1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: As Jason Wowlls joins us our political editor halidays, Oh, 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: good afternoon, thirteen to five. Racism in the House, Tom 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: McClay yelling get Ricudham and Ender's march. 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: Indeed, it was quite the set of Argiebargi in the 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: House from a number of different areas. I'll get to 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 2: the accusations of racism soon, but there were some other 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: light zingers that came beforehand, such as this excellent Shane 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: exchange between Aischaviril and Shane RETTI have a listen. 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 3: Isn't it a bit rich to accuse others of being 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 3: poor governors when one week after his announcement he's still 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 3: not really clear what the management structure of Defatura really is. 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 4: Mister speaker, what is not rich as Health New Zealand 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 4: because of the deficit that member left. 14 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: Does his private health insurance cover injury sustained while being 15 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: thrown under the bus by the PM. 16 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: I think doctor Shane got the better of doctor Verel there, but. 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: Of course he came back so fast. There's quick reflexes, 18 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 1: quick humor. That's very good, well done. 19 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 2: It is, and you don't often see that from doctor Shane, 20 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: who's usually quite clinical and quite black and white in 21 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: what he says. But I thought it had quite a 22 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: bit you could hear in the background. But the real 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: problem today happened when a Green Party MP of Ricardo 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: Menendez March stood up in the house instead the following. 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 5: Just wanted to race a matter of that it take 26 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 5: personal offense to, just as I finished a matter that 27 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 5: I took personal offense to. Oh yeah, So after the 28 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 5: point of forwarder that I did in relationship to Tamitha 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 5: Paul's question, Todd McLay, the Minister of Trade, through a 30 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 5: bar back saying, quote, as best as I can understand, 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 5: you're not in mexicanal we don't do things like that here. 32 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: So, in case you didn't hear, he said, you're not 33 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: in Mexico now, we don't do that things here. Is 34 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: that what he alleged that Todd McLay said in the house? 35 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: Now Todd McLay, of course being the Trade minister, and 36 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: Riccardo is from Mexico. Well so speaking, Jerry brownly did 37 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: the basically the one thing that he could in this 38 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: instance and asked Todd McLay if he did do it, 39 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: to stand up withdraw and apologize for the comment. So 40 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: the House watched as sheepish Todd McLay stood up and 41 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: addressed his peers. 42 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 5: I withdraw and apologize. 43 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: So you can hear in the backgrounds what I say, 44 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, in fact, Chris Hipkins saying good luck 45 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: getting a trade deal with Mexico. Now on that one. 46 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 2: Now speaking to me to outside the house, Riccardo called 47 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: out McLay further follow. 48 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 5: Trade minister, who represents this in the world stage. I 49 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 5: think those outright racists and cenapholic comments are I'm defending 50 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 5: off a trade minister. 51 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: And it was Listen, it's just plain stupid from McLay. 52 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: I mean there's microphones everywhere. He sits quite close to 53 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: the opposition MP's and of course it's offensive and I 54 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: think that he should have probably, you know, he owes 55 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: Ricardo more than just an apology here. I think he 56 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: should probably go and make amends. But it's just as 57 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: stupid distraction for the government. 58 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: I think, yes, indeed, and that's what the House is 59 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: for a bit of this fun. Speaking of the heightened 60 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: levels of tensions here some real stuff. The Maori Wards 61 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: legislation had its third reading today and how did that 62 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: play out. 63 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: Indeed, that is correct. It is just went through the 64 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: House and that has been scrapped. It's been repealed. The 65 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 2: third reading went through. You can probably imagine how it 66 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: played out in the house today. Here's a bit of it. 67 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 6: This is a shameful day for our parliament, mister Speaker, 68 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 6: as we pass another piece of legislation that discriminates against Marty, 69 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 6: that treats Marty differently to other New Zealanders. 70 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: So I won't go through the legislation now because everybody's 71 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: pretty underclued up on what it is. But there was 72 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: a lot of opposition to it, including of course by 73 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: Tipati Marti. And here's what MP mari Amino Kappaccini said 74 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: about it just moments ago. 75 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 7: The removal of Mardi Wards is merely another open invite 76 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 7: to race this across this Fenua to the open season 77 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 7: against Ewie Mali. This open invite is welcomed by this 78 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 7: government and in fact it reinforces their agenda that would 79 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 7: see our open and upfront extermination as a people and 80 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 7: whatever sense that may be. 81 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: So, you know, extermination is probably a bit extