1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: earlier this show with one roof love where you live 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: News talks. 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: That'd be good morning. 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 3: It is Tuesday, will will be all across the Middle 6 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 3: East situation this morning. You've got oil refineries being hit. 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 3: Now you've got gas plants being hit, so prices are 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 3: being affected. We'll keep you across that this morning. When 9 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 3: does it end? That's the question on everybody's lips. Depends 10 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 3: on the weapons. I suppose we've got a guy out 11 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 3: of the US who's got the numbers on that will 12 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 3: bring you him before six o'clock and the money and 13 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 3: Nui captain to stand in the dock as our navy 14 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 3: vessel sits at the bottom of the ocean in Samoa. 15 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 3: The agenda Tuesday, third of March Great to have your 16 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: company will start. In the US, the War Secretary Pete 17 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 3: Headseth has been talking alongside the Air Force General Dan Caine. 18 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: Here's an update from them. 19 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 4: Turns out the regime who chanted death to America and 20 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 4: death to Israel was gifted death from America and death 21 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 4: from Israel. This is not a so called regime change war, 22 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 4: but the regime sure did change and the world is 23 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 4: better off for it. 24 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: Trump speaking surely will bring you what he says. Stamis 25 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: just spoken to the House. The Commons will bring you 26 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 3: him to us. Casualties go from three to four. 27 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 5: Military objectives are clear. Our mission is to protect and 28 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 5: defend ourselves and together with our regional partners, prevent aaran 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 5: from the ability to project power outside of its borders 30 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 5: and be ready for follow on actions as appropriate. 31 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 3: And in Europe, Night Rattel, he's on board with all this. 32 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 6: Absolutely support if all for the Americans are doing, taking 33 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 6: out to nuclear and the ballistic capability in uralm which 34 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 6: is a threat to us in Europe, threat to Israel, 35 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 6: to the region. I think it's really clear that you're 36 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 6: stepping up, and that's very important. 37 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: Now, in other news this morning, I'll take you to 38 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 3: Nepal where a thirty five year old rapper turned politician, 39 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: where we heard that before Mamdami, he's been dominating a 40 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: local electoral race there. The election is March fifth. Our 41 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: former Katmandu mayor Belindra Shah has been playing his Ai 42 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: generated campaign song translates to times up, Fake Leader's game over, 43 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: will ring the bell on March fifth. 44 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan 45 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: Bridge and one roof Love, Where you Live, News TALKSB. 46 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: News TALKSB just got eight minutes after five nine nine 47 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 3: two is the number to text this morning. Would love 48 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: to hear from you, and we will hear now from Starma, 49 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 3: who's just addressed the House of Comments. 50 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 7: The first decision was whether or not the United Kingdom 51 00:02:54,320 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 7: should join the US Israel offensive against Iron. We took 52 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 7: the decision that we should not. It is our duty, 53 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 7: my duty to ensure they have a lawful basis. On 54 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 7: Saturday we deploy it. We deployed UK pilots into the 55 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 7: sky in the region and they've been working there ever since. 56 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 7: They deserve to know that their actions are lawful. 57 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: See. The problem you've got for people like Starma is 58 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: they didn't support their original thing. Sure, but then as 59 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 3: soon as Iran starts firing rockets everywhere and heading bases 60 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: where your troops are based, then you've actually got to 61 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: get involved and do something, don't you. So he said 62 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: he's allowing his basis for defensive purposes at the stage, 63 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: but who knows how far that's going to go. The 64 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: other thing you've got to think about is the fact 65 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: You've got three hundred thousand Brits who are in countries 66 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: currently being targeted by Iran. One hundred thousand of them 67 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 3: are registered. You know, we have the Safe Travel website. 68 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: They've got a Foreign Office equivalent one hundred thousand registered, 69 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: but they reckon three hundred thousand there. So you can't 70 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: just sit idly bi can you. Trump was also criticizing 71 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: Starma for not getting involved in allowing the use of 72 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: bases earlier. Coming to the price of oil and the 73 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: price of gas, which is shot up too. So oil, 74 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: you look at futures for brient crue. Global energy benchmark 75 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 3: up eight percent, European natural gas prices up fifty percent 76 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 3: this morning. Cut our energy. That's the world's largest allen producer. 77 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: They produce about twenty percent of the world's allergy. That's 78 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: the stuff that we're going to get through Tartanaki. By 79 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 3: the way, of course, you wouldn't want to be buying 80 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: it at the moment. They produced twenty percent of the 81 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 3: world's supply. That's gone up fifty percent in Europe overnight. 82 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: Just a couple of numbers for you. Now, the shipping 83 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 3: lanes the Strait up is still basically closed that's a 84 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: narrow little bit on around southern border, no way around. 85 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,559 Speaker 3: It essentially gets your oil through, gets your stuff through. 86 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 3: Not only a fifth of the global oil passed through there, 87 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: but also a fifth of LNG shipments which were just 88 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: spoken about, and a third of fertile So our farmers 89 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: will be wondering about this. And then this is the 90 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 3: question how long does it go on? That's really the 91 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: question that you want to answer this morning, and that 92 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 3: depends on how big a weapons stockpile Iran really has 93 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: and what their capability is to keep firing it, because 94 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: as long as they can do that, the whole thing 95 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 3: will carry on. That's the expert we're talking to before six, 96 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 3: and the guy is good. He's been running the numbers. 97 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 3: Apparently they can make four hundred drones a day, the Iranians. 98 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 3: And this is you know, people talk about boots on 99 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 3: the ground, as boots on the ground is relevant anymore 100 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 3: when you've got drones. Look at what's happening in Ukraine 101 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: nine two ninety two gone, twelve minutes after five? Next 102 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 3: the money with Nui, what's happening with the Captain? News? 103 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: Talk said b on. 104 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: Your radio and online on Iheard Radio early edition with 105 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and one roof love where you live. 106 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: News Talk said b quarter past five, great to have 107 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 3: your company just so some words of wisdom and maybe 108 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 3: to calm the farm a little bit. Pipers Sandler's chief 109 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 3: investment strategist, a guy called Michael Crantrawitz, who was being 110 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: quoted quite widely in global media this morning, has come 111 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: out and said, hey, settle down, settle down. The market 112 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 3: corrections dating back to nineteen sixty four spurred by headlines, 113 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 3: which is what we have at the moment, rather than 114 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: broader economic trends like rising interest rates, unemployment, all that 115 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: sort of stuff tend to be the shortest, so investors 116 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: don't get overly defensive. As his advice, getting bearish now 117 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 3: is making you a market timer, which is a very 118 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 3: dangerous place to be and a backdrop that can change 119 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: with literally one headline. Ryan Breck, the Captain of the 120 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: Man of minuis commander of von Gray, is among three 121 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: Navy officers being charged over at sinking in Samoa last year. 122 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 3: You remember that they all face court martial proceedings alleged 123 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 3: of negligently causing a ship to be lost. John Battersby 124 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: is senior fellow, Massive University Center for Defense and Security Studies, John, 125 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 3: Good morning, John, Have I got you? 126 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 2: I'm here? 127 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 3: We are John? Are they are they? What's the story here? 128 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 3: Are they out for blood? Or is this just process 129 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 3: or what? 130 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 8: I would definitely say it's it's process, and it's inevitable 131 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 8: whenever a major air set light this is lost in 132 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 8: peace time, of course, is going to be an inquiry 133 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 8: is huge public interest, major public a seat. Yes, there 134 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 8: has to be an inquiry that exhaustively locks at all 135 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 8: the circumstances. And as a commander of a naval peace 136 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 8: of your one job is to keep that above order. 137 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 8: So no, they're not out for that. This is the 138 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 8: accountability process that is perfectly normal in a circumstance. 139 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 3: Does it mean that they've looked at other factors and 140 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: determined it must have been human era? 141 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: Though? 142 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 8: I think they've looked at all possible factors, and I 143 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 8: think that in the naval report that came out did 144 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 8: highlight a number of contributed factors or associated factors. So 145 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 8: now it doesn't it doesn't rule those out, But what 146 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,679 Speaker 8: it does do is the human element of this needs 147 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 8: to be explored, and that is what this inquiry will do. 148 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: Okay, what is it negligence? What's the punishment? Well, what 149 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 3: could be a punishment or something like that. 150 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 8: Oh, there could be a range of punishments, and it 151 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 8: would be probably unwise to be too too speak litive 152 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 8: about that. The losing a ship in peace time, that's 153 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 8: a that's a serious matter. So I can't imagine there'll 154 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 8: be a trifle. 155 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: Hey, your thoughts John on what's going on in the 156 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 3: Middle East? You must be interested in that. 157 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 8: Oh, when your reporter rang me last night, he said, 158 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 8: we're not going to ask you about that, so be 159 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 8: prepared for you. 160 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 161 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 8: Look, there's there's Look, there's are so much happening over 162 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 8: there at the moment. I would say historically, whenever the 163 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 8: Americans have got involved in Iran, there's been a short 164 00:08:54,200 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 8: term tactical success and much more severe longer term actual 165 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 8: lys successful outcomes. The fifty three overturning of a democratic 166 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 8: elected president there led to a period of very very 167 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 8: poor government that was not in the advantages of Iranian 168 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 8: people and inevitably lead to the two and seventy nine 169 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 8: which has put the current regime in there. So look, 170 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 8: from a historical perspective, not looking terribly enthusiastically at what's 171 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 8: happened over there, although you know that regime is horrific. 172 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 8: So while I won't publicly celebrate the death of any 173 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 8: human individual, the overturning of the regime, but that is 174 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 8: going to happen. As long as it leads to a 175 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 8: better one, you could be a good outcome. But again, 176 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 8: we seem to be hoping a lot, and there doesn't 177 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 8: seem to be a clear objective in what the Americans 178 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 8: are doing, not a clear cut one. There's no obvious 179 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 8: successor we could go back to what was there before. 180 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent, John, Thanks very much for your 181 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 3: time this morning. John battersbe Massi University Center for Defense 182 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 3: and Security Studies, Senior Fellow. It's eighteen after five. You're 183 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 3: on News Talk ZBB. But all this talk for so 184 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 3: the Australians have designated the terror entity, the iicg over 185 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 3: there terror entity, and they've also expelled the Iranian ambassador 186 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 3: from Australia. We haven't done that here. Does that actually matter? 187 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: Fill golf on that. 188 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: Next News and Views you trust to start your day. 189 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and one roof Love 190 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: where you Live News talksb. 191 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 3: News talk ZBB. It is twenty after five, So the 192 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 3: PM yesterday and is post scabs signaling the IRGC. That's 193 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. Could they're the really bad ones? 194 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 3: Could soon be officially listed as a terrorist organization here 195 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: in New Zealand. 196 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 9: Calls for New Zealand. 197 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 6: To designate the IIGC as a terrorist entity. 198 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 10: Will you do that again? That has been a process, 199 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 10: as you know, around terrorism designation that we have separately 200 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 10: from this event. But suffice to say that I think 201 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 10: we'll have a decision on that very shortly. 202 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 3: The Aussies have already done it. They've also expelled their 203 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 3: Iranian ambassador for god former Foreign affairs minister with US 204 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: and Minister of Defense. Good morning Phil, Yes, good morning. 205 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 11: Right. 206 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 3: Does it really matter if we do that at this point? 207 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 11: No, it looks like it's totally opportunistic to do it now. 208 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 11: If you're going to do it, you should have done 209 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 11: it much earlier. But you've also got to be consistent. 210 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 11: So we decide that Iran, which has an awful regime, 211 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 11: we're not going to have diplomatic relations with it, or 212 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 11: we're going to prescribe they're military. What about Russia? Russia 213 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 11: invaded Ukraine. It's killed hundreds of thousands of people. Why 214 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 11: do we treat Iran different from another oppressive regime or 215 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 11: North Korea? You need to be consistent in your foreign 216 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 11: policy and you need to follow the rule of law. Really, 217 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 11: Luxance A six and seven's over that that's obvious from 218 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 11: his performances. He knows that the action by Trump and 219 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 11: Israel was illegal, but he just can't find the words 220 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 11: to say that and say, well, we don't. 221 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: Care about the rule of international law anymore. But no 222 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: one can look starma. 223 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I know. 224 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 3: You know what, when you're enough, you've got to be careful, 225 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 3: you know. 226 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 9: Yeah. 227 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 10: Yeah. 228 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 11: We live in a world where we have a predictable 229 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 11: leader in the United States, the United States, the very 230 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 11: country that's set up the rule of law in the 231 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 11: United Nations with other countries, and we're too scared to 232 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 11: say anything that might offend them. Therefore, we've effectively abandoned 233 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 11: our sovereignty. We're not prepared to say what we think, 234 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 11: to speak the truth and to do the right thing. 235 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 3: We've been here before with the run. What do you see? 236 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 3: What's the endgame here? What's going to happen? Do you 237 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 3: reckon Well. 238 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 11: Trump has talked about it being regime change, and he's 239 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 11: encouraging people to rise up, but then he's saying he's 240 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 11: not going to put boots on the ground. And we've 241 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 11: seen that story before. So you encourage people to rise up, 242 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 11: they don't have the guns, they get slaughtered, and the 243 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 11: United States stands back and doesn't do anything because it's 244 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 11: not going to put boots on the ground. You don't 245 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 11: advise people to do something that results in them being 246 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 11: slaughtered unless you're prepared to back them up, and they're 247 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 11: not prepared to do that. It's really, you know, human 248 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 11: rights don't matter that much to Trump. When he changed 249 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 11: the leadership in Venezuela, he didn't change the regime. 