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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on an early edition with Smith City,

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Speaker 2: He'd be good morning at a six after five year

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Speaker 2: old news talks. It'd be great to have your company

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Speaker 2: this Thursday morning. Coming up. Labour leader Chris Hipkins is

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Speaker 2: with us from the UK Labour's plans to tax us more.

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Speaker 2: What exactly are they? New numbers out this morning? More

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Speaker 2: kiwis are now in Middle East hot spots than two

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Speaker 2: months ago. Why, there's also a new infrastructure report out.

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Speaker 2: We've got the details and Mitch mccanner's stateside Trump is

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Speaker 2: currently talking about some Iranian pots to assassinate him. He's

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Speaker 2: got all the details.

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Speaker 3: The agenda.

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Speaker 2: Israel is increasing its strikes and this is in preparation

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Speaker 2: for a possible ground incursion into Lebanon. This is the

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Speaker 2: latest from the Middle East. Some from Hispuller that these strikes,

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Speaker 2: that is, have come close to Tel Aviv, which Israel's

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Speaker 2: strikes have also been far reaching.

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Speaker 4: People here in Beirut who are attends, You know, we've

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Speaker 4: had three DA's of strikes here in Dahe another missile

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Speaker 4: strike in Jia only about twenty kilometers where I had

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Speaker 4: people messaging me to say that they heard that from

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Speaker 2: Have more on that in a second. An update on

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Speaker 2: the Boeing strike. Workers have declined an initial payoffer of

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Speaker 2: twenty five percent, instead voting to go on strike. Boeing

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Speaker 2: has now presented what they've called a best and final payoffer,

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Speaker 2: which includes a thirty percent pay rise. The union members

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Speaker 2: Remember that's costing Bow and Bowing half a billion dollars

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Speaker 2: a week the strike. Business New Zealand's forecasting gradual growth

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Speaker 2: out to September twenty twenty six, suggesting we could be

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Speaker 2: close to or possibly pass the worst of the economic downturn.

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Speaker 2: But there are still some challenges like rising debt, aging

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Speaker 2: popular which could impact health and super Those things are

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Speaker 5: Don't really tackle them at some stage.

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Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on early edition

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Speaker 3: with Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and a playing Store.

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Speaker 1: News talk zidby He's.

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Speaker 2: Gone eight after five nine nine two. The number to

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Speaker 2: text we spoke yesterday about southern Lebanon, and we spoke

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Speaker 2: that it would be very hard for Israel to go

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Speaker 2: this as Hesbilla far more weaponry than they had back then,

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Speaker 2: to read you this is from Israel's the Chief of

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Speaker 2: the General Staff, Israel's Defense Force. He says that the

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Speaker 2: your entry into these areas would be with force, which

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Speaker 2: of course it would have to be. So that is

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Speaker 3: The first Word on the News of the Day early

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Speaker 3: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture

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Speaker 2: News TALKSZBB, just gone five point thirteen. Interesting. So Keir Starmer,

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Speaker 2: well keeping actually a Tory policy which is if you

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Speaker 2: Boyd Swinburne is the Professor of Population Nutrition ucin University. Boyd,

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Speaker 5: Well, it's interesting, you know the UK have had nine

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Speaker 5: They have just now introduced bands on junk food marketing

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Speaker 2: What do you think is going to happen to us?

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Speaker 2: Are we're just going to keep getting fatter? Like when

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Speaker 5: about it. And this has changes in the in the environment.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we know what to do. Really, We've been

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Speaker 2: Do you think we're getting smarter about knowing what we're

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I don't think that the fall in childhood obesity

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Speaker 2: We can still have a choice, can't we. I mean,

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Speaker 5: Well, we can, but what we're surrounded by makes it

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's not a great number, is it. Professor. I

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Speaker 2: this morning. Hey, Nick, Hello, Ryan, good to have you

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Speaker 2: on the show again. That this is interesting that they're

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Speaker 6: But it's not what or how much we spend, it's

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Speaker 2: And we know we know that's going to be But

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Speaker 2: Nick, thanks so much for your time this morning. Nick Leggett,

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Speaker 2: Great to have your company this morning. Nine two nine

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Speaker 2: good morning. Things will come right in the Middle East,

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Speaker 2: according to Keir Starmer, when they release the sausages, says Neil, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the party conference released not the hostages but the sausages.

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Speaker 2: The return of the sausages the hostages wasn't great, was it? Anyway?

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Speaker 2: Lots more to come on that. Plus Chris Hipkins has

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Speaker 2: Good Morning, New Zealand. It is twenty four minutes away

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Speaker 2: from six. Great to have your company this morning. Chris

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Speaker 2: Hipkins is with us alive from Liverpool, of all places

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Speaker 2: around the country, starting with Cullum, Proctor and Dunedin Cullum,

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you. The Aurora Energy remaining in council hands.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right, Ryan. This comes after much deliberation and debate.

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Speaker 8: Mey Jills Raddicks says that ratepayers you the company as

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Speaker 8: How's your weather today, Callum, Rain develops this morning with

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Claire, Shechward's and christs this morning, Claire. The

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Speaker 9: Good morning, Ryan, Yes, and Engineering in Deed Disciplinary Committee

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Speaker 9: has upheld a complaint against Alan Ray. He's the man

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Speaker 2: All right, how's you weather, Claire cloud.

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Speaker 9: Increasing rain developing this evening, Nor that these will be

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Speaker 2: Mexis and Wellington max to rail enable the furies or

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Speaker 11: We're expecting a significant decision by the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: There the so called Golden Triangle. How's your weather in Wellington?

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Speaker 11: Max should be mainly find some very strong wins expected

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Speaker 2: Thank you NIVA's and Auckland Nava. Good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Now we've been looking forward to this one, the all

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Speaker 7: You've got it today celebrating fiftieth anniversary here in New Zealand,

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Speaker 7: She's going to be wearing sweatpants. She's going to be

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Speaker 2: Nice one, never thank you. It is twenty to six.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget Chrisipkins here before six and next Mitch McCann

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Speaker 3: International Correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 2: Who talks at the seventeen away from six is talk

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Speaker 2: President Vladimir Zelenski has sounded the alarm over the illumining

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Speaker 12: A really concerning speech, you could say, from Zelenski here

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Speaker 12: That Russia is planning attacks on Ukrainian power plants. Zelenski

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Speaker 12: drone strike any critical incident in the energy system could

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Speaker 12: lead to a nuclear disaster.

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Speaker 2: A day like that must never come.

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Speaker 12: And Zelenski also used his address this morning to remind

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Speaker 12: the world not to lose focus on his country's plight,

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Speaker 12: particularly given what's going on in Levanon and in the

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Speaker 12: Middle East of the moment.

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Speaker 2: What's happening with these intelligence briefings for Donald Trump about

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Speaker 2: assassination attempts?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, so, US intelligence officials have spoken to Donald Trump

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Speaker 12: and his team about suspected Iranian plots to kill him now.

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Speaker 12: The briefing was from the Office of the Director of

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Speaker 12: National Intelligence. Donald Trump's campaign says they are real and

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Speaker 12: specific threats. They are different from the attempts on his

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Speaker 12: life earlier this year. In recent weeks in Pennsylvania and

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Speaker 12: in Florida, Donald Trump posted about this, as he always

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Speaker 12: does Ryan on social media. He said, big threats on

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Speaker 12: my life by Iran. Moves were already made by Iran

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Speaker 12: that didn't work out, but they will try again. Not

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Speaker 12: a good situation for anyone, and he finished by saying,

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Speaker 12: an attack on a former president is a death wish

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Speaker 12: for the attacker.

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Speaker 2: Interesting that, Thank you very much. Mitch McCann, our US

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Speaker 2: correspondent from the UN in New York this morning, just

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Speaker 2: gone quarter.

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Speaker 3: To six, Bryan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: Chris Tippins is in Liverpool for the UK Labor Party conference.

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Speaker 2: It comes as the party back in New Zealand looks

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Speaker 2: at a wealth tax or a capital gains tax, or

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Speaker 2: potentially both, this while their British count's parts are being

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Speaker 2: absolutely hammered in the polls at the moment over a

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Speaker 2: series of what you could call gaffs and also spending scandals.

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Speaker 2: Chris is with us this morning, Chris, what have you

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Speaker 2: learned over there? His starma is down in the polls,

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Speaker 2: he's cutting into energy payments. Things aren't looking good for them.

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Speaker 10: Oh, and there's interesting challenges here that are similar to

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Speaker 10: New Zealand, and there's challenges that are different. I guess so,

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Speaker 10: I mean the similarities. Cost of living crisis is clearly

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Speaker 10: still a big issue here, as it is still a

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Speaker 10: big issue in New Zealand. Issues around tackling climate change

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Speaker 10: and sustainability, and the kind of the bigger question of

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Speaker 10: how do you grow an economy that on a per

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Speaker 10: capita basis has been stagnant? You know, these are similar

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Speaker 10: issues and similar challenges that we face in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Did you bond over your mutual drop in the polls?

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Speaker 10: Look at early days with them. Yet they have the

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Speaker 10: luxury of a five year term, so he doesn't have

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Speaker 10: to go back to the polls for another five years.

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Speaker 10: So I think at this point, you know, they're just

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Speaker 10: focused on doing the early things they need to do

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Speaker 10: in government.

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Speaker 2: You have to go back to the poles in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six. Will you be the leader?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: You want to be. You want the job absolutely.

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Speaker 10: And coming away here and looking at you know, the

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Speaker 10: some talking to people about ideas about how we can

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Speaker 10: actually move New Zealand forward, it's actually left me even

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Speaker 10: more energized. I think there are some big challenges in

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Speaker 10: New Zealand. They're going to require some fresh thinking and

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Speaker 10: some new ideas. I'm taking the time to make sure

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Speaker 10: we generate those new ideas that are twenty twenty six

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Speaker 10: election is not going to be a rerun of the

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Speaker 10: twenty twenty three election, and you know, we've got to

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Speaker 10: be focused on the future.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about a couple of his ideas and see

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Speaker 2: whether you're into them or not. We can quick fire these.

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Speaker 2: He wants long term sickness beneficiaries to start looking for work.

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Speaker 2: Good idea, bad idea.

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Speaker 10: Oh look, I don't want to get into discussing UK politics.

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Speaker 10: So if you want to ask me about things in

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Speaker 10: the New Zealand context, in New Zealand policy, all.

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Speaker 2: Right about that in New Zealand.

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Speaker 5: In New Zealand, I don't want to provide a commentary.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to provide no fair enough in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: In New Zealand, would you be on board with long

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Speaker 2: term sickness beneficiaries having to look for work?

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Speaker 10: No. I think we've got a system in place at

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Speaker 10: the moment that sets out clear expectations around long term

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Speaker 10: sickness beneficiaries, and then I'm quite comfortable with that.

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Speaker 2: They have a limit there. And again this is a

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Speaker 2: New Zealand question. Would we limit a child benefit allowance

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Speaker 2: to two kids max?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 10: Ill and support that.

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Speaker 2: Would you reduce the winter energy payment to help pay

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Speaker 2: the bills, the government's bills?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 10: I mean there's a different issue over here, in the

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Speaker 10: sense that it was a universal entitlement over here, whereas

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Speaker 10: it's not a New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the elephant in the room, the capital

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Speaker 2: gains tax, the wealth tax. A lot of news in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. About that, Antonia, the head of the a

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Speaker 2: Z Bank, has said that she thinks we need some

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Speaker 2: sort of capital gains tax. Can you just clarify for people?

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Speaker 2: Would that cover the family home? If you're a family

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Speaker 2: who's saved up your mortgage free, you've got a rental property,

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Speaker 2: would you ever be hit by either of these?

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Speaker 10: Well, I wouldn't be happy with taxing a family home

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Speaker 10: and gains on a family home, And the other questions

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Speaker 10: really are hypothetical because you know, we haven't committed to

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Speaker 10: a particular form of capital gains taxation. But I think

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Speaker 10: what we've got to acknowledge is at the moment, the

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Speaker 10: New Zealand tax system is loaded against working people. Working

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Speaker 10: people end up paying more tax because we're not kept

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Speaker 10: taxing other forms of income. And as our other comparable

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Speaker 10: countries do. There's capital gain sex here and the UK

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Speaker 10: is capital gain stacks in Australia and so many other

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Speaker 10: countries that there isn't in New Zealand. And what does

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Speaker 10: that mean? It means that salary and wagering is the

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Speaker 10: people who work hard every day for a living end

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Speaker 10: up paying a disproportionate share of the tax because we're

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Speaker 10: not taxing other forms of income.

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Speaker 2: So this is not about solving the housing crisis. For you,

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Speaker 2: a capital gains tax, it's about fairness.

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Speaker 5: It's both of it.

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Speaker 10: It's about both things. I mean, I think we do have.

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Speaker 2: The Tax Working Group. The Tax Working Group has said

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Speaker 2: that it wouldn't solve the housing housing crisis, it wouldn't

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Speaker 2: help to bring prices down.

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Speaker 10: Well, I think you've got to look at that. There's

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Speaker 10: a range of things that have led to people into

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Speaker 10: New Zealanders putting money into the property market instead of

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Speaker 10: other forms of productive investment. Taxation is only one of

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Speaker 10: the things that you've got to look at there. You've

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Speaker 10: got to look at a range of other things as well.

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Speaker 10: I certainly don't think, you know, taxing income from capital,

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Speaker 10: you know, capital gains on property, for example, would hurt

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Speaker 10: the housing crisis. I think it's likely to be helpful,

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Speaker 10: but it's not going to be a solution. There's no

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Speaker 10: one thing that's going to solve the housing crisis in

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Speaker 10: New Zealand. That's going to require a range of different things.

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Speaker 2: In the UK, they've got a capital gains tax, they've

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Speaker 2: got an inheritance tax. Look at the state of their NHS.

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Speaker 2: Isn't your bigger problem convincing keywis that if you do

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Speaker 2: do a tax, we will actually get some benefit from it.

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Speaker 2: Oh we yep.

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Speaker 10: But we've got to make sure that New Zealanders see

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Speaker 10: the benefit of any changes that we would make to

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Speaker 10: the tech system. They've got to see what's in it

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Speaker 10: for them.

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Speaker 2: Stats n Z put out their General Social Survey yesterday.

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Speaker 2: This is the twenty twenty three So this is when

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Speaker 2: you guys were in office twenty twenty one to twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three. Trust and the health system down, education down,

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Speaker 2: Parliament down, police down, courts down, people's sense of belonging down.

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Speaker 2: Do you take some responsibility for those numbers?

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Speaker 10: Of course, but we've got to recognize that those numbers

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Speaker 10: were on were record high. It's just three years ago,

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Speaker 10: during the COVID nineteen pandemic, we saw record levels of

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Speaker 10: trust and conf it's in government, and now they're coming

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Speaker 10: back down to more like the levels that they were

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Speaker 10: before the pandemic.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying that this is actually a good thing

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Speaker 2: or a normal thing.

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Speaker 10: No, not at all. I'd love to see those numbers

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Speaker 10: stay higher. I think we've actually got to work really

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Speaker 10: hard to make sure that our democratic institutions are ones

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Speaker 10: that inspire confidence and trust from the New Zealand public.

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Speaker 10: I think they are taking a bit of a knock

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Speaker 10: in recent years. I think we do need to take that,

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Speaker 10: you know seriously as politicians, we need to make sure

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Speaker 10: that we're making the changes to the way our democratic

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Speaker 10: system operates so that we're increasing public trust and confidence.

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Speaker 2: Is anyone doing the numbers against you and the Labor

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Speaker 2: Party Tivy?

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Speaker 10: Absolutely not, absolutely not that I'm absolutely confident that I

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Speaker 10: have the full support of the Labor team.

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Speaker 2: Hey, the nuclear free moment, obviously it's been well for

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Speaker 2: five six years now since just Cindra Durn's proclamation. We've

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Speaker 2: now had in the last twenty four hours Todd Energy

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Speaker 2: come out and join the likes of method X and

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Speaker 2: OG and Windstone and they are making cuts at Toddy Energy,

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Speaker 2: which is hugely concerning. Do you concede that what you

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Speaker 2: did with the offshore oil and gas band has had

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Speaker 2: an impact on investment here and it is costing jobs,

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Speaker 2: good regional union jobs.

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Speaker 10: No, absolutely not to totally reject that rhyme and the

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Speaker 10: facts actually say otherwise. I mean that's spin from the

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Speaker 10: oil and gas industry. For the reality here is we

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Speaker 10: haven't had a significant oil and gas bye in New Zealands.

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Speaker 10: It's two thousand and one. The Oil and Guess Band's

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Speaker 10: only been in place for the last five years. So

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Speaker 10: if there was a ready supply of oil and gas there,

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Speaker 10: they would have found it by now.

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Speaker 2: Well, we don't know that, do we. I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you don't know what you don't know. And the fact

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Speaker 2: is if you ban it, you'll never know.

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Speaker 10: Well, there's still a lot of offshore oil and guess

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Speaker 10: exploration permits that are active now. They could be out

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Speaker 10: there exploring now, even because we didn't cancel any of

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Speaker 10: the permits that were in place when the band was

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Speaker 10: put in place. They chose not to do that.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying that when method X, when these companies

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Speaker 2: put out press releases and they've sent me statements partly

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Speaker 2: blaming your ban on oil offshore oil and gas exploration

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Speaker 2: for a dampening and investment, they're making it up.

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Speaker 10: It's always easier to blame that. It's always easier to

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Speaker 10: blame the government when companies have to make some difficult decisions.

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Speaker 10: But the reality is New Zealand's future should be focused

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Speaker 10: on renewable energy, it's cheaper. It's going to be better

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Speaker 10: for New Zealand business because of New Zealand businesses paying

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Speaker 10: lower power prices, they're going to be more competitive. Fossil

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Speaker 10: fuels are more expensive than renewable fields. The thing that

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Speaker 10: causes our electricity prices to go up is not the

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Speaker 10: cost of renewable energy, it's the cost of fossil fuels.

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Speaker 2: Just finally, you might have seen I mean, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: you've been keeping abreast of politics here, but Chris Luxeen

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Speaker 2: has had a Oh he's had a few I don't

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Speaker 2: want to say tanties, but he's had a few run

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Speaker 2: ins with the media. What do you make of his

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Speaker 2: performance this week?

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Speaker 10: Oh you know. I mean, I think Christoph Luxem said

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Speaker 10: that he's setting all these targets so that the public

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Speaker 10: can hold him accountable for the governments before Womans, and

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Speaker 10: now that the targets are actually showing that the government's

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Speaker 10: performance is getting worse, his say, we'll forget about the targets,

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Speaker 10: stop questioning me on them. I mean he's contradicting himself.

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Speaker 10: I mean, if he wants to set targets and say

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Speaker 10: hold me accountable for the targets. He's got to be

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Speaker 10: prepared to be questioned on them.

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Speaker 2: How long did you get in a meeting with Starma?

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Speaker 10: It was a relatively brief meeting we were meeting for

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Speaker 10: you know, it was a meeting between meetings.

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Speaker 5: For both of us.

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Speaker 10: So we've got to about ten minutes. I suppose had

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Speaker 10: a good sit down with Angel rain As the Deputy

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Speaker 10: Prime Minister over here for about half an hour, and

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Speaker 10: have meeting with plenty of other Labor MP's as well.

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Speaker 2: Bryan Bridge, that was Chris Hopkins, the Labor leader over

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Speaker 2: in Liverpool for the UK Party conference. There long way

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Speaker 2: to go for ten minutes back in a second News.

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Speaker 3: And Views you trust to start your day is early

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Speaker 3: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture

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Speaker 3: beds and a flying store. News Talk said be four.

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Speaker 2: Minutes away from Sex News Talks. There'd be mikes with

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Speaker 2: you next Mike. What have you got coming up? Education minister?

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Speaker 2: Big announcement coming day from the government, and we.

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Speaker 8: Will also look at this free trade deal which is

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Speaker 8: going to be signed this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant fast to sever there we go. Let's set for today.

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Speaker 2: I'll see you all tomorrow. Friday. Take care.

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