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Speaker 1: for the full picture, Heather Duplicy, Drive with One New

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Speaker 1: Zealand let's get connected news talks. That'd be.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, welcome to the show coming up today.

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Speaker 2: Hardly anyone is getting the government's big daycare money that

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Speaker 2: they promised in that budget promise, remember the finance and

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Speaker 2: to still talk us through that act on the fact

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Speaker 2: that the nats are still carrying on with race based

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Speaker 2: special treatment and doctors are apparently worried that cannabis clinics

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Speaker 2: are only offering their patients cannabis and nothing else. What

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Speaker 2: a surprise, Heather Duplicylan, Listen, I want to give a

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Speaker 2: shout out to the banks for these new rules that

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Speaker 2: they've set themselves on paying compo for scams, I mean

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Speaker 2: for scams. We give the banks a hard time in

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Speaker 2: than not in the media. Frankly, we give the banks

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Speaker 2: when they actually do the right thing, and in this

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Speaker 2: done is they've set up a bunch of obstacles for

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Speaker 2: themselves as well, which is that if a scammer does

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Speaker 2: get your money and it turns out that the bank

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Speaker 2: hasn't done all of these things, then the bank has

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Speaker 2: got a cough up and pay the combo to you.

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Speaker 2: Now you've probably already noticed one of the things that

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Speaker 2: they've done, right, it's the confirmation of pay. Ye. So

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Speaker 2: what happens is that when you go to pay somebody

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Speaker 2: pay them out of your account, you have to put

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Speaker 2: there is a match between the two, if the person

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Speaker 2: person you're sending the money to. Now, set aside completely

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Speaker 2: the scam busting aspect of that. That's just great on

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Speaker 2: but it's given me a whole bunch of confidence every

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Speaker 2: it's obviously just a good thing for the banks to do,

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Speaker 2: but also is obviously going to help in stopping the scams.

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Speaker 2: And the thing about this is that it's going to

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Speaker 2: make it a lot more cut and dry as to

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Speaker 2: the money, right, because we have spent too long now

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Speaker 2: debating whether it's the fault of the old biddy and

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Speaker 2: old old lady where the market We can end that debate. Now,

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Speaker 2: if you still get scammed despite all of these things

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Speaker 2: on you. Now. Obviously banks should have done this ages ago.

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Speaker 2: It shouldn't have taken a whole bunch of public pressure

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Speaker 2: it should help, And for that I think that the

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Speaker 2: banks deserve a bit of praise. Ever do for cellen

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Speaker 2: nWo is the text number and standard techs fees apply

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Speaker 2: now from one set of good news to a whole

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Speaker 2: bunch of more good news. The Mill Road upgrade in

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Speaker 2: Minister of Transport. Bush. Hello, Hello, So you guys going

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Speaker 2: to toll this?

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Speaker 3: Are you? We will told it.

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Speaker 5: Look, all of the new roads of national significance we

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Speaker 2: I mean I can see that that makes complete sense

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Speaker 2: building a new road here, right, You're just upgrading an

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Speaker 5: Mill Road will be a largely four lane offline new

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Speaker 5: Menecau to Drury and the existing Mill Road will become

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been talking about this now for a fair bit.

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Speaker 2: When are you guys actually going to start?

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Speaker 5: Hoping to start construction mid to late twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 5: We're getting on with the detailed consenting and design work

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Speaker 2: Now listen, have you caught up on this High court

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Speaker 5: What the judicial review of the speed limit changes?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so these guys are the ones who tried to

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Speaker 2: They took it to the High Court and they've just

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so they took an interim well they applied for

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, oh okay, well, what does this initial

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Speaker 5: It means that the speed limit changes are going here

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Speaker 2: Sorry, So there is the substantive hearing later in the year,

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Speaker 2: but in the meantime they were trying to stop you,

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Speaker 2: just going to go full speed ahead. Well you just

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Speaker 2: got to get a whole bunch done before the next hearing.

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Speaker 5: Right Well, yeah, I mean they sought what's called on

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Speaker 5: there's a substantive hearing later in the year, and you

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Speaker 5: but you know, obviously they lost in the interim hearing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you must be feeling pretty stoked that they lost,

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Speaker 2: right this, This this obviously sets the scene for you

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Speaker 5: I would have thought, well, look, our position is that

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Speaker 5: we you know, it was actually some men brown who

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Speaker 5: Entitia in terms of state highways and also councilors as

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Speaker 5: it's going down really well around the country. You know,

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Speaker 5: you just think about that section of State Highway too

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Speaker 6: Brilliant.

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Speaker 2: Hey listen, Bitsh, thanks very much for talking to us. I appreciated.

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Speaker 2: There's Chris Bishop, the Minister of Transport. I am thrilled about.

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Speaker 2: I am obsessed with mel road, obsessed with it. I

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Speaker 2: What's new, hey, China our love? This is giving Trump

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Speaker 2: Actually now I'm not going to, and it didn't look

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Speaker 2: Chinese social media is the phrase Trump chickened out? How

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Speaker 2: good is that? Quarter past?

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Speaker 6: How are you good? God?

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Speaker 2: Now, why why are you coming in so hot? Because

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Speaker 2: you're excited about this weekend? Aren't you like you were

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Speaker 2: about last wee year?

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I work Saturday, so it's not really a

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Speaker 4: long weekend, but I have a long weekend by default anyway,

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Speaker 4: Come back at midday on Tuesday, so this is a Friday.

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Speaker 4: Is an addition, whether we kind of pause to do

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Speaker 2: Yes, isn't it lovely?

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Speaker 4: Just on last weekend?

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Speaker 7: I'll take it.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of this cricket idea?

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Speaker 4: They have to more than anything, They have to. I

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Speaker 4: think if you stand still and you watch the cricketing

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Speaker 4: a hurri The big money of TEA twenty franchise cricket

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Speaker 4: is swamping everything and change is a foot. It's a

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Speaker 4: foot for bilateral series, for its national T twenties, for

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Speaker 4: Test series. Everything is changing.

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Speaker 2: How does this US based T twenty comp work? Are

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Speaker 4: No, No, to be a part share in a franchise team.

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Speaker 4: It's is set up by a crew who set up

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Speaker 4: New Zealand Cricket are helping establish this team. They are

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Speaker 2: That'd be either if something is trending on social media

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Speaker 2: ten past five very quickly. Oh no, this is it

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Speaker 6: That'd be well.

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Speaker 2: It says that I'm not the only person who's upset

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Speaker 8: Ukraine does not legally recognize the occupation of Crimea.

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Speaker 7: There's nothing to talk about.

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Speaker 9: And what's in our country's best interest for families and

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Speaker 10: There is a real opportunity for us to make more

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Speaker 2: And finally, a half marathon in Beijing has allowed robots

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Speaker 2: not much chance of any robots winning any Olympic medals just.

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Speaker 1: Years international correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance peace of

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Speaker 2: But for the average human it was still six minutes

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Speaker 6: Good mate, how are you going?

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Speaker 2: Right, Now, you don't waste no just jacking. Don't waste

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Speaker 6: Nine thousand dollars fine and almost forty hours of community work,

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Speaker 6: He was sentenced for supplying cocaine to two young fellows.

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Speaker 2: Now with the sentencing ls, what's happened here in Ellis

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Speaker 2: Springs with the shopkeeper.

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Speaker 6: It's up and Darwin. Actually and the young fellow was

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Speaker 6: actually he came from Alice Springs. I put aunt crook there.

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Speaker 6: I gave him the wrong steer. This happened in Darwin

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Speaker 6: yesterday afternoon. A seventy one year old grosser, very well

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Speaker 6: known figure, married for over fifty years, the same woman,

443
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Speaker 6: big family man. He stabbed to death. This young man

444
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Speaker 6: was in the shop. He's gone. The shopkeeper's gone up

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Speaker 6: to and said, listen, put that stuff back on the shelves.

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Speaker 6: I've seen you stuffing the things into your jacket and

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Speaker 6: your bag. The young guys pulled out a knife and

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Speaker 6: stabbed him to death. Now it's emerged the team was

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Speaker 6: out on bail on very serious sex assault charges. He

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Speaker 6: should not have been anywhere near Alice Springs either. He'd

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Speaker 6: been ordered to stay in a remote community. But he's

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Speaker 6: made the way his way to Darwin, out on bail,

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Speaker 6: and he stabbed this fellow to death. That's the allegation anyway,

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Speaker 6: and he'll be in court. I think he's in court today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's rough and so I see that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: right now Sky is holding a press conference, is broadcasting

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Speaker 2: a press conference with the Northern Territory Parliament apparently looking

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Speaker 2: like they're going to strengthen the bail laws as a result.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you go.

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Speaker 6: Well, look, it's a heck of a problem. The solution

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Speaker 6: it's not an easy one. And when where the heck

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Speaker 6: do you go? It really is a massive problem with

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Speaker 6: young teenage and the main teenage crime. I mean either

464
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Speaker 6: that are very young adults. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: It's just a big, big problem, easy answer.

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Speaker 2: What happened also with his white supremacist and the punching

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Speaker 2: here he.

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Speaker 6: Got his come up and from a woman. I haven't

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Speaker 6: got an age on it, but she looks to be

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Speaker 6: at least in the seventies and possibly in a eighty.

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Speaker 6: She looks about fifty kilograms in weight and about four

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Speaker 6: foot nothing. And this buffhead has gone into it's a

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Speaker 6: political meeting. It was organized by would you believe, the

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Speaker 6: Friends of the ABC and Monique Ryan, the t MP,

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Speaker 6: the member, the federal member for Couyong. She was there

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Speaker 6: as well. In this suburban library with this audience, as

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Speaker 6: I say of ABC friends, they're having a political discussion

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Speaker 6: about the upcoming election. And this buffhead, this well known

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Speaker 6: right extreme right winger in Melbourne, he's walked into the

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Speaker 6: library with a cameraman and tow yelling about immigration and crime. Right,

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Speaker 6: he's walked in and disrupted the meeting. He did not

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Speaker 6: count on this older woman jumping up and going over

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Speaker 6: and trying to smack him in the face. I mean,

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Speaker 6: she didn't come up to his shoulders, and she's taken

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Speaker 6: the swing and he's obviously back the way. He's backed

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Speaker 6: out of the library, still yelling about so called liberal

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Speaker 6: democracy and how bad it is police recall. But the

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Speaker 6: troublemakers had buggered off at the time the arrived. And

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Speaker 6: this I think the I think Manick Ryan looked more

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Speaker 6: upset than the older lady who had taken the swing.

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Speaker 6: I think she looks very very well capable of looking

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Speaker 6: after herself somehow.

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Speaker 2: Marz, thank you, really appreciate you talking to you. We'll

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Speaker 2: chat to you again next week. That's Murray Old's are

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Speaker 2: Australia correspondent. Hither didn't we loarn yesterday? That the numbers

496
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Speaker 2: don't matter, or does that only apply to baby vaccinations.

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Speaker 2: I mean maybe Plunket did the numbers for the National Party.

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Speaker 2: That would make sense. Now, look, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: overload you with Justinda news because this will be the

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Speaker 2: second Justinda update that I am giving you in a week,

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Speaker 2: and it is a short week. It's only a week

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Speaker 2: of three days, and that's two updates and three days

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Speaker 2: and that's a lot. But someone's got to tell you. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Jaina's getting an honorary degree from Oxford. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see that. Somebody just texts this through to me.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Michael for letting me know. And then I

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Speaker 2: went to have a look in use Oxford set on

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Speaker 2: their website that it's popped up. It's just popped up,

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Speaker 2: so put it in your diary. Twenty five June degrees

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Speaker 2: will be awarded to blah blah blah blah blah blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah, nine people, Sir farrerh Lord Melvin Bragg, Dager

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Speaker 2: thunder Arjen doesn't say what for. I mean, there's obviously

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Speaker 2: a hagiography, like a very short hagiography, being like she

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Speaker 2: was awesome, she was born and then since then she's

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Speaker 2: been awesome, just consistently, And that's basically what it says

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Speaker 2: is but doesn't say why she's going to get this

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Speaker 2: honorary degree. So we can only hazard a guess that

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Speaker 2: it's for displaying exceptional skills at profligate spending, being amazing

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Speaker 2: at putting a country into recession. Something along those lines,

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Speaker 2: one would have to guess. Sixteen away from five.

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Speaker 1: The politics with centrics credit check your customers and get

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Speaker 1: payments certainty.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen away from five Thomas Coglan, the Herald's political editors

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Speaker 2: with US Thomas Hallo Afternoon, Heather, how do they get

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Speaker 2: their numbers so wrong?

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Speaker 9: So basically this is a childcare rebate. You spend money

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Speaker 9: at ECE and you send in your receipts and you

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Speaker 9: get twenty five percent of that money that you spend back.

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Speaker 9: The screw up appears to have been that IID doesn't

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Speaker 9: actually know they know how much money you earn. They

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Speaker 9: know a lot of stuff about you, the IID, but

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Speaker 9: they don't actually know how much people spend on childcare

533
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Speaker 9: because obviously IID isn't looking through your bank account, thankfully,

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Speaker 9: and so essentially that's where the stuff up seems to

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Speaker 9: have been. Last year, they estimated the amount of money

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Speaker 9: that people were spending on childcare, and it turns out

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Speaker 9: that we're actually spending a bit less on childcare than

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Speaker 9: they thought. And that's why their costings for this policy,

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Speaker 9: this childcare rebate, were way way off, because that the

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Speaker 9: costing that they delivered to Nicola Willis last year was

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Speaker 9: based on about twenty one thousand people spending three hundred

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Speaker 9: dollars more on childcare, and the number we don't know

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Speaker 9: the number of people are spending three hundred dollars more,

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Speaker 9: but it's clearly much lower than twenty one thousand.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But then on top of that, the CTU also

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Speaker 2: then estimates that it's something like fewer than fifty families

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Speaker 2: who get the full tax package, the whole lot. So

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Speaker 2: the whole, the whole thing seems to have have been

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Speaker 2: vastly overestimated.

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Speaker 9: Yes, yes, Now, now the detail of this is sort

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Speaker 9: of complicated. So to get that two fifty a fortnight,

552
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Speaker 9: you'd need to get the full family boost, so that's

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Speaker 9: seventy five dollars a week from your childcare, and then

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Speaker 9: you'd need to get the income tax cut, and then

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Speaker 9: another tax credit that National was offering at the election,

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Speaker 9: and if you're a couple, you have to be a

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Speaker 9: couple to get that two fifty, So both both partners

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Speaker 9: and the couple would need to be getting everything, okay,

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Speaker 9: And so the CTU has basically said, if two hundred

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Speaker 9: and fifty people are getting the full seventy five dollars

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Speaker 9: a week from the family tax credit, then of those

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Speaker 9: two fifty, a tiny number of people will also be

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Speaker 9: getting all the other tax cuts in order to have

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Speaker 9: that two hundred and fifty dollars a fortnight. But probably

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Speaker 9: they are probably right. It's probably a very very small

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Speaker 9: number of people who are getting the two fifty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So what happens with the extra money that

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Speaker 2: we're not spending on this?

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Speaker 9: Then, well that is a very good question. It's a

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Speaker 9: question we've actually put to Nicola with us. So the

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Speaker 9: money's the money's left in the piggy bank at the moment,

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Speaker 9: and she's got a very difficult political decision to make,

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Speaker 9: which is do you do you change the settings at

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Speaker 9: the budget to make sure that people get something a

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Speaker 9: bit closer to what they have promised, or do you

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Speaker 9: bank it to reduce the enormous debt that we've got.

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Speaker 9: You know, both of them are. Both of them are

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Speaker 9: good options and bad options equally. Really, I don't know,

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Speaker 9: I don't know which one I'd be going with.

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Speaker 2: Fair point, so entirely predictably, Daddy is not going to

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Speaker 2: tell Winnie off as e yes, yes it is.

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Speaker 9: It is entirely predictable. Look the line from them, the

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Speaker 9: line from Christopher Luxen on Winston Peter's little scrap with

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Speaker 9: rn Z yesterday is is that Winston. I'll quote it here.

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Speaker 9: It's not words I would words that I wouldn't use,

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Speaker 9: But frankly, I think Winston Peter's, after forty years in

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Speaker 9: public service, has a mode of communication that is well understood.

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Speaker 9: And you know, look, there's a lot of truth of that,

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Speaker 9: but certainly he does. Winston Peters does seem to have

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Speaker 9: flown in the face of some of that rn Z editorial,

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Speaker 9: editorial statutory protection. And it is very interesting that the

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Speaker 9: Prime Minister doesn't back himself to at least tell him

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Speaker 9: off a little bit, at least sort of pull him

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Speaker 9: into line. Obviously, this isn't a second offense. This isn't

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Speaker 9: you know, this is in a very incredibly seri.

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Speaker 2: Why would he tell him off, Like what what why

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Speaker 2: would he tell him off? First of all, if he

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Speaker 2: tells him off, he's just gonna he's just going to

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Speaker 2: get the backup of his coalition partner. And you don't

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Speaker 2: need to give Winston any reason to misbaht. It was

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Speaker 2: just just Cinda's recently found out. There's nothing in that.

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Speaker 2: Plus there's a whole but no, no, no, I can't imagine

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Speaker 2: there's a huge number of national voters. We're gonna be like, yeah, cool,

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Speaker 2: we really wanted you to defend our MZ.

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Speaker 9: No, You're quite right, there is no there is no

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Speaker 9: political or any or any merit. And and pulling Winston

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Speaker 9: Peters into line. The government's got eighteen months pull the

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Speaker 9: next election roughly, and and Winston Peter's already already has

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Speaker 9: plenty of incentive to act up, and you don't want

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Speaker 9: to give him any further incentive.

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Speaker 2: Hey, do we care about China being upset about the

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Speaker 2: visit to Taiwan?

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Speaker 9: Not particularly China always get that these trips happen all

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Speaker 9: the time. China gets their back their backup about them regularly.

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Speaker 9: This is yeah, it's it's standard practice. I think as

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Speaker 9: Stuart Smith, who was on the trip. I think he

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Speaker 9: said that they sort of expected it.

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Speaker 12: Oh.

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Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, on that aaron Z thing, did

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Speaker 2: you notice that that the Luxeon did not dissuade us

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Speaker 2: of the idea that iron Z may have its funding cut.

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Speaker 9: Yes, I did notice that. I would say that I

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Speaker 9: put money on that happening in the budget. Could be wrong,

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Speaker 9: but I've heard some whispers around the bee Hive that

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Speaker 9: suggest that they might be looking to take some of

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Speaker 9: the funding away from Oriata to the budget anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds increasingly like that's the case. Hey, Thomas,

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Speaker 2: Thanks has always appreciated Thomas Coglan, the Herald's political editor.

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Speaker 2: Eight away from five, putting.

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Speaker 1: The tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking Breakfast.

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Speaker 13: Has the Trumps to blink? His last approach to China

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Speaker 13: and tariff appears to be he's going to back down.

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Speaker 13: The Hall Seeken is the former advisor to Sendator John

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Speaker 13: mccainey's with the American Action Forum these days. What's your

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Speaker 13: sense of this whole terror thing.

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Speaker 14: I think it's been a real problem for the US

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Speaker 14: and the global of comly in general.

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Speaker 13: Would you say Trump has blinked in the last twenty

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Speaker 13: four hours is what the comments about China's really about.

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Speaker 14: It's absolutely true that the president ever he made a mistake,

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Speaker 14: but he does respond to pressure, and we've seen him

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Speaker 14: respond to that pressure in the past week.

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Speaker 3: So what happens now?

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Speaker 14: I think the reciprocal terrorffs go away under the guys

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Speaker 14: of negotiations with these country or something like that.

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Speaker 13: Back Monday from six am, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 13: Mayley's Real Estate News Talk zb.

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Speaker 2: Okay five away from five hither What on earth are

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Speaker 2: they talking about? I spend get a load of this

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Speaker 2: because this will rip your nickers. Six hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: dollars a week on childcare pretty standard, but I earned

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Speaker 2: too much, eighty thousand dollars. I'm left with about three

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars each week for everything else. It's

654
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Speaker 2: hardly worth working, So that that'll be part of the problem, right,

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Speaker 2: It will be that there are people who actually do

656
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Speaker 2: spend three hundred dollars plus on childcare every week, but

657
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Speaker 2: the problem is they earn too much to qualify for this.

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Speaker 2: So perhaps perhaps the thing is not estimating incorrectly how

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Speaker 2: much people are spending, just estimating and correctly how much

660
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Speaker 2: people are earning. People are earning more than that anyway, regardless, nevermind,

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk to Nichola Willis about what she's

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Speaker 2: going to do about this. Look, I may be going soft, okay,

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Speaker 2: but I'm not upset about the fact that we've bought

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Speaker 2: cars for former prime ministers. I don't know if you've

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Speaker 2: seen the spin in the news today. Taxpayers Union has

666
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Speaker 2: dug out the info and found out that, I think

667
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Speaker 2: it's since twenty seventeen, we've spent about three hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars buying the former prime minister's new cars, and then

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Speaker 2: about fourteen thousand dollars on things like fueler maintenance. Right,

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Speaker 2: So we've bought cars for Jacinda and Bill and Helen

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Speaker 2: and Jenny and Jimmy does Jimbolgia. Obviously nobody calls them

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Speaker 2: Jimmy anyway. So and in these cars, not John Key,

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Speaker 2: because the man's too classy. He's like, look, I'm loaded,

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Speaker 2: I've got a chopper. You don't need to buy my car.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, John, because I feel like there are some

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Speaker 2: other people in that list who don't need to have

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Speaker 2: the cars bought for them. But anyway, regardless, the cars

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Speaker 2: cost about forty eight thousand to about sixty three thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars a pop. It seems like Ja Cinda went and

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Speaker 2: got herself the Hyundai Kona Beev BEV, which I think

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Speaker 2: i've seen her driving around the beach. Bill's got that too.

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Speaker 2: It's ugly, you know. I'm sorry. If that it's the

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Speaker 2: car that you pick, then, you know whatever, Like fine.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't buy it for myself either, I'd get somebody

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Speaker 2: else to buy it from his idios. Anyway, Helen's got

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Speaker 2: the best taste of everyone. She's got herself an MG

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Speaker 2: classy Helen MG PEV and Jim and Jenny have got

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Speaker 2: themselves the Mitzi Outland of Pev, which also, to be honest,

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Speaker 2: is a little bit ugly, but less ugly than the

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Speaker 2: high un Day Anyway, we've paid for that. We've also

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Speaker 2: paid for the road user charges and their petrol and

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Speaker 2: their vehicle services. Bill got himself a couple of new tires,

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Speaker 2: set of new tires. It was one thousand dollars. Genny's

694
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Speaker 2: the only one who pays to get her car cleaned.

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Speaker 2: She got four car washes and a groom for one

696
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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty dollars. I respect the fact that she

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Speaker 2: claimed for the four car washes. That's pedantic. I would anyway.

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Speaker 2: I'm neither here. I just don't. I'm not fussed about it.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, if these are the rules, right, if these

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Speaker 2: are the rules, we're going to buy them the cars

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Speaker 2: and stuff in them. Whatever. It's not a huge extent,

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Speaker 2: but we could change the rules, I suppose anyway, We'll

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Speaker 2: talk to the huddle about it later. Also going to

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Speaker 2: talk to the people who want us to pay as

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Speaker 2: tax payers, you know, for master Chef and stuff to

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Speaker 2: be in New Zealand. I mean, honestly stand by Nikola Willis's.

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Speaker 1: Next digging through the spin spins to find the real story.

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Speaker 3: Oring it's Heather dups on drive with one.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 6: That'd be.

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Speaker 2: Afternoon. It turns out that way fewer families have been

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Speaker 2: receiving National's main election sweetener than they estimated. So they

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Speaker 2: said it would be twenty one thousand families who would

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Speaker 2: qualify for the seventy five dollars a week reback for

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Speaker 2: early childhood education, but actually it's just two hundred and

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Speaker 2: forty nine families who get it consistently. The Finance Minister

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Speaker 2: Nichola Willis's with us.

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Speaker 12: Nikola, Hello, I'm going to have to correct you here

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Speaker 12: this please. Actually, fifty six thousand families have benefitted from

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Speaker 12: the scheme so far, and more than seventy thousand have

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Speaker 12: registered for the scheme, so maybe about to make claims.

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Speaker 12: And what iid estimated and what we based our communications

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Speaker 12: on was that around one hundred thousand families would be

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Speaker 12: eligible for the scheme over the full year. We haven't

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Speaker 12: completed a year yet, so we do expect more families

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Speaker 12: will claim over the next few weeks and months, and

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Speaker 12: families do have up to four years to make claims

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Speaker 12: for the scheme, so some who are eligible for it

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Speaker 12: may not have made claims yet. So we're hopeful that

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Speaker 12: there will still be many more thousands of families that

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Speaker 12: will benefit from the scheme.

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Speaker 2: Is it wrong the reporterage that I'm reading that says

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Speaker 2: two hundred and forty nine families have consistently claimed the

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Speaker 2: full amounts since the scheme began last July, So what.

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Speaker 12: Is correct is that fewer families than ird estimated have

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Speaker 12: got the full amount of the claim, which is for

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Speaker 12: nine hundred and seventy five dollars every three months, and

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Speaker 12: that's because fewer families that IRD estimated are actually paying

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Speaker 12: more than three hundred dollars a week for early childhood

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Speaker 12: education costs. That's how much they have to pay to

741
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Speaker 12: be eligible for the full rebate, because the rebate is

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Speaker 12: based on how much you're paying an ECE fees and

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Speaker 12: what your household income is. And essentially IRD thought that

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Speaker 12: there were more people paying half fees than has turned

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Speaker 12: out to be the case. So we're now having a

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Speaker 12: look at the scheme. We always intended that these dollars

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Speaker 12: that we've put aside for family boost would end up

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Speaker 12: with families and their bank accounts helping them with the

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Speaker 12: cost of living. So I've asked IID for advice on

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Speaker 12: what are the tweaks we could make to make sure

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Speaker 12: that more people are benefiting more from this scheme.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you'll prepare to tweak it so actually more

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Speaker 2: people get it rather than bank the savings and use

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Speaker 2: it for something else.

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Speaker 12: Yes, because the government's intention was really clear. We think

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Speaker 12: that that time in life when you've got young children,

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Speaker 12: you've got high costs, is really tough, and that's when

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Speaker 12: the cost of loving bite's hard. And if you're working

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Speaker 12: and you're paying tax, we think giving you a little

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Speaker 12: bit of a boost to help with your early childhood

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Speaker 12: education costs is the right thing to do. We put

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Speaker 12: aside hundreds of millions of dollars for this policy. Because

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Speaker 12: the uptake has been lower than id estimated, we're not

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Speaker 12: on track to actually get all that money out the door.

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Speaker 12: I want it in the back pockets of mums and

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Speaker 12: dads who need it, so that will require some tweaks

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Speaker 12: to the scheme, and I'm taking advice on what those

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Speaker 12: should be.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any idea how much money you've saved

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Speaker 2: across this.

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Speaker 12: It's difficult to estimate because, as I say, it hasn't

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Speaker 12: even been running for a year yet, and the budget

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Speaker 12: is forecast over the next four years. But at this

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Speaker 12: point we are not on track to have spent the

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Speaker 12: full one hundred and seventy one million dollars that we

776
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Speaker 12: were meant to be spending this year. So I want

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Speaker 12: to make sure that we're making tweaks so that in

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Speaker 12: future years we are getting this out the door to

779
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Speaker 12: more people.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming the tweak's going to be in the budget yet.

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Speaker 12: Know what we've done for the budget has made sure

782
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Speaker 12: that all the funding we initially put to one side

783
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Speaker 12: for the scheme is ring fenced, still available for Family Boost.

784
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Speaker 12: And then as we're continuing to track this star that's

785
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Speaker 12: still coming in, continuing to get claims, I'm at the

786
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Speaker 12: same time taking advice on tweaks to the scheme and

787
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Speaker 12: I think that I will make some announcements on that

788
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Speaker 12: after the budget probably in June.

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Speaker 2: Okay, cool, Hey, thank you very much as always for

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Speaker 2: your time. That's Nikola Willis, the Finance Minister to.

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Speaker 3: Do for Celis.

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Speaker 2: There's some tension in the coalition over ongoing race based policies.

793
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Speaker 2: It turns out that ACC is still using ethnic targeting.

794
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Speaker 2: This is despite the government minister's telling the public servants

795
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Speaker 2: to stop it. ACC wants to reduce about five thy

796
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Speaker 2: five hundred injury claims in the manufacturing sector, but they're

797
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Speaker 2: specifying that eighteen percent of those must be from Maori

798
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Speaker 2: workers and eleven percent of those must be from PACIFICA workers.

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Speaker 2: Laura McClure is act's ACC spokesperson. Hey, Laura, are you there.

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Speaker 15: Laura, I am here.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Yes, I can thank you great. Why wasn't the stopped?

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Speaker 15: Look are we are not too sure, and in the

803
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Speaker 15: Minister's defense, there is a separation between obviously the ministry

804
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Speaker 15: and the minister, so it has come from acc itself. However,

805
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Speaker 15: now we've been alluded to it, we would expect the

806
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Speaker 15: Minister and the Minister's office to actually have a little

807
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Speaker 15: review of this and check that it does actually align

808
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Speaker 15: with the cabinets clear and clear directive around services to

809
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Speaker 15: be provided on need not race.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've written to Scottsson, the relevant minister here. Has

811
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Speaker 2: there been any indication that Scott Simpson actually wants to.

812
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Speaker 3: Kill this off?

813
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 10: Look, not so far.

814
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Speaker 15: I mean I probably wouldn't be on air with you

815
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Speaker 15: this afternoon if we had heard back. But so far,

816
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Speaker 15: not at all. But yet, Look, we're hopeful. I think

817
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Speaker 15: that there is. The coalition's good. We've got a good

818
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Speaker 15: working relationship with Scott, so hopeful that he'll.

819
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Speaker 2: Have You read the newsroom article on this.

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Speaker 15: I don't know if I have. Has it just popped up?

821
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Speaker 2: No, it's been up all day basically, Laura. But it

822
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Speaker 2: seems to me that Scott Simpson's pretty stoked with this

823
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Speaker 2: and is going to carry on with it.

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Speaker 10: Oh.

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Speaker 15: Look, I mean, if that is what Scott has quoted,

826
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Speaker 15: then that is on him. But look, I think the

827
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 15: Cabinet directive was very clear around making sure that we

828
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Speaker 15: have services that are based on need and not race,

829
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Speaker 15: and this policy here, as far as we're concerned, we've

830
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Speaker 15: not received any good evidence to show that actually this

831
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Speaker 15: is targeted and it's well targeted. So I think that

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Speaker 15: it does go. You know, it's completely against the Cabinet

833
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 15: directive and I think that we need to be really

834
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Speaker 15: serious about this government's intentions.

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Speaker 2: Scott Simpson says the initiative is in fact need based.

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Speaker 15: Well, that might be something that Scott does say, and

837
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Speaker 15: I'm yet to see an evidence and look, I'm up

838
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Speaker 15: to be convinced otherwise, but so far we've not been provided,

839
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Speaker 15: or my offices have not been provided any evidence that

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Speaker 15: this is in fact actually evidence based. I mean, as

841
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Speaker 15: far as I'm concerned, I think it's great that we're

842
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Speaker 15: going to be targeting a seat tore like manufacturing. I

843
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 15: think that is a good thing to do. But everybody

844
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Speaker 15: deserves to go to work and come home safe, and

845
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Speaker 15: it's completely lazy and I actually think it is a

846
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Speaker 15: bit racist saying one group of people, a particular group

847
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Speaker 15: of people need some specific targeted training and what's going

848
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Speaker 15: to happen to the rest of everybody else. Yeah, I

849
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Speaker 15: think that's actually really unfair.

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Speaker 2: Orah, Thanks, mate, really appreciated. Laura McClure, act party spokesperson

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Speaker 2: for AC he see, we're going to come back to

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Speaker 2: Scott Simson and attach fourteen.

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Speaker 3: Past five Heaver do forsy Ellen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Scott apparently. By the way, it's a little busy

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Speaker 2: to be talking to us today. I think Scott. Scott's

856
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Speaker 2: got some work in the electorate office all day to day,

857
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Speaker 2: which is what I would do. I would do if

858
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Speaker 2: somebody was calling me about a thing and I was like,

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Speaker 2: oh gosh, here we go. So now I'm busy all

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Speaker 2: day in my electorate office. Well, we'll be here on Monday.

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Speaker 11: Scott.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, listen on the Chippy on the car situation. Yes,

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Speaker 2: fair question on the on the text to Chippy get

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Speaker 2: a cart. No, Chippy didn't get a car. All the

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Speaker 2: other former prime minister's got a car, but Chippy didn't

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Speaker 2: get a car because Chippy wasn't there long enough. I

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Speaker 2: think the cut off for something like two years before

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Speaker 2: we buy you a car, So Chippy didn't do the

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Speaker 2: job long enough. So he didn't get a car, and

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Speaker 2: also JK didn't get a car because he's a decent

871
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Speaker 2: guy and he was like, I can pay for my

872
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Speaker 2: own car, so we'll respect that. Hither, you are going

873
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Speaker 2: soft in the stop borrowing money for useless prime minister's cars.

874
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 2: We are broke. Bloody hell, Heather three hundred thousand dollars

875
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Speaker 2: for those cars as ten hip replacements. These free loading

876
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 2: grifter ex prime ministers should hold their heads in shame.

877
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Speaker 2: Go to the hardle on that later quarter path.

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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 2: The rssay's annual Poppy Appeal is underway right now now.

880
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Speaker 2: Every day, the RSA supports veterans of military service and

881
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: their family in every community in New Zealand, and there

882
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Speaker 2: are over sixty thousand veterans just created since nineteen ninety,

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Speaker 2: so it means the demand for their services that the

884
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Speaker 2: RSA has never been higher. Military personnel can be affected

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Speaker 2: mentally and also physically, both by the environments that they

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Speaker 2: required to serve in but also the situations that they

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Speaker 2: were exposed to. And while most will have no issues,

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Speaker 2: some will struggle to reintegrate, will suffer from past injuries,

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00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 2: or will experience ongoing mental health issues as a result

890
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Speaker 2: of their service. Now support is available through ours, but

891
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 2: because they're not funded, they actually rely on our help.

892
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: So this year there are more ways that you can give.

893
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: You can text Poppy to eight five nine five it's

894
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: eight five nine five to instantly donate three dollars. You

895
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 2: can donate online at arisa dot org dot nz slash

896
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Speaker 2: donate or look out for the street collectors on Poppy Day.

897
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Speaker 2: Heather Duplasy coming up nineteen past five. Now, the government's

898
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Speaker 2: being told it needs to help pay for reality TV

899
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Speaker 2: shows that are made locally. So at the moment, local

900
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Speaker 2: versions of shows like Maths and whatnot, they don't get

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00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: the full forty percent screen production rebate that is available

902
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 2: in New Zealand, and all of our major TV broadcasters

903
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: want them obviously to be able to get that. Irene

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Speaker 2: Gardner is president of Sparta and is with us. Now, hey, Irene,

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Speaker 2: hi there. If they're not getting the forty percent, what

906
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Speaker 2: are they getting.

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Speaker 16: Historically, those big format shows were made with commercial money.

908
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Speaker 16: They were made with network money, which came from advertising revenue. Unfortunately,

909
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Speaker 16: what's happened in our local industry is because of years

910
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 16: and years of the big techers operating here without regulation.

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Speaker 16: Advertising revenue is massively reduced, and the spend that the

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Speaker 16: big networks TVNZ and three have for local content has

913
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Speaker 16: basically gone down by about fifty million a year, which

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Speaker 16: you know, which is like about half. So it's massive

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Speaker 16: and in a weird kind of a way, we've got

916
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 16: a weird situation that's developed in New Zealand where the

917
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Speaker 16: less commercial kinds of shows, which have historically been funded

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Speaker 16: by our funding agencies, ends it on air, et cetera,

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Speaker 16: are in a stronger position now than our more commercial,

920
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Speaker 16: more popular, more loved shows, including some of those big

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Speaker 16: format style they're probably more the format entertainment end than

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Speaker 16: the really low end reality because that's you know, the

923
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Speaker 16: really low end of reality, the sort of you know,

924
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Speaker 16: real house wise of whatever. That's not what New Zealanders

925
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Speaker 16: tend to like. It's the more sophisticated ones like the Traders,

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Speaker 16: the Block Master Chef, and those shows are now super

927
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Speaker 16: super vulnerable. So what we have been advocating for is

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Speaker 16: a few enhancements to the screen production rebate that we

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Speaker 16: stick part of it so that those shows which have

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Speaker 16: historically not been eligible if they're based on an international format,

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Speaker 16: might be eligible to get that rebate. Back, which would

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Speaker 16: mean the networks would still have to put money in

933
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Speaker 16: and the producers would still have to find international or

934
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Speaker 16: other money to support that. So this is quite hard

935
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Speaker 16: to get together. So it's not like this is going

936
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Speaker 16: to suddenly be like a rush of millions of shows.

937
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Speaker 16: This is going to be the big ones that the

938
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Speaker 16: big production companies can get international money and get these

939
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Speaker 16: shows to happen. But the will just be the thing

940
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Speaker 16: that will get them over the line so that we

941
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Speaker 16: get to keep some of those you know, popular show.

942
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Speaker 2: Master Chief won't offend anybody, But are we talking about

943
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Speaker 2: shows like f Boy Island.

944
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Speaker 16: I would be very surprised if that's the sort of

945
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Speaker 16: thing that a New Zealand production company would do in

946
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Speaker 16: the current climate, because it just wouldn't really be forgular enough.

947
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Speaker 16: There is a sort of a weird I don't know

948
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Speaker 16: what the double standard is the right expression, I mean,

949
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Speaker 16: maybe a loophole where weirdly, the international rebate, which, which

950
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Speaker 16: to be fair, is an entirely business incentive, whereas the

951
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Speaker 16: domestic one has a little bit of a cultural attachment

952
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 16: to it, but the international one. Weirdly, if an international

953
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Speaker 16: production company decided to do one of those low end

954
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Speaker 16: reality shows here they would get their twenty percent rebate,

955
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Speaker 16: but if a New Zealand company tried to do it,

956
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Speaker 16: we wouldn't. So's the sort of a weird little twist there.

957
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Speaker 2: Very complicated, isn't it, Irene?

958
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Speaker 3: It isn't complicated.

959
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we better go.

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Speaker 16: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it, but we need to we need to

962
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Speaker 2: move on. We'll definitely check this on too, the hard

963
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Speaker 2: latter on this Irene Gardner, SPARTA President, five twenty two.

964
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Speaker 3: Checking the point of the story.

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Speaker 1: It's hither duplicy, Ellen, drive with one New Zealand, let's

966
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Speaker 1: get connected and youth.

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Speaker 2: Dogs'd be five twenty five now listen. I hope that

968
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Speaker 2: this acc business is a scotsmson problem and not a

969
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 2: national problem. But I'm starting to get a little worried

970
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Speaker 2: about it because this is at least the third case

971
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Speaker 2: of race based stuff still happening under National when we

972
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Speaker 2: thought National was going to put a stop to it.

973
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Speaker 2: I mean, at least with the free GP visits in

974
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Speaker 2: Hawks Bay for Maori and Pacifica kids and no one else.

975
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Speaker 2: At least that stuff could be blamed on rogue public

976
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Speaker 2: health stuff. And it was kelled as soon as we

977
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Speaker 2: discovered it was happening, and at least with the co

978
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Speaker 2: governance stuff that's going on in the way Tuckety rangers

979
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Speaker 2: at a stretch. We may believe that the government didn't

980
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Speaker 2: know about it, maybe, but this ACC stuff the Minister

981
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: knows about and even though he was told about it,

982
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Speaker 2: he's not going to stop it because, as I told

983
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Speaker 2: you in the newsroom article, he stands by ACC. He

984
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Speaker 2: thinks it's okay. Now, I reckon this is going to

985
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: be just a little disappointing to a whole bunch of

986
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: voters who put this government in power to stop this

987
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Speaker 2: race based stuff that Willie Jackson and the Labour Party

988
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 2: were pushing. And who would have thought that directive to

989
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: the public service that went out last year telling the

990
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Speaker 2: public servants to stop the race based stuff was actually

991
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Speaker 2: going to stop the race based stuff. National needs to

992
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: cut the stuff out. They need to stop this. So

993
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: they either need to stop it themselves or they need

994
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 2: to go along to Scottsson and tell him to stop it,

995
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: because otherwise a lot of voters are going to wise

996
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: up to exactly what Act was warning us at the election,

997
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 2: which is that National is not actually going to change anything.

998
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: National is just labor in blue clothes. And if you

999
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: think I'm going too far saying that, just take a

1000
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 2: look at what is going on. I'll remind you Nikola

1001
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 2: Willis has spent more in her last budget than Grant

1002
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: Robertson ever spent. Scott Simpson clearly loves himself a little

1003
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: race based target. Now what did we complain about at

1004
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: nauseum with Labor? We complained about too much spending. We've

1005
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 2: still got that going on, too much racial division, still

1006
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Speaker 2: got that going on. So how is this any different? Currently?

1007
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: As I say, National needs to cut this out or

1008
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 2: it needs to risk losing voters to its coalition partners,

1009
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 2: because the coalition partners at this stage are actually taking

1010
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: a tougher line on this stuff.

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Speaker 3: Heaver du seen take that to the huddle.

1012
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: They have a chat to us. It's evening. We've got

1013
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 2: Mark Sainsbury and Nick Leggett. Can I just so happy?

1014
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 2: But not that he's listening. But Prince Louis has turned seven.

1015
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: I'm raising this with you because he's the best, isn't he.

1016
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Speaker 2: Prince Louis is the best of that. He's the naughty one,

1017
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: and everybody loves the naughty one until of course they

1018
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 2: grow up and become Prince Andrew. We don't want that

1019
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 2: at this stage. We still like Prince Louis. The Royals

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Speaker 2: have put a little clip up on social media to

1021
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Speaker 2: celebrate his birthday, and he is looking so gorgeous at seven.

1022
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Speaker 2: He's got the little he's got that little ugly gap.

1023
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Speaker 2: You know how the kids get the ugly gap around

1024
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: that age where they lose the teeth and then they

1025
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 2: look a bit funny. He's got that at the moment

1026
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: and it's just adorable. He's also because he's now a

1027
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Speaker 2: big boy. The Royals are letting him wear long pants,

1028
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 2: which is what they do, which is nice. It's to

1029
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Speaker 2: treat and it's also warm. So he's getting to be

1030
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Speaker 2: at our school. Just go and have a look. Enjoy,

1031
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 2: happy birth back to him.

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Speaker 1: After making the news, the newsmakers talk to Heather first.

1033
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Speaker 1: It's Heather duplessy Ellen drive with one New Zealand. Let's

1034
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Speaker 1: get connected news talks.

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Speaker 6: They'd be.

1036
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Speaker 2: Never that's one of your best political summaries for a while.

1037
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Speaker 12: Yet.

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00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: Labor or national actually just equals labor lights Mark, thanks

1039
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 2: very much. We're gonna put this to the huddle shortly

1040
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: when we have a chat to them. Also, Peter lewis

1041
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: our Asia but regular Asia Business correspondent is standing by

1042
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: to have a chat to us after six o'clock about

1043
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 2: how China is reacting to Trump apparently blinking on these

1044
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 2: tariffs that he had proposed. Right now, it's twenty four

1045
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 2: away from six now. Got a little bit of an

1046
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: issue going on by the looks of things in the

1047
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: medical community. So the Medical Council is launching inquiry and

1048
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Speaker 2: to doctors who are giving out prescriptions for medicinal medicinal

1049
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Speaker 2: cannabis at these cannabis clinics. It comes after complainants for

1050
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Speaker 2: our complaints from patients who say that they were not

1051
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Speaker 2: properly briefed on non cannabis options at the clinics. Doctor

1052
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Speaker 2: Luke Bradford is the medical director for the Royal New

1053
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Speaker 2: Zealand College of GPS and.

1054
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Speaker 3: With us, Hey Luke, Hey, Heather, how are you very well?

1055
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Speaker 3: Thank you?

1056
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Speaker 2: Is that what's going on these guys are rocking up

1057
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 2: or patients are rocking up at the cannabis clinics and

1058
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Speaker 2: they're being given cannabis options but not for example, panadol

1059
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Speaker 2: is an option.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, essentially, I mean there's no other comparable service that

1061
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 11: is based on a treatment option alone as opposed to conditions.

1062
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Speaker 11: So we don't have clinics for any other type of

1063
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Speaker 11: medicine or drug. We have them for different types of conditions.

1064
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Speaker 11: So if you've only got one option in front of you,

1065
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Speaker 11: you're likely to use it, I think, is what's happening.

1066
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Speaker 2: But Luke, does anybody go to a cannabis clinic like

1067
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Speaker 2: you've got You've got to saw leg water there, you

1068
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Speaker 2: go to a cannabis clinic. I mean, the only reason

1069
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Speaker 2: you're there is because you want right. You don't expect

1070
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Speaker 2: them to offer you some traditional pharmaceutical pain relief, do you?

1071
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 11: No? No, So I think that in certain We put

1072
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 11: out a statement in September two twenty three saying that

1073
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Speaker 11: medicinal cannabis is lacking in evidence in the shourney be

1074
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Speaker 11: used once all other options have been trialed. But that's

1075
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Speaker 11: not happening with these clinics.

1076
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Speaker 2: Okay, now what do you want done here?

1077
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Speaker 11: There is no regulation. The medicines aren't tested or proven

1078
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Speaker 11: in the same way as we'd have any other it's

1079
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Speaker 11: just grown cannabis that they do in a relatively sterile manner.

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Speaker 11: We'd like some research done on what you should be

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Speaker 11: using for what, for how long? And in what does

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Speaker 11: And we think that actually these single single purpose clinics

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Speaker 11: should come under some form of regulation because at the.

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Speaker 2: Moment there is a mini yeah, so you do you do?

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Speaker 2: You want it to be a little bit, I mean,

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Speaker 2: what's I don't even know I how this works at

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Speaker 2: the moment. What do people do? Do They go in

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Speaker 2: and they say, look, I've got chronic migraines, and so

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Speaker 2: you justasically take enough oil you sort of figure it

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Speaker 2: out yourself, do you Well.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, almost, it's not quite. It's often it's an online

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Speaker 11: tick box exercise. First you go online and tick which

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Speaker 11: symptoms you have and your severity of it, and then

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Speaker 11: they'll direct you to whether or what you are suitable

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Speaker 11: for meddicinal cannabis, which seems to be universal, yes, despite

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Speaker 11: the fact that the actual conditions we know it works

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Speaker 11: for are fairly limited. And then you'll have some kind

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Speaker 11: of comes of it. Isn't looking at your whole health

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Speaker 11: journey necessarily, isn't looking at what other medicines you're on

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Speaker 11: and what else has been trialed? And then you're given

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Speaker 11: various formulations of THC containing and CBD containing medicines in

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Speaker 11: t's and inhalations.

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Speaker 2: And the light at different doses, do you different strengths Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well yeah, and it's not really clear what strength

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Speaker 11: certainly in the THC you're getting because you're making your

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Speaker 11: own tea out of it or putting it through a vaporizer.

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Speaker 2: It's not like and then isn't a case of trial

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Speaker 2: and error. Each patient trial does it themselves. It just

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Speaker 2: figures out what how many cups of tea they have

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Speaker 2: to drink to feel good?

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Speaker 11: I think I think they probably are given a starting

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Speaker 11: point that essentially yes, yeah.

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Speaker 2: All right, interesting, Hey, thanks very much. I really appreciate

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Speaker 2: you talking us through that. That's Luke Bradford, Royal, New

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Speaker 2: Zealand College of GP's medical director. Twenty one away from.

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Speaker 1: Six the Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the

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Speaker 1: ones with worldwide connections that perform, not a promise, not.

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Speaker 2: All this evening. Mark Sainsbury Broadcaster and Nick Leggett Infrastructure,

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Speaker 2: New Zealand High Lads. Hello, oh Sainso's done it again,

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Speaker 2: Nick So, sains were you back?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I am, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Sains So So before I've been warned about you. They

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Speaker 2: said to me, I hear the while you've been away

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Speaker 2: on maternity leave, Sainzo's been bloody while muting himself with

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Speaker 2: his cheeks again, and I said he was doing that

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Speaker 2: last year. And then we lose you like before it's

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Speaker 2: even what's going on.

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Speaker 17: Just look, I'm just you just you threatened me with

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Speaker 17: your eloquence and everything that.

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Speaker 2: Sort of evidently so does Ryan because it was happening

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Speaker 2: when I was out here. I just think you're you're

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Speaker 2: a boomer king on the phone, aren't you go? That's right?

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Speaker 2: Nick Listen. How do you feel about the US buying

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Speaker 2: the prime minister's cars after they're no longer prime ministers?

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Speaker 18: I've got absolutely no problem with it.

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Speaker 6: Whatever.

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Speaker 18: These are people that have served New Zealand and the

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Speaker 18: top office, and irrespective of that service and the work

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Speaker 18: they put in as prime minister, I think the truth

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Speaker 18: is that former prime ministers are actually called upon to

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Speaker 18: do quite a lot of free stuff. And I know

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Speaker 18: because I'm someone that's asked some of them to do,

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Speaker 18: you know, come and speak at events and have lunches

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Speaker 18: with people and talk about experiences, and they say yes,

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Speaker 18: and they don't get paid so I think that you know,

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Speaker 18: contributing to their vehicle, you know, servicing a vehicle for

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Speaker 18: them buying a vehicle, I think are pretty small. It's

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Speaker 18: not a massive contribution to people who have contributed very

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Speaker 18: significantly to the country and continue to do so. I mean,

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Speaker 18: I think we're very well served by former prime ministers

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Speaker 18: of all stripes, and I think that most Keys would say, yep,

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Speaker 18: these are people that have served. But they also there's

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Speaker 18: some wisdom amongst the slot and we continue to benefit

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Speaker 18: from it as a country. So I think it's mean

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Speaker 18: spirited if we don't honor the legislation that allows them

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Speaker 18: these vehicles.

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Speaker 17: Say yeah, well, it's interesting you look at the Remuneration Authority,

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Speaker 17: which sort of controls all that sort of basically said,

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Speaker 17: you know that these were provided because like with the

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Speaker 17: Chauff driven cars, if you're in the Crown cars, if

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Speaker 17: you're doing business in relation to you being and former

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Speaker 17: prime minister, like you know, if Nick was, you know,

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Speaker 17: shoehorned them into coming along to sort of something. But

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Speaker 17: I also noticed that the self drive cars Jim Bolge's

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Speaker 17: eighty nine, is he still driving?

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Speaker 2: What's a good point? Does missus Bulger get permission, bultilar Age.

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Speaker 17: I mean, you know, I think Jim made a huge

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Speaker 17: contribution to this country, quite frankly, but you sort of

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Speaker 17: wonder why on earth would you provide a car to

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Speaker 17: someone who probably doesn't drive well?

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Speaker 2: This is a fair point. Also, Nick, have you looked

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Speaker 2: at some of these cars because they're ugly? Ain't like

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Speaker 2: the only one the only person with class?

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Speaker 18: Much happier to critique that the choice of vehicle than

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Speaker 18: whether or not the vehicle's provided here, I agree.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the only one with class is Helen

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Speaker 2: because she went for the MG which is a tight

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Speaker 2: little vehicle. But the other ones are hideous, aren't they.

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 18: I don't think the hun I con as a beauties

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Speaker 18: I quite like Jim Bolger's Outlander because that's what my

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Speaker 18: family's got. But look, the point is these are people

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Speaker 18: that have served the country. They continue to serve the country.

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Speaker 18: I think it's it's it's it's mean and nitpicky to

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Speaker 18: go after them on pretty small costs when they when

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Speaker 18: they're continuing to contribute.

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Speaker 2: Okay, saying so, how do you feel about funding increasing

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Speaker 2: the funding for reality TV shows that are made in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand and the risk being that we do end

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Speaker 2: up funding f Boy Island.

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Speaker 17: Well, I mean, well it should we also be funding

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Speaker 17: the news, have you got? I mean it's interesting because

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Speaker 17: that whole scheme was set up to try and preserve

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Speaker 17: the industry and develop the skills and everything like that.

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Speaker 17: I see one of the criteria was that it's of

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Speaker 17: cultural benefit to New Zealand. Now f Boy Ireland or

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Speaker 17: rous other ones, I do not know how they're going

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Speaker 17: to be contributing to the cultural benefit of this country. Yeah,

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Speaker 17: it's I can understand the fund in terms of supporting production,

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Speaker 17: but is this saying no production can survive anymore? Anything

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Speaker 17: we make in this country is going to have to

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Speaker 17: be it's going to have to be heavily subsidized.

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Speaker 2: I mean I can sort of understand funding the news

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Speaker 2: because there is some democratic value in having news served

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Speaker 2: up to you. But is there any value in having

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Speaker 2: maths New Zealand served up to you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 18: I don't think we should make a sort of a

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Speaker 18: value judgment based on whether or not it's within our

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Speaker 18: personal taste. I think Mark's point about supporting local production

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Speaker 18: is a good one. I mean, culture comes in all forms,

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Speaker 18: and I think that.

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Speaker 2: Being an I am and I can't know.

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Speaker 6: I know, so I don't.

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Speaker 18: I don't watch. I don't watch that stuff. I do

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Speaker 18: know there are people close to me who do. But

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Speaker 18: I just I think that it comes in all forms, right,

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Speaker 18: and even though it's not, you know, your individual choice

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Speaker 18: to watch it. I don't think we can be snooty

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Speaker 18: about the choices people make. So I'm actually I'm in

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Speaker 18: favor of like supporting local content and if it means

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Speaker 18: if it's something that's a bit low brow, well so be.

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Speaker 2: It a bit low brow. He's totally low brow. All right,

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Speaker 2: We'll take a break, come back to you guys in

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Speaker 2: a tech quarter.

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Speaker 1: Two the Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty achieve

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Speaker 1: extraordinary results with unparallel reach.

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Speaker 2: Right back with the Huddle, Mark Sainsbury, Nick Leg's says,

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Speaker 2: so what do you make of the fact that this

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Speaker 2: race based stuff is still happening under national Yeah?

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Speaker 17: Well, I mean you look at the Cabinet director and

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Speaker 17: you can see there's going to be some issues there.

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Speaker 17: But by the same token, it's this whole thing over

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Speaker 17: need versus race, you know, and if you're going to

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Speaker 17: judge things on need, if they look at the States

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Speaker 17: and says that this particular group, you know, are more

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Speaker 17: prone to a more prone or have a higher accident rate.

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Speaker 17: You know, this is not conferring some special status or

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Speaker 17: no monetary benefit. It's saying, if we think it's a problem,

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Speaker 17: that's trying and solve it. I run thing called Men's

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Speaker 17: Health Week and one of the things for that is

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Speaker 17: that the stats for PACIFICA and Mari men are just

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Speaker 17: appalling half of them will not get the pension. So

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Speaker 17: is it wrong then to focus on those groups if

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Speaker 17: you see there's a specific need. I think you can

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Speaker 17: get caught up sometimes. I think in all of this

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Speaker 17: and I think if the outcome is going to be good,

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Speaker 17: then what the hell?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the problem here really is the fact that there

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Speaker 2: was a directive that went out to public servants to

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Speaker 2: stop doing this stuff. The nets and Act and New

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Speaker 2: Zealand Verse were elected on the understanding by a lot

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Speaker 2: of voter is that they would stop doing the stuff.

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Speaker 2: To have a national minister just totally defy that and

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Speaker 2: say he's going to keep doing it, there's your problem, right,

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Speaker 2: It's it's voters expectations, isn't it.

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Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 18: I think Mark has hit it on the head. I mean,

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Speaker 18: you could argue here that you've got groups that are

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Speaker 18: disproportionately impacted by workplace accidents because of the sort of

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Speaker 18: work that they do. So you've got Mardi and Pacifica

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Speaker 18: communities who have more accidents than you know, their proportion

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Speaker 18: of the workforce. That's not to target them to reduce

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Speaker 18: the harm that they are receiving disproportionately. It's not race based.

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Speaker 18: That's need based. No, it's not, because it's the need

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Speaker 18: that No, it's not disproportionately affected.

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Speaker 2: It literally is. If you are identifying people based on race,

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Speaker 2: that is race based.

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Speaker 18: It is need based, need based. Here the disproportionately negatively impacted. Yes,

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Speaker 18: that's a need.

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Speaker 12: Yea.

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Speaker 2: We're just going to go around in circles on this one.

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Speaker 2: But I would argue that everybody who gets injured is

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Speaker 2: in need of being of being saved from that injury.

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Speaker 2: When you start splitting it down gender lines, that's gender based.

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Speaker 2: When you start splitting it down racial lines, it's race based.

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Speaker 9: Right, So I think I think I.

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Speaker 18: Think it's a it is a fair point. How do

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Speaker 18: you actually target how do you go after the group

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Speaker 18: of the people that are going to be impacted by

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Speaker 18: injury hurt themselves, and then you do sometimes have to target.

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Speaker 2: Let me put it, Let me put it to you,

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Speaker 2: what proportion of the workers in the manufacturing sector are

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Speaker 2: Maori in Pacifica.

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Speaker 18: I think it was for it was eleven eighteen percent targeting.

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Speaker 2: That was the target that they were aiming for, right,

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Speaker 2: But what proportion of them actually are those workers?

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Speaker 6: Do you know what?

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Speaker 2: I mean?

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Speaker 18: That's what that's what That's what my understanding and reading

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Speaker 18: that was that that those were the figures.

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Speaker 6: Then you've got a number that isn't that.

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Speaker 2: So then if you have eighteen percent of your workers

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Speaker 2: who are injured working in that sector being Maori and

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Speaker 2: eleven percent being Pacifica, if you just managed to save

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Speaker 2: those those injuries five hundred, then it should split down

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Speaker 2: those lines, shouldn't it if you just do it? Of course,

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Speaker 2: that's right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: You don't need to set this target. It should just

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Speaker 2: naturally happen.

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Speaker 6: Well, I don't think that they're mutually exclusive.

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Speaker 18: I think you said, we want to stop people getting

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Speaker 18: hurt in the workplace, right, and if we can go

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Speaker 18: after groups that are disproportionately getting hurt in the workplace

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Speaker 18: to reduce the total number. Why wouldn't we do that,

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Speaker 18: But you're right, we should be doing it in general

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Speaker 18: terms as well.

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Speaker 6: It's not all of one or none of the other.

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Speaker 6: We want.

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Speaker 18: What we want to do is stop people getting hurt.

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Speaker 18: So I think Scott Simpson has been responsible as a

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Speaker 18: minister to back this. It is we want to go

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Speaker 18: where need is. We want to target people and groups

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Speaker 18: who we know are getting hurt at greater rates. I

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Speaker 18: don't think I imagine anybody thinking that's a bad idea.

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Speaker 18: We we've got to we've got to step back and

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Speaker 18: I think just think about one of the most effective

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Speaker 18: ways to reduce heart and if this isn't an effective way,

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Speaker 18: well let's do something else. But until it's you know,

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Speaker 18: till it's shine that isn't, then let's keep keeping.

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Speaker 2: I've letting it go for so long. You want to

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Speaker 2: do you want to just chip in with something before

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Speaker 2: we end this.

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Speaker 17: Now, look, well I suppose that's all the fast The

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Speaker 17: other the other week about sort of you know, pregnant

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Speaker 17: persons and actually not using the word woman, and you

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Speaker 17: look at this and think this is just about as mad.

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Speaker 17: I mean, if there is a problem and there is

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Speaker 17: a couple of cohorts a couple of groups that need attention.

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Speaker 17: Then what's what's so wrong with doing it? We're just

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Speaker 17: sort of, oh, we don't mention the race work.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, Okay, guys, thank you that appreciate it. Mark Sainsbury

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Speaker 2: broadcast that and Nick leget Infrastructure New Zealand. Seven away from.

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Speaker 1: Six It's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on my Heart Radio powered by news Talks that be.

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Speaker 6: Here.

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Speaker 2: The simple question for you, how does being or Pacifica

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Speaker 2: make you get injured more? It doesn't. Well, this is

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Speaker 2: very interesting thing that Bill has raised just on the subject.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how being Mari or Pacifica would make

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Speaker 2: you get injured more, which means I'm not sure how

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Speaker 2: you stop it. How do you target a mari in

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Speaker 2: a pacificer worker and the manufacturing sector to stop them

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Speaker 2: being injured?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: One of the obvious ones is maybe a language thing,

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Speaker 2: like you put some posters up in various Pacific languages,

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Speaker 2: or maybe in Mari being like don't get hurt. These

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Speaker 2: are the things you want to do not to get hurt.

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Speaker 2: But beyond that, I am completely out of ideas, So

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Speaker 2: I just don't know how you tuch, Look what do

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Speaker 2: you do especially for Maria and PACIFICA workers in order

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Speaker 2: to stop them getting hurt. This is where we need

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Speaker 2: to talk to the minister Scott Simpson, who is unavailable

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Speaker 2: because he's busy today. Anyway, hopefully he will he will

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Speaker 2: rethink that and come and have a chat to us

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Speaker 2: on Monday. We'll put in the bit again four away

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Speaker 2: from six now. Yesterday this time on the program, I

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Speaker 2: said to you Toto was going to do it.

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Speaker 3: Call.

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Speaker 2: Guess what. Toto did not do it on I was

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Speaker 2: completely and utterly wrong the pointed which I said they would,

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Speaker 2: because I looked at the setlist and I was like,

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Speaker 2: last two songs I hold the line in Africa, they'll

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Speaker 2: do an encore before that they didn't. They stopped everything

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Speaker 2: and just introduced the band for a really long time,

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Speaker 2: and then they carried on playing and they played to

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Speaker 2: hold the Line banger, and then they played Africa and

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Speaker 2: we all went nuts, and then they were like bye,

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Speaker 2: and they walked off the stage and we didn't do

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Speaker 2: an encore. And Jenny Mortimer, who raised it in her

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Speaker 2: her hatred on encore editorial in the paper yesterday, was banging.

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Speaker 2: It was lovely and refreshing, but also, can I tell

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Speaker 2: you I never realized that Toto was a band made

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Speaker 2: up of session musicians who were apparently some of the

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Speaker 2: hottest session musicians in the seventies and eighties. The guy

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Speaker 2: who's the last of the og lineup, who's on the guitar,

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Speaker 2: is responsible for the guitar on this Michael Jackson song.

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Speaker 2: And then like a whole bunch of other stuff Quincy

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Speaker 2: Jones and stuff. And the guy who now does the

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Speaker 2: League vocals lead vocals sang this song in the Lion

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Speaker 2: King movie.

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Speaker 3: Nos pray me to worries some far the rest of

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Speaker 3: your day.

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Speaker 2: So when I said to you that I was going

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Speaker 2: to see Toto, a daggy old dad band with one hit,

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Speaker 2: A not just a daggy old dad band with one

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Speaker 2: hit that I did a whole bunch of other cool

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Speaker 2: stuff as well. Peter Lewis next, enjoy.

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Speaker 1: We're Business meets Insight the Business Hour. It's with hither

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Speaker 2: Even in coming up in the next hour, Sam Dickie's

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Speaker 2: going to talk us through Trump attacking the Federal Reserve

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Speaker 2: chair and the implications on independence. Apparently, cheesemakers are not

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Speaker 2: stoked that they're being pushed around by home brand cheese

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Speaker 2: in the supermarket shelves. Sir Rod Duncan on that in

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Speaker 2: the Liam down on the inflation expectations in seven past Sex.

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Speaker 2: Now the Wall Street Journal is reporting that Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: is considering slashing tariffs on Chinese goods by more than half. Now.

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Speaker 2: No decisions have been made just yet, reportedly, but that

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Speaker 2: would mean that tariffs could come down to between fifty

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Speaker 2: and sixty five percent. China, on the other hand, has

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Speaker 2: signal it's open to trade talks but won't negotiate under

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Speaker 2: Duris Now. Peter Lewis is our Asia business correspondent with

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Speaker 2: US Now have Peter.

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Speaker 3: Good Evening Heather, it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: I meaning nothing is set in stone just yet, but

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Speaker 2: it feels like things are calming down.

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Speaker 8: Yet they are calming down, but I think from China's perspective,

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Speaker 8: the way they're presenting this, particularly that Wall Street Journal

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Speaker 8: reports which suggested taroft's on China could be halved. They

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Speaker 8: say it as Trump blinking first and it being a

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Speaker 8: vindication of President's strategy, which is to hang tough there

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Speaker 8: as you said earlier, not to be bullied and not

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Speaker 8: to negotiate under duess. Now, Scott Besson's The US Treasury

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Speaker 8: Sect yesterday said that Trump hasn't offered to just remove

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Speaker 8: tariffs on his own. There has to be a mutual

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Speaker 8: the escalation and tariff's sort of come off together. Well,

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Speaker 8: China has made it very clear that that isn't going

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Speaker 8: to happen, and it does appear that the White House

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Speaker 8: is misreading the room again here, China's view has been

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Speaker 8: very much, you put these tariffs on. We didn't ask

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Speaker 8: for this, we didn't start this trade war. Therefore, you

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Speaker 8: are going to have to take them off, and once

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Speaker 8: you do that, we are then open to negotiations. But

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Speaker 8: this idea that there's going to be some mutual reduction

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Speaker 8: in tariffs over time is not what China has been saying.

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Speaker 8: And furthermore, they sort of see it as a sign

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Speaker 8: that this is an administration in the US that is

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Speaker 8: in some disarray. It doesn't have a trade or economic policy.

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Speaker 8: You have taris put on one day, then suspended the next,

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Speaker 8: then exemptions, a whole bewildering array of exemptions announced. This

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Speaker 8: is very much giving the impression to China that there

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Speaker 8: isn't a coherent trade policy or strategy. It's being made

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Speaker 8: up as they go along on the whim of one

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Speaker 8: man in the White House.

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Speaker 2: What is China prepared to give.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's prepared to try and see if there can

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Speaker 8: be some more balanced trade. It agrees that, you know,

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Speaker 8: there are some problems in the global economy, and it

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Speaker 8: can offer to buy more things from the US. But

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Speaker 8: the problem is that if the ultimate aim here is

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Speaker 8: to reduce the US trade deficit with China and either

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Speaker 8: put it into balance or bring it in somehow into surplus,

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Speaker 8: China has made the calculation quite correctly in my view,

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Speaker 8: that there is going to be pain on both sides,

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Speaker 8: but China and its consumers are far more willing and

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Speaker 8: far more able to bear that pain. Because if you

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Speaker 8: want to reduce a trade deficit, you have to bear

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Speaker 8: in mind that trade is one side of the coin.

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Speaker 8: On the other side of the coin, they are all

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Speaker 8: the capital flows, and these have to balance.

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Speaker 6: So if you.

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Speaker 8: Reduce the trade deficits, what it means is that there

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Speaker 8: is less money going into the US, So Americans are

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Speaker 8: going to have to save more, They're going to have

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Speaker 8: to buy less not just the foreign goods but of

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Speaker 8: their own but of their own goods, and there's going

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Speaker 8: to have to be more domestic investment into manufacturing in

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Speaker 8: the US. Now, we know that Americans love to spend,

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Speaker 8: and they love to spend on borrowed money. They've been

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Speaker 8: doing it for years, So this is going to be

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Speaker 8: a major change if they want to reduce the trade deficits.

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Speaker 8: And it's also going to have implications for the dollar

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Speaker 8: because I said that capital flows are the other side

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Speaker 8: of this. If you have a lower trade deficit, then

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Speaker 8: there is less demand for the dollar around the world.

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Speaker 8: And you cannot damage China's trading capabilities without also damaging

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Speaker 8: its ability to either want or require US dollars. So

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Speaker 8: this is going to weaken the US dollar over time

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Speaker 8: and ultimately threaten its status as the world's reserve currency.

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Speaker 8: Is the US really prepared to pay that price? I

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Speaker 8: suspect not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Peter, Hey, thank you as always, really appreciated. Look

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Speaker 2: after yourself. That's Peter Lewis our Asia business correspondents staying

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Speaker 2: on Donald Trump. This This will come as no surprise

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Speaker 2: to you if you were listening to the show yesterday,

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Speaker 2: But it looks like the peace deal. As we kind

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Speaker 2: of mentioned earlier, the peace deal between Russia and Ukraine

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Speaker 2: is really going to be a hard one to stick

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Speaker 2: together because Donald Trump has apparently proposed that what Ukraine

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Speaker 2: needs to give up is Crimea and then all of

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Speaker 2: the land that the Russia, that Russia is currently occupied.

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Speaker 2: Zelensky has let it be known that he's not prepared

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Speaker 2: to give up Crimea. So he's obviously a problem for

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump, and Donald Trump has now had to crack

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Speaker 2: at him publicly. It's gone on to truth social He's

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Speaker 2: claimed a deal to end the war was very close,

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Speaker 2: but that Zelenski's refusal to accept the US terms quote

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Speaker 2: will do nothing but prolong the conflict. So, according to Trump,

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Speaker 2: Zelensky's the problem. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: is continuing its long standing tradition of ANZAC Day. Coverage

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Speaker 2: starts at quarters to six in the morning. They're going

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Speaker 2: to broadcast live from Auckland War Memorial Museum with Julian

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Speaker 2: Wilcox leading the dawn service, and then throughout the day

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Speaker 2: you're going to find dedicated programming, including a powerful new

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Speaker 2: documentary Narchai Ketty Karpia, uncovering personal stories of the Maori Battalion,

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Speaker 2: plus the premiere of short films Rapido and Fucker Fittinga. Now,

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Speaker 2: at two thirty in the afternoon, they're going to bring

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Speaker 2: live coverage from Gallipoli. You can tune in on the

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Speaker 2: Forcata Marti channel or you can watch online through Marti Plus.

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Speaker 2: This is a meaningful way for all New Zealanders to

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Speaker 2: come together in the spirit of remembrance. Lest we forget, whether.

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Speaker 1: It's macro microbe or just playing economics. It's all on

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Speaker 1: the Business hours with Heather Duplicy Allen and Mass insurance

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Speaker 1: and investments, grow your wealth to protect your future. Youth

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Speaker 1: talks at me.

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Speaker 2: Hither when you're dead, you don't actually know that you're dead.

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Speaker 2: In the same applies to stupid people like Trump sixteen

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Speaker 2: past six and Liam Dan, the Herald's business editor at

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Speaker 2: largers with us A Liam, Hey, Heather, Yeah, did you

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Speaker 2: enjoy Toto last night?

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Speaker 19: I did enjoy Toto? Yeah, yeah, but of you know,

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Speaker 19: yacht rock, bit of eighties rock.

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Speaker 2: I would have thought it a bit. It's a bit

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Speaker 2: like soft glam rock.

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Speaker 3: Well, a lot of it was.

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Speaker 7: It was more.

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Speaker 19: It was more of that than I thought. I mean,

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Speaker 19: it depends whether they're playing their late seventies stuff or

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Speaker 19: their early eighties stuff. But gee, they were good, good musicians.

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Speaker 2: They How many of the songs? Did you know?

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Speaker 3: Though?

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Speaker 19: I knew about five, which maybe means I knew about

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Speaker 19: one more than.

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Speaker 2: Well then so hold the line Rosanna, Africa, Georgie.

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Speaker 19: Paulgi Yeah, there's one called ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: Oh you knew ninety nine? I didn't know that one.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, And there's another one I forgot the name, but

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Speaker 19: it was sampled on a big house track in the

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01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 19: nineteen nineties. That one of the big slow ballads.

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Speaker 2: You know what I've been listening to all day today,

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Speaker 2: the one that goes Pamela. Oh yeah, that was the

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Speaker 2: other one that.

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Speaker 19: Some of it was classic hair metal, wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Pamela was cool and and it's always weird. You

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01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 2: go to a concert and you think, I mean, obviously

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Speaker 2: everybody loved Africa. That was just peak everything. But there's

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Speaker 2: always a weird song that you just love afterwards and

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Speaker 2: you thrash on the Spotify. So New Zealand's listening of

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Speaker 2: Pamela by Toto is going up today markedly. I bet

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Speaker 2: it's totally basted to me. And by the way, you've

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Speaker 2: written a the reason I'm asking you about this is

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Speaker 2: written a review.

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Speaker 3: On the Herald.

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Speaker 2: Now, so your moon lighting some sort of a music

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Speaker 2: for Shionado for the Herald.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well they haven't there.

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Speaker 19: They've got a very hip, young entertainment team, so there

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Speaker 19: hasn't got too many people wanting to do the dad rock.

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Speaker 2: Did nobody want to do the daggy Dads?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 2: So I'm picking it a bit up and share it

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Speaker 2: with me. I'll do it with your heart out. Those

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Speaker 2: young ones don't know what they're missing out on? Was

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Speaker 2: there ever a time as good as Africa? By Toto

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Speaker 2: at Spark Arena last night. Now, listen, let's talk about inflation. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So I see consumer confidence has gone up, which is good,

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Speaker 2: But inflation expectations have gone up as well, and people

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Speaker 2: who are expecting inflation to go up are wrong.

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Speaker 19: Well, yeah, that's kind of kind of the theory. They

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Speaker 19: might be proved right. Things might change, they might change,

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Speaker 19: but at the moment, consumers are still really feeling the

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Speaker 19: acute inflation pressure. I mean, there's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 19: And so the latest consumer confidence confidence was up a bit.

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Speaker 19: That's good, we'll take it. This is the A and

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Speaker 19: Z Roy Morgan consumer confidence. But yeah, consumers also said

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Speaker 19: they were worried about inflation. Now, you know, Sharon zol And,

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Speaker 19: the chief economist at A and Z, has sort of

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Speaker 19: written about this in a report. The point she's trying

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Speaker 19: to make, and I guess I've been trying to make

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Speaker 19: and a lot of people are trying to make, is

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Speaker 19: that inflation probably won't be a problem later this year.

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Speaker 19: And that's because we're expecting the economy is not going

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Speaker 19: to pick up as.

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Speaker 2: Much as hopeful it's going to take a bit of

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Speaker 2: a dive as a result of this.

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Speaker 19: Well, I mean, it's hopefully not going back to recession.

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Speaker 19: But it's just that that you know that the upswing

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Speaker 19: that we're looking for is taking much longer, you know,

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Speaker 19: or all the turmoil around the world sort of that

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Speaker 19: the global growth being dampened just will have an effect

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Speaker 19: on New Zealand, even if there isn't direct impacts from

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Speaker 19: the town.

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Speaker 2: Now, does this thing call into question these surveys where

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Speaker 2: we go out and ask a bunch of normal punters

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Speaker 2: if they expect inflation to go up, and simply because

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Speaker 2: inflation is bad and Trump's tariffs are bad, they go, yeah,

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Speaker 2: is there any value in that?

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Speaker 19: Well, I mean to the extent that they can be

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Speaker 19: self fulfilling. I mean that there's always questions about these surveys,

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Speaker 19: that's for sure. But you know, if consumers really believe something,

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Speaker 19: it affects their behavior and then the behavior goes and

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01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 19: you know, that's how spending goes. So if consumers think

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Speaker 19: things are improving, then maybe they'll get out and spend that. Yeah,

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Speaker 19: it's still still fairly low levels of confidence. But you

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Speaker 19: know that little bit of upswing was probably a good

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Speaker 19: thing on balance.

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Speaker 2: What are you listening to on the way home?

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Speaker 19: Oh, good question. I'll be on my bike. I can't

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Speaker 19: listen to anything on the bike.

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Speaker 3: It's too dangerous. Does that really?

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01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 2: Can you not drive and listen to.

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Speaker 19: Music on the on the cycle?

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Speaker 9: Ah?

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Speaker 2: Yes? About a bicycle?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, bicycle, because you've.

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Speaker 2: Got to leave the jacket on. I thought you were

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Speaker 2: cool and going on a motorbike.

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Speaker 19: No, no, I'm not electric bike.

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Speaker 2: No, it's probably better if you don't because we need

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Speaker 2: you to hear the cars.

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Speaker 19: But yeah, it could have been. Toto could have.

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Speaker 2: Been if he didn't, if he wanted to die. Liam,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, go and enjoy your long weekend. That's Liam Dan,

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Speaker 2: the Herald's Business editor at large, and also Music Review

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Speaker 2: and our six twenty one.

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Speaker 1: The Rule report with MSD Animal Health over then said

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Speaker 1: it's most popular cowcolo Either.

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Speaker 2: As long as you are a Trump hater, you're reporting

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Speaker 2: over the next four years will be one sided. And

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Speaker 2: you wonder why the media is polling low in trust Terry, Terry,

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Speaker 2: I'm not a Trump hater. In fact, I have a

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Speaker 2: ridiculous tolerance. In fact, I'm not gonna lie. I think

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Speaker 2: I would enjoy a drink with Trump would I would

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Speaker 2: actually enjoy Trump's company. I very much enjoy coverage of Trump.

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Speaker 2: He makes me giggle a lot, and I'm hardly ever

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01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 2: offended by him. You know that business about grabbing the

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01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 2: women by the way little you know, we don't need

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Speaker 2: to go there.

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Speaker 3: I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't offended. I was like, ah, okay, weird, but

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Speaker 2: that was about the extents. But I don't ate Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump at all. In fact, one of my greatest disappointments

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01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 2: in my life right now is that I don't personally

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01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 2: know the man, because I think he'd be a hoot

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01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 2: in person. But Terry, you'd have to be stupid to

1654
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Speaker 2: think that what he's doing right now is going well

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01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 2: for him. I mean, you are deluded if you think

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Speaker 2: that this is working out well for him. So I'm

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Speaker 2: just going to put this back on you, Terry. Six

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Speaker 2: twenty four. Rowena Duncan of the Country's with me right now. Hey,

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Speaker 2: ro hey, Heather. Now what's the problem with the local cheesemakers?

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 20: So basically there's some of the supermarket private land label.

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01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 20: So their own brand cheeses are maybe increasing the competition

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Speaker 20: for some of our small producers. So we're talking to

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Speaker 20: brands like Pam's Value Will, We're sign a macro competing

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01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 20: on price, but they're also coming up with gourmet style

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Speaker 20: options too, so things like why Mutter Cheeses.

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Speaker 2: They're out of Gisbon.

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Speaker 20: They've cut back on production of Bri and Cammbierre, just

1669
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 20: saying hey, we're having too much competition in this space,

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Speaker 20: so they're focusing now on the likes of their halloumi,

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01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 20: which has still got quite a bit of demand, white

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Speaker 20: Stone cheese. Out of Omrou, they're shifting more towards food service,

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Speaker 20: so that's your restaurants and bowld quarters, just to reduce

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Speaker 20: their reliance on the supermarkets. Because it's not just the supermarkets.

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Speaker 20: Of course, we've got that new Zealand EU Free Trade Agreement,

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Speaker 20: so cheap European specialty cheeses that are like highly automated,

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Speaker 20: they subsidized, which our farmers are not, and they're really

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Speaker 20: low cost and they are flooding the supermarket. And so

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Speaker 20: i'd seen, you know, one of my favorite cheeses from

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Speaker 20: when I farmed overseas in Wales on the supermarket shelves

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Speaker 20: here in New Zealand. I thought, del I love that cheese.

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Speaker 20: Now I'm actually seeing it from a different perspective and saying, hey,

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Speaker 20: if it's having this bigger impact, probably not a good thing.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting. Yeah, a little bit of a heads up

1685
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 2: to buy local if you care. Now what's going on

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Speaker 2: with the ballot blocks and ANZAC Day.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, so one of the main things for rural New Zealand,

1688
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 20: and we're looking at Anzac Day and the impact of

1689
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Speaker 20: the war obviously had a huge impact in rural New Zealand,

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Speaker 20: as it did right around the country. But we lost

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Speaker 20: a lot of our farmers going overseas, and that's when

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Speaker 20: the women came through like you and I Hea. This

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Speaker 20: saved the day, started working the land. But when our

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Speaker 20: soldiers came back from New Zealand, those who maybe didn't

1695
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Speaker 20: have farms to go back to, we had a balance system.

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Speaker 20: So it was part of the Discharged Soldiers Settlement Act

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Speaker 20: of nineteen ninety five and what it did was try

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Speaker 20: and reintegrate returning soldiers into civilian life. So it had

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Speaker 20: like a lottery style ballot if you want a parcel

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Speaker 20: of land that was carved off some of these big stations.

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Speaker 20: Some of it was Mardy land that was kind of

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Speaker 20: taken a bit under.

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Speaker 2: Force as well.

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Speaker 20: They actually handed out land ise w was not everyone

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Speaker 20: was a farmer. They didn't always know what to do

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Speaker 20: with the land. And one of the most infamous ballot

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Speaker 20: blocks is from the Mungapurua Valley up the Wanganui River.

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Speaker 20: They basically looked at a map, drew some lines without

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Speaker 20: having seen the land, said good luck to you, and

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Speaker 20: that's how the bridge to know where came about. There

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Speaker 20: was a swing bridge. They decided to build a concrete

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Speaker 20: bridge and that was in about nineteen thirty six.

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Speaker 2: But by the end the valley soil was.

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Speaker 20: Really less fertile, and the last settlers walked off their

1715
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Speaker 20: farms in nineteen forty two recognizing it was not farmable land.

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Speaker 20: It was much better in native bush row.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, I appreciate something to think about tomorrow. It's

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Speaker 2: Roe Duncan who's filling in on the country for Jamie MacKaye.

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Speaker 2: Heather Trump would not give you the time of day

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Speaker 2: because you have a face for radio. Well that may

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Speaker 2: be true. I mean true on both cap no true

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Speaker 2: only on one no only true on one count. No

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01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 2: be fair. I may have a face for radio. I'm

1724
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 2: not going to deny that, but I think he would

1725
01:21:58,200 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 2: still give me the time of day. Have you seen

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01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 2: soon z Wils who is his campaign chair. I mean

1727
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 2: she's no oil painting, So be fair about it. Listen,

1728
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 2: very quickly, very very quickly, tell you who's going to

1729
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 2: do well out of this Trump war, this trade war,

1730
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 2: because it's not everybody who's going to go down the gurgler,

1731
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 2: and that's the retailers. Foresyth Bars done some analysis and

1732
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 2: they reckon that if the trade war leads to China

1733
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 2: flooding the rest of the world with its goods, we'll

1734
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 2: obviously get a whole bunch of stuff cheaper than we

1735
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 2: would otherwise, you know, not going to the US. Coming

1736
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 2: to us, we pay less, and the retailers here will

1737
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 2: buy it for less, but they will make that They

1738
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 2: will just pocket the margin and it'll be a bigger margin.

1739
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 2: And of all of the ones who will do well,

1740
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 2: it's the warehouse group apparently, Sam Dicky's with us Next.

1741
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 3: Six eight honing lit everything from SMEs to the big corporates.

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01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicyllen and Mares Insurance and investments,

1743
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 1: grow your wealth, protect your future.

1744
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 3: These talks end be.

1745
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 15: A lot.

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01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about Auckland Airport. Auckland Airports my

1747
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:14,640
Speaker 2: most I'm just gonna tell you about Auckland Airport right now.

1748
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,719
Speaker 2: Why not? So Auckland Airport is really really happy today

1749
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 2: because it got number four in a list for the

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01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 2: best airports in the world. I know what list is that, Well,

1751
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 2: it turns out that it's the Skytracks ranked Airport's list

1752
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 2: based on the numbers broken down by the numbers of

1753
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 2: passengers going through the airports in such a way that

1754
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 2: every single airport seems to get some sort of an award,

1755
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 2: very similar to NCEEA. Everybody passes. So you've got a

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01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 2: separate list for the best airport that that manages to

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01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 2: get seventy plus million passengers through. Best airport ranging between

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01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 2: sixty to seventy million passengers, Best airport fifty to sixty million.

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01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 2: You see where I'm going with this best airport forty

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01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 2: to fifty million. It goes on and so everybody gets

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01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 2: an award, right, So Auckland Airport gets between ten to

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01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 2: twenty million passengers coming through and on that particular list

1763
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,839
Speaker 2: it comes in fourth and I know what you're thinking.

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01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 2: What wonderful airport's come in before Auckland. Well you'll have

1765
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 2: been through them. Number one Helsinki, Vanta, number two Centre, Nagoya,

1766
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 2: number three Houston, Hobby and Douber four Auckland. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think I made my point, didn't I? Twenty three

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Speaker 2: away from seven? Now, Donald Trump has this week been

1769
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 2: attacking the chair of the Federal Reserve, Jerome Powell. Earlier

1770
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 2: this week he said that Powell's termination cannot come soon enough.

1771
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 2: Think he may have called him a major loser at

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Speaker 2: some stage. Then he later said he had no intention

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Speaker 2: of firing Powell, and now he's gone on to attack

1774
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 2: Powell once again for keeping the interest rates too high. Now,

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01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 2: Sam Dicki from Fisher Funds has been watching all of

1776
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 2: this play out, and he's with us, Hello, Sam.

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01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 10: Good leaving Heather.

1778
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 2: This stuff is silly from Trump, right, because having a

1779
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 2: central bank that is independent is crucial, but particularly in

1780
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 2: the US.

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01:24:58,280 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 3: That's right, it is critical.

1782
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:04,480
Speaker 10: So the US Federal Reserve has two primary jobs, maximum

1783
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:07,839
Speaker 10: employment within reason, so without causing the economy to overheat.

1784
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,799
Speaker 10: And the second one is stable prices, so keeping inflation

1785
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 10: around two percent and politicians incentives may run with that,

1786
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,640
Speaker 10: but mostly they'll often run counter that, and things like

1787
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 10: being popular is more important to them. So central bank

1788
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 10: is like pow. He remembers the nineteen seventies. He remembers

1789
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 10: when President Nixon pressured the feed they caved and cut

1790
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 10: interest rates early, and this was the primary cause of

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01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 10: the stagflationing crisis, where growth slowed and inflation shot through

1792
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Speaker 10: the roof.

1793
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 2: So what's Trump playing at? Why is he doing this?

1794
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 3: Excellent question.

1795
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 10: I think it's just a pressure cocko tactic, And it's

1796
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 10: not like he's the first politician globally to try and

1797
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:52,560
Speaker 10: pressure independent central banks and sort of democracies. But he

1798
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 10: wants rate cuts now to boost the economy because he's

1799
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 10: aware that US growth is going to be dragged lower

1800
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 10: due to his own liberation tariffs. He conveniently forgot to

1801
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 10: mention that and the uncertainty of liberation they will cause

1802
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 10: businesses and consumers to sit on their hands and not spin.

1803
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 10: Then as a result, like you said, he called power

1804
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 10: major loser. But he is conveniently ignoring the inflation and

1805
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 10: the impact of his own Liberation day tariffs.

1806
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 2: So I mean it's possible that what he's trying to

1807
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 2: do is put pressure on Powell to do something. But

1808
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 2: it's also possible that he is setting up, at least

1809
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 2: in the public imagination, somebody else, like a scapegoat for

1810
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 2: what's going to happen next.

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Speaker 10: A blame game exactly. He's no stranger to playing those.

1812
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 10: It's also like sort of yelling at a referee to

1813
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 10: sway the game. You know it's wrong, it might work,

1814
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 10: most often it doesn't, and at best you get frowned

1815
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 10: upon by the other mums and dads.

1816
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Speaker 2: Okay, so what does this mean for investors?

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Speaker 10: We found his pain threshold again here that like we

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01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 10: discussed last week, So it wasn't equity markets, it was

1819
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 10: the thirty year bond yields. And remember thirty year bond

1820
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:01,959
Speaker 10: yields reflects several things, long term growth, long term inflation,

1821
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 10: and the risk premium on the US government as a borrower.

1822
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 10: And they spiked higher again as just the width of

1823
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 10: the US FED losing its independence and therefore credibility caused

1824
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 10: those investors to put a higher risk premium on there.

1825
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 10: And remember this hurts main street, So ninety percent of

1826
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 10: mortgages in the US has set off those rates. So

1827
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 10: he blinked and said, I never had the intention of

1828
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 10: firing fed Chairpowe. I want him to be earlier, more

1829
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 10: active on lowering rates and not late. But it's not

1830
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 10: the end of the world if he doesn't cut rates.

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Speaker 10: So a complete backflip.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a weird time, Sam, Thank you so much,

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01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 2: as always, enjoy your long weekend. That's Sam Dickie Offiicier

1834
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 2: Funds right now. It's twenty away from seven. Heather was

1835
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 2: telling you on Tuesday about those twins who speak in unison.

1836
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 2: Remember the twins in Australia who saw the carjacking in

1837
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:52,639
Speaker 2: their seven turned up an interview and they were talking

1838
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 2: at exactly that same time. Well, they have gone I mean,

1839
01:27:55,600 --> 01:28:00,120
Speaker 2: as you would imagine, because it's so weird, they've gone viral.

1840
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 2: Loves them and they've got that thus gone so global

1841
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 2: that even even Jimmy Kimmel Live called them up and

1842
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 2: got them on the show.

1843
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 3: Thank you for making time time for us. I know

1844
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 3: you're very far away, Yes, that's right. First of all,

1845
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:15,639
Speaker 3: how is your mother?

1846
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 6: Our mom is doing great, Yes, and you know what

1847
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:25,560
Speaker 6: she said that she's doing fine because she had seven.

1848
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 2: Kids, random fact, seven kids, two of them are quite

1849
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 2: weird anyway. So they go on to say that they

1850
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 2: are aware that people find them talking in unison irritating,

1851
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 2: but if people find them talking in unison irritating, they

1852
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 2: just have to turn off the TV. And of course

1853
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 2: they both said it at exactly the same time, didn't they.

1854
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 2: It just continued to be weird. Hey, quickly, producer just

1855
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 2: walked and put this in my hand statement from Scott

1856
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 2: Simpson Dun Dun duham Ace and I'm just quoting. ACC

1857
01:28:55,600 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 2: is operationally independent, But after considering the issue this afternoon,

1858
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 2: I stop it. I've spoken to the chief executive and

1859
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 2: I've asked ACC to have another look at the proposed tender.

1860
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:15,719
Speaker 2: So are they operationally independent? Then, Scott, it is important

1861
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 2: that service delivery aligns with the cabinet circular and is

1862
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 2: based on need. Oh, Scott, Scott, Scott, Scott, I mean,

1863
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 2: it's good that you've done the right thing. So if

1864
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,719
Speaker 2: you haven't caught up on this, Scott's just changed his mind.

1865
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 2: He thought it was awesome that ACC five minutes ago.

1866
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,679
Speaker 2: He thought it was awesome that ACC was targeting race

1867
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 2: and not need. And then we gave him a bit

1868
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 2: of a hard time on the show, and we talked

1869
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 2: about it a lot, and now he's changed his mind

1870
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 2: on it. I'm not going to take the credit for

1871
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 2: it because also Newsroom also has been in touch and

1872
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:49,759
Speaker 2: been that's a dot code on his head. And also

1873
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 2: the AX Party has given him obviously a bit of

1874
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 2: grief for it, so he's getting a little bit of

1875
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:55,679
Speaker 2: pressure on it. And Scott, look, I want to say

1876
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 2: thank you for coming around to doing what you said

1877
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 2: you were going to do as a governing party. But

1878
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 2: it's a pity that we have to do this thing

1879
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 2: in public, isn't it. It would be much better if

1880
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 2: it was just dealt with. You know, when you first

1881
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 2: saw it, you just went acc that's not what we

1882
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:11,600
Speaker 2: told you to do, stop it. You just handled it

1883
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 2: like that. That would be a lot better than us

1884
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:15,759
Speaker 2: having to just having this have this out in public.

1885
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:17,759
Speaker 2: But anyway we got there in the end, well done, Scottland.

1886
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:19,759
Speaker 2: We will be keeping an eye on it and making

1887
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 2: sure that you follow through seventeen away from seven.

1888
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 3: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1889
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with the header duplicy Ellen and Lairs,

1890
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 1: Insurance and investments, Grow your wealth, Protect your future.

1891
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 3: News talks that'd be I just quickly.

1892
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 2: We've been getting a lot of texts throughout the last

1893
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 2: week while maybe the last hour or thereabouts about that

1894
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 2: fire on the north shore in Auckland, because of course

1895
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:44,640
Speaker 2: a lot of people listening in Auckland. So I apologize

1896
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 2: to the rest of the country. But if you're on

1897
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 2: the social media, it's worth going to have a look

1898
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 2: at what's going on. It is huge and apparently the

1899
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 2: alerts have already gone out from the emergency management people

1900
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 2: tell it. He's hoping people still pay attention to those alerts,

1901
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 2: but the alerts have gone out saying what shout The

1902
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,320
Speaker 2: fire is huge. It is huge. Fourteen away from seven

1903
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 2: and Indo Brady a UK correspondence with US.

1904
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 7: Hey and de hey, heaven lovely, let's speak to you again.

1905
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 2: So the UK wants a trade deal with the US.

1906
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 3: Is it likely?

1907
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 7: No, in a word, and Rachel Reeves has pretty much

1908
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:17,559
Speaker 7: said that in her first interview. So it's day two

1909
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:20,480
Speaker 7: now of her in Washington, DC. She is the chancellor.

1910
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:23,479
Speaker 7: It is her job to get the economy moving again here.

1911
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 7: Britain absolutely needs a trade deal with the United States,

1912
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 7: but it's not going to happen quickly. And everyone's told

1913
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 7: this before Brexfit. Even Barack Obama came out and said,

1914
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 7: if you leave the European Union, you can go to

1915
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 7: the back of the queue. Everyone wants a trade deal

1916
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:40,599
Speaker 7: with the United States. So here we are, all these

1917
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:43,640
Speaker 7: years later that has come to pass. So Reeves is

1918
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 7: in America basically trying to build relationships, get the kind

1919
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 7: of low down on the Trump administration, puts faces to

1920
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 7: names and vice versa, and just shake some hands. But

1921
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:56,599
Speaker 7: ultimately there is not going to be a trade deal

1922
01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 7: this weekend. I mean Trump is actually traveling to Europe

1923
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 7: anyway for the pub's funeral on Saturday, So it's an

1924
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 7: exercise in bridge building, but the trade deal will not

1925
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 7: be happening quickly.

1926
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 2: Hey did you see that London Marathon has come off Twitter?

1927
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 3: Yes?

1928
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 6: I did.

1929
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Speaker 7: This is very interesting and I'm not in any way surprise.

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Speaker 7: So this is Hugh Bracher who is the head of

1931
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Speaker 7: the London Marathon. His dad founded it in the early eighties,

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Speaker 7: all those years ago, and it is the best day

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Speaker 7: of the year in London. It is one day I've

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Speaker 7: run at ten times and it is the one day

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Speaker 7: that really fills you with hope for humanity. You meet

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Speaker 7: people who have physical disabilities. You have people who are

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Speaker 7: running for loved ones who were ill or have passed away.

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Speaker 7: You meet people who've lost children, and everyone has one

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Speaker 7: common goal to raise as much money as possible, to

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Speaker 7: get across the finishing line as quickly as possible, and

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Speaker 7: just to get the medal. So I'm not in any

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Speaker 7: way surprise Brasier has taken the view his words that

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Speaker 7: Twitter or X or call it what you want has

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Speaker 7: descended into the gutter. So they stopped posting on X

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Speaker 7: and I say, good look to them. I mean, the

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Speaker 7: level of abuse on there.

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Speaker 3: Is just vile.

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Speaker 2: Do you still use it?

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Speaker 7: No, I've come off it, and I think back to

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Speaker 7: I've reposted a couple of things recently, but I think

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Speaker 7: back to when I was badly sick in July twenty

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Speaker 7: one with COVID. I gave one interview on Irish radio

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Speaker 7: urging people to get the vaccine, and I got death threats.

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Speaker 7: I got abused every single day, and it still happens

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Speaker 7: now and it got even worse. So the London Marathon

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Speaker 7: that year was in October, and when I couldn't walk,

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Speaker 7: I was in bed for seven weeks, and when I

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Speaker 7: couldn't walk properly. I said to myself, if I can

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Speaker 7: get over this and get fit and get training again,

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Speaker 7: I'm going to run marathons till I drop. And I

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Speaker 7: booked two in the space of a fortnight. That October.

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Speaker 7: I went to Amsterdam, and then a couple of weeks

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Speaker 7: later I did London and I ran the two of

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Speaker 7: them in under seven hours combined. And the level of

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Speaker 7: abuse on Twitter was just off the scale. People accusing

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Speaker 7: me of having made it up and being a government stooge,

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Speaker 7: and who this guy's being paid by Big Pharma, and

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Speaker 7: then the really kind of nasty personal abuse as well.

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Speaker 7: But then, hey, you know, it's just people who've got

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Speaker 7: way too much time on their hands and hearts full

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Speaker 7: of hate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally just got to come off at a DA

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Speaker 2: thank you so much, have yourself a lovely weekend. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk to you next week. That's end of Brady our

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Speaker 2: UK correspondent. I mean, this is the thing, like sorry,

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Speaker 2: but you know, it's my new thing. This is the

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Speaker 2: thing that I hate on the most at the moment

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Speaker 2: of social media. If you think about how hard that

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Speaker 2: is for grown ups to deal with the crap that

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Speaker 2: you get on Twitter. Imagine how hard it is for

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Speaker 2: kids under sixteen years old when they're already hormonal as

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Speaker 2: all hell. Like they're like more hormonal than a breastfeeding woman.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like there's hormones all over the show. I mean, they

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Speaker 2: are more hormonal than perimenopausal women off the charts. Do

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Speaker 2: we want to be giving them social media new take

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Speaker 2: it away from them? Ban it. Speaking of banning, a

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Speaker 2: little bit more information on the food dies that were

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Speaker 2: banned by RFK, because I'm into this now, I'm quite

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Speaker 2: fascinated by it. So apparently he's not the only one

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Speaker 2: to take action on these food dies. In January, under

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Speaker 2: the Biden administration, the FDA over in the States obviously

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Speaker 2: banned a dye from being used in food. It was

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Speaker 2: called quite originally red dye number three, and red dye

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Speaker 2: number three is the dye that's used to give food

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Speaker 2: a cherry red color. So yeah, anyway that's been used,

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Speaker 2: it's been linked to cancer in animals, and so as

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Speaker 2: a result, it's been banned from being used in food

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Speaker 2: for humans. Also, back in ninety ninety, the same red

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Speaker 2: dye was banned from being used in cosmetics, and that

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Speaker 2: was because of a link, more specifically to thyroid cancer

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Speaker 2: in animals. Now, there's no evidence that red dye number

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Speaker 2: three causes cancer in humans, but there is a rule

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Speaker 2: that if it causes cancer, if it's linked to cancer

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Speaker 2: and animals, you don't put it in food or cosmetics

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Speaker 2: for humans, and blah blah blah, so it's gone. There

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Speaker 2: are studies that suggest that some of these dyes red

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Speaker 2: dye number three, red dye number forty, yellow dye number five,

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Speaker 2: and blah blah blah ah, these very original names, that

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Speaker 2: they are linked to things like hyperactivity and restlessness and

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Speaker 2: some neurological stuff in kiddy. Not all kids will be

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Speaker 2: affected by it, but some kids are sensitive to it,

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Speaker 2: and thus RFK has moved in got rid of them.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, why not? I mean, if it's

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Speaker 2: causing troubles and you don't need it and you can

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Speaker 2: use watermelon juice, then all power to you. Nine away

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Speaker 2: from seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Topsy Alan Drive Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 2: Very quickly, just because I know that you've been dying

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Speaker 2: to know how things are going. News flash, Gwyneth Paltrow's

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Speaker 2: eating bread again, I know to these people who are

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Speaker 2: like I am standing on one leg while brushing my

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Speaker 2: teeth for two minutes. I don't drink any coffee, I

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Speaker 2: don't drink any wine. I don't eat any meat. I

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Speaker 2: just inhale air and you should do it to how

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Speaker 2: annoying She was very annoying. She did a strict paleo diet.

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Speaker 2: She just ate whole foods, high protein like no carbs,

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Speaker 2: macrobiotic nonsense. Anyway, now she's gone full tilt the other way.

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Speaker 2: She's posted pictures of her eating past and burghers and

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Speaker 2: pizzas and just going hell for leather and because she

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Speaker 2: said at the time she was intoxicated by the idea

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Speaker 2: that she could eat very well and sort of control

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Speaker 2: how she felt and make herself feel better. But then

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Speaker 2: she's admitted what happened was I'm a little sick of it,

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Speaker 2: if I'm honest, and getting back into eatings some soured

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Speaker 2: dil bread and some cheese. There I said it, yeah,

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Speaker 2: water surprise that you were a little sick of it.

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Speaker 2: We were sick of hearing about it. So welcome back

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Speaker 2: to normal life, Gwyneth, Right, Okay, hit me with it.

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Speaker 21: Ands what was that by Lord to play us out tonight.

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Speaker 21: This is the brand new one that she dropped three

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Speaker 21: hours ago, presumably the first and a new album.

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 21: She hasn't made an announcement about that you just yet,

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Speaker 21: But and it looks like that whole stunt she did

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Speaker 21: at the part yesterday was actually her filming the music video,

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Speaker 21: because the music video follows a very similar thing where

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Speaker 21: she walks through the streets of New York and then

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Speaker 21: ends up in that part with all these people around

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Speaker 21: seeing the lyrics c Yeah, yeah, very good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 21: The song seems to be up with missing your Ex,

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Speaker 21: so not exactly breaking new ground, but it's a banger,

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Speaker 21: so there you go.

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Speaker 2: So she has had a lot of praise on the

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Speaker 2: internet's about this, but I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: I'm reading this to you because I don't understand what

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Speaker 2: they're saying. Para logic on YouTube, who's just a punter?

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Speaker 2: I don't know who she is and they is I

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Speaker 2: don't know says this MV is almost not an MV.

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Speaker 2: It evokes the kind of vibe that the videos that

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Speaker 2: you and your friends made on vacation, the vloges Quarantine

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Speaker 2: Ramblings from who even knows how many years ago. It

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Speaker 2: feels so anti commercial, it feels so personal, it feels

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Speaker 2: the battal ye's so basic. It feels amazing. That's praise.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they're saying this is a good music video. It

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Speaker 9: feels very authentic.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, and she and you should often.

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Speaker 21: Could have improved the word economy on that post. I

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Speaker 21: think yeap.

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Speaker 2: Maria on Twitter for a decade, the girls have been

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Speaker 2: trying to reference her sound, so she had no choice

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Speaker 2: but to recycle melodrama beats. Oh Lord, the mother, that

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Speaker 2: you are the prodigy, that you are full stop.

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Speaker 9: It sounds like her old stuff.

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Speaker 21: But that's good anyway, because her old stuff was good.

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Speaker 2: I would not have got that out of that okay anyway,

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Speaker 2: So there we go, Lord's back and enjoy it because

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Speaker 2: she's out there representing the house and she's doing well.

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Speaker 2: We grew her, so we're gonna we're gonna glow in that.

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Speaker 2: In forty years, Australia is gonna try and steal her

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Speaker 2: like they did Crowded Ours. We're gonna have fights about it,

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Speaker 2: but we're just gonna love her forever. See you next week.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Enough by.

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Speaker 9: The last.

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Speaker 1: For more from Hither duplessy Alan Drive. Listen live to

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