1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Live from Vall Heartland and the Crossroads of America. 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 3: As we reported on yesterday, Trump has Israel and Hamas 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 3: in the rear view. 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: The fact that. 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 3: Hamas isn't turning over these remains as fast as was 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: demanded as part of the deal. You're hearing about possibility 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 3: of more strikes going on by the IDF on Hamas 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: targets in Gaza. President Trump is saying, I'm off that subject. 10 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 3: I've got peace. 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,319 Speaker 4: I'm now on. 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 3: To Russia and Ukraine. Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, Good 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: to be with you. Find everything at tonykats dot com. 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: I am curious to know what it is he thinks 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: he can get done there because that involves getting hootin 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 3: to the table. You can't get to the table through kindness. 17 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: He knows this, and he now has to ask himself 18 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 3: exactly what pressure points can be utilized to make Russia 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: say this isn't going to be fun anymore. 20 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:12,639 Speaker 2: That's the question. 21 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: Russia can outlast Ukraine if NATO gets involved, European forces 22 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: end up on the ground. NATO is able to utilize 23 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: military hardware, including tomahawks. It becomes a level of unfun 24 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: for Vladimir Putin. The thing is just tougher. That doesn't 25 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: mean he still can't go forward. 26 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 2: Of course he can. 27 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 3: He has a total willingness to lose as many lives 28 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 3: as possible. He has an absolute willingness to drone attack 29 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: in Kiev and in other strategic spots. He's unconcerned about 30 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: those things. So with that, with that, what actually is 31 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 3: the pressure point? 32 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: Is it money? Is it bodies? 33 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: Is it some level of unrest in Moscow that threatens 34 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: his throne? 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: We can call the thrown at this stage of the game. 36 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 3: Maybe, maybe, maybe maybe I think that the argument is 37 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: what exactly is the thing that would make him. 38 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: Say, all right, let's take the off ramp. 39 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: I still get the land, right, I still get Danetsk 40 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: and La Hans and Japorgia and these areas, because what 41 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: Trump has said is I don't see any reason why 42 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: Ukraine can push them back to their original line, their 43 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: original boundaries. So now is Putin in a position where 44 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: he has to fight for the thing that he was 45 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: gonna get when he met Trump in Anchorage. 46 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: I'm telling you he was gonna get land. 47 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 3: That meeting with the world leaders was to tell Zelenski 48 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: you're gonna give this up and we're all gonna. 49 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: Go have coffee. That's it. That was the plan, and 50 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: then it was it was Putin who blew it up. 51 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 2: And now it's a different formation. 52 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: You've got an NATO leader route who wants to fight seemingly, 53 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 3: and you've poed Trump enough. 54 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: Where he's like, yeah, let's give him some hell and 55 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: see what happens. So now we're going to see what happens. 56 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: But when he tells us that he's focusing attention on 57 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: Russia and Ukraine, I'm not sure yet what it means 58 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 3: that we have to find out. 59 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today. 60 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 5: I'm the only Democrat in my family. I grew up 61 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 5: in a conservative part of Pennsylvania, and I grew up 62 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 5: and I know and I love people that voted for 63 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 5: President Trump. But they are not fascists, they're not Nazis, 64 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 5: they're not trying to destroy her the constitution most. 65 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: And that's why John Fetterman will no longer be the 66 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: Senator from Pennsylvania because the Democrats are going to primary 67 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: challenge the living daylights out of him. You already have 68 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: axios with the story that this is the plan. He 69 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: spoke at a town hall event there on News Nation 70 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: and said, I disagree with people. It doesn't make them fascists. Lord, 71 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: they tried to assassinate Charlie Kirk. We toned down the 72 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: rhetoric and for that he will be destroyed. Tony Katz, 73 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 3: Tony Katz today, Great to be with you. Ed Morrissey 74 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: joins me right now, the Coppo Detuty Coppo over at 75 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: hot air dot com. That's where you find his work 76 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: at Morrissey on the Twitter xbox. We're gonna get into Fetterman, 77 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: but you've got a story. And I commented on this. 78 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: If people check out my show sheet over there at 79 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 3: Tony Katz dot com, you write panic at the demsco 80 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 3: as opposed to disco. Obama jumps in to save Spamberger 81 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: in Virginia. This is the gubernatorial candidate, the Democrat, Abigail Spamberger, 82 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: who's just getting walloped every which way but loose by 83 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: the Republican Lieutenant Governor Winsome. Earl Sears is her name, 84 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: specifically because Spamberger won't denounce the Attorney general candidate Jay Jones, 85 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: who said that the Republican Speaker of the House of 86 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: Virginia should be killed along with his two kids. And 87 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 3: when you see Obama supporting Spamberger, just like you see 88 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: Obama going in to California saying, you know what, we 89 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 3: should redistrict, the translation only comes out to my god, 90 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 3: they really are feeling some desperation here. Ed Morrissey, talk 91 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 3: to me about what's going on in this Virginia race 92 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: and Obama's entrance. 93 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: Well, I mean you've covered it pretty well here, Tony. 94 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: This is not the first time that Obama's done this. 95 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: People may forget this, but he had to do this 96 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: four years ago to try to save Terry mccalli's campaign 97 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: in the Good minatorial election in which Glenn Youngkin want 98 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: a surprise victory. And this is you know, Terry mccaulliff. 99 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: His big problem was that he equated parents showing up 100 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: to school board meetings to domestic terrorism. Now this is 101 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: right after January sixth, and Democrats thought that the January 102 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: sixth narrative was a winner for elections, and Terry mccalliff 103 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: went all in on that and ended up getting spanked 104 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: in the general election, and surprisingly so by Glenn Youngkin. 105 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: They're doing the same thing here, and it's really mystifying 106 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: to me what the calculation is here, because j Jones 107 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: may or may not have won the attorney general race 108 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: without these Without these texts coming out, I think he 109 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: was slightly ahead against the incumbent Jason Miarrez. But an 110 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: AG race is not as important as a gubernatorial race. 111 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: And they you know, the rule in politics is usually 112 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: very practical. If somebody becomes a liability, you cut them 113 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: off right you you dumped them, You denounce them and 114 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: save your own skin. Democrats have not done that with 115 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: Jay Jones, even though j Jones was stupid enough to 116 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: put this in a reproducible media texting. Right, this idea 117 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: that I forget the name of the speaker, but Todd 118 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: I can't recall his last name. 119 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: Todd Gilbert and his children, Todd. 120 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: Todd Gilbert, thank you very Todd Gilbert and his children 121 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: should be murdered so that Republicans vote better on policy issues, 122 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: which was then followed up by claims that he had 123 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: also said that law enforcement officers should be killed in 124 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: order to reduce police shootings. That's the type of thing 125 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: that is far worse than anything the Koloff ever did 126 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: or said. And Spanburger just as decided to stick with him, 127 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: and so has Tim Caine, so has Mark Warner, so 128 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: as the entire Democrat establishment now including Barack Obama. He's 129 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: going there to rescue Spanburger because Spanburger won't denounce Jones. 130 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: And so basically, this is the upshot of this is 131 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: that Jones scandal is going to infect Democrats nationally because 132 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: they're nationalizing this election by bringing in Obama rather than 133 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: just say Jones is a moron and you shouldn't vote 134 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: for him. I mean, it's pretty or at least we're 135 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: not going to endorse him. You know, make up your 136 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: own mind on Jones, but we're no longer endorsing him 137 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: after seeing those messages. It's very simple, and it would 138 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: have been very understandable to cut him loose. Instead, they're 139 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: doubling down on stupid and they're bringing in Obama to 140 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: try to score the double down. 141 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: Talking to Edmarssey of hotair dot Com, there are a 142 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: lot of names, So let's break it down to a 143 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 3: more component, a basic component understanding of what it is 144 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: that we're seeing here. What we're seeing here is that 145 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: when a bunch of morons on the political right are 146 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: involved in group text talking joyfully about Hitler, mocking Jews, 147 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: mocking black people, using the N word, all these things. 148 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: It's the end of civilization as we know it. And 149 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: you'll see people on the political rights say, yeah, that's dumb. Sorry, 150 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: you're going to lose your job. No, you can't be 151 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 3: connected to at least to phonic you know, you can't 152 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: be connected to this one, that one, the other one. 153 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: You got to go. You're out of a job. Maybe 154 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 3: you'll learn, maybe you'll get better and smarter. You can 155 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: come back in ten years. But the political left doesn't 156 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 3: look at their own house and. 157 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: Say this is unacceptable. 158 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: So people don't want to get on the case of 159 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: these people on the political right because the left doesn't 160 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: get on the case of the political left. I argue 161 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 3: that what we're seeing on the political left should be 162 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: called out on every level. This call for violence is 163 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: will for the willingness for violence, the obscenity. But when 164 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,599 Speaker 3: you see it in your own side, you got to 165 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: say that that's wrong. That's the that's the play that 166 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 3: actually moves people. Am I wrong about that? 167 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: No? 168 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: No, I think you're right, and not just because it's 169 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: strategic or tactical, just because it's the right. 170 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 2: Right, too. 171 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: You should tell people. You should tell people who are 172 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: saying yay Hitler to go pound sand. However, there is 173 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: there is a difference between a group of you know 174 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: what we could probably you know, you know, sarcastically referred 175 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: to as NPC's non player characters having a group chat someplace, 176 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: and having somebody who's actually running for office talking about 177 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: cheering on the murder Act as opponent's children. That's a 178 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: whole different thing. This is an actual candidate for office 179 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: who's saying this, right, and he was in office at 180 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: the time he was saying it. He was a state 181 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: legislator at the time that he was saying that. He 182 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,599 Speaker 1: was texting this argument. And so there's it's a completely 183 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: different issue. I mean, yeah, you can go you can 184 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: go troll Discord and find idiots across the spectrum saying 185 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: idiotic things. This is a guy who's actually running for 186 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: state wide office in Virginia on the Democrat ticket, and 187 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: and he's been he said these things. He said a 188 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: number of things that are very radical and just morally repugnant, 189 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: and Democrats are refusing to police their own situation. It's 190 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: it's amazing to me. I think it's I mean, we 191 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: can talk a little bit more about the era of 192 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: shamelessness in politics that's been ever since Bill Clinton waggled 193 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: a finger at a podium said I did not have 194 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: sexual relations with that woman. 195 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:59,359 Speaker 2: What kind of impression is that. That's your impression. 196 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: That's as good as it gets on a Thursday morning. 197 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: Come on now, Okay, by the way, can you speak 198 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 3: to people who wag their fingers at others? Can you 199 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 3: do the impression of Nancy Pelosi yelling at a reporter 200 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 3: shut up, don't talk to me about January sixth You 201 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 3: don't understand what I understand. It's all Trump's falk. That's 202 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 3: all it is. Like, that's not bad, That's not bad 203 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi. In my view, what about you got one? 204 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 2: It would be Nancy Pelosi. 205 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: If Nancy Pelosi was on the Upper West Side, I 206 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: think that that's right. Nancy Pelosi is though she was 207 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: from the Upper West Side. But still, yeah, neither one 208 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: of us should go into the impersonation industry. I don't 209 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: think we have I don't. I think we should both 210 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: keep our day jobs. 211 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 3: That says you talking to Ed Morrissey of hotair dot com. 212 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: Impersonations is my day job. The But you want to 213 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: talk about wagging the finger, you want to talk about 214 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 3: coming in and saying I'm above it on you should 215 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 3: listen to me. That's this, this Barack Obama story going 216 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 3: into Virginia thinking he could save it for her. He's 217 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: now in favor of redistricting and talking about this in California. 218 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 3: Barack Obama today is not the Barack Obama of ten 219 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: years ago. He doesn't have the juice that he used 220 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 3: to have. That's not me being engaging in hyperbole or 221 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 3: just oh because he's a Democrat. This is the data. 222 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: He doesn't have this play. Look what he was doing 223 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 3: about black men in the Kamala Harris election and how 224 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 3: much that backfired. 225 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 2: Barack Obama's going to make the difference for Democrats. 226 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. He didn't make the difference 227 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: for Democrats four years ago. And he had more juice 228 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: back then, right, He was more relevant four years ago, 229 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 1: especially in the aftermath of January sixth, and before all 230 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: this stuff started coming out about how they basically cooked 231 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: up the Russia collusion allegations against Donald Trump. He's got 232 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: much less juice these days, and he's barely showed up. 233 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: He's too busy making movies. I guess at Netflix or 234 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: building that really interesting looking Presidential library in Chicago looks 235 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: like a disaster unfolding in slow motion. There. He's just 236 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: not He's not part of the conversation anymore. I will 237 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,599 Speaker 1: say this, the failure of the expert class that Obama 238 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: curated in the pandemic and then in the Middle East, 239 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: I think makes his position even makes him even less 240 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: relevant than he was, say two months ago, three months ago. 241 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: I think Barack Obama taking out Rand's nuclear facilities and 242 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: putting an end to that threat once and for all 243 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: made Barack Obama. It really exposed Barack Obama as as 244 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: a diletante thinker on the world stage and made Obama 245 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: is am completely irrelevant. And he's going to go in there. 246 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: He's going to fire up the federal workers in northern Virginia, 247 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: maybe who weren't going to vote for win some earl 248 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: series in the first place. But I think that there's 249 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: a potential here for backfire by sticking Obama in front 250 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: of the entirety of Virginia and thinking that it might 251 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: not result in a higher turnout among people who just 252 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: don't like Obama in the rest of Virginia. I think 253 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: that they're doubling down on stupid in Virginia. 254 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: Talk to Ed Marscy of hotair dot com. 255 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 3: Let's go back now to something we were discussing with 256 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 3: John Fetterman, who does this town hall on News Nation 257 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 3: there at the Kennedy Center. Just because you disagree with 258 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 3: me doesn't make you a fascist. Republicans are not fascist. 259 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 3: Trump supporters are not fascist. We have to stop this 260 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: and then being very honest about what this shutdown is. 261 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 5: Then party and it's the wrong thing for the country 262 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 5: in a period of chaos. I refuse to vote to 263 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 5: shut our government down. 264 00:14:53,680 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 4: I absolutely would love to have I would love to 265 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 4: have a. 266 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 5: Conversation about extending the tax credits for healthcare. Absolutely, But 267 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 5: I would remind everybody too, this was designed by the 268 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 5: Democratic Party to. 269 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 4: Expire at the end of the year. 270 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 5: This is not something taken from by the Republicans. 271 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 3: And for that, Ed Marscy, for the honesty and of 272 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 3: course clearly for the support of Israel's existence and calling 273 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: from as the terrorists that they are, the Democrats have 274 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 3: the long knives out. He's going to be a one 275 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 3: term senator. True or false? 276 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know that he's going to be a 277 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: one term senator. He's got options here. They're certainly going 278 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: to try to make him a one term senator, and 279 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: I would I think it's not because of the shutdown. 280 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that has anything to do with it. 281 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: They are going to make him. They're going to try 282 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: to make him a one term senator because of his 283 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: position on Israel and because he's basically the moral center 284 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: of the Democrat Caucus as it is right now, and 285 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: the radical left doesn't like it. And you know, I 286 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: did a little research on it this morning, because I've 287 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: written a piece about this. I went to guv Track 288 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: and looked at his voting record or what they what 289 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: they call the ideological positioning of this of the Senate 290 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: in the previous Congress. This is, you know, twenty twenty 291 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: three to twenty twenty five. John Fetterman is the sixteenth 292 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: most left leaning senator in the United States Senate. You 293 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: know who scores much worse than him in terms of 294 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: ideology with the radical left, Adam Schiff. Adam Schiff is 295 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: actually slightly to the right of Lisa Rokowski this on 296 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: this list. Chuck Schumer is farther to the right like 297 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: by fifteen positions farther to the right than John Fetterman. 298 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: John Fetterman votes with this party. John Fetterman basically votes 299 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: with the hard left, not as much as say Bernie 300 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: Sanders does or Mazy Herono does. 301 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: But he's sixteenth. 302 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: He's not even the center of the caucus. He's to 303 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: the left of the center of his own So you 304 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: have to ask yourself, why are they trying to Why 305 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: are they trying to get rid of him. It's certainly 306 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: not because of his voting record. It's because of his 307 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: moral strength and his moral positioning. They don't like it, 308 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: and they want to get rid of him so that 309 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: they get somebody in there who will let the radical 310 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: left do whatever the radical left wants to do without 311 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: shaming them. And that's the only reason why Democrats in 312 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania would want to get rid of Fetterman. He's basically 313 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: doing exactly what they elected him to do, to be 314 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: a left leaning senator from Pennsylvania. 315 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,719 Speaker 3: And why on the national scene they will burn him 316 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 3: to the ground. We will see if Pennsylvanians see it differently. 317 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 3: I look forward to the Selena Zito kind of reporting 318 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 3: to see where a people in western Michigan, western Pennsylvania 319 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 3: are really at Before I let you go at Marcihotair 320 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 3: dot com. 321 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 2: I shared this yesterday. 322 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 3: You wrote about this yesterday Harry Enton talking about the 323 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 3: shutdown and where Democrats all are heading into the midterms 324 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: and anybody who thinks this shutdown is playing into their hands, 325 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 3: they're doing great. Schumer saying where we're getting our position 326 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 3: is getting stronger every day. It isn't showing in the polling. 327 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: It's not showing what the people at. 328 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: No And I went looking past where Entin looks for polling. 329 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: I think he was looking at one specific poll which 330 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: shows that it hasn't changed. The generic ballad is still 331 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: D plus three, which is not good for Democrats, by 332 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: the way, They really need a D plus five at 333 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: least in order to gain seats. But I went and 334 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: looked at Real Clear Politics, and actually it's a D one. 335 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: D plus one point nine is of yesterday the average, 336 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: which is not far off from where Entin's at, but 337 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: that actually has dropped in the last two weeks of 338 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: the shutdown. They went from D three point six to 339 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: D one point nine. There's a there's apparently been an 340 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: impact with the shutdown, but it's the exact opposite impact 341 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: that Democrats want. People are unhappy with the shutdown, and 342 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: people are unhappy with the general direction. And those polls 343 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: basically reflect the political situation prior to Donald Trump getting 344 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: the hostages out of Gaza, and I suspect that those 345 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: poles are going to look a little bit different over 346 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. That may not be a 347 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: laughing impact, depending on what else happens. 348 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: In the Middle East. 349 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: But Donald Trump came back to the US with a 350 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: lot more strength than he left it on the basis 351 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: of getting those hostages out. And I think that after 352 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: this weekends, no King's demonstrations, Shuck's going to fall it. 353 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: Let's find out. Ed Marrissey hootair dot com. I appreciate 354 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 3: you taking the time. More is coming up to keep 355 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 3: it here. I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz Today. 356 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 3: Another day of the shutdown is going on, and I'm 357 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 3: here to tell you that if the Democratic Party sees 358 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 3: a win, they're not looking at what the rest of 359 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 3: us are looking at. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good 360 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 3: to be with you, the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson. 361 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 3: We look to the podium again to say, hey, Democrats, 362 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 3: what are you doing for. 363 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 6: The security of our country if you're keeping count? Nine 364 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 6: times now, nine times the Senate Democrats have voted to 365 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 6: keep the government closed. All the House Democrats except one 366 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 6: voted September nineteenth to shut it down. So this is 367 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 6: ten total times now that Democrats in Congress have voted 368 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 6: to close the government. 369 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 7: And we know what that means for real people. 370 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 6: We know what it means for our troops and our 371 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 6: border patrol agents and TSA agents and air traffic controllers 372 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 6: and everybody who relies upon services around the country. 373 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 7: It's very real. 374 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 6: And so today marks yet another day of American families 375 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 6: feeling the very real personal and economic strain of this 376 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 6: reckless decision that our Democrat colleagues keep making. They want 377 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 6: the United States government to remain closed, and they seem 378 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 6: not to care about the pain that it's causing. They 379 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 6: have offered no plan, they have offered no strategy, They 380 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 6: have offered no common sense path forward for ending this situation. 381 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 6: And so many of you have asked, all of us, 382 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 6: how will end We have no idea. It's up to 383 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,479 Speaker 6: the Democrats and they have to decide it. And judging 384 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 6: by their outrageous behavior, the Democrats appear perfectly happy to 385 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 6: keep the political theater going while real people suffer. 386 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: Now this signals to anybody who's paying attention that what 387 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 3: the Republicans are doing for the first time or very infrequently, 388 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 3: let's call it very infrequently, right, how would I know 389 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 3: the first time? They're not going to bend. They're not 390 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 3: going to yield. Now, at least in the House, they're 391 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 3: not gonna ben, they're not gonna yeld. You'll notice as 392 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 3: a speaker Johnson not set up Majority Leader Thoon engage 393 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 3: in these conversations. They're not going to give in. They 394 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 3: don't care what the Democrats throw, what names they throw, 395 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 3: all the rest. You're killing grandma, you're doing this. You 396 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 3: have to vote for the clean resolution, the continuing resolution. 397 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 2: That's what you have to do. 398 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 3: And you know we were talking about uh, John Fetterman 399 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 3: and how now it is that they are going to 400 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 3: go after. 401 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 2: Him on the political left. 402 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 3: Well, allow me, there's no doubt that they are going 403 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 3: to try and get him out of office and vilify 404 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 3: him for saying this last night. 405 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 5: And is really what the Democratic Party wants to do? 406 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 5: And I follow country then Party, and it's the wrong 407 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 5: thing for the country in a period of chaos. I 408 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 5: refuse to vote to shut our government down. 409 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 4: I absolutely would love to have I would love to have. 410 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 5: A conversation about extending the tax credits for healthcare. Absolutely, 411 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 5: but I would remind everybody too, this was designed by 412 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 5: the Democratic Party to expire at the end of the year. 413 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 5: This is not something taken from by the Republicans. That's 414 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 5: they were designed to expire. Now, let's have a conversation 415 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 5: to extend. 416 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 3: It, go ahead, But to admit that it was voted 417 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 3: on the Inflation Reduction Act, which it was by all 418 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 3: the Democrats, and that the Democrats knew what sunset at 419 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 3: the end of twenty twenty five. And to turn around 420 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 3: and say Republicans are creating a healthcare crisis. 421 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: Is a lie. 422 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: Fetterman is the honest guy here. We have been honest 423 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 3: about this the entire time. And what Republicans are saying 424 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 3: is you can tell you can scream about us in 425 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 3: healthcare all you want. The American people don't buy it anymore, 426 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 3: and we aren't going to break This is on you, 427 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer, figure it out. 428 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 6: And that's why House Republicans made the responsible decision for 429 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 6: our members to spend this week in their districts working 430 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 6: for the people. They're helping their constituents, They're helping the 431 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 6: American people navigate the mess that the Democrats have created. 432 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 6: Staying back to work with our constituents was a decision 433 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 6: that we made very thoughtfully, and we made collectively as 434 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 6: a group House Republicans. 435 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 7: We have so much of that work to do. 436 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 6: That's not some talking point, it's not some strategic tactic. 437 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 7: We made that decision out of urgent necessity. 438 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 6: So I want to highlight here just this morning, just 439 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 6: very briefly, just a couple of examples, a small sample, 440 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 6: some of the very important work that House Republicans are 441 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 6: doing on the ground right now to help Americans through 442 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 6: this difficult time. In the state of Michigan, for example, 443 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 6: our members are sitting down with veterans, men and women 444 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 6: who risk their lives for our country, and they're struggling 445 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 6: now because the services they depend on. Health services, for example, 446 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 6: have come to a halt thanks to the Schumer shutdown. 447 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 6: So in Michigan, our Republicans from the House or they 448 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 6: are working through those situations. In Texas, many of our 449 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 6: Republican colleagues have met with some of our brave border 450 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 6: patrol agents down on that southern border who are still 451 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 6: reporting for duty without a paycheck. 452 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 7: In Montana, Congressman. 453 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 6: Ryan Zinki helped park rangers who are keeping the parks 454 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 6: open as best they can for families and travelers, even 455 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 6: as they themselves go without a paycheck. Across the Midwest, 456 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 6: we have members who are meeting with local and regional 457 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 6: airports to your firsthand how furloughs and blocked paychecks there 458 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 6: are hurting the people who keep our skies safe, really 459 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 6: important stuff. And rural communities around the country, Republicans are 460 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 6: working hand in hand with their local hospitals to make 461 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 6: sure that the fifty billion dollar rural hospital fund that 462 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 6: Republicans got signed in a law in July fourth is accessed. 463 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 3: Now, all of that is seen as a lot of 464 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: political bluster. The way you tell the story about here's 465 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: what we appropriate and here's how it's helping rural hospitals 466 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 3: is not through a statement from the Speaker of the 467 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 3: House in a very very low key voice from the podium. Rather, 468 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 3: you do that through a visual medium of messaging. It's 469 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 3: almost filmmaking in that regard. So This is not the 470 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 3: argument that is going to most capture people. This is 471 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 3: the argument that makes people close their eyes. So he 472 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 3: doesn't want to be in that he shouldn't want to 473 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,479 Speaker 3: be in that part of it. Don't lose what is 474 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 3: clearly momentum. Don't lose any level of focus. It is 475 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 3: about what it is that the Democrats are keeping from 476 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 3: the American people and who it is that the Democrats 477 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 3: are hurting. Through other mediums, you discuss who it is 478 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 3: Republicans are helping. That's just about how you present the 479 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 3: entirety of the conversation. 480 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 7: To parties that could not be more clear. 481 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 6: As we say here every day, this is not your 482 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 6: grandfather's Democratic Party. It truly has become the far left 483 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 6: Marxist left that are running that whole operation, and it 484 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 6: has real effects on real people. And I just want 485 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 6: you to highlight again the split screen of what we're 486 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 6: seeing in America right now. There are two diametrically opposed 487 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 6: visions for the country. And you should look at the 488 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 6: action of elected officials and not their words. And what 489 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 6: are the actions President Trump and Republicans are delivering for 490 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 6: the American people. We have cut their taxes, we are 491 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 6: removing red tape and regulations to get the economy humming again. 492 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 6: We have ended the border crisis virtually zero crossings in 493 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 6: the last four months. 494 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 7: Under President Trump. 495 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 6: We are ending the crime crisis around America, taking heroic 496 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 6: measures to make sure that happens. We're cutting fraud, waste, 497 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 6: and abuse out of government and making government more efficient 498 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 6: and effective for the people. And right now President Trump 499 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 6: is resolving international conflicts, restoring peace through strength around the globe. 500 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: This is exactly it. Don't engage the other stuff. This 501 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 3: is how you engage it. 502 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: And he was talking about the contrast between the two parties. 503 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 2: This is correct. 504 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 3: There is a large scale difference between the two parties. 505 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 3: And I always have people who look at me askew 506 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 3: when we engage this, and they get angry with me 507 00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 3: when we engage this. I get, I understand, and I appreciate, 508 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 3: and I do not think you're wrong. When you discuss 509 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 3: the idea of the uniparty, I hear you out loud. 510 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 3: I understand that you're saying that these two parties they 511 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 3: you know, Democrats spend and Republicans spend slower, and somehow 512 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 3: it's okay. There's never a moment of real cuts, of 513 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 3: real savings of real Hey what about the American people? 514 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: What about me? Dang it? 515 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 3: And I think that that's an incredibly important thing to 516 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: note that there is too much chumminess that takes place. 517 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 3: It's way too much. I don't disagree. But the idea 518 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 3: that there's no difference between these parties, sorry, that's just 519 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 3: not real. 520 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 2: That's just not true. 521 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 3: Vote for Republican, vote for the Democrat, get the same thing. 522 00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 3: Maybe on some subjects, but not on all subjects. It's 523 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 3: not true about the border, is it? Hold on, it's 524 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 3: a uniparty. They're all the same. They're clearly not all 525 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 3: the same. So therefore the uniparty conversation doesn't work engaging 526 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 3: areas where Republicans don't act like Republicans. That is extremely worthy, 527 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 3: and that happens a lot. 528 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 2: But does it happen all the time. No. 529 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 3: The uniparty argument is the argument of weakness, which is 530 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 3: to say that people who make that argument are weak. 531 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 3: They're unwilling to say, listen, there is this over here, 532 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 3: and this over here and this over here, and part 533 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 3: of it, the other part of it is they don't 534 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 3: think that you can handle that argument, so they go 535 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 3: about engaging it this way and broad brush it. 536 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: And everyone's like, oh, yeah, that's right. They're all the same. 537 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: The hell they are. 538 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 3: When they're too similar, we should say so they're all 539 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 3: the same as just nutty. 540 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: It's just nutty. Whether we're talking about the southern border, 541 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: whether we're. 542 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 3: Talking about the recognition of terrorists, whether we're talking about 543 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 3: the opposition to socialism. You had a town hall yesterday 544 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 3: and CNN with Bernie Sanders and Acossio Cortes. 545 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: By the way, Bernie Sanders looked terrible. You know, he 546 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: sounded the same, but I'm saying how he looked. He 547 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 2: looked just awful. He looked old. 548 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 3: Weirdly enough, he looked old, and he looked like he 549 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 3: had work done rights. 550 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: It's both things. It was very odd. Now, maybe it's just. 551 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 3: The videos that I saw, but it's the same old, boring, 552 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 3: staid conversation that seems to work on twenty somethings in college, 553 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 3: but doesn't stand up to scrutiny when you look at 554 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 3: it applied in the real world. Now, it's the problem 555 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 3: is is that this policy, which is the zar mom 556 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 3: Donnie policy, might very well get him elected. There's a big, big, 557 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 3: debate in New York, a New York mayor's debate. It's 558 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 3: Mom Donnie, it's Andrew Cuomo, and it's Curtis Sliwa running 559 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 3: as the Republican. I hate saying that Curtis shouldn't run. 560 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 3: I mean, he's been a perennial candidate for forever. It's ridiculous. 561 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, you should make this a two person race 562 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 3: because grossly, you're better off with Cuomo, at least on 563 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 3: those policies. 564 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 2: But you're not great with Cuomo. The guy is awful. 565 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 3: The former governor let grandmas die in nursing homes, was 566 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 3: engaged in sexual impropriety where his brother and I'm not 567 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 3: gonna forget this. He gets to have this career on 568 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 3: News Nation. But Chris Cuomo was trying to figure out 569 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 3: how he can find those women and disparage them. 570 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: Come now, I don't want to think that these are 571 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 2: good people at all. 572 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 3: But this idea of socialism, that's not difference between the 573 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 3: two parties, of course it is of it is so 574 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 3: these are two different parties, and it's important to remember 575 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 3: when they have too many similarities, when they're too close 576 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 3: to each other, when they're indistinguishable, say so aggressively because 577 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 3: the people on the left should take that as an insult. 578 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 3: And as for this shutdown and who's being hurt and 579 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 3: who's doing what. 580 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 6: That's just a small sampling of what's been done by 581 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 6: Republicans in the last nine months. And what have Democrats 582 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 6: done the last nine months. On the split screen, look 583 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 6: at the other side, they've shut down the government. 584 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 3: That's how you make the argument, that's how you need 585 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,959 Speaker 3: to make the arguments. Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz, 586 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 3: and this is Tony Katz Today. Find everything at Tony 587 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 3: Katz dot com. Do not ask me to lament NBC layoffs. 588 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: I'm not. 589 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 3: I'm not doing that, Tony Katz, Tony kats Today, Good 590 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 3: to be with you. There have been layoffs in radio, 591 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 3: there have been layoffs everywhere. Yet somehow, when NBC News 592 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 3: does it, or when the government does it, I'm supposed 593 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 3: to care. And no, it's not that I somehow get 594 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 3: a thrill out of people losing their job. 595 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 2: I guess it would really depend on the person in 596 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 2: the job. 597 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 3: But if the job is no longer necessary, the job 598 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 3: is no longer necessary. 599 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 2: And that's the way it is now. 600 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 3: If the argument is hey they're having these layoffs because 601 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 3: things are bad, because. 602 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 2: Of mismanagement, whatever. Well, then that's the story. 603 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 3: But it seems to be that they push these kinds 604 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: of stories, They move these kinds of stories as a 605 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 3: way of saying, my gosh, look what's happening to this 606 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 3: very important industry. I put forth to you that I 607 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 3: don't view NBC as a very important industry. NBC doesn't 608 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 3: view me as a very important industry. They don't look 609 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 3: at you and say you're a very important industry. Only 610 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 3: they are a very important industry. And I'm just not 611 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 3: gonna buy into that. And I'm exhausted by the news 612 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 3: coverage that wants us to believe that when it happens 613 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 3: to them, it's really important. When it happens to you, 614 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 3: I don't know why it is you're discussing it. And 615 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 3: then there's this story about Anna Pauline a Luna, not 616 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 3: specifically about the member of Congress, it's about getting these 617 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 3: files regarding the assassination of JFK. And she is the 618 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 3: one who's in charge of this file release, and she 619 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 3: says that Russia is handing over their findings on the 620 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 3: assassination of President John Kennedy three hundred and fifty page 621 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 3: document to shed light on the KGB secret insights into 622 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 3: the events surrounding Kennedy being shot November twenty second, nineteen 623 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 3: sixty three. Would anybody believe what the Russians hand over? 624 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 3: I mean, it might be interesting, but you wouldn't believe it, right, 625 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 3: There's no possible way you would believe that that you 626 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 3: would that you would look at that and say, well, 627 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 3: clearly the Soviets they were able to do the good investigation. 628 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 3: It's the Soviets even if they had data. Do you 629 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 3: think they would hand to the United States the proper data? 630 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 2: Who buys this, Who believes this. 631 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 3: Who in their right mind would think that this is 632 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 3: in any way possible. 633 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 2: You'd have to be out of your mind to believe that. 634 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 2: I wouldn't believe. 635 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 3: I don't believe anything that Vladimir Putin says now then tomorrow, never, never, once, 636 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 3: never ever. But I have no problem with with files 637 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 3: being released us knowing things that maybe we didn't know 638 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 3: before about the assassination of Kennedy or Robert Kennedy or 639 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 3: nearly anybody else. Find everything at Tony Katz dot com. 640 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 2: Tomorrow. Everyone take care