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Speaker 2: Great New Zealand, and welcome to Met and Tyler Afternoons

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Speaker 2: Full Show Podcast number one O eight for the fourteenth

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Speaker 2: of eight pril It is a Monday and we have

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Speaker 2: a fantastic show. We'll give you the full list of

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Speaker 2: everything that you should know as an hour on your life.

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Speaker 2: We go deep into the new driver's license stuff. That

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Speaker 2: was a really really good chat and some shocking busking

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Speaker 2: stories from around the world. There's some terrible buskers out there,

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Speaker 2: but there's some good ones. Subscribe sit to download. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for listening. You're all a bunch of

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Speaker 2: great New Zealanders. Blessed, bless Please give the case to KIWI.

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Speaker 3: Love you all right, mate, Cedar Bark.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News

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Speaker 1: Talk said B.

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Speaker 3: Yes, good afternoon to you on this Monday afternoon. I

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Speaker 3: hope you're doing well.

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Speaker 4: We're ivy.

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Speaker 3: You're listening on the Country Ghetto Match.

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Speaker 2: Tyler good a. Everyone, Welcome to the show. All you're

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Speaker 2: great New Zealanders. Thanks for tuning, And can I just

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Speaker 2: put a PSA out there please, just a public service

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Speaker 2: and mountain it. We're a country that drives on the left,

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Speaker 2: so we're also a country that walks on the left.

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Speaker 2: I think people don't know that I did a huge

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Speaker 2: run on the weekend training for the marathon at the

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Speaker 2: end of the year, and the amount of people that

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Speaker 2: or a small path. So I don't think people are

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Speaker 2: being rude. No, I think just for everything to work,

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Speaker 2: people just need to remember that you work, walk tight

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Speaker 2: on the left side of the road, and then people

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Speaker 2: can pass you. It works out. It works brilliantly. And

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Speaker 2: like I get a tourists of this country, I'm not

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Speaker 2: just going to pile through them. I'm not just going

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Speaker 2: to plow through twenty five tourist because they're on the

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Speaker 2: wrong side of the road. I'm not that kind of guy.

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Speaker 2: But if I can sense that you've been in New

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good. I think it is kind of a key

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Speaker 3: we thing that we like to think we're right, But

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Speaker 3: I think we dig in when you know, if we're

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Speaker 3: the wee kind of shoulder rub.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, I think so, And look we You know,

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Speaker 2: I love my country. I love New Zealanders, but I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so just get out of meteath wave. If you

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Speaker 3: see them running, get the hell out of my way. PSA.

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Speaker 3: He done and dusted, right onto today's show What life

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Speaker 3: skills are essential to do. Mechanics are worried about the

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Speaker 3: general lack of knowledge of basic car maintenance. This is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a theory that we're getting more and

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Speaker 2: I'm more you and my dad can do all that

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Speaker 2: As if you're going to be a good parent, you've

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Speaker 3: Filid of fish, filid of fish, maybe that's kind of

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Speaker 3: But that is after three o'clock. After two o'clock buskers,

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Speaker 2: I think there's really really amazing buskers out there in

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Speaker 2: And I just wonder if there should be a minimum

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Speaker 2: I don't want to get into more regulations. Maybe there

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a great chat that is after

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Speaker 3: drivers licensed test. The government has proposed changes removing the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think the second test. Look, the second

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Speaker 2: fatal accidents, right, yeah, and the majority of those happened

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Speaker 2: I think that is the entire focus of it. Whether

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Speaker 3: The parallel parking? Yeah, I mean, look, yeah, important skill,

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Speaker 3: But is it going to keep you safe on the road.

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Speaker 2: I've seen you parallel park I can't believe it. You've

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Speaker 3: I've just got a button now in the car that

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Speaker 2: But I just don't think that sickond driver's license. No

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Speaker 2: one else in the world doesn't. Yeah, you've already proven

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Speaker 2: on that, and in my opinion, just somehow not the

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Speaker 2: just that needs to be the focus and part of

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Speaker 3: They used to and maybe they still do. Oh one

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Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. But

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Speaker 3: because let's be honest, it's mostly young male drivers here

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Speaker 2: To go again, just putting your boot into young men.

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Speaker 2: That's the entire focus of all media in this country. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: let's just keep it on all people.

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Speaker 3: All people. Yeah, well, okay, the female drivers love to

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Speaker 3: message generalizations here, but oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 2: How would you do that? Yeah, eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number. Call

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

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Speaker 3: It'd be good afternoon. We are talking about the proposed

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Speaker 3: changes to licensing systems. Effectively, one of the big changes

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Speaker 3: would get rid of the practical driving tests to progress

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Speaker 3: to a full license. That is in an effort to

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Speaker 3: streamline the process and to save people going through that

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Speaker 3: process quite a bit of money. Oh, eight hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number of.

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Speaker 2: Cours, Jason, welcome the show. You think this is a

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Speaker 2: crazy move?

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Speaker 6: Oh, look I do.

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Speaker 7: Look.

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Speaker 8: I draw the analogy that a new driver and a

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Speaker 8: an open road, in my opinion, is equally as dangerous

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Speaker 8: as a firearms in the hand of a wrong person.

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Speaker 8: I mean that they both catasgraphic if things go wrong, right,

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Speaker 8: But listen, I think it's the same sort of process,

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Speaker 8: and they're obviously not going to dispense from your peeroge

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Speaker 8: you spend on a restricted license. It's just that last

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Speaker 8: stage to qualify or graduate to a full license. For me,

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Speaker 8: I think the sensible approach is really every single driver

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Speaker 8: do some form of defensive driving course.

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Speaker 8: Younger people have done it in order to cut down

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, absolutely so I can. But in order, I'm just

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Speaker 8: But you can get instructors who are more cautious than others.

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Speaker 2: And other countries overseas that they don't have the two tests.

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Speaker 2: They have the one practical test where in a real outlier.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, just like you've got to go through all the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic, Jason.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for you for a few texts coming through here. Guys.

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Speaker 3: I did the defensive driving course and it was fantastic.

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Speaker 3: And this one guy's New Zealand open roads are atrocious

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Speaker 2: I wonder if this is just spitballing a crazy idea,

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Speaker 3: I haven't thought not a silly idea. I would add

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Speaker 2: On a motorway.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's anywhere on the driving on the

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't include I wouldn't include the motorways in that,

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Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty c number to

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Speaker 10: The new prime minister is will us for nine billion

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Speaker 10: the new money for defense? What magic are you pulling

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Speaker 10: out of a hat to find that you're quite skeptical

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Speaker 10: about our whole Find your.

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Speaker 2: Books and they don't look good. No, look it is

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Speaker 10: What it means is that we understand what we've committed

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Speaker 10: then you're going to know, you know, I know that's brilliant.

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Speaker 2: You've actually wanted to do all of that defense You've.

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Speaker 10: Got your financial God bless you, and I hope you

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Speaker 3: ZB News Talks thereb it is twenty six past one,

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Speaker 3: and we're talking about these proposed changes to our licensed system.

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Speaker 3: One of the big changes is getting rid of the

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Speaker 2: And one of the things was saying this morning, because

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Speaker 2: across as inefficient, and you know, young people coming through

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Speaker 3: That's a good point. That's where it starts to go

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Speaker 2: And then so many pressons. I know so many people

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Speaker 2: Yesn't the second driving test, but before you go for

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Speaker 2: you must do exs at ours with professional driving course. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: That's you know, our roads are great here, but it's

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Speaker 2: Have you driven on the auto Bahn at all?

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Speaker 9: and my day to day work and obviously being on

437
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Speaker 9: the roadsoft and you can see the other drivers and

438
00:20:56,853 --> 00:20:59,893
Speaker 9: I've toned down a little bit as well. But it's

439
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Speaker 9: also I believe that kids these days gets really really

440
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Speaker 9: powerful cars. So you get a WRX SDI, you're talking

441
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Speaker 9: over three hundred great horse powers, right, And if as

442
00:21:14,333 --> 00:21:17,573
Speaker 9: a kid works on a very far for example down

443
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Speaker 9: here itself and believe it and at he works on

444
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Speaker 9: Verify for him to go and buy w r X

445
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Speaker 9: sick and hand that's cheap, you know, There's That's what

446
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Speaker 9: I mean. It would be great, as though would be

447
00:21:35,133 --> 00:21:37,493
Speaker 9: you have to go to a driving school and you

448
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Speaker 9: come buy anything with stupid amount of horsepower.

449
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Speaker 3: It does make sense. I mean I think they do

450
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Speaker 3: that with motorcycles down Alex. You know, you suddenly increase

451
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Speaker 3: your license and that means that you can have a

452
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Speaker 3: more powerful motorcycle.

453
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

454
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Speaker 9: Absolutely, and I believe that they should be the way

455
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Speaker 9: forward coming to Austria. That's also it was interesting my

456
00:22:00,893 --> 00:22:05,413
Speaker 9: uncle has about three different vehicles and he pays registration

457
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Speaker 9: and insurance on the high CC rating.

458
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Speaker 2: Oh right, okay, but he has.

459
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Speaker 9: Only one number plate because you can drive only one

460
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Speaker 9: vehicle at a time, and he moves to the number

461
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Speaker 9: plate of vehicle to vehicle. But you pay your insurance

462
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Speaker 9: and your essentially your road costs on the highest rating

463
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Speaker 9: that you have in your table.

464
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Speaker 2: Right, Thanks so much for your call, Alex.

465
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Speaker 3: I mean that kind of makes sense, doesn't it. I know,

466
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Speaker 3: we start getting into the realm of so the government

467
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Speaker 3: dictates what kind of car you've got.

468
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Speaker 2: But I would say you can create a whole lot

469
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Speaker 2: of carnage on the open road and are not very

470
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Speaker 2: powerful car. That's a very good point. I think it's

471
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Speaker 2: I think it's arguable. I think it's a mental thing.

472
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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

473
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Speaker 3: number to call. We're talking about these proposed changes to

474
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Speaker 3: the driver's license system. But how do you impart to

475
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Speaker 3: your kids? How to say safe behind the world love

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen. We're talking about these proposed

495
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Speaker 3: changes to the license system, but we've asked the question,

496
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Speaker 3: how do you impart to your children how to stay

497
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Speaker 3: safe behind the wheel? Love to hear from you on

498
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Speaker 3: Old one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: To welcome to the show.

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Speaker 13: Oh Cordua and curda koto kator cura. So can I

501
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Speaker 13: just say with a license, it's actually a privilege to

502
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Speaker 13: get a license, to hold a license.

503
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Speaker 7: It's not a right.

504
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Speaker 13: And I think sometimes people think, you know, they should

505
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Speaker 13: be given a license as long as they meet the criteria.

506
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Speaker 13: So I just want to say it's actually a privilege

507
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Speaker 13: to get a driver license. The other thing with rangata

508
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Speaker 13: or young people, you are saying, imagine if every high

509
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Speaker 13: school sixteen year old left secondary school with a learner license,

510
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Speaker 13: that would start their pathway towards getting their next license

511
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Speaker 13: and being becoming safe and responsible on the road. And

512
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Speaker 13: they could add that into the fees. I mean, that

513
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Speaker 13: would cut the cost back by ninety six dollars and

514
00:25:27,613 --> 00:25:29,933
Speaker 13: ten cents for a learner license, so.

515
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Speaker 2: You're suggesting you're suggesting like a compulsory driving class at high.

516
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Speaker 13: School absolutely, or a certificate. I think they can get

517
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Speaker 13: a creditation for their driver license NCEA credits. So every

518
00:25:46,173 --> 00:25:49,893
Speaker 13: sixteen year old that's in a learning environment that is

519
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Speaker 13: able to get their license would be a great start

520
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Speaker 13: in life for them for employment.

521
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Speaker 2: Do you agree that the biggest problem with because you

522
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Speaker 2: say getting a license is a privilege and sure, but

523
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Speaker 2: also the reason why we have our licensing is to

524
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Speaker 2: hopefully mitigate carnage on the roads. But do you think

525
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Speaker 2: the actual practical side of driving, in terms of being

526
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Speaker 2: able to drive a car and know the road rules

527
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Speaker 2: is the issue or do you think it's the attitude,

528
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Speaker 2: especially out on the open road. As I was saying before,

529
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Speaker 2: when I first started driving as a teenager, I thought

530
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Speaker 2: my job was to get to the front of the queue,

531
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Speaker 2: so I would wherever I was driving. I was absolute

532
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Speaker 2: more on shouldn't have been on the road. I'm ashamed

533
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Speaker 2: of it now, but I treated going between cities as

534
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Speaker 2: a race so I could pass the driving test. But

535
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Speaker 2: my attitude was completely wrong. So what do you think

536
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Speaker 2: is more important, the practical nature of driving or the attitude?

537
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Speaker 7: Well, okay, and look near Hockey.

538
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Speaker 13: I'm the same when I was younger and bulletproof and

539
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Speaker 13: all that, and then I realized full disclosure as a

540
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Speaker 13: qualified driving instructor, so I have an eye endorsement. Where's

541
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Speaker 13: a testing officer just saying earlier quarters were talking about

542
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Speaker 13: an instructor, but actually testing officers. So the differences obviously

543
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Speaker 13: one test and instructors teach. What I teach all my

544
00:27:17,173 --> 00:27:20,933
Speaker 13: students is to be safe, be responsible, and keep an

545
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Speaker 13: eye for everyone else on the road because unfortunately, you

546
00:27:24,213 --> 00:27:29,533
Speaker 13: have no control over other people's behavior. Yes, speed, following, distance,

547
00:27:29,573 --> 00:27:31,893
Speaker 13: all that stuff. You know, that's a given. We know that,

548
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Speaker 13: But the attitude is a huge part of it. And

549
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Speaker 13: I say to my students these these lessons aren't just

550
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Speaker 13: for a forty five minute restricted test or a twenty

551
00:27:41,533 --> 00:27:45,532
Speaker 13: minute full license test. These lessons are for life, and

552
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Speaker 13: you want to be a role model. You want to

553
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Speaker 13: be able to demonstrate stop means stop at a stop sign,

554
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Speaker 13: so indicate out.

555
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Speaker 7: So attitude is important.

556
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so too when we look at the licensing how

557
00:27:59,893 --> 00:28:05,213
Speaker 3: did you put it? The NZTA licensing drivers or instructors when.

558
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Speaker 7: We are so they're testing offices, forgive.

559
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Speaker 3: Me, testing officers. When you look at when you look

560
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Speaker 3: at the tests that they run for people to get

561
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Speaker 3: these full licenses, do you look at some of those

562
00:28:16,453 --> 00:28:20,453
Speaker 3: skills they teach and think maybe that is just a

563
00:28:20,453 --> 00:28:22,893
Speaker 3: bit over the top or those are not skills that

564
00:28:23,013 --> 00:28:25,053
Speaker 3: will keep them safe on the road. It might show

565
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Speaker 3: competence in actually operating a vehicle, but you know, parallel parking,

566
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Speaker 3: for example, or health starts, some of those things that

567
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Speaker 3: may you know that is time that you could be

568
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Speaker 3: putting towards some of the stuff you're teaching the kids.

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Speaker 13: Well, may I say a lot of those things that

570
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Speaker 13: you mentioned are but kay it now, because.

571
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Speaker 7: I don't believe they do. He'll start now.

572
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Speaker 3: Because I got my license.

573
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Speaker 13: Yeah no, but pretty much your undives, automatics on three

574
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Speaker 13: point trens, reverse parallel parks. I understand it's in their

575
00:28:59,853 --> 00:29:03,173
Speaker 13: operating manual. Two tick boxes and that's what it's about.

576
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Speaker 13: And testing officers and I say this, we're all honesty

577
00:29:07,973 --> 00:29:11,853
Speaker 13: there to fail people. They are there to tick the

578
00:29:11,893 --> 00:29:14,253
Speaker 13: boxes to see people are ticking their mirror and mirror

579
00:29:14,253 --> 00:29:18,493
Speaker 13: blind spot, watching their speed following distance. The testing officers

580
00:29:18,533 --> 00:29:23,013
Speaker 13: are just then wanting the applicant, the driver to be

581
00:29:23,093 --> 00:29:26,213
Speaker 13: safe and responsible out on the road. Now with the

582
00:29:26,253 --> 00:29:28,933
Speaker 13: full license test, I asked, why do we do hazard

583
00:29:28,973 --> 00:29:33,013
Speaker 13: identification and you're in a twenty minute full licensed test.

584
00:29:33,533 --> 00:29:37,133
Speaker 13: The answer, one of the answers was, when you have

585
00:29:37,213 --> 00:29:39,853
Speaker 13: a full license, you can have anyone in your vehicle

586
00:29:39,893 --> 00:29:43,613
Speaker 13: with you, so you're going to have distractions, people, babies,

587
00:29:44,053 --> 00:29:44,333
Speaker 13: you know.

588
00:29:44,373 --> 00:29:45,013
Speaker 9: Your mates.

589
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Speaker 13: So they want to see if you can multitask by

590
00:29:47,453 --> 00:29:50,613
Speaker 13: doing has IT identification that's at the same time of

591
00:29:50,813 --> 00:29:54,253
Speaker 13: driving to the road code. And I thought, oh, yeah,

592
00:29:54,333 --> 00:29:59,573
Speaker 13: that makes sense, So that's why they they graduate the

593
00:29:59,613 --> 00:30:03,333
Speaker 13: full license with has IT identification, but some of the

594
00:30:03,373 --> 00:30:07,813
Speaker 13: other things. Yeah, they probably could revise a whole graduate

595
00:30:07,893 --> 00:30:12,053
Speaker 13: driver a lot license program and make it affordable by

596
00:30:12,093 --> 00:30:14,453
Speaker 13: getting high school kids at least to get their license.

597
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

598
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Speaker 2: Well now currently now, currently it's about four hundred dollars

599
00:30:18,133 --> 00:30:22,613
Speaker 2: minimum to go through and get your license, so it

600
00:30:22,653 --> 00:30:25,133
Speaker 2: was already there's already quite a large amount of money

601
00:30:25,133 --> 00:30:27,973
Speaker 2: being spent in the system right now, even if you

602
00:30:28,013 --> 00:30:29,373
Speaker 2: don't have driving lessons.

603
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Speaker 11: Oh.

604
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Speaker 13: Absolutely, but then remember when Walker Cortai or sorry n

605
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Speaker 13: ZTA when they decided it one that fay it was

606
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Speaker 13: going to have a free researt and anyone just used

607
00:30:42,733 --> 00:30:46,573
Speaker 13: the practice as a listen or practice until they passed.

608
00:30:47,053 --> 00:30:51,773
Speaker 13: And then what normally took two through weeks of booking.

609
00:30:51,493 --> 00:30:52,853
Speaker 7: It was three months.

610
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Speaker 2: That was classical.

611
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Speaker 7: Not debarkle.

612
00:30:54,493 --> 00:30:57,613
Speaker 2: That was classic. Not thinking through what you're doing very

613
00:30:58,173 --> 00:31:01,373
Speaker 2: very well. That was unforeseen circumstances right there. What about

614
00:31:01,373 --> 00:31:04,133
Speaker 2: this though, too that I was thinking about and I'm

615
00:31:04,213 --> 00:31:08,733
Speaker 2: just spitballing it. But instead of instead of the practical test,

616
00:31:08,933 --> 00:31:10,733
Speaker 2: so you've done the practical test to get you restricted,

617
00:31:10,733 --> 00:31:13,053
Speaker 2: and then you've got these restrictions on, so you're driving

618
00:31:13,093 --> 00:31:14,973
Speaker 2: around for a certain period of time whatever that is.

619
00:31:15,013 --> 00:31:18,933
Speaker 2: And then maybe instead of a practical test, then you're

620
00:31:18,973 --> 00:31:22,733
Speaker 2: having some kind of lesson again, an intense lesson. You're

621
00:31:22,773 --> 00:31:25,173
Speaker 2: getting out on the open road with with someone like

622
00:31:25,213 --> 00:31:29,333
Speaker 2: yourself who puts you through the actual importance of things.

623
00:31:29,373 --> 00:31:31,933
Speaker 2: They're not testing you, they're not ticking a box. They're

624
00:31:31,973 --> 00:31:35,093
Speaker 2: going through what you need to be a good driver

625
00:31:35,293 --> 00:31:37,133
Speaker 2: and maybe put the fear of God into you about

626
00:31:37,133 --> 00:31:40,373
Speaker 2: the consequences of driving badly. And this is your last

627
00:31:40,893 --> 00:31:43,093
Speaker 2: sort of last thing before you go out and you're

628
00:31:43,133 --> 00:31:45,333
Speaker 2: on your own, and it's and it's it's more a

629
00:31:45,413 --> 00:31:47,053
Speaker 2: learning thing than a testing thing.

630
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Speaker 13: Yep, yeah, yeah, Look, I mean, let's be honest with

631
00:31:51,453 --> 00:31:55,333
Speaker 13: bloody scary out there on the road as a driving instructor. Yeah,

632
00:31:55,373 --> 00:31:57,493
Speaker 13: you know, because I'm doing the speed limit and anyone's

633
00:31:57,573 --> 00:31:59,333
Speaker 13: right up my normal they ride up.

634
00:32:01,053 --> 00:32:03,253
Speaker 7: Thirty means thirty and I'm doing thirty.

635
00:32:03,733 --> 00:32:04,053
Speaker 6: Yes.

636
00:32:04,173 --> 00:32:06,053
Speaker 13: Then I know people say about what if there's no

637
00:32:06,173 --> 00:32:07,333
Speaker 13: road wrecks, name machinery.

638
00:32:07,373 --> 00:32:10,813
Speaker 7: Yeah, I get it, but it's still thirty. It's the law.

639
00:32:11,973 --> 00:32:14,053
Speaker 7: I think with a review, an.

640
00:32:13,933 --> 00:32:18,493
Speaker 13: Assessment of a driver that's been on the road that

641
00:32:18,573 --> 00:32:23,773
Speaker 13: would make would make good sense, doesn't necessarily have to

642
00:32:23,773 --> 00:32:26,973
Speaker 13: be with an I endorsed driving instructor, but just to

643
00:32:27,053 --> 00:32:32,373
Speaker 13: get them, make sure they are keeping compliant, keeping safe,

644
00:32:32,733 --> 00:32:38,613
Speaker 13: because this sixty hour supervisor supervisory condition is great. But

645
00:32:39,173 --> 00:32:42,133
Speaker 13: if you're learning bad habits of your parents, and I'll

646
00:32:42,173 --> 00:32:45,453
Speaker 13: be honest, I see it with my young students, I'm like,

647
00:32:45,533 --> 00:32:47,653
Speaker 13: why are you doing that? One does that? But dad

648
00:32:47,693 --> 00:32:51,133
Speaker 13: does that, or it's like we're all we're doing is

649
00:32:51,173 --> 00:32:57,613
Speaker 13: making them in driving too. They loom from their parents,

650
00:32:57,613 --> 00:33:01,413
Speaker 13: and I'm not disrespecting PRIs. But hey, our dad was terrible,

651
00:33:01,533 --> 00:33:04,773
Speaker 13: but we still love them.

652
00:33:05,093 --> 00:33:07,493
Speaker 3: Call to one hundred and eighteen eighty CE number. Call

653
00:33:07,573 --> 00:33:09,253
Speaker 3: it is quarter to two.

654
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Speaker 1: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

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Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams Afternoons news Talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be good afternoon, and we're talking about the proposed

657
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Speaker 3: changes to our license system. One of the big changes

658
00:33:23,253 --> 00:33:26,013
Speaker 3: was removing the practical driving test for a full license.

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Speaker 2: So two or saying before, it's not a right, it's

660
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Speaker 2: a privilege to get your driver's license, to have your

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00:33:31,653 --> 00:33:34,093
Speaker 2: driver's license. Hey guys, this Texas says it's actually a

662
00:33:34,173 --> 00:33:36,893
Speaker 2: right to hold a driver's license. It's like a passport.

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00:33:37,133 --> 00:33:39,253
Speaker 2: It's your right to hold a New Zealand passport. It's

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Speaker 2: a privilege to hold onto it. If you play by

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00:33:41,653 --> 00:33:44,533
Speaker 2: the rules, then it's not an issue. Young people are

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00:33:44,613 --> 00:33:47,213
Speaker 2: just that and they need time to learn. I believe

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00:33:47,213 --> 00:33:50,413
Speaker 2: the new rules being put in place adequate and they

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00:33:50,453 --> 00:33:54,293
Speaker 2: do not need to undertake a further test to achieve

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Speaker 2: their full license. That's from simon now. I just don't

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Speaker 2: see what the second test does. You've already proved they

671
00:34:01,053 --> 00:34:04,053
Speaker 2: know how to drive. But getting the restricted, the restricted

672
00:34:04,053 --> 00:34:05,333
Speaker 2: shows that you need to drive, and then you have

673
00:34:05,373 --> 00:34:09,253
Speaker 2: a restricted period of however long, and then and you

674
00:34:09,293 --> 00:34:11,812
Speaker 2: know they can change that more restrictions, whatever, and then

675
00:34:11,853 --> 00:34:14,373
Speaker 2: you should get, in my opinion, your driver's license, because

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Speaker 2: that isn't the difference between safety on the road and

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00:34:17,293 --> 00:34:21,173
Speaker 2: my opinion. And this that last lesson, that last practical

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00:34:21,213 --> 00:34:23,812
Speaker 2: test actually imparted more knowledge to you rather than someone

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00:34:23,853 --> 00:34:24,693
Speaker 2: coming around ticking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know, if it actually if they actually said do

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Speaker 2: this take out and road this what we do, it

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00:34:28,933 --> 00:34:33,533
Speaker 2: showed some implications maybe just you know, your eyes held

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00:34:33,533 --> 00:34:39,413
Speaker 2: open by matchsticks in a and showing horrific accidents on

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Speaker 2: the road or something sounds fun. Clock or Garran situation.

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Speaker 3: Rose, How were.

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Speaker 6: You, hi, guys?

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Speaker 3: Happy Monday, Happy Monday. What's your thoughts?

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Speaker 14: My thoughts are when I was in lunch, fire service

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Speaker 14: one of the and I went for my license to

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Speaker 14: drive their fire applian. You have to do a six

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00:35:03,093 --> 00:35:06,333
Speaker 14: hour student out on the road, so three hours on

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Speaker 14: the highway in three hours, the country, up country roads,

694
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Speaker 14: all sorts of places, and you had to do a

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00:35:13,853 --> 00:35:19,173
Speaker 14: twelve chicken scan on everything that was happening in some

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Speaker 14: of your twelve seconds. And by the time you get that.

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Speaker 15: And you get all your.

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Speaker 14: The twelve second rule, his steps in my head for

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Speaker 14: the rest of my life.

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Speaker 2: So took us through what that does exactly Rose right.

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Speaker 14: Twelve second rule is that you're looking at instead of

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Speaker 14: three seconds in front of you. Yep, you're looking you're

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Speaker 14: looking out at your twelve twelve seconds, so you know

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Speaker 14: exactly who's coming and where they've been, etcetera, etcetera. And

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Speaker 14: it is really interesting. But you've got to do in

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Speaker 14: your fire applnes three hours on the highway and three

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Speaker 14: hours on the country, and they put you in some

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Speaker 14: all sorts of sticky messes. But the twelve second rule,

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Speaker 14: it's a sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just sort of further to what you're saying there.

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Speaker 2: It is interesting that we do our driving tests essentially

712
00:36:20,453 --> 00:36:24,053
Speaker 2: around city streets when their most horrific things happen out

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00:36:24,093 --> 00:36:28,813
Speaker 2: on the open road. So more focused on teaching people

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Speaker 2: because you know you can. You can get your license

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Speaker 2: and you've never been on the open road before. Next

716
00:36:32,653 --> 00:36:35,453
Speaker 2: thing you know you've got it and you're heading between cities,

717
00:36:35,733 --> 00:36:38,813
Speaker 2: suddenly driving from Denean to crisis or something. We're terrible

718
00:36:38,853 --> 00:36:41,933
Speaker 2: things can happen. It seems to me that that's where

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Speaker 2: the focus of education should really really be, and it

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Speaker 2: sounds like the twelve second role is a good thing

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Speaker 2: that everyone should It's interesting to me that I'm only

722
00:36:51,573 --> 00:36:53,413
Speaker 2: hearing this for the first time. I've never heard it either,

723
00:36:53,613 --> 00:36:55,413
Speaker 2: big on the three second rule, but it does make

724
00:36:55,453 --> 00:36:57,253
Speaker 2: sense that you're looking at you know, you're traveling at

725
00:36:57,293 --> 00:36:59,893
Speaker 2: these insane speeds. It's the most dangerous thing you do

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Speaker 2: in your life. Pretty much.

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Speaker 8: Yep, yep, but I forgot.

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Speaker 14: I was going to say, went to twelve second rule.

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00:37:13,733 --> 00:37:17,213
Speaker 14: You're you're sc scanning everything in front of you even

730
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Speaker 14: get to walk across the road.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you for your call.

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Speaker 3: Roads twelve second rule. There you go.

733
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Speaker 2: Let's get into it.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Right, Oh, one hundred and eighteen eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call back very shortly here on news talks there

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Speaker 3: be there is eight to two.

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Speaker 1: Matd Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

739
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Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 1: Afternoons news talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be news talks, they'd be Matthew will get you

742
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Speaker 3: in just before the news.

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Speaker 6: Okay, We're live always, Yeah, we're live.

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Speaker 16: Okay, back dealts want to start lot? Will the junkie

745
00:37:50,613 --> 00:37:53,053
Speaker 16: want to be given a chance? Every single person who

746
00:37:53,053 --> 00:37:56,293
Speaker 16: goes to school, there's an exit strategy. It should be

747
00:37:56,373 --> 00:37:58,413
Speaker 16: free for a license for all the kids and get

748
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Speaker 16: them to do it. I mean, I actually think it's

749
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Speaker 16: it's a good idea to have it just one test.

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Speaker 16: I mean, I'm in the middle of a children's you know,

751
00:38:06,533 --> 00:38:08,573
Speaker 16: I'm trying. Number two is about for her life once

752
00:38:09,133 --> 00:38:11,613
Speaker 16: the problem is here, and Nelson the guy fails them left,

753
00:38:11,653 --> 00:38:14,013
Speaker 16: right and center. So everybody leaves town and does it

754
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Speaker 16: over and blend them or West Coast because they're knowne

755
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Speaker 16: for failing the kids here. So I think it's a

756
00:38:21,013 --> 00:38:22,773
Speaker 16: good idea. I think the best idea that came out

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Speaker 16: of a suggestion by the AA that they haven't app

758
00:38:25,213 --> 00:38:27,133
Speaker 16: they must do sixty hours of driving before they go

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Speaker 16: for the test. That's me is the most logical thing

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Speaker 16: to do as a father. I mean, let's make testing free.

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Speaker 16: Let's make it all free. We spend so much, we

762
00:38:36,733 --> 00:38:38,733
Speaker 16: don't need to spend twelve billion on defense. Let's put

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Speaker 16: that money towards the kids.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for your call Matthew.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that kind of makes a better of sense.

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Speaker 2: I mean it does. Think you do actually need to

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Speaker 2: be able to drive in society pretty much in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Oh certainly so if people having to spend four hundred

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00:38:50,693 --> 00:38:53,292
Speaker 2: bucks on it to get there. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Schools should probably be sending people out into the world

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Speaker 2: at seventeen eighteen years old with a driver's license.

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Speaker 3: Well the stat that surprised me around one million adults

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00:39:02,013 --> 00:39:04,053
Speaker 3: in New Zealand don't have a full license, and nearly

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Speaker 3: half of those have no license at all because it

775
00:39:06,693 --> 00:39:07,213
Speaker 3: is pretty.

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Speaker 2: Cool already know how to drive it, then they have

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00:39:08,373 --> 00:39:10,653
Speaker 2: to do another practical testy silly.

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Speaker 3: Exactly right. Great to have your company on this Monday

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Speaker 3: afternoon News, Sport and weather is on its way. You're

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Speaker 3: listening to Matt and Tyler. Very very good afternoon to.

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Speaker 4: You, talking with you all afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talks.

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Speaker 4: It be.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. Welcome back into the show.

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Speaker 3: Seven past two. Just before we move on to the

786
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Speaker 3: next topic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, we'll just put to bed this chat

788
00:39:52,173 --> 00:39:55,973
Speaker 2: we've had around the second practical driving tests that you

789
00:39:55,973 --> 00:39:57,493
Speaker 2: have to sit. You have to sit one when you're restricted,

790
00:39:57,533 --> 00:40:00,813
Speaker 2: and also to get your full license. Christopher Bishop is

791
00:40:00,893 --> 00:40:05,813
Speaker 2: suggesting we get rid of the second test because and look,

792
00:40:05,533 --> 00:40:08,053
Speaker 2: I think we should, but we've got a lot of

793
00:40:08,053 --> 00:40:11,453
Speaker 2: texts coming through that we thought we'd read out before

794
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Speaker 2: we move on to the next topic. Matt, You're a

795
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Speaker 2: hundred percent correct about bad driving being attitude. I do

796
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Speaker 2: it when young drivers like a man. When I was young,

797
00:40:19,173 --> 00:40:22,933
Speaker 2: I drive like a maniac in New Zealand. That's really

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Speaker 2: That's my point is you could be a very proficient

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Speaker 2: driver and you can pass your tests, as I did

800
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Speaker 2: when I got my driver's license. So I could do

801
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Speaker 2: all the practical stuff, tickle the boxes to pass the test.

802
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Speaker 2: But my mind wasn't right and so I was an

803
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Speaker 2: absolute dickhead on the road, which I'm ashamed of now

804
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Speaker 2: and put people at risk.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I treated driving between cities like a race, where everyone

807
00:40:44,933 --> 00:40:46,733
Speaker 2: in front of me was someone that I just needed

808
00:40:46,733 --> 00:40:50,133
Speaker 2: to pass as soon as I could, which was just idiotic. Now,

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Speaker 2: I shoved it in bruise control, lock myself to the

810
00:40:53,973 --> 00:40:56,613
Speaker 2: back of the car, and travel at the speed limit.

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Speaker 3: Keep it at forty nine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, how can you get my head

813
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Speaker 2: into the young person's brain? You just can't.

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00:41:01,853 --> 00:41:03,893
Speaker 3: I guess, Well, it's just time, isn't it. I think

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Speaker 3: most young drivers, And again I'm targeting me in here

816
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Speaker 3: because I was sexist. Yeah, well, because I'm a man myself,

817
00:41:10,253 --> 00:41:11,813
Speaker 3: and I was similar to you when I jumped into

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Speaker 3: a car. I was a bit reclose because I was

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Speaker 3: sixteen years old.

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Speaker 2: You're a self hating man.

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Speaker 3: It just takes time. But it's not to say I

822
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Speaker 3: don't think sixteen year old should start the license process.

823
00:41:22,213 --> 00:41:23,933
Speaker 3: I think that's the right age because that's when they

824
00:41:24,013 --> 00:41:27,013
Speaker 3: start in their careers and jobs and independence.

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Speaker 2: I think the more I think about it, I reckon

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Speaker 2: that that second thing shouldn't be a practical test. It

827
00:41:34,173 --> 00:41:39,013
Speaker 2: should be a learning situation where you are drilled into

828
00:41:39,053 --> 00:41:41,693
Speaker 2: you how dangerous it is on the open road, and

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Speaker 2: you're and you're taught defensive driving. You're taught a bunch

830
00:41:44,533 --> 00:41:45,813
Speaker 2: of things so that if you're going to if we're

831
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Speaker 2: gonna have to pay for the second one, you've already

832
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Speaker 2: shown you can drive. The second one should be should

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Speaker 2: be a teaching thing as opposed to a test.

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Speaker 3: And your idea about the open road license. Nobody hit

835
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Speaker 3: back on it, Nobody said it was a bad idea.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean because all the bad things that not

837
00:42:00,693 --> 00:42:02,253
Speaker 2: all the bad things that I don't mean that, but

838
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Speaker 2: the worst things happen on the open road that could

839
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Speaker 2: possibly happen, and that's very different type of drive and

840
00:42:06,653 --> 00:42:09,533
Speaker 2: then driving around town, isn't it exactly? So maybe that's

841
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Speaker 2: part of your restrictions until you can prove that you're

842
00:42:11,853 --> 00:42:12,813
Speaker 2: you know, you're responsible in.

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Speaker 3: The rope yep, great discussion. Thank you very much for

844
00:42:15,613 --> 00:42:18,013
Speaker 3: everyone who texts through and for the phone calls as well.

845
00:42:18,013 --> 00:42:21,493
Speaker 3: But let's have a chat about buskers. So buskers will

846
00:42:21,493 --> 00:42:24,453
Speaker 3: be banned from Leicester Square next week. This is in

847
00:42:24,493 --> 00:42:26,613
Speaker 3: the UK, of course, after a judge ruled they are

848
00:42:26,613 --> 00:42:30,853
Speaker 3: inflicting psychological torture on office workers in the area. So

849
00:42:30,933 --> 00:42:33,373
Speaker 3: the local council Westminster said it had been left with

850
00:42:33,493 --> 00:42:36,893
Speaker 3: no choice but to remove the street entertainment pictures in

851
00:42:36,933 --> 00:42:40,613
Speaker 3: the world famous tourist hot spot. So it follows global

852
00:42:40,693 --> 00:42:43,933
Speaker 3: radio so these have a bunch of radio stations as

853
00:42:44,013 --> 00:42:47,853
Speaker 3: they would, so they took the council to court over

854
00:42:47,893 --> 00:42:51,292
Speaker 3: that noise pollution from the buskers outside of the Leicester

855
00:42:51,333 --> 00:42:55,453
Speaker 3: Square officers. The station staff described being plagued by poor

856
00:42:55,533 --> 00:42:58,413
Speaker 3: quality musicians and said they had to wear headphones and

857
00:42:58,413 --> 00:43:02,093
Speaker 3: work from cupboards to escape the sound. So the District

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00:43:02,093 --> 00:43:05,893
Speaker 3: Court judge said, while the volume is the principal mischief,

859
00:43:06,093 --> 00:43:08,613
Speaker 3: it is clear that the nuance has made worse by

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Speaker 3: the repetition in poor quality on some of those buskets.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to hear people's opinion on this. A W

862
00:43:13,733 --> 00:43:16,293
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty ten eighty buskers should be a

863
00:43:16,293 --> 00:43:19,813
Speaker 2: minimum quality. You can't just grab an instrument and go

864
00:43:19,933 --> 00:43:24,093
Speaker 2: out there and blast it away, because as much as

865
00:43:24,293 --> 00:43:26,333
Speaker 2: you're not doing it's not a one for one business situation.

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Speaker 2: People can't hide from it. If you set up out

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Speaker 2: the front of a shop and just start blasting away

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00:43:30,693 --> 00:43:38,053
Speaker 2: your terrible, terrible noise, then that that's that's encroaching on

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00:43:38,093 --> 00:43:40,172
Speaker 2: so many other other people. So I think there needs

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Speaker 2: to be a be You need to be a decent

871
00:43:42,293 --> 00:43:43,533
Speaker 2: musician to be a busket.

872
00:43:43,893 --> 00:43:45,573
Speaker 3: So how would they would this be like an X

873
00:43:45,613 --> 00:43:49,333
Speaker 3: factor situation that you need to get Simon Kell down

874
00:43:49,373 --> 00:43:51,773
Speaker 3: here and say yep, you've got the you've got the

875
00:43:51,853 --> 00:43:53,893
Speaker 3: chops to be a busker on k road.

876
00:43:54,373 --> 00:43:57,053
Speaker 2: I just think of you. I don't know what the

877
00:43:57,053 --> 00:44:00,853
Speaker 2: practic practicalities of it was, but if someone's just an

878
00:44:01,053 --> 00:44:05,133
Speaker 2: objectively terrible busker, and look, I'm looking at the guy

879
00:44:05,173 --> 00:44:07,653
Speaker 2: in Queenstown that has this dog singing along with them.

880
00:44:07,933 --> 00:44:11,093
Speaker 2: That look, that dog's not singing, mate, that dog is yelping.

881
00:44:11,133 --> 00:44:13,533
Speaker 2: It's a horrible racket. That guy needs to be moved on.

882
00:44:14,453 --> 00:44:16,613
Speaker 3: I'm with you. I mean, the first time I saw him,

883
00:44:16,653 --> 00:44:18,813
Speaker 3: I thought, oh, this is cute, and that's exactly what

884
00:44:18,853 --> 00:44:21,173
Speaker 3: he wants. It's a tourist trap. But now every time

885
00:44:21,613 --> 00:44:24,172
Speaker 3: that dog just needs to shut up. It's a good dog. Yeah,

886
00:44:24,213 --> 00:44:24,453
Speaker 3: come on?

887
00:44:24,773 --> 00:44:27,213
Speaker 2: So, so how do you know? Are you a busker?

888
00:44:27,533 --> 00:44:30,053
Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty ten eighty Have you busked? And

889
00:44:30,373 --> 00:44:32,692
Speaker 2: do you how do you feel as a busker if

890
00:44:32,733 --> 00:44:35,693
Speaker 2: there's a rubbish busker taking up taking up a space?

891
00:44:36,413 --> 00:44:39,333
Speaker 2: Should there be regulations on buskers? Should be there a

892
00:44:39,373 --> 00:44:42,333
Speaker 2: minimum level that a busker is before they're allowed to perform?

893
00:44:42,413 --> 00:44:44,453
Speaker 3: How do you become a professional busker? Because I'm sure

894
00:44:44,453 --> 00:44:46,773
Speaker 3: there are professional buskers out there, and just hearing the

895
00:44:46,813 --> 00:44:48,533
Speaker 3: word professional, I think they're good.

896
00:44:48,653 --> 00:44:51,173
Speaker 2: You don't go to busker school. I mean you're professional

897
00:44:51,173 --> 00:44:52,493
Speaker 2: if you're traveling around getting paid to.

898
00:44:52,653 --> 00:44:54,533
Speaker 3: Get a degree to become at the busker.

899
00:44:54,733 --> 00:44:58,613
Speaker 2: But you can't be rubbish. And look before I said look,

900
00:44:58,613 --> 00:45:01,173
Speaker 2: there was a guy on kro that you should just

901
00:45:01,253 --> 00:45:03,413
Speaker 2: strummers guitar and never learned how to play his guitar

902
00:45:03,493 --> 00:45:06,413
Speaker 2: for years. Yeah, And someone came back to me and

903
00:45:06,453 --> 00:45:09,692
Speaker 2: said the busking guy and Queen Street. He was an

904
00:45:09,733 --> 00:45:12,732
Speaker 2: absolutely lovely guy, passed away a few years ago, still

905
00:45:12,773 --> 00:45:15,453
Speaker 2: without the ability to play a chord. Goes to show

906
00:45:15,733 --> 00:45:17,493
Speaker 2: you don't have to be great to be an entertainer.

907
00:45:17,533 --> 00:45:20,812
Speaker 2: That's from bears. See. As a guitarist, I walk past

908
00:45:20,853 --> 00:45:23,652
Speaker 2: every day and he was just strumming away. He wasn't

909
00:45:23,653 --> 00:45:26,653
Speaker 2: too loud though, to be fair, but I was like, mate,

910
00:45:26,933 --> 00:45:28,533
Speaker 2: just learn how to play your guitar. Did you mean

911
00:45:28,573 --> 00:45:30,653
Speaker 2: out that you've been out there for so long, surely

912
00:45:30,693 --> 00:45:32,413
Speaker 2: you could just learn a couple of chords, Just learn

913
00:45:32,893 --> 00:45:34,693
Speaker 2: a couple of two chord songs.

914
00:45:35,213 --> 00:45:37,133
Speaker 3: Did you ever think to sit down and say, mate,

915
00:45:37,133 --> 00:45:38,693
Speaker 3: I'm just going to show you here, so this is

916
00:45:38,733 --> 00:45:41,453
Speaker 3: cool to see. This is called to d and here's

917
00:45:41,453 --> 00:45:43,213
Speaker 3: a couple of songs you can play. Just do the

918
00:45:43,253 --> 00:45:44,933
Speaker 3: world of favor in Queen Street of Favor.

919
00:45:45,253 --> 00:45:47,573
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also how a busker is making money in

920
00:45:47,693 --> 00:45:50,853
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five because no one's got any coins to

921
00:45:50,853 --> 00:45:51,293
Speaker 2: throw them?

922
00:45:51,453 --> 00:45:52,133
Speaker 3: Yeah?

923
00:45:52,293 --> 00:45:55,813
Speaker 2: Is it is it time to Yeah? See, I'm not

924
00:45:55,853 --> 00:45:57,253
Speaker 2: sure how you work this out, but I think if

925
00:45:57,293 --> 00:45:59,573
Speaker 2: you're a rubbish busker there should be some way you

926
00:45:59,573 --> 00:46:00,213
Speaker 2: can be moved on.

927
00:46:00,333 --> 00:46:03,293
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty. If you are a busker,

928
00:46:03,453 --> 00:46:05,573
Speaker 3: what are the rules in place now? If you want

929
00:46:05,613 --> 00:46:08,252
Speaker 3: to go set up and entertain people on the street.

930
00:46:08,333 --> 00:46:09,853
Speaker 3: I love to hear from you. Oh eight hundred and

931
00:46:09,853 --> 00:46:11,973
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is that number to call? It's thirteen

932
00:46:12,013 --> 00:46:12,453
Speaker 3: past two?

933
00:46:13,253 --> 00:46:17,813
Speaker 1: Wow, your home of afternoon Talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams

934
00:46:17,893 --> 00:46:21,613
Speaker 1: afternoons call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk.

935
00:46:21,453 --> 00:46:21,813
Speaker 4: Said, be.

936
00:46:23,693 --> 00:46:27,172
Speaker 3: Afternoon, sixteen past two. So Leicester Square. In the UK

937
00:46:27,253 --> 00:46:32,413
Speaker 3: they've banned terrible buskers, and the question we're put to

938
00:46:32,453 --> 00:46:34,413
Speaker 3: you is does there need to be some sort of

939
00:46:34,453 --> 00:46:37,093
Speaker 3: quality control when it comes to buskers in New Zealands.

940
00:46:37,173 --> 00:46:39,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some terrible buskers out there and there's some

941
00:46:39,733 --> 00:46:43,933
Speaker 2: really really good ones. So busking restrictions in Auckland. When

942
00:46:43,973 --> 00:46:46,453
Speaker 2: you perform you need to carry your license at all times,

943
00:46:47,333 --> 00:46:50,453
Speaker 2: carry photo identification flow with the street performance and busking

944
00:46:50,493 --> 00:46:52,813
Speaker 2: license conditions, so there's quite a lot of restriction. Street

945
00:46:52,853 --> 00:46:56,853
Speaker 2: performance and busking license conditions. Must comply with these three conditions,

946
00:46:57,253 --> 00:47:01,413
Speaker 2: hold a license and performing times. There's times you can't.

