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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand business. Murray Older was with us out

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Speaker 1: of Australia. Murray, good afternoon, h r in you. Now

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Speaker 1: there's just update us on the gun laws, the situation there.

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Speaker 1: It looks like there are changes coming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right on the back of what happened at

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Speaker 2: bon Day. On Sunday evening, there was a national Cabinet

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Speaker 2: meeting and emergency Cabinet meeting. This was set up during

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Speaker 2: the COVID years. It was consisted of federal representatives in

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Speaker 2: all the states and territories. And yet there's going to

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Speaker 2: be a tightening of gun laws. But you hear Chris

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Speaker 2: Men's there and that clip you played, you think, well,

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Speaker 2: why the hell wasn't this done earlier. The guy who

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Speaker 2: was killed at Bondi on Friday on the Sunday night

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Speaker 2: was the owner of six guns, shotguns and long rifles,

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Speaker 2: long barreled rifles. Now you'd have to ask yourself why

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Speaker 2: on earth would some guy living in suburban Sydney need

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Speaker 2: like a small armory. It's different for country people. They

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Speaker 2: need to go out and shoot feral pigs and feral

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Speaker 2: goats and all the rest of it. They need to

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Speaker 2: put down animals humanely, but there's no reason for a

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Speaker 2: fellow in suburban Sydney to have six very high powered weapons.

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Speaker 2: That's one thing you're looking at. You think, why was

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Speaker 2: it done earlier. They're going to look at tightening who

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Speaker 2: can own guns, so they're gonna limit gun numbers. We

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Speaker 2: think they're going to tighten who can own them. You

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Speaker 2: have to be a citizen to own guns now. But

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Speaker 2: they wouldn't have stopped the young fellow who is in hospital.

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Speaker 2: He was shot and nearly killed alongside his father. He

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Speaker 2: was born here, so heaven only knows what they're going

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Speaker 2: to do. John Howard, the former Prime minister, very interesting today.

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Speaker 2: He came out and said, listen, do not let this

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Speaker 2: government use tighter gun laws as a smoke screen, as

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Speaker 2: a diversion to distract from their lack of action to

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Speaker 2: combat anti Semitism. He was very strong on this, and

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Speaker 2: I mean Albany's under a lot of pressure. Elbow's in

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Speaker 2: a lot of pressure for failing to really curb this.

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Speaker 2: It's the only way to describe it. In anti semitism,

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Speaker 2: fire bomb attacks on homes, on synagogues, and John Howard

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Speaker 2: made the point this can happen Sunday, can happen when

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Speaker 2: the forces of hatred are allowed to spread and grow unchecked.

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Speaker 2: So watch that space as well. Albany's on a bit

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Speaker 2: of pressure. They're going to be scrambling now to get

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Speaker 2: something together.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. A similar thing happened here after we

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Speaker 1: had Mosque shootings Murray, and everyone said, well, you just

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Speaker 1: covering up for the failings of the fact that the

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Speaker 1: guy could get a gun in the first place. You know,

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Speaker 1: he shouldn't have been allowed to, but did and rules

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Speaker 1: were broken. What about the Philippines trip. What's happening here?

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Speaker 1: What do we know?

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Speaker 2: Well, the ABC reported this early today this morning, and

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Speaker 2: now the ABC reporting that it's been confirmed by an

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Speaker 2: anonymous source in the security industry. Yes, father and son

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Speaker 2: went to the Philippines in November. The Australian Federal Police

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Speaker 2: is on the case here. Speculation they flew to Manila

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Speaker 2: and then went down to the southern Philippine and actually

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Speaker 2: had some military training with a group down there that's

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Speaker 2: banned in this country. Apparently. See I know nothing about this,

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Speaker 2: but when ISIS was chased out of the Middle East,

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Speaker 2: apparently they went down and set up a Southeast Asian

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Speaker 2: branch in the Southern Philippines and me into now I

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Speaker 2: think so anyway, that's a line of an active line

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Speaker 2: of inquiry. Now that the Sun, by the way, was

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Speaker 2: interviewed in twenty nineteen by ASIO, which is our domestic

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Speaker 2: security agency, about his connections to members of an ISIS

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Speaker 2: cell that ass knew was operating in Sydney. They busted

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Speaker 2: the cell, but this kid fell through the obviously fell

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Speaker 2: through the cracks and by the way, in the car

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Speaker 2: that father and son left at Bondai before they began

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Speaker 2: their murderous, bloody rampage, police have found ISIS flags and

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Speaker 2: some improvised explosive devices that did not go off. So,

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Speaker 2: you know, on the primer facing, you think, wow, how

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Speaker 2: they held all they you know, I mean, is this

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Speaker 2: not being flagged? And I know it's easy to sit

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Speaker 2: here and criticize and the wake of what happened, but

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Speaker 2: you just think, well, Heaven's above, he's a guy who's

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Speaker 2: been investigated once after the Philippines. What are you going

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Speaker 2: there for with that? Oh? Okay, yeah, what sight's saying? Whatever?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you just you expect more. Perhaps it's unrealistic

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Speaker 2: to expect more, Ryan, but your buddy will do.

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Speaker 1: I think it's absolutely reasonable to expect more, especially when

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Speaker 1: your muddy, your your buddies with a with an isis

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Speaker 1: guy you know who's now in prison? All right, must

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Speaker 1: thanks that that's Murray Old's out of Australia.

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