1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: So we can now name the prominent New Zealander facing 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: serious charges in court it as deputy former Deputy Police 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Commissioner Jim mc skimming. He's facing charges of possessing objectionabable 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: objectionable material, good design need to go and study again, 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: including child exploitation material and unfortunately best regality. Jared Savage 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: is an investigative reporter at the Herald High Jarrett Hither Jared, 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,159 Speaker 1: is this content that he got through his work in 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: the police or is this stuff that he just got 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: from the internet as a civilian. 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: I don't know there answer connect, but I would say 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: that I strongly doubt whether the police would have laid 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: such serious charges against the former Deputy commissioner if it 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: was something that he had been looking at as part 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: of his duties as a police officer. So there's a 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: lot more to play out with us in the court process. 16 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: Are going to be pretty careful that the allegations, but 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: I would suspect that if that's a defense to be raised, 18 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: that will come later at trial. 19 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: Right and was this found because police were looking for 20 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: the stuff or did they stumbled across across it when 21 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: they were investigating the separate staff related complaint which came first. 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, you're right, there's a separate complaint that the 23 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 2: police were investigating late last year with the Independent Police 24 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: Conduct Authority. My understanding is this is part of that 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: inquiry and we can't get into the details of that 26 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: for other reasons, but as part of that they have 27 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: had such wants of his group devices and allegedly found 28 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: this objectional material on his computer that led to a separate, 29 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: a separate police investigation. And it was at that point 30 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: where you know, the police Minister Mark Mitchell was, you know, 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: sort of given this maturity. Look, we found an issue 32 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: here separate to the original complaint and that's read the 33 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: mixed skimming resigning. So in may I. 34 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: Think, and why did he allow his name suppression to 35 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: lapse today? 36 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what you allowed it to lapse, but 37 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: it's sort of one of those things that is actually 38 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: is quite hard to keep name suppression ongoing for a 39 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: long time unless there are very good reasons for it. 40 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: That the threshold can be quite high the media. So 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: the heroinesed me stuff are and zealous come be banding 42 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: together and sort of finding the suppression aspect of it earlier, 43 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: and I think given the significant public interest in this, 44 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: I think it would have been very hard for judge 45 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 2: to sort of maintain the status quo. 46 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: Really, and so, what's the maximum sentence he faces here 47 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: if he was to be found guilty. 48 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: If he was to be found guilty, then a maximum 49 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: sentence is ten years in prison or a fifty thousand 50 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: dollars fine. But that's the viear, that's the very maximum 51 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: end of it. 52 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: Brilliant. Hey, thank you for running us through that, Jared appreciated. 53 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: That's Jared Savage, the Herald's investigative reporter. For more from 54 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: Hither Duplessy, Allen Drive, listen live to news Talks. It'd 55 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on 56 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio