1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Teams podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from news talks, they'd be. 3 00:00:12,773 --> 00:00:14,573 Speaker 2: Fourteen to eleven non news talks, there'd be time to 4 00:00:14,573 --> 00:00:17,893 Speaker 2: get up with their personal finance expert. Ed McKnight from 5 00:00:17,933 --> 00:00:19,893 Speaker 2: Opie's Partners is here this morning. Get a Ed. 6 00:00:20,253 --> 00:00:21,933 Speaker 3: Great to be here, Jack this morning. 7 00:00:22,173 --> 00:00:25,373 Speaker 2: You have for us advice on choosing the right type 8 00:00:25,413 --> 00:00:28,093 Speaker 2: of financial advisor and let me guess. Let me guess 9 00:00:28,533 --> 00:00:31,173 Speaker 2: the right type of financial advisor is called Ed McKnight 10 00:00:31,253 --> 00:00:32,373 Speaker 2: and works for OPI's Partners. 11 00:00:32,813 --> 00:00:35,533 Speaker 3: Well, definitely not, because I'm not actually a financial advisor. 12 00:00:35,573 --> 00:00:38,893 Speaker 3: I'm just a lowly economist. Jack. Well, this is critical. 13 00:00:39,053 --> 00:00:41,973 Speaker 2: It is critical, right because people can with the terms. 14 00:00:42,013 --> 00:00:44,733 Speaker 2: It's kind of like the difference between psychologists and psychiatrists. 15 00:00:44,773 --> 00:00:46,573 Speaker 2: People can get a bit confused sometimes. 16 00:00:47,013 --> 00:00:49,973 Speaker 3: Well, it is important because sometimes people email men say Ed, 17 00:00:50,013 --> 00:00:53,053 Speaker 3: can I get your advice about my situation? And I 18 00:00:53,173 --> 00:00:56,093 Speaker 3: say no, because I'm not qualified to. I can tell 19 00:00:56,093 --> 00:00:57,853 Speaker 3: you what's happy with the economy. But to find a 20 00:00:57,853 --> 00:01:00,533 Speaker 3: financial advisor, you've got to start by asking, well, what 21 00:01:00,693 --> 00:01:03,813 Speaker 3: type of financial advisor you are after? Yeah, because it's 22 00:01:03,813 --> 00:01:05,773 Speaker 3: a bit confusing in New Zealand, so they all call 23 00:01:05,813 --> 00:01:09,613 Speaker 3: themselvesinancial advisors, but there are effectively five different types. You've 24 00:01:09,613 --> 00:01:12,093 Speaker 3: got mortgage advisors who help you get a home loan. 25 00:01:12,413 --> 00:01:15,613 Speaker 3: You've got insurance advisors who will sort out your house 26 00:01:15,773 --> 00:01:19,853 Speaker 3: insurance or your life insurance. We've got investment advisors. These 27 00:01:19,893 --> 00:01:22,653 Speaker 3: are people who help you out with shares and funds. 28 00:01:22,933 --> 00:01:26,173 Speaker 3: Then you've got property investment advisors who help you with 29 00:01:26,213 --> 00:01:28,973 Speaker 3: property investment. And then you've got people who specialize in budgeting. 30 00:01:29,253 --> 00:01:31,733 Speaker 3: And the really confusing thing in New Zealand is all 31 00:01:31,773 --> 00:01:35,293 Speaker 3: of these are legally financial advisors, and they should call 32 00:01:35,333 --> 00:01:39,253 Speaker 3: themselves financial advisors, but they each specialize in one different thing. 33 00:01:39,333 --> 00:01:43,413 Speaker 3: There aren't many all rounders in New Zealand who will 34 00:01:43,453 --> 00:01:45,533 Speaker 3: do every single one of these things because they're actually 35 00:01:45,613 --> 00:01:47,813 Speaker 3: quite complicated. So the first thing you've got to do 36 00:01:47,933 --> 00:01:50,253 Speaker 3: is be like, Okay, if I want to be better 37 00:01:50,293 --> 00:01:52,653 Speaker 3: with money, what does that mean. Well, if you're trying 38 00:01:52,653 --> 00:01:55,213 Speaker 3: to buy a house, you probably talk to a mortgage advisor. 39 00:01:55,533 --> 00:01:57,853 Speaker 3: If you're worried about the risk that you get sick 40 00:01:57,933 --> 00:01:59,693 Speaker 3: and won't be able to earn an income, you go 41 00:01:59,733 --> 00:02:02,133 Speaker 3: and talk to an insurance advisor. But there's the first 42 00:02:02,133 --> 00:02:02,733 Speaker 3: step that you. 43 00:02:02,693 --> 00:02:06,053 Speaker 2: Go for yeah, okay, that's a very good point. Five. 44 00:02:06,413 --> 00:02:09,133 Speaker 2: And they can all call themselves financial advisors quite a 45 00:02:09,133 --> 00:02:12,333 Speaker 2: few ways. So if you work out exactly what you 46 00:02:12,413 --> 00:02:14,533 Speaker 2: need to prioritize, so whether or not you're looking for 47 00:02:14,693 --> 00:02:19,573 Speaker 2: investment advice, property investment advice, insurance advice, etc. Then you 48 00:02:20,133 --> 00:02:21,413 Speaker 2: work things down to a short list. 49 00:02:22,053 --> 00:02:24,053 Speaker 3: That's the main thing. And you don't want to just 50 00:02:24,933 --> 00:02:28,093 Speaker 3: go to one and think, yep, they'll be okay. So 51 00:02:28,133 --> 00:02:30,373 Speaker 3: I always said to people, create a short list of 52 00:02:30,613 --> 00:02:34,133 Speaker 3: three names maximum. And the reason is that if you 53 00:02:34,173 --> 00:02:36,493 Speaker 3: try and create a list of ten people that you're 54 00:02:36,493 --> 00:02:39,453 Speaker 3: going to really do some due diligence on and check out, 55 00:02:39,653 --> 00:02:42,093 Speaker 3: it's just going to be too many. In all likelihood 56 00:02:42,133 --> 00:02:44,213 Speaker 3: you're probably not going to do anything at all. But 57 00:02:44,293 --> 00:02:46,453 Speaker 3: I think don't do one, don't do ten. Three is 58 00:02:46,493 --> 00:02:49,853 Speaker 3: a really good number. Now, in terms of creating that shortlist, 59 00:02:49,893 --> 00:02:51,853 Speaker 3: my favorite thing is just to go to Google and 60 00:02:51,893 --> 00:02:53,453 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what to look for in a second. 61 00:02:53,493 --> 00:02:56,293 Speaker 3: But I also know people talk to chat, GPT, get 62 00:02:56,293 --> 00:02:59,493 Speaker 3: recommendations from friends, but also get recommendations from maybe an 63 00:02:59,533 --> 00:03:02,413 Speaker 3: advisor you're already using. The only thing I'd say about 64 00:03:02,453 --> 00:03:06,093 Speaker 3: getting a recommendation from an advisor you already use. Is 65 00:03:06,093 --> 00:03:09,933 Speaker 3: that a lot of advisors will have referral relationships. So 66 00:03:09,973 --> 00:03:11,973 Speaker 3: if you go to a mortgage advisor that you like, 67 00:03:12,053 --> 00:03:14,373 Speaker 3: you say, who should I use for insurance and investments, 68 00:03:14,613 --> 00:03:17,053 Speaker 3: They'll probably tell you to use the same person who 69 00:03:17,093 --> 00:03:20,333 Speaker 3: sends them business back. And so that you're not necessarily 70 00:03:20,373 --> 00:03:23,373 Speaker 3: getting the best person, you're getting somebody who they are 71 00:03:23,453 --> 00:03:24,013 Speaker 3: mates with. 72 00:03:24,573 --> 00:03:24,733 Speaker 1: You know. 73 00:03:24,813 --> 00:03:28,453 Speaker 3: Cred a. Head to Google, check out top financial advisors, 74 00:03:28,773 --> 00:03:30,933 Speaker 3: create a little shortlist, and then you can really dig 75 00:03:30,973 --> 00:03:33,893 Speaker 3: into research. And when I say research, I'm not just 76 00:03:33,933 --> 00:03:37,093 Speaker 3: talking about going to their website and seeing do they 77 00:03:37,133 --> 00:03:40,213 Speaker 3: have pretty pictures or not? Or do I like the 78 00:03:40,293 --> 00:03:43,453 Speaker 3: colors on the website. I think there are five things 79 00:03:43,493 --> 00:03:45,693 Speaker 3: that you should look at, but the most important one 80 00:03:46,093 --> 00:03:48,653 Speaker 3: is something that your eyes will glaze over at. It's 81 00:03:48,693 --> 00:03:53,573 Speaker 3: called a disclosure statement. Now legally, legally, every financial advisor 82 00:03:53,573 --> 00:03:56,253 Speaker 3: in the country must have a disclosure statement on their website. 83 00:03:56,253 --> 00:03:59,053 Speaker 3: Now you might be like, oh, ed, what does that mean. 84 00:03:59,293 --> 00:04:02,333 Speaker 3: Isn't that interesting? Well, it's very important because a lot 85 00:04:02,453 --> 00:04:05,893 Speaker 3: of financial advisors in New Zealand won't charge your feet. Instead, 86 00:04:05,933 --> 00:04:09,453 Speaker 3: they'll earn commission, maybe from the bank. If you decide 87 00:04:09,453 --> 00:04:11,773 Speaker 3: to get a mortgage from them, or from an insurance 88 00:04:11,813 --> 00:04:14,573 Speaker 3: company if you decide to get insurance from them, And 89 00:04:14,693 --> 00:04:18,413 Speaker 3: on that disclosure statement it must say how the advisor 90 00:04:18,493 --> 00:04:22,613 Speaker 3: is paid, any conflicts of interests, what services they provide, 91 00:04:22,853 --> 00:04:25,333 Speaker 3: and which product providers they use, whether it's banks or 92 00:04:25,333 --> 00:04:28,133 Speaker 3: insurance companies. Now you might decide that, actually, I want 93 00:04:28,133 --> 00:04:30,173 Speaker 3: to use a mortgage advisor who's got as many banks 94 00:04:30,213 --> 00:04:32,533 Speaker 3: as possible. Or you might say, well, why is it 95 00:04:32,613 --> 00:04:35,693 Speaker 3: that this insurance advisor is only using one insurance company. 96 00:04:35,933 --> 00:04:38,533 Speaker 3: That means that they can't really give me advice about 97 00:04:39,173 --> 00:04:41,613 Speaker 3: the best insurance company for me or the right one. 98 00:04:41,733 --> 00:04:45,693 Speaker 3: So definitely head to the disclosure statement on their website 99 00:04:45,813 --> 00:04:48,453 Speaker 3: and also make sure you're checking out they can they 100 00:04:48,653 --> 00:04:52,733 Speaker 3: prove their expertise to me, So is there any content? 101 00:04:52,813 --> 00:04:55,093 Speaker 3: Are there any qualifications that tell me actually they are 102 00:04:55,133 --> 00:04:55,813 Speaker 3: good at their job? 103 00:04:56,253 --> 00:04:56,573 Speaker 1: Yeah? 104 00:04:56,613 --> 00:04:58,733 Speaker 2: Okay? And then from that point I guess your book 105 00:04:58,733 --> 00:05:00,293 Speaker 2: meetings and work out if it's the right fit. 106 00:05:00,973 --> 00:05:04,533 Speaker 3: Yeah, book three meetings. Figure out who's you respect enough 107 00:05:04,533 --> 00:05:06,613 Speaker 3: to give you good advice and who jells. 108 00:05:06,533 --> 00:05:08,453 Speaker 2: You're very good? Hey, thanks so much, Ed, have a 109 00:05:08,493 --> 00:05:10,493 Speaker 2: great weekend. We'll make sure All of it's tips are 110 00:05:10,573 --> 00:05:12,213 Speaker 2: up on the News Talks EDB website as well, so 111 00:05:12,253 --> 00:05:14,813 Speaker 2: you can work through them stage by stage. 112 00:05:14,853 --> 00:05:17,933 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 113 00:05:18,013 --> 00:05:21,333 Speaker 1: to Newstalks EDB from nine am Saturday, or follow the 114 00:05:21,373 --> 00:05:22,813 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio