1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from News Talks at b. 3 00:00:12,813 --> 00:00:14,613 Speaker 2: It's twenty three to ten, which means it's time to 4 00:00:14,613 --> 00:00:18,093 Speaker 2: catch up with our film reviewer, Francisca Rudkin Kilda. 5 00:00:18,333 --> 00:00:20,253 Speaker 3: Good morning, So. 6 00:00:20,333 --> 00:00:22,773 Speaker 2: Two different films to work through this morning. Let's start off. 7 00:00:23,253 --> 00:00:25,693 Speaker 2: But the first one, this one is showing in cinemas 8 00:00:26,173 --> 00:00:29,213 Speaker 2: starring Kate Winslet. Let's have a listen to Lee. 9 00:00:30,413 --> 00:00:37,173 Speaker 3: Question, what are you going to do? Bemeta send medi Europe. 10 00:00:37,333 --> 00:00:40,893 Speaker 3: I just want to do my part. I'm with Vogue magazine. 11 00:00:41,213 --> 00:00:43,053 Speaker 1: No women allowed in the press briefing. You got to 12 00:00:43,053 --> 00:00:43,573 Speaker 1: be kidding me. 13 00:00:43,973 --> 00:00:46,493 Speaker 3: We don't assume women to combat. Well that's a problem 14 00:00:46,693 --> 00:00:49,133 Speaker 3: because I'm here. Why should the man get to the side. 15 00:00:50,733 --> 00:00:53,613 Speaker 2: So that is Lee's starring Kate Winslet. Tell us about 16 00:00:53,613 --> 00:00:55,253 Speaker 2: a Francisca Yes look. 17 00:00:55,293 --> 00:00:57,933 Speaker 3: A couple of weeks ago, I spoke about Social Roman's 18 00:00:57,973 --> 00:01:02,013 Speaker 3: performance in a film called Outrun and mentioned that it's 19 00:01:02,213 --> 00:01:05,413 Speaker 3: very much an award worthy performance. And this is probably 20 00:01:05,493 --> 00:01:12,933 Speaker 3: the second award deservingly award performance that I have seen. 21 00:01:13,533 --> 00:01:16,293 Speaker 3: Heading into next year, Kate Winsord is really fantastic in 22 00:01:16,293 --> 00:01:18,733 Speaker 3: the film. She produced it as well. She spent about 23 00:01:18,853 --> 00:01:21,813 Speaker 3: nine years getting this film onto the big screen. It 24 00:01:21,853 --> 00:01:24,773 Speaker 3: was adapted from a book called The Lives of Lean 25 00:01:24,893 --> 00:01:27,813 Speaker 3: Miller and it was written by Lee's son, Anthony Penrose, 26 00:01:28,533 --> 00:01:32,573 Speaker 3: and she really throws herself into this role. Lean Miller 27 00:01:32,773 --> 00:01:35,293 Speaker 3: was an American model and a fine art photographer. She 28 00:01:35,373 --> 00:01:38,093 Speaker 3: was amused of Man Ray. She taught photography in the 29 00:01:38,173 --> 00:01:40,453 Speaker 3: nineteen thirties. She was in Europe. She was in France 30 00:01:41,093 --> 00:01:42,853 Speaker 3: with a group of friends and like a lot of 31 00:01:42,893 --> 00:01:45,613 Speaker 3: people talking about Hitler, but not really aware of the 32 00:01:45,653 --> 00:01:48,933 Speaker 3: horror that lies ahead. And with this story we very 33 00:01:49,013 --> 00:01:52,333 Speaker 3: much pack up her life during World War Two when 34 00:01:52,453 --> 00:01:54,453 Speaker 3: she wanted to head to the front line and be 35 00:01:54,613 --> 00:01:57,893 Speaker 3: a war photographer. She was working for Vogue magazine at 36 00:01:57,893 --> 00:01:59,613 Speaker 3: the time, but women were not allowed to go to 37 00:01:59,653 --> 00:02:02,093 Speaker 3: the front, but she managed to find a few loopholes 38 00:02:02,173 --> 00:02:08,293 Speaker 3: and really pushed back so of against the rules and 39 00:02:08,333 --> 00:02:11,173 Speaker 3: boundaries that she had done her whole life. And she 40 00:02:12,013 --> 00:02:14,653 Speaker 3: was one of the first photographers to uncover the reality 41 00:02:14,693 --> 00:02:18,573 Speaker 3: of the Holocaust. Documentary documenting the horror that she found 42 00:02:18,653 --> 00:02:24,053 Speaker 3: at concentration camps, which interestingly Vogue, the British Vague refused 43 00:02:24,053 --> 00:02:28,613 Speaker 3: to print because they thought it would be upsetting, but 44 00:02:28,693 --> 00:02:33,453 Speaker 3: the American magazine did pick them up. I'm endlessly fascinated 45 00:02:33,573 --> 00:02:38,933 Speaker 3: by what drives war correspondence, and this film very much 46 00:02:39,013 --> 00:02:42,093 Speaker 3: looks at that through the eyes of Lee. We see 47 00:02:43,333 --> 00:02:45,213 Speaker 3: we learn a lot more about her, We see the 48 00:02:45,213 --> 00:02:48,813 Speaker 3: impact that this experience had on her. We sort of 49 00:02:49,013 --> 00:02:51,613 Speaker 3: learn about how her own personal life and experience has 50 00:02:52,253 --> 00:02:55,493 Speaker 3: contributed to the way she saw the world and therefore 51 00:02:55,533 --> 00:02:58,533 Speaker 3: what she was able to capture through the lens. This 52 00:02:58,613 --> 00:03:02,933 Speaker 3: is a female team is behind this film, and in 53 00:03:02,973 --> 00:03:05,333 Speaker 3: a way, it's a female team giving a sort of 54 00:03:05,373 --> 00:03:08,893 Speaker 3: putting the female game on a female perspective of war. 55 00:03:09,453 --> 00:03:11,293 Speaker 3: And I think this is one of the reasons which 56 00:03:11,493 --> 00:03:15,573 Speaker 3: why her photographs had become this era had become so famous. 57 00:03:16,093 --> 00:03:20,453 Speaker 3: She was often relegated to having to photograph women's experience 58 00:03:20,493 --> 00:03:23,813 Speaker 3: of war and things like that, and had a beautiful 59 00:03:23,853 --> 00:03:26,573 Speaker 3: understanding of what it means to take a photo of 60 00:03:26,613 --> 00:03:29,333 Speaker 3: somebody at a very traumatic time in their life. She 61 00:03:29,533 --> 00:03:37,213 Speaker 3: was a real, no nonsense, practical woman, a trailblazer. She Yeah, 62 00:03:37,293 --> 00:03:41,653 Speaker 3: she's a great character and you can just totally probably 63 00:03:41,693 --> 00:03:45,173 Speaker 3: imagine how Kate Winslet steps into her shoes. The film 64 00:03:45,213 --> 00:03:49,693 Speaker 3: also takes a look though, at the power of photojournalism 65 00:03:49,813 --> 00:03:53,013 Speaker 3: and war correspondence and the importance jack of actually being 66 00:03:53,053 --> 00:03:56,013 Speaker 3: on the ground and witnessing it for yourself, which I 67 00:03:56,093 --> 00:03:58,053 Speaker 3: think in this day and age we talk a lot 68 00:03:58,093 --> 00:04:01,813 Speaker 3: about also the power of photography. So the way this 69 00:04:01,933 --> 00:04:04,733 Speaker 3: story is told is a young a young journalist comes 70 00:04:04,733 --> 00:04:07,333 Speaker 3: to interview her about her career. She's very reluctant to 71 00:04:07,413 --> 00:04:11,413 Speaker 3: talk about and it gets to the point where that 72 00:04:11,733 --> 00:04:14,133 Speaker 3: she slowly opens up more and more and she shows 73 00:04:14,213 --> 00:04:17,813 Speaker 3: him photos of these concentration camps. And these are actually 74 00:04:18,173 --> 00:04:21,813 Speaker 3: wordless scenes, like nothing needs to be said in this 75 00:04:21,933 --> 00:04:25,173 Speaker 3: film at all. It's a little bit like the zone 76 00:04:25,173 --> 00:04:28,413 Speaker 3: of interest. Just the power of the image says it all, 77 00:04:28,493 --> 00:04:31,573 Speaker 3: and so you sort of the film very much kind 78 00:04:31,613 --> 00:04:33,853 Speaker 3: of takes a look at the power of photography and 79 00:04:34,173 --> 00:04:36,413 Speaker 3: what it can say, and really there are no words. 80 00:04:36,613 --> 00:04:39,773 Speaker 3: So yeah, great, great performance by Kate Winslet. Lee is 81 00:04:39,773 --> 00:04:41,853 Speaker 3: going to be definitely a film not to be missed 82 00:04:41,853 --> 00:04:42,213 Speaker 3: this year. 83 00:04:43,053 --> 00:04:45,813 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds amazing. Okay, I'm really looking forward to 84 00:04:45,813 --> 00:04:48,213 Speaker 2: seeing that. Sounds incredible. So that is Lee. It is 85 00:04:48,533 --> 00:04:51,373 Speaker 2: showing in cinemas. Now, your next film is also showing 86 00:04:51,373 --> 00:04:54,093 Speaker 2: in cinemas. This is Venom the Last Dance. 87 00:04:55,053 --> 00:04:58,933 Speaker 3: Who sent that there. 88 00:05:11,733 --> 00:05:12,653 Speaker 1: A freciously? 89 00:05:14,213 --> 00:05:16,693 Speaker 2: I know that is Venom the Last Dance? Tell us 90 00:05:16,733 --> 00:05:19,533 Speaker 2: about it, so so Jack, We're going. 91 00:05:19,333 --> 00:05:24,373 Speaker 3: From this serious to the ridiculous here, but almost intentionally ridiculous. 92 00:05:24,493 --> 00:05:26,893 Speaker 3: Probably one of the best things about Venom The Last Dances. 93 00:05:26,933 --> 00:05:28,413 Speaker 3: It's one hundred and nine minutes long. 94 00:05:29,053 --> 00:05:32,893 Speaker 4: Good on you, Thank you for providing us with a short, 95 00:05:33,533 --> 00:05:37,133 Speaker 4: sort of precise slice of entertainment that's perfect to eat 96 00:05:37,373 --> 00:05:39,533 Speaker 4: some popcorn and then head off and get back. 97 00:05:39,373 --> 00:05:42,413 Speaker 3: To your lives. This is the third and supposedly final 98 00:05:42,493 --> 00:05:45,013 Speaker 3: film in the Venom trilogy. The Venom films are a 99 00:05:45,013 --> 00:05:47,093 Speaker 3: little bit of this that they took it the one 100 00:05:47,093 --> 00:05:50,333 Speaker 3: by surprise. The first one was released in twenty eighteen, 101 00:05:50,373 --> 00:05:53,813 Speaker 3: and maybe because there weren't a lot of other superhero 102 00:05:53,893 --> 00:05:57,933 Speaker 3: films released around that period, it did really, really well. 103 00:05:57,973 --> 00:05:59,653 Speaker 3: It cost about one hundred million to make and it 104 00:05:59,653 --> 00:06:02,253 Speaker 3: grossed about eight hundred and fifty five minute, so it 105 00:06:02,333 --> 00:06:04,893 Speaker 3: was like one of the biggest box office surprise hits 106 00:06:04,893 --> 00:06:06,573 Speaker 3: of the year. It's a since thing. They've gone. It's 107 00:06:06,693 --> 00:06:09,933 Speaker 3: just about a few more and I kind of in 108 00:06:09,973 --> 00:06:12,093 Speaker 3: a way. I quite like the way these films are 109 00:06:12,173 --> 00:06:15,133 Speaker 3: quite bad. They feel very sort of half hearted. They're 110 00:06:15,173 --> 00:06:17,933 Speaker 3: a little bit ridiculous. The plot's really simple but still 111 00:06:17,973 --> 00:06:20,613 Speaker 3: didn't make a huge amount of sense. But Tom Hardy 112 00:06:20,733 --> 00:06:24,213 Speaker 3: just carries this character of this another journalist, a journalist 113 00:06:24,253 --> 00:06:28,373 Speaker 3: who you know, has a this symbiotic relationship with an alien, 114 00:06:28,493 --> 00:06:30,293 Speaker 3: and the two of them are just whacking and off 115 00:06:30,333 --> 00:06:32,893 Speaker 3: they go, and it's sort of a spin off of 116 00:06:32,973 --> 00:06:35,693 Speaker 3: Spider Man, but Spiderban doesn't really exist in this film. 117 00:06:35,773 --> 00:06:37,813 Speaker 3: They crack a few gags which do not work with 118 00:06:37,933 --> 00:06:41,173 Speaker 3: some quite good sort of special effects, and you kind 119 00:06:41,173 --> 00:06:43,773 Speaker 3: of just sit there going on this ride, going okay, 120 00:06:43,933 --> 00:06:46,973 Speaker 3: I kind of I almost admire you guys managing to 121 00:06:47,093 --> 00:06:51,013 Speaker 3: make you know, a success out of this, and good 122 00:06:51,053 --> 00:06:55,093 Speaker 3: on you. But yeah, it probably is time to wrap 123 00:06:55,133 --> 00:06:55,453 Speaker 3: it up. 124 00:06:55,973 --> 00:06:59,533 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, it sounds good. Yeah, but I'm 125 00:06:59,573 --> 00:07:00,893 Speaker 2: not sure that one's for me. I'm going to go 126 00:07:00,933 --> 00:07:02,653 Speaker 2: with Lee. That was your first film, so that is 127 00:07:02,653 --> 00:07:06,373 Speaker 2: our venom. The last dance. Lee was Francesca's first film. 128 00:07:06,413 --> 00:07:08,453 Speaker 2: It's the one with Kate Winslet, and both of those 129 00:07:08,493 --> 00:07:10,693 Speaker 2: films will be up on the news talks. He'd be website. 130 00:07:10,813 --> 00:07:12,813 Speaker 2: The easiest way to find all the stuff from our 131 00:07:12,813 --> 00:07:15,053 Speaker 2: show is to go to the website, find our show 132 00:07:15,093 --> 00:07:17,573 Speaker 2: page and everything goes up there just as soon as 133 00:07:17,573 --> 00:07:20,013 Speaker 2: it's been on the radio. And if you don't really 134 00:07:20,013 --> 00:07:22,053 Speaker 2: feel like going along to the cinema this week, you 135 00:07:22,133 --> 00:07:24,133 Speaker 2: just think for a quiet night at home after the 136 00:07:24,173 --> 00:07:27,453 Speaker 2: All Blacks, maybe after the keywis Tomorrow Night good News 137 00:07:27,533 --> 00:07:29,933 Speaker 2: after Pop This Morning got three new shows to recommend 138 00:07:29,973 --> 00:07:34,733 Speaker 2: you in our screen time segment, including Simone Biles Rising 139 00:07:34,893 --> 00:07:38,933 Speaker 2: Part two. You might remember before the Olympics they put 140 00:07:38,973 --> 00:07:41,053 Speaker 2: out like a couple of weeks before the Olympics, Netflix 141 00:07:41,093 --> 00:07:44,853 Speaker 2: put out a documentary series about Simone Biles about her 142 00:07:44,893 --> 00:07:47,293 Speaker 2: experience at the last Olympics, the way she was trying 143 00:07:47,333 --> 00:07:50,933 Speaker 2: to rebuild her gymnastics career and then compete in the 144 00:07:50,933 --> 00:07:53,253 Speaker 2: Olympics this year. Well, of course there was going to 145 00:07:53,293 --> 00:07:56,133 Speaker 2: be a part two. So now that she has competed 146 00:07:56,133 --> 00:08:01,133 Speaker 2: in those Olympics very very successfully, triumphantly, even they've put 147 00:08:01,133 --> 00:08:02,613 Speaker 2: out the part two. So we'll tell you a bit 148 00:08:02,613 --> 00:08:03,973 Speaker 2: more about that after ten o'clock. 149 00:08:04,653 --> 00:08:07,733 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 150 00:08:07,813 --> 00:08:10,653 Speaker 1: to news Talks at b from nine am Saturday, or 151 00:08:10,733 --> 00:08:12,573 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio