1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Right, Barry, soap o seeing your political correspondence with me. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 2: Hey Barry, good afternoon, Heather. 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: So what do you make of the ban on genetic 4 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: engineering being lifted? I mean, would you have if I 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: had said this to you in twenty twenty two, that 6 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: we would lift it by twenty twenty four, would you 7 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: have expected an outcry? 8 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely? Well. You remember, way back when Helen Clark 9 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: was the Prime minister, there was corn Gate and that 10 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: was that lead came about by book with our old 11 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: mate Nicky Harga Seeds of Distrust, Seeds of Distrust, and 12 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: he claimed that in two thousand the Clark government had 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 2: tried to cover up a breach of the country's environmental 14 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: laws following the importation the accidental planting of thirty thousand 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: genetically modified sweet corn seeds. And I remember, you know, 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 2: at the time, this genetic modification thing was so big 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: in the psyche of New Zealand. It was scary. I 18 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: remember talking about two headed fish and how they'd be 19 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: much easier to carry. 20 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 21 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: I mean we were led to believe that life as 22 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: we know it was about to change. And now we 23 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: see Chris Luxon coming out today saying that the effect 24 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: of ban on gene editing would be scrapped by the 25 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: end of next year. And so well it should be 26 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: because you look at our crops, for example, we stop 27 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: cows from burping, you know, they've got to be genetically modified. Well, 28 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: I've got these scientists who should be able to look 29 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: at them to see how they can modify these crops 30 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: to stop that sort of thing. And that's just one 31 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: small example. But you can't stand in the way of science. 32 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: And even though twenty years ago the outcry was there, 33 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: I think people have probably just got used to the 34 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 2: fact that science does tr john and the country and 35 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: the environment as a result actually gets better. What about 36 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: nuclear power? That's the next thing. 37 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I just wonder if next time, like I 38 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: just wonder if if we can see now the ge 39 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: thing for what it was, which was largely media hysteria. 40 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: Oh totally, And maybe we're You've even got the Greens 41 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: now saying about the announcement today that they believe there 42 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: should be debate, robust public discussion. They said on it 43 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: now they would have been so well, I remember they 44 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: were so vehemently opposed to it in the day, but 45 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: now they're saying, okay, let's have a discussion about this. Well, 46 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: you know, it's taken a long time, but finally I 47 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 2: guess we've got there. 48 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: Have you watched the Donald Trump interview? 49 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: Oh well, I've spent far too much time listening to 50 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: it on Next Today. 51 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: Did you learn anything? 52 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: No, I didn't never learned Elon a good interviewer? Or 53 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: was he just he was just there singing Donald Trump's praise, 54 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: just a broman. And even though Donald Trump. I got 55 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: an email, of course, an hour before the interview from 56 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: Donald Trump saying that well it was twenty four hours. 57 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: It was yesterday, saying that it's twenty four hours until 58 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 2: the interview of the century. As he built it, he 59 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: says he's back on it for a short time. It's 60 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: the old Twitter with none other than Elon Musk. So 61 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: we and I've got to say, when I was listening 62 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: to it, there are a million people listening to it 63 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: at the time. But Donald Trump, he said, look, there 64 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: are great battles to come. And the selfless man told 65 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 2: Musk he's putting his country before himself. 66 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: I didn't need it. I had a nice life. I 67 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 3: have great locations. I have beautiful oceans that I have 68 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 3: places you know this was but I felt it was 69 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 3: important and if I had it, if I had to 70 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: do it over again, you probably think I'm crazy for 71 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 3: doing it actually, but if I had to do it 72 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 3: over again, I would have done it over again because 73 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: this is so much more important than me or my life. 74 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: This is we're going to save this country. This country 75 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: is going down and these people are bad people that 76 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: were running against and their liars. They make statements, they 77 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: they do things that are so bad. They say they're 78 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: going to make a strong border. They say they've been 79 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: great on the border, and they've been the worst in history. 80 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: So he would say that this election, and he did 81 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: say it in the interview, was the most important election 82 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: in the history of the world. In the world, yea, 83 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: the world. That's the most important election. 84 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: So listen. The reform of the Crown Maori Affairs Office, what. 85 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 3: Is this thing called? 86 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 2: What's it called tai okay not. 87 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: We were expecting a shutdown of the whole thing and 88 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: that hasn't happened. 89 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 2: Well. Speculation was certainly rife in the past week, and 90 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: I've been reading about it that the future of Tapuna, 91 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: Carkari and Ti raffiti was going to be merged one 92 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: to our raffiti would be folded into the Ministry of Justice, 93 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: to Punicoki would be allowed, but be peered back significantly. 94 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: We got a statement from Tama Portucker, the Minister today, 95 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: and I've got to say, reading towards the end of it, 96 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: I didn't quite understand what it was all about. But 97 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: they're not going to be merged. They're going to be Terrafiti. 98 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: It'll remain the department agency to continue its treaty of 99 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: our Tonguey settlements and Tapunakoku will advise the government on policy. 100 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: And he said support the acceleration of Murray economic development. 101 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: Well that's what they've been doing, Okay, So I don't 102 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: know why the announcement. 103 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: Yes today, Barry, thank you appreciate that. By the way, 104 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: it's called the MALDI Crown Relations Office. Barry Sooper, Senior 105 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: Political Corresponding. 106 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 3: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive listen live to 107 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 3: news talks. 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