker 1: think of the Utah Jazz, as.

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Speaker 5: You're saying right now, the most obscure team.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty five. I mean, Utah is up there,

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Speaker 1: for sure. Utah is up there. No question, Utah is

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Speaker 1: a good answer. I'm going, do you want to guess

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Speaker 1: my guess? I'd say the New Orleans Pelicans thing. Go,

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Speaker 1: that's it. I mean, I know that Zion Williamson is

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Speaker 1: a you know, at least in terms of what he

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Speaker 1: could be like a start, But I feel like people

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Speaker 1: are kind of over him at this point. But you

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Speaker 1: just never they seem star crossed, right, And even when

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Speaker 1: you see it on the schedule, You're like, Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I forgot there's a team down there, right, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean?

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Speaker 5: I think they forget they have a team down there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you forget that. Now, let me ask you this.

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Speaker 1: I think I know this correctly. If you were a

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Speaker 1: season ticket holder for the Charlotte Bobcats and you kept

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Speaker 1: your tickets throughout what franchise would you currently be a

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Speaker 1: season ticket holder for?

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Speaker 5: If you were the Charlotte Bobcats.

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Speaker 1: If you were an original Charlotte Bobcats season ticket holder

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Speaker 1: and you kept your tickets throughout what franchise would you

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Speaker 1: currently be a season ticket holder?

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Speaker 5: Would it not be the Hornets?

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Speaker 1: No? I don't think I think I'm correcting. This isn't it.

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Speaker 1: The Pelicans didn't the Charlotte Bobcats become then the Charlotte Hornets,

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Speaker 1: and then they moved to New Orleans and with the

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Speaker 1: New Orleans Hornets for like a year before they change

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Speaker 1: to the Pelicans. And then the city of Charlotte got

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Speaker 1: an expansion and that was the Hornets. Am I correcting that?

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Speaker 1: On my way off base? Like I know this. If

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Speaker 1: you were a season ticket holder for the Buffalo Braves,

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Speaker 1: you would now be a season ticket holder for the

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Clippers because they went from the Buffalo Braves

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Speaker 1: to the San Diego Clippers to the Los Angeles Clippers.

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Speaker 1: Are you looking right now?

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Speaker 5: Shortly after relocation of the team to New Orleans, as

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Speaker 5: a part of the deal the city of Charlotte as

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Speaker 5: well as to avoiding Cleveland Browns like lawsuit, the NBA

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Speaker 5: promise that Charlotte would get a new expansion franchise. Coinly,

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Speaker 5: the NBA opened itself to the possibility of adding a

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Speaker 5: replacement team and Charlotte from for the two thousand and

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Speaker 5: four to two thousand and five.

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Speaker 1: Okay, season, So the Hornets that are in Charlotte right

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Speaker 1: now are totally separate from the Bobcats. The Bobcats became

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Speaker 1: the New Orleans Hornets, and then the New Orleans Pelicans. Correct,

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Speaker 1: And that J and V just walked in, Is that right, John?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 1: Bye? Yeah, the New Orleans Pelican.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 1: Are they originally the Charlotte Bobkins?

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Speaker 3: They are?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so the Bobcats. But then the Bobcats became

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Speaker 1: the Hornets. Right.

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Speaker 15: For a brief time it wasn't was it who was

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Speaker 15: the bob That was the Bobcats own order b et guy?

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Speaker 1: Correct? Yeah, correct, that's why they were called the Bobcats. Yes,

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Speaker 1: then they changed it to Hornets, moved to New Orleans, right,

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Speaker 1: gave up Hornets.

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Speaker 5: And then to Melicans.

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Speaker 1: Correct, And Charlotte got a new team called.

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Speaker 15: The Hornets, and they'll be in Seattle here in about

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Speaker 15: how long they're going to be in Seattle?

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Speaker 1: I mean it certainly feels that way, right, or Vegas

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Speaker 1: or Vega or Vegas?

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Speaker 5: What's up with you over there?

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you know. You and I were

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Speaker 1: there yesterday. And Jones's mobility and Gardener's injury. I mean,

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Speaker 1: those were the two big storylines. But frustrating, noneth the

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Speaker 1: last I know, that play call in the end is

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Speaker 1: what everybody's talking about. But just a game that multiple occasions,

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Speaker 1: I thought that they fell short of what they needed

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Speaker 1: to do to grasp the game itself. And now all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, here we are. But what's lined up

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Speaker 1: on your big show today?

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Speaker 5: We will do?

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Speaker 15: I think we're thirty minutes minus thirty minutes today because

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Speaker 15: the roundtable on the pacers, So I'm assuming holder and

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Speaker 15: will bow out respectfully. But now this week ought to

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Speaker 15: be fun though, Hey, Bullseye passes too for that pre

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Speaker 15: Big ten party, which should be a blast downtown. I'm

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Speaker 15: in a place on Friday called Tiebreakers on Mass f

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Speaker 15: Have you heard of it? Tyebreakers?

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Speaker 1: I have not. Have you been there?

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Speaker 5: Never been there?

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Speaker 15: It's got to be new because I've been there, like everything?

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Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, so Tiebreakers? Where is it? On Mass?

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Speaker 15: I go so far back. I was at Beefo Brady's

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Speaker 15: when I first started.

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Speaker 1: The beef Is there still a Beefo Brady's bull by

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Speaker 1: the way?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 15: I think Beefo Brady's are in the South Beefo Brady's.

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Speaker 15: Here's another one, Majors Sports pub in Carmel. There's a

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Speaker 15: place called Majors. How about mud Sox and oh hell,

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Speaker 15: Hazeldell was mud Sox.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well that I mean that makes sense because that's

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Speaker 1: there's a whole you know, the mud Sox ride.

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Speaker 15: At the time Ken Sterling came to watch the show

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Speaker 15: and see how I was doing.

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Speaker 1: Is that when he said you're unique and organic? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think he did.

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Speaker 15: Actually he was working here and he won something from

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Speaker 15: ndehdue respect to camp, there's nothing more nerdy than that. Seriously, So,

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Speaker 15: so you were working for w I was working for

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Speaker 15: NDE doing a live show, and he was there and

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Speaker 15: won something and he was working here at the time.

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Speaker 1: Did he accept the price?

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Speaker 5: He's can't Sterling.

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Speaker 15: Of course, he's giggling all the way down the hallway.

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Speaker 1: Did he make a video about it?

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Speaker 5: He made a video about it?

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Speaker 15: No, with all news meant to kid, would if you

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Speaker 15: won something from a different station, would you do it?

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Speaker 1: Would you get it?

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Speaker 5: Would you take it?

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Speaker 1: Highly unlikely? How's that highly unlikely? Pacers in action tonight.

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Speaker 1: I will be there ethical. We're ethical, We're unique and organic.

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Speaker 1: It's what we are. That is the crossover, by the way,

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Speaker 1: but award winning nonetheless, and we will be back with

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Speaker 1: you at noon tomorrow. I thank you for listening to

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Speaker 1: the Quarrying Company.