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Speaker 1: Three more things to get to Tony Katz Tony Katz today, guys,

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Speaker 1: good to be here, Good to be with you. Don't

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Speaker 1: cool kids do and they are they are indeed the

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Speaker 1: see where we're at. I have a lot of work

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Speaker 1: to do, don't I have some updating to do, But

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Speaker 1: everything is going really well and I appreciate you guys

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Speaker 1: being a part of what is happening over there. So

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Speaker 1: here is my three more things. We start in Kansas.

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Speaker 1: And in Kansas, their legislature has overridden the leftist governor

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Speaker 1: have invalidated transgender driver's licenses and PIRTH certificates seventeen hundred individuals.

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Speaker 1: This effects they have to get new standard driver's licenses

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Speaker 1: that it cost to twenty six dollars, and the state's

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Speaker 1: Vehicle Division and form residents that no grace period is

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Speaker 1: going to be offered for those who need to update

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Speaker 1: their ideas. Now. I don't think there's anything wrong with

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Speaker 1: giving people a grace period to do anything with a

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Speaker 1: government form. You allowed this thing, now you're not going

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Speaker 1: to allow this thing. I don't have any problem if

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Speaker 1: you had given a bit of time for that to happen.

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Speaker 1: But it is the very least of my concerns on

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Speaker 1: this topic. What is important here is that we put

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Speaker 1: an end to the idea that we are going to

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Speaker 1: allow lying and that governments should participate in the lies.

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Speaker 1: Men are not women, women are not men, and you

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Speaker 1: are not assigned to sex or gender at birth. You

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Speaker 1: are what you are what you are, and that the

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Speaker 1: Democratic governor Laura Kelly engaged the veto, I'm glad that

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Speaker 1: it was overridden. She calls it a poorly drafted bill

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Speaker 1: with significant, far reaching consequences. She wrote or stated, it

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Speaker 1: is nothing short of ridiculous that the legislature is forcing

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Speaker 1: the entire state, every city in town, every school district,

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Speaker 1: at the public university to spend taxpayer money on a

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Speaker 1: manufactured problem. Kansas elected them to focus or Kansons elected

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Speaker 1: them to focus on education, job creation, housing, and grocery

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Speaker 1: costs well. In order to do all of that you

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Speaker 1: have to start by not lying. And lying is saying

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Speaker 1: that men are women and women are men, or men

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Speaker 1: could be women, or women could be men. It's a

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Speaker 1: lie and government should not endorse lying. So it is

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Speaker 1: extremely important. Regardless of the cost that this kid handles,

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Speaker 1: I do not listen to democrats tell me about what's

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Speaker 1: too expensive. Again the money I can say by never

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Speaker 1: giving a dime to planned parenthood, just like we don't

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Speaker 1: give any money to public broadcasting. These are good ways

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Speaker 1: to not spend money, and now we can afford to

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Speaker 1: do things like not lying to the American people complain, moan,

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Speaker 1: convetch all you want, entering a multi occupancy space now

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Speaker 1: designated for the opposite sex constitution violation meaning can't be

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Speaker 1: a man of walk, utilize the women's riomn claim that

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Speaker 1: you're a woman that's not going to work. It's not

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Speaker 1: going to work. When I talk about these subjects, they

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Speaker 1: usually talk about children, and the abuse of children is

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Speaker 1: flat out wrong. And anybody abusing children by claiming they

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Speaker 1: can be a different gender, working to confuse children, in

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Speaker 1: engaging in mutilation of children, or puberty blockers, these are

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Speaker 1: child abusers and they need to be stopped. They are

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Speaker 1: child abusers and they need to be stopped. Adults can

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Speaker 1: make all sorts of decisions for themselves. I just don't

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Speaker 1: want to be told I have to buy into it,

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Speaker 1: and lying on a certificate and lying on a driver's

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Speaker 1: license is saying that the state is going to buy

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Speaker 1: into it, and they shouldn't. I don't want that. I

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Speaker 1: won't be told I have to use certain pronouns. Never,

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Speaker 1: you cannot compel me to speech, which is exactly what

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Speaker 1: it is that progressives want. In this case, I should

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Speaker 1: be compelled two levels of speech. No, thank you, I'll pass.

