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Speaker 1: Live from the ex Board Bear Garden Studios. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to the BYC where we're still basking on the glow

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Speaker 1: of our series victory against India. With that in mind,

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Speaker 1: I must admit to finding it difficult getting aroused in

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Speaker 1: any way about the T twenty series against Sri Lanka. However,

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Speaker 1: there were some notable performances and it's also an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to blood new players as we look to identify the

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Speaker 1: next tier of Black Caps, and I feel more and

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Speaker 1: more Dylan Cleaver that T twenty is just a breathing

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Speaker 1: ground now. It's something where maybe selectors and so forth

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Speaker 1: of various countries just said as an opportunity to give

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Speaker 1: other players an opportunity, which suggests to me that they

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Speaker 1: don't really care immensely about it. It's just a training exercise.

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Speaker 1: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 2: Half and half? I think you're wrong. When it comes

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Speaker 2: to World Championships, I think they're sure. I think they

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Speaker 2: care very deeply about doing well at those. But in

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Speaker 2: terms of a non contextual bilateral T twenty series, I

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Speaker 2: think you're dead right that it is. Let's have a

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Speaker 2: look at this fuller. Let's have a look and see

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Speaker 2: how they go under the pressure of international cricket. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, one all, I think that's probably about as

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Speaker 2: good as you can hope for in that New Zealand

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Speaker 2: team that's shorn of most of it stars. Yes, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: and there were some intriguing little performances there from a

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And look, I'll be really honest with you, Paul Ford.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've talked a lot on this podcast about,

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Speaker 1: I'm all for giving players an opportunity, but holy how

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Speaker 1: I mean to go from that series against India down

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Speaker 1: to a T twenty to you know, two program sort

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Speaker 1: of situation in T twenties against Sri Lanka. She's a

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Speaker 1: bit of a drop down, mate. It's hard to get

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Speaker 1: the old enthusiasm going.

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Speaker 3: It's ratchet scheduling, it really is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I was struggled with that too. I've got to

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Speaker 4: say though, I was. I've been thinking about this and

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Speaker 4: I got a real kick out of us winning that

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Speaker 3: I really did. And for me, it.

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Speaker 4: Was just a little bit of icing on the cake

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Speaker 3: And you know, I.

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Speaker 4: Guess that's just renewed my faith. You know, schlank are

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Speaker 4: that good. I think they're ranked number eight and teach

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Speaker 4: twenty cricket. But the fact of the matter is that

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Speaker 4: that Jazz pretty much the only senior player along with

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Speaker 4: just thought we were going to get thumped and then

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Speaker 4: we didn't. And so I guess the combination of those

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Speaker 4: two things is renewed my faith after I felt like

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Speaker 4: I lost it in that Sri Lankan test series. So

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Speaker 4: I hate to break it to you, fellas, but I'm

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Speaker 4: back in the frothy optimist Optimistic supporters club again Inurious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, you know, I don't want to denigrate

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Speaker 1: the table with regards to T twenty. I'm not a

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Speaker 2: I think the first thing we should say is that

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Speaker 2: Pala Kelly. Yep, Dan Buller wasn't conducive to massively entertaining No.

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Speaker 2: Twenty cricket. But I yeah, look, I have seen Bagger

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Speaker 3: I think it's just folks that folks.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's going to go where folks from now, But

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is a kid who's come out of

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Speaker 1: Come on, now, come on now the Yeah. Can I

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Speaker 2: Think, Yeah, I think he might actually be on the

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Speaker 2: centuries like big runs. And he's made a couple of

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Speaker 1: Us one of three there. Pull forward?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right?

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Speaker 4: Isn't it lovely conversation to be having? Not Oh my

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Speaker 4: It's much more about how how do we squeeze all

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Speaker 4: But these are good problems, right, these are bloody good

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I feel like you pull forward quite optimistic,

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Speaker 1: you know, because we were here talking about oh god,

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Speaker 1: And it's beginning to sort of emerge, which is exciting.

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Speaker 1: So we go to game two and then it's like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't see a lot of the New Zealand earnings.

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Speaker 1: Yes, drama, that was.

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Speaker 3: A weird one.

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Speaker 4: I actually got on such a nerd and I shouldn't

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Speaker 3: My understanding of the rules is that, yeah, you can.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, and you see a lot of poultry. One

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Speaker 2: But we do, we do. And yeah, look it starts

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Speaker 3: It's so hard to hide. It's so hard to hide.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm absolutely proffing about it. Pul Ford, it's so good.

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Speaker 4: But I think the other thing is that the Black

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Speaker 4: Cats have earned the right of, you know, just be

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Speaker 4: selling out these three grounds. You know that what they

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Speaker 4: did in India is extraordinary. I do think people will

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Speaker 4: want to come out and salute that. There hasn't really

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Speaker 4: been an opportunity to do that as they've gone straight

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Speaker 4: on to Sri Lanka. And the other thing is for

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Speaker 4: cricket nerds like us, But there's a massive hole in

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Speaker 4: the calendar after this. I mean basically, you know, no

445
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Speaker 4: cricket sort of no long form cricket tool is it

446
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Speaker 4: next year? I think it's bloody ages. Wait and I

447
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Speaker 4: think only next summer. It's only the West Indies as well,

448
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Speaker 4: so you know there's a real gap. And of course,

449
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Speaker 4: and for real nerds, they will be thinking about the

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Speaker 4: maths of the World Test Championship and wanting to help

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Speaker 4: New Zealand get up and potentially potentially qualify for that

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Speaker 4: final next year at Lord's in June.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's just going to be an absolute cracker.

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Speaker 1: I'll be glued to the TV, much to my wife's

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Speaker 1: chagrin and.

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Speaker 2: Real shame of it. As Paul mentioned there is Yeah,

457
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Speaker 2: it's just so barren after this series. Yes, yeah, just

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Speaker 2: make the most of this Test series, hold on to it,

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Speaker 2: cuddle it, because after that, unless we make that final

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Speaker 2: at Lord's in June, I think it is it's a

461
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Speaker 2: long time before we're getting more five day cricket. Yeah, which,

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Speaker 2: actually I mean it's just a noise the shit out.

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Speaker 1: Yes, samee Man and t You're gonna have your tea too,

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Speaker 1: and he's even your one days. Give me test cricket

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Speaker 1: any day of the week, any day of the week.

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Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what we're gonna do. I're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a little break here and come back very shortly.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to this b YC podcast. So Pakistan beat

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Speaker 1: Australia in Australia. I loved it. I loved it. Australia

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Speaker 1: of course, winning the first one day, just just but

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Speaker 1: the Australians really under the pump and not handling pace

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Speaker 1: at all. Ralph was just next level.

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Speaker 2: How good what a great cricketer is to watch because

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Speaker 2: you watch them run up sometimes doesn't look like he

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Speaker 2: knows what has run up is. He's got these funny

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Speaker 2: little paces. He seems to take off from different spots.

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Speaker 2: A couple of the deliveries he bowled, his front foot

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Speaker 2: was only just ahead of the line where the stumps

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Speaker 2: are at like no danger of him doing Muhammad Ama

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Speaker 2: type nobles in that game, but just real pace, like fire.

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Speaker 2: And there's nothing better than watching quick bowlers on top

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Speaker 2: of the game in places like Perth. Yeah, I watched

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Speaker 2: the entirety of that game, the decider in Perth in

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Speaker 2: Pakistan just so much better than Australia. It was. It

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Speaker 2: was actually quite weird watching it. It was and you

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Speaker 2: they're under fire Australia, They're getting.

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Speaker 1: It, and so they should be because asking themselves and

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Speaker 1: you know, was it Australia alb first and foremost pull

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Speaker 1: forward and just specifically on that final game, which was

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Speaker 1: the deciding game, a very very under power Australian side.

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Speaker 1: And was that a specific decision of Australian cricket to

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Speaker 1: rest their key players for that match, because my assumption

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Speaker 1: is that that was always what they were planning to do,

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Speaker 1: but they would have thought that they would have been

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Speaker 1: too nill ahead by then.

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Speaker 4: I reckon that. I agree one hundred percent, Jase. I

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Speaker 4: reckon that was absolutely the script. And then things went

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Speaker 4: off piece in that second game, very nearly went off

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Speaker 4: piece in the first and still have mentioned, but yes,

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Speaker 4: Australia are always going to going to rest their red ball

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Speaker 4: players from these games. Basically it was sort of an

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Speaker 4: optional to play, so I think Cummens played the Pat

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Speaker 4: Cummins played the first game. But yeah, look it was

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Speaker 4: it felt like a mismatch. That's exactly right, and I

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Speaker 4: love some of the headlines. You know, Pakistan punished disengaged

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Speaker 4: Australia for their first series winning for twenty and twenty

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Speaker 4: two years.

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Speaker 3: I love that. Some sensational pace bowling. I mean you

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Speaker 3: mentioned Harris Ralph.

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Speaker 4: I mean the last time we saw him, I think

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Speaker 4: he was getting in a punch up at the TEA

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Speaker 4: twenty World Cup and then he's just ferocious. Shane Shah

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Speaker 4: Fredi and Nasim Shah was sensational and I absolutely love

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw this, but Cooper Connley,

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Speaker 4: the great White Hope, this twenty one year old slogger,

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Speaker 4: the surfy looking kid and the Pakistan fast body you've

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Speaker 4: never heard of. Muhammad has Nae broke his hand so

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Speaker 4: see you later. That probably him out for a few weeks.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely fantastic from from Pakistan. Yeah, got a real sense

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Speaker 4: of joy out of that. I did love seeing Pat

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Speaker 4: Cummins get into trouble as his wife I assume kind

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Speaker 4: of not against as will, but probably.

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Speaker 3: Surprised him by banging that photo up on Instagram.

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Speaker 4: Literally as the Australians were losing, which really does wind

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Speaker 4: everyone up.

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Speaker 3: But you know, you're just it was the decider.

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Speaker 4: You're absolutely right, I think they've stuffed up here and

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Speaker 4: it's it just plays into that narrative that Pat Cummins

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Speaker 4: and the Australians are out of touch with Heartland Australia.

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Speaker 1: It's great to see, yeah, I And you used a

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Speaker 1: word there in one of the headlines which I watch

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Speaker 1: was the sort of impression that I got, which was

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Speaker 1: disengaged and arrogant. And you know, but what the interesting thing,

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Speaker 1: as it always is with Pakistan, is my god, they've

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Speaker 1: got talent. Their pace attack, their pace attack is next level.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, why are these guys so damn erratic?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it must be infuriating for the coaches when

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Speaker 1: you've got that kind of talent that they're so up

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Speaker 1: and down. But it kind of turned around with that

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Speaker 1: Test series against England, didn't it. Yeah?

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Speaker 2: But the problem was is the problem is the test

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Speaker 2: services they put them on in Pakistan. Yes, they get

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Speaker 2: really worried about the opposition strengths. So the first Test,

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Speaker 2: I can't remember if it was Raoul Pindi against England,

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Speaker 2: it was an absolutely flat track and Shahin Sharaffredi got

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Speaker 2: blitzed by basball, which you're not allowed to call it now.

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Speaker 2: And so they lose. In Pakistan, there is no patience.

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Speaker 2: They just lose patients straight away. So they've been him,

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Speaker 2: they've been a Nasim Shah clearly is a really good player,

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Speaker 2: gutsy player, but not those two were gone and instead

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Speaker 2: they give them absolute bunts and burner tracks. They come

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Speaker 2: back into that series through their spinners and win it.

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Speaker 2: But then you go to a place like Australia which

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Speaker 2: just suits them down to the ground and you realize

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Speaker 2: how good they can be.

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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, that's that.

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Speaker 2: Is their problem, I think is the patience of their

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Speaker 2: selectors at home and actually giving these guys some decent

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Speaker 2: services onto which to display their full pallid of skills.

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Speaker 2: Because man, that that four prong pace attack the other day. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I barely even heard of that guy has name, but yes,

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Speaker 2: I mean either he broke Connelly's hand, he was whizzing

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Speaker 2: it over heads. He was he looked highly entertaining.

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Speaker 4: And they had they bowl, they had they bowled this

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Speaker 4: many have spin zero. Yeah, it's just the bull blitz

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Speaker 4: And am I.

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Speaker 1: Right in saying that. Jason Gillespie or is it Jason

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Speaker 1: Gillespie he's the coach or he's the bowling coach.

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Speaker 2: He's the coach at the moment, and Gary Kirston was

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Speaker 2: the director of cricket. But Gary Kirston walked out when

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Speaker 2: they suddenly stripped him and Gillespie of any selectorial powers.

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Speaker 2: I think that's how it went. Yes, so yeah, and

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Speaker 2: it's just off the field, it's just chaos and that

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Speaker 2: will never change.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I remember Gillespie this week too, sorry about He actually

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Speaker 4: came out in the aftermath of the series win and said,

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Speaker 4: you know, the Australians were disengaged and what he means

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Speaker 4: by he means the Australian public, he means the Australian players,

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Speaker 4: and he stood the Cricket Australia's marketing. It was no

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Speaker 4: promotion of this series that he saw. Every poster, every billboard,

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Speaker 4: every social media post that he saw was for border

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Speaker 4: Gavascar for the Australia Indian Cricket Series, which really pissed

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Speaker 4: the Pakistani's off.

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Speaker 3: And obviously how they played better.

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Speaker 1: And it isn't fascinating because we were talking about, you

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Speaker 1: know that maybe INDIAD you know, didn't have their eye

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Speaker 1: on the ball when it came to playing us, so

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Speaker 1: that they too were possibly guilty of looking ahead to

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Speaker 1: that tour of Australia. Australia are guilty of the same thing,

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Speaker 1: and as a result of that, both sides in this

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Speaker 1: huge upcoming series now look like idiots because they've been

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Speaker 1: given a hiding by the teams that they've played previous

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Speaker 1: to the series.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that great?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I love it. I love it. Don't get me wrong, man.

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Speaker 2: We're reveler Lions fighting back against the Dark Empire.

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Speaker 1: Yeah good.

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Speaker 4: We need to factor this into our scheduling. We need

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Speaker 4: to look at when all of the headline big dog

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Speaker 4: series are and just sneak in there and play them

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Speaker 4: just before they guess, before they get there, because I

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Speaker 4: feel like we did this to England ahead of the

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Speaker 4: Ashes as well. We just sort of snuck in there

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Speaker 4: with a slightly ramshekel team and gave them a touch

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Speaker 4: up just before the Ashes in England last time around.

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Speaker 1: Two, you know. Having said that, actually I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to that series in the Australia. Oh just as a

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Speaker 1: side note here, feel as I discovered on Sky which

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Speaker 1: I've been enjoying quite a lot actually the sort of

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Speaker 1: domestic Australian cricket, you know, and I've been watching the Indie, RA,

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Speaker 1: Australia or A tests. Yeah, that's you know, for cricket fans,

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Speaker 1: it's quite nice to sort of stumble upon that quality

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Speaker 1: of cricket pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Well again, that's been quite controversial in Australia because of

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Speaker 2: those India AA, Australia A essentially became a bat off

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Speaker 2: for the one remaining opening spot, yes in the Australian

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Speaker 2: team to partner Usman Kwaja and they ended up giving

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Speaker 2: it to the guy who doesn't open South of South

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Speaker 2: Australian middle order player Nathan McSweeney.

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Speaker 1: And he was a skipper, wasn't he. Oh yeah, was

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Speaker 1: he the skipper?

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Speaker 2: He did skipper And yeah, you got people. I think

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Speaker 2: it's a former Australian payer whose name just as Casey

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Speaker 2: at the moment just come out and said they're just guessing.

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Speaker 2: It's just complete guesswork. They've got no idea what they're doing. Oh.

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Speaker 2: I was Joe Burns, the former Queensland opener who I

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Speaker 2: think he scored big runs against New Zealand and McCallum's

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Speaker 2: last series as skipper.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll tell you one of the things, genuinely

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Speaker 1: as a cricket lover that I am looking forward to

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Speaker 1: us seeing how jazz well goes over there for Australia,

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Speaker 1: because he's great to watch and he he, he just

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Speaker 1: gives it a bash, all right. Our own domestic game,

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Speaker 1: the Plunket Shield CD versus Otago and Napier Otago two

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Speaker 1: O three Max two eighty five Randall four for twenty

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Speaker 1: one and three for two CD three fifty nine for

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Speaker 1: nine d Kleaver one fifty one night out Muller three

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Speaker 1: for fifty two.

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Speaker 2: Well, actually they said vace a little bit since then

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Speaker 2: Otago at the time of reading, and now one O

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Speaker 2: six for eight in their second inning is crashing towards

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Speaker 2: a heavy defeat against the mighty CD. But the curious

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Speaker 2: thing about that being three for two overnight last night

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Speaker 2: was the fact they sent two night watchmen out to

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Speaker 2: the crease. Because the first night watchman, who I think

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Speaker 2: was Travis Muller, did they have the curious incident of

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Speaker 2: being caught on the boundary, which is.

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Speaker 1: Not really as a night watchman, that's not your job

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Speaker 1: to have a tonk are your boys pull forward? I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you got down to watch any of this.

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Speaker 1: Wellington versus Auckland, Auckland won eighty four, Bevan Jacobs seventy five,

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Speaker 1: Logan Van beat five for fifty three and one seventy

654
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Speaker 1: one for six. Will o'donald fifty two not out Wellington

655
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: two to seventy, Van beat one oh one. Peter old Wife,

656
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: I feel like that's some sort of set up there,

657
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: and Jordan seventy five and Jordan Sussex four for fifty.

658
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 3: Paul did see it out in the window.

659
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 4: Regendravendra, Devin Conway and Tom Blundell all playing in that game,

660
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 4: along with Finn Allen. And yeah, that's advanced a little

661
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 4: bit as well. Auckland actually managed to rustle up three

662
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 4: hundred and seventeen. So I've done the quick math. It

663
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 4: looks like Wellington need about two hundred and thirty to

664
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 4: win that one. They're currently started like an absolute sack

665
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 4: of shit. They're one for one and both Batsman at

666
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 4: the crease zero not out with Retch and Revenger and

667
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 4: next Devin Conways and so yeah, look out, it could

668
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 4: be quite quite a thriller. I might have to check

669
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Speaker 4: my annual leave balance for this afternoon.

670
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Speaker 2: So that's there was a nice little double of seventy

671
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: seventy five and seventy nine from I think it's Bevan

672
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: John Jacobs, who's an interesting cricketer himself.

673
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 4: So that's right, and it's been pretty that game though.

674
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 4: We should give Logan van Bekers shout out betting. I

675
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 4: think at number eight scored one hundred and a five

676
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 4: wicket bag. Pretty sensational from him to resurrect that first

677
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 4: innings of Wellington.

678
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: Hey, just there's a very quick sideline here, fin allen.

679
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: Ah, Now, let me tell you about his little innings

680
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 2: opening the batting and the I think he failed in

681
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: the first deck, open the batting and the second deck.

682
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: He might even be skipper. Yeah, Paul might have to

683
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 2: go to the interweb while I'm relating this little tale.

684
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 3: But solely I think is the skipper.

685
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 2: Solely is the skipper, right, So he was opening with

686
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: Solier and he scored forty nine in the second ins.

687
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that forty nine was made up of

688
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: ten fours and one six. Wow, that's correct, And he

689
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 2: went out having a wild swipe across the line.

690
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: That was good. Good Canterbury versus Indiant Hagley Canterbury three

691
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: sixty one for nine Chad Bows one oh seven, Matt

692
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: Boyle fifty nine, Christian Clark four for eighty three in

693
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: D two ninety one for eight, San Deep, Patawel fifty

694
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: six and bred Hampton fifty. Yeah.

695
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 2: Well, Indy actually managed to get their way up to

696
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 2: five point fifty two for nine declared, so they did

697
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 2: really well. I'm guessing that must mean that Wags scored

698
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: some runs. But what a start to the season for

699
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: Chad Bows. He scored that record setting double ton in

700
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: the four Trophy, scored a ton in the first round

701
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: of the Plunket Shield, so yeah, all power to him.

702
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: He kind of feels like a name that's was very

703
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 2: briefly in New Zealand Lights but as all disappeared out

704
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: of it. But perhaps there will be the second coming

705
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: of Chad Bows made.

706
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 3: Them thirty three and twenty six in that match.

707
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: Right, great stuff. Now I will take another short break here.

708
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: When we come back, it'll be Dylan Cleavers. Who am I?

709
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the BYC And now it's time for

710
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: Dylan Cleavers. Who am I? It's Dylan Cleavers, who am I?

711
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, last week we had several correct answers. I thought

712
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 2: I made the clues particularly cryptic, but people recognize that

713
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: it was in fact, Craig Spearman. A couple of good

714
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: little bits of correspondence actually from Matt Parker wrote, Hey guys,

715
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: I believe the answer is Craig Spearman. I moved to

716
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: London to work in banking around the same time as his.

717
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 2: As him, I grew up as a wisty, although not

718
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: quite as big as whisty as where he went to school.

719
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: I think he were to Kelston Boys. I always thought

720
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 2: that Craig Spearman was in my commercial law tutorial once

721
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: at Auckland Union nineteen ninety three. Had heard of him

722
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: listen to the shell trophy, just looked it up and

723
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: he went to Massy. So now that whole story is

724
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: ruined all the best man.

725
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: Sorry about that.

726
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 2: And Peter Douglas wrote, Craig Mary Spearman, tough clues. I

727
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: just think about these things a lot. I understand, Peter,

728
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: so do I. I seem to record he had three

729
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: hundred plus for Gloucestershire, which broke the county record held

730
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: by a reasonable player named W. G. Grace. Mind blowing

731
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: stuff for any black Cat fan left pulling their hair

732
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: out at his lovely but inconsequential twenties and thirties in

733
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: the late nineties. Keep up the great work. That is correct.

734
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: He was such an exasperating player, wasn't he? Man? And

735
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: he's right lovely twenties and thirties. Ah, he had so

736
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: much talent, Craig Spearman.

737
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 2: He looked like he could see your past.

738
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 4: Yes, destructive, absolutely destructive batsman on his day. That three

739
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 4: hundred and forty one that he got for Gloucestershire unbelievable.

740
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 4: He's an absolute legend in there at that county, isn't he.

741
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 4: And the other thing about him quite a sort of

742
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 4: quite a sad story. Actually, he was a compulsive gambler

743
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 4: and has been a real front man for that. I

744
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 4: think we might have talked about that that before, but yeah,

745
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 4: quite quite sad. And he genuinely talks about, you know,

746
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 4: the time that he can pinpoint when it moved from

747
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 4: being recreational gambling to problem gambling.

748
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 3: And then Black Captain stopped over.

749
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 4: I think it was in Ken's on the way to

750
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 4: a tour in India or Pakistan or off to the

751
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 4: sub continent, and he lost an absolute ship ton of money,

752
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 4: won it all back, but realized realized that he had

753
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 4: had a real problem and yeah that kind of he

754
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 4: had this. I think it was his wife got really sick,

755
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 4: and yeah there was also there's all sorts of really

756
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 4: difficult stuff that he's had to encounter. So yeah, quite

757
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 4: an interesting character for sure.

758
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: All Right, Dylan hit us mate.

759
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 2: All Right, this one's a bit of a sad one,

760
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: ag but here we go.

761
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: Who am I?

762
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: I made my first class debut while still at school,

763
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 2: with a small curiosity being that it wasn't even one

764
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 2: of the right schools inverted commas that dominated the christ

765
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: Church cricket scene. I was a man of notable firsts,

766
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: including scoring my one and only first class century in

767
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: less than an hour against Otago. Think about that, a

768
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 2: century in fifty three minutes. And that same game I

769
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 2: also dismissed the yappy little wicket keeper for a golden

770
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: deck and later in the match for two. I'm not

771
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: surprised Ted Henry rose to prominence in the Winter Game instead.

772
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: Another first was being banned for a Test for a

773
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: relatively arcane transgression. But my most notable moment in another

774
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: first came in I dismissed Phil Sharp LBW for forty

775
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 2: eight at the Oval. Though if I gave you any

776
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: more details, i'd be giving the game away. I was

777
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 2: known as the workingman's hero for the way I played

778
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: the game, and that was more to do with my

779
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: mighty six hitting than anything else. But fast, occasionally hostile

780
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: bowling was my raison datre. Unfortunately, life was not kind

781
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: to me once I left the sport. Couple of failed

782
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 2: marriages it was one thing, failed attempts as a public

783
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 2: in another, but worst of all was a family tragedy

784
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: that haunted me until my final morbidly obese breath. Who

785
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: am I? Hmm, well, you just gave the universe. It

786
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 2: was signal of an eyebrow raise, which in the case

787
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 2: that I think you know it.

788
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's quite a great another quite slightly grim story. DC,

789
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 3: it's a good good clothes, very good clothes, I thought.

790
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: Very good. With that in mind, let's have Paul Ford's

791
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: news or Ruse.

792
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 3: Jace. You're going to be bloody excited about the fact.

793
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 4: There's a new five team T twenty tournament called the

794
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 4: Global Super League launching in Guyana in late November, featuring

795
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 4: teams from five different countries, sanctioned by the by Cricket

796
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 4: West Indies and fully supported by the state government. Was

797
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 4: the National Government Guyana anyway, and prize money US a

798
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 4: million dollars. It's going to feature the Amazon Warriors and

799
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 4: a team from Cricket Victoria, the lahau Wilanders, Hampshire Cricket

800
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 4: Club and Rangper Riders from Bangladesh and none other than

801
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 4: Cory Anderson will be captaining the Cricket Victoria team number two.

802
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: The White Fans opening.

803
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 4: Game of the summer against Australia at the Basin Reserve

804
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 4: will be gold coin entry as New Zealand Cricket looks

805
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 4: to keep up the momentum behind the newly crowned icc

806
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 4: T twenty World champions Legends. The first ODII of the

807
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 4: Rose Bowl Series is on Thursday December the nineteenth, of course,

808
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 4: another piece of grim news and New Zealand haven't won

809
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 4: that for twenty five years. New Zealand Cricket said the

810
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 4: White Fans are a team. The New Zealand public are

811
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 4: really embracing at present and we're determined to make the

812
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 4: most of it. They've seen large crowns, crowds of excited

813
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 4: fans turning up and down the country during the trophy

814
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 4: tour and they need the supporters they get into this

815
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 4: Crunch series against the dirty, filthy, cheating Australians.

816
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 3: And number three West Indies fastball Alzari Joseph has been

817
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: suspended for two matches by Cricket West Indy's over a

818
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 3: very public disagreement with captain Shy Hope of a field

819
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: placements during an ODII against England this week, which the

820
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 3: West Indies won. Ironically, Joseph and Hope engaged in a

821
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 3: lengthy argument for Joseph's over and he had to be

822
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 3: urged by the umpires to resume play after a ball

823
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 3: was played away on the off side During the over.

824
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 4: Joseph remonstrated with Hope. When the over ended, he just

825
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 4: simply walked off the field.

826
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 3: Unbelievable. Cricket West Indies said.

827
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 4: In a statement that his conduct fell short of their

828
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 4: standards of professionalism. Joseph, to be fair, also apologized and said,

829
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

830
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 3: My passion got the best of me.

831
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: I think it's you'll tend to go first.

832
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 2: Actually, d C had a lot of luck of this lately.

833
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: No, you mean I've been giving luck.

834
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 3: It's not about luck.

835
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 2: So that Western he's one is dead right. I watched that.

836
00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: That was hilarious, that that was insane. I don't know

837
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 2: anything about that Global Super League. It just sounds bizarre.

838
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: Why did they pick those five teams to go and

839
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: play in Guyana. But I'm going to go with the

840
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: White Fans because I believe that it's not even a

841
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: gold coin entry. I just believe it's just free. That's

842
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: what I was marketed as. Anyway, in the email, I

843
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: go from New Zealand Cricket free entry.

844
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to go for the first option because it

845
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: sounds like a hideous disgrace of a tournament, and I'm

846
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: going to say the prize money is incorrect.

847
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,479
Speaker 4: Like the rage and the fury in your belly chase.

848
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 4: But Dylan Clever's going to take this one home. That

849
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 4: is exactly right.

850
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 3: As free entry to the White Fans game at you,

851
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 3: I'd be.

852
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: Back, knew whatever, whatever, All right now, I believe now,

853
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: Dylan Cleaver, you're going to give us a book review

854
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty four New Zealand Cricket Almanac.

855
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that wone work on a podcast so well. But

856
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: I'm holding it up now so my fellow pundits and

857
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: panelists can see the cover. It is. I've remiss of

858
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: this not to do it earlier actually, because it's always

859
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: a it's always a great day for me when the

860
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 2: book drops through into my letterbox from the publishers.

861
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 4: Do you get it for free or do you pay

862
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 4: fifty five dollars like the riff Raft.

863
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: I must I get it for free?

864
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 3: No, wonder you look to it, bugger.

865
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's always immaculately presented. This time Retch

866
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 2: and Revenger is on the cover after he's scored his

867
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 2: double ton against South Africa. I think that's fair enough.

868
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Speaker 1: Can I just ask you a question. I'm just I'm

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Speaker 1: just watching you holding that book, Dylan, and I can

870
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Speaker 1: see it's like I used to be when I was

871
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Speaker 1: a little kid with brand new stationery. I can see

872
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 1: the glee and the joy. Do you get quite excited

873
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: when do you handle new books? Yeah?

874
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Speaker 2: I smell them, Yes, good. I don't know what I

875
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Speaker 2: expect them to smell like, but I'm always.

876
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Speaker 1: Pleased newly printed.

877
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 2: Newly printed smell. And just a couple of points of

878
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Speaker 2: interest in it. As the players of the year were

879
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: ritching Revendra and Kane Williamson, which I don't think you

880
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: can argue about. They both had incredible seasons, but the

881
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 2: promising players Zach Folks, Will O'Rourke and Gareth Severin, and

882
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 2: I think they've already probably been proved pretty accurate. Accurate

883
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: on folks in willow'rourke, it might take Gareth Severin a

884
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Speaker 2: little bit longer to make that step up. But there

885
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: was one other thing that like Francis Payne and Ian

886
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: Smith who compile this just legends in their field. And

887
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Speaker 2: I didn't realize this, This is this little factoid, yes,

888
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 2: escaped me. But with those wins in India, with Tim

889
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: Sowdy playing two tests that one, he is now the

890
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: most successful test cricketer in New Zealand history. Wow, did

891
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: you realize that? No, he now has.

892
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 4: I didn't know either that. That's a bloody good record

893
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Speaker 4: to have, isn't it. I've won Imagine going to the

894
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 4: pub and going I've won more Test matches for New

895
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 4: Zealand than anyone else in the history of the game.

896
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Speaker 3: Yes, that's good, that's a good record.

897
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: It's amazing. So he went past Ross Taylor. He is

898
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 2: now forty six. Ross Taylor as forty four. Cain Williamson,

899
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: who lester remind you did not play in any of

900
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: the three tests and is stuck on forty three, but

901
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: I suspect that he will eventually pass both Sauvi and Taylor.

902
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: How long does Cain go for?

903
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 2: Two more years? Reckon?

904
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Speaker 1: Two more?

905
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 2: Maybe three? I think he might do the next Wiltis

906
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: Championship cycle and that might be it for him. I

907
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: don't know, I've got no that's just speculations.

908
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: He's really struggled with injury. He seems to be under

909
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 1: the gun a lot these days.

910
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 4: I reckon, I reckon it could be the end of

911
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 4: this England series?

912
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Speaker 2: Do you reckon? I reckon it could be for Suvi.

913
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 2: I honestly think this summer might be Soudy's last, But

914
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: well it might. The choice might not be his, to

915
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 2: be fair.

916
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, that's a grim thought, Yeah, isn't it?

917
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: Pull forwards? Cricket violence corners, cricket violence corner gun.

918
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Speaker 4: A man's been assaulted in an apparent road rage incident

919
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 4: in high Wickham Valley. Police have launch an appeal for

920
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 4: witnesses following the assault. When two men got out of

921
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 4: a dark colored carn Air traffic lights on doors Hill Lane.

922
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Speaker 4: They proceeded to use homophobic language towards the victim, A

923
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Speaker 4: man in his forties before assaulting him with a cricket bat.

924
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 4: The victims suffered injuries which required hospital treatment, but he's

925
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Speaker 4: since been discharged. Officers are appealing for witnesses and footage

926
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Speaker 4: to the incident. The maker's name of the bat was

927
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Speaker 4: unable to be seen in security footage. I know because

928
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Speaker 4: I locked. The driver of the car is described vaguely

929
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Speaker 4: as thus mixed heritage, in his early thirties and around

930
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Speaker 4: six feet tall. That would cover about seventy percent of

931
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Speaker 4: the people in that area.

932
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Speaker 3: I'd suggest, how.

933
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Speaker 2: Am they know his mixed heritage for what has mixed me?

934
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Speaker 2: He could be just heritage. What they're saying is he's

935
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Speaker 2: not classically Anglo Saxon, aren't they.

936
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Speaker 1: That's what they're saying. Hey, you know to your correspondence,

937
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Speaker 1: this is from Jack, and he writes, hey, guys, love

938
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Speaker 1: your work may need some deeper analysis here, but I'd

939
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Speaker 1: like to draw attention to a wider member of the

940
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Speaker 1: black Caps team that seems to have an interesting knack

941
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Speaker 1: for winning. Mike Sandor, the current team manager. He joined

942
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Speaker 1: the black Caps at the start of the twenty eleven

943
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Speaker 1: twenty twelve summer and finished up early twenty twenty two

944
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Speaker 1: quite clearly the meat and bones of our golden era.

945
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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, right when the black Caps performances

946
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Speaker 1: started to dip, he took up a CEO position at

947
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Speaker 1: Taranaki Rugby, this being the region he grew up in.

948
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Speaker 1: During the two years he was in this position, the

949
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Speaker 1: Taranaki Bulls won the provisional title in twenty twenty three

950
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Speaker 1: and had a very good win record in twenty twenty four,

951
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Speaker 1: might I add, finishing with the great Ranfordy Shield. He

952
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Speaker 1: then joins the black Caps again in twenty twenty five

953
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Speaker 1: for right before the greatest Test series in New Zealand

954
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Speaker 1: cricket history. Coincidence or is there something a bit more

955
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Speaker 1: at foot here? Whatever it is, I hope his presence

956
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Speaker 1: brings plenty more victories in the future.

957
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Speaker 2: Dylan Cleaver, Yeah, there's a bit of a spell check

958
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: or what is it, what's it called autocorrect issue? There?

959
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Speaker 2: It was the provincial title rather than the provisional title.

960
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Speaker 2: But ah right, Yeah. As a keen man of the

961
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Speaker 2: Taraniki as well, I have followed Mike Sanders progress very

962
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Speaker 2: closely and there is something quite freaky actually about that.

963
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Speaker 2: I wonder what they had to do to convince him

964
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Speaker 2: to come back.

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Speaker 4: I yeah, he does seem like a bit of a

966
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Speaker 4: lucky charm, but I think that massively sort of undervalues

967
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Speaker 4: his contribution. I think the role that he's come back to,

968
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Speaker 4: as I understand it without getting into sort of page

969
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Speaker 4: seven of the job description, but I think it's much

970
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Speaker 4: more focused on that broader performance of the of the team,

971
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Speaker 4: and so looking after the crew that managed the performance

972
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Speaker 4: of the team, rather than just the sort of logistics

973
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Speaker 4: and where the suitcases are going and the admin and

974
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Speaker 4: how many people want bacon with their eggs and all

975
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Speaker 4: of that kind of stuff and all the cricket diplomacy.

976
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Speaker 4: I think it's a yet very much kind of in

977
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Speaker 4: the thick of the action with the team, which is

978
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Speaker 4: fantastic in terms of that question though DC.

979
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Speaker 3: I mean, I've got absolutely no idea.

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Speaker 4: But it does seem a curious move to sort of

981
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Speaker 4: come out and say, yep, really great, can't wait to

982
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Speaker 4: go home? Be great to get rid of all of

983
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Speaker 4: the travel and all of that kind of stuff. He

984
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Speaker 4: did go in there. It coincided with that Silver Lake

985
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Speaker 4: money being handed down, and I do wonder whether some

986
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Speaker 4: of the shenanigans that have created a lot of headlines

987
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Speaker 4: and a lot of anks and rugby circles. He maybe

988
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 4: just was there for the taking for New Zealand cricket

989
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Speaker 4: and bloody good on them forgetting them, I'd.

990
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Speaker 1: Say, great Steven, terms of your correspondence, pulled forward, What

991
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Speaker 1: do they need to do?

992
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Speaker 4: Flick as an email to b YC at Beije Brigade

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Speaker 4: dot code on end ed will slide into the DMS

994
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Speaker 4: of the alternative commentary collective All the Beige Brigade on

995
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Speaker 4: Instagram or Facebook. Keep it to a sort of one

996
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Speaker 4: hundred words or thereabouts, just to so we can screenshot

997
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Speaker 4: it into our WhatsApp chat and bring it up to

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Speaker 4: up to the mixer each week.

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Speaker 1: Great stuff. Hey well thanks for taking the time to

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Speaker 1: listen to this podcast telling your mates about it. Why

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Speaker 1: don't you and we will be back of course, same time,

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Speaker 1: same place next week. Till then, see you later.