1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: The Trump administration has missed another deadline as it relates 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: to the Epstein files, and at this point, I think 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: they've pretty much dropped the facade that they care or 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: that they're going to follow through. And you've got to 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: keep asking yourself why. At this point, it's ken a 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: Casey show. I'm rob Ethan's in for Casey today. Well, 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: I was going to say, more importantly, who who is 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: in these files that they want to protect? So the 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: Daily Beast, amongst others, is covering this, and yes they're 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: a left website, but the facts are the facts is that, 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: you know, we've gotten so focused now on Venezuela over 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: the past week that the Epstein stuff has kind of 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: taken a back burner, but it is important it will 14 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: surface back again once Venezuela, you know, dies down. And 15 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: the members of Congress are alleging that the Justice Department 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: failed to submit a report to Congress that was required 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: by law, and that it did not include the list 18 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: of government officials and politically what the quote is all 19 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: government officials and politically exposed persons named or referenced in 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: the release materials without reactions Because a big part of 21 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: these files that got released is they're all blacked out, 22 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: some pages or entire pages of blackout right, which is 23 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: completely completely ridiculous. 24 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: Right, that's not a release. 25 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: If you black out all the pertinent information, then you're 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: not releasing the information. It's so cartoonish. It's disappointing, but 27 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: also entirely expected. 28 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: At this point. 29 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: Now Schumer and the Democrats, they're still trying to make 30 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: hay out of this. Don't kid yourself. The Democrats don't 31 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: care at all about Epstein or the files or the victims. 32 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: If they did, they would have released it when they 33 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: had full control of the government from twenty what twenty 34 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: to twenty two through twenty two, they had full control 35 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: of the federal government. So you don't kid your something. 36 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: You know, those Democrats they really care. They don't. But 37 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: just because the Democrats are disingenuous clowns doesn't mean you 38 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: shouldn't care. And you should because for some reason, which 39 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: is a really big deal, Donald Trump will not follow 40 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: through on one of his core campaign promises, which is 41 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: to release everything related to Jeffrey Epstein, and he flip 42 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: flopped on that immediately after taking office because it went 43 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: from a full an immediate release of the Epstein files 44 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: to calling it a Democrat hoax and a fabrication. And 45 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: what's interesting is the day of the deadline for these 46 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: responses without redactions, which are supposed to be handed over, 47 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: was the day the US carried out the strike on Venezuela. 48 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: Now, look are you. 49 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: Are you suggesting that that isn't merely coincidence saying that's 50 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: and you know, the reality is we've largely stopped for 51 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: the past several days talking about Jeffrey Epstein. Now again, 52 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 1: it will come back. This is not a story that's 53 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: going to is going to be just you know, forgotten about. 54 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: It's gonna it's one of these stories that Willkatinia. When 55 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: the news lulls, this will will peek back up. But 56 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: what's fascinating is that apparently it's come out that in total, 57 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: there were five point two million pages of documents related 58 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: to Epstein. The government is sitting on five point two 59 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: mil or was sitting on five point two million pages 60 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: of documents. And the one of the issues that they 61 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: were having, or they were claiming that they were having, 62 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: is that they were having trouble hiring four hundred lawyers 63 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: to sort through these documents. 64 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: That's how much. 65 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: So we're led to this and this really puts in 66 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: perspective how ridiculous it is that they're trying to act 67 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: like he was sex trafficking to no one. The guy 68 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: was such a big deal that they had the government 69 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: had five point two million pages of documents on him, 70 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: so much inform that they're having to hire four hundred 71 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: lawyers to sort through them, and we're supposed to believe 72 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: he was some sort of one man band. Well, I 73 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: think Mike Johnson, speaker Mike Johnson kind of gave away 74 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: the game when he said that if the files were 75 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: to be released without reaction, that it would pose a 76 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: serious risk to the integrity of government. What what exactly 77 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: did he mean by that? Who all is involved in this? 78 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I yeah, and and this is and this 79 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: is the problem that Trump is going to keep running into. 80 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: Which is and it's so interesting how one of the 81 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: things I think our show does pretty well as we 82 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: draw interesting parallel. So I want to come back to 83 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: a story we talked about earlier today, which is the 84 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,679 Speaker 1: tom This Grand jury that appears to be looking into 85 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: Thomas Carl Cook, the former. 86 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 3: Deputy mayor Deputy mayor. 87 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: Chief of staff for Joe, howgseet and how they're right 88 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: like sex cells and we're gonna get to this with 89 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: a duel later. Who's going to join us? Who's who's 90 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: covering this? Where people are really interested in, Hey, this 91 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: total totally inappropriate workplace behavior with these women who were 92 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: subordinates of his right. So that's what everybody's like, that's 93 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: the story. Because sex sells. Some people are focused on that, 94 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying they shouldn't be focused on it. 95 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: But when it's all said and done, much like with 96 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: the Beckwith investigation, where the AI porn is what drew 97 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: people to the story the most, the most relevant part 98 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: of what, in the case of Thomas Carl Cook the 99 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: grand jury's looking into, could be these contracts that his 100 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: clients were getting that were being in part funneled to 101 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: them by a woman he was engaged in a relationship with. 102 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: And that may be the thing that becomes the most 103 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: relevant or interesting thing, don't know. 104 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 3: It's up for other people to decide. Same thing with 105 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 3: Mica beck With. 106 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: Everybody's talking about the grand jury looking into the AI 107 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: porn allegations when it could end up being the ghost 108 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: employment stuff, which they're also looking into amongst what could 109 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: be other things could end up being the most interesting part. 110 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: All of this. 111 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: To be said, everybody is focused on Jeffrey Epstein and 112 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: Epstein this and Epstein that, but the reality isn't. What 113 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: matters most of what everybody should be focusing on is 114 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: who was he engaging with. We know this guy was 115 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: a monster, right, we know he did this to these women. 116 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: It's not in dispute, But the thing that will matter 117 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: most is who was he engaged with and why. Until 118 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: we get to that, this story is not going to 119 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: go away. But I think the reality of the situation Robins. 120 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: Somebody in the YouTube commentary also said this as well. 121 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: We probably will never know the full details of the 122 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: Epstein files if we haven't had the information released at 123 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: this point. The Democrats were uninterested. Of course, Donald Trump 124 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: has flip flopped on the issue. Who is going to 125 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: be the honest broker that is elected to office to 126 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: blow the lid on this, And you got to think 127 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: all the people, these four hundred lawyers that have had 128 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: their eyeballs on this at various points, and so many 129 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: things in the government are leaked, They're leaked to the press, 130 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: they're leaked outside but there the lid has been sealed 131 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: tight on this. Okay, so let's pivot out of this. 132 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: And by the way, this is not gonna go away. 133 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: The difference is now it's Trump. So the media will 134 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: not let it go away because they think, and rightfully so, 135 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: he's vulnerable on this. So they are going to keep 136 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: They're going to keep at this. The Atlantic had an 137 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: interesting article about Gavin Newsom and they are basically declaring 138 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: him the front runner on the Democrat side. And look, 139 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: you can say, well, you know, the election is three 140 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: years away. The presidential election is going to start in 141 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: earnest next year, right, I mean, these these people that 142 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: are running no more of a it's a six month 143 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: sprint of the primary. It's a year, year and a half. 144 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it may even start this year. At some 145 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: point the Democrats and Republicans, with Trump not being able 146 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: to run again, are going to start jostling for the 147 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: position of front runner, you know, or you know, presume 148 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: nominee or whatever you want to call it. And you 149 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: got to say that if you were to take some 150 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: guy out a central casting and say who looks like 151 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: a president of the United States, whether you like his 152 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: views or not, or think he's competent running this state 153 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: of California or not. I don't, but the guy looks 154 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: the part of somebody who could be president of the 155 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: United States. He's also been engaging in a degree of 156 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: image repair on this podcast that he's been hosting, where 157 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: he's been positioning himself more as a moderate compared to 158 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: his actual actions while in elected office as the governor 159 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: of California. I also wonder, because I've heard names tossed around, 160 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: Pete Boudha, Judge possibly. 161 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 3: Throwing his hat into the ring. 162 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: Alexandria Cassio Cortes another possibility, although I'm not I think 163 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: kind of like Bernie Sanders, she would be laughed out 164 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: of the nomination process. 165 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: But we shall see. 166 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: Well, and so that. 167 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: Becomes the issue that if you're the Republicans, where are 168 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: they gonna go? Because Jdva vants well, is it somebody 169 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: from Trump orbit or will we have moved on from that? 170 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: It's going to depend on how his presidency goes. But 171 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: if you're going to somebody from Trump orbit, I think 172 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: you could make a compelling case right now that Marco 173 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: Rubio has positioned himself better, especially if these foreign policy 174 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: endeavors end up succeeding the way that Trump certainly thinks 175 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: they're going to Rubio as secretary of State. Is the 176 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: default face of that, or what's the vice president really do? 177 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: Whether it's jd Vance or Mike Pence or Joe Biden 178 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: or Al Gore or whoever Dick Cheney, they go to 179 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: funerals when now Cheney is a little different, but most 180 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: of the time they're not all that involved, and they're 181 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: not able to get the sort of FaceTime or credit 182 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: for policy success, which is probably the bigger deal than 183 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: these other people, like a secretary of state might And 184 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: then yes, how many times historically in American history has 185 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: the secretary of State or lower position in an administration 186 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: gone on to be the President of the United States. 187 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: More often than not, it seems to be the vice president. 188 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: And the immediate example that comes to mind would be 189 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: a George Bush senior. Yeah, you're following the Reagan amss. No, 190 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: you're you're right. But when you compare that with where 191 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: the Republicans seem to have a smaller pool of people, right, 192 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: the prevailing wisdom right now, unless Trump implodes is hey, 193 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna be somebody from Trump orbit, which really narrows 194 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: your group of people. The Democrats seem like it's wide open. 195 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: And the problem Newsome may end up having is in 196 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: his ability, as you talked about with the podcast and engaging. 197 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: You know, he's with Charlie Kirk and all, you know, 198 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 3: all this other stuff. 199 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: Will he be seen And this is going to sound 200 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: a wild to say, but this is where the Democrats 201 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: are at now. Will he be seen as too moderate 202 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: or too appeasing to end up winning a Democrat primary? Well, 203 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: that's an excellent question, because they have done their best 204 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: to cultivate the crazies to be the base of their party, 205 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: and I think it's really pushed the Democrats up against 206 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: a wall. Look at the way look at the way 207 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: they're popularity. Their approval ratings are in the country right now, 208 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: by the way, And I will be out tonight in 209 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: the community. I will be at the Brownsburg Library tonight 210 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: Ethan from five to seven pm. 211 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 3: If you'd like to come by. 212 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: We're doing our city initiative signature drive where the Brownsburg 213 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: Town Council one member said, we are so talentless in 214 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: our town. Nobody is talented enough to be the mayor. 215 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: This same lady didn't know where the roads were. But 216 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: we think our town is so broken that we got 217 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: to make some pretty radical changes, and that needs to 218 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: We need to have a chief executive who's accountable to 219 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: the voters. 220 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: And so if you'd like to. 221 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: Come out and meet me, I'll be one of a 222 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: couple of people out there tonight at the Brownsburg Library 223 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: from five to seven pm collecting the signatures. You can 224 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: hang out, we can shoot the breeze, and everybody's welcome 225 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: to come to come see me. What happened here? Did 226 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: the McDonald's finally kick you out? They said we don't 227 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: want you here anymore. Rob, I couldn't keep consuming like 228 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: I was drinking a whole large soda in the hour 229 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: that I was at the McDonald's, and it was like 230 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: physically acting my health, and. 231 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: I can't do it. 232 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: We just thought the library for a day or two 233 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: might be a little more a professional. But I will 234 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: be doing the Rby's tour as well on this. We're 235 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: doing very well with the signatures. But if you would 236 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: like to come tonight five it literally takes five minutes. 237 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: You can stop in sign the petition and then this 238 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: will enable us to try to do some good stuff. 239 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: So if you live live in the Brownsburg twil limits, 240 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: come out and you can see us. All right, let's 241 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: take a break when we come back. You are you 242 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: are hot, mad about something very interesting and the things 243 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: that grind your gears are just fascinating to me. But 244 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: you've been such a good co host the last couple 245 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: of days. I wanted you to give an opportunity to 246 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: get this off your chest because the audience, I'm not 247 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: sure if they're going to it's going to resonate with them. 248 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: Are they going to be like that dude is nuts. 249 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: Either way, I think it'll be some good radio. We'll 250 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: do it when we come Excellent Kennell and Casey show, 251 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: a ninety three WIBC. A major movie franchise is in 252 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: the toilet and the head honcho is out the door. Yes, 253 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: apparently it's not officially happened yet, but by all reports, 254 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: Disney is expected to make the announcement. All right, So 255 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm fasted by this that you have been screaming about 256 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: this all show that you want to talk about. You've 257 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: done such a good job of filling in. I said, Okay, 258 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: I'll give you a segment to talk about it and 259 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: we're talking about Star Wars. Correct, Right, Okay, And one 260 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: of the things that's fascinating to me about this guy, 261 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm not a Star Wars person. We've talked about this 262 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: on the program. I have never seen a full movie, 263 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: a full Star Wars movie. 264 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: That's a tragedy. 265 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: Well, I know, and I'm sure it puts me in 266 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: the best minority of Americans. 267 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: My wife is a super Star Wars. 268 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: Fan, or at least she was at one point. So 269 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm not like judging anybody who goes. 270 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: I'm not like. 271 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: Laughing at the comic con people or whatever. I'm just 272 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: simply saying I have not. However, I appreciate the financial 273 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: juggernaut it has been in this country, the millions of 274 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: people who do participate in it, and all think Star Wars. 275 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: And you are one of those people who you are 276 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: a Star Wars. 277 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 3: Super fan. Correct. 278 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: I have been a fan of Star Wars since I 279 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: was about I have a number of collectibles at the house. 280 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: I've seen every movie in theaters when it's been available 281 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: to view. I am a fan of the Star Wars 282 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: and anybody who considers themselves to be a fan of 283 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: the Star Wars for the most part has roundly rejected 284 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: and been appalled by the leadership of Kathleen Kennedy, who 285 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: is currently the president of Lucasfilm. Okay, so that's George Lucas, 286 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: the creator, the head, the original guy, did all this 287 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: at Star Wars, yes, stuff, and he famously sold out 288 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: to Disney back and I believe it was twenty twelve 289 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: when this deal took place and Kathleen Kennedy was announced 290 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: to be the leader, the person who was overseeing the 291 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: legacy of George Lucas going into the future. 292 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 3: Disney basically put this woman in charge, correct with the 293 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 3: blessing of George Lucas. 294 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: I should add because she had been associated with Lucas 295 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: Productions and Steven Spielberg Productions going back to the nineteen eighties. 296 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: She made a cameo in Temple of Doom. Okay, So 297 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: my point of all this is he sells, Disney takes 298 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: over and really for the past whatever that's been now 299 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: thirteen plus years. Yes, and I've heard this from my 300 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: wife as well. The franchise has been a complete dumpster fire. 301 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: It has been a total disaster. One of the most controversial. 302 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: See she was handed one of the most profitable film 303 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: franchises in history on a silver platter. Go ahead, Well, 304 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: let me reiterate this, people, because we go driving the road. 305 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: Like you, if you're not a Star Wars fan, this 306 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: is an interesting discussion because it is such a large portion. 307 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: Of our economy. 308 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: Like when you factor in all the people that are 309 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: super into Star Wars, which is one of these sort 310 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: of movies that it is totally into the mainstream. It's 311 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: not just you know, the the you know the like 312 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: I said, the comic con type of people, Like you're 313 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: talking the movies, the merch the toys, the You're talking 314 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: billions and billions of dollars of economic activity that surrounds 315 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: around this thing, which has been steimy to some extent 316 00:15:51,640 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: because of how poorly it's been run. Movies, books, video games, comics, toys, inventions. 317 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: Like you said, I mean billions of dollars of merchandise 318 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: that has surrounded this franchise. And she essentially threw it 319 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: in the toilet. That was one of the first and 320 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: most controversial decisions of Kathleen Kennedy. Mind you, she was 321 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: handed this franchise and everything that goes with it on 322 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: a silver platter. One of those things being the expanded universe, 323 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: because Star Wars is more than just the now nine 324 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: films that have been released about this story, this mythology. 325 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: There were books, video. 326 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: Games, comics, like I said, and all of this had 327 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: built up a mythology and an accepted story over time. 328 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: George Lucas himself had given this woman his rough outline, 329 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: his draft for what he envisioned the sequel trilogy, the 330 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: next chapter of the Star Wars universe to be, and 331 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: she immediately threw it allway, said, the expanded universe is 332 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: now legacy or mythology whatever, And they were starting from scratch. Okay, yeah, 333 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: you're getting kind of in the weeds on this. So 334 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: for the person down the road, I think the question 335 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: that they would have because I used to used to 336 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: sit around on the weekends and I had many people know. 337 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: My radio mentor is Jay Baker formerly Bob and Tom 338 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: Q ninety five and Jay, when I was first getting 339 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: the business, really took me under his wing. And one 340 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: of the things we used to discuss is like how 341 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: some businesses could possibly fail, Like, for example, if you 342 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: own a Wendy's or a McDonald's near a crowded interstate, 343 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: you would literally say to yourself, how could that business 344 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: possibly fail? It's basically a money printing factory based on 345 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: the volume of traffic, the location, the product itself. But 346 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: then you will see these businesses who will somehow find 347 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: a way to fail. And I sort of feel the 348 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: same way about Star Wars, where people are driving down 349 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: the street right now going how is it possible that 350 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: Star Wars could be failing? 351 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 3: What did that? Like? How does Disney take a multi 352 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 3: billion dollar. 353 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: Francis It's Disney for crying out loud and they have 354 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: ruined it? 355 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 3: How does that even happen? 356 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 2: Well? 357 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: I think this is a problem when you have new 358 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: leadership takeover any kind of legacy business. We saw this 359 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: demonstry most recently with what was her name, Julie Farcas 360 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: or something from the CEO of Cracker Barrel. 361 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 3: Yes, who peaching right? 362 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 2: People? 363 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: Well, it was more than just the logo was also 364 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: the interior design. Was also some of the menu items. 365 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of will when anything strike me 366 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: as the sort of guy like people can see you 367 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: on the YouTube chat right now the way you're addressed. 368 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: You've probably hung out at a Cracker Barrel numerous times 369 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: in your life. 370 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: We had Thanksgiving dinner. 371 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 3: The cracker barrel. 372 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely go ahead. 373 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: But the problem is when some of these leaders who 374 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: take over legacy institutions believe themselves to be smarter, better 375 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: and more talented, more insightful than the people who created 376 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: them and made them into the success that they found 377 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: themselves to be in charge of. And Kathleen Kennedy a 378 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: perfect example of that. South Park actually turned her into 379 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: a meme. I'm sure you've heard put a chick in 380 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: it and make it lame and gay's that's Kathleen Kennedy 381 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: in a nutshell. And part of the big problem with 382 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: why the Star Wars sequel trilogy turned out so disastrously 383 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: and had diminishing returns for every single release and put 384 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: the ratings in the tank for Star Wars as a whole, 385 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: was because this woman. 386 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 2: Didn't have a plan. 387 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,479 Speaker 1: And that sounds so absurd if you are planning to 388 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: do a three movie trilogy to not have a even 389 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: rough outline for what you want to do with the 390 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: story going into you're just making it up as you 391 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: go along. 392 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: And sometimes that like hey. 393 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: Look, wait, wait wait, I do a number one rated 394 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: radio show, and I do that every single day. I 395 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: just come in here and make it up as I 396 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: go along. So for some people that actually works out 397 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: pretty good for some people, but not Kathleen Kennedy, who 398 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: by all appearances and by all evidence, completely lacks any 399 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: level of talent and vision. So now, anyway, the point 400 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: of this being that she is reported now by multiple 401 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: institutions that Disney will be announcing she is stepping down 402 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: and Dave Filoni, who is currently the creative director for Lucasfilm, 403 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: will be assuming the role of president, along with Lynnwyn Brennan, 404 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: somebody that I'm not familiar with, but she is the 405 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: GM of the financials of all this going on. Thank 406 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: god we got through that segment. I hope you're happy. 407 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: You've done a nice job the past couple of days. 408 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: But wow, I'm ready to move on, and we're moving 409 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: on to something I'm pretty good at, which is drinking. Ethan, 410 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: I have a very important drinking question for you and Kevin, 411 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: and maybe Jared Lewis wants to get in with this 412 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: when we come back. He's got the news ninety three WIBC. Yet, 413 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: all right, I got a very very important question for you. 414 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: Have you ever participated in dry January? 415 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 2: By default? I suppose I did. 416 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 3: What do you mean by. 417 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: Default, Well, there was about a three year period where 418 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: I didn't drink any alcohol. Oh really, yeah, like of 419 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: some reason or well, yeah, because I was a bitter 420 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: alcoholic in the twenties. 421 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 3: Well okay, okay, it explains it. 422 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: But you must have reached a point where because I 423 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: have seen you, I have engaged in a social setting 424 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: with you where I've seen you consume alcoholic beverages, so 425 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: you have sense figured. 426 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 3: Out a better way to moderation. 427 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: Okay, But for about a three year period I was 428 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: completely dry. Okay, I did not think at any point 429 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: in the show today I would hear Ethan say I 430 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: was a bitter alcoholic at one point. But it's okay, 431 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: So Mike, I mention all of this because there WRTV 432 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: had this article a couple of days ago. There is 433 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: a This dry january has become a big thing. Not 434 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: just for people who feel like, oh I have a 435 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: drinking problem. It's people they want to be more healthy, 436 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: or they want to lose weight, or you know, teach 437 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: themselves some discipline. The variety of reasons people participate in 438 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: this dry january where you will you. 439 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: Will lose a lot of weight by not drinking the alcohol. 440 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: The alcohol has a lot of calories. 441 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no doubt. It also has a lot of fun. 442 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,959 Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes you got to make the choice right, 443 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: but dan it can also unlock a new levels of 444 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: pain and misery that you. 445 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: Never expected to to do experience. 446 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: Okay, So this, this uh store is called Orange Jilly 447 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 1: A R A N gi l y Orangilly? 448 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: Is this like orange Julius. 449 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's even the correct pronunciation, but 450 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: that's the name of it. Hey, it's free publicity for 451 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: these people. You take what you can get, right, But anyway, 452 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: their whole store centers around bottle drinks without alcohol in them, 453 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: so alcohol removed, wine, non alcoholic beers or a proof spirits, 454 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: cocktail mixers, functional beverages and again WRTV as a full 455 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: write up on this place. 456 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 3: And their business is kind of booming. 457 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: It appears because of so many people participating in dry January, 458 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: which you're gonna have to help me with this, Like, 459 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: do you feel better if you buy something in a 460 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: bottle even if it doesn't have the alcohol in it? 461 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, because I think that's part of the social thing. 462 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: That's why they offer zero proof drinks at bars and 463 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: other institutions where they serve alcohol, so that way you 464 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: can still participate in the social exchange of communal drinking 465 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: activity without necessarily imbibing hardcore alcohol. And also people smoke 466 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: weed these days, they don't need to well, right, So 467 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: and then look, I've long moved past the idea of, 468 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: you know, excessive drinking or being out in social drinking, 469 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: even for the most part, because I'm married and I 470 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: have a two and a half year old, so I never. 471 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 3: Leave my house and a good way to obtain moderation, 472 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: you know, drinking at home. 473 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: This isn't nearly as much fun, you know, like I 474 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: might have a beverage during a ball game every now 475 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: and then, but that's really about it for me. I've 476 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: also as I've entered my forties, I've recognized things don't 477 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: work quite as easily as they used to, and you 478 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: don't recover quite as quick as you used to, and 479 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: things I have impacts on you that used to not 480 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: impact you at all, And so I've had to be 481 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: more I've had to be more cognizant of that going forward, 482 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: that you just can't abuse yourself the way you used to. 483 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 3: It expect a full recovery. 484 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you understand that the clock is ticking and suddenly 485 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: your bodily vitality is a lot more valuable than you 486 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: U keV. 487 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 3: Do you do dry January? Have you ever done dry January? Technically? 488 00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 3: I have? 489 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 4: It was actually right before COVID before Yeah, it was 490 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty. So I went, I was. I think 491 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 4: I was sober for like three or four. 492 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 3: Months, deliberately or just accidentally. I just wanted to take 493 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 3: a break from it. Yeah, I wanted to see how 494 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 3: long I could go. 495 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: Isn't that funny that you got too? 496 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: Technically's out of did you participate in dry? 497 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 3: Well? 498 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 4: What I want to know is does New Year's Eve? 499 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 4: Because I definitely drank that New Year's Eve? 500 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: No, I think that's the things they count, No, I 501 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: think yeah, Well, but I think he's saying probably into 502 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: the morning hour. 503 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, the early hours of January. I think you're good. Right, 504 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 3: so you've gone. 505 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, and I guess Ethan 506 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: you answered the question. I said, what's the longest you've 507 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: ever gone without drinking? You will say three three a 508 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: year for years, keV. Is that the longest you've ever 509 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: gone without drinking. 510 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 4: I think it probably yeah, I'd probably say four months. 511 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, because some people drink like they like the smell 512 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: or the taste, like the bourbon drinkers. 513 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 3: Right, those people are dirty liars. 514 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 2: Well I mean like, I mean, I like the smell. 515 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: That's why I dress well, I. 516 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: Mean the kark if I'm wrong, Like the bourbon people, 517 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: that's it's a whole experience for them. They smelling it 518 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: and enjoying it and rolling it around in their glass. 519 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: And I mean it's a it's a like a Tony Katz. 520 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: He's all the time bragging about I drink it so slowly. 521 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: I was like, what a miserable existence. It's there to 522 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: be consumed. 523 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, they like to smell the notes, as they say. 524 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 3: Is that what it's called? 525 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? 526 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: As so uh okay, So if you are a person 527 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: who's interested in the keV. 528 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 3: That's longer than I thought. Why did you go back? 529 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 3: Did you? 530 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 4: Well that's when the lockdown happened. 531 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 3: So I got very bored. 532 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 4: I couldn't socialize with people, you know, ye go out 533 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 4: and about, so I just you know, i'd have some beers. 534 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: Now, look, keV is a very productive, happy member of society. 535 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: So by and large like he didn't do permanent damage 536 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: to himself. But he makes a good point, Ethan, there's 537 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,959 Speaker 1: a lot of people who did irreparable harm to themselves 538 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: because of what happened during those lockdowns, and because they 539 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 1: weren't able to have social interaction, they did turn to 540 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: things like alcohol or even drugs in some case, and 541 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: a lot of people have never been able to recover 542 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: from that. 543 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 544 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: No, A lot of a lot of damage was done 545 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: during the lockdowns, including a damage to relationships, A lot 546 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: of a lot of damaged relationships as a result of 547 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: being locked in with each other and no recourse or relief. 548 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 3: Was it hard for you to quit? No? 549 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 2: I had motivation. 550 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want you to share nerve damage. 551 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: I had out what they call alcoholic neuropathy, which is 552 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: something what alcoholic neuropathy, which is that that is something 553 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: where you drink enough alcohol that it sets your nerves 554 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: on fire, which I didn't know was something that was 555 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: even possible to happen. 556 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 3: Like you're sitting around in your body feels like it's 557 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 3: on fire. 558 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: Yes, and you went to a doctor. My legs just 559 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 2: felt like they were on fire. 560 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: You couldn't you couldn't turn it off, and the only 561 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: way to turn it off was abstinence. And so I 562 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: had proper motivation to to not be in pain. 563 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 3: When you went back. Do you still have that? 564 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 4: No? 565 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: Was it hard to go back? Were you like I 566 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: don't want to go on fire again? 567 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 2: Yes? 568 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: And that continues to motivate me to only consume in moderation, well, 569 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: very moderate, moderate. 570 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 3: Speak of motivation. 571 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: One guys who's always motivated to get the rumor gossip 572 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: at in you Indo is Abdul. He will join us 573 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: next Kettle a Casey Show ninety three double. 574 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 3: So we can say it once. 575 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: Again, the Grand Jury is real and it's spectacular. And 576 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: this time it's Thomas Carl Cook. It's Kettle a Casey Show. 577 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: He look who it is. He's an author, he's a broadcaster, 578 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: he's a provocateur, owner operator of Indie Bontics dot org. 579 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: Abdu will keep your baz Hello, Hello, all right, So 580 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: anytime you can open up with the Seinfeld reference, my 581 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: day is going to be made. So this kind of 582 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: wasn't on unlike the Micah beckw with Grand Jury, which 583 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: you and I were talking about for a long time 584 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: before the records finally came out that that existed. This 585 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: wasn't really on anybody's radar, But the Indie Star is 586 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: now reporting that a grand jury has been convened in 587 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: process working for lack of a better term, on the 588 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: Thomas Carl Cook saga. Especially now just a reminder, Thomas 589 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: Carl Cook was he was the deputy mayor, chief of 590 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: staff for Joe hog Set. It was the architect of 591 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: his campaign victories. And these numerous exposs came out at 592 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: Indie Star Mere Indy about his alleged inappropriate relationship with women. 593 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: And then this alleged inappropriate or what could be perceived 594 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: as an inappropriate relationship after he left city Hall with 595 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: a woman who remained in city Hall who controlled where 596 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: dollars went, and those dollars, some of them went to 597 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: Cook's clients. And now apparently a grand jury has been 598 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: looking into those things. 599 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 5: Yes, it is grand jury central station around Indianapolis these days, 600 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 5: betwen the Lieutenant Governor's office and the former Deputy mayor. 601 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 5: And what's interesting is uh, someone that because we talked 602 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 5: about this on the State House Happenings, Uh, the question 603 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 5: was why convene a grand jury? Well, first of all, 604 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 5: use these allogate has been going on for a while. 605 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 5: They didn't just start yes, just just use it. A 606 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 5: grand jury has been convened, became public public. But I 607 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 5: remind people that and and it's having having a good 608 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 5: memory and piece of little things together. When Ryan Meres 609 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 5: ran for when Terry Curry said he said he wasn't 610 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 5: going to run a prosecutor anymore, there were two people 611 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 5: Ryan Mehers, the current prosecutor, and Tim Moriarty, who is 612 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 5: an attorney but is not a prosecutor, and Tim Murry 613 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 5: and Tim tim Moriarty worked in the mayor's office, and 614 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 5: Tim Moriarty was good friends with Thomas Cook. And so 615 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 5: when Moriarty so Cook basically ran Moriarty to try to 616 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 5: become a kind of prosecutor loss and whatever. And so 617 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 5: when all the stuff pops up right, mayors is like, okay, 618 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 5: what do we do here? Well, because of that past 619 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 5: political history, we're just going to turn everything over to 620 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 5: a grand jury. Let them come back like, hey, is 621 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 5: enough evidence to do an indictment. And then if there 622 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 5: is an indictment, the quest is going to be does 623 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 5: Marit's office do it? Or do they have a special 624 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 5: prosecutor to do it. Okay, so this is a couple. 625 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 5: There's so many layers to this. 626 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: Now to backped a little bit, we now can totally 627 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: scrap the Micah Beckwith camp's argument of the grand jury 628 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: is some creation of a radical leftist prosecutor who's out 629 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: to get me on a political witch hunt. Because the 630 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: last time I looked, Thomas Carl Cook ain't conservative. 631 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 3: And he ain't a Republican. 632 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: So we can put that excuse from the Beckworth camp 633 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: to bed. 634 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 5: Well now would just say he's a radical right ring prosecutor. 635 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: Look, I mean, and you and I talked about this 636 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: in State US happenings, and it's interesting how the Beckwith 637 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: and cook sagas are to have some parallels from the 638 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: standpoint of this. Everybody was talking with Beckworth's deal about 639 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: the alleged AI porn that was shared in his office. However, 640 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: you and I said, based on some of the things 641 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: that we know, we felt the bigger issue and who 642 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: knows how all end up was the or these allegations 643 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: related to ghost employment. I also feel the same way 644 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: about Cook, where the scandal was these inappropriate relationships he 645 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: allegedly had with these women who worked in the Mayor's orbit. 646 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: But the bigger story is potentially this this relationship we 647 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: had with this woman after he left city hall, who 648 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: was who was helping dole out contracts to his clients. 649 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: I sort of feel like these two or things are 650 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: weirdly sort of on the same track. 651 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 5: Yes, there's the there's a sex story, because sex always sales, 652 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 5: whether it's the AI porn or the interpropriate behavior. But 653 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,959 Speaker 5: the meating potatoes are the ghost employment with Beckweth and 654 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 5: you know where these contracts actually vet in it and 655 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 5: done in the proper way. To me, that's that's the 656 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 5: meat and the potatoes and the story. Everything else just 657 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 5: sort of garnishment in dessert. 658 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Abduel is our guest. 659 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: I would be remiss if we didn't mention this because 660 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: it happened over Christmas. Break the end of the Gabe 661 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: Whitley saka for now for now and have. 662 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 5: You filled were actually maybe another piece coming to the game. 663 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to have you fill in some holes 664 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: here in just a moment, just a reminderybody. Gabe Whitley 665 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: was a failed congressional candidate. He ran for the seventh 666 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: congressional district in the Republican primary. 667 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 3: Got dead last, and then as a part of. 668 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: That campaign, it was revealed that he had made up 669 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars in fictitious donors. He pled 670 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: guilty to this in federal court. He went, I believe, 671 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: did close to three months in a federal prison. Almost 672 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: as soon as he got out, he was incarcerated to 673 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: Marion County jail because he was also facing state charges 674 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: related to threatening you on the internet. Yes, and now 675 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: over Christmas break and we have not had a chance 676 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: to visit with you since then. 677 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 3: He pled guilty to that charge. 678 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 5: Yes, he inded guilty plea. It's partly the guilty plea. 679 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 5: He basically got his time time served because. 680 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: He'd been in the Marion County jail for several months 681 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: because he didn't want to wear the ankle monitor. 682 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 5: Exactly, and and also was part of his probation he 683 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 5: has to stay offline. 684 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 3: Now. This is a felony that he played guilty. 685 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 5: Classics felony, which is six months, two and a half 686 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 5: years in prison. 687 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 3: So he is now a felon. 688 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: Gab Whitley's now a fellon at the federal level and 689 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: the state level. 690 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 5: Yes, double your plague double your pleasure double. 691 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 3: That's quite the accomplishment anyway, go ahead. 692 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 5: And so as part of his probation, he agreed to 693 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 5: stay off of social media. No Facebook, no Twitter, no X, 694 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 5: no Instagram, no nothing. However, I found out that is 695 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 5: Who's Your Inquirer website, which is his news site, has been. 696 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 3: Posting like crazy. Ah. 697 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 5: So I'm like, Okay, what's going on here? Is it 698 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 5: Gabe doing this? Is it his Who's Your Acquired editor? 699 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 3: Bob Kern? 700 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 5: The cabal of crazy just continues to is it? John 701 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 5: Schmid says, you know what the heck is going on here? 702 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 5: So I sent an email to the Mary Country Prosecutor's office, like, hey, 703 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 5: FYI here, I think mister Whitley might be violating his 704 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 5: probation because obviously this is his website, which he has 705 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 5: command and control over, and nothing goes, nothing would go 706 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 5: by without his consent and or permission. 707 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: Now, for the record, you don't know who's been making 708 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: these posts. He's allegedly the leader of this organization, right, 709 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: but you don't know who is making the post, right. 710 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 5: That's why, Just like that's the pricey I think he 711 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 5: may be That's what I said. Maybe he was like, 712 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 5: he may be a violation of his probation. Maybe you 713 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 5: guys need to. 714 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 3: Check this out. 715 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So if he were to be in violation of 716 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 1: said requirements, that could be an issue for him. Yes, 717 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: it is back to jail. Is that not the I 718 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: was thinking about this before we sit through, before we 719 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: sat down for this segment. The gay Whitley saga is 720 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: the most bizarre thing I think guy ever remembers. It 721 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: relates to like legal issues because he spent all that 722 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: time behind bars the past year, and unlike other crimes. 723 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,439 Speaker 3: I don't think he got anything out of Nope, there's 724 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 3: no there was no nothing gained. 725 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: But you know, people do financial crimes or whatever, you know, 726 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 1: Like I take a Jamie Noll, Hey, you got caught, 727 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: but at least you lived high on the hog for 728 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: a period of time. I don't see anything this guy got. 729 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: And yet he spent a decent portion of an entire 730 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: year behind bars. 731 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 5: You got three point four million dollars in judgments against 732 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 5: him for the rest of his adult life. So I 733 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 5: guess so some kind of consolation prize? 734 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 3: All right? 735 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: You can find him over at indypolitics dot org. If 736 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: doll gives Jabaz Thank you, Hi, that's gonna do it 737 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: for us today. Thank you to Kevin has always eaten 738 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: for filling in, and most portly, thank you to you, 739 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: the listener. Without you, there is no s stick around. 740 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: Tony Katz Coming up next, Kennelly Casey ninety three WIBC