250 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 3: Felg former Defense minister, former foreign minister. Time is twenty 251 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: three after five. Ryan brig just on that. Hig Seth 252 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 3: has said, this is the War Secretary new title. He 253 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: has said, we will go as far as we need 254 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 3: to go to advance American interests, but we're not dumb 255 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 3: about it. You don't have to roll two hundred thousand 256 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 3: people in there and stay for twenty years. So they're 257 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: not ruling out putting troops at boots on the ground. 258 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 3: But are they actually going to do that? 259 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 4: President Trump is sure that our enemies understand, will go 260 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 4: as far as we need to go to advanced American interests. 261 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 4: We're not dumb about it. You don't have to roll 262 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 4: two hundred thousand people in there and stay for twenty years. 263 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: So he's adding forces to the region. They've already got 264 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: two aircraft carriers there, hundreds of five di JITs, dozens 265 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 3: of refueling tankers, thousands of troops. But are they going 266 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 3: to put boots on the ground. Well? As I said earlier, 267 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: is it actually about that anymore? Or is it all 268 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 3: about the drones? 269 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: News TALKSB the early edition full the show podcast on iHeartRadio, 270 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: power by News TALKSB. 271 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 3: Five point twenty six on News TALKSB. There's been a 272 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 3: lot of chat lately. We'll come back to the war 273 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: stuff in a second, but there's been a lot of 274 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: chat lately about AI replacing jobs, and I get it. 275 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 3: There are signs that it's happening, little pockets of it 276 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 3: happening for certain roles, especially your more junior roles. The 277 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: threat is real, but there are some things that a 278 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 3: computer will never know and never be able to do 279 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: like reading somebody's emotions. Burger King in the US, this 280 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: is a story out this week is trialing AI software 281 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: to judge how courteous and friendly it's staff are. I 282 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: know it sounds weird. That is weird. They've got an 283 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 3: aptly named AI assistant Patty, apparently doing this task for them. 284 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 6: Now. 285 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: Patty lives in their headsets, poor things, monitoring their every word. 286 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: So if you have handing out Whoppers, it a drive through. 287 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 3: Patty will apparently record how many times you say welcome, please, 288 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 3: and thank you. Patty then delivers the Whopper crew a 289 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: daily friendliness score. Apart from sounding like peak micro managing 290 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 3: and a pain in the backside, Patty with respect actually 291 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 3: doesn't know what she orat is talking about. Can Patty 292 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 3: detect sarcasm? Does Patty know if you're dead in the 293 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: eyes while you're welcoming the next hungry customer? Customer service 294 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: isn't so much about what somebody says, but how they 295 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: say it. It's that glint in their eye, it's in 296 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: an affectation of their face in Japan, a polite bow 297 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 3: of the head. In New Zealand, too much talking or 298 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 3: fake friendly could be seen as rude, am I right, 299 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: We're a bit like that here. We're more of a 300 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 3: smile and polite hand gesture type country, aren't we. Human 301 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: interaction is intricate, it's unique. It takes even trained humans 302 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 3: time to properly figure out how you're really feeling. Have 303 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 3: more than forty facial muscles and using them in different 304 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:08,479 Speaker 3: ways can apparently lead us to ten thousand subtle emotional 305 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: messages that we convey to one another. Isn't that fascinating? 306 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 3: I went to the bank yesterday to order an f postcard. 307 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: Bank manager came over, set hello. Can't tell you most 308 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: of what she said to me, but I know that 309 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 3: she was lovely. Went home told my partner how lovely 310 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 3: this woman at the bank was. Is this a job 311 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: that AI can master? I mean rarely. Even if Paddy 312 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 3: had a camera on our eyeballs, a microphone and a 313 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: pulse checker, I don't think it could truly tell what 314 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 3: we're really thinking in a way that only other humans can. 315 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: Rain Bridge two on newstalk 'b hey, we're here to 316 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: Leslie yeomans out of Australia. Shortly they had a lot 317 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 3: of rain in central Australia. Some flooding there. This is 318 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 3: around Alice Springs. Also dairy farmer's there. They want Australia 319 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 3: to follow the UK. They are not happy with non 320 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: dairy products being labeled as milk. I think oat milk 321 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 3: and whatever else. You are the nuts, that's not milk. 322 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 3: Quick numbers for you on jobs employment market showing further 323 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 3: simes of stabilizing strong growth in services sector jobs. This 324 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 3: is stats in Z's monthly report on employment. So we're 325 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 3: up point two percent for January to two point three 326 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: five million. You're on News Talks EDB We're live to 327 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: Australia next, and then the. 328 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: US are five known the news you need this morning 329 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: and the in depth analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge. 330 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 2: And One Room Love where you live. News Talks B. 331 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 3: Twenty we're away from six Yer on News Talks. Be 332 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: great to have your company this morning. Right now, stocks 333 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 3: are trading strongly negative correlation to oil. Basically, as the 334 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 3: price of oil goes up, and it was up eight 335 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 3: percent in the futures markets, then the stocks come down. 336 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 3: Look at the stocks that are coming down, No surprises. 337 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 3: It's your cruise lines, your Royal Caribbeans down six percent. 338 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: Carnival shares down eleven percent, your airlines taking a hit, 339 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 3: British ear weighs down four percent. Stocks that are going 340 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 3: up as we come to wear defense company stocks unsurprising there. 341 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 3: The big worry for us, of course, is what's happening 342 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 3: in the Strait of whom was which is oil, which 343 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 3: is gas, but is also fertilizer that we put on 344 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 3: our farms. Basically, it's no go at the moment. They're 345 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 3: bombing the hall out of anything that tries to go through, 346 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: including an oil tanker in the Gulf of Amman yesterday 347 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 3: that was hit by a drone. You've got the Iranians 348 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 3: now heading Saudi oil refineries, which is the Saudi's lifeblood. 349 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: So where does that go from here? We are expecting 350 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 3: in the next half hour or so to hear from 351 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 3: Donald Trump out of the White House. He's doing a 352 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 3: Medal of Honor ceremony there, but he is expected to 353 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 3: give remarks about what's going on in the Middle East. 354 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 3: They will bring you though as we get them to hand. 355 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 3: We'll head to Australia where there's some heavy rains in 356 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 3: the central area, and we will head to the US. 357 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 3: When does the war end? That is the question and 358 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 3: the answer lies in how big the stockpile of weapons is. 359 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 3: And we've got a guy who's been counting twenty three 360 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 3: to six. 361 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 2: Bryan Bread, Dunedin. 362 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 3: News, Jamie Cunningham, good morning, Good morning, Ryan. So nominations 363 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 3: are in now for the City Council by election year. 364 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 12: So fourteen candidates have taken a stand to fill the 365 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 12: seat left vacant by the unexpected death of Counselor and 366 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 12: former Mayor Juels Raddick earlier this year. Among the hopefuls 367 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 12: is former Meir Aaron Hawkins, who served nine years on 368 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 12: the council, including three years as mayor, before losing to 369 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 12: Raddick at the twenty twenty two election. Also in the 370 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 12: running as previous city councilor Carmen Hulahan. Voters will have 371 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 12: until midday on May twelve to return their postal ballots. 372 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 3: All right, and how's the weather fine? 373 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 12: Apart from some morning cloud easterly's in the afternoon and 374 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 12: are high of fifteen? 375 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Clear than Christ morning, Claire, Good morning. 376 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 3: I just want to read your text from Danny Claire 377 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 3: before we start. Ryan, I always look forward to hearing 378 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 3: clear from christ Church easily the best female voice in 379 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: New Zealand Broadcasting. Sorry Neva, Sorry Jamie who we just 380 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 3: head on news talk should make greater use of her 381 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 3: on the national stage. There you go. 382 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 13: Oh how lovely. What a way to pump the tires 383 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 13: this early on a Tuesday. 384 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 3: Now, don't cock this up. 385 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 13: Hey, look, I've got an update for you and you'll 386 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 13: be unsurprised about Bromley Ryan. We have council announcing that 387 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 13: there is a fresh plan to tackle the stink coming 388 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 13: from the east. It's a plan, but it is one 389 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 13: that's already raising some eyebrows and i'll explain that shortly effectively. 390 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 13: Christich City Council has been issued this abatement noticed by 391 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 13: Environment Canterbury, which demands a plan to deal with the stink. 392 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 13: We know there have been thousands of complaints in recent weeks. 393 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 13: It's been ongoing though for some years, since a fire 394 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 13: ripped through the plant in twenty twenty one. Now, in 395 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 13: order to reduce the stench from the plant, the council 396 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 13: now has a plan to pump thirty percent of part 397 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 13: actually treated wastewater into an existing ocean outfall pipe. They 398 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 13: will add chlorine in order to keep bacteria levels safe. 399 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 13: Now Pilm. Major confidently told us yesterday that they've been 400 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 13: working on this plan alongside Environment Canterbury and Mana Fenua. 401 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 13: That said, reporting this morning suggests that he can have 402 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 13: not been consulted about this plan to date. Major does 403 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 13: say that anyone worried about the ocean being filled with 404 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 13: chlorine should fear not, as the chemical will be dissipated 405 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 13: by the time. 406 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 14: It gets to sea. 407 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 3: All right, how's your weather? 408 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 13: Mostly cloudy, There is the odd shower around this afternoon, 409 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 13: but will become fine by evening. Southwesterlies and a higher fifteen. 410 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: Thank you, cliar Max in Wellington. 411 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 15: Morning, Max, good morning, No such praise for you, but 412 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 15: no no sicker fancy here. 413 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 3: We haven't planned for Andrew little for the city. 414 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 15: Yeah, the mayor has laid out his council's key commitments 415 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 15: for the term a head projects being paused. We already 416 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 15: know the snake away rollouts on Hold Golden Mile basically 417 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 15: on hold. It's trying to make the city more of 418 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 15: affordable and reader arect spending away from the luxuries. We 419 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 15: are planting a lot of trees. Actually I'm not sure 420 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 15: you'd call that luxuries, but three hundred thousand native trees 421 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 15: and plants, a weekly cap on public transport fares. Those 422 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 15: just rose here last week by about three percent. Nothing 423 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 15: specific on rates and rates rises which have gone up 424 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 15: astronomically here. That'll come in a separate plan. Apparently Andrew 425 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 15: Little also wants a law change to allow the Crown 426 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 15: to pay rates on land it owns. So we'll see 427 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 15: how far that goes. A few of the more conservative counselors, 428 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 15: like Ray Chung wants spending cut further. Before they agree. 429 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 15: We'll see how the vote pans out next Thursday. 430 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 3: Indeed, how's your winner? 431 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 15: Rubbish cloudy showers very strong biting southerly's as well at 432 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 15: high thirteen. 433 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 3: Thank you, Max Nava, good morning, good morning. So what 434 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 3: do you got in the city cinder for us? 435 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 14: What does this good news actually? So support being rolled out? 436 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 14: This is with the small music and comedy venues here 437 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 14: in Auckland City Center, looking to help develop the local artists. 438 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 14: So the Spark Arena Community Events Funding pilot program, now 439 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 14: we know today it's going to provide one hundred thousand dollars. 440 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 14: This is going to go for equipment such as microphone 441 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 14: package and professional DJ gear. Live Nation Managing Director, that's 442 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 14: Mark Kneebone. He says it's going to help in sure 443 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 14: the local artists can develop right here, right here, I say, 444 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 14: in Auckland. And he's saying that it's about protecting, you know, 445 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 14: places that generate local talent like Whammy and the Kasach 446 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 14: Comedy Club. And you know, he's saying, look if we 447 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 14: lose those venues and we lose the art form and 448 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 14: all of those local artists coming through like Teakson, Lord 449 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 14: and all the big names. 450 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: All right, sounds good, sounds like something that probably should 451 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 3: be done. 452 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: How's our weather? 453 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 6: Fine? 454 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 9: Strong? 455 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 14: Southwesterlies a little bit cooler today. Nineteen is the hi 456 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 14: though here in Auckland, brilliant. 457 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: Never think you have a great morning eighteen minutes away. 458 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: From six Bryan Bridge. 459 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 3: Just there's loads of texts on the AI. I'll get 460 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 3: to those in a second, But I like this one 461 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 3: that's coming this morning from you. Haven't our John Ryan? 462 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: Is all this tough guy talk from American politicians starting 463 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 3: to grate on you. Yet they all sound like they 464 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,239 Speaker 3: want to be in an action movie. Haven't listened? This 465 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 3: is peaked headset from earlier. 466 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 4: Turns out the regime who chanted death to America and. 467 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: Death to Israel was gifted. 468 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 4: Death from America and death from Israel. This is not 469 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 4: a so called regime change war, but the regime sure 470 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 4: did change and the world is better off for it. 471 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is grating me, John, I do I hear you, 472 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 3: I understand you, and I agree with you. Interestingly that 473 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: you mentioned, you know, action movie heroes. Trump apparently gave 474 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 3: the military officials the signal to go ahead with the 475 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 3: operation in Iran on Friday afternoon local time. He was 476 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 3: a board Air Force one. He was heading to Texas. 477 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 3: Also on board at that time Senator Ted Cruz, another 478 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 3: couple of senators, and an actor by the name of 479 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: Dennis Quaid, you know Deni Quaid fly to the Phoenix, 480 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 3: but also, perhaps ominously, the day after tomorrow used talks. 481 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: Bibe international correspondence with ends in eye insurance, peace of 482 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand. 483 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 3: Business fourteen to six will hit to the US shortly 484 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 3: on the Middle East, but to Australia first torrential rain 485 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 3: across central Australia and there's now a state of emergency there. Leslie, 486 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 3: Yeomans are correspondent, Leslie, Yes. 487 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 16: Good morning, Ryan. Yes, the torrential rain is right and 488 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 16: the state of emergency has been declared by the NT government. 489 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 16: We've had road closures, school closures, we've got people having 490 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 16: to sand bag their homes and their businesses. We've got 491 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 16: roads washed out and large large areas just covered in 492 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 16: water after all this torrential rain, and the one I 493 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 16: guess positive thing is that it's brought a lot of 494 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 16: the BirdLife and the wildlife back, and people are sort 495 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 16: of hoping too that once, once some of the roads 496 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 16: are open, that the tourists will be able to get 497 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 16: in and sort of benefit from seeing all this new 498 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 16: wildlife and BirdLife. 499 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 3: Now, the farmers there are wanting to follow the UK 500 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 3: Cuitain and bring in some labeling laws to stop those 501 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 3: pisky oat milks from calling themselves touch. 502 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 16: Yes, I don't know if you get confused when you 503 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 16: go to buy your milk, but some people, some people 504 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 16: seem to think that it's confusing when you're buying milk, 505 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 16: that if you buy you don't know whether you're buying 506 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 16: cow milk, goat milk, or milk that's produced by almonds 507 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 16: and oats. So the Australian dairy farmers are wanting to 508 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 16: follow in the footsteps of UK dairy farmers and also 509 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 16: EU and US farmers. Now they have. The UK Supreme 510 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 16: Court just a couple of months ago actually ruled that 511 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 16: a Swedish firm Oatly can't sell oat milk and label 512 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 16: it oat milk in the UK. They have to label 513 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 16: it as something else. So the Australian dairy farmers are 514 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 16: wanting the same labeling new labeling laws. They don't want 515 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 16: people confused when they're heading off to the supermarket to 516 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 16: buy their milk. They want them to make sure that 517 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 16: they can buy animal based milk, not nut based milk. 518 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 3: All right, fair enough, they'll make the distinction. And our 519 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 3: heads are spinning it the supermarket, don't they. Leslie Lovely 520 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 3: to chat is always Leslie Yeomans our Australia correspondent. It 521 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 3: is twelve away from six Ryan Bridge. So Trump's about 522 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 3: to speak. We'll bring you that, well, Mike might when 523 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 3: he does run targeting Saudi oil refineries. Overnight tank is 524 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 3: being hit trying to enter the strait of him. Was 525 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 3: Lebanon the latest battleground his buller israeled a trading strikes. 526 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 3: Here's Pete Higgs seth. 527 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 4: If you kill Americans, if you threaten Americans anywhere on Earth, 528 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 4: we will hunt you down without apology and without hesitation, 529 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 4: and we will kill you. 530 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 3: So what's the end? Where does it end? Is the question. 531 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 3: Matthew Schmidt, Director of International Affairs, national security expert, and 532 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 3: you have in University with US Live this morning. Matthew, 533 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 3: Welcome to the program. 534 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 2: Hi Ryan, thanks to be here. 535 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 3: I know that you have your brief across not only 536 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 3: the leadership in Iran but also the weapons. So when 537 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 3: does the scene how does the scene? 538 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 10: In your view, Matthew, you have to think of Iran 539 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 10: right now as sort of a late stage, you know, 540 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 10: autocracy that's coming apart, and you end up. 541 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 9: With sort of three basic groups. You've got the security services, 542 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 9: the upper ranks were devastated in the first wave of 543 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:46,239 Speaker 9: the attack, the IRGC, the Iola Kamemi, his son is 544 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 9: connected to the IRGC and stands as a possible successor, 545 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 9: although his own father said and Shia Islam sort of 546 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 9: pushes against the idea of hereditary succession, so there's there's 547 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 9: a bit of a problem. On the other side, you 548 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 9: have the founder's grandson, Hassan Komeni, who positions himself sort 549 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 9: of as a martyrate, who is someone that may be 550 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 9: able to come in and say, look, we can salvage 551 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 9: the Islamic Republic as an Islamic republic. 552 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 3: And looks like we just completely lost Matthew, which is 553 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 3: a real shame because he has fantastic and fascinating things 554 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: to say. He does have numbers, So the war likely 555 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 3: to shift to Iran's drone capabilities next, because you look, 556 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 3: I many people have talked about boots on the ground, 557 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 3: as boots on the ground actually as relevant these days. 558 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 3: Look at what's happening in Ukraine. He says, the stockpile 559 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 3: of drones there could be as high as eighty thousand, 560 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 3: and those drones are good. He's back with us now, Matthew, 561 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 3: I'll let you finish. 562 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 563 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 9: So I think it was on Hormenia's grandson. So he's 564 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 9: a martyr candidate that could sort of bridge things. And 565 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 9: then you have the question of some sort of democratic revolution, right, 566 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 9: And the name that we all know in the West 567 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 9: is Reza Palavi, the son of the late Shaw, and 568 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 9: he's got a lot of support, but he also has 569 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 9: a lot of detractors inside Iran and a lot of 570 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 9: people who are simply saying you haven't lived here, you 571 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 9: don't know society. And there are different groups. There's a 572 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 9: student group, there's labor groups in Iran, but there's no 573 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 9: one really emerging as a leader on the ground in Iran. 574 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 9: And that's the real question. So my money right now 575 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 9: is on the IRGC consolidating control for the moment. And 576 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,239 Speaker 9: the problem with the democratic groups is is right now, 577 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 9: they're just trying to save their kids from the bombs, 578 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 9: right pick them up from school, get them to somewhere safe, 579 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 9: and nobody's really out in the streets. 580 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 3: Yet, Matthew will leave it. They appreciate your time this morning. 581 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 3: Sorry about that dodgy line. That's said doctor Matthew Schmidt, 582 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 3: who's National Security University of new in the United States. 583 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 3: What he also points out is the stockpile of drones there, 584 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 3: as I said, could be eighty thousand, and then you 585 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 3: look at the fact that they can quickly and at 586 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 3: very low costs produce about four hundred more a day. 587 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 3: And then Israel's you know the iron dome that they've got, well, 588 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 3: the iron Dome interceptions run it about a million dollars. 589 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 3: Your drones run it at about twenty five thousand. Dollars. 590 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 3: So how how many intercepts do you do for such 591 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 3: cheap toys that have been thrown at your country that 592 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: can be deadly? Nine nine two. The number to text 593 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 3: it is eight to six micers with your. 594 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: Next the first word on the News of the day 595 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and one roote love where 596 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: you live? 597 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 2: News talks that'd be. 598 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 3: It's six to six news talks, they'd be. So Iran 599 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 3: was producing one point six million barrels of oil a day. 600 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 3: That's ninety percent of it going to China, so China 601 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 3: takes the lion's share of it. Does that put China 602 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 3: in a tight spot if they don't have access to 603 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 3: it because it's all sitting on the water, or can't 604 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 3: go anywhere. The answer is no, because China is smart 605 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 3: and they've been stockpiling and they have one point five 606 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 3: billion barrels of strategic petroleum reserves, enough to cover around 607 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 3: two hundred days of oil imports. So there you go, 608 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 3: don't worry about China. Five to six plan, Good morning, 609 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 3: Mike morning. 610 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 17: I was in a wheel shop yesterday and I saw 611 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 17: a machine that was made in Ukraine and it's a 612 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 17: cold welding machine. This is apparently cutting edge technology is 613 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 17: just listening to your drone thing that the Ukrainians and 614 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 17: their ingenuity must not be underestimating. 615 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 3: Fascinating. 616 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 17: And this cold welding thing revolutionizes welding because of course, 617 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 17: traditionally welding tends to be a bit hot. So if 618 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 17: you can do it cold, and this was just a 619 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 17: little machine, like a little box, you wouldn't look at it. 620 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 17: Twice made in Ukraine, invented in Ukraine, and you cold 621 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 17: weld now, so it revolutionizes the ability to mess with 622 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 17: cars and metal and alloy en like that. 623 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're drone factories over there. Have you seen those 624 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 3: on YouTube? Literally Mum and dad putting them together by hand. 625 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 3: They've got machines doing it now. And their ambassador was 626 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 3: over here not long. It's been over a couple of 627 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 3: times now, basically trying to sell us their drones, which 628 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 3: we should probably. 629 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 17: We've got the Towering Company which is doing the opposite, 630 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 17: of course and selling it to the British and they're 631 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 17: apparently very successful. 632 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 3: Tomorrow. 633 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 17: Oh really yeah, got nice nice nice teeth nic Australia. 634 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 3: You've opened the door. 635 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 17: Fantastic, You know, what do you say? 636 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 3: At least ye? Kay? We've just been talking about our 637 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 3: photo shoot tomorrow. Yes, So my argument is, why would 638 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 3: you have a photo shoot when we're going to look 639 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 3: worse than we would have looked in the previous photo shoots, 640 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 3: which were taken when we were all younger. 641 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 17: That's really more your issue than mine, for fairly obvious reasons. 642 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 17: But I mean, just generally, why would you, why would 643 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 17: you why would you not just AI at computer drive it. 644 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 3: Let's say it just save, touch you up? You know? Yeah, 645 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 3: all right, some of some of that stuff that's but 646 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 3: you say, probably fifty grand I reckon, what are they thinking? 647 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 6: Let's put it at the boss? 648 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 3: All right? Okay, Mike is with your next News Talks. 649 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 3: It'd be. 650 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 2: For more from Early edition with Ryan Bridge. 651 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: Listen live to News Talks it'd be from five am weekdays, 652 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio