1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Now Federated Farmers are hopeful that their relationship with the 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: labour parties on the mend. Today the two of them 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: met for their annual get together, with the farmers hoping 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: to get some policy gains and labor hoping for some 5 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: good favor going into the election season. The Federated Farmer's 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: national president is Wayne Langford. 7 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: Hey, Wayne, Hey, how's it going good? Thanks? 8 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: Do you get any policy out of the announcement out 9 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: of the meeting? 10 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 3: No policy today, you may have guessed that, But no 11 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 3: policy that came out today. Some fairly solid discussion and 12 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 3: dialogue that was good, but certainly no policy. 13 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Is what did you chat about? 14 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: We were chatting about all things. Really. 15 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 3: There was a lot coming from from their side around 16 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 3: what they're working on. But then also, you know what's 17 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: happening in the farming sector as well. What we found 18 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 3: during when they were in government at last that there 19 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 3: wasn't you know, that they didn't know too much about 20 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 3: farming to be fair, And what we've worked on over 21 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: the last couple of years is increasing that knowledge of 22 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: the of the farming sector and what we're doing in 23 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 3: the egg space. 24 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: So what is it that they said that they're working on. 25 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: Ah, well, they said that they're working on all kinds 26 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 3: of policies, and then I don't think they've I don't 27 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: think I'm now down exactly where they are sitting on 28 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 3: some of them. You know, obviously we would have liked 29 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 3: to get into into fresh water, into admission's policies, and 30 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: also you know where they're ultimately getting up with the RMA, 31 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: but you know from today's discussion. 32 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: They're not there. They're not there yet or they're not 33 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: willing to announce them just yet. Anyway, Yeah, what is 34 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: your what is. 35 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: What do you reckon? If you had to take a bed. 36 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: Are they not talking about their policy because they actually 37 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: don't know what it's going to be? Or is it 38 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: because they are just trying to keep it really close 39 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: to their chest and surprise us closer to the election. 40 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,639 Speaker 3: I think we're a long way out from the election, 41 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 3: and you know, they don't want to play their cards 42 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: too really probably, you know, that's fair enough from their 43 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 3: point of view. 44 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: They're doing a pretty. 45 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: Good job at the moment of flying under the radar 46 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: and looking pretty safe and secure, and that's that's that 47 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: is what they're doing, so, you know, and that's how 48 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: they're coming across, I think, so, I guess a credit 49 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: to them for doing that, But at some stage they 50 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: are going to have to put out a bit more 51 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: policy than what they have done so far. 52 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: Now, Wayne, under the last labor government of Jacinda and 53 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: with Damien and with Chippy involved and with James Shaw, 54 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: they gave you guys a hell of a time. Do 55 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: you reckon that they've really changed their stripes. 56 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: I think what was interesting when we came out of 57 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: that and we first met with them, like say that 58 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: we've been doing this now for three years, that first 59 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: meeting three years ago, I remember that, you know, morning 60 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 3: tea on that first day that we kind of changed 61 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 3: the agenda almost because we realized the level that we 62 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: were talking was quite different to the level that they 63 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: were at, and we had to just the conversation and 64 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: really bring it back to just say what. 65 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: Is going on on the farm and what's the farmer's intimate. 66 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 3: To where we are now where we're having quite detailed 67 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 3: discussions around methane, around farm planning and farm consents and 68 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: all that sort of thing, you know, and they're. 69 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 2: Fully across it. So, like I said, it's a credit. 70 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 3: To them for getting involved in getting and understanding it 71 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 3: and and it's been good from the primary sector to 72 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 3: make sure that they know what we are talking about. 73 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: Do you reckon understanding it though, I mean understanding it 74 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: is good, but doesn't mean that they change their approach necessarily. 75 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: I think I think what you know, one thing that 76 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: we've certainly portrayed is that they're going to need to 77 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: put you know, change their approach because during the last 78 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: government we saw farmer confidence strips drop to the last 79 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 3: level that that we've ever seen since we've been recording it, 80 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 3: and we just can't go back there. And as a 81 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: farming body, you know, we certainly wouldn't be accepting it. 82 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: So you know, we're like, say, we've been having good 83 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 3: honest dialogue with them, saying, hey, if you go to 84 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: these certain directions, we're just not going to accept it. 85 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: And we're not you know, it's not going to be collaborative. 86 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: It's going to be you know, argumentative probably would be 87 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: the be the way of describing it. 88 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: So let's let's hope that we don't have to go there. 89 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: Let's hope that we have you know, the work that 90 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: we've put in an over the last couple of years 91 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: is good and we can get somewhere because yeah, I 92 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: think credit to Chris Hopkins. He has certainly learned a 93 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: lot about farming over the last couple of years and 94 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: he certainly spoke pretty well with that understanding today as well. 95 00:03:59,280 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: Good on him. 96 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: Is that Why are you're thinking about standing in Tasman 97 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: West Coast? 98 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: That room has been going around a bit, but no, no, 99 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: not okay, So feeds just keep me busy enough as 100 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: it is at the moment. 101 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: So Jay made me ask it. Jamie told me to 102 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: do that, and I got a text from one of 103 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: your mates who's sent a picture of youth. Are you 104 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: sitting in your tract to talking to me right now? 105 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: It's well ten degrees in meth and now it feels 106 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 3: like two degrees. The rain's pouring down on the roof 107 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: at the big we're at South Pacific Seats, so I 108 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 3: should give them a shout out because they're putting on 109 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: dinner tonight. But I'm actually sitting in a tractor inside 110 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 3: just to get a nice quiet room for you. 111 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for doing it. Go inside and get 112 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: warm and Wayne, it's always lovely to chat to your 113 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: Wayne Langford Federated Farmer's National Prison. 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