WEBVTT - "Struggling To Get Aroused After India..."

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<v Speaker 1>Live from the ex Board Bear Garden Studios. You're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the BYC where we're still basking on the glow

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<v Speaker 1>of our series victory against India. With that in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>I must admit to finding it difficult getting aroused in

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<v Speaker 1>any way about the T twenty series against Sri Lanka. However,

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<v Speaker 1>there were some notable performances and it's also an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to blood new players as we look to identify the

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<v Speaker 1>next tier of Black Caps, and I feel more and

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<v Speaker 1>more Dylan Cleaver that T twenty is just a breathing

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<v Speaker 1>ground now. It's something where maybe selectors and so forth

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<v Speaker 1>of various countries just said as an opportunity to give

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<v Speaker 1>other players an opportunity, which suggests to me that they

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<v Speaker 1>don't really care immensely about it. It's just a training exercise.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>Half and half? I think you're wrong. When it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to World Championships, I think they're sure. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>care very deeply about doing well at those. But in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of a non contextual bilateral T twenty series, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're dead right that it is. Let's have a

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<v Speaker 2>look at this fuller. Let's have a look and see

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<v Speaker 2>how they go under the pressure of international cricket. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, one all, I think that's probably about as

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<v Speaker 2>good as you can hope for in that New Zealand

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<v Speaker 2>team that's shorn of most of it stars. Yes, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and there were some intriguing little performances there from a

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<v Speaker 2>few guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And look, I'll be really honest with you, Paul Ford.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we've talked a lot on this podcast about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, looking at the next tier of players, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all for giving players an opportunity, but holy how

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to go from that series against India down

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<v Speaker 1>to a T twenty to you know, two program sort

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<v Speaker 1>of situation in T twenties against Sri Lanka. She's a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a drop down, mate. It's hard to get

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<v Speaker 1>the old enthusiasm going.

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<v Speaker 3>It's ratchet scheduling, it really is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I was struggled with that too. I've got to

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<v Speaker 4>say though, I was. I've been thinking about this and

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<v Speaker 4>I got a real kick out of us winning that

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<v Speaker 4>second game.

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<v Speaker 3>I really did. And for me, it.

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<v Speaker 4>Was just a little bit of icing on the cake

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<v Speaker 4>after the massively, massively unexpected result in India.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Guess that's just renewed my faith. You know, schlank are

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<v Speaker 4>that good. I think they're ranked number eight and teach

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<v Speaker 4>twenty cricket. But the fact of the matter is that

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<v Speaker 4>with that team, Mitchell Center in charge and all of

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<v Speaker 4>that Jazz pretty much the only senior player along with

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<v Speaker 4>maybe Glenn Phillips and arguably Will Young Lucky. Maybe I

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<v Speaker 4>just thought we were going to get thumped and then

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<v Speaker 4>we didn't. And so I guess the combination of those

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<v Speaker 4>two things is renewed my faith after I felt like

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<v Speaker 4>I lost it in that Sri Lankan test series. So

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<v Speaker 4>I hate to break it to you, fellas, but I'm

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<v Speaker 4>back in the frothy optimist Optimistic supporters club again Inurious.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and look, you know, I don't want to denigrate

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<v Speaker 1>it anyway, and I have always put my cards on

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<v Speaker 1>the table with regards to T twenty. I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>massive fan of it, but I it is great. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>be honest to see some new talent coming through, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to see how they go to have a completely different

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<v Speaker 1>setup in regard to the team Santana a skipper, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. So let's look at the first game. And

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, oh Lordie, okay, but having you know, there

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<v Speaker 1>was some pretty dominous signs there Dylan Cleaver, but also

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<v Speaker 1>some some nice standout performances in terms of the new Zealanders. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the first thing we should say is that

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<v Speaker 2>at Dan Buller, it was Dan Buller, wasn't it not

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<v Speaker 2>Pala Kelly. Yep, Dan Buller wasn't conducive to massively entertaining No.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty cricket. But I yeah, look, I have seen Bagger

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<v Speaker 2>all of Zach Falkes to the point where I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even really know how to say his name properly. But

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven I think it is folks.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's just folks that folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's going to go where folks from now, But

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven out of sixteen and then three for twenty

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<v Speaker 2>with the ball, and you know, he looks he looks handy,

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<v Speaker 2>like he looks the kind of and like this is

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<v Speaker 2>woefully premature, but he looks like the kind of player

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<v Speaker 2>that could really add something across all three formats.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And I think that's the good thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is that if you're sort of showing this new talent,

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<v Speaker 1>the encouraging thing is that they can potentially play across

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<v Speaker 1>all forms, not just b T twenty specialists. What were

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts there, Paul Ford in that first game.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, look, I think Folks was absolutely caught the eye.

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<v Speaker 4>He's only twenty two, I think only twenty two in June,

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<v Speaker 4>so he's a he is a young buck bowls one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and thirty five kilometers an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Not bad teams in jess it around.

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<v Speaker 4>He's got some couple of variations back of the hand,

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<v Speaker 4>slow and split finger and gives it a whack.

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<v Speaker 2>With the bat.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, this is a kid who's come out of

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<v Speaker 4>St Andrew's College, won the Gillette Cup with that first

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<v Speaker 4>eleven and twenty nineteen, from a cricket family, but he

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<v Speaker 4>is the best cricketer in his family. So yeah, his

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<v Speaker 4>old man played for Canterbury Country and he played in

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<v Speaker 4>that team with his younger brother Robbie and his older

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<v Speaker 4>brother Liam, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Real Canterbury Stock. He looks hip. I really really like

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<v Speaker 3>the look of him.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, yeah, it looks like he's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>right in contention for that sort of the next cab

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<v Speaker 4>off the rank alongside you know, someone like Nathan Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you got a Yeah, Nathan Smith, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>real prospect m And you've got to look at it

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<v Speaker 1>two in context of I guess you'd have to say

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<v Speaker 1>regarding Test cricket, Glenn Phillips is kind of out all

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<v Speaker 1>rounder now and we don't have that sort of Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Ken's type character who can bowl a pretty nippy delivery

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<v Speaker 1>and give it a bit of a thump and you

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<v Speaker 1>know you're Jimmy Nishams and so forth. Their sort of

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<v Speaker 1>down the line now, So it's encouraging. How old did

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<v Speaker 1>you say? It was? Twenty two? You know to see

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<v Speaker 1>because he caught my eye too and I thought, hello, hello,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a prospect here and certainly for higher honors in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of Test cricket.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think the one thing that's really lacking

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<v Speaker 2>from our Test side at the moment is that balance

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<v Speaker 2>that a seam bowling all around of brings. I think

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<v Speaker 2>before we started a naunting him there. He's got to

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<v Speaker 2>get a few more runs, of course, like big runs

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<v Speaker 2>in first clast cricket. But yeah, certainly, yeah, he Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he was intriguing. That's the word I kept coming back to.

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<v Speaker 2>I kept on watching him and thinking, yeah, this kid,

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<v Speaker 2>sure he might have come through the the Canterbury. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess it's now the tried and true way into the

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<v Speaker 2>New Zealand team, isn't it to go to a private

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<v Speaker 2>school in christ Church? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, now, come on now the Yeah. Can I

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<v Speaker 1>ask you guys a question just in terms of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the other formats, your one day cricket, Test cricket.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, with Michael Bracewall coming back into into the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of fray as it were, it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>head to head between him and Phillips. Now do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Think, Yeah, I think he might actually be on the

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<v Speaker 2>outer and Test cricket now sure, because Phillips has taken

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<v Speaker 2>that mantle. Yes. The one thing I would say about

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<v Speaker 2>Phillips though, is again like if he's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>an all arounder and Test cricket, he's got to start scoring

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<v Speaker 2>centuries like big runs. And he's made a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>really telling cameos at this point. But yeah, you would

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<v Speaker 2>like to see him. I mean you what Daniel for

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<v Speaker 2>Torre sixty centuries?

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<v Speaker 1>Did he?

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<v Speaker 2>I think he ended up sixtieth century?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Pretty handy average too, thirty odd.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at guys like Chris Ken's five Test centuries

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<v Speaker 2>averaging in the thirties, so I think Phillips needs to

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<v Speaker 2>have some substance to the cameos. But I do think

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<v Speaker 2>he's gone ahead of Bracewell for their off spinners around

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<v Speaker 2>us things is the other interesting thing. Who has actually

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<v Speaker 2>got a test century But you can't I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>in New Zealand conditions, in particularly, you can play more

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<v Speaker 2>than one of those spins around.

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<v Speaker 1>Us one of three there. Pull forward?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right?

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<v Speaker 1>Good?

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<v Speaker 2>Good?

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't it lovely conversation to be having? Not Oh my

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<v Speaker 4>god is injured? What the hell are we going to do?

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<v Speaker 4>It's much more about how how do we squeeze all

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<v Speaker 4>these guys in? And you know, the Williamson will Young

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<v Speaker 4>conundrum is the other one, which we've talked about previously.

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<v Speaker 4>But these are good problems, right, these are bloody good

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<v Speaker 4>problems there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I feel like you pull forward quite optimistic,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because we were here talking about oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, where's the talent coming through, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's beginning to sort of emerge, which is exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>So we go to game two and then it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh god, okay, so it's going to be a two

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<v Speaker 1>nil here but not to be Dylan Kleber.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't see a lot of the New Zealand earnings.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to confess. I just saw the highlights, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were in a huge amount of them. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Will Young might have top scored with a grinding thirty

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<v Speaker 2>or thirty two. But I did watch the entirety of

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<v Speaker 2>the chase and New Zealand were on top of things.

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<v Speaker 2>They looked good again in conditions that were pretty helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>But someone who didn't have a great tournament with the

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<v Speaker 2>sorry series with the bat, Mitch Hay certainly made up

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<v Speaker 2>for it behind the stumps in that second game with

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<v Speaker 2>six dismissals. So he's played two Internationals and he's now

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<v Speaker 2>a world record holder, and a couple of those catches

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<v Speaker 2>were pretty bloody good, including one where he dropped an

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<v Speaker 2>edge up a spinner onto the stumps and regathered it

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<v Speaker 2>before it hit the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, drama, that was.

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<v Speaker 3>A weird one.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually got on such a nerd and I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>confess this and you won't be that surprised, but when

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<v Speaker 4>that happened, I was trying to work out whether a

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<v Speaker 4>wicket keeper is allowed to sort of use the stumps

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<v Speaker 4>as leverage from making a catch. Now, not saying that

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<v Speaker 4>he did that, but obviously knocked the bails off and

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<v Speaker 4>got a bit hectic.

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<v Speaker 3>My understanding of the rules is that, yeah, you can.

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<v Speaker 4>You can kind of use the use the glove to

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<v Speaker 4>sort of wedge the and wedge the ball up against it.

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<v Speaker 4>As long as it doesn't touch the ground, you're good

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<v Speaker 4>to go. So yeah, bloody difficult thing to pull off.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he had a couple of catches like that

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<v Speaker 4>where he kind of juggled it and caught it at

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<v Speaker 4>the second go and went into the huddle cackling away

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<v Speaker 4>to himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well, and you see a lot of poultry. One

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eight and then a bit of a contribution

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<v Speaker 1>there from our good man Lucky Ferguson and Sri Lanka

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<v Speaker 1>shot the bed.

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<v Speaker 2>That hat trick. That hat trick was curious. The first

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<v Speaker 2>one it looked like a squeeze initially like there wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a massive amount of excitement. Luckie Ferguson you he had

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<v Speaker 2>had nicked it. But at first sight it looked like

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<v Speaker 2>it was a full toss that the better squeezed into

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<v Speaker 2>the ground, but it wasn't. It was actually a half folly, so.

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<v Speaker 1>That was out.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the next one was a pretty adjacent LBW coming

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<v Speaker 2>around and look at to a left hander and I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was the guy who scored all the runs

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<v Speaker 2>in the Test series. The mindoumendous. And then the third

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<v Speaker 2>one was just a rank awful delivery to our league side,

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<v Speaker 2>which the guy got a feather on and Mitchell took

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<v Speaker 2>a good catch something down the league side. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I love what Paul was written down here in the notes,

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<v Speaker 2>which is just classic Lucky right. It reeks absolutely havoc

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<v Speaker 2>and then follows it up with a torn hemy Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>or it might be calf this time, is it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what. We our fast bowlers. It's just infuriating.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the other quirkie that was always apart from Jamison

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<v Speaker 1>of course mil.

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<v Speaker 2>Who they brought over, yes, to replace, And that's tempting

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<v Speaker 2>fate of fever I've seen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So we're going and heading into the one day

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<v Speaker 1>is now and oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I just say one more point on that second game? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the set up from the Sri Lankan rabbit.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the baseball, the Shara sensational.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever seen anything like that before?

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<v Speaker 4>No, it was highly ineffective. It was terrible, but jezus

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<v Speaker 4>looked magnificent, real MLB stuff, wasn't it. Yeah, there was

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<v Speaker 4>a great piece of fielding too from Michael Bracelell in

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<v Speaker 4>that game, diving over the rope.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a fantastic.

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<v Speaker 4>Field of bracelet caught the ball, scooped it back kind

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<v Speaker 4>of under his body as he clattered onto the ground.

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<v Speaker 4>Well beyond the the toblerone. And you know, when you

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<v Speaker 4>look at the maths in the final equation, super super important.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, Glenn Phillips, great job as the closer in

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<v Speaker 4>that game. Three wickets and his over and yeah, the

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<v Speaker 4>lucky Ferguson thing. I mean, I actually when I was

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<v Speaker 4>watching that, I jotted down some notes about his first over,

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<v Speaker 4>which which was the start of the hat trick, the

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<v Speaker 4>last ball of that over, which was the eighth ball

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<v Speaker 4>of that over.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just a mannic over.

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<v Speaker 4>There were beamers, there was there were appeals, there were

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<v Speaker 4>side ages, there were it was just ridiculous. Betsman got

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<v Speaker 4>caught off a no ball. It was just absolutely wild.

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<v Speaker 4>And then he comes back, completes the hectoric and hobbles

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<v Speaker 4>off Paul Bastard.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well you know and as you said earlier, Paul Forward,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm pretty happy with one all given where

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<v Speaker 1>we were. I'll take it in our record, yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>our record in Sri Lanka and the fact that there

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<v Speaker 1>were a lot of most of the team missing. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give that a tech. I'll give that a six

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<v Speaker 1>point five out of ten. Now the one day is

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<v Speaker 1>coming up thirteenth of November, seventeenth of November and nineteenth November.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little more interested in those as rung out

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<v Speaker 1>with a hammy and lockeye out with a calf. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this looms is relatively important given that there's not

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of one day cricket. I been here in

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<v Speaker 2>the Champions Trophy, the Champions Trophy which is now looking

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<v Speaker 2>a little imperiled. You do some geopolitical differences between the

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<v Speaker 2>hosts and the most important cricket country in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>But regardless, is.

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<v Speaker 4>It just is it geopolitical? Is it just shit housery

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<v Speaker 4>from India?

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<v Speaker 2>India just refusing to go to Pakistan to play.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and Sri Lanka, of course, just for the record,

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<v Speaker 4>they don't give a shit about that because they didn't

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<v Speaker 4>qualify for the Champions Trophy, because they came ninth in

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<v Speaker 4>the World Cup, so they definitely don't care about the

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<v Speaker 4>Champions Trophy.

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<v Speaker 2>But we do, we do. And yeah, look it starts

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<v Speaker 2>tonight in dan Buller before they go to Palakelly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I am quite interested in this. I'm interested in seeing

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<v Speaker 2>how some of these guys go in a format where

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<v Speaker 2>they've got a little bit more time to express themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's probably Mitchey obviously needs some runs. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Will Young. It's funny, we were almost talking about him

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<v Speaker 2>like the senior better and the squad at the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, he's probably a fringe player at best.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is are you talking in terms of following

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<v Speaker 1>on from here for the Cheaampions Trophy? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, So there's a lot of things that Will

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<v Speaker 2>they need to sort out for the Champions Trophy, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is the start.

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<v Speaker 1>I sort of yeah, I sort of feel for Forward

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<v Speaker 1>on the Well Young front. You know that he's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of earned his place now and he deserves a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of respect and a bit of support in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>being kind of seen as a regular member of the

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<v Speaker 1>side or am I being biased?

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<v Speaker 4>I think you can be those two things. No, I

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<v Speaker 4>think right, I think, Yeah, I feel like he's I agree.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's in that spot and he should be

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<v Speaker 4>in the you know, ahead of the likes of Henry Nichols,

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<v Speaker 4>barring what happens over the next few days. So Gladdy good.

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<v Speaker 4>Good for him to be in there and under some pressure.

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<v Speaker 4>Another guy to keep an eye on. Tim Robinson, who's

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<v Speaker 4>sort of making noises about. You know, he's a contracted player,

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<v Speaker 4>didn't do much in the t twenties. Is he then

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<v Speaker 4>next Fanellen or is he not? We've mentioned Nathan Smith. Interesting,

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<v Speaker 4>interesting to be watching him and he's tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, out of a targer, out of a targer. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was reading an article about him as a

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<v Speaker 1>as a real prospect for the future. Got the most

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<v Speaker 1>wickets in the first class last year, was that right? Yep, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty nippy.

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<v Speaker 2>When I played the season of county cricket. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he might even be Omoru. Originally he might even be

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<v Speaker 2>north Ochago. But yeah, I mean he's twenty six years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Good age, good age, good age. Yet my only worry

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<v Speaker 2>about Nathan Smith is just maybe a few kilometers short

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<v Speaker 2>of what you need your start a bowling. He bowls,

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<v Speaker 2>he's kind of a hit the deck hard guy. But

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he's not tall like Jamison or Rourke. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know you've seen more of them, Paul. But

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<v Speaker 2>does he have that kind of one forty two to

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<v Speaker 2>one forty five in him?

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<v Speaker 4>I think he does, But does he have it consistently

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<v Speaker 4>or so I think as your point, yeah, I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, it's interesting there's a real trial in this

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<v Speaker 4>series for that fourth Seema because you've got Duffy, who

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<v Speaker 4>is maybe the incumbent with Sears out. Cougar Line's not

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<v Speaker 4>in here, so you know, there's a bit of a

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<v Speaker 4>duel here between a three way duel between Smith, Duffy

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, arguably someone like Folks could come steaming

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<v Speaker 4>through the middle if they decide to get a bit

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<v Speaker 4>funky for this England Test series.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, look, it's not it's not certain.

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<v Speaker 4>The other thing that Jason, I think you'll agree is

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<v Speaker 4>that it would be really good if Mark Chapman didn't

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<v Speaker 4>drop any.

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<v Speaker 2>Catches what is going on there?

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<v Speaker 1>He Look, I think he's just got the YEPS man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just that classic because as we say, all that

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<v Speaker 1>time ago where all the started for him, he's actually

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<v Speaker 1>not a bad fieldsman. He moves nicely, yes, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just you know, it's like my passing at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment. It's just all over the place. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think he gets an anxiety attack when he sees the

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<v Speaker 1>ball in the air coming towards him, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he has a full blown panic attack.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that is I think there is some something

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<v Speaker 2>merit in that. Actually, I do think that when you've

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<v Speaker 2>spilled a few, and my word is spilled a few,

0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:13.720
<v Speaker 2>you do get to a point where you're out in

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<v Speaker 2>the field and you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually hoping it doesn't come near, and the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't come near. You'd be quite heavy to station yourself

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<v Speaker 2>at third man and field a few grounders that go

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<v Speaker 2>down to third man. But you don't you do know

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<v Speaker 2>what anything in the year coming your way, And I

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<v Speaker 2>reckon Chapman's at that point that testy that catchy dropped

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<v Speaker 2>in Mumbai. Ah Man, that is just.

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<v Speaker 1>Awful, I know. But also but also you know that

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<v Speaker 1>that probably is a stot. Put me down at third man,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's a massive top edge as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>you move there, and you know, and it's isn't it funny?

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<v Speaker 1>How when shit isn't going well for you in any

0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:52.800
<v Speaker 1>form of the game, you know, but particularly fielding. The

0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:55.440
<v Speaker 1>ball suddenly starts following you around everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so hard to hide. It's so hard to hide.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, sure.

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<v Speaker 4>The other thing about this series coming up is that

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<v Speaker 4>it's obviously going to be a real spin friendly track.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're talking about, you know, trialing, running this trial

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<v Speaker 4>for the fourth sema, and I don't think we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to get a lot of pictures that are going to

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<v Speaker 4>be particularly conducive to pay some who we've got. We've

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<v Speaker 4>got sat in Embrace, Will Phillips and Sodi and Jase.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you've got the list of Shri Lankan spinners there.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at them the center of the match person himself

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you that can't see him. So do Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>how would they look at? Do you know? Well a

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<v Speaker 1>Lagi uh Commendo, Mendes, tariff Aslanka and do Himantha well done?

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I don't know much about them, but let's

0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:57.520
<v Speaker 1>assume they'll be pretty handy with the ball in hand.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the good news, Jason is that huss is not

0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:04.680
<v Speaker 4>there because his little chubby hamstring didn't hold up during

0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:07.000
<v Speaker 4>the t twenty, so he won't be there. And I'm

0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:08.760
<v Speaker 4>pretty sure the last block you mentioned is the guy

0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:13.520
<v Speaker 4>that came in from duchan Amantha, another legie. So going

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<v Speaker 4>to be plenty of intrigue at the Sri Lankan Bowl increase.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, now, let's talk about this this upcoming Test series.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've just read this here on the notes, all

0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:26.760
<v Speaker 1>but a sellout across the three tests. How good? With

0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:30.280
<v Speaker 1>the question asked, why is that? I just think Dylan

0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:36.000
<v Speaker 1>clear with it that England is always England is always

0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:38.959
<v Speaker 1>a very popular prospect for fans of cricket when they

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<v Speaker 1>come to New Zealand. It doesn't surprise me at all

0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:43.760
<v Speaker 1>that that's the case, particularly given of course we're on

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<v Speaker 1>this high after India. People are just into it.

0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:46.520
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:50.000
<v Speaker 2>They bring a big traveling support with them. Yes, I

0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:52.000
<v Speaker 2>mean the Barmai Army love coming to New Zealand.

0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:55.200
<v Speaker 3>Two percent of the tickets have been sold off shore.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah good.

0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:00.159
<v Speaker 2>And it also is the McCallum Stokes thing, Yes, that

0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:05.720
<v Speaker 2>New Zealand connection. I think you know, there's seems to

0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:08.000
<v Speaker 2>be these things go in cycles, right, and there's a

0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:11.359
<v Speaker 2>real pushback on the whole baseball term now and and

0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:15.000
<v Speaker 2>but you still can't deny that they play a brand

0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:18.199
<v Speaker 2>of cricket that's pretty intoxicating and you want to be

0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:20.439
<v Speaker 2>there to watch it. And it also is not that

0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:23.160
<v Speaker 2>long ago and it's still quite fresh in our memories

0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:28.639
<v Speaker 2>that Test from the Basin, the follow on Test, that

0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:32.040
<v Speaker 2>New Zealand one, and it's just like, yeah, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to be part of this. I mean, the only thing

0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I have a little bit of concern about is Test

0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:42.919
<v Speaker 2>in christ Stretch in November still can be a bit

0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:46.280
<v Speaker 2>nippy down there that time of year. But apart from that,

0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:49.720
<v Speaker 2>it's just yeah, get me there. Just want to be

0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:50.159
<v Speaker 2>part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm absolutely proffing about it. Pul Ford, it's so good.

0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:58.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah I am as well, of course, but you know,

0:21:58.040 --> 0:21:59.800
<v Speaker 4>as say, I'm back in full optimist mode.

0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:00.920
<v Speaker 3>Of course I am.

0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:03.200
<v Speaker 4>But I think the other thing is that the Black

0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:07.520
<v Speaker 4>Cats have earned the right of, you know, just be

0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:10.280
<v Speaker 4>selling out these three grounds. You know that what they

0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:12.400
<v Speaker 4>did in India is extraordinary. I do think people will

0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:14.920
<v Speaker 4>want to come out and salute that. There hasn't really

0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:16.960
<v Speaker 4>been an opportunity to do that as they've gone straight

0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:19.359
<v Speaker 4>on to Sri Lanka. And the other thing is for

0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:21.520
<v Speaker 4>cricket nerds like us, But there's a massive hole in

0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:25.040
<v Speaker 4>the calendar after this. I mean basically, you know, no

0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:28.479
<v Speaker 4>cricket sort of no long form cricket tool is it

0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:30.879
<v Speaker 4>next year? I think it's bloody ages. Wait and I

0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:35.040
<v Speaker 4>think only next summer. It's only the West Indies as well,

0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:37.560
<v Speaker 4>so you know there's a real gap. And of course,

0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:40.240
<v Speaker 4>and for real nerds, they will be thinking about the

0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:43.080
<v Speaker 4>maths of the World Test Championship and wanting to help

0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:46.720
<v Speaker 4>New Zealand get up and potentially potentially qualify for that

0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:48.920
<v Speaker 4>final next year at Lord's in June.

0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's just going to be an absolute cracker.

0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll be glued to the TV, much to my wife's

0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:55.639
<v Speaker 1>chagrin and.

0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Real shame of it. As Paul mentioned there is Yeah,

0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:03.720
<v Speaker 2>it's just so barren after this series. Yes, yeah, just

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<v Speaker 2>make the most of this Test series, hold on to it,

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<v Speaker 2>cuddle it, because after that, unless we make that final

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<v Speaker 2>at Lord's in June, I think it is it's a

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<v Speaker 2>long time before we're getting more five day cricket. Yeah, which,

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<v Speaker 2>actually I mean it's just a noise the shit out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, samee Man and t You're gonna have your tea too,

0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:25.119
<v Speaker 1>and he's even your one days. Give me test cricket

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<v Speaker 1>any day of the week, any day of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll tell you what we're gonna do. I're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have a little break here and come back very shortly.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to this b YC podcast. So Pakistan beat

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<v Speaker 1>Australia in Australia. I loved it. I loved it. Australia

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<v Speaker 1>of course, winning the first one day, just just but

0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:51.480
<v Speaker 1>the Australians really under the pump and not handling pace

0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 1>at all. Ralph was just next level.

0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:57.640
<v Speaker 2>How good what a great cricketer is to watch because

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<v Speaker 2>you watch them run up sometimes doesn't look like he

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<v Speaker 2>knows what has run up is. He's got these funny

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:05.359
<v Speaker 2>little paces. He seems to take off from different spots.

0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 2>A couple of the deliveries he bowled, his front foot

0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:10.880
<v Speaker 2>was only just ahead of the line where the stumps

0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 2>are at like no danger of him doing Muhammad Ama

0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:19.919
<v Speaker 2>type nobles in that game, but just real pace, like fire.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's nothing better than watching quick bowlers on top

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 2>of the game in places like Perth. Yeah, I watched

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<v Speaker 2>the entirety of that game, the decider in Perth in

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<v Speaker 2>Pakistan just so much better than Australia. It was. It

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:39.480
<v Speaker 2>was actually quite weird watching it. It was and you

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:41.360
<v Speaker 2>they're under fire Australia, They're getting.

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<v Speaker 1>It, and so they should be because asking themselves and

0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:48.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, was it Australia alb first and foremost pull

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<v Speaker 1>forward and just specifically on that final game, which was

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<v Speaker 1>the deciding game, a very very under power Australian side.

0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 1>And was that a specific decision of Australian cricket to

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<v Speaker 1>rest their key players for that match, because my assumption

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:07.640
<v Speaker 1>is that that was always what they were planning to do,

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:09.919
<v Speaker 1>but they would have thought that they would have been

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<v Speaker 1>too nill ahead by then.

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<v Speaker 4>I reckon that. I agree one hundred percent, Jase. I

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 4>reckon that was absolutely the script. And then things went

0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 4>off piece in that second game, very nearly went off

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:22.640
<v Speaker 4>piece in the first and still have mentioned, but yes,

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:25.880
<v Speaker 4>Australia are always going to going to rest their red ball

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 4>players from these games. Basically it was sort of an

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<v Speaker 4>optional to play, so I think Cummens played the Pat

0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:34.600
<v Speaker 4>Cummins played the first game. But yeah, look it was

0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:37.879
<v Speaker 4>it felt like a mismatch. That's exactly right, and I

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:41.360
<v Speaker 4>love some of the headlines. You know, Pakistan punished disengaged

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 4>Australia for their first series winning for twenty and twenty

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:46.119
<v Speaker 4>two years.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that. Some sensational pace bowling. I mean you

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:50.160
<v Speaker 3>mentioned Harris Ralph.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean the last time we saw him, I think

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 4>he was getting in a punch up at the TEA

0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 4>twenty World Cup and then he's just ferocious. Shane Shah

0:25:56.880 --> 0:25:59.959
<v Speaker 4>Fredi and Nasim Shah was sensational and I absolutely love

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you saw this, but Cooper Connley,

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<v Speaker 4>the great White Hope, this twenty one year old slogger,

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 4>the surfy looking kid and the Pakistan fast body you've

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:12.959
<v Speaker 4>never heard of. Muhammad has Nae broke his hand so

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<v Speaker 4>see you later. That probably him out for a few weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely fantastic from from Pakistan. Yeah, got a real sense

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<v Speaker 4>of joy out of that. I did love seeing Pat

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<v Speaker 4>Cummins get into trouble as his wife I assume kind

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<v Speaker 4>of not against as will, but probably.

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<v Speaker 3>Surprised him by banging that photo up on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 4>Literally as the Australians were losing, which really does wind

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<v Speaker 4>everyone up.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, you're just it was the decider.

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<v Speaker 4>You're absolutely right, I think they've stuffed up here and

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 4>it's it just plays into that narrative that Pat Cummins

0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 4>and the Australians are out of touch with Heartland Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great to see, yeah, I And you used a

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<v Speaker 1>word there in one of the headlines which I watch

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 1>was the sort of impression that I got, which was

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:05.680
<v Speaker 1>disengaged and arrogant. And you know, but what the interesting thing,

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 1>as it always is with Pakistan, is my god, they've

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 1>got talent. Their pace attack, their pace attack is next level.

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:18.360
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, why are these guys so damn erratic?

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it must be infuriating for the coaches when

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:24.159
<v Speaker 1>you've got that kind of talent that they're so up

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>and down. But it kind of turned around with that

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Test series against England, didn't it. Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>But the problem was is the problem is the test

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 2>services they put them on in Pakistan. Yes, they get

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 2>really worried about the opposition strengths. So the first Test,

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember if it was Raoul Pindi against England,

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 2>it was an absolutely flat track and Shahin Sharaffredi got

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 2>blitzed by basball, which you're not allowed to call it now.

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:54.680
<v Speaker 2>And so they lose. In Pakistan, there is no patience.

0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 2>They just lose patients straight away. So they've been him,

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 2>they've been a Nasim Shah clearly is a really good player,

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 2>gutsy player, but not those two were gone and instead

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 2>they give them absolute bunts and burner tracks. They come

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 2>back into that series through their spinners and win it.

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 2>But then you go to a place like Australia which

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:15.199
<v Speaker 2>just suits them down to the ground and you realize

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 2>how good they can be.

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes, absolutely, that's that.

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Is their problem, I think is the patience of their

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 2>selectors at home and actually giving these guys some decent

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:28.159
<v Speaker 2>services onto which to display their full pallid of skills.

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Because man, that that four prong pace attack the other day. Yeah,

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:35.360
<v Speaker 2>I barely even heard of that guy has name, but yes,

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean either he broke Connelly's hand, he was whizzing

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<v Speaker 2>it over heads. He was he looked highly entertaining.

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 4>And they had they bowl, they had they bowled this

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 4>many have spin zero. Yeah, it's just the bull blitz

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 4>And am I.

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Right in saying that. Jason Gillespie or is it Jason

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Gillespie he's the coach or he's the bowling coach.

0:28:57.320 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 2>He's the coach at the moment, and Gary Kirston was

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 2>the director of cricket. But Gary Kirston walked out when

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 2>they suddenly stripped him and Gillespie of any selectorial powers.

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:10.720
<v Speaker 2>I think that's how it went. Yes, so yeah, and

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 2>it's just off the field, it's just chaos and that

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 2>will never change.

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 4>I remember Gillespie this week too, sorry about He actually

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 4>came out in the aftermath of the series win and said,

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:28.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, the Australians were disengaged and what he means

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 4>by he means the Australian public, he means the Australian players,

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 4>and he stood the Cricket Australia's marketing. It was no

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 4>promotion of this series that he saw. Every poster, every billboard,

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 4>every social media post that he saw was for border

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 4>Gavascar for the Australia Indian Cricket Series, which really pissed

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 4>the Pakistani's off.

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 3>And obviously how they played better.

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>And it isn't fascinating because we were talking about, you

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 1>know that maybe INDIAD you know, didn't have their eye

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 1>on the ball when it came to playing us, so

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>that they too were possibly guilty of looking ahead to

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 1>that tour of Australia. Australia are guilty of the same thing,

0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 1>and as a result of that, both sides in this

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 1>huge upcoming series now look like idiots because they've been

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 1>given a hiding by the teams that they've played previous

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>to the series.

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that great?

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I love it. I love it. Don't get me wrong, man.

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 2>We're reveler Lions fighting back against the Dark Empire.

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah good.

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:26.959
<v Speaker 4>We need to factor this into our scheduling. We need

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 4>to look at when all of the headline big dog

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 4>series are and just sneak in there and play them

0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 4>just before they guess, before they get there, because I

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 4>feel like we did this to England ahead of the

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 4>Ashes as well. We just sort of snuck in there

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 4>with a slightly ramshekel team and gave them a touch

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 4>up just before the Ashes in England last time around.

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Two, you know. Having said that, actually I'm looking forward

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 1>to that series in the Australia. Oh just as a

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 1>side note here, feel as I discovered on Sky which

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>I've been enjoying quite a lot actually the sort of

0:30:56.320 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 1>domestic Australian cricket, you know, and I've been watching the Indie, RA,

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Australia or A tests. Yeah, that's you know, for cricket fans,

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 1>it's quite nice to sort of stumble upon that quality

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 1>of cricket pretty good.

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Well again, that's been quite controversial in Australia because of

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 2>those India AA, Australia A essentially became a bat off

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 2>for the one remaining opening spot, yes in the Australian

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 2>team to partner Usman Kwaja and they ended up giving

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 2>it to the guy who doesn't open South of South

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Australian middle order player Nathan McSweeney.

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>And he was a skipper, wasn't he. Oh yeah, was

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 1>he the skipper?

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 2>He did skipper And yeah, you got people. I think

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 2>it's a former Australian payer whose name just as Casey

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 2>at the moment just come out and said they're just guessing.

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 2>It's just complete guesswork. They've got no idea what they're doing. Oh.

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:51.880
<v Speaker 2>I was Joe Burns, the former Queensland opener who I

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 2>think he scored big runs against New Zealand and McCallum's

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 2>last series as skipper.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'll tell you one of the things, genuinely

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 1>as a cricket lover that I am looking forward to

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 1>us seeing how jazz well goes over there for Australia,

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>because he's great to watch and he he, he just

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 1>gives it a bash, all right. Our own domestic game,

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 1>the Plunket Shield CD versus Otago and Napier Otago two

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<v Speaker 1>O three Max two eighty five Randall four for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one and three for two CD three fifty nine for

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<v Speaker 1>nine d Kleaver one fifty one night out Muller three

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 1>for fifty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, actually they said vace a little bit since then

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Otago at the time of reading, and now one O

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 2>six for eight in their second inning is crashing towards

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 2>a heavy defeat against the mighty CD. But the curious

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 2>thing about that being three for two overnight last night

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 2>was the fact they sent two night watchmen out to

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 2>the crease. Because the first night watchman, who I think

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 2>was Travis Muller, did they have the curious incident of

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 2>being caught on the boundary, which is.

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<v Speaker 1>Not really as a night watchman, that's not your job

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>to have a tonk are your boys pull forward? I

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you got down to watch any of this.

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Wellington versus Auckland, Auckland won eighty four, Bevan Jacobs seventy five,

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Logan Van beat five for fifty three and one seventy

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 1>one for six. Will o'donald fifty two not out Wellington

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>two to seventy, Van beat one oh one. Peter old Wife,

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's some sort of set up there,

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 1>and Jordan seventy five and Jordan Sussex four for fifty.

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Paul did see it out in the window.

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 4>Regendravendra, Devin Conway and Tom Blundell all playing in that game,

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 4>along with Finn Allen. And yeah, that's advanced a little

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 4>bit as well. Auckland actually managed to rustle up three

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 4>hundred and seventeen. So I've done the quick math. It

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 4>looks like Wellington need about two hundred and thirty to

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 4>win that one. They're currently started like an absolute sack

0:33:57.520 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 4>of shit. They're one for one and both Batsman at

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 4>the crease zero not out with Retch and Revenger and

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 4>next Devin Conways and so yeah, look out, it could

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 4>be quite quite a thriller. I might have to check

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 4>my annual leave balance for this afternoon.

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:13.720
<v Speaker 2>So that's there was a nice little double of seventy

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 2>seventy five and seventy nine from I think it's Bevan

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:21.880
<v Speaker 2>John Jacobs, who's an interesting cricketer himself.

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:25.239
<v Speaker 4>So that's right, and it's been pretty that game though.

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 4>We should give Logan van Bekers shout out betting. I

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 4>think at number eight scored one hundred and a five

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 4>wicket bag. Pretty sensational from him to resurrect that first

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 4>innings of Wellington.

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Hey, just there's a very quick sideline here, fin allen.

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Ah, Now, let me tell you about his little innings

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:44.360
<v Speaker 2>opening the batting and the I think he failed in

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 2>the first deck, open the batting and the second deck.

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 2>He might even be skipper. Yeah, Paul might have to

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:53.280
<v Speaker 2>go to the interweb while I'm relating this little tale.

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:54.800
<v Speaker 3>But solely I think is the skipper.

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Solely is the skipper, right, So he was opening with

0:34:56.920 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Solier and he scored forty nine in the second ins.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure that forty nine was made up of

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<v Speaker 2>ten fours and one six. Wow, that's correct, And he

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:11.840
<v Speaker 2>went out having a wild swipe across the line.

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 1>That was good. Good Canterbury versus Indiant Hagley Canterbury three

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:20.359
<v Speaker 1>sixty one for nine Chad Bows one oh seven, Matt

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Boyle fifty nine, Christian Clark four for eighty three in

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 1>D two ninety one for eight, San Deep, Patawel fifty

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 1>six and bred Hampton fifty. Yeah.

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, Indy actually managed to get their way up to

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:36.439
<v Speaker 2>five point fifty two for nine declared, so they did

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:40.320
<v Speaker 2>really well. I'm guessing that must mean that Wags scored

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 2>some runs. But what a start to the season for

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Chad Bows. He scored that record setting double ton in

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 2>the four Trophy, scored a ton in the first round

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:54.719
<v Speaker 2>of the Plunket Shield, so yeah, all power to him.

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 2>He kind of feels like a name that's was very

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:00.799
<v Speaker 2>briefly in New Zealand Lights but as all disappeared out

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 2>of it. But perhaps there will be the second coming

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 2>of Chad Bows made.

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 3>Them thirty three and twenty six in that match.

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:11.839
<v Speaker 1>Right, great stuff. Now I will take another short break here.

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 1>When we come back, it'll be Dylan Cleavers. Who am I?

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the BYC And now it's time for

0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Dylan Cleavers. Who am I? It's Dylan Cleavers, who am I?

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:30.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, last week we had several correct answers. I thought

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:33.880
<v Speaker 2>I made the clues particularly cryptic, but people recognize that

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 2>it was in fact, Craig Spearman. A couple of good

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 2>little bits of correspondence actually from Matt Parker wrote, Hey guys,

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:42.719
<v Speaker 2>I believe the answer is Craig Spearman. I moved to

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 2>London to work in banking around the same time as his.

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 2>As him, I grew up as a wisty, although not

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:50.840
<v Speaker 2>quite as big as whisty as where he went to school.

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I think he were to Kelston Boys. I always thought

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:56.919
<v Speaker 2>that Craig Spearman was in my commercial law tutorial once

0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 2>at Auckland Union nineteen ninety three. Had heard of him

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 2>listen to the shell trophy, just looked it up and

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 2>he went to Massy. So now that whole story is

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:06.799
<v Speaker 2>ruined all the best man.

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Sorry about that.

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:13.319
<v Speaker 2>And Peter Douglas wrote, Craig Mary Spearman, tough clues. I

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 2>just think about these things a lot. I understand, Peter,

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 2>so do I. I seem to record he had three

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 2>hundred plus for Gloucestershire, which broke the county record held

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 2>by a reasonable player named W. G. Grace. Mind blowing

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:26.719
<v Speaker 2>stuff for any black Cat fan left pulling their hair

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 2>out at his lovely but inconsequential twenties and thirties in

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 2>the late nineties. Keep up the great work. That is correct.

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:38.719
<v Speaker 1>He was such an exasperating player, wasn't he? Man? And

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 1>he's right lovely twenties and thirties. Ah, he had so

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:45.800
<v Speaker 1>much talent, Craig Spearman.

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:47.359
<v Speaker 2>He looked like he could see your past.

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:54.160
<v Speaker 4>Yes, destructive, absolutely destructive batsman on his day. That three

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:58.120
<v Speaker 4>hundred and forty one that he got for Gloucestershire unbelievable.

0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 4>He's an absolute legend in there at that county, isn't he.

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:04.279
<v Speaker 4>And the other thing about him quite a sort of

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 4>quite a sad story. Actually, he was a compulsive gambler

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 4>and has been a real front man for that. I

0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:12.359
<v Speaker 4>think we might have talked about that that before, but yeah,

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:15.719
<v Speaker 4>quite quite sad. And he genuinely talks about, you know,

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:19.120
<v Speaker 4>the time that he can pinpoint when it moved from

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:21.800
<v Speaker 4>being recreational gambling to problem gambling.

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 3>And then Black Captain stopped over.

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:25.840
<v Speaker 4>I think it was in Ken's on the way to

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 4>a tour in India or Pakistan or off to the

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.399
<v Speaker 4>sub continent, and he lost an absolute ship ton of money,

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:36.279
<v Speaker 4>won it all back, but realized realized that he had

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:39.920
<v Speaker 4>had a real problem and yeah that kind of he

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:44.240
<v Speaker 4>had this. I think it was his wife got really sick,

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 4>and yeah there was also there's all sorts of really

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 4>difficult stuff that he's had to encounter. So yeah, quite

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 4>an interesting character for sure.

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 1>All Right, Dylan hit us mate.

0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:53.799
<v Speaker 2>All Right, this one's a bit of a sad one,

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 2>ag but here we go.

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:55.879
<v Speaker 1>Who am I?

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 2>I made my first class debut while still at school,

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:01.319
<v Speaker 2>with a small curiosity being that it wasn't even one

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:04.839
<v Speaker 2>of the right schools inverted commas that dominated the christ

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Church cricket scene. I was a man of notable firsts,

0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 2>including scoring my one and only first class century in

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 2>less than an hour against Otago. Think about that, a

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:18.359
<v Speaker 2>century in fifty three minutes. And that same game I

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:21.320
<v Speaker 2>also dismissed the yappy little wicket keeper for a golden

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 2>deck and later in the match for two. I'm not

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:27.920
<v Speaker 2>surprised Ted Henry rose to prominence in the Winter Game instead.

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Another first was being banned for a Test for a

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 2>relatively arcane transgression. But my most notable moment in another

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 2>first came in I dismissed Phil Sharp LBW for forty

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:41.759
<v Speaker 2>eight at the Oval. Though if I gave you any

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:44.759
<v Speaker 2>more details, i'd be giving the game away. I was

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:46.919
<v Speaker 2>known as the workingman's hero for the way I played

0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 2>the game, and that was more to do with my

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 2>mighty six hitting than anything else. But fast, occasionally hostile

0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 2>bowling was my raison datre. Unfortunately, life was not kind

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 2>to me once I left the sport. Couple of failed

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:03.360
<v Speaker 2>marriages it was one thing, failed attempts as a public

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 2>in another, but worst of all was a family tragedy

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 2>that haunted me until my final morbidly obese breath. Who

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:18.440
<v Speaker 2>am I? Hmm, well, you just gave the universe. It

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:20.919
<v Speaker 2>was signal of an eyebrow raise, which in the case

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:21.879
<v Speaker 2>that I think you know it.

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.959
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's quite a great another quite slightly grim story. DC,

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:29.880
<v Speaker 3>it's a good good clothes, very good clothes, I thought.

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Very good. With that in mind, let's have Paul Ford's

0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:34.440
<v Speaker 1>news or Ruse.

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 3>Jace. You're going to be bloody excited about the fact.

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 4>There's a new five team T twenty tournament called the

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 4>Global Super League launching in Guyana in late November, featuring

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 4>teams from five different countries, sanctioned by the by Cricket

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:57.400
<v Speaker 4>West Indies and fully supported by the state government. Was

0:40:57.480 --> 0:41:01.400
<v Speaker 4>the National Government Guyana anyway, and prize money US a

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:06.319
<v Speaker 4>million dollars. It's going to feature the Amazon Warriors and

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:11.880
<v Speaker 4>a team from Cricket Victoria, the lahau Wilanders, Hampshire Cricket

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 4>Club and Rangper Riders from Bangladesh and none other than

0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:22.839
<v Speaker 4>Cory Anderson will be captaining the Cricket Victoria team number two.

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 3>The White Fans opening.

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:26.320
<v Speaker 4>Game of the summer against Australia at the Basin Reserve

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 4>will be gold coin entry as New Zealand Cricket looks

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 4>to keep up the momentum behind the newly crowned icc

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:36.400
<v Speaker 4>T twenty World champions Legends. The first ODII of the

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 4>Rose Bowl Series is on Thursday December the nineteenth, of course,

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:43.080
<v Speaker 4>another piece of grim news and New Zealand haven't won

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:46.360
<v Speaker 4>that for twenty five years. New Zealand Cricket said the

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 4>White Fans are a team. The New Zealand public are

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:51.360
<v Speaker 4>really embracing at present and we're determined to make the

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:54.360
<v Speaker 4>most of it. They've seen large crowns, crowds of excited

0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:56.760
<v Speaker 4>fans turning up and down the country during the trophy

0:41:56.800 --> 0:41:59.319
<v Speaker 4>tour and they need the supporters they get into this

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 4>Crunch series against the dirty, filthy, cheating Australians.

0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 3>And number three West Indies fastball Alzari Joseph has been

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 3>suspended for two matches by Cricket West Indy's over a

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 3>very public disagreement with captain Shy Hope of a field

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 3>placements during an ODII against England this week, which the

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 3>West Indies won. Ironically, Joseph and Hope engaged in a

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 3>lengthy argument for Joseph's over and he had to be

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 3>urged by the umpires to resume play after a ball

0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:24.319
<v Speaker 3>was played away on the off side During the over.

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:26.880
<v Speaker 4>Joseph remonstrated with Hope. When the over ended, he just

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:28.040
<v Speaker 4>simply walked off the field.

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Unbelievable. Cricket West Indies said.

0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:35.000
<v Speaker 4>In a statement that his conduct fell short of their

0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:39.240
<v Speaker 4>standards of professionalism. Joseph, to be fair, also apologized and said,

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry.

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:41.920
<v Speaker 3>My passion got the best of me.

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it's you'll tend to go first.

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Actually, d C had a lot of luck of this lately.

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:50.279
<v Speaker 1>No, you mean I've been giving luck.

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:51.359
<v Speaker 3>It's not about luck.

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:55.399
<v Speaker 2>So that Western he's one is dead right. I watched that.

0:42:55.400 --> 0:43:02.200
<v Speaker 2>That was hilarious, that that was insane. I don't know

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:05.880
<v Speaker 2>anything about that Global Super League. It just sounds bizarre.

0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Why did they pick those five teams to go and

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:10.759
<v Speaker 2>play in Guyana. But I'm going to go with the

0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:13.719
<v Speaker 2>White Fans because I believe that it's not even a

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 2>gold coin entry. I just believe it's just free. That's

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 2>what I was marketed as. Anyway, in the email, I

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 2>go from New Zealand Cricket free entry.

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go for the first option because it

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:28.480
<v Speaker 1>sounds like a hideous disgrace of a tournament, and I'm

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:33.319
<v Speaker 1>going to say the prize money is incorrect.

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:37.479
<v Speaker 4>Like the rage and the fury in your belly chase.

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:39.360
<v Speaker 4>But Dylan Clever's going to take this one home. That

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:40.160
<v Speaker 4>is exactly right.

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 3>As free entry to the White Fans game at you,

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 3>I'd be.

0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Back, knew whatever, whatever, All right now, I believe now,

0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Dylan Cleaver, you're going to give us a book review

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:58.000
<v Speaker 1>of the twenty twenty four New Zealand Cricket Almanac.

0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that wone work on a podcast so well. But

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:05.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm holding it up now so my fellow pundits and

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:08.920
<v Speaker 2>panelists can see the cover. It is. I've remiss of

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 2>this not to do it earlier actually, because it's always

0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 2>a it's always a great day for me when the

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:18.319
<v Speaker 2>book drops through into my letterbox from the publishers.

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:20.319
<v Speaker 4>Do you get it for free or do you pay

0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:21.879
<v Speaker 4>fifty five dollars like the riff Raft.

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:24.400
<v Speaker 2>I must I get it for free?

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:26.840
<v Speaker 3>No, wonder you look to it, bugger.

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:31.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's it's always immaculately presented. This time Retch

0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:33.840
<v Speaker 2>and Revenger is on the cover after he's scored his

0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:36.799
<v Speaker 2>double ton against South Africa. I think that's fair enough.

0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Can I just ask you a question. I'm just I'm

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 1>just watching you holding that book, Dylan, and I can

0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:44.320
<v Speaker 1>see it's like I used to be when I was

0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 1>a little kid with brand new stationery. I can see

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:49.720
<v Speaker 1>the glee and the joy. Do you get quite excited

0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:51.319
<v Speaker 1>when do you handle new books? Yeah?

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:53.880
<v Speaker 2>I smell them, Yes, good. I don't know what I

0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 2>expect them to smell like, but I'm always.

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Pleased newly printed.

0:44:57.680 --> 0:45:01.799
<v Speaker 2>Newly printed smell. And just a couple of points of

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:05.640
<v Speaker 2>interest in it. As the players of the year were

0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 2>ritching Revendra and Kane Williamson, which I don't think you

0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:11.960
<v Speaker 2>can argue about. They both had incredible seasons, but the

0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:18.799
<v Speaker 2>promising players Zach Folks, Will O'Rourke and Gareth Severin, and

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:23.760
<v Speaker 2>I think they've already probably been proved pretty accurate. Accurate

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:27.880
<v Speaker 2>on folks in willow'rourke, it might take Gareth Severin a

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:31.480
<v Speaker 2>little bit longer to make that step up. But there

0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:35.600
<v Speaker 2>was one other thing that like Francis Payne and Ian

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Smith who compile this just legends in their field. And

0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize this, This is this little factoid, yes,

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:46.879
<v Speaker 2>escaped me. But with those wins in India, with Tim

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Sowdy playing two tests that one, he is now the

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:55.120
<v Speaker 2>most successful test cricketer in New Zealand history. Wow, did

0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:57.239
<v Speaker 2>you realize that? No, he now has.

0:45:57.200 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know either that. That's a bloody good record

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:01.640
<v Speaker 4>to have, isn't it. I've won Imagine going to the

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:04.799
<v Speaker 4>pub and going I've won more Test matches for New

0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:06.799
<v Speaker 4>Zealand than anyone else in the history of the game.

0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's good, that's a good record.

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:11.000
<v Speaker 2>It's amazing. So he went past Ross Taylor. He is

0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:14.920
<v Speaker 2>now forty six. Ross Taylor as forty four. Cain Williamson,

0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:17.560
<v Speaker 2>who lester remind you did not play in any of

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:20.600
<v Speaker 2>the three tests and is stuck on forty three, but

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:27.640
<v Speaker 2>I suspect that he will eventually pass both Sauvi and Taylor.

0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:29.879
<v Speaker 1>How long does Cain go for?

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Two more years? Reckon?

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Two more?

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Maybe three? I think he might do the next Wiltis

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Championship cycle and that might be it for him. I

0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I've got no that's just speculations.

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 1>He's really struggled with injury. He seems to be under

0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:47.720
<v Speaker 1>the gun a lot these days.

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 4>I reckon, I reckon it could be the end of

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:53.160
<v Speaker 4>this England series?

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:55.439
<v Speaker 2>Do you reckon? I reckon it could be for Suvi.

0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:59.839
<v Speaker 2>I honestly think this summer might be Soudy's last, But

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<v Speaker 2>well it might. The choice might not be his, to

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<v Speaker 2>be fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, that's a grim thought, Yeah, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>Pull forwards? Cricket violence corners, cricket violence corner gun.

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<v Speaker 4>A man's been assaulted in an apparent road rage incident

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<v Speaker 4>in high Wickham Valley. Police have launch an appeal for

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<v Speaker 4>witnesses following the assault. When two men got out of

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<v Speaker 4>a dark colored carn Air traffic lights on doors Hill Lane.

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<v Speaker 4>They proceeded to use homophobic language towards the victim, A

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<v Speaker 4>man in his forties before assaulting him with a cricket bat.

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<v Speaker 4>The victims suffered injuries which required hospital treatment, but he's

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<v Speaker 4>since been discharged. Officers are appealing for witnesses and footage

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<v Speaker 4>to the incident. The maker's name of the bat was

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<v Speaker 4>unable to be seen in security footage. I know because

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<v Speaker 4>I locked. The driver of the car is described vaguely

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<v Speaker 4>as thus mixed heritage, in his early thirties and around

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<v Speaker 4>six feet tall. That would cover about seventy percent of

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<v Speaker 4>the people in that area.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd suggest, how.

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<v Speaker 2>Am they know his mixed heritage for what has mixed me?

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<v Speaker 2>He could be just heritage. What they're saying is he's

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<v Speaker 2>not classically Anglo Saxon, aren't they.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they're saying. Hey, you know to your correspondence,

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<v Speaker 1>this is from Jack, and he writes, hey, guys, love

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<v Speaker 1>your work may need some deeper analysis here, but I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to draw attention to a wider member of the

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<v Speaker 1>black Caps team that seems to have an interesting knack

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<v Speaker 1>for winning. Mike Sandor, the current team manager. He joined

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<v Speaker 1>the black Caps at the start of the twenty eleven

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twelve summer and finished up early twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>quite clearly the meat and bones of our golden era.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty twenty two, right when the black Caps performances

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<v Speaker 1>started to dip, he took up a CEO position at

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<v Speaker 1>Taranaki Rugby, this being the region he grew up in.

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<v Speaker 1>During the two years he was in this position, the

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<v Speaker 1>Taranaki Bulls won the provisional title in twenty twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>and had a very good win record in twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>might I add, finishing with the great Ranfordy Shield. He

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<v Speaker 1>then joins the black Caps again in twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>for right before the greatest Test series in New Zealand

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<v Speaker 1>cricket history. Coincidence or is there something a bit more

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<v Speaker 1>at foot here? Whatever it is, I hope his presence

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<v Speaker 1>brings plenty more victories in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>Dylan Cleaver, Yeah, there's a bit of a spell check

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<v Speaker 2>or what is it, what's it called autocorrect issue? There?

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<v Speaker 2>It was the provincial title rather than the provisional title.

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<v Speaker 2>But ah right, Yeah. As a keen man of the

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<v Speaker 2>Taraniki as well, I have followed Mike Sanders progress very

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<v Speaker 2>closely and there is something quite freaky actually about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder what they had to do to convince him

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<v Speaker 2>to come back.

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<v Speaker 4>I yeah, he does seem like a bit of a

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<v Speaker 4>lucky charm, but I think that massively sort of undervalues

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<v Speaker 4>his contribution. I think the role that he's come back to,

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<v Speaker 4>as I understand it without getting into sort of page

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<v Speaker 4>seven of the job description, but I think it's much

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<v Speaker 4>more focused on that broader performance of the of the team,

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<v Speaker 4>and so looking after the crew that managed the performance

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<v Speaker 4>of the team, rather than just the sort of logistics

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<v Speaker 4>and where the suitcases are going and the admin and

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<v Speaker 4>how many people want bacon with their eggs and all

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<v Speaker 4>of that kind of stuff and all the cricket diplomacy.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a yet very much kind of in

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<v Speaker 4>the thick of the action with the team, which is

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<v Speaker 4>fantastic in terms of that question though DC.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've got absolutely no idea.

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<v Speaker 4>But it does seem a curious move to sort of

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<v Speaker 4>come out and say, yep, really great, can't wait to

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<v Speaker 4>go home? Be great to get rid of all of

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<v Speaker 4>the travel and all of that kind of stuff. He

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<v Speaker 4>did go in there. It coincided with that Silver Lake

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<v Speaker 4>money being handed down, and I do wonder whether some

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<v Speaker 4>of the shenanigans that have created a lot of headlines

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot of anks and rugby circles. He maybe

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<v Speaker 4>just was there for the taking for New Zealand cricket

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<v Speaker 4>and bloody good on them forgetting them, I'd.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, great Steven, terms of your correspondence, pulled forward, What

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<v Speaker 1>do they need to do?

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<v Speaker 4>Flick as an email to b YC at Beije Brigade

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<v Speaker 4>dot code on end ed will slide into the DMS

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<v Speaker 4>of the alternative commentary collective All the Beige Brigade on

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<v Speaker 4>Instagram or Facebook. Keep it to a sort of one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred words or thereabouts, just to so we can screenshot

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<v Speaker 4>it into our WhatsApp chat and bring it up to

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<v Speaker 4>up to the mixer each week.

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<v Speaker 1>Great stuff. Hey well thanks for taking the time to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to this podcast telling your mates about it. Why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you and we will be back of course, same time,

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<v Speaker 1>same place next week. Till then, see you later.