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Speaker 1: Then there is the AI story, how Anthropic, which is

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Speaker 1: claud and full disclosure. I have no financial connection to

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Speaker 1: Anthropic or Claude. I do have Claude pro I pay

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Speaker 1: for that service. The Pentagon came to them, and the

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Speaker 1: Pentagon said, we want to use the tools. They wanted unrestricted,

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Speaker 1: utilize the tools for well maybe some nefarious purposes that

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Speaker 1: mass surveillance. So what Anthropic is said is that they

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Speaker 1: said is is that, hey, we're not going to do

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Speaker 1: it's about safety and security. And please, I have no

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Speaker 1: issue with Daryo Emodi. I've never met the man. I

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Speaker 1: the CEO, yeah, CEO of of Anthropic. The Department of

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Speaker 1: War is saying that Dariomodi is not telling the story

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Speaker 1: properly about this relationship that Anthropic has with the US

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Speaker 1: military or what the real desire is. Again, I do

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Speaker 1: all of these AI tools can be manipulated, which brings

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Speaker 1: us to a story about this exact company and the

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Speaker 1: country of Mexico. Bloomberg has the story. That story is

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Speaker 1: behind a paywall. Stephen Green, who's known as the Vodka

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Speaker 1: and the story goes that a hacker a single loan hacker,

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Speaker 1: if you want to understand the concerns people have about AI,

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Speaker 1: which are are real concerns. In many, many cases, a

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Speaker 1: loan hacker went to Claude, which is the AI system

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Speaker 1: owned by this group Anthropic, and said to Claude, hey,

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Speaker 1: I want you to act as an elite hacker, and

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Speaker 1: wrote all the prompts in Spanish, find vulnerabilities and government networks,

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Speaker 1: and when you find the vulnerabilities, want you to write

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Speaker 1: computer scripts to exploit them and determine ways to automate

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Speaker 1: data theft. Now, according to the reporting, Claude's response was, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can't do that. I have no I have built

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Speaker 1: in safeguards that would not allow me to do such

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Speaker 1: a thing. The hacker, instead of giving up, simply kept

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Speaker 1: asking the same question, the same type of prompt in

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Speaker 1: different ways. Variation here, a variation there, a little more direct,

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Speaker 1: at the vulnerabilities in the Mexican government system of this, that,

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Speaker 1: and the other. I want you to develop vulnerability to

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Speaker 1: find these vulnerabilities. I want you to develop programs and

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Speaker 1: scripts that be able to infiltrate and exploit these vulnerabilities,

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Speaker 1: and then I want you to automate the data capture

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Speaker 1: in all these places, all of these places, and what

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Speaker 1: did the AI do? The AI basically relented, as in

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Speaker 1: Gadget reported it. There was no hack of the system

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Speaker 1: Claude to turn it into a hacker. Rather, it was

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Speaker 1: the relentless questioning and slight variations of the same question,

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Speaker 1: find a way to do this. Claude produced thousands of

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Speaker 1: detailed reports that included ready to execute plans telling whoever

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Speaker 1: this person was, exactly which internal targets to attack next,

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Speaker 1: and what credentials to use. What happened next. Well, to

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Speaker 1: story that the attacker had stolen one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: gigabytes of sensitive data, including one hundred and ninety five

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Speaker 1: million taxpayer records, voter registration files, government employee credentials, and

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Speaker 1: civil registry data. One guy utilizing one AI that could

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Speaker 1: cost upwards of twenty dollars a month by asking the

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Speaker 1: same question over and over again but following it up

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Speaker 1: with please, that was the great hack. That's how they

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Speaker 1: did it, and I'm telling you it gets harder and

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Speaker 1: harder to sleep at night. That's crazy. That is absolutely insane.

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Speaker 1: The site Gambit, which is an Israeli cybersecurity startup, Gambit Security,

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Speaker 1: they claim that quote. In total, Claude produced thousands of

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Speaker 1: detailed reports, including ready to execute plans, and what Anthropics

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Speaker 1: says is the company feeds examples of malicious activity back

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Speaker 1: into Claude to learn from it, and one of its

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Speaker 1: latest AI models, Claude Opus four point six, includes probes

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Speaker 1: that can disrupt, disrupt misuse. Yeah, that's what they've been

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Speaker 1: saying for a while, that what just happens can't happen,

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Speaker 1: except that can happen. And it did happen, and it's

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Speaker 1: going to happen again, and it's happening right now as

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Speaker 1: we speak, and it's going to happen tonight as you

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Speaker 1: have dinner. It will happen later tonight, as you put

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Speaker 1: your head to the pillow. It will happen tomorrow as

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Speaker 1: you watch golf or you talk to your children. It's

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Speaker 1: going to happen on Sunday when you're in church. It

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Speaker 1: will happen. As you drive to work, it will happen

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Speaker 1: when you're in the bathroom. This is the way it is.

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Speaker 1: So so we got that going for us. I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 1: This right here is Tony Katz today