947
00:47:01,413 --> 00:47:03,293
Speaker 2: In there certain places that you can't, such as Britain

948
00:47:03,333 --> 00:47:05,172
Speaker 2: R Railway station that's in Auckland. I'm sure there's similar

949
00:47:05,253 --> 00:47:07,133
Speaker 2: rules across the country, but there's nothing in here that

950
00:47:07,213 --> 00:47:11,453
Speaker 2: says quality of busking. So there's nothing to say. You know,

951
00:47:11,493 --> 00:47:13,813
Speaker 2: you can get your license, but you could just be

952
00:47:13,973 --> 00:47:17,373
Speaker 2: absolutely rubbish like that guy with his dog and clean sound.

953
00:47:18,053 --> 00:47:19,613
Speaker 2: There's nothing that says that.

954
00:47:20,133 --> 00:47:22,013
Speaker 3: And there's something wrong with that that if you just

955
00:47:22,053 --> 00:47:24,133
Speaker 3: turn up with any old things say and I know

956
00:47:24,293 --> 00:47:26,813
Speaker 3: some buskers do this very successfully, but it's like an

957
00:47:26,813 --> 00:47:30,013
Speaker 3: overturned bucket and start drumming away. If you were terrible

958
00:47:30,053 --> 00:47:33,252
Speaker 3: at that, then it doesn't matter. You can bust wherever

959
00:47:33,253 --> 00:47:33,533
Speaker 3: you like.

960
00:47:33,533 --> 00:47:35,773
Speaker 2: This Texas is there's a punishing homeless man drumming on

961
00:47:35,813 --> 00:47:38,773
Speaker 2: a bucket day and day night out on the street.

962
00:47:39,293 --> 00:47:41,093
Speaker 2: It does my headden out of the front of his shop.

963
00:47:41,133 --> 00:47:43,773
Speaker 2: See that's what I'm talking about. So that guy.

964
00:47:43,893 --> 00:47:44,253
Speaker 4: He's not.

965
00:47:45,813 --> 00:47:51,573
Speaker 2: He's just smashing the bucket, mate, Just don't smash the bucket.

966
00:47:52,293 --> 00:47:57,253
Speaker 2: Just sit there, Mike. Your thoughts on buskers?

967
00:47:58,333 --> 00:48:01,373
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hi, guys, you know, I think it was about

968
00:48:01,373 --> 00:48:05,453
Speaker 5: ten years ago. My uncle and auntie had just retired

969
00:48:06,173 --> 00:48:13,053
Speaker 5: and the grandfather of the Golden needed home care. So there.

970
00:48:14,653 --> 00:48:17,813
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, Mike, you're really really breaking up?

971
00:48:17,973 --> 00:48:20,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, can you we just see if we can

972
00:48:20,173 --> 00:48:23,533
Speaker 3: get Mike's phone line sorted a couple of techs here,

973
00:48:23,573 --> 00:48:27,413
Speaker 3: guys in Melbourne, if I can find that. To play

974
00:48:27,453 --> 00:48:30,413
Speaker 3: in Melbourne on Burke Street, you have to submit and

975
00:48:30,413 --> 00:48:35,893
Speaker 3: get approved to play there. It means that anybody who

976
00:48:36,333 --> 00:48:39,853
Speaker 3: is a terrible musician or their actors just playing loopy

977
00:48:40,533 --> 00:48:41,772
Speaker 3: does not get to take part.

978
00:48:42,093 --> 00:48:46,133
Speaker 2: Yeah this Texas says maybe radio presenters need a certain

979
00:48:46,173 --> 00:48:48,613
Speaker 2: stand as well. Oh, you'd be in trouble if that

980
00:48:48,773 --> 00:48:51,653
Speaker 2: was the case, Tyler, Mike, Let's see how your line's

981
00:48:51,693 --> 00:48:54,213
Speaker 2: going now, Yeah, Hi, can you hear me?

982
00:48:54,293 --> 00:48:54,453
Speaker 4: Now?

983
00:48:54,533 --> 00:48:57,013
Speaker 2: That is beautiful, Mike. What a great voice you've got.

984
00:48:58,013 --> 00:49:01,652
Speaker 5: Oh, thank you. Likewise, Yeah, so, as I was saying,

985
00:49:02,453 --> 00:49:06,293
Speaker 5: perhaps ten years ago, my uncle and Naty you had

986
00:49:06,373 --> 00:49:09,493
Speaker 5: just retired, and my grandfather at the Gold Coast needed

987
00:49:09,533 --> 00:49:12,333
Speaker 5: home care, so they rented their house out in New

988
00:49:12,453 --> 00:49:15,573
Speaker 5: Zealand and went over there and looked after him. And

989
00:49:15,893 --> 00:49:17,493
Speaker 5: so my uncle had a lot of time on his

990
00:49:17,613 --> 00:49:22,493
Speaker 5: hands and decided to learn to play the saxophone and

991
00:49:23,813 --> 00:49:26,613
Speaker 5: he would go up I think it was surface Paradise

992
00:49:26,693 --> 00:49:29,813
Speaker 5: or somewhere, and because he had learned it just a

993
00:49:29,853 --> 00:49:32,773
Speaker 5: few notes and he'd ever got busting. So yeah, he

994
00:49:32,853 --> 00:49:34,453
Speaker 5: used to make a bit of money, you know, maybe

995
00:49:34,693 --> 00:49:38,573
Speaker 5: twenty thirty forty fifty dollars a day doing what he

996
00:49:38,613 --> 00:49:42,653
Speaker 5: was doing. But at one stage an irate restaurant owner

997
00:49:42,733 --> 00:49:46,453
Speaker 5: came charging out, swearing his head off and told him

998
00:49:46,453 --> 00:49:49,373
Speaker 5: to move along. So, yeah, my uncle and answered, there

999
00:49:49,613 --> 00:49:52,692
Speaker 5: very very strict Christians. And so obviously my uncle moved

1000
00:49:52,693 --> 00:49:57,973
Speaker 5: along and did it somewhere else. But for him being

1001
00:49:58,053 --> 00:50:00,413
Speaker 5: you know, obeying the law to the to the t

1002
00:50:00,693 --> 00:50:02,893
Speaker 5: nth degree, he thought it was great that he didn't

1003
00:50:02,933 --> 00:50:05,133
Speaker 5: have to pay tax and he could make a little

1004
00:50:05,133 --> 00:50:07,933
Speaker 5: bit of money each day playing the sex. But however,

1005
00:50:08,413 --> 00:50:10,053
Speaker 5: it must have been a little while after this he

1006
00:50:10,133 --> 00:50:12,652
Speaker 5: must have improved, because some guy came up to him

1007
00:50:12,653 --> 00:50:15,733
Speaker 5: and said, look, mate, I've got a party at the

1008
00:50:15,773 --> 00:50:18,652
Speaker 5: top of a high rise building in a penthouse, and

1009
00:50:18,653 --> 00:50:20,253
Speaker 5: I'll give you a couple hundred dollars if you can

1010
00:50:20,293 --> 00:50:24,333
Speaker 5: just play for an hour. So a couple of days later,

1011
00:50:24,373 --> 00:50:27,053
Speaker 5: off he went up to this party penthouse top of

1012
00:50:27,053 --> 00:50:30,133
Speaker 5: a high rise apartment building. He was there for five

1013
00:50:30,213 --> 00:50:35,613
Speaker 5: minutes and some busty broad walked out carrying a tray

1014
00:50:35,653 --> 00:50:39,133
Speaker 5: of drinks topless, and him being a Christian, that was it.

1015
00:50:39,253 --> 00:50:40,973
Speaker 5: He packed up his kit, he was gone, and he

1016
00:50:40,973 --> 00:50:43,333
Speaker 5: didn't see that two hundred dollars. He was out of there.

1017
00:50:43,733 --> 00:50:45,493
Speaker 5: So I don't know if it was whether or not

1018
00:50:45,493 --> 00:50:48,613
Speaker 5: he was honoring my auntie, his wife, or if he

1019
00:50:48,733 --> 00:50:51,093
Speaker 5: just lost his entire trainer thought he could wait aning Well,

1020
00:50:51,133 --> 00:50:55,133
Speaker 5: but that's what happened. But you know, yeah, sometimes guys

1021
00:50:55,173 --> 00:50:57,493
Speaker 5: can get a break. But he didn't make anything of

1022
00:50:57,533 --> 00:50:57,933
Speaker 5: that one.

1023
00:50:58,293 --> 00:51:00,253
Speaker 2: So, Mike, just to go back to the start of

1024
00:51:00,293 --> 00:51:05,133
Speaker 2: the story. Did your uncle decide to learn to play

1025
00:51:05,133 --> 00:51:06,893
Speaker 2: the sacks out on the street or did he did

1026
00:51:06,893 --> 00:51:08,773
Speaker 2: he learn to play the sax before he went out

1027
00:51:08,773 --> 00:51:09,173
Speaker 2: on the street.

1028
00:51:10,613 --> 00:51:12,933
Speaker 5: Well, it was an apartment complex where he was looking

1029
00:51:12,973 --> 00:51:15,533
Speaker 5: up to my grandfather, and yeah, he definitely had to

1030
00:51:15,573 --> 00:51:18,133
Speaker 5: go a long way away when he was practicing.

1031
00:51:20,413 --> 00:51:23,893
Speaker 2: It's quite an aggressive instrument to take on to the street.

1032
00:51:23,933 --> 00:51:27,652
Speaker 2: I mean, the saxophone really really cuts through. I mean,

1033
00:51:27,653 --> 00:51:29,973
Speaker 2: that's why you like a sexophone. That's why people liked

1034
00:51:30,093 --> 00:51:32,893
Speaker 2: saxophone sol especially in the adders, because it just cuts through.

1035
00:51:32,933 --> 00:51:36,613
Speaker 2: They're very, very loud, sharp instruments. So you know, he

1036
00:51:36,653 --> 00:51:37,173
Speaker 2: really pitched.

1037
00:51:37,213 --> 00:51:39,093
Speaker 5: I think it's one of the most difficult, isn't.

1038
00:51:38,893 --> 00:51:40,693
Speaker 2: It to play?

1039
00:51:41,493 --> 00:51:41,853
Speaker 4: Well?

1040
00:51:42,053 --> 00:51:44,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, because it's always going to be

1041
00:51:44,293 --> 00:51:47,053
Speaker 2: quite loud, so you know, good on them and so

1042
00:51:47,533 --> 00:51:50,053
Speaker 2: but it sounds like he got some skills over time,

1043
00:51:50,533 --> 00:51:52,893
Speaker 2: and you know, you know, it sounds like he moved

1044
00:51:52,893 --> 00:51:55,252
Speaker 2: on when someone said this is this is punishing us,

1045
00:51:55,293 --> 00:51:56,533
Speaker 2: so bless him.

1046
00:51:56,573 --> 00:51:58,173
Speaker 3: Maybe we just need a better patience with some of

1047
00:51:58,173 --> 00:51:58,813
Speaker 3: these buskers.

1048
00:52:00,773 --> 00:52:02,293
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, some of them are pretty good.

1049
00:52:02,493 --> 00:52:05,413
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right, thank you so much, Mike. I mean,

1050
00:52:05,453 --> 00:52:08,533
Speaker 2: I don't really know what I'm saying here because for

1051
00:52:08,573 --> 00:52:12,772
Speaker 2: a change, but what could you really do? Could you?

1052
00:52:12,813 --> 00:52:15,973
Speaker 2: Could you really have a minimum level so you have

1053
00:52:16,093 --> 00:52:20,013
Speaker 2: to pass because you know it's art arguably, so you

1054
00:52:20,053 --> 00:52:22,053
Speaker 2: could have someone come through and say that's an absolute

1055
00:52:22,133 --> 00:52:23,692
Speaker 2: racket and they say no, well, I'm sort of an

1056
00:52:23,733 --> 00:52:27,692
Speaker 2: avant gar kind of you know, yeah, you know.

1057
00:52:27,733 --> 00:52:29,733
Speaker 3: How are you to judge my performance idea?

1058
00:52:29,813 --> 00:52:31,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's the types of jazz that some

1059
00:52:31,773 --> 00:52:34,133
Speaker 2: people love, like John Coltrane. You put them out on

1060
00:52:34,173 --> 00:52:35,893
Speaker 2: the street. Some people might not be handled out. Other

1061
00:52:35,893 --> 00:52:37,213
Speaker 2: people would love it, if you know what I'm saying.

1062
00:52:37,333 --> 00:52:40,573
Speaker 3: There's two parts here that some people would say if

1063
00:52:40,613 --> 00:52:42,333
Speaker 3: it's a busker that is doing your head and just

1064
00:52:42,373 --> 00:52:44,893
Speaker 3: don't pay the money. But the other school of thought

1065
00:52:45,053 --> 00:52:47,853
Speaker 3: is that you should be paying them because as soon

1066
00:52:47,893 --> 00:52:49,973
Speaker 3: as they get a certain amount, they'll they'll bugger off

1067
00:52:49,973 --> 00:52:53,533
Speaker 3: for the day. So maybe they're really bad buskers. We

1068
00:52:53,573 --> 00:52:56,213
Speaker 3: should be paying them more so that they move along faster.

1069
00:52:56,333 --> 00:52:58,093
Speaker 2: Well, this is what Jesse says. My dad came to

1070
00:52:58,173 --> 00:53:00,293
Speaker 2: visit us and we went out for breakfast. I wondered

1071
00:53:00,293 --> 00:53:02,693
Speaker 2: why my dad went. He had been to the busker

1072
00:53:02,733 --> 00:53:06,013
Speaker 2: and paid him to move on. There's always there's always

1073
00:53:06,013 --> 00:53:08,533
Speaker 2: an amount that will get a busker to move it's

1074
00:53:08,573 --> 00:53:09,893
Speaker 2: just whether you're willing to pay it.

1075
00:53:10,253 --> 00:53:13,013
Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty Should there be rules in

1076
00:53:13,053 --> 00:53:15,613
Speaker 3: place for the quality of buskers in New Zealand?

1077
00:53:15,853 --> 00:53:19,253
Speaker 2: Are you being bugged by a busker? As a busker

1078
00:53:19,333 --> 00:53:21,813
Speaker 2: being a problem in your life. Have you been a

1079
00:53:21,853 --> 00:53:24,453
Speaker 2: busker and we'd love to hear your stories On eight

1080
00:53:24,533 --> 00:53:26,493
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty Have you been a good

1081
00:53:26,533 --> 00:53:29,173
Speaker 2: busker that had to deal with bad buskers around you?

1082
00:53:30,293 --> 00:53:32,813
Speaker 3: It is twenty three pars two bag re shortly here

1083
00:53:32,853 --> 00:53:33,813
Speaker 3: on News Talks EDB.

1084
00:53:38,013 --> 00:53:41,373
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred

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Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: News Talks HEBN. We're talking about buskers in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Should there be some sort of quality control on the

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Speaker 3: state of buskers around the country. It's controversial and a

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Speaker 3: few texts have said as much. Guys, when we stayed

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Speaker 3: in a good area in Rome while the buskers, violinists, pianist,

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Speaker 3: opera singers all first class, Yes to quality control because

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Speaker 3: of New Zealand crap.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, fair enough, Thank for you, cool Anya,

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Speaker 2: welcome the show. You've you've busted for two years of

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Speaker 2: your life. I believe I haven't hear you. Hi, guys,

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Speaker 2: thanks for calling.

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Speaker 17: I listened to your show all the time and I've

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Speaker 17: never been able to answer a question, so this is

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Speaker 17: quite fun.

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Speaker 2: Oh, this is perfect then, so your experience is busking

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Speaker 2: okay for a start, Did you start off as a

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Speaker 2: competent buscer? And what was the instrument you were playing?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, well, I think it would be fair to say

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Speaker 17: I was average. I was with another person and the

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Speaker 17: two of us. He played the guitar and I was

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Speaker 17: a singer and I also play guitar a bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 17: so I think we were average, probably, but nothing like

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Speaker 17: this some of the people you see on YouTube and

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Speaker 17: I've seen in Europe. But you know, we never had

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Speaker 17: anybody split at us or tell us to shut up.

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Speaker 5: Put it that way.

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Speaker 2: So were you Were you a naturally good singer? Some

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Speaker 2: of that have been singing a lot before you decided

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Speaker 2: to take up busking.

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Speaker 17: Yes, so most that was my main instrument. Yeah, I'd

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Speaker 17: learned for many years. I've trained as a as a singer.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And did you make good money?

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Speaker 17: Well, we did, you know, we actually did. This was

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Speaker 17: in This was from nineteen ninety two to about ninety

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Speaker 17: well nineteen ninety to ninety two, and we paid all

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Speaker 17: our bills. That's what we did. We just we needed

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Speaker 17: a new something for the car. We'd go to King's

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Speaker 17: Cross in Sydney and busk all night and we'd get

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Speaker 17: a new tire or whatever we needed.

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Speaker 2: Did you have to get a phone? Did you have

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Speaker 2: to get permits back then? Or did you just turn

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Speaker 2: up and play?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 17: We just played. I mean that I did nearly get

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Speaker 17: thrown jail one night because I've been playing the tambourine

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Speaker 17: too loud. This police officer said, if you don't want

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Speaker 17: to get thrown in the cells, where you just shut up? Please?

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Speaker 2: Were there were there other? Were there other bus because

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Speaker 2: did you have busker turf war? Because if you set

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Speaker 2: up and there someone else wants to set up beside you,

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Speaker 2: does that become a bit of argie budget?

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Speaker 17: Well, there was spaces that we had, but that's because

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Speaker 17: it was our choice. We always used to go to

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Speaker 17: this place we called the squashed Chip because when we

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Speaker 17: first chose that place, there was a squash chip on

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Speaker 17: the floor on the pavement, so we always called it

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Speaker 17: our spot was the squash Chip. But there were a

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Speaker 17: few people around. But we also busked in all around

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Speaker 17: Australia and you know in country towns and things, and

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Speaker 17: people just loved us. They bring us cooking and you know,

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Speaker 17: ask us when we were coming back and we stayed

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Speaker 17: the night with somebody once because it was really hot

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Speaker 17: and we didn't want to sleep in our van, and

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Speaker 17: she said she had an air conditioned room.

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Speaker 2: What kind of tunes were you playing, Anya?

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Speaker 17: They were basically doing country and blues, so yeah, and

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Speaker 17: some of the old favorites. You know, you can never

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Speaker 17: go past tambourine Man.

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Speaker 2: And as the tambourine man in the song tambouring Man

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Speaker 2: was the one that got in trouble was it?

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Speaker 14: Could it?

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Speaker 11: Well?

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Speaker 17: But I can't quite remember.

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Speaker 2: But so would you recommend the buskers busker's life?

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Speaker 18: Well, I was.

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Speaker 17: Really young then, you know, and we were living in

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Speaker 17: our panel van and it was just a way of

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Speaker 17: life between one formal life that had been ditched by

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Speaker 17: both of us, between that and another formal life that

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Speaker 17: I ended up having. So buscer life, I don't know

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Speaker 17: that I would choose it myself.

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Speaker 8: Right nowtastic at the time.

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Speaker 2: And finally, are you still playing music?

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Speaker 17: Well, you probably can hear my voice, so I don't

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Speaker 17: play music anymore. I have a throat condition. I don't sing, unfortunately.

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Speaker 14: But.

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Speaker 2: Sounds down the phone. But sorry, And what you're saying.

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Speaker 17: I'm just gonna say the part of the guys with

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Speaker 17: at the time that he still plays music a lot.

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Speaker 17: So yes, it came a life.

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Speaker 3: And what was it. I mean you said you wouldn't

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Speaker 3: want to be a busker now, which is fair enough.

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Speaker 3: But was it Easy's not quite the right word. But

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Speaker 3: did you make good money or was it quite long

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Speaker 3: hours that you had to put in to make decent money?

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Speaker 17: We made the money that we needed at the time,

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Speaker 17: which as I said, was just paying the bills and

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Speaker 17: getting from one place to the other. We used to

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Speaker 17: have a red bag, you know, plastic bag bag that

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Speaker 17: we put all the money in and the least we

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Speaker 17: got down to it was two cents.

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Speaker 2: Good on you, Yeah, well doastic And after we'll come

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Speaker 2: back and just a few minutes after the new headlines

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Speaker 2: with a cop who's spent some time busting up buskets,

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Speaker 2: this is.

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Speaker 3: Going to be good one hundred eighty ten eighty. If

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Speaker 3: you've been a busker in the past or are currently

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Speaker 3: a busker, love to hear from you. It is bang

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Speaker 3: on past two.

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Speaker 12: uncertainty as the White House temporarily exempt some Chinese electronics

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Speaker 12: from one hundred and forty five percent tariffs, including phones

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Speaker 12: also lifting, but we're down year on here in February

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Speaker 12: because of the lunar New year's earlier start. Power has

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Speaker 12: and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen. And we are talking about

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Speaker 3: busk is in New Zealand. Should there be some sort

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Speaker 3: of quality control in terms of their skill set?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, some are horrible and they make life horrible for

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Speaker 2: people working near them, and some are absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 12: Ye.

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Speaker 2: But if you're incredible, a busc go on. He has

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Speaker 2: a certain sized repertoire. And so I used to work

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Speaker 2: in a store in Duneda and there was a busker

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Speaker 2: out the front and he only had about four songs.

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Speaker 2: He's pretty good those four songs, but they were on

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Speaker 2: high rotate.

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Speaker 3: I mean that is a bit of torture.

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Speaker 2: Tom used to move buskers on.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, basically what it used to happen in the sort

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Speaker 11: of eighties and seventies and eighteenes and before. They used

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Speaker 11: to congregate on the streets and on the undergrounds. And

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Speaker 11: what used to happen is that some of them were appalling,

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Speaker 11: of course, but they used to track great crowds, and

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Speaker 11: of course when you get crowds and you've got pickpockets,

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Speaker 11: so everyone used to move them on for obstruction and

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Speaker 11: stuff like that. But then what these new ones do

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Speaker 11: when they make this bloody noise is they use like

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Speaker 11: road cones and stuff like that, because they found a

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Speaker 11: loophole in the law. So what they used were beggars.

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Speaker 11: Basically they would be begging and the law goes back

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Speaker 11: to that from eighteen twenty four. But then they found

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Speaker 11: a loophole if you make some sort of noise and

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Speaker 11: a judge I think over there, turned around and the

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Speaker 11: set that, yeah, it was okay if you were making

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Speaker 11: some sort of screaky, bloody noise or whatever, and so

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Speaker 11: that's how they got round it. But then you know

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Speaker 11: when you actually see them. Some of these some of

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Speaker 11: the buskers now have been licensed by local authorities and

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Speaker 11: also by the underground have got specific spaces. Of course

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Speaker 11: on the underground, the acoustics are fantastic, yeah, and they

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Speaker 11: do sets, so they get an hour each you know,

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Speaker 11: a certain station or a certain area or whatever it is,

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Speaker 11: and they've got like a rotation and that's all cool,

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Speaker 11: but it entertains people, et cetera, et cetera, and it's

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Speaker 11: all licensed and they're pretty good musicians. But these idiots

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Speaker 11: with the road cones, they sort of sit outside in

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Speaker 11: Knoxas Street and whatever and make this noise, but they're

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Speaker 11: all begging basically, that's what it is. But then every

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Speaker 11: now and again, when they're not making the noise, they're

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Speaker 11: on their iPhone, so it showed you how much money

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Speaker 11: they're making.

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Speaker 2: It's an interesting idea. So essentially there was a ruling

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Speaker 2: that if you were making some noise, you were a busker,

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Speaker 2: which gave you different privileges to someone that's just sitting

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Speaker 2: there with their hands out. But then I guess the

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Speaker 2: problem is defining what music is, which is something that

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Speaker 2: humanity hasn't managed to do in all our time, because

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Speaker 2: what music. What's music to someone is not music to

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Speaker 2: someone else. And someone could argue I imagine that smashing

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Speaker 2: a road code is music, Well yes.

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Speaker 11: And no, I don't think so, because like if you

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Speaker 11: look at the definition of a melody as a well

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Speaker 11: ordered succession of single sounds, so that's that's certainly not

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Speaker 11: there because it just drones out some you know, like

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Speaker 11: a vuvuzela thing that is having a football metage, and

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Speaker 11: that's basically what it is, and those are the things

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Speaker 11: that should be gone. Yeah, I mean, if it gets

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Speaker 11: some really good good musicians and a lot of like

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Speaker 11: the pop stars and whatever you know, all come from

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Speaker 11: that sort of era. Given the crack crack on the streets.

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Speaker 2: Roger Stewart. Violent fimes started as.

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Speaker 11: Busket found found by Roger Rogert Roger, Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: And as a Chrissy Hines film Long John Baldry.

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Speaker 11: Long, but John Baldry down Rod Stewart, that was it.

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Speaker 2: Chrissy Hines from the Pretenders discovered the violent themes busking

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Speaker 2: and that's how their career started. Fantastic being But but

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Speaker 2: so when you when you were when you were moving

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Speaker 2: on these buskers, what did you do, grab their instrument

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Speaker 2: and take it off them, rough them up, smash smashed

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Speaker 2: the violence and move them on?

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Speaker 11: Or was none of that? Sorry the first ship bubble.

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Speaker 11: But basically, basically they got moved on. And most most

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Speaker 11: people the in days, we were pretty cool about it.

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Speaker 11: They sort of said, okay, you know whatever. But the

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Speaker 11: odd one did get locked up and they would be

1298
01:05:00,533 --> 01:05:05,013
Speaker 11: done for obstruction, and the magistrates all knew about it.

1299
01:05:05,053 --> 01:05:06,573
Speaker 11: So it was all like, you know, they got some

1300
01:05:06,693 --> 01:05:09,893
Speaker 11: minimal fine or down a day or something like that,

1301
01:05:10,333 --> 01:05:13,373
Speaker 11: and and and they went the game, you know. But

1302
01:05:13,413 --> 01:05:16,253
Speaker 11: you had your regulars, and most of the regulars got

1303
01:05:16,253 --> 01:05:19,373
Speaker 11: to know the guys on the on the beat and

1304
01:05:19,373 --> 01:05:22,213
Speaker 11: stuff like that, and most of them are pretty reasonable guys.

1305
01:05:22,973 --> 01:05:26,093
Speaker 11: And and of course actually when you you know some

1306
01:05:26,133 --> 01:05:27,573
Speaker 11: of them, not all of them, but some of them

1307
01:05:27,613 --> 01:05:32,013
Speaker 11: were actually good the preventers of crime because they would

1308
01:05:32,333 --> 01:05:34,493
Speaker 11: they could see they would see a bloody lot going on.

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01:05:35,373 --> 01:05:38,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, when I was last, and you talk about the

1310
01:05:38,093 --> 01:05:40,773
Speaker 2: acoustics in the underground, when I was last in London,

1311
01:05:41,093 --> 01:05:44,693
Speaker 2: there was a cellist that was playing and obviously it

1312
01:05:44,773 --> 01:05:46,293
Speaker 2: had been you know, got one of these permits for

1313
01:05:46,333 --> 01:05:50,133
Speaker 2: an hour and she was incredible. Well, I was in

1314
01:05:50,173 --> 01:05:52,173
Speaker 2: a hurry, and the way it was going I heard

1315
01:05:52,173 --> 01:05:53,653
Speaker 2: it as it came around the corner and the way

1316
01:05:53,733 --> 01:05:55,333
Speaker 2: was that you're going through the Chief station. I can't

1317
01:05:55,333 --> 01:05:57,253
Speaker 2: remember which one. It was one of the major ones.

1318
01:05:58,013 --> 01:06:03,133
Speaker 2: It was just incredibly beautiful and it was an example

1319
01:06:03,293 --> 01:06:06,933
Speaker 2: of someone adding something to the world by their performance.

1320
01:06:07,053 --> 01:06:09,933
Speaker 2: You got this incredible musician out in public as you know,

1321
01:06:10,093 --> 01:06:12,333
Speaker 2: going about your day. It was really incredible. That's at

1322
01:06:12,333 --> 01:06:14,933
Speaker 2: the top end of busking. At the bottom, what you're

1323
01:06:14,933 --> 01:06:16,533
Speaker 2: talking about is someone just working a road go.

1324
01:06:18,613 --> 01:06:20,653
Speaker 11: Yeah. I mean you've got on YouTube and you look

1325
01:06:20,693 --> 01:06:24,373
Speaker 11: at some pancres at the International terminal there at the station. Yeah,

1326
01:06:24,573 --> 01:06:26,773
Speaker 11: and I mean they got the pianos there, and then

1327
01:06:26,773 --> 01:06:30,413
Speaker 11: you've got these violinists that come from they're all school

1328
01:06:30,453 --> 01:06:32,293
Speaker 11: of music and they have a crack and put a

1329
01:06:32,293 --> 01:06:37,293
Speaker 11: song up. And some of them are actually brilliant, fantastic musicians,

1330
01:06:37,333 --> 01:06:39,493
Speaker 11: you know. I mean, it's just so much entertainment.

1331
01:06:39,773 --> 01:06:40,173
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:06:40,253 --> 01:06:43,333
Speaker 11: I mean Elton John actually donated a piano I think

1333
01:06:43,373 --> 01:06:47,373
Speaker 11: to do some pancras terminal and he went down and

1334
01:06:47,373 --> 01:06:48,573
Speaker 11: did a session there himself.

1335
01:06:49,133 --> 01:06:51,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's some fantastic I mean, if you're an

1336
01:06:51,653 --> 01:06:53,813
Speaker 2: amazing musician and that's the way to make money, then

1337
01:06:54,053 --> 01:06:55,413
Speaker 2: then brilliant.

1338
01:06:55,493 --> 01:06:55,773
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1339
01:06:55,773 --> 01:06:59,693
Speaker 2: But if you're rubbish and you're torturing people with your racket,

1340
01:06:59,733 --> 01:07:02,853
Speaker 2: then there's this Texas is tasering that might be too

1341
01:07:03,493 --> 01:07:03,933
Speaker 2: too much.

1342
01:07:04,173 --> 01:07:05,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, but why can't we just get rid of the

1343
01:07:05,893 --> 01:07:09,213
Speaker 3: licensee And then going back to heaving a judging panel

1344
01:07:09,413 --> 01:07:12,893
Speaker 3: someone who clearly understands a little bit about music. You

1345
01:07:12,973 --> 01:07:15,293
Speaker 3: go in front of the judging panel and you play

1346
01:07:15,333 --> 01:07:17,253
Speaker 3: your bit and they say, yep, you're good. You can

1347
01:07:17,293 --> 01:07:19,653
Speaker 3: go wherever you like. Nah, your crap. I don't want

1348
01:07:19,653 --> 01:07:20,733
Speaker 3: to see you in the city again.

1349
01:07:21,493 --> 01:07:23,373
Speaker 2: Go away and practice and come back.

1350
01:07:24,333 --> 01:07:26,973
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty. Love to hear

1351
01:07:27,053 --> 01:07:29,853
Speaker 3: from you if you are a busk yourself, and if

1352
01:07:29,853 --> 01:07:33,013
Speaker 3: you're well traveled and you've seen some phenomenal buskers around

1353
01:07:33,053 --> 01:07:34,133
Speaker 3: the world, love to hear from yours.

1354
01:07:34,173 --> 01:07:36,853
Speaker 2: Well, what I prefer rather than phenomenal ones. I'm enjoying

1355
01:07:36,853 --> 01:07:38,853
Speaker 2: these busker horror stories that are coming through on nine

1356
01:07:38,933 --> 01:07:42,013
Speaker 2: two ninety two. So if you've got a horrific busker

1357
01:07:42,013 --> 01:07:44,613
Speaker 2: in your life, where you work or where you walk,

1358
01:07:44,813 --> 01:07:46,093
Speaker 2: oh weight one hundred and eighteen eighty.

1359
01:07:46,293 --> 01:07:48,773
Speaker 3: It is eighteen to three.

1360
01:07:49,453 --> 01:07:52,813
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls

1361
01:07:52,853 --> 01:07:56,613
Speaker 1: on Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk said be.

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01:07:57,373 --> 01:08:01,693
Speaker 3: News Talks hit be. Now we'll mention this. You were

1363
01:08:01,733 --> 01:08:05,213
Speaker 3: just watching a video of yourself doing a bit of busking.

1364
01:08:05,333 --> 01:08:07,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just said to Tylight a bit of busking, Mack.

1365
01:08:07,413 --> 01:08:08,733
Speaker 2: They played Tiler video.

1366
01:08:08,773 --> 01:08:08,973
Speaker 4: Boy.

1367
01:08:09,173 --> 01:08:12,093
Speaker 2: I was good though. This isn't the rubbish busking that

1368
01:08:12,133 --> 01:08:15,693
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. I was quality busker that brought joy

1369
01:08:16,253 --> 01:08:18,973
Speaker 2: to the world everywhere I went and made good money.

1370
01:08:19,173 --> 01:08:21,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, happy people around you.

1371
01:08:21,813 --> 01:08:24,852
Speaker 2: They look in that video there that that I was

1372
01:08:24,853 --> 01:08:26,852
Speaker 2: just showing Tyler there is a homeless person giving me

1373
01:08:26,933 --> 01:08:28,892
Speaker 2: the two fingers salute right to my face.

1374
01:08:28,973 --> 01:08:31,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's driving while he's doing it, so he's

1375
01:08:31,893 --> 01:08:33,852
Speaker 3: dancing while giving you the two fingered salute.

1376
01:08:34,013 --> 01:08:37,612
Speaker 2: Well, if I'm in dancing, I mean attempting to punch me.

1377
01:08:38,053 --> 01:08:40,973
Speaker 2: But that homeless person had no taste, you know. And

1378
01:08:41,013 --> 01:08:44,372
Speaker 2: you can't go around judging your art by whatever homeless

1379
01:08:44,372 --> 01:08:49,132
Speaker 2: person comes up and makes abuse of signals in your face. Neil,

1380
01:08:49,492 --> 01:08:53,333
Speaker 2: your experiences with busking, Yes.

1381
01:08:53,213 --> 01:08:58,173
Speaker 15: I've just mined and mentioned the rise of technology now

1382
01:08:58,213 --> 01:09:00,852
Speaker 15: and yeah you may have. You may have heard of

1383
01:09:00,893 --> 01:09:06,452
Speaker 15: those hardly speakers out now. Yeah, before the elid lights

1384
01:09:06,572 --> 01:09:11,013
Speaker 15: never than session on them, while they now chag them up.

1385
01:09:11,053 --> 01:09:14,452
Speaker 15: And you don't need a chord. They had built it

1386
01:09:14,452 --> 01:09:19,052
Speaker 15: in microphone or guitar channels. So you're basically got big

1387
01:09:19,093 --> 01:09:23,852
Speaker 15: ale on one box, turn it on, plug and switch

1388
01:09:23,933 --> 01:09:27,532
Speaker 15: it on on the way you go. So can't imagine

1389
01:09:27,532 --> 01:09:30,492
Speaker 15: that coming quite hand you for musking, you know, I've

1390
01:09:30,532 --> 01:09:34,293
Speaker 15: got one I use, but not for musketing, and I'm

1391
01:09:34,333 --> 01:09:36,772
Speaker 15: thinking that would be a great I'd be for musking

1392
01:09:37,293 --> 01:09:40,173
Speaker 15: if you wanted to, if you had a singer with you,

1393
01:09:40,412 --> 01:09:44,093
Speaker 15: or you saying yourself. Yeah, take yourself and with your

1394
01:09:44,133 --> 01:09:47,612
Speaker 15: mind and you play and all the colored fishing lights

1395
01:09:47,772 --> 01:09:49,173
Speaker 15: come with it, so you be away.

1396
01:09:49,612 --> 01:09:52,093
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool, pretty cool the technology, you know. I've

1397
01:09:52,093 --> 01:09:54,852
Speaker 2: seen some buskers that are phenomenal that you know, run

1398
01:09:54,933 --> 01:09:56,812
Speaker 2: the loop pedals with you know, and they set up

1399
01:09:56,853 --> 01:09:58,732
Speaker 2: the whole song, they record all the bits in and

1400
01:09:58,732 --> 01:10:02,213
Speaker 2: then and then bring it all together. That those skill

1401
01:10:02,333 --> 01:10:04,013
Speaker 2: I go for your life with if you if you're

1402
01:10:04,053 --> 01:10:05,532
Speaker 2: that kind of thing, but if you're just working a

1403
01:10:05,572 --> 01:10:09,053
Speaker 2: bucket outside of shot out of here, That's what I'm saying.

1404
01:10:09,133 --> 01:10:12,572
Speaker 3: Oh, it was Taj Sultana, who's quite a phenomenal musician,

1405
01:10:12,572 --> 01:10:15,372
Speaker 3: but she started as a busker in Melbourne, I think.

1406
01:10:15,412 --> 01:10:18,253
Speaker 3: But she was a lot better than just banging a bucket.

1407
01:10:20,093 --> 01:10:23,253
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, I've always set up where I want at nights,

1408
01:10:23,253 --> 01:10:26,532
Speaker 2: safely smashed out a twenty minute fire breathing set packed

1409
01:10:26,572 --> 01:10:28,692
Speaker 2: up and bug it off with the cash. People tend

1410
01:10:28,692 --> 01:10:31,492
Speaker 2: to leave the pyromaniac alone rather than move them on

1411
01:10:31,652 --> 01:10:35,213
Speaker 2: cheers Worzel. Yeah, I mean, but I mean, you know,

1412
01:10:35,213 --> 01:10:37,093
Speaker 2: are you really as long as you're not sitting on fire?

1413
01:10:37,173 --> 01:10:39,972
Speaker 2: I mean, there's not a lot of racket and fire breathing.

1414
01:10:40,133 --> 01:10:41,812
Speaker 3: No, and it's good to watch if they know what

1415
01:10:41,853 --> 01:10:45,333
Speaker 3: they're doing. Even if they don't know what they're doing.

1416
01:10:44,692 --> 01:10:46,572
Speaker 2: Someone's got a good trick and then people can stand

1417
01:10:46,572 --> 01:10:48,852
Speaker 2: around them in a circle enjoy it. If I was

1418
01:10:48,893 --> 01:10:50,412
Speaker 2: to set up a table outside of shop on a

1419
01:10:50,412 --> 01:10:53,692
Speaker 2: public street and sell knickknacks and brick a brack, would

1420
01:10:53,692 --> 01:10:55,652
Speaker 2: that be legal or is a permit required? If so,

1421
01:10:55,732 --> 01:10:58,772
Speaker 2: maybe buskers should do the same. Permit required must have

1422
01:10:58,853 --> 01:11:01,412
Speaker 2: been a reasonable standard. Well there is. As I was

1423
01:11:01,412 --> 01:11:04,293
Speaker 2: saying before, there are an Auckland any way, and I

1424
01:11:04,293 --> 01:11:06,213
Speaker 2: assume it's the same. You have to hold a license.

1425
01:11:06,253 --> 01:11:08,213
Speaker 2: Anyone performing in a public place must hold a current

1426
01:11:08,452 --> 01:11:11,852
Speaker 2: Auckland Council street perform a license. But the thing is,

1427
01:11:12,853 --> 01:11:16,213
Speaker 2: you know how much is that police if someone sets

1428
01:11:16,293 --> 01:11:19,293
Speaker 2: up just on a street making a terrible racket. And

1429
01:11:19,333 --> 01:11:23,892
Speaker 2: also there's nothing in these provisions to get a license

1430
01:11:24,213 --> 01:11:25,852
Speaker 2: that you have to prove that you can actually play

1431
01:11:25,893 --> 01:11:28,492
Speaker 2: the instrument you're going to play, So you're quite you

1432
01:11:28,492 --> 01:11:31,133
Speaker 2: can get a license and just go out and be horrific.

1433
01:11:31,652 --> 01:11:34,372
Speaker 3: I don't think that's on the sixer say is get

1434
01:11:34,412 --> 01:11:36,372
Speaker 3: a Matt and Tyler. There was a busker in Henderson

1435
01:11:36,412 --> 01:11:38,652
Speaker 3: back in the day with a ukulele that only had

1436
01:11:38,692 --> 01:11:42,372
Speaker 3: one string, and he would repeatedly just play one court

1437
01:11:42,492 --> 01:11:46,612
Speaker 3: again and again, just ding ding ding ding over and

1438
01:11:46,652 --> 01:11:48,333
Speaker 3: over again. I loved him.

1439
01:11:48,333 --> 01:11:51,253
Speaker 2: He was great. Yeah, because I had to go at

1440
01:11:51,253 --> 01:11:53,053
Speaker 2: the guy on k Road back in the day and

1441
01:11:53,093 --> 01:11:55,852
Speaker 2: he's passed away tragically, who used to just shrum the

1442
01:11:55,853 --> 01:11:59,692
Speaker 2: guitar and play any courts. And I said that I

1443
01:11:59,732 --> 01:12:01,333
Speaker 2: had to go at him, and a lot of people

1444
01:12:01,452 --> 01:12:04,012
Speaker 2: texted back and said he was actually a fantastic human being.

1445
01:12:04,333 --> 01:12:06,372
Speaker 2: And whilst you sat out there for many many years

1446
01:12:06,532 --> 01:12:08,133
Speaker 2: just strumming away and didn't learn how to play the

1447
01:12:08,133 --> 01:12:10,652
Speaker 2: guitar at all, he was much loved in the community. Yes,

1448
01:12:10,732 --> 01:12:13,892
Speaker 2: so I think there is, you know, some leeway here

1449
01:12:14,133 --> 01:12:16,973
Speaker 2: if you're just a really really really good dude like

1450
01:12:17,372 --> 01:12:19,492
Speaker 2: this guy John was, then maybe you can get away.

1451
01:12:19,532 --> 01:12:20,652
Speaker 2: So there wasn't too loud either.

1452
01:12:20,812 --> 01:12:24,013
Speaker 3: Yeah. But you also mentioned the man in Queenstown with

1453
01:12:24,053 --> 01:12:26,053
Speaker 3: his dog and very cute and the dog if you

1454
01:12:26,093 --> 01:12:28,133
Speaker 3: haven't seen him, he plays a song and the dog

1455
01:12:29,133 --> 01:12:33,013
Speaker 3: howls along with Queenstown. In Queenstown. Sorry, Yeah, And if

1456
01:12:33,053 --> 01:12:35,612
Speaker 3: you're if you're in Queenstown. If you are a regular

1457
01:12:35,772 --> 01:12:37,372
Speaker 3: resident down there, love to hear from you at oh

1458
01:12:37,372 --> 01:12:39,452
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. How do the locals

1459
01:12:39,452 --> 01:12:40,372
Speaker 3: feel about dog.

1460
01:12:40,732 --> 01:12:43,772
Speaker 2: Man if you're trying to alfresco dine anywhere near where

1461
01:12:43,772 --> 01:12:45,932
Speaker 2: he is where he sets up down by the wolf there,

1462
01:12:46,333 --> 01:12:48,732
Speaker 2: it's not a good time. I will pay money to

1463
01:12:48,772 --> 01:12:52,293
Speaker 2: anyone with the did WeDo this this texture. I think

1464
01:12:52,333 --> 01:12:54,333
Speaker 2: that's a risky rule for life. Just give money to

1465
01:12:54,372 --> 01:12:56,412
Speaker 2: anyone with the dodo. But yeah, I mean a did

1466
01:12:56,492 --> 01:13:01,133
Speaker 2: really do. It's chill. It's chill. It's very different than

1467
01:13:01,213 --> 01:13:03,933
Speaker 2: smashing a bucket exactly.

1468
01:13:04,853 --> 01:13:07,972
Speaker 3: Guys. There's a person that plays a sex and Wellington

1469
01:13:08,093 --> 01:13:11,492
Speaker 3: off and plays outside our office in a garden in

1470
01:13:11,612 --> 01:13:14,973
Speaker 3: lambdon Key of coined the name Kenny Tree. He's not

1471
01:13:15,053 --> 01:13:18,412
Speaker 3: too bad though. First from Amos, oh eight hundred and

1472
01:13:18,412 --> 01:13:21,173
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Yeah, we'll

1473
01:13:21,173 --> 01:13:22,772
Speaker 3: come back with more of your stories really shortly. It

1474
01:13:22,853 --> 01:13:23,253
Speaker 3: is ten to.

1475
01:13:23,253 --> 01:13:27,133
Speaker 1: Three, the issues that affect you and a bit of

1476
01:13:27,133 --> 01:13:30,452
Speaker 1: fun along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons

1477
01:13:30,732 --> 01:13:33,092
Speaker 1: used talks'd be news talks.

1478
01:13:33,492 --> 01:13:36,532
Speaker 3: We're talking about busking and there's some great messages that

1479
01:13:36,572 --> 01:13:37,173
Speaker 3: have come through.

1480
01:13:37,412 --> 01:13:39,973
Speaker 2: Hi, guys. There was a guy and Polka Kohi that

1481
01:13:40,173 --> 01:13:42,453
Speaker 2: used to put a stereo in the bush with harmonica

1482
01:13:42,492 --> 01:13:44,572
Speaker 2: playing and would have a harmonica in his mouth and

1483
01:13:44,572 --> 01:13:47,692
Speaker 2: Brent to pretend to be playing. It was so Chris

1484
01:13:48,893 --> 01:13:51,652
Speaker 2: that move that person on. If you haven't taken the

1485
01:13:51,692 --> 01:13:56,173
Speaker 2: time to learn how to play the harmonicasing tasering.

1486
01:13:55,812 --> 01:13:59,452
Speaker 3: Oh God, love to try they don't they ross.

1487
01:14:00,053 --> 01:14:03,372
Speaker 2: Your experience, guys, bloody good your experiences with busking?

1488
01:14:04,933 --> 01:14:08,372
Speaker 19: I was. I was brought up in Ponga Nui and

1489
01:14:08,973 --> 01:14:12,053
Speaker 19: late eighties early nineties and got into brass banding as

1490
01:14:12,053 --> 01:14:15,452
Speaker 19: a kid, and by about the age of eleven or twelve,

1491
01:14:15,492 --> 01:14:17,732
Speaker 19: I was good enough to get through a couple of

1492
01:14:17,732 --> 01:14:21,173
Speaker 19: hours of Christmas carols outside the two dollar shop, and

1493
01:14:21,253 --> 01:14:23,852
Speaker 19: even in those days I'd make fifty or sixty bucks

1494
01:14:23,893 --> 01:14:24,293
Speaker 19: an hour.

1495
01:14:25,213 --> 01:14:25,852
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

1496
01:14:25,853 --> 01:14:28,572
Speaker 19: And the good thing with the brass instruments is that

1497
01:14:28,572 --> 01:14:30,333
Speaker 19: that you can hear them from miles off, and so

1498
01:14:30,893 --> 01:14:32,972
Speaker 19: people would have their money out by the time they

1499
01:14:32,973 --> 01:14:35,372
Speaker 19: got to me and throw it into my case and

1500
01:14:35,812 --> 01:14:37,492
Speaker 19: Mum would drop me off and then tell me when

1501
01:14:37,492 --> 01:14:39,092
Speaker 19: she was going to pick me up, and then we'd

1502
01:14:39,093 --> 01:14:41,772
Speaker 19: count the money in the car and I'd moan about

1503
01:14:41,772 --> 01:14:42,893
Speaker 19: going to do it, and she was like, if I

1504
01:14:42,933 --> 01:14:45,253
Speaker 19: could earn that kind of money, it'd be out there

1505
01:14:45,293 --> 01:14:47,532
Speaker 19: every hour of every day playing Christmas girls.

1506
01:14:47,652 --> 01:14:49,612
Speaker 2: Was that on the trumpet? Was that your brass and side?

1507
01:14:49,652 --> 01:14:50,293
Speaker 19: It was on a corner?

1508
01:14:50,452 --> 01:14:53,293
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's lovely though a trumpet?

1509
01:14:53,333 --> 01:14:55,612
Speaker 2: And so you were decent, so you weren't torturing people,

1510
01:14:55,652 --> 01:14:56,652
Speaker 2: it sounded our counts.

1511
01:14:57,333 --> 01:15:00,053
Speaker 19: No, No, I was. I was, you know, relatively good

1512
01:15:00,093 --> 01:15:01,973
Speaker 19: by kind of eleven or twelve. And then I had

1513
01:15:02,013 --> 01:15:05,333
Speaker 19: a mate whose dad owned the right price supermarket and

1514
01:15:05,412 --> 01:15:08,093
Speaker 19: so we then played duets and do five or six

1515
01:15:08,173 --> 01:15:10,573
Speaker 19: hour I was a day for the three weeks before Christmas,

1516
01:15:10,973 --> 01:15:13,093
Speaker 19: and generally people liked it, but you'd get you'd get

1517
01:15:13,093 --> 01:15:15,293
Speaker 19: some people say you bugger off you here last time

1518
01:15:15,333 --> 01:15:18,412
Speaker 19: I was here, and you know, but yeah, that's my

1519
01:15:18,412 --> 01:15:18,852
Speaker 19: my story.

1520
01:15:18,853 --> 01:15:20,013
Speaker 4: I hope you never do it now.

1521
01:15:20,173 --> 01:15:22,652
Speaker 2: How big was your repertoire ross? How many Christmas carols?

1522
01:15:22,652 --> 01:15:23,013
Speaker 2: Did you know?

1523
01:15:23,612 --> 01:15:28,253
Speaker 19: They're about one hundred and five in the book. Oh well, okay,

1524
01:15:27,333 --> 01:15:30,452
Speaker 19: you many many Christmas carols that you would never have

1525
01:15:30,532 --> 01:15:32,732
Speaker 19: heard of. And other people wandered, I think what we

1526
01:15:32,732 --> 01:15:35,133
Speaker 19: were playing, but but yeah, it was. It was a

1527
01:15:35,173 --> 01:15:36,012
Speaker 19: good old repertoire.

1528
01:15:36,093 --> 01:15:38,253
Speaker 3: Did you ever run into some of the buskers who

1529
01:15:38,253 --> 01:15:40,213
Speaker 3: had been there for some time and did they challenge

1530
01:15:40,213 --> 01:15:41,812
Speaker 3: you or maybe off you as some advice?

1531
01:15:42,853 --> 01:15:46,133
Speaker 19: No, no, not really. We kind of were the two

1532
01:15:46,173 --> 01:15:47,652
Speaker 19: dollars shop. All you had to do was go in

1533
01:15:47,652 --> 01:15:49,612
Speaker 19: and say can I busk outside? And they say, yeah,

1534
01:15:49,612 --> 01:15:51,213
Speaker 19: of course, go for it. And then there were no

1535
01:15:51,293 --> 01:15:53,372
Speaker 19: permits or anything like that, and we sort of never

1536
01:15:53,412 --> 01:15:56,333
Speaker 19: got never had any issues that were taking your one

1537
01:15:56,372 --> 01:15:59,652
Speaker 19: ounces turf. But it was it was it felt like

1538
01:15:59,692 --> 01:16:01,372
Speaker 19: the old days when you kind of got away with

1539
01:16:01,412 --> 01:16:03,852
Speaker 19: anything and there were Yeah, it was pretty easy money.

1540
01:16:03,973 --> 01:16:06,133
Speaker 2: You're still blessing the corner these days.

1541
01:16:06,213 --> 01:16:10,652
Speaker 19: Ross play Euphonium now, oh Euphonium, which is like the

1542
01:16:11,772 --> 01:16:15,692
Speaker 19: mini tuber. So yeah, went on to that just when

1543
01:16:15,692 --> 01:16:18,013
Speaker 19: I finished school. I live and Nelson now playing the

1544
01:16:18,053 --> 01:16:21,492
Speaker 19: Nelson Brass Band, and you know, so it's a lifelong

1545
01:16:21,532 --> 01:16:23,452
Speaker 19: thing and we still play Christmas carols, but I certainly

1546
01:16:23,492 --> 01:16:24,933
Speaker 19: don't make sixty bucks in our doing it.

1547
01:16:25,612 --> 01:16:29,692
Speaker 2: If you're if you're blasting out, you know, I don't know.

1548
01:16:29,692 --> 01:16:32,732
Speaker 2: I come all you faithful on the euphonium. I'd flick

1549
01:16:32,772 --> 01:16:34,532
Speaker 2: your five bucks. I was walking past.

1550
01:16:34,572 --> 01:16:37,412
Speaker 19: I had great preps. PEPs not this time are evident.

1551
01:16:38,893 --> 01:16:40,253
Speaker 3: Right, we'll see you down in Nelson.

1552
01:16:41,572 --> 01:16:44,532
Speaker 2: If you ever or everyone aklaning around Christmas, set up

1553
01:16:44,532 --> 01:16:47,333
Speaker 2: down stairs at New stik CB and we'll flick you

1554
01:16:47,412 --> 01:16:47,732
Speaker 2: some money.

1555
01:16:47,812 --> 01:16:50,652
Speaker 3: Yep, there we go, right, a couple of tecks to

1556
01:16:50,692 --> 01:16:53,932
Speaker 3: wrap this up. Guys, there's a big difference between liking

1557
01:16:54,013 --> 01:16:57,452
Speaker 3: types of music and appreciating it. I hate the really

1558
01:16:57,572 --> 01:17:00,293
Speaker 3: off the wall jazz, but I will appreciate the telling

1559
01:17:00,333 --> 01:17:00,852
Speaker 3: if they are good.

1560
01:17:01,213 --> 01:17:03,612
Speaker 2: There you go. I got two stories about buskers. A

1561
01:17:03,692 --> 01:17:05,772
Speaker 2: chap in our town has a guitar with only one string.

1562
01:17:06,053 --> 01:17:08,333
Speaker 2: You've already read that one out. I'm a muppet shark.

1563
01:17:08,652 --> 01:17:09,173
Speaker 4: There you go.

1564
01:17:11,772 --> 01:17:14,772
Speaker 2: Shout out to the brother Cassio tone from old Hamilton.

1565
01:17:15,053 --> 01:17:17,372
Speaker 2: The guy would have his cassio keyboard on demo mode.

1566
01:17:17,652 --> 01:17:23,173
Speaker 3: That that is so good. I like that. Right, great discussion,

1567
01:17:23,333 --> 01:17:27,452
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for that. Coming up after three o'clock,

1568
01:17:27,492 --> 01:17:30,293
Speaker 3: we want to have a chat about essential life skills

1569
01:17:30,333 --> 01:17:33,612
Speaker 3: that everyone should know. This is on the back of

1570
01:17:33,772 --> 01:17:35,692
Speaker 3: Mechanics being a bit worried that a lot of us

1571
01:17:35,732 --> 01:17:38,412
Speaker 3: don't know how to change a tire and don't know

1572
01:17:38,412 --> 01:17:40,852
Speaker 3: how to check the oil that is coming up very shortly,

1573
01:17:40,933 --> 01:17:43,492
Speaker 3: but love to hear from you. Oh, eight hundred eighty

1574
01:17:43,652 --> 01:17:46,852
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. It is four

1575
01:17:46,893 --> 01:17:50,013
Speaker 3: minutes to three. We'll see you after new Sport amwather.

1576
01:18:12,692 --> 01:18:17,213
Speaker 1: Your new home are insightful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie

1577
01:18:17,253 --> 01:18:20,572
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk.

1578
01:18:20,452 --> 01:18:24,892
Speaker 3: Sebby Good afternoons here, welcome back into the show. Seven

1579
01:18:25,093 --> 01:18:27,652
Speaker 3: pass three right, this is going to be a good hour.

1580
01:18:28,133 --> 01:18:30,812
Speaker 3: If your car broke down, could you fix it? So

1581
01:18:30,893 --> 01:18:35,172
Speaker 3: from tire blowouts to break fluid blunders, even seasoned drivers

1582
01:18:35,333 --> 01:18:38,253
Speaker 3: are making simple mistakes that could turn dangerous. This is

1583
01:18:38,253 --> 01:18:40,972
Speaker 3: according to mechanics, and they say it's a worrying sign

1584
01:18:41,133 --> 01:18:44,652
Speaker 3: of how far we've drifted from the basics. So one

1585
01:18:44,772 --> 01:18:47,253
Speaker 3: of the mechanics spoken to for the article. His name

1586
01:18:47,333 --> 01:18:50,933
Speaker 3: is Craig Draper. He's had twenty seven years in the

1587
01:18:50,973 --> 01:18:53,852
Speaker 3: business and he has seen customers coming into the workshop

1588
01:18:53,893 --> 01:18:57,172
Speaker 3: with all sorts of problems, many of them easily fixable

1589
01:18:57,213 --> 01:18:59,532
Speaker 3: at home. He says, from the flat tires with slow leaks,

1590
01:18:59,532 --> 01:19:03,412
Speaker 3: to empty washer bottles and of even they haven't even

1591
01:19:03,412 --> 01:19:05,772
Speaker 3: got the bonded up, he says, and found the washer bottle.

1592
01:19:05,812 --> 01:19:08,572
Speaker 3: It's fairly accessible. You just fill it up with some

1593
01:19:08,652 --> 01:19:11,173
Speaker 3: water and you're good to go. But they can't even

1594
01:19:11,173 --> 01:19:11,532
Speaker 3: find it.

1595
01:19:11,692 --> 01:19:14,692
Speaker 2: I think this is bigger than cars. I think there

1596
01:19:14,732 --> 01:19:17,253
Speaker 2: are so many people out there now that can't do

1597
01:19:17,372 --> 01:19:24,932
Speaker 2: anything all practical, absolutely impractical. I think it's okay. As

1598
01:19:24,933 --> 01:19:28,692
Speaker 2: I said before, my dad and his brother can do anything,

1599
01:19:29,093 --> 01:19:32,692
Speaker 2: and they just can build, do fix anything. They grew

1600
01:19:32,732 --> 01:19:37,173
Speaker 2: up on farms and obviously my granddad taught them everything. Yeah,

1601
01:19:37,173 --> 01:19:39,173
Speaker 2: but it's amazing. Like my uncle Tim just he built

1602
01:19:39,173 --> 01:19:40,612
Speaker 2: a deck out the front of the shed he built

1603
01:19:40,652 --> 01:19:41,812
Speaker 2: at his house and he's eighting.

1604
01:19:41,973 --> 01:19:44,293
Speaker 3: He sounds confident. He's a term I'd trust one.

1605
01:19:44,652 --> 01:19:47,572
Speaker 2: He's just knocking things together. My dad can knock anything together.

1606
01:19:47,893 --> 01:19:50,133
Speaker 2: If he comes up with something, he can fix it,

1607
01:19:50,372 --> 01:19:53,892
Speaker 2: do it. There's just a level of practicality that everyone

1608
01:19:54,013 --> 01:19:57,012
Speaker 2: used to have, and I've got less than my dad,

1609
01:19:57,412 --> 01:19:59,973
Speaker 2: and I fear my kids may have less than me.

1610
01:20:00,372 --> 01:20:00,572
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1611
01:20:00,853 --> 01:20:03,372
Speaker 2: Like, for example, in the weekend, I was fixing a

1612
01:20:03,372 --> 01:20:06,973
Speaker 2: banister at our house and it just struck me that

1613
01:20:07,053 --> 01:20:09,492
Speaker 2: I hadn't asked my kids to come and help. I

1614
01:20:09,572 --> 01:20:11,532
Speaker 2: just did it, Whereas when I was a kid, my

1615
01:20:11,612 --> 01:20:14,972
Speaker 2: dad would always say, hey, Matthew, I'm doing this, come

1616
01:20:15,013 --> 01:20:17,093
Speaker 2: and help get the screw driver. And he didn't need

1617
01:20:17,093 --> 01:20:18,812
Speaker 2: my help because I made it much harder because I

1618
01:20:18,853 --> 01:20:22,053
Speaker 2: was a useless kid. But it was about teaching me

1619
01:20:22,093 --> 01:20:25,492
Speaker 2: how to use the you know, the tools, and how

1620
01:20:25,492 --> 01:20:28,372
Speaker 2: to do things. And so I just think there's so

1621
01:20:28,532 --> 01:20:31,333
Speaker 2: many people that are so incredibly and practical that you

1622
01:20:31,372 --> 01:20:37,213
Speaker 2: can't believe how little they know. This as this mechanics saying,

1623
01:20:37,372 --> 01:20:42,293
Speaker 2: if you can't change the windscreen wipe of fluid, should

1624
01:20:42,293 --> 01:20:45,213
Speaker 2: you even be driving a car. If you are driving

1625
01:20:45,213 --> 01:20:48,052
Speaker 2: a car, you definitely should be able to change a tire.

1626
01:20:48,772 --> 01:20:51,892
Speaker 2: That is, it's insane that people would go out on

1627
01:20:51,893 --> 01:20:53,852
Speaker 2: the road and not know how to change a tire.

1628
01:20:54,532 --> 01:20:58,132
Speaker 2: But the thing with cars now and oil changes. For example,

1629
01:20:58,213 --> 01:21:01,452
Speaker 2: people only open the bonnet when it comes to the service.

1630
01:21:01,812 --> 01:21:04,293
Speaker 2: The bonnet gets open twice a year, so people have

1631
01:21:04,333 --> 01:21:06,173
Speaker 2: got no idea what's going on then, And part of

1632
01:21:06,173 --> 01:21:07,812
Speaker 2: that is because most of the things in cars now

1633
01:21:07,853 --> 01:21:11,213
Speaker 2: are electron But what it got me thinking about is

1634
01:21:11,253 --> 01:21:15,532
Speaker 2: what are the basics, the absolute minimums that you should

1635
01:21:15,572 --> 01:21:18,213
Speaker 2: teach your kids. I'm not talking about just cars. Yeah,

1636
01:21:18,213 --> 01:21:21,492
Speaker 2: I'm talking about across the board, because there are kids

1637
01:21:21,532 --> 01:21:23,452
Speaker 2: out there that are going out into the world eighteen

1638
01:21:23,532 --> 01:21:26,612
Speaker 2: nineteen twenty that wouldn't even know where the fuse box

1639
01:21:26,692 --> 01:21:28,492
Speaker 2: is in the house yep, And so they wouldn't even

1640
01:21:28,492 --> 01:21:30,412
Speaker 2: go down and check the fuses if something happened.

1641
01:21:30,572 --> 01:21:32,412
Speaker 3: Oh it's across the board, isn't it. And I forget

1642
01:21:32,452 --> 01:21:35,253
Speaker 3: about I mean, we can talk about aspects of cars,

1643
01:21:35,372 --> 01:21:39,092
Speaker 3: but anything in the running of a household, for example.

1644
01:21:39,133 --> 01:21:42,973
Speaker 3: There's so many little life skills that everybody should know

1645
01:21:43,013 --> 01:21:44,293
Speaker 3: that just wasn't passed down.

1646
01:21:44,612 --> 01:21:44,852
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1647
01:21:44,973 --> 01:21:48,452
Speaker 2: So, and is that our job to teach our kids

1648
01:21:48,452 --> 01:21:51,452
Speaker 2: to be practical? That is that one of the things

1649
01:21:51,492 --> 01:21:54,092
Speaker 2: of bringing up kids that you teach them the bare

1650
01:21:54,293 --> 01:21:58,652
Speaker 2: basics of doing life, such as changing attire, such as

1651
01:21:58,732 --> 01:22:03,372
Speaker 2: some just some some basic plumbing knowledge.

1652
01:22:03,492 --> 01:22:06,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, even finding where the dipstick is for the oil,

1653
01:22:06,372 --> 01:22:09,572
Speaker 3: because there I get why people would know where that

1654
01:22:09,732 --> 01:22:11,732
Speaker 3: is until they take it into the mechanic. But if

1655
01:22:11,732 --> 01:22:13,812
Speaker 3: you're going on a long distance journey and you don't

1656
01:22:13,853 --> 01:22:16,692
Speaker 3: know how to test if you need a bit of

1657
01:22:16,732 --> 01:22:19,732
Speaker 3: a top up on oil, then you're crazy because then

1658
01:22:19,812 --> 01:22:21,732
Speaker 3: what if if your car seize is up? And I

1659
01:22:21,812 --> 01:22:24,692
Speaker 3: just say that because someone in my household almost got

1660
01:22:24,732 --> 01:22:27,612
Speaker 3: to that point where the engine almost seized up because

1661
01:22:27,652 --> 01:22:29,692
Speaker 3: they had no idea where to put the oil. I

1662
01:22:29,853 --> 01:22:31,812
Speaker 3: was furious when I looked in there and there was

1663
01:22:31,973 --> 01:22:34,892
Speaker 3: not a drop of oil in the engine, and I thought, cheapers,

1664
01:22:35,133 --> 01:22:37,612
Speaker 3: you almost stuffed this car. So oh, I didn't know

1665
01:22:37,853 --> 01:22:39,013
Speaker 3: where you freaking should.

1666
01:22:38,732 --> 01:22:43,372
Speaker 2: Off Muppet, Muppet. Well, as this Texas said, kids these

1667
01:22:43,412 --> 01:22:45,933
Speaker 2: days can't even change a light bulb. I don't know

1668
01:22:45,973 --> 01:22:50,372
Speaker 2: how they dress themselves. I mean, a lightbulb surely is

1669
01:22:50,572 --> 01:22:52,572
Speaker 2: a basic. There's no one out there that can't change

1670
01:22:52,572 --> 01:22:55,253
Speaker 2: a light bulb. Surely there's no child that can't change

1671
01:22:55,253 --> 01:22:55,812
Speaker 2: a light bulb.

1672
01:22:56,173 --> 01:22:58,732
Speaker 3: Wow, if you've got a child, child.

1673
01:22:58,732 --> 01:23:01,492
Speaker 2: No sorry, child, teenager that you're willing to send out

1674
01:23:01,532 --> 01:23:03,572
Speaker 2: into the world, obviously there's a five year old that

1675
01:23:03,572 --> 01:23:04,933
Speaker 2: can't change the light bulb and shouldn't be.

1676
01:23:05,053 --> 01:23:07,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if I look at these, you know, I mean,

1677
01:23:07,452 --> 01:23:10,692
Speaker 3: these sort of light bulbs aren't don't exist in many households.

1678
01:23:10,692 --> 01:23:12,293
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't know if too many people around here

1679
01:23:12,293 --> 01:23:14,253
Speaker 3: would know how to change these halligen ones.

1680
01:23:14,412 --> 01:23:16,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, what about this the other day. So we

1681
01:23:16,372 --> 01:23:19,012
Speaker 2: had a power cut in our house and I came

1682
01:23:19,053 --> 01:23:21,572
Speaker 2: back home and I was told that the oven doesn't

1683
01:23:21,572 --> 01:23:24,532
Speaker 2: work anymore. And I was like, well, you just have

1684
01:23:24,652 --> 01:23:27,692
Speaker 2: to on a smear oven. You have to just reset it. Yeah,

1685
01:23:27,732 --> 01:23:31,012
Speaker 2: so it works again after a power that's a basic. Yeah.

1686
01:23:31,492 --> 01:23:33,532
Speaker 2: People were trying people in my house, trying to call

1687
01:23:34,093 --> 01:23:36,932
Speaker 2: an oven repair looking up an oven repair person, trying

1688
01:23:36,933 --> 01:23:37,812
Speaker 2: to bring an electrician.

1689
01:23:38,133 --> 01:23:42,052
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. What are the basic

1690
01:23:42,173 --> 01:23:45,452
Speaker 3: life skills that everybody should know? Love to hear from you.

1691
01:23:45,853 --> 01:23:50,173
Speaker 3: It is twelve past three news talks there be and

1692
01:23:50,333 --> 01:23:53,253
Speaker 3: we've asked you the question, what are the basic life

1693
01:23:53,452 --> 01:23:56,772
Speaker 3: essential skills that everyone needs? And they probably don't have

1694
01:23:56,853 --> 01:23:59,093
Speaker 3: to the same extent anymore. Oh eight hundred eighty ten

1695
01:23:59,133 --> 01:24:00,293
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call.

1696
01:24:00,612 --> 01:24:02,133
Speaker 2: I mean, people are taking it right back to the

1697
01:24:02,253 --> 01:24:05,692
Speaker 2: very basics. And I agree, how to do your washing?

1698
01:24:06,452 --> 01:24:08,572
Speaker 2: So there is lots of kids that go in world

1699
01:24:08,612 --> 01:24:10,253
Speaker 2: then don't know how to do their washing. I've got

1700
01:24:10,293 --> 01:24:12,572
Speaker 2: a shameful story when I first went flatting because I'd

1701
01:24:12,612 --> 01:24:15,213
Speaker 2: never cooked. I learned a lot of practical stuff around

1702
01:24:15,213 --> 01:24:17,453
Speaker 2: the house and the farm, but I had three sisters,

1703
01:24:17,492 --> 01:24:19,852
Speaker 2: and whatever happened, I didn't end up in the cooking rotation.

1704
01:24:21,013 --> 01:24:22,852
Speaker 2: But me and my mate we went flatting when we

1705
01:24:22,853 --> 01:24:25,492
Speaker 2: were eighteen and we tried to make pasta. And I

1706
01:24:25,532 --> 01:24:28,812
Speaker 2: tried to roast the pasta. I don't know how to

1707
01:24:28,812 --> 01:24:30,333
Speaker 2: turn it. I was like, why is it so breaking?

1708
01:24:30,372 --> 01:24:30,612
Speaker 4: And not?

1709
01:24:31,293 --> 01:24:31,652
Speaker 2: Anyway?

1710
01:24:31,853 --> 01:24:33,933
Speaker 3: Well, also, we didn't have Google back then. Is that

1711
01:24:34,013 --> 01:24:36,452
Speaker 3: you might have googled how to cook pasta, but roasting pasta,

1712
01:24:36,452 --> 01:24:37,492
Speaker 3: that's up there. Andy.

1713
01:24:37,532 --> 01:24:40,133
Speaker 2: Do you think changing tires as a basic that you

1714
01:24:40,213 --> 01:24:43,013
Speaker 2: need to teach kids in this world people need to

1715
01:24:43,013 --> 01:24:43,652
Speaker 2: get before?

1716
01:24:44,173 --> 01:24:44,812
Speaker 6: Yep, for sure.

1717
01:24:44,853 --> 01:24:47,093
Speaker 20: But just before I answered that one, Matt, did your

1718
01:24:47,133 --> 01:24:48,812
Speaker 20: dare ever send you to the tool box to get

1719
01:24:48,812 --> 01:24:49,892
Speaker 20: a left handed screwed rider?

1720
01:24:50,732 --> 01:24:53,093
Speaker 2: I have had that played on me as a child.

1721
01:24:53,133 --> 01:24:57,133
Speaker 2: I remember that one. I I fell for that one.

1722
01:24:57,173 --> 01:24:57,692
Speaker 2: That's for sure.

1723
01:24:58,612 --> 01:25:01,812
Speaker 20: Yeah, no, yeah, definitely it's changing a tie. But I

1724
01:25:01,812 --> 01:25:04,812
Speaker 20: have two issues with changing tires, Like I'm set, healthy

1725
01:25:04,853 --> 01:25:08,213
Speaker 20: and strong. Yep, but the tie has been put on

1726
01:25:08,772 --> 01:25:12,852
Speaker 20: a mechanic with his talk wrench, he can.

1727
01:25:12,732 --> 01:25:15,172
Speaker 6: Hardly get well, you can't get the blowy. That's i'ndone

1728
01:25:15,492 --> 01:25:16,812
Speaker 6: if if I was a woman, on.

1729
01:25:16,772 --> 01:25:19,173
Speaker 20: The side of the road and had had a flat

1730
01:25:19,213 --> 01:25:21,852
Speaker 20: tire and I knew how to change it. They wouldn't

1731
01:25:21,893 --> 01:25:23,812
Speaker 20: be able to undo the blooming nuts on the on

1732
01:25:23,893 --> 01:25:24,372
Speaker 20: the tire.

1733
01:25:24,572 --> 01:25:27,173
Speaker 3: I thought that was incredibly dangerous to do it too tight.

1734
01:25:27,213 --> 01:25:32,452
Speaker 20: Andy, Yeah, well, but anyway, that's what they do. But

1735
01:25:32,652 --> 01:25:35,093
Speaker 20: one question I do have is that you know, in

1736
01:25:35,093 --> 01:25:38,932
Speaker 20: the modern cars, which like twenty ten onwards, they don't

1737
01:25:38,933 --> 01:25:39,772
Speaker 20: have stair tires.

1738
01:25:40,133 --> 01:25:41,173
Speaker 19: Yeah they have.

1739
01:25:41,333 --> 01:25:46,333
Speaker 20: They have the you know, the bluey stuff or whatever

1740
01:25:46,372 --> 01:25:49,772
Speaker 20: they pump into the tire. My question is, and someone

1741
01:25:49,812 --> 01:25:52,253
Speaker 20: just said to this to me the other day, if

1742
01:25:52,293 --> 01:25:55,532
Speaker 20: you do use that you tire, they throw your tire away.

1743
01:25:55,572 --> 01:25:58,093
Speaker 6: They can't use it again. You can't clear that stuff out.

1744
01:25:58,173 --> 01:25:58,692
Speaker 11: Is that right?

1745
01:25:59,293 --> 01:25:59,492
Speaker 4: Oh?

1746
01:25:59,732 --> 01:26:01,213
Speaker 3: I don't know the question of that. But I don't

1747
01:26:01,253 --> 01:26:02,972
Speaker 3: have a speed tire on my car, and I've got

1748
01:26:02,973 --> 01:26:05,612
Speaker 3: one of those little systems, and I worry about the day.

1749
01:26:05,652 --> 01:26:08,013
Speaker 3: I've got a hues at Andy that I I you know,

1750
01:26:08,093 --> 01:26:10,133
Speaker 3: you've reminded me. Actually I've got to go out and

1751
01:26:10,133 --> 01:26:11,772
Speaker 3: buy a spear Torro and just make room for it.

1752
01:26:11,812 --> 01:26:14,253
Speaker 3: Because it's a plug in hybrid. There's not much room

1753
01:26:14,293 --> 01:26:16,293
Speaker 3: for it. But I don't mind I'll just give up

1754
01:26:16,293 --> 01:26:18,452
Speaker 3: my boot space because if I ever get caught without

1755
01:26:18,492 --> 01:26:20,492
Speaker 3: a proper tire, then bugger that.

1756
01:26:21,652 --> 01:26:24,293
Speaker 20: Yeah but yeah, so I wonder if anyone out there

1757
01:26:24,293 --> 01:26:26,892
Speaker 20: could tell us whether those tires who use it, where

1758
01:26:27,093 --> 01:26:27,972
Speaker 20: those tires are ruined.

1759
01:26:28,293 --> 01:26:30,333
Speaker 2: I'd like to know that as well. A hundred eighty

1760
01:26:30,452 --> 01:26:32,173
Speaker 2: ten eighty nine two nine two. If you know, if

1761
01:26:32,213 --> 01:26:33,972
Speaker 2: you've got what did you call it? A guey tire?

1762
01:26:35,013 --> 01:26:36,053
Speaker 3: What? What the heck is it?

1763
01:26:36,093 --> 01:26:37,652
Speaker 2: What's it called guey tire filler?

1764
01:26:37,933 --> 01:26:39,253
Speaker 6: It's a figm?

1765
01:26:39,333 --> 01:26:43,173
Speaker 2: I think foamy tire filler. What one thing, one thing

1766
01:26:43,333 --> 01:26:45,692
Speaker 2: that people the mistake people make is cranking the car

1767
01:26:45,772 --> 01:26:48,772
Speaker 2: before they are loosen the bolts. Yes, before you loosen

1768
01:26:48,812 --> 01:26:49,213
Speaker 2: the nuts.

1769
01:26:49,253 --> 01:26:49,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to.

1770
01:26:49,732 --> 01:26:51,772
Speaker 2: You got to keep that on the ground otherwise you

1771
01:26:51,772 --> 01:26:53,772
Speaker 2: don't get and then at least, no matter how small

1772
01:26:53,772 --> 01:26:55,572
Speaker 2: you are, you can jump up and down on the jack,

1773
01:26:55,652 --> 01:26:56,253
Speaker 2: I mean on the.

1774
01:26:57,732 --> 01:27:00,972
Speaker 3: And the tire wrench. The one challenging part of changing

1775
01:27:01,053 --> 01:27:03,213
Speaker 3: a tire, I think is just figuring out where to

1776
01:27:03,532 --> 01:27:05,933
Speaker 3: actually jack up the car, because I've seen people do

1777
01:27:06,053 --> 01:27:07,933
Speaker 3: that wrong before that they put the jack on the

1778
01:27:07,933 --> 01:27:11,572
Speaker 3: wrong pace and a mass of dent into I don't know,

1779
01:27:11,612 --> 01:27:13,973
Speaker 3: the fuel tank or something that's that's something you shouldn't do.

1780
01:27:14,452 --> 01:27:17,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, thanks for your call, Andy. We'll find that

1781
01:27:17,973 --> 01:27:21,093
Speaker 2: answer out for you. I didn't get taught anything about

1782
01:27:21,133 --> 01:27:23,492
Speaker 2: my parents growing up, but now I just YouTube everything.

1783
01:27:23,732 --> 01:27:26,532
Speaker 2: I mean, that is that is true? There is the

1784
01:27:26,692 --> 01:27:30,213
Speaker 2: absolute the explanation for everything you need to do.

1785
01:27:30,412 --> 01:27:30,812
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1786
01:27:31,053 --> 01:27:32,572
Speaker 2: I was trying to fix it that compleaning the other

1787
01:27:32,652 --> 01:27:34,972
Speaker 2: day and I was immediately like, just straight to get

1788
01:27:34,973 --> 01:27:37,572
Speaker 2: the YouTube tutorial and you just follow it through and

1789
01:27:37,893 --> 01:27:39,612
Speaker 2: you fix it. Yep, if you're willing to give it

1790
01:27:39,652 --> 01:27:39,812
Speaker 2: a go.

1791
01:27:40,452 --> 01:27:44,173
Speaker 3: But have we even lost that skill a little bit

1792
01:27:44,213 --> 01:27:46,412
Speaker 3: to research to figure out how to do something. I

1793
01:27:46,492 --> 01:27:49,612
Speaker 3: just wonder some people would just instead of going to

1794
01:27:49,652 --> 01:27:52,852
Speaker 3: Google and saying, why is this not working, they freak

1795
01:27:52,973 --> 01:27:54,892
Speaker 3: out and just start yelling at anybody in the house.

1796
01:27:54,933 --> 01:27:56,333
Speaker 3: I'd saying it's not working.

1797
01:27:56,612 --> 01:27:58,293
Speaker 2: I love the idea of someone going back in time,

1798
01:27:58,333 --> 01:28:00,452
Speaker 2: and there's a thought thing where in our heads we

1799
01:28:00,492 --> 01:28:02,932
Speaker 2: go if we were suddenly put back in time a thousand,

1800
01:28:03,053 --> 01:28:05,852
Speaker 2: two thousand years or whatever, we'd be like, look at

1801
01:28:05,853 --> 01:28:08,532
Speaker 2: this amazing things I know so much. Yeah, and you

1802
01:28:08,652 --> 01:28:10,612
Speaker 2: describe a phone and they go, can you make one?

1803
01:28:10,732 --> 01:28:10,812
Speaker 8: No?

1804
01:28:11,093 --> 01:28:13,013
Speaker 2: You describe electricity, and you go, how do you get it?

1805
01:28:13,053 --> 01:28:16,213
Speaker 2: I don't know, And then they'd go, okay, well we'll

1806
01:28:16,612 --> 01:28:22,173
Speaker 2: kill and eat you. Maria. You've got something that you

1807
01:28:22,253 --> 01:28:23,772
Speaker 2: think everyone should know how to do.

1808
01:28:26,133 --> 01:28:28,212
Speaker 21: Yes, float.

1809
01:28:28,612 --> 01:28:30,133
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good one.

1810
01:28:30,732 --> 01:28:32,333
Speaker 3: It's a very good one.

1811
01:28:31,973 --> 01:28:33,133
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1812
01:28:33,412 --> 01:28:35,532
Speaker 21: A lot of people don't know how to float. Just

1813
01:28:35,612 --> 01:28:37,012
Speaker 21: to lie there on the.

1814
01:28:36,893 --> 01:28:41,892
Speaker 2: Water without moving, yeah, before you even swim. Just be

1815
01:28:41,973 --> 01:28:43,732
Speaker 2: able to stay with your head above the water.

1816
01:28:44,372 --> 01:28:48,053
Speaker 21: I mean that's yeah, and you and your feet up, yeah,

1817
01:28:48,133 --> 01:28:53,412
Speaker 21: and your feet you know. Yeah, I've taught the grandchildren.

1818
01:28:53,492 --> 01:28:56,452
Speaker 21: We have competitions, you know, the can float the longest,

1819
01:28:56,492 --> 01:29:00,412
Speaker 21: you know, without moving, without moving, without using up any

1820
01:29:00,612 --> 01:29:02,013
Speaker 21: energy whatsoever.

1821
01:29:02,213 --> 01:29:03,012
Speaker 15: Just float.

1822
01:29:03,293 --> 01:29:05,612
Speaker 3: Yeah. And who taught you, Marie. I take it that

1823
01:29:05,692 --> 01:29:07,333
Speaker 3: was passed down from your parents.

1824
01:29:06,973 --> 01:29:14,012
Speaker 21: And it was my my swimming instructor who's long gone now.

1825
01:29:14,133 --> 01:29:17,213
Speaker 21: But yeah, he taught me. And so when I teach

1826
01:29:17,293 --> 01:29:20,652
Speaker 21: the kids how to swim, you know, my grandchildren, I

1827
01:29:20,772 --> 01:29:22,693
Speaker 21: used all his methods.

1828
01:29:24,253 --> 01:29:26,892
Speaker 2: They did throw them in the deep end and let

1829
01:29:26,973 --> 01:29:28,372
Speaker 2: them figure out for themselves.

1830
01:29:29,532 --> 01:29:31,612
Speaker 15: He actually did do that one day.

1831
01:29:31,572 --> 01:29:34,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good way to learn some kids.

1832
01:29:34,612 --> 01:29:37,372
Speaker 21: But but yeah, but if you can float, especially you know,

1833
01:29:37,492 --> 01:29:40,812
Speaker 21: like I'm here in Hawks Bay, you know, was with

1834
01:29:41,213 --> 01:29:43,293
Speaker 21: the water stuff. You know, I just worry how many

1835
01:29:43,333 --> 01:29:46,013
Speaker 21: kids out there, don't they they did get stuck and

1836
01:29:46,213 --> 01:29:49,812
Speaker 21: say they panic. But if you just lie there with

1837
01:29:50,013 --> 01:29:54,173
Speaker 21: your feed up and you can float without moving using

1838
01:29:54,253 --> 01:29:54,852
Speaker 21: up any.

1839
01:29:54,732 --> 01:29:57,293
Speaker 2: Energy, hugely important.

1840
01:29:57,532 --> 01:29:59,372
Speaker 21: And there's a lot of there's a lot of adults

1841
01:29:59,372 --> 01:30:00,492
Speaker 21: that don't know how to float either.

1842
01:30:00,732 --> 01:30:03,093
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the thing is that people that don't know

1843
01:30:03,293 --> 01:30:07,173
Speaker 2: flail about in a crazy way when actually it's quite

1844
01:30:07,173 --> 01:30:10,012
Speaker 2: simple to float. You don't need to flail around crazily

1845
01:30:10,053 --> 01:30:12,492
Speaker 2: and deep under you can just if you out to

1846
01:30:12,492 --> 01:30:14,933
Speaker 2: do it. That's a really good point, Mariah. Yeah, I was.

1847
01:30:15,013 --> 01:30:17,572
Speaker 2: I was in some swimming with my son the other

1848
01:30:17,612 --> 01:30:20,133
Speaker 2: day and I was just sort of, you know, treating water,

1849
01:30:20,173 --> 01:30:21,852
Speaker 2: and he was treating water and it is really high

1850
01:30:21,853 --> 01:30:23,572
Speaker 2: out of the water, like so almost up so his

1851
01:30:23,692 --> 01:30:25,532
Speaker 2: chest was out of the water, and I was like,

1852
01:30:25,612 --> 01:30:25,852
Speaker 2: it's a.

1853
01:30:25,853 --> 01:30:26,372
Speaker 4: Lot of work.

1854
01:30:26,452 --> 01:30:27,852
Speaker 2: What the hell are you doing? He was just doing

1855
01:30:27,893 --> 01:30:30,852
Speaker 2: casually talking to me, and he's like egg beating and

1856
01:30:30,933 --> 01:30:33,213
Speaker 2: I've never heard about that. Egg beating. There's a thing

1857
01:30:33,213 --> 01:30:35,013
Speaker 2: where you move your legs around.

1858
01:30:35,293 --> 01:30:37,093
Speaker 3: And was he doggy pedaling? At the same time.

1859
01:30:37,173 --> 01:30:39,333
Speaker 2: No, no, no hands. So you just egg beat with

1860
01:30:39,333 --> 01:30:41,253
Speaker 2: your feet and you can rise up out of the

1861
01:30:41,333 --> 01:30:42,652
Speaker 2: water like a bloody merman.

1862
01:30:43,053 --> 01:30:44,852
Speaker 3: That's a talon. Yeah, that's a lot of power in

1863
01:30:44,853 --> 01:30:45,133
Speaker 3: the fece.

1864
01:30:45,213 --> 01:30:45,412
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1865
01:30:45,492 --> 01:30:49,053
Speaker 2: That comes from water polo. Yeah, water, water polo Yeah,

1866
01:30:49,093 --> 01:30:50,132
Speaker 2: water whatever.

1867
01:30:50,412 --> 01:30:52,812
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, water polo. That's it. Oh one hundred and

1868
01:30:52,893 --> 01:30:56,293
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. What is

1869
01:30:56,412 --> 01:30:58,732
Speaker 3: an essential life skill? Rob says, learned how to go

1870
01:30:58,772 --> 01:30:59,452
Speaker 3: to work every day?

1871
01:30:59,532 --> 01:31:02,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's up there, thread a needle and sew on

1872
01:31:02,812 --> 01:31:06,812
Speaker 2: a button. Yes, there you go home Economics. People are

1873
01:31:06,812 --> 01:31:10,372
Speaker 2: throwing out shirts because I remember one of my sons

1874
01:31:10,372 --> 01:31:12,053
Speaker 2: said to me, why did my shirts keep coming? What

1875
01:31:12,133 --> 01:31:14,052
Speaker 2: are these extra buttons for? That comes to the shirt?

1876
01:31:14,133 --> 01:31:17,053
Speaker 2: I said, because people used to sew them on when

1877
01:31:17,093 --> 01:31:17,812
Speaker 2: a button popped.

1878
01:31:17,933 --> 01:31:20,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, bring back sewing. Oh eight hundred eighty ten

1879
01:31:20,452 --> 01:31:26,253
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. It's twenty two past three.

1880
01:31:27,053 --> 01:31:30,412
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons. Call oh eight hundred

1881
01:31:30,492 --> 01:31:32,612
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB.

1882
01:31:32,893 --> 01:31:36,253
Speaker 3: Good afternoon. We're talking about basic essential life skills that

1883
01:31:36,333 --> 01:31:38,452
Speaker 3: everyone should know. On the back of an article of

1884
01:31:38,532 --> 01:31:41,612
Speaker 3: mechanics who are very worried about the lack of practical

1885
01:31:41,692 --> 01:31:44,773
Speaker 3: skills in New Zealand, particularly with younger drivers.

1886
01:31:45,532 --> 01:31:48,933
Speaker 2: Do they still have manual training at intermediates? Do you

1887
01:31:48,973 --> 01:31:53,292
Speaker 2: still do cooking and would work in metalwork?

1888
01:31:53,412 --> 01:31:56,852
Speaker 3: I hope. So we called it homech economics, which was

1889
01:31:56,893 --> 01:31:59,052
Speaker 3: sewing and cooking we had.

1890
01:31:59,133 --> 01:32:01,492
Speaker 2: I got kicked out of anyway, let's not go into it.

1891
01:32:01,213 --> 01:32:02,973
Speaker 3: Put Oh no, no, come on, tell the story. You

1892
01:32:03,013 --> 01:32:04,532
Speaker 3: got kicked out of? What the cooking class?

1893
01:32:04,612 --> 01:32:06,093
Speaker 2: I thought would be funny too. I got kicked out

1894
01:32:06,093 --> 01:32:07,652
Speaker 2: of all of those classes actually, but one of them

1895
01:32:07,692 --> 01:32:09,892
Speaker 2: I got kicked out of for putting all the like

1896
01:32:09,973 --> 01:32:14,372
Speaker 2: baking soda into the flowerdge. Immature, it was, well, I

1897
01:32:14,452 --> 01:32:17,532
Speaker 2: was a mature. I was eleven, but I was an

1898
01:32:17,532 --> 01:32:20,492
Speaker 2: amature eleven A leader. Have I said your name right?

1899
01:32:21,732 --> 01:32:21,892
Speaker 18: Oh?

1900
01:32:21,973 --> 01:32:23,093
Speaker 8: Yes, hi hi.

1901
01:32:24,492 --> 01:32:26,973
Speaker 22: This was a really interesting thing because there's quite a

1902
01:32:26,973 --> 01:32:30,452
Speaker 22: few things that it's that basic things that our kids

1903
01:32:30,452 --> 01:32:33,372
Speaker 22: don't know or should know. But the first time was

1904
01:32:33,933 --> 01:32:37,412
Speaker 22: you never travel anywhere and look with in a vehicle.

1905
01:32:37,772 --> 01:32:41,133
Speaker 22: Make sure your vehicle always has a spare tire. My

1906
01:32:41,532 --> 01:32:44,492
Speaker 22: father in law, it wasn't my dad, but it was

1907
01:32:44,532 --> 01:32:46,732
Speaker 22: my father Will always said to me and my husband,

1908
01:32:47,293 --> 01:32:51,532
Speaker 22: you never travel anywhere without spare tire, because that's just crazy.

1909
01:32:51,933 --> 01:32:53,213
Speaker 21: I was just asking to trouble.

1910
01:32:54,412 --> 01:32:59,093
Speaker 22: Yeah, in regard to that goofy stuff, I do have

1911
01:32:59,133 --> 01:33:03,532
Speaker 22: an EV and I do have that goofy stuff, but

1912
01:33:03,612 --> 01:33:06,892
Speaker 22: I don't I don't use it. When I first bought

1913
01:33:06,933 --> 01:33:11,093
Speaker 22: my EV, oldman at the time that you don't need

1914
01:33:11,333 --> 01:33:15,053
Speaker 22: a spare tire, you just need the goop. I didn't know. No,

1915
01:33:15,293 --> 01:33:19,333
Speaker 22: I want a tire, yeah, and I insisted on getting

1916
01:33:19,333 --> 01:33:22,053
Speaker 22: a tire. And I still use the spare tire, but

1917
01:33:22,093 --> 01:33:25,133
Speaker 22: I've never used the group. And I and what you're

1918
01:33:25,173 --> 01:33:28,892
Speaker 22: saying mechanics saying, yeah, that stuff is terrible.

1919
01:33:30,333 --> 01:33:31,772
Speaker 2: So did you have to did you have to pay

1920
01:33:31,812 --> 01:33:34,213
Speaker 2: extra for the tire? And we did that. Was there

1921
01:33:34,253 --> 01:33:35,852
Speaker 2: a space for the tire but they didn't put it

1922
01:33:35,893 --> 01:33:39,133
Speaker 2: in there? Or or did you have to do they

1923
01:33:39,213 --> 01:33:39,892
Speaker 2: know I didn't.

1924
01:33:40,452 --> 01:33:42,372
Speaker 22: I didn't pay extra. I insisted on the.

1925
01:33:42,333 --> 01:33:42,892
Speaker 21: Tire, right.

1926
01:33:43,013 --> 01:33:43,173
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1927
01:33:43,652 --> 01:33:46,293
Speaker 2: It seems to me that that's an absolute, absolute basic.

1928
01:33:46,333 --> 01:33:48,253
Speaker 2: And I know that people say there's no room in

1929
01:33:47,933 --> 01:33:53,652
Speaker 2: the cars and such, Yeah, but the tire should come even.

1930
01:33:53,692 --> 01:33:55,372
Speaker 2: And also because my car has got like one of

1931
01:33:55,372 --> 01:33:57,933
Speaker 2: those humiliating space save the tires. That just seems like

1932
01:33:57,973 --> 01:33:59,253
Speaker 2: a tom Cock cop out to me.

1933
01:34:00,812 --> 01:34:04,412
Speaker 22: You know, I insisted and some some TVs you can.

1934
01:34:04,452 --> 01:34:07,333
Speaker 22: It's a bracket you can put underneath your car. I

1935
01:34:07,372 --> 01:34:10,293
Speaker 22: didn't want that. One just sits in the boot. But

1936
01:34:10,572 --> 01:34:12,692
Speaker 22: it's a deep hard bot.

1937
01:34:12,933 --> 01:34:15,453
Speaker 2: So it's just it just sits loose in the boat.

1938
01:34:15,692 --> 01:34:16,732
Speaker 2: Isn't it bolted in?

1939
01:34:18,093 --> 01:34:18,852
Speaker 22: No, it's bolted in.

1940
01:34:19,173 --> 01:34:19,732
Speaker 8: It's bolted in.

1941
01:34:19,893 --> 01:34:20,692
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah.

1942
01:34:20,772 --> 01:34:23,492
Speaker 22: And now I've got a I've got a like a

1943
01:34:23,532 --> 01:34:26,772
Speaker 22: platform thing on top of that, so yet it's safe.

1944
01:34:27,492 --> 01:34:30,852
Speaker 22: The other things this lady was talking about, floating and

1945
01:34:31,013 --> 01:34:34,692
Speaker 22: absolute essentral things, you have no idea. I swim and

1946
01:34:34,812 --> 01:34:38,612
Speaker 22: I live pretty much over the bridge from behind our pools,

1947
01:34:38,973 --> 01:34:42,812
Speaker 22: and every summer I see so many people that do

1948
01:34:42,933 --> 01:34:46,333
Speaker 22: not know how to float. And I'm not being racist here,

1949
01:34:46,372 --> 01:34:50,333
Speaker 22: but I've noticed a lot of Indians it cannot float.

1950
01:34:50,572 --> 01:34:53,173
Speaker 22: And it's just the simplest thing on the earth, but

1951
01:34:53,253 --> 01:34:54,732
Speaker 22: a lot you know, if we can teach our tool

1952
01:34:54,812 --> 01:34:59,732
Speaker 22: to float, that will being absolute essential life school.

1953
01:35:00,093 --> 01:35:01,692
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for your call a leader. Yeah,

1954
01:35:01,732 --> 01:35:04,093
Speaker 2: I mean, boy, oh boy, you've got to be able

1955
01:35:04,093 --> 01:35:07,732
Speaker 2: to float in a country that's completely surrounded by water,

1956
01:35:08,013 --> 01:35:10,372
Speaker 2: ye a lot of coastline. Once you use the foam

1957
01:35:10,412 --> 01:35:12,572
Speaker 2: and your tire, you have to throw the tire away,

1958
01:35:12,612 --> 01:35:14,772
Speaker 2: and if the tire is split, not just a puncture,

1959
01:35:15,652 --> 01:35:17,732
Speaker 2: it won't work anyway. It's cheaper to call a tow

1960
01:35:17,772 --> 01:35:20,132
Speaker 2: truck then use that foam because you have to replace

1961
01:35:20,173 --> 01:35:22,572
Speaker 2: your tire and the foam. The foam can be up

1962
01:35:22,612 --> 01:35:25,133
Speaker 2: to one hundred and fifty dollars to replace. Then the

1963
01:35:25,173 --> 01:35:27,892
Speaker 2: cost of the tire. For me, it costs eight hundred

1964
01:35:27,893 --> 01:35:30,013
Speaker 2: and fifty nine dollars for the tire and foam, and

1965
01:35:30,013 --> 01:35:32,612
Speaker 2: I only had a puncture if I called the tow truck,

1966
01:35:32,612 --> 01:35:34,692
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty dollars tire up here and seventy

1967
01:35:34,732 --> 01:35:37,612
Speaker 2: dollars so much cheaper. Eight hundred and fifty nine dollars

1968
01:35:37,612 --> 01:35:37,852
Speaker 2: for a.

1969
01:35:37,812 --> 01:35:41,293
Speaker 3: Flat I'm telling you. If it's not like EV needed

1970
01:35:41,333 --> 01:35:43,293
Speaker 3: some more bad pr but a lot of the modern

1971
01:35:43,293 --> 01:35:45,972
Speaker 3: ones without a spare tire, it is crazy. It is crazy.

1972
01:35:45,973 --> 01:35:48,293
Speaker 3: And I'd take a space saver over no tie any

1973
01:35:48,372 --> 01:35:49,973
Speaker 3: day of the week. That goop, I just do not

1974
01:35:50,053 --> 01:35:51,052
Speaker 3: trust it, how.

1975
01:35:50,933 --> 01:35:56,093
Speaker 2: Long I judge anyone with a space saver. I used

1976
01:35:56,093 --> 01:35:57,852
Speaker 2: to work with a guy called Jeremy Wales who does

1977
01:35:57,893 --> 01:35:59,412
Speaker 2: seven sharp. He was on the show with me. He

1978
01:35:59,492 --> 01:36:03,333
Speaker 2: had a space saver tire on his car for two months.

1979
01:36:03,772 --> 01:36:06,213
Speaker 2: I thought, you lazy man.

1980
01:36:06,372 --> 01:36:07,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he could afford a new tire.

1981
01:36:08,372 --> 01:36:10,932
Speaker 2: I don't know. It was nothing to do with affording it.

1982
01:36:10,933 --> 01:36:13,892
Speaker 2: It was just getting around to it. Well, if you

1983
01:36:13,893 --> 01:36:15,372
Speaker 2: had a space to save a tire for more than

1984
01:36:15,412 --> 01:36:17,213
Speaker 2: three days, then I judge you.

1985
01:36:17,333 --> 01:36:19,372
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that if you get caught with a

1986
01:36:19,372 --> 01:36:21,692
Speaker 3: space over on and you're not heading to the tire shop,

1987
01:36:22,173 --> 01:36:22,732
Speaker 3: they can sting you.

1988
01:36:22,973 --> 01:36:24,213
Speaker 2: You can't go over eighty k.

1989
01:36:24,452 --> 01:36:26,653
Speaker 3: Okay, Well that's punishing. Yeah.

1990
01:36:26,692 --> 01:36:29,333
Speaker 2: Where would they know when you when you when you

1991
01:36:29,572 --> 01:36:30,532
Speaker 2: when you got a flaty?

1992
01:36:30,572 --> 01:36:32,572
Speaker 3: Well, I suppose I pulled you over.

1993
01:36:32,692 --> 01:36:34,492
Speaker 2: I just got one. I just got a flet So.

1994
01:36:34,492 --> 01:36:37,173
Speaker 3: You said that to me last week after eighty ten?

1995
01:36:37,253 --> 01:36:40,333
Speaker 3: Eighty is the number to call. What is basic life

1996
01:36:40,412 --> 01:36:41,812
Speaker 3: skills that everybody should know.

1997
01:36:42,133 --> 01:36:44,932
Speaker 2: Spear tire must be secured to pass the Warrener Fitness

1998
01:36:45,213 --> 01:36:47,333
Speaker 2: That's interesting. So you can drive around with all kinds

1999
01:36:47,372 --> 01:36:49,372
Speaker 2: of crap just floating around your boat like I have

2000
01:36:49,853 --> 01:36:52,133
Speaker 2: all kinds of sports gear, but a spear tire has

2001
01:36:52,173 --> 01:36:53,932
Speaker 2: to be secured. They lock they should remove that from

2002
01:36:53,933 --> 01:36:54,532
Speaker 2: the warring finness.

2003
01:36:54,532 --> 01:36:57,372
Speaker 3: That's stupid, that is weird. It is bang. On half

2004
01:36:57,452 --> 01:37:03,213
Speaker 3: past three, US Talk said the headlines.

2005
01:37:04,133 --> 01:37:07,293
Speaker 12: With blue bubble taxis it's no trouble with a blue

2006
01:37:07,333 --> 01:37:11,972
Speaker 12: bubble net. Producer AFCO says Chinese demand for KeyWe red

2007
01:37:12,053 --> 01:37:15,412
Speaker 12: meat has spiked as the US China tariff Tit for

2008
01:37:15,532 --> 01:37:19,412
Speaker 12: tat continues. A wet and wild forecast for the Upper

2009
01:37:19,452 --> 01:37:22,732
Speaker 12: North Island from Wednesday morning, with heavy rain and wind

2010
01:37:22,772 --> 01:37:27,653
Speaker 12: watches for Northland, Auckland, Great Barrier Island and Corimandel Peninsula.

2011
01:37:28,652 --> 01:37:32,732
Speaker 12: The Advertising Standards Authority has confirmed its received complaints about

2012
01:37:32,772 --> 01:37:38,092
Speaker 12: billboards mocking the Green Party. Labour is labeling a government

2013
01:37:38,093 --> 01:37:43,293
Speaker 12: proposal to change driver licensing a mix of sensible and careless.

2014
01:37:43,812 --> 01:37:47,053
Speaker 12: It says it supports zero alcohol tolerance and halving the

2015
01:37:47,093 --> 01:37:51,052
Speaker 12: demerit threshold, but not scrapping the final eighteen month test

2016
01:37:51,253 --> 01:37:55,532
Speaker 12: before a learner has a full license. Consultation on a

2017
01:37:55,572 --> 01:38:00,253
Speaker 12: new school sex education framework, not updated for about twenty years,

2018
01:38:00,692 --> 01:38:04,212
Speaker 12: is running until May nine. The drafts developed by experts

2019
01:38:04,253 --> 01:38:08,812
Speaker 12: and focuses on consent with little mention of gender. Inzen

2020
01:38:08,853 --> 01:38:12,333
Speaker 12: on air is allocated seven million dollars funding into four

2021
01:38:12,412 --> 01:38:16,372
Speaker 12: keyw productions, three new comedies and a second season of

2022
01:38:16,452 --> 01:38:21,012
Speaker 12: crime drama A Remarkable Place to Die The Moral Victories

2023
01:38:21,053 --> 01:38:25,972
Speaker 12: Liam Lawson should claim from Bahrain Grand Prix Grand Prix,

2024
01:38:25,973 --> 01:38:27,692
Speaker 12: I should say. You can see the full column at

2025
01:38:27,772 --> 01:38:31,052
Speaker 12: enzid Herald Premium. Now back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

2026
01:38:32,053 --> 01:38:34,412
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen. We're talking about essential life

2027
01:38:34,452 --> 01:38:36,812
Speaker 3: skills that everyone should know. What's back on the back

2028
01:38:36,853 --> 01:38:39,452
Speaker 3: of an article from mechanics who have been in the

2029
01:38:39,492 --> 01:38:41,772
Speaker 3: business for some time and they are very concerned about

2030
01:38:41,772 --> 01:38:44,932
Speaker 3: the lack of general knowledge when it comes to basic skills.

2031
01:38:44,933 --> 01:38:47,772
Speaker 2: So we're putting together a list of the absolute basics

2032
01:38:47,772 --> 01:38:49,932
Speaker 2: that you should teach your kids and or you should

2033
01:38:49,933 --> 01:38:52,372
Speaker 2: teach yourself if you're an adult out there in the world.

2034
01:38:53,173 --> 01:38:54,932
Speaker 2: Changing a tire seems to be one that we all

2035
01:38:54,973 --> 01:39:00,333
Speaker 2: agree on. Floating it make seems one. Yeah, I want

2036
01:39:00,333 --> 01:39:02,652
Speaker 2: to put CPR on the list there. You should be

2037
01:39:02,652 --> 01:39:05,452
Speaker 2: out and about CPR. You should know that when all

2038
01:39:05,452 --> 01:39:07,053
Speaker 2: the lights go out, when something goes out, to go

2039
01:39:07,053 --> 01:39:08,293
Speaker 2: and check the fuse bot.

2040
01:39:08,492 --> 01:39:10,052
Speaker 3: Hughesbox is a biggie a fuse box.

2041
01:39:10,053 --> 01:39:11,093
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people don't know that you

2042
01:39:11,133 --> 01:39:14,772
Speaker 2: definitely should be able to change a light bulb. Oh yeah, definitely, definitely.

2043
01:39:15,933 --> 01:39:18,532
Speaker 2: Humans are becoming so useless. It's an ideocracy, that's what's

2044
01:39:18,572 --> 01:39:20,732
Speaker 2: happening here. Because I was just about to say people

2045
01:39:20,732 --> 01:39:23,293
Speaker 2: should be able to change a light bulb. But of

2046
01:39:23,293 --> 01:39:24,652
Speaker 2: course they should be able to change the light bulb.

2047
01:39:24,652 --> 01:39:26,692
Speaker 2: But someone said that a lot of workplaces don't let

2048
01:39:26,732 --> 01:39:28,492
Speaker 2: you change a light bulb. I think if you work

2049
01:39:28,532 --> 01:39:31,052
Speaker 2: in a workplace that doesn't let you change a light bulb,

2050
01:39:31,093 --> 01:39:34,572
Speaker 2: you should question. You should definitely question, you know, the

2051
01:39:34,652 --> 01:39:35,692
Speaker 2: quality of management.

2052
01:39:35,812 --> 01:39:39,052
Speaker 3: So genetics are getting weaker. So your granddad was incredibly practical.

2053
01:39:39,093 --> 01:39:41,892
Speaker 3: Your dad was pretty good genetics. You were useless.

2054
01:39:41,973 --> 01:39:45,492
Speaker 2: It's not genetics, it's it's it's the mind. It's you've

2055
01:39:45,492 --> 01:39:49,093
Speaker 2: not been taught. It's what's the priority is falling off.

2056
01:39:49,333 --> 01:39:52,053
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm so useless compared to my dad, and

2057
01:39:52,853 --> 01:39:54,372
Speaker 2: I just fear my kids are going to be useless

2058
01:39:54,372 --> 01:39:56,173
Speaker 2: compared to me for the practical stuff.

2059
01:39:56,213 --> 01:39:57,532
Speaker 3: Did you sort it out? The banister in the inn,

2060
01:39:57,572 --> 01:39:59,013
Speaker 3: by the way, Yeah, I.

2061
01:39:58,973 --> 01:40:00,973
Speaker 2: Put up the banister in my house. But this is

2062
01:40:01,013 --> 01:40:02,372
Speaker 2: what got me thinking about it, because I was like,

2063
01:40:02,372 --> 01:40:04,293
Speaker 2: why didn't I demand my kids come and help me

2064
01:40:04,333 --> 01:40:06,452
Speaker 2: with it, because then they could they could have learned,

2065
01:40:06,732 --> 01:40:08,173
Speaker 2: but I couldn't be bothered because I just wanted to

2066
01:40:08,213 --> 01:40:12,052
Speaker 2: do quickly. Tyler is correct, that is dangerous to over

2067
01:40:12,093 --> 01:40:13,012
Speaker 2: titan wheal nuts.

2068
01:40:13,013 --> 01:40:13,253
Speaker 8: Thank you.

2069
01:40:13,253 --> 01:40:15,133
Speaker 2: The fact that he knew something as practical as this

2070
01:40:15,253 --> 01:40:17,612
Speaker 2: is proof that even a blind squirrel will find the

2071
01:40:17,612 --> 01:40:19,813
Speaker 2: odd acorn now and then that's Henry.

2072
01:40:19,612 --> 01:40:21,692
Speaker 3: Well said, thank you too, premature what you did.

2073
01:40:21,692 --> 01:40:23,612
Speaker 2: But Henry, I agree. I often say about Tyler, like

2074
01:40:23,652 --> 01:40:26,213
Speaker 2: even a stop clock is right twice a day, But

2075
01:40:26,532 --> 01:40:29,133
Speaker 2: to be fair, I think you're not quite up there

2076
01:40:29,133 --> 01:40:30,692
Speaker 2: with the stop clock. When it comes to our show.

2077
01:40:30,732 --> 01:40:32,372
Speaker 2: You're probably right once a week.

2078
01:40:32,492 --> 01:40:34,732
Speaker 3: And I mean, how long does a blind squirrel last.

2079
01:40:34,652 --> 01:40:36,293
Speaker 3: Let's be honest here, I don't think they make it

2080
01:40:36,333 --> 01:40:37,173
Speaker 3: adulthood today.

2081
01:40:37,973 --> 01:40:40,893
Speaker 2: Jack, your thoughts on practicality.

2082
01:40:41,973 --> 01:40:42,093
Speaker 14: Good.

2083
01:40:42,412 --> 01:40:45,052
Speaker 18: Let's hey, I've got two things to talk about. One,

2084
01:40:45,293 --> 01:40:49,133
Speaker 18: i'll give you the a great practical thing that's going

2085
01:40:49,213 --> 01:40:52,132
Speaker 18: to say thousands for the anctions out there. And second,

2086
01:40:52,133 --> 01:40:54,612
Speaker 18: I've got a theory on why a lot of this

2087
01:40:54,692 --> 01:40:55,532
Speaker 18: is kind of dropping off.

2088
01:40:55,692 --> 01:40:55,892
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2089
01:40:55,933 --> 01:40:56,173
Speaker 19: Good.

2090
01:40:57,253 --> 01:41:01,173
Speaker 18: So the first one is kidsit furniture flap back. Yes,

2091
01:41:02,452 --> 01:41:06,812
Speaker 18: you know, say well, I'll say, say, say thousands over

2092
01:41:06,893 --> 01:41:10,892
Speaker 18: a lifetime. We we just bought some for my girl's

2093
01:41:10,973 --> 01:41:13,692
Speaker 18: bed during some new draws and stuff like that. But

2094
01:41:13,772 --> 01:41:16,572
Speaker 18: I got them out there and they helped me assemble

2095
01:41:16,572 --> 01:41:20,333
Speaker 18: and held us and everything like that. It's just it's

2096
01:41:20,372 --> 01:41:23,173
Speaker 18: just stuff that it is quite technical, but you know

2097
01:41:23,213 --> 01:41:25,253
Speaker 18: you've got to do it actually once or twice and

2098
01:41:25,572 --> 01:41:27,933
Speaker 18: you get the hang of it. But by god, you

2099
01:41:27,973 --> 01:41:29,612
Speaker 18: know a lot of people wouldn't they how to do that?

2100
01:41:29,812 --> 01:41:30,692
Speaker 18: Save your thousands?

2101
01:41:31,732 --> 01:41:36,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there is I absolutely agreed Jack, and

2102
01:41:36,412 --> 01:41:39,213
Speaker 2: I love putting together a flat pack. I take a challenge,

2103
01:41:39,333 --> 01:41:43,293
Speaker 2: but I am amazed sometimes at the poor quality of

2104
01:41:43,333 --> 01:41:46,772
Speaker 2: instructions on some flat packs. Yeah, you just think that

2105
01:41:46,853 --> 01:41:49,293
Speaker 2: you're selling this flat pack? Come on, draw a decent

2106
01:41:49,293 --> 01:41:53,132
Speaker 2: picture here, you've got you've got this. You're missing the basics,

2107
01:41:53,412 --> 01:41:55,892
Speaker 2: you know, like a tire one. Everyone talks about how

2108
01:41:55,933 --> 01:41:59,372
Speaker 2: are they they put really really good instructions together.

2109
01:41:59,133 --> 01:42:01,372
Speaker 3: When it's one page for a full on barbecue. Yeah,

2110
01:42:01,372 --> 01:42:02,652
Speaker 3: I think, come on, guys, you can do a bit

2111
01:42:02,652 --> 01:42:04,372
Speaker 3: better than that. But yeah, your.

2112
01:42:04,293 --> 01:42:07,852
Speaker 18: Point like that, one hundred percent agree with that as well.

2113
01:42:07,893 --> 01:42:09,133
Speaker 7: You paid for what you get as well.

2114
01:42:09,213 --> 01:42:11,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you a real rubber slap pack, you actually

2115
01:42:11,853 --> 01:42:13,172
Speaker 2: tend to get rubbish instructions.

2116
01:42:13,213 --> 01:42:15,812
Speaker 18: That's a really good point, yeah, exactly, and holds it

2117
01:42:15,933 --> 01:42:19,612
Speaker 18: and match up everything like that. But the reason I

2118
01:42:19,652 --> 01:42:23,333
Speaker 18: think this is dropping off is that, like you know,

2119
01:42:23,652 --> 01:42:27,092
Speaker 18: this kind of started with motor vehicles and motorivehicle maintenance

2120
01:42:27,093 --> 01:42:29,692
Speaker 18: and everything like that. And absolutely, but I mean, if

2121
01:42:29,692 --> 01:42:32,612
Speaker 18: you don't know where the window washing fluid is, oh

2122
01:42:32,652 --> 01:42:35,452
Speaker 18: my god, handy keysan that's here, and you know your

2123
01:42:35,612 --> 01:42:38,133
Speaker 18: your father or mother should go and handle their parent

2124
01:42:38,213 --> 01:42:43,293
Speaker 18: card as well. That is just yeah. But you know,

2125
01:42:44,372 --> 01:42:47,173
Speaker 18: I mean I'm what fifty one something like that. You know,

2126
01:42:47,772 --> 01:42:50,253
Speaker 18: cards were okay when I was a kid, but you

2127
01:42:50,293 --> 01:42:53,773
Speaker 18: know before that they broke down all the time. Reliability

2128
01:42:53,772 --> 01:42:56,652
Speaker 18: of vehicles has got so much better. They don't feed

2129
01:42:56,692 --> 01:43:00,293
Speaker 18: in oil, they don't drop oil. You don't need I mean,

2130
01:43:00,372 --> 01:43:02,652
Speaker 18: I remember going and you know, doing all that kind

2131
01:43:02,692 --> 01:43:05,532
Speaker 18: of stuff with my old Horry cards from the nineteen

2132
01:43:05,572 --> 01:43:09,452
Speaker 18: eighties and stuff like that, but modern car not so much.

2133
01:43:10,053 --> 01:43:11,692
Speaker 18: And you know a lot of the stuff that needs

2134
01:43:11,732 --> 01:43:15,612
Speaker 18: done is quite technical and everything like that. I can

2135
01:43:15,692 --> 01:43:18,692
Speaker 18: see why it's a dying ut I really really can. Yeah,

2136
01:43:18,732 --> 01:43:21,492
Speaker 18: but you know there's some on the on the flip

2137
01:43:21,532 --> 01:43:24,572
Speaker 18: side though, you know, you know, you go and you

2138
01:43:24,612 --> 01:43:27,932
Speaker 18: look at you know, twohuters and electronics and things like that,

2139
01:43:28,173 --> 01:43:32,973
Speaker 18: things that would mystify our parents and grandparents. You know,

2140
01:43:33,013 --> 01:43:35,612
Speaker 18: there's a skill sy and some of the answers that

2141
01:43:36,253 --> 01:43:38,492
Speaker 18: it's probably a little bit more robust than our So

2142
01:43:38,893 --> 01:43:42,492
Speaker 18: I think it's it's kind of changing time and changing needs.

2143
01:43:42,532 --> 01:43:45,052
Speaker 3: Really yeah point yeah, so one pointed.

2144
01:43:45,853 --> 01:43:47,452
Speaker 2: I thought, I can't remember who it was, but they're

2145
01:43:47,452 --> 01:43:49,892
Speaker 2: pointing out that most people can do things if they

2146
01:43:50,492 --> 01:43:53,772
Speaker 2: just stop, slow down, stare at it and think about

2147
01:43:53,812 --> 01:43:55,972
Speaker 2: it for a bit. One of the main reasons why

2148
01:43:56,013 --> 01:43:59,253
Speaker 2: people can't do things like say, the other day, I

2149
01:43:59,333 --> 01:44:01,333
Speaker 2: had to fix the door handle into one of my

2150
01:44:01,412 --> 01:44:04,293
Speaker 2: kids rooms, and I just went in and started doing it,

2151
01:44:04,293 --> 01:44:05,732
Speaker 2: going this is too hard, and I was thinking about

2152
01:44:05,732 --> 01:44:07,692
Speaker 2: getting someone to do it, and then I remember this

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01:44:07,893 --> 01:44:10,612
Speaker 2: thing I or I wish I could find the philosopher

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01:44:10,652 --> 01:44:12,692
Speaker 2: that was talking about. But it's just if you just

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01:44:12,732 --> 01:44:16,133
Speaker 2: slow down and steer at something and use the brain

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01:44:16,213 --> 01:44:17,692
Speaker 2: power that you would use on a lot of other

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01:44:17,732 --> 01:44:21,372
Speaker 2: things in your life, then you can actually work through it.

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01:44:21,412 --> 01:44:23,452
Speaker 2: But we just got into the set. You know, if

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01:44:23,492 --> 01:44:25,973
Speaker 2: you buy a new Apple laptop or an iPhone, we

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01:44:26,053 --> 01:44:28,053
Speaker 2: now have gone to this thing where they work immediately.

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01:44:28,213 --> 01:44:33,093
Speaker 2: Otherwise we get annoyed. So they're designed to be operational

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01:44:33,133 --> 01:44:34,892
Speaker 2: without having an instruction of manual.

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01:44:34,933 --> 01:44:36,772
Speaker 3: It's the slow thinking that we used to be very

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01:44:36,772 --> 01:44:39,692
Speaker 3: good at. Today's world, we're all about that fasting, which

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01:44:39,732 --> 01:44:40,372
Speaker 3: leads us on the truck.

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Speaker 2: So you might have someone that you know, as you

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01:44:42,412 --> 01:44:44,452
Speaker 2: say Jack a flat pack, they probably just go, I

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01:44:44,452 --> 01:44:45,532
Speaker 2: can't do it. I can't do it. But if they

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01:44:45,652 --> 01:44:49,572
Speaker 2: just slow down and actually think about it and lay

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01:44:49,652 --> 01:44:52,532
Speaker 2: everything out and not stress out, and actually back themselves

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01:44:52,532 --> 01:44:54,093
Speaker 2: that they can put it together, then I think most

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01:44:54,133 --> 01:44:56,412
Speaker 2: people would be able to put it together. Although I

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01:44:56,452 --> 01:44:59,532
Speaker 2: was running into a Boulder friend of mine and he

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01:44:59,652 --> 01:45:01,173
Speaker 2: was and I said, what are you working on today?

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01:45:01,173 --> 01:45:04,732
Speaker 2: And he goes, oh, I'm going around because a friend's

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01:45:05,293 --> 01:45:08,452
Speaker 2: bought five flat packs for a new house and they

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01:45:08,492 --> 01:45:10,932
Speaker 2: can't put them together. And I was thinking, that's shameful.

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01:45:11,053 --> 01:45:12,892
Speaker 2: I was thinking, I know that guy, and he's smarter

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01:45:12,893 --> 01:45:14,333
Speaker 2: than that. I bit he could if he just slowed

2180
01:45:14,333 --> 01:45:16,692
Speaker 2: down actually thought about it. Yeah, thanks to you called

2181
01:45:16,772 --> 01:45:18,133
Speaker 2: Jack and appreciate it.

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01:45:18,253 --> 01:45:20,293
Speaker 3: Just on there. On Jeck's point about the older cars,

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01:45:20,372 --> 01:45:25,892
Speaker 3: I mean for me, and I'm certainly not incredibly skillful

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01:45:25,893 --> 01:45:27,732
Speaker 3: when it comes to a car, but he's quite right

2185
01:45:27,893 --> 01:45:30,372
Speaker 3: that the old Lemons I used to have that broke

2186
01:45:30,412 --> 01:45:32,133
Speaker 3: down all the time and gave me so much grief.

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01:45:32,173 --> 01:45:34,052
Speaker 3: It was out of necessity that I had to figure

2188
01:45:34,093 --> 01:45:36,372
Speaker 3: out because you're broke wrong yep, and you needed to

2189
01:45:36,372 --> 01:45:38,133
Speaker 3: figure money and I needed to go.

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01:45:38,293 --> 01:45:38,692
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:45:38,812 --> 01:45:40,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, young young drivers don't need to do that because

2192
01:45:40,652 --> 01:45:41,412
Speaker 3: the cars are too good.

2193
01:45:41,492 --> 01:45:44,053
Speaker 2: This is a good text through here. How to use

2194
01:45:44,093 --> 01:45:47,293
Speaker 2: a fire extinguisher. Absolutely, you should teach your kids how

2195
01:45:47,293 --> 01:45:50,053
Speaker 2: to use a fire extinguisher so I can CPR. And

2196
01:45:50,093 --> 01:45:53,213
Speaker 2: how to use a fire extinguisher are a basic.

2197
01:45:53,133 --> 01:45:54,852
Speaker 3: I've never used one. I'm pretty sure you just pulled

2198
01:45:54,853 --> 01:45:56,812
Speaker 3: the trigger, don't you Can we find one around.

2199
01:45:56,612 --> 01:45:59,093
Speaker 2: Here, but which one to use and which one not

2200
01:45:59,133 --> 01:46:03,012
Speaker 2: to use? You know, and you know, just basic fire

2201
01:46:03,053 --> 01:46:05,572
Speaker 2: stuff like not firing a bunch of water at an

2202
01:46:05,572 --> 01:46:06,133
Speaker 2: oil fire.

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01:46:06,293 --> 01:46:08,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, yep. Good caol. Oh eight hundred eighty ten

2204
01:46:08,772 --> 01:46:11,372
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. It is eighteen to

2205
01:46:11,372 --> 01:46:11,812
Speaker 3: two four.

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01:46:13,572 --> 01:46:17,532
Speaker 1: Have a chat with the lads on Matt Heath and

2207
01:46:17,572 --> 01:46:19,892
Speaker 1: Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

2208
01:46:19,893 --> 01:46:21,532
Speaker 4: They'd be very.

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01:46:21,372 --> 01:46:25,293
Speaker 3: Good afternoon too. We're talking about basic life skills on

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01:46:25,452 --> 01:46:27,612
Speaker 3: the back of a great article that was in The

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01:46:27,812 --> 01:46:30,173
Speaker 3: Hero not too long ago. Peter.

2212
01:46:30,853 --> 01:46:33,333
Speaker 2: You're talking about a very basic one here, Peter, of

2213
01:46:33,333 --> 01:46:34,532
Speaker 2: a life school that everyone needs.

2214
01:46:35,692 --> 01:46:40,213
Speaker 18: Yeah, there's probably two. One actually two. Making your bed

2215
01:46:40,253 --> 01:46:43,452
Speaker 18: every day. No matter how many tasks you can't do

2216
01:46:43,612 --> 01:46:46,492
Speaker 18: during the day, you've already always completed one.

2217
01:46:46,692 --> 01:46:46,932
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2218
01:46:47,452 --> 01:46:49,452
Speaker 2: They do studies on people that make their bed every

2219
01:46:49,532 --> 01:46:53,013
Speaker 2: day and how much more they succeed in life. If

2220
01:46:53,013 --> 01:46:54,532
Speaker 2: you get up and make your bed, it just sets

2221
01:46:54,572 --> 01:46:57,972
Speaker 2: things right for the day. And yeah, you put a win.

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01:46:58,093 --> 01:47:00,532
Speaker 2: You put a win there. You've done something for yourself

2223
01:47:00,572 --> 01:47:02,412
Speaker 2: and for the future. That's that's a good one, Peter.

2224
01:47:03,732 --> 01:47:06,612
Speaker 18: And the second one, which I think is rarely strong,

2225
01:47:06,652 --> 01:47:11,733
Speaker 18: as how to cook using the hot water, I e. Noodles,

2226
01:47:12,732 --> 01:47:17,012
Speaker 18: camping food, actually start a fire. I think being able

2227
01:47:17,013 --> 01:47:21,172
Speaker 18: to cook with basic hot water it's there for everyone.

2228
01:47:21,253 --> 01:47:24,812
Speaker 18: It's not just an adult thing thing.

2229
01:47:24,853 --> 01:47:25,492
Speaker 7: It's important.

2230
01:47:25,933 --> 01:47:28,412
Speaker 3: You can extend it out, Peter to cooking in general, right,

2231
01:47:28,532 --> 01:47:31,333
Speaker 3: just general, A couple of meals up your sleeve, that

2232
01:47:31,412 --> 01:47:32,213
Speaker 3: you can bring to the.

2233
01:47:34,173 --> 01:47:38,013
Speaker 18: One hundred percent you to be able to survive on

2234
01:47:38,053 --> 01:47:40,772
Speaker 18: the basic basics. If you get lost in the bush

2235
01:47:40,812 --> 01:47:44,012
Speaker 18: and you've got no something able to start a fire

2236
01:47:44,572 --> 01:47:49,092
Speaker 18: and boiler boiler joke, sorry boiler billy, chuck your baked

2237
01:47:49,093 --> 01:47:52,173
Speaker 18: beans in there or whatever, you have to actually keep

2238
01:47:52,213 --> 01:47:54,333
Speaker 18: yourself alive. It is one of the best skills they

2239
01:47:54,333 --> 01:47:54,652
Speaker 18: ever had.

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01:47:55,372 --> 01:47:57,293
Speaker 2: Do you do you think you should some kind of

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01:47:57,333 --> 01:48:05,773
Speaker 2: trapping skills, trapping kill, something to eat.

2242
01:48:05,412 --> 01:48:09,892
Speaker 18: There's a are it's going to be a small percentage

2243
01:48:09,893 --> 01:48:11,053
Speaker 18: of people that will do that.

2244
01:48:11,173 --> 01:48:16,572
Speaker 2: You bring, you bring home a poor kickl you release

2245
01:48:16,612 --> 01:48:18,012
Speaker 2: it in the house and you say to your kids

2246
01:48:18,372 --> 01:48:21,412
Speaker 2: that better be dead for dinner or else you get

2247
01:48:21,452 --> 01:48:21,972
Speaker 2: no dinner.

2248
01:48:23,293 --> 01:48:27,173
Speaker 18: What what did you all of us guys catch when

2249
01:48:27,213 --> 01:48:35,093
Speaker 18: we were a little in creeks less.

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Speaker 2: Crawley, Yeah, Crawley, Yeah, yeah, I don't think I caught

2251
01:48:38,093 --> 01:48:43,052
Speaker 2: a few lobsters, Yeah, A couple of power yeah.

2252
01:48:42,893 --> 01:48:47,852
Speaker 6: Double yeah. That's where footage in government handy A.

2253
01:48:48,853 --> 01:48:49,372
Speaker 2: Quarter a bit of that.

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01:48:49,933 --> 01:48:50,173
Speaker 11: Yeah.

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01:48:50,973 --> 01:48:53,572
Speaker 2: I think thanks for you for you call Peter, appreciate it.

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01:48:53,612 --> 01:48:55,333
Speaker 3: I mean, the good thing about power is that they

2257
01:48:55,333 --> 01:48:58,132
Speaker 3: don't run away rather than you know, I always thoughts

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01:48:58,213 --> 01:49:01,173
Speaker 3: I'd love to get into hunting, but I know deep

2259
01:49:01,213 --> 01:49:02,932
Speaker 3: down I'm never going to be a hunter. It's never

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01:49:02,973 --> 01:49:03,412
Speaker 3: gonna work.

2261
01:49:03,933 --> 01:49:09,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I can't see that. I reckon it would

2262
01:49:09,492 --> 01:49:10,452
Speaker 2: be Wait.

2263
01:49:10,492 --> 01:49:12,932
Speaker 3: We need to exist and I love I love hiking

2264
01:49:12,973 --> 01:49:16,532
Speaker 3: and trampine and we're just.

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01:49:15,612 --> 01:49:18,213
Speaker 2: Just thinking people that would least like to be caught

2266
01:49:18,253 --> 01:49:21,852
Speaker 2: in the in the you know, out in the bush

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01:49:21,853 --> 01:49:25,693
Speaker 2: with least practical people anyway, no offense.

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01:49:26,053 --> 01:49:28,772
Speaker 3: That's why you carry a PLB helicopter ride out of

2269
01:49:28,772 --> 01:49:29,492
Speaker 3: the lads.

2270
01:49:29,572 --> 01:49:33,253
Speaker 2: Nothing that YouTube and GPT can't sort out. Cheers Peter.

2271
01:49:33,532 --> 01:49:36,492
Speaker 2: Yeah really yeah, can you know if you're if you're

2272
01:49:36,492 --> 01:49:38,612
Speaker 2: stuck in the in the in the bush, what about

2273
01:49:38,652 --> 01:49:41,532
Speaker 2: if you can't get your YouTube? You know and good

2274
01:49:41,772 --> 01:49:42,573
Speaker 2: and you're hungry.

2275
01:49:43,133 --> 01:49:45,372
Speaker 3: But if you can get YouTube out there, then at

2276
01:49:45,372 --> 01:49:47,133
Speaker 3: that point just called the police.

2277
01:49:47,333 --> 01:49:55,652
Speaker 2: How to kill Look it up on YouTube, Roger, Hi, guys.

2278
01:49:56,452 --> 01:50:00,812
Speaker 20: Now, it's a current all over the world and various

2279
01:50:00,893 --> 01:50:02,532
Speaker 20: cars and company cars.

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01:50:02,652 --> 01:50:05,692
Speaker 6: And I thought, as a retired I thought, I shatments

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01:50:05,732 --> 01:50:11,452
Speaker 6: of anice European car, uh a golf I love, and

2282
01:50:11,492 --> 01:50:14,812
Speaker 6: I had a picture three months ago and I look

2283
01:50:15,293 --> 01:50:18,572
Speaker 6: with company cars traveling I've changed so many tires, no

2284
01:50:18,612 --> 01:50:22,213
Speaker 6: problem at all. So I had this puncture. Oh Jack,

2285
01:50:23,372 --> 01:50:27,452
Speaker 6: what's happening? What's happening? Cannon schools. So the trap for

2286
01:50:27,973 --> 01:50:31,772
Speaker 6: anyone possibly buying a European car, it's a reverse thread.

2287
01:50:32,532 --> 01:50:37,532
Speaker 6: I was up rather than yes, right, I mean it's something.

2288
01:50:37,612 --> 01:50:39,333
Speaker 6: I mean I had to call the AA and they

2289
01:50:39,412 --> 01:50:42,692
Speaker 6: told me to reverse thread. Well it's not common knowledge.

2290
01:50:42,732 --> 01:50:43,812
Speaker 6: But so there's a trap.

2291
01:50:44,333 --> 01:50:47,652
Speaker 2: Yes, and also on on on guess canisters as well?

2292
01:50:47,692 --> 01:50:48,492
Speaker 2: It goes the other way.

2293
01:50:49,133 --> 01:50:51,253
Speaker 6: Well, I guess you're right. I don't know.

2294
01:50:51,772 --> 01:50:54,893
Speaker 2: There's many a person that's come a cropper with with

2295
01:50:55,053 --> 01:50:58,692
Speaker 2: the LPG canister on a barbecue because it goes the

2296
01:50:58,732 --> 01:50:59,053
Speaker 2: other way.

2297
01:50:59,173 --> 01:51:01,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, because what was the lifting lucy righty tidy? But

2298
01:51:01,692 --> 01:51:03,612
Speaker 3: you can throw that out the one because the Europeans

2299
01:51:03,652 --> 01:51:04,492
Speaker 3: have got different ideas.

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01:51:05,532 --> 01:51:06,293
Speaker 6: Yeah for sure.

2301
01:51:09,013 --> 01:51:11,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, defund the EU if they're not going to do

2302
01:51:11,973 --> 01:51:13,492
Speaker 2: lefty lucy tidy righty and.

2303
01:51:14,173 --> 01:51:16,253
Speaker 3: The program the tariffs cut them off.

2304
01:51:16,372 --> 01:51:19,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thousand percent tariffs on Europe until they go

2305
01:51:19,692 --> 01:51:21,012
Speaker 2: lefty lucy tidy riding.

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01:51:21,933 --> 01:51:24,692
Speaker 3: One hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

2307
01:51:25,013 --> 01:51:27,772
Speaker 3: It is eleven to four. Take a few more phone calls.

2308
01:51:27,853 --> 01:51:32,092
Speaker 1: Next, the big stories, the big issues, the big trends,

2309
01:51:32,293 --> 01:51:36,692
Speaker 1: and everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons.

2310
01:51:36,293 --> 01:51:39,972
Speaker 4: Used talks eNB News Talk z mb is eight.

2311
01:51:39,853 --> 01:51:41,612
Speaker 2: To four As Texas says, did you know that for

2312
01:51:41,652 --> 01:51:43,812
Speaker 2: the first time humans are going backwards with their IQ

2313
01:51:44,013 --> 01:51:46,852
Speaker 2: since the invention of the internet. Regards Stephen, I can

2314
01:51:46,933 --> 01:51:48,852
Speaker 2: believe that. I think if you spend any kind of

2315
01:51:48,893 --> 01:51:52,133
Speaker 2: time on TikTok, then you're you will go backwards intelligence.

2316
01:51:52,973 --> 01:51:57,372
Speaker 2: That's it. You basically are raising your mind or reels. Yeah,

2317
01:51:57,772 --> 01:52:00,492
Speaker 2: just doom scrolling is not good for people's attention span,

2318
01:52:00,973 --> 01:52:03,772
Speaker 2: and attention span is important for solving problems and a

2319
01:52:03,893 --> 01:52:06,692
Speaker 2: lot of being practical as solving problems.

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01:52:06,772 --> 01:52:10,092
Speaker 3: Yeah, nicely, said John. How are you this afternoon?

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01:52:11,412 --> 01:52:11,772
Speaker 2: Very good?

2322
01:52:11,812 --> 01:52:14,452
Speaker 23: Indeed, thanks guys, very good. Indeed, I'd like to share

2323
01:52:14,492 --> 01:52:17,732
Speaker 23: with you a week story is to how I was

2324
01:52:17,853 --> 01:52:20,732
Speaker 23: trained in the nineteen to late nineteen seventies. So I

2325
01:52:20,812 --> 01:52:24,333
Speaker 23: went over to London and I trained as a what

2326
01:52:24,412 --> 01:52:27,092
Speaker 23: they call a tour director for a company called Kenticki Travel,

2327
01:52:27,572 --> 01:52:31,053
Speaker 23: which did camping tours throughout Europe and also behind the

2328
01:52:31,093 --> 01:52:34,372
Speaker 23: Iron Curtain, and one of The interesting things was while

2329
01:52:34,412 --> 01:52:36,892
Speaker 23: we were being trained was we asked the guy who

2330
01:52:36,973 --> 01:52:39,972
Speaker 23: was training us, what happens if this happens? What happens

2331
01:52:39,973 --> 01:52:43,173
Speaker 23: if this happens? And he turned it back to us and.

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01:52:43,293 --> 01:52:45,652
Speaker 7: He said, well, look who do you turn to?

2333
01:52:46,692 --> 01:52:51,692
Speaker 23: And what we realized was no matter what arose, we

2334
01:52:51,812 --> 01:52:53,973
Speaker 23: didn't have cell phones or anything like that. That was

2335
01:52:54,093 --> 01:52:56,612
Speaker 23: just myself and the Aussie mate who was the driver,

2336
01:52:57,853 --> 01:53:01,412
Speaker 23: and made us feelize two things. One we were alone,

2337
01:53:01,692 --> 01:53:05,732
Speaker 23: but two we had the ability to sort out any

2338
01:53:05,933 --> 01:53:10,053
Speaker 23: problem that we came across. And I am still very

2339
01:53:10,093 --> 01:53:12,173
Speaker 23: good mates with my Aussie guy, and now he was

2340
01:53:12,213 --> 01:53:14,412
Speaker 23: a fitter and turner and he was my driver, so

2341
01:53:14,572 --> 01:53:17,213
Speaker 23: he had a set period of skills and I was

2342
01:53:17,612 --> 01:53:20,373
Speaker 23: okay with the passengers and looked after them into directions

2343
01:53:20,412 --> 01:53:22,732
Speaker 23: and that type of thing. But the other thing that

2344
01:53:22,812 --> 01:53:26,933
Speaker 23: I realized looking back is we never had English or

2345
01:53:26,973 --> 01:53:32,812
Speaker 23: American guys as drivers or two directors really because they

2346
01:53:33,013 --> 01:53:35,772
Speaker 23: didn't have the resilience that ANZACs had.

2347
01:53:36,412 --> 01:53:37,333
Speaker 19: Yeah, do that makes sense?

2348
01:53:38,372 --> 01:53:40,692
Speaker 3: Yeah to an American listening, it probably doesn't. But I

2349
01:53:40,772 --> 01:53:43,212
Speaker 3: get where you're coming from, is what out of necessity

2350
01:53:43,293 --> 01:53:45,692
Speaker 3: you think that's ingrained in our psyche as a New

2351
01:53:45,772 --> 01:53:47,173
Speaker 3: Zealander or someone from the UK.

2352
01:53:48,492 --> 01:53:48,652
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2353
01:53:48,732 --> 01:53:52,732
Speaker 23: Look, I think that Kiwis are genetically engineered risk takers.

2354
01:53:53,133 --> 01:53:56,093
Speaker 23: Now that means we can see a problem and we

2355
01:53:56,213 --> 01:53:59,253
Speaker 23: can back ourselves to solving it, and I think that's

2356
01:53:59,333 --> 01:54:00,612
Speaker 23: so important going forward.

2357
01:54:00,853 --> 01:54:06,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, hopefully that continues. Yeah, because it seems that people,

2358
01:54:07,372 --> 01:54:09,412
Speaker 2: you know, this is what started off this discussion. As

2359
01:54:09,492 --> 01:54:12,053
Speaker 2: I believe I am way less practical than my dad,

2360
01:54:12,612 --> 01:54:14,612
Speaker 2: and I believe my kids and this is my fault,

2361
01:54:15,532 --> 01:54:18,492
Speaker 2: slightly less practical than me, although I'm working on that,

2362
01:54:19,253 --> 01:54:21,852
Speaker 2: but you know, and what we're really doing is putting

2363
01:54:21,893 --> 01:54:24,013
Speaker 2: together a list today of things that we think are

2364
01:54:24,093 --> 01:54:27,652
Speaker 2: absolute basics that everyone should know. So ideally, as a parent,

2365
01:54:28,013 --> 01:54:30,012
Speaker 2: you teach these, but if you're an adult walking around

2366
01:54:30,013 --> 01:54:32,132
Speaker 2: and you don't know them, you can of course teach yourself.

2367
01:54:33,013 --> 01:54:35,293
Speaker 3: And I hope that one day you teach your children.

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Speaker 2: Teach boys slash men how to take a pee in public,

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Speaker 2: lou without doing an impression of a sprinkler. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean that is a basic.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's great. I don't even think you need to

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Speaker 3: teach that one.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I think some of that is

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Speaker 2: a statement I think. I think some people know how

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Speaker 2: to do it, but they're they're making a statement with it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: here we go. Here's the list of things that we think,

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Speaker 2: definitively from all your text and phone calls, that you

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Speaker 2: should know as an adult. How to do CPR, yes,

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Speaker 2: how to change a tire definitely. How to change the

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Speaker 2: light bulb. If you can't do that, you're a muppet

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Speaker 2: with a fuse boxes and how they work. How to

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Speaker 2: use a power drill, basic fire fighting skills that's big.

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Speaker 2: How to float ideally, how to swim yeah, basic cooking

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Speaker 2: a few dishes, what to do on a quake, how

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Speaker 2: to start a fire? Yes? And how to put together

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Speaker 2: a flat pack?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Good list?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good list?

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Speaker 3: Did we go? How did you do on that list?

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Speaker 2: I can do all those okay with a plum. With

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Speaker 2: a plum, right, I can't speak very well, but a

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Speaker 2: plum Okay.

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Speaker 3: I'll have looked through that list. There's a couple I

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Speaker 3: can't do, but by tomorrow I will score myself up.

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Speaker 2: All right. It's been a fantastic show. Thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for listening to The Mat and Tyler Afternoons podcast

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Speaker 2: will be out in about half an hour. If you

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Speaker 2: missed anything. We'll be back tomorrow Arvo for another Matt

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Speaker 2: and Tyler afternoons. Yep, we guess what My good buddy.

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