Speaker 1: Live from the ex Board Bear Garden Studios. You're listening
Speaker 1: to the BYC where we're still basking on the glow
Speaker 1: of our series victory against India. With that in mind,
Speaker 1: I must admit to finding it difficult getting aroused in
Speaker 1: any way about the T twenty series against Sri Lanka. However,
Speaker 1: there were some notable performances and it's also an opportunity
Speaker 1: to blood new players as we look to identify the
Speaker 1: next tier of Black Caps, and I feel more and
Speaker 1: more Dylan Cleaver that T twenty is just a breathing
Speaker 1: ground now. It's something where maybe selectors and so forth
Speaker 1: of various countries just said as an opportunity to give
Speaker 1: other players an opportunity, which suggests to me that they
Speaker 1: don't really care immensely about it. It's just a training exercise.
Speaker 1: Am I wrong?
Speaker 2: Half and half? I think you're wrong. When it comes
Speaker 2: to World Championships, I think they're sure. I think they
Speaker 2: care very deeply about doing well at those. But in
Speaker 2: terms of a non contextual bilateral T twenty series, I
Speaker 2: think you're dead right that it is. Let's have a
Speaker 2: look at this fuller. Let's have a look and see
Speaker 2: how they go under the pressure of international cricket. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, one all, I think that's probably about as
Speaker 2: good as you can hope for in that New Zealand
Speaker 2: team that's shorn of most of it stars. Yes, and yeah,
Speaker 2: and there were some intriguing little performances there from a
Speaker 2: few guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And look, I'll be really honest with you, Paul Ford.
Speaker 1: You know, we've talked a lot on this podcast about,
Speaker 1: you know, looking at the next tier of players, and
Speaker 1: I'm all for giving players an opportunity, but holy how
Speaker 1: I mean to go from that series against India down
Speaker 1: to a T twenty to you know, two program sort
Speaker 1: of situation in T twenties against Sri Lanka. She's a
Speaker 1: bit of a drop down, mate. It's hard to get
Speaker 1: the old enthusiasm going.
Speaker 3: It's ratchet scheduling, it really is.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I was struggled with that too. I've got to
Speaker 4: say though, I was. I've been thinking about this and
Speaker 4: I got a real kick out of us winning that
Speaker 4: second game.
Speaker 3: I really did. And for me, it.
Speaker 4: Was just a little bit of icing on the cake
Speaker 4: after the massively, massively unexpected result in India.
Speaker 3: And you know, I.
Speaker 4: Guess that's just renewed my faith. You know, schlank are
Speaker 4: that good. I think they're ranked number eight and teach
Speaker 4: twenty cricket. But the fact of the matter is that
Speaker 4: with that team, Mitchell Center in charge and all of
Speaker 4: that Jazz pretty much the only senior player along with
Speaker 4: maybe Glenn Phillips and arguably Will Young Lucky. Maybe I
Speaker 4: just thought we were going to get thumped and then
Speaker 4: we didn't. And so I guess the combination of those
Speaker 4: two things is renewed my faith after I felt like
Speaker 4: I lost it in that Sri Lankan test series. So
Speaker 4: I hate to break it to you, fellas, but I'm
Speaker 4: back in the frothy optimist Optimistic supporters club again Inurious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, you know, I don't want to denigrate
Speaker 1: it anyway, and I have always put my cards on
Speaker 1: the table with regards to T twenty. I'm not a
Speaker 1: massive fan of it, but I it is great. Let's
Speaker 1: be honest to see some new talent coming through, you know,
Speaker 1: to see how they go to have a completely different
Speaker 1: setup in regard to the team Santana a skipper, et cetera,
Speaker 1: et cetera. So let's look at the first game. And
Speaker 1: I thought, oh Lordie, okay, but having you know, there
Speaker 1: was some pretty dominous signs there Dylan Cleaver, but also
Speaker 1: some some nice standout performances in terms of the new Zealanders. Yep.
Speaker 2: I think the first thing we should say is that
Speaker 2: at Dan Buller, it was Dan Buller, wasn't it not
Speaker 2: Pala Kelly. Yep, Dan Buller wasn't conducive to massively entertaining No.
Speaker 2: Twenty cricket. But I yeah, look, I have seen Bagger
Speaker 2: all of Zach Falkes to the point where I don't
Speaker 2: even really know how to say his name properly. But
Speaker 2: twenty seven I think it is folks.
Speaker 3: I think it's just folks that folks.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's going to go where folks from now, But
Speaker 2: twenty seven out of sixteen and then three for twenty
Speaker 2: with the ball, and you know, he looks he looks handy,
Speaker 2: like he looks the kind of and like this is
Speaker 2: woefully premature, but he looks like the kind of player
Speaker 2: that could really add something across all three formats.
Speaker 1: Yes, And I think that's the good thing, you know,
Speaker 1: is that if you're sort of showing this new talent,
Speaker 1: the encouraging thing is that they can potentially play across
Speaker 1: all forms, not just b T twenty specialists. What were
Speaker 1: your thoughts there, Paul Ford in that first game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I think Folks was absolutely caught the eye.
Speaker 4: He's only twenty two, I think only twenty two in June,
Speaker 4: so he's a he is a young buck bowls one
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty five kilometers an hour.
Speaker 1: Not bad teams in jess it around.
Speaker 4: He's got some couple of variations back of the hand,
Speaker 4: slow and split finger and gives it a whack.
Speaker 2: With the bat.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is a kid who's come out of
Speaker 4: St Andrew's College, won the Gillette Cup with that first
Speaker 4: eleven and twenty nineteen, from a cricket family, but he
Speaker 4: is the best cricketer in his family. So yeah, his
Speaker 4: old man played for Canterbury Country and he played in
Speaker 4: that team with his younger brother Robbie and his older
Speaker 4: brother Liam, so.
Speaker 3: Real Canterbury Stock. He looks hip. I really really like
Speaker 3: the look of him.
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, it looks like he's going to be
Speaker 4: right in contention for that sort of the next cab
Speaker 4: off the rank alongside you know, someone like Nathan Smith.
Speaker 1: I think you got a Yeah, Nathan Smith, he's a
Speaker 1: real prospect m And you've got to look at it
Speaker 1: two in context of I guess you'd have to say
Speaker 1: regarding Test cricket, Glenn Phillips is kind of out all
Speaker 1: rounder now and we don't have that sort of Chris
Speaker 1: Ken's type character who can bowl a pretty nippy delivery
Speaker 1: and give it a bit of a thump and you
Speaker 1: know you're Jimmy Nishams and so forth. Their sort of
Speaker 1: down the line now, So it's encouraging. How old did
Speaker 1: you say? It was? Twenty two? You know to see
Speaker 1: because he caught my eye too and I thought, hello, hello,
Speaker 1: he's a prospect here and certainly for higher honors in
Speaker 1: terms of Test cricket.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the one thing that's really lacking
Speaker 2: from our Test side at the moment is that balance
Speaker 2: that a seam bowling all around of brings. I think
Speaker 2: before we started a naunting him there. He's got to
Speaker 2: get a few more runs, of course, like big runs
Speaker 2: in first clast cricket. But yeah, certainly, yeah, he Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was intriguing. That's the word I kept coming back to.
Speaker 2: I kept on watching him and thinking, yeah, this kid,
Speaker 2: sure he might have come through the the Canterbury. I
Speaker 2: guess it's now the tried and true way into the
Speaker 2: New Zealand team, isn't it to go to a private
Speaker 2: school in christ Church? Oh?
Speaker 1: Come on, now, come on now the Yeah. Can I
Speaker 1: ask you guys a question just in terms of, you know,
Speaker 1: looking at the other formats, your one day cricket, Test cricket.
Speaker 1: You know, with Michael Bracewall coming back into into the
Speaker 1: sort of fray as it were, it's kind of a
Speaker 1: head to head between him and Phillips. Now do you.
Speaker 2: Think, Yeah, I think he might actually be on the
Speaker 2: outer and Test cricket now sure, because Phillips has taken
Speaker 2: that mantle. Yes. The one thing I would say about
Speaker 2: Phillips though, is again like if he's going to be
Speaker 2: an all arounder and Test cricket, he's got to start scoring
Speaker 2: centuries like big runs. And he's made a couple of
Speaker 2: really telling cameos at this point. But yeah, you would
Speaker 2: like to see him. I mean you what Daniel for
Speaker 2: Torre sixty centuries?
Speaker 1: Did he?
Speaker 2: I think he ended up sixtieth century?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Pretty handy average too, thirty odd.
Speaker 2: You look at guys like Chris Ken's five Test centuries
Speaker 2: averaging in the thirties, so I think Phillips needs to
Speaker 2: have some substance to the cameos. But I do think
Speaker 2: he's gone ahead of Bracewell for their off spinners around
Speaker 2: us things is the other interesting thing. Who has actually
Speaker 2: got a test century But you can't I don't think
Speaker 2: in New Zealand conditions, in particularly, you can play more
Speaker 2: than one of those spins around.
Speaker 1: Us one of three there. Pull forward?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right?
Speaker 1: Good?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 4: Isn't it lovely conversation to be having? Not Oh my
Speaker 4: god is injured? What the hell are we going to do?
Speaker 4: It's much more about how how do we squeeze all
Speaker 4: these guys in? And you know, the Williamson will Young
Speaker 4: conundrum is the other one, which we've talked about previously.
Speaker 4: But these are good problems, right, these are bloody good
Speaker 4: problems there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I feel like you pull forward quite optimistic,
Speaker 1: you know, because we were here talking about oh god,
Speaker 1: I mean, where's the talent coming through, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1: And it's beginning to sort of emerge, which is exciting.
Speaker 1: So we go to game two and then it's like,
Speaker 1: oh god, okay, so it's going to be a two
Speaker 1: nil here but not to be Dylan Kleber.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't see a lot of the New Zealand earnings.
Speaker 2: I have to confess. I just saw the highlights, and
Speaker 2: they were in a huge amount of them. I think
Speaker 2: Will Young might have top scored with a grinding thirty
Speaker 2: or thirty two. But I did watch the entirety of
Speaker 2: the chase and New Zealand were on top of things.
Speaker 2: They looked good again in conditions that were pretty helpful.
Speaker 2: But someone who didn't have a great tournament with the
Speaker 2: sorry series with the bat, Mitch Hay certainly made up
Speaker 2: for it behind the stumps in that second game with
Speaker 2: six dismissals. So he's played two Internationals and he's now
Speaker 2: a world record holder, and a couple of those catches
Speaker 2: were pretty bloody good, including one where he dropped an
Speaker 2: edge up a spinner onto the stumps and regathered it
Speaker 2: before it hit the ground.
Speaker 1: Yes, drama, that was.
Speaker 3: A weird one.
Speaker 4: I actually got on such a nerd and I shouldn't
Speaker 4: confess this and you won't be that surprised, but when
Speaker 4: that happened, I was trying to work out whether a
Speaker 4: wicket keeper is allowed to sort of use the stumps
Speaker 4: as leverage from making a catch. Now, not saying that
Speaker 4: he did that, but obviously knocked the bails off and
Speaker 4: got a bit hectic.
Speaker 3: My understanding of the rules is that, yeah, you can.
Speaker 4: You can kind of use the use the glove to
Speaker 4: sort of wedge the and wedge the ball up against it.
Speaker 4: As long as it doesn't touch the ground, you're good
Speaker 4: to go. So yeah, bloody difficult thing to pull off.
Speaker 4: I think he had a couple of catches like that
Speaker 4: where he kind of juggled it and caught it at
Speaker 4: the second go and went into the huddle cackling away
Speaker 4: to himself.
Speaker 1: Yes, well, and you see a lot of poultry. One
Speaker 1: hundred and eight and then a bit of a contribution
Speaker 1: there from our good man Lucky Ferguson and Sri Lanka
Speaker 1: shot the bed.
Speaker 2: That hat trick. That hat trick was curious. The first
Speaker 2: one it looked like a squeeze initially like there wasn't
Speaker 2: a massive amount of excitement. Luckie Ferguson you he had
Speaker 2: had nicked it. But at first sight it looked like
Speaker 2: it was a full toss that the better squeezed into
Speaker 2: the ground, but it wasn't. It was actually a half folly, so.
Speaker 1: That was out.
Speaker 2: Then the next one was a pretty adjacent LBW coming
Speaker 2: around and look at to a left hander and I
Speaker 2: think it was the guy who scored all the runs
Speaker 2: in the Test series. The mindoumendous. And then the third
Speaker 2: one was just a rank awful delivery to our league side,
Speaker 2: which the guy got a feather on and Mitchell took
Speaker 2: a good catch something down the league side. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I love what Paul was written down here in the notes,
Speaker 2: which is just classic Lucky right. It reeks absolutely havoc
Speaker 2: and then follows it up with a torn hemy Yeah,
Speaker 2: or it might be calf this time, is it.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. We our fast bowlers. It's just infuriating.
Speaker 1: Who's the other quirkie that was always apart from Jamison
Speaker 1: of course mil.
Speaker 2: Who they brought over, yes, to replace, And that's tempting
Speaker 2: fate of fever I've seen.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we're going and heading into the one day
Speaker 1: is now and oh.
Speaker 2: Can I just say one more point on that second game? Yes,
Speaker 2: the set up from the Sri Lankan rabbit.
Speaker 1: Of the baseball, the Shara sensational.
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen anything like that before?
Speaker 4: No, it was highly ineffective. It was terrible, but jezus
Speaker 4: looked magnificent, real MLB stuff, wasn't it. Yeah, there was
Speaker 4: a great piece of fielding too from Michael Bracelell in
Speaker 4: that game, diving over the rope.
Speaker 3: He's a fantastic.
Speaker 4: Field of bracelet caught the ball, scooped it back kind
Speaker 4: of under his body as he clattered onto the ground.
Speaker 4: Well beyond the the toblerone. And you know, when you
Speaker 4: look at the maths in the final equation, super super important.
Speaker 4: And yeah, Glenn Phillips, great job as the closer in
Speaker 4: that game. Three wickets and his over and yeah, the
Speaker 4: lucky Ferguson thing. I mean, I actually when I was
Speaker 4: watching that, I jotted down some notes about his first over,
Speaker 4: which which was the start of the hat trick, the
Speaker 4: last ball of that over, which was the eighth ball
Speaker 4: of that over.
Speaker 3: It was just a mannic over.
Speaker 4: There were beamers, there was there were appeals, there were
Speaker 4: side ages, there were it was just ridiculous. Betsman got
Speaker 4: caught off a no ball. It was just absolutely wild.
Speaker 4: And then he comes back, completes the hectoric and hobbles
Speaker 4: off Paul Bastard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know and as you said earlier, Paul Forward,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm pretty happy with one all given where
Speaker 1: we were. I'll take it in our record, yes, and
Speaker 1: our record in Sri Lanka and the fact that there
Speaker 1: were a lot of most of the team missing. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll give that a tech. I'll give that a six
Speaker 1: point five out of ten. Now the one day is
Speaker 1: coming up thirteenth of November, seventeenth of November and nineteenth November.
Speaker 1: I'm a little more interested in those as rung out
Speaker 1: with a hammy and lockeye out with a calf. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this looms is relatively important given that there's not
Speaker 2: a lot of one day cricket. I been here in
Speaker 2: the Champions Trophy, the Champions Trophy which is now looking
Speaker 2: a little imperiled. You do some geopolitical differences between the
Speaker 2: hosts and the most important cricket country in the world,
Speaker 2: But regardless, is.
Speaker 4: It just is it geopolitical? Is it just shit housery
Speaker 4: from India?
Speaker 2: India just refusing to go to Pakistan to play.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Sri Lanka, of course, just for the record,
Speaker 4: they don't give a shit about that because they didn't
Speaker 4: qualify for the Champions Trophy, because they came ninth in
Speaker 4: the World Cup, so they definitely don't care about the
Speaker 4: Champions Trophy.
Speaker 2: But we do, we do. And yeah, look it starts
Speaker 2: tonight in dan Buller before they go to Palakelly.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I am quite interested in this. I'm interested in seeing
Speaker 2: how some of these guys go in a format where
Speaker 2: they've got a little bit more time to express themselves.
Speaker 2: I think it's probably Mitchey obviously needs some runs. Yes,
Speaker 2: Will Young. It's funny, we were almost talking about him
Speaker 2: like the senior better and the squad at the moment,
Speaker 2: but you know, he's probably a fringe player at best.
Speaker 1: So this is are you talking in terms of following
Speaker 1: on from here for the Cheaampions Trophy? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So there's a lot of things that Will
Speaker 2: they need to sort out for the Champions Trophy, and
Speaker 2: this is this is the start.
Speaker 1: I sort of yeah, I sort of feel for Forward
Speaker 1: on the Well Young front. You know that he's kind
Speaker 1: of earned his place now and he deserves a bit
Speaker 1: of respect and a bit of support in terms of
Speaker 1: being kind of seen as a regular member of the
Speaker 1: side or am I being biased?
Speaker 4: I think you can be those two things. No, I
Speaker 4: think right, I think, Yeah, I feel like he's I agree.
Speaker 4: I think he's in that spot and he should be
Speaker 4: in the you know, ahead of the likes of Henry Nichols,
Speaker 4: barring what happens over the next few days. So Gladdy good.
Speaker 4: Good for him to be in there and under some pressure.
Speaker 4: Another guy to keep an eye on. Tim Robinson, who's
Speaker 4: sort of making noises about. You know, he's a contracted player,
Speaker 4: didn't do much in the t twenties. Is he then
Speaker 4: next Fanellen or is he not? We've mentioned Nathan Smith. Interesting,
Speaker 4: interesting to be watching him and he's tonight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, out of a targer, out of a targer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I was reading an article about him as a
Speaker 1: as a real prospect for the future. Got the most
Speaker 1: wickets in the first class last year, was that right? Yep, yep,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty nippy.
Speaker 2: When I played the season of county cricket. I think
Speaker 2: he might even be Omoru. Originally he might even be
Speaker 2: north Ochago. But yeah, I mean he's twenty six years old.
Speaker 2: Good age, good age, good age. Yet my only worry
Speaker 2: about Nathan Smith is just maybe a few kilometers short
Speaker 2: of what you need your start a bowling. He bowls,
Speaker 2: he's kind of a hit the deck hard guy. But
Speaker 2: I mean he's not tall like Jamison or Rourke. And yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know you've seen more of them, Paul. But
Speaker 2: does he have that kind of one forty two to
Speaker 2: one forty five in him?
Speaker 4: I think he does, But does he have it consistently
Speaker 4: or so I think as your point, yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's interesting there's a real trial in this
Speaker 4: series for that fourth Seema because you've got Duffy, who
Speaker 4: is maybe the incumbent with Sears out. Cougar Line's not
Speaker 4: in here, so you know, there's a bit of a
Speaker 4: duel here between a three way duel between Smith, Duffy
Speaker 4: and you know, arguably someone like Folks could come steaming
Speaker 4: through the middle if they decide to get a bit
Speaker 4: funky for this England Test series.
Speaker 3: But yeah, look, it's not it's not certain.
Speaker 4: The other thing that Jason, I think you'll agree is
Speaker 4: that it would be really good if Mark Chapman didn't
Speaker 4: drop any.
Speaker 2: Catches what is going on there?
Speaker 1: He Look, I think he's just got the YEPS man.
Speaker 1: It's just that classic because as we say, all that
Speaker 1: time ago where all the started for him, he's actually
Speaker 1: not a bad fieldsman. He moves nicely, yes, but I
Speaker 1: think it's just you know, it's like my passing at
Speaker 1: the moment. It's just all over the place. And I
Speaker 1: think he gets an anxiety attack when he sees the
Speaker 1: ball in the air coming towards him, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, he has a full blown panic attack.
Speaker 2: I think that is I think there is some something
Speaker 2: merit in that. Actually, I do think that when you've
Speaker 2: spilled a few, and my word is spilled a few,
Speaker 2: you do get to a point where you're out in
Speaker 2: the field and you're.
Speaker 1: Actually hoping it doesn't come near, and the ball.
Speaker 2: Doesn't come near. You'd be quite heavy to station yourself
Speaker 2: at third man and field a few grounders that go
Speaker 2: down to third man. But you don't you do know
Speaker 2: what anything in the year coming your way, And I
Speaker 2: reckon Chapman's at that point that testy that catchy dropped
Speaker 2: in Mumbai. Ah Man, that is just.
Speaker 1: Awful, I know. But also but also you know that
Speaker 1: that probably is a stot. Put me down at third man,
Speaker 1: and then there's a massive top edge as soon as
Speaker 1: you move there, and you know, and it's isn't it funny?
Speaker 1: How when shit isn't going well for you in any
Speaker 1: form of the game, you know, but particularly fielding. The
Speaker 1: ball suddenly starts following you around everywhere.
Speaker 3: It's so hard to hide. It's so hard to hide.
Speaker 1: Yes, sure.
Speaker 4: The other thing about this series coming up is that
Speaker 4: it's obviously going to be a real spin friendly track.
Speaker 4: And we're talking about, you know, trialing, running this trial
Speaker 4: for the fourth sema, and I don't think we're going
Speaker 4: to get a lot of pictures that are going to
Speaker 4: be particularly conducive to pay some who we've got. We've
Speaker 4: got sat in Embrace, Will Phillips and Sodi and Jase.
Speaker 4: I think you've got the list of Shri Lankan spinners there.
Speaker 1: Look at them the center of the match person himself
Speaker 1: for those of you that can't see him. So do Paul,
Speaker 1: how would they look at? Do you know? Well a
Speaker 1: Lagi uh Commendo, Mendes, tariff Aslanka and do Himantha well done?
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know much about them, but let's
Speaker 1: assume they'll be pretty handy with the ball in hand.
Speaker 4: Well, the good news, Jason is that huss is not
Speaker 4: there because his little chubby hamstring didn't hold up during
Speaker 4: the t twenty, so he won't be there. And I'm
Speaker 4: pretty sure the last block you mentioned is the guy
Speaker 4: that came in from duchan Amantha, another legie. So going
Speaker 4: to be plenty of intrigue at the Sri Lankan Bowl increase.
Speaker 1: Hey, now, let's talk about this this upcoming Test series.
Speaker 1: And I've just read this here on the notes, all
Speaker 1: but a sellout across the three tests. How good? With
Speaker 1: the question asked, why is that? I just think Dylan
Speaker 1: clear with it that England is always England is always
Speaker 1: a very popular prospect for fans of cricket when they
Speaker 1: come to New Zealand. It doesn't surprise me at all
Speaker 1: that that's the case, particularly given of course we're on
Speaker 1: this high after India. People are just into it.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: They bring a big traveling support with them. Yes, I
Speaker 2: mean the Barmai Army love coming to New Zealand.
Speaker 3: Two percent of the tickets have been sold off shore.
Speaker 1: Yeah good.
Speaker 2: And it also is the McCallum Stokes thing, Yes, that
Speaker 2: New Zealand connection. I think you know, there's seems to
Speaker 2: be these things go in cycles, right, and there's a
Speaker 2: real pushback on the whole baseball term now and and
Speaker 2: but you still can't deny that they play a brand
Speaker 2: of cricket that's pretty intoxicating and you want to be
Speaker 2: there to watch it. And it also is not that
Speaker 2: long ago and it's still quite fresh in our memories
Speaker 2: that Test from the Basin, the follow on Test, that
Speaker 2: New Zealand one, and it's just like, yeah, I want
Speaker 2: to be part of this. I mean, the only thing
Speaker 2: I have a little bit of concern about is Test
Speaker 2: in christ Stretch in November still can be a bit
Speaker 2: nippy down there that time of year. But apart from that,
Speaker 2: it's just yeah, get me there. Just want to be
Speaker 2: part of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm absolutely proffing about it. Pul Ford, it's so good.
Speaker 4: Yeah I am as well, of course, but you know,
Speaker 4: as say, I'm back in full optimist mode.
Speaker 3: Of course I am.
Speaker 4: But I think the other thing is that the Black
Speaker 4: Cats have earned the right of, you know, just be
Speaker 4: selling out these three grounds. You know that what they
Speaker 4: did in India is extraordinary. I do think people will
Speaker 4: want to come out and salute that. There hasn't really
Speaker 4: been an opportunity to do that as they've gone straight
Speaker 4: on to Sri Lanka. And the other thing is for
Speaker 4: cricket nerds like us, But there's a massive hole in
Speaker 4: the calendar after this. I mean basically, you know, no
Speaker 4: cricket sort of no long form cricket tool is it
Speaker 4: next year? I think it's bloody ages. Wait and I
Speaker 4: think only next summer. It's only the West Indies as well,
Speaker 4: so you know there's a real gap. And of course,
Speaker 4: and for real nerds, they will be thinking about the
Speaker 4: maths of the World Test Championship and wanting to help
Speaker 4: New Zealand get up and potentially potentially qualify for that
Speaker 4: final next year at Lord's in June.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's just going to be an absolute cracker.
Speaker 1: I'll be glued to the TV, much to my wife's
Speaker 1: chagrin and.
Speaker 2: Real shame of it. As Paul mentioned there is Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just so barren after this series. Yes, yeah, just
Speaker 2: make the most of this Test series, hold on to it,
Speaker 2: cuddle it, because after that, unless we make that final
Speaker 2: at Lord's in June, I think it is it's a
Speaker 2: long time before we're getting more five day cricket. Yeah, which,
Speaker 2: actually I mean it's just a noise the shit out.
Speaker 1: Yes, samee Man and t You're gonna have your tea too,
Speaker 1: and he's even your one days. Give me test cricket
Speaker 1: any day of the week, any day of the week.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what we're gonna do. I're gonna
Speaker 1: have a little break here and come back very shortly.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to this b YC podcast. So Pakistan beat
Speaker 1: Australia in Australia. I loved it. I loved it. Australia
Speaker 1: of course, winning the first one day, just just but
Speaker 1: the Australians really under the pump and not handling pace
Speaker 1: at all. Ralph was just next level.
Speaker 2: How good what a great cricketer is to watch because
Speaker 2: you watch them run up sometimes doesn't look like he
Speaker 2: knows what has run up is. He's got these funny
Speaker 2: little paces. He seems to take off from different spots.
Speaker 2: A couple of the deliveries he bowled, his front foot
Speaker 2: was only just ahead of the line where the stumps
Speaker 2: are at like no danger of him doing Muhammad Ama
Speaker 2: type nobles in that game, but just real pace, like fire.
Speaker 2: And there's nothing better than watching quick bowlers on top
Speaker 2: of the game in places like Perth. Yeah, I watched
Speaker 2: the entirety of that game, the decider in Perth in
Speaker 2: Pakistan just so much better than Australia. It was. It
Speaker 2: was actually quite weird watching it. It was and you
Speaker 2: they're under fire Australia, They're getting.
Speaker 1: It, and so they should be because asking themselves and
Speaker 1: you know, was it Australia alb first and foremost pull
Speaker 1: forward and just specifically on that final game, which was
Speaker 1: the deciding game, a very very under power Australian side.
Speaker 1: And was that a specific decision of Australian cricket to
Speaker 1: rest their key players for that match, because my assumption
Speaker 1: is that that was always what they were planning to do,
Speaker 1: but they would have thought that they would have been
Speaker 1: too nill ahead by then.
Speaker 4: I reckon that. I agree one hundred percent, Jase. I
Speaker 4: reckon that was absolutely the script. And then things went
Speaker 4: off piece in that second game, very nearly went off
Speaker 4: piece in the first and still have mentioned, but yes,
Speaker 4: Australia are always going to going to rest their red ball
Speaker 4: players from these games. Basically it was sort of an
Speaker 4: optional to play, so I think Cummens played the Pat
Speaker 4: Cummins played the first game. But yeah, look it was
Speaker 4: it felt like a mismatch. That's exactly right, and I
Speaker 4: love some of the headlines. You know, Pakistan punished disengaged
Speaker 4: Australia for their first series winning for twenty and twenty
Speaker 4: two years.
Speaker 3: I love that. Some sensational pace bowling. I mean you
Speaker 3: mentioned Harris Ralph.
Speaker 4: I mean the last time we saw him, I think
Speaker 4: he was getting in a punch up at the TEA
Speaker 4: twenty World Cup and then he's just ferocious. Shane Shah
Speaker 4: Fredi and Nasim Shah was sensational and I absolutely love
Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw this, but Cooper Connley,
Speaker 4: the great White Hope, this twenty one year old slogger,
Speaker 4: the surfy looking kid and the Pakistan fast body you've
Speaker 4: never heard of. Muhammad has Nae broke his hand so
Speaker 4: see you later. That probably him out for a few weeks.
Speaker 4: Absolutely fantastic from from Pakistan. Yeah, got a real sense
Speaker 4: of joy out of that. I did love seeing Pat
Speaker 4: Cummins get into trouble as his wife I assume kind
Speaker 4: of not against as will, but probably.
Speaker 3: Surprised him by banging that photo up on Instagram.
Speaker 4: Literally as the Australians were losing, which really does wind
Speaker 4: everyone up.
Speaker 3: But you know, you're just it was the decider.
Speaker 4: You're absolutely right, I think they've stuffed up here and
Speaker 4: it's it just plays into that narrative that Pat Cummins
Speaker 4: and the Australians are out of touch with Heartland Australia.
Speaker 1: It's great to see, yeah, I And you used a
Speaker 1: word there in one of the headlines which I watch
Speaker 1: was the sort of impression that I got, which was
Speaker 1: disengaged and arrogant. And you know, but what the interesting thing,
Speaker 1: as it always is with Pakistan, is my god, they've
Speaker 1: got talent. Their pace attack, their pace attack is next level.
Speaker 1: And I was like, why are these guys so damn erratic?
Speaker 1: I mean, it must be infuriating for the coaches when
Speaker 1: you've got that kind of talent that they're so up
Speaker 1: and down. But it kind of turned around with that
Speaker 1: Test series against England, didn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 2: But the problem was is the problem is the test
Speaker 2: services they put them on in Pakistan. Yes, they get
Speaker 2: really worried about the opposition strengths. So the first Test,
Speaker 2: I can't remember if it was Raoul Pindi against England,
Speaker 2: it was an absolutely flat track and Shahin Sharaffredi got
Speaker 2: blitzed by basball, which you're not allowed to call it now.
Speaker 2: And so they lose. In Pakistan, there is no patience.
Speaker 2: They just lose patients straight away. So they've been him,
Speaker 2: they've been a Nasim Shah clearly is a really good player,
Speaker 2: gutsy player, but not those two were gone and instead
Speaker 2: they give them absolute bunts and burner tracks. They come
Speaker 2: back into that series through their spinners and win it.
Speaker 2: But then you go to a place like Australia which
Speaker 2: just suits them down to the ground and you realize
Speaker 2: how good they can be.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, that's that.
Speaker 2: Is their problem, I think is the patience of their
Speaker 2: selectors at home and actually giving these guys some decent
Speaker 2: services onto which to display their full pallid of skills.
Speaker 2: Because man, that that four prong pace attack the other day. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I barely even heard of that guy has name, but yes,
Speaker 2: I mean either he broke Connelly's hand, he was whizzing
Speaker 2: it over heads. He was he looked highly entertaining.
Speaker 4: And they had they bowl, they had they bowled this
Speaker 4: many have spin zero. Yeah, it's just the bull blitz
Speaker 4: And am I.
Speaker 1: Right in saying that. Jason Gillespie or is it Jason
Speaker 1: Gillespie he's the coach or he's the bowling coach.
Speaker 2: He's the coach at the moment, and Gary Kirston was
Speaker 2: the director of cricket. But Gary Kirston walked out when
Speaker 2: they suddenly stripped him and Gillespie of any selectorial powers.
Speaker 2: I think that's how it went. Yes, so yeah, and
Speaker 2: it's just off the field, it's just chaos and that
Speaker 2: will never change.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I remember Gillespie this week too, sorry about He actually
Speaker 4: came out in the aftermath of the series win and said,
Speaker 4: you know, the Australians were disengaged and what he means
Speaker 4: by he means the Australian public, he means the Australian players,
Speaker 4: and he stood the Cricket Australia's marketing. It was no
Speaker 4: promotion of this series that he saw. Every poster, every billboard,
Speaker 4: every social media post that he saw was for border
Speaker 4: Gavascar for the Australia Indian Cricket Series, which really pissed
Speaker 4: the Pakistani's off.
Speaker 3: And obviously how they played better.
Speaker 1: And it isn't fascinating because we were talking about, you
Speaker 1: know that maybe INDIAD you know, didn't have their eye
Speaker 1: on the ball when it came to playing us, so
Speaker 1: that they too were possibly guilty of looking ahead to
Speaker 1: that tour of Australia. Australia are guilty of the same thing,
Speaker 1: and as a result of that, both sides in this
Speaker 1: huge upcoming series now look like idiots because they've been
Speaker 1: given a hiding by the teams that they've played previous
Speaker 1: to the series.
Speaker 2: Isn't that great?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I love it. I love it. Don't get me wrong, man.
Speaker 2: We're reveler Lions fighting back against the Dark Empire.
Speaker 1: Yeah good.
Speaker 4: We need to factor this into our scheduling. We need
Speaker 4: to look at when all of the headline big dog
Speaker 4: series are and just sneak in there and play them
Speaker 4: just before they guess, before they get there, because I
Speaker 4: feel like we did this to England ahead of the
Speaker 4: Ashes as well. We just sort of snuck in there
Speaker 4: with a slightly ramshekel team and gave them a touch
Speaker 4: up just before the Ashes in England last time around.
Speaker 1: Two, you know. Having said that, actually I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to that series in the Australia. Oh just as a
Speaker 1: side note here, feel as I discovered on Sky which
Speaker 1: I've been enjoying quite a lot actually the sort of
Speaker 1: domestic Australian cricket, you know, and I've been watching the Indie, RA,
Speaker 1: Australia or A tests. Yeah, that's you know, for cricket fans,
Speaker 1: it's quite nice to sort of stumble upon that quality
Speaker 1: of cricket pretty good.
Speaker 2: Well again, that's been quite controversial in Australia because of
Speaker 2: those India AA, Australia A essentially became a bat off
Speaker 2: for the one remaining opening spot, yes in the Australian
Speaker 2: team to partner Usman Kwaja and they ended up giving
Speaker 2: it to the guy who doesn't open South of South
Speaker 2: Australian middle order player Nathan McSweeney.
Speaker 1: And he was a skipper, wasn't he. Oh yeah, was
Speaker 1: he the skipper?
Speaker 2: He did skipper And yeah, you got people. I think
Speaker 2: it's a former Australian payer whose name just as Casey
Speaker 2: at the moment just come out and said they're just guessing.
Speaker 2: It's just complete guesswork. They've got no idea what they're doing. Oh.
Speaker 2: I was Joe Burns, the former Queensland opener who I
Speaker 2: think he scored big runs against New Zealand and McCallum's
Speaker 2: last series as skipper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll tell you one of the things, genuinely
Speaker 1: as a cricket lover that I am looking forward to
Speaker 1: us seeing how jazz well goes over there for Australia,
Speaker 1: because he's great to watch and he he, he just
Speaker 1: gives it a bash, all right. Our own domestic game,
Speaker 1: the Plunket Shield CD versus Otago and Napier Otago two
Speaker 1: O three Max two eighty five Randall four for twenty
Speaker 1: one and three for two CD three fifty nine for
Speaker 1: nine d Kleaver one fifty one night out Muller three
Speaker 1: for fifty two.
Speaker 2: Well, actually they said vace a little bit since then
Speaker 2: Otago at the time of reading, and now one O
Speaker 2: six for eight in their second inning is crashing towards
Speaker 2: a heavy defeat against the mighty CD. But the curious
Speaker 2: thing about that being three for two overnight last night
Speaker 2: was the fact they sent two night watchmen out to
Speaker 2: the crease. Because the first night watchman, who I think
Speaker 2: was Travis Muller, did they have the curious incident of
Speaker 2: being caught on the boundary, which is.
Speaker 1: Not really as a night watchman, that's not your job
Speaker 1: to have a tonk are your boys pull forward? I
Speaker 1: don't know if you got down to watch any of this.
Speaker 1: Wellington versus Auckland, Auckland won eighty four, Bevan Jacobs seventy five,
Speaker 1: Logan Van beat five for fifty three and one seventy
Speaker 1: one for six. Will o'donald fifty two not out Wellington
Speaker 1: two to seventy, Van beat one oh one. Peter old Wife,
Speaker 1: I feel like that's some sort of set up there,
Speaker 1: and Jordan seventy five and Jordan Sussex four for fifty.
Speaker 3: Paul did see it out in the window.
Speaker 4: Regendravendra, Devin Conway and Tom Blundell all playing in that game,
Speaker 4: along with Finn Allen. And yeah, that's advanced a little
Speaker 4: bit as well. Auckland actually managed to rustle up three
Speaker 4: hundred and seventeen. So I've done the quick math. It
Speaker 4: looks like Wellington need about two hundred and thirty to
Speaker 4: win that one. They're currently started like an absolute sack
Speaker 4: of shit. They're one for one and both Batsman at
Speaker 4: the crease zero not out with Retch and Revenger and
Speaker 4: next Devin Conways and so yeah, look out, it could
Speaker 4: be quite quite a thriller. I might have to check
Speaker 4: my annual leave balance for this afternoon.
Speaker 2: So that's there was a nice little double of seventy
Speaker 2: seventy five and seventy nine from I think it's Bevan
Speaker 2: John Jacobs, who's an interesting cricketer himself.
Speaker 4: So that's right, and it's been pretty that game though.
Speaker 4: We should give Logan van Bekers shout out betting. I
Speaker 4: think at number eight scored one hundred and a five
Speaker 4: wicket bag. Pretty sensational from him to resurrect that first
Speaker 4: innings of Wellington.
Speaker 1: Hey, just there's a very quick sideline here, fin allen.
Speaker 2: Ah, Now, let me tell you about his little innings
Speaker 2: opening the batting and the I think he failed in
Speaker 2: the first deck, open the batting and the second deck.
Speaker 2: He might even be skipper. Yeah, Paul might have to
Speaker 2: go to the interweb while I'm relating this little tale.
Speaker 3: But solely I think is the skipper.
Speaker 2: Solely is the skipper, right, So he was opening with
Speaker 2: Solier and he scored forty nine in the second ins.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that forty nine was made up of
Speaker 2: ten fours and one six. Wow, that's correct, And he
Speaker 2: went out having a wild swipe across the line.
Speaker 1: That was good. Good Canterbury versus Indiant Hagley Canterbury three
Speaker 1: sixty one for nine Chad Bows one oh seven, Matt
Speaker 1: Boyle fifty nine, Christian Clark four for eighty three in
Speaker 1: D two ninety one for eight, San Deep, Patawel fifty
Speaker 1: six and bred Hampton fifty. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, Indy actually managed to get their way up to
Speaker 2: five point fifty two for nine declared, so they did
Speaker 2: really well. I'm guessing that must mean that Wags scored
Speaker 2: some runs. But what a start to the season for
Speaker 2: Chad Bows. He scored that record setting double ton in
Speaker 2: the four Trophy, scored a ton in the first round
Speaker 2: of the Plunket Shield, so yeah, all power to him.
Speaker 2: He kind of feels like a name that's was very
Speaker 2: briefly in New Zealand Lights but as all disappeared out
Speaker 2: of it. But perhaps there will be the second coming
Speaker 2: of Chad Bows made.
Speaker 3: Them thirty three and twenty six in that match.
Speaker 1: Right, great stuff. Now I will take another short break here.
Speaker 1: When we come back, it'll be Dylan Cleavers. Who am I?
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the BYC And now it's time for
Speaker 1: Dylan Cleavers. Who am I? It's Dylan Cleavers, who am I?
Speaker 2: Yeah, last week we had several correct answers. I thought
Speaker 2: I made the clues particularly cryptic, but people recognize that
Speaker 2: it was in fact, Craig Spearman. A couple of good
Speaker 2: little bits of correspondence actually from Matt Parker wrote, Hey guys,
Speaker 2: I believe the answer is Craig Spearman. I moved to
Speaker 2: London to work in banking around the same time as his.
Speaker 2: As him, I grew up as a wisty, although not
Speaker 2: quite as big as whisty as where he went to school.
Speaker 2: I think he were to Kelston Boys. I always thought
Speaker 2: that Craig Spearman was in my commercial law tutorial once
Speaker 2: at Auckland Union nineteen ninety three. Had heard of him
Speaker 2: listen to the shell trophy, just looked it up and
Speaker 2: he went to Massy. So now that whole story is
Speaker 2: ruined all the best man.
Speaker 1: Sorry about that.
Speaker 2: And Peter Douglas wrote, Craig Mary Spearman, tough clues. I
Speaker 2: just think about these things a lot. I understand, Peter,
Speaker 2: so do I. I seem to record he had three
Speaker 2: hundred plus for Gloucestershire, which broke the county record held
Speaker 2: by a reasonable player named W. G. Grace. Mind blowing
Speaker 2: stuff for any black Cat fan left pulling their hair
Speaker 2: out at his lovely but inconsequential twenties and thirties in
Speaker 2: the late nineties. Keep up the great work. That is correct.
Speaker 1: He was such an exasperating player, wasn't he? Man? And
Speaker 1: he's right lovely twenties and thirties. Ah, he had so
Speaker 1: much talent, Craig Spearman.
Speaker 2: He looked like he could see your past.
Speaker 4: Yes, destructive, absolutely destructive batsman on his day. That three
Speaker 4: hundred and forty one that he got for Gloucestershire unbelievable.
Speaker 4: He's an absolute legend in there at that county, isn't he.
Speaker 4: And the other thing about him quite a sort of
Speaker 4: quite a sad story. Actually, he was a compulsive gambler
Speaker 4: and has been a real front man for that. I
Speaker 4: think we might have talked about that that before, but yeah,
Speaker 4: quite quite sad. And he genuinely talks about, you know,
Speaker 4: the time that he can pinpoint when it moved from
Speaker 4: being recreational gambling to problem gambling.
Speaker 3: And then Black Captain stopped over.
Speaker 4: I think it was in Ken's on the way to
Speaker 4: a tour in India or Pakistan or off to the
Speaker 4: sub continent, and he lost an absolute ship ton of money,
Speaker 4: won it all back, but realized realized that he had
Speaker 4: had a real problem and yeah that kind of he
Speaker 4: had this. I think it was his wife got really sick,
Speaker 4: and yeah there was also there's all sorts of really
Speaker 4: difficult stuff that he's had to encounter. So yeah, quite
Speaker 4: an interesting character for sure.
Speaker 1: All Right, Dylan hit us mate.
Speaker 2: All Right, this one's a bit of a sad one,
Speaker 2: ag but here we go.
Speaker 1: Who am I?
Speaker 2: I made my first class debut while still at school,
Speaker 2: with a small curiosity being that it wasn't even one
Speaker 2: of the right schools inverted commas that dominated the christ
Speaker 2: Church cricket scene. I was a man of notable firsts,
Speaker 2: including scoring my one and only first class century in
Speaker 2: less than an hour against Otago. Think about that, a
Speaker 2: century in fifty three minutes. And that same game I
Speaker 2: also dismissed the yappy little wicket keeper for a golden
Speaker 2: deck and later in the match for two. I'm not
Speaker 2: surprised Ted Henry rose to prominence in the Winter Game instead.
Speaker 2: Another first was being banned for a Test for a
Speaker 2: relatively arcane transgression. But my most notable moment in another
Speaker 2: first came in I dismissed Phil Sharp LBW for forty
Speaker 2: eight at the Oval. Though if I gave you any
Speaker 2: more details, i'd be giving the game away. I was
Speaker 2: known as the workingman's hero for the way I played
Speaker 2: the game, and that was more to do with my
Speaker 2: mighty six hitting than anything else. But fast, occasionally hostile
Speaker 2: bowling was my raison datre. Unfortunately, life was not kind
Speaker 2: to me once I left the sport. Couple of failed
Speaker 2: marriages it was one thing, failed attempts as a public
Speaker 2: in another, but worst of all was a family tragedy
Speaker 2: that haunted me until my final morbidly obese breath. Who
Speaker 2: am I? Hmm, well, you just gave the universe. It
Speaker 2: was signal of an eyebrow raise, which in the case
Speaker 2: that I think you know it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's quite a great another quite slightly grim story. DC,
Speaker 3: it's a good good clothes, very good clothes, I thought.
Speaker 1: Very good. With that in mind, let's have Paul Ford's
Speaker 1: news or Ruse.
Speaker 3: Jace. You're going to be bloody excited about the fact.
Speaker 4: There's a new five team T twenty tournament called the
Speaker 4: Global Super League launching in Guyana in late November, featuring
Speaker 4: teams from five different countries, sanctioned by the by Cricket
Speaker 4: West Indies and fully supported by the state government. Was
Speaker 4: the National Government Guyana anyway, and prize money US a
Speaker 4: million dollars. It's going to feature the Amazon Warriors and
Speaker 4: a team from Cricket Victoria, the lahau Wilanders, Hampshire Cricket
Speaker 4: Club and Rangper Riders from Bangladesh and none other than
Speaker 4: Cory Anderson will be captaining the Cricket Victoria team number two.
Speaker 3: The White Fans opening.
Speaker 4: Game of the summer against Australia at the Basin Reserve
Speaker 4: will be gold coin entry as New Zealand Cricket looks
Speaker 4: to keep up the momentum behind the newly crowned icc
Speaker 4: T twenty World champions Legends. The first ODII of the
Speaker 4: Rose Bowl Series is on Thursday December the nineteenth, of course,
Speaker 4: another piece of grim news and New Zealand haven't won
Speaker 4: that for twenty five years. New Zealand Cricket said the
Speaker 4: White Fans are a team. The New Zealand public are
Speaker 4: really embracing at present and we're determined to make the
Speaker 4: most of it. They've seen large crowns, crowds of excited
Speaker 4: fans turning up and down the country during the trophy
Speaker 4: tour and they need the supporters they get into this
Speaker 4: Crunch series against the dirty, filthy, cheating Australians.
Speaker 3: And number three West Indies fastball Alzari Joseph has been
Speaker 3: suspended for two matches by Cricket West Indy's over a
Speaker 3: very public disagreement with captain Shy Hope of a field
Speaker 3: placements during an ODII against England this week, which the
Speaker 3: West Indies won. Ironically, Joseph and Hope engaged in a
Speaker 3: lengthy argument for Joseph's over and he had to be
Speaker 3: urged by the umpires to resume play after a ball
Speaker 3: was played away on the off side During the over.
Speaker 4: Joseph remonstrated with Hope. When the over ended, he just
Speaker 4: simply walked off the field.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable. Cricket West Indies said.
Speaker 4: In a statement that his conduct fell short of their
Speaker 4: standards of professionalism. Joseph, to be fair, also apologized and said,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: My passion got the best of me.
Speaker 1: I think it's you'll tend to go first.
Speaker 2: Actually, d C had a lot of luck of this lately.
Speaker 1: No, you mean I've been giving luck.
Speaker 3: It's not about luck.
Speaker 2: So that Western he's one is dead right. I watched that.
Speaker 2: That was hilarious, that that was insane. I don't know
Speaker 2: anything about that Global Super League. It just sounds bizarre.
Speaker 2: Why did they pick those five teams to go and
Speaker 2: play in Guyana. But I'm going to go with the
Speaker 2: White Fans because I believe that it's not even a
Speaker 2: gold coin entry. I just believe it's just free. That's
Speaker 2: what I was marketed as. Anyway, in the email, I
Speaker 2: go from New Zealand Cricket free entry.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go for the first option because it
Speaker 1: sounds like a hideous disgrace of a tournament, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to say the prize money is incorrect.
Speaker 4: Like the rage and the fury in your belly chase.
Speaker 4: But Dylan Clever's going to take this one home. That
Speaker 4: is exactly right.
Speaker 3: As free entry to the White Fans game at you,
Speaker 3: I'd be.
Speaker 1: Back, knew whatever, whatever, All right now, I believe now,
Speaker 1: Dylan Cleaver, you're going to give us a book review
Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty four New Zealand Cricket Almanac.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that wone work on a podcast so well. But
Speaker 2: I'm holding it up now so my fellow pundits and
Speaker 2: panelists can see the cover. It is. I've remiss of
Speaker 2: this not to do it earlier actually, because it's always
Speaker 2: a it's always a great day for me when the
Speaker 2: book drops through into my letterbox from the publishers.
Speaker 4: Do you get it for free or do you pay
Speaker 4: fifty five dollars like the riff Raft.
Speaker 2: I must I get it for free?
Speaker 3: No, wonder you look to it, bugger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's always immaculately presented. This time Retch
Speaker 2: and Revenger is on the cover after he's scored his
Speaker 2: double ton against South Africa. I think that's fair enough.
Speaker 1: Can I just ask you a question. I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: just watching you holding that book, Dylan, and I can
Speaker 1: see it's like I used to be when I was
Speaker 1: a little kid with brand new stationery. I can see
Speaker 1: the glee and the joy. Do you get quite excited
Speaker 1: when do you handle new books? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I smell them, Yes, good. I don't know what I
Speaker 2: expect them to smell like, but I'm always.
Speaker 1: Pleased newly printed.
Speaker 2: Newly printed smell. And just a couple of points of
Speaker 2: interest in it. As the players of the year were
Speaker 2: ritching Revendra and Kane Williamson, which I don't think you
Speaker 2: can argue about. They both had incredible seasons, but the
Speaker 2: promising players Zach Folks, Will O'Rourke and Gareth Severin, and
Speaker 2: I think they've already probably been proved pretty accurate. Accurate
Speaker 2: on folks in willow'rourke, it might take Gareth Severin a
Speaker 2: little bit longer to make that step up. But there
Speaker 2: was one other thing that like Francis Payne and Ian
Speaker 2: Smith who compile this just legends in their field. And
Speaker 2: I didn't realize this, This is this little factoid, yes,
Speaker 2: escaped me. But with those wins in India, with Tim
Speaker 2: Sowdy playing two tests that one, he is now the
Speaker 2: most successful test cricketer in New Zealand history. Wow, did
Speaker 2: you realize that? No, he now has.
Speaker 4: I didn't know either that. That's a bloody good record
Speaker 4: to have, isn't it. I've won Imagine going to the
Speaker 4: pub and going I've won more Test matches for New
Speaker 4: Zealand than anyone else in the history of the game.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's good, that's a good record.
Speaker 2: It's amazing. So he went past Ross Taylor. He is
Speaker 2: now forty six. Ross Taylor as forty four. Cain Williamson,
Speaker 2: who lester remind you did not play in any of
Speaker 2: the three tests and is stuck on forty three, but
Speaker 2: I suspect that he will eventually pass both Sauvi and Taylor.
Speaker 1: How long does Cain go for?
Speaker 2: Two more years? Reckon?
Speaker 1: Two more?
Speaker 2: Maybe three? I think he might do the next Wiltis
Speaker 2: Championship cycle and that might be it for him. I
Speaker 2: don't know, I've got no that's just speculations.
Speaker 1: He's really struggled with injury. He seems to be under
Speaker 1: the gun a lot these days.
Speaker 4: I reckon, I reckon it could be the end of
Speaker 4: this England series?
Speaker 2: Do you reckon? I reckon it could be for Suvi.
Speaker 2: I honestly think this summer might be Soudy's last, But
Speaker 2: well it might. The choice might not be his, to
Speaker 2: be fair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, that's a grim thought, Yeah, isn't it?
Speaker 1: Pull forwards? Cricket violence corners, cricket violence corner gun.
Speaker 4: A man's been assaulted in an apparent road rage incident
Speaker 4: in high Wickham Valley. Police have launch an appeal for
Speaker 4: witnesses following the assault. When two men got out of
Speaker 4: a dark colored carn Air traffic lights on doors Hill Lane.
Speaker 4: They proceeded to use homophobic language towards the victim, A
Speaker 4: man in his forties before assaulting him with a cricket bat.
Speaker 4: The victims suffered injuries which required hospital treatment, but he's
Speaker 4: since been discharged. Officers are appealing for witnesses and footage
Speaker 4: to the incident. The maker's name of the bat was
Speaker 4: unable to be seen in security footage. I know because
Speaker 4: I locked. The driver of the car is described vaguely
Speaker 4: as thus mixed heritage, in his early thirties and around
Speaker 4: six feet tall. That would cover about seventy percent of
Speaker 4: the people in that area.
Speaker 3: I'd suggest, how.
Speaker 2: Am they know his mixed heritage for what has mixed me?
Speaker 2: He could be just heritage. What they're saying is he's
Speaker 2: not classically Anglo Saxon, aren't they.
Speaker 1: That's what they're saying. Hey, you know to your correspondence,
Speaker 1: this is from Jack, and he writes, hey, guys, love
Speaker 1: your work may need some deeper analysis here, but I'd
Speaker 1: like to draw attention to a wider member of the
Speaker 1: black Caps team that seems to have an interesting knack
Speaker 1: for winning. Mike Sandor, the current team manager. He joined
Speaker 1: the black Caps at the start of the twenty eleven
Speaker 1: twenty twelve summer and finished up early twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: quite clearly the meat and bones of our golden era.
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, right when the black Caps performances
Speaker 1: started to dip, he took up a CEO position at
Speaker 1: Taranaki Rugby, this being the region he grew up in.
Speaker 1: During the two years he was in this position, the
Speaker 1: Taranaki Bulls won the provisional title in twenty twenty three
Speaker 1: and had a very good win record in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: might I add, finishing with the great Ranfordy Shield. He
Speaker 1: then joins the black Caps again in twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: for right before the greatest Test series in New Zealand
Speaker 1: cricket history. Coincidence or is there something a bit more
Speaker 1: at foot here? Whatever it is, I hope his presence
Speaker 1: brings plenty more victories in the future.
Speaker 2: Dylan Cleaver, Yeah, there's a bit of a spell check
Speaker 2: or what is it, what's it called autocorrect issue? There?
Speaker 2: It was the provincial title rather than the provisional title.
Speaker 2: But ah right, Yeah. As a keen man of the
Speaker 2: Taraniki as well, I have followed Mike Sanders progress very
Speaker 2: closely and there is something quite freaky actually about that.
Speaker 2: I wonder what they had to do to convince him
Speaker 2: to come back.
Speaker 4: I yeah, he does seem like a bit of a
Speaker 4: lucky charm, but I think that massively sort of undervalues
Speaker 4: his contribution. I think the role that he's come back to,
Speaker 4: as I understand it without getting into sort of page
Speaker 4: seven of the job description, but I think it's much
Speaker 4: more focused on that broader performance of the of the team,
Speaker 4: and so looking after the crew that managed the performance
Speaker 4: of the team, rather than just the sort of logistics
Speaker 4: and where the suitcases are going and the admin and
Speaker 4: how many people want bacon with their eggs and all
Speaker 4: of that kind of stuff and all the cricket diplomacy.
Speaker 4: I think it's a yet very much kind of in
Speaker 4: the thick of the action with the team, which is
Speaker 4: fantastic in terms of that question though DC.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've got absolutely no idea.
Speaker 4: But it does seem a curious move to sort of
Speaker 4: come out and say, yep, really great, can't wait to
Speaker 4: go home? Be great to get rid of all of
Speaker 4: the travel and all of that kind of stuff. He
Speaker 4: did go in there. It coincided with that Silver Lake
Speaker 4: money being handed down, and I do wonder whether some
Speaker 4: of the shenanigans that have created a lot of headlines
Speaker 4: and a lot of anks and rugby circles. He maybe
Speaker 4: just was there for the taking for New Zealand cricket
Speaker 4: and bloody good on them forgetting them, I'd.
Speaker 1: Say, great Steven, terms of your correspondence, pulled forward, What
Speaker 1: do they need to do?
Speaker 4: Flick as an email to b YC at Beije Brigade
Speaker 4: dot code on end ed will slide into the DMS
Speaker 4: of the alternative commentary collective All the Beige Brigade on
Speaker 4: Instagram or Facebook. Keep it to a sort of one
Speaker 4: hundred words or thereabouts, just to so we can screenshot
Speaker 4: it into our WhatsApp chat and bring it up to
Speaker 4: up to the mixer each week.
Speaker 1: Great stuff. Hey well thanks for taking the time to
Speaker 1: listen to this podcast telling your mates about it. Why
Speaker 1: don't you and we will be back of course, same time,
Speaker 1: same place next week. Till then, see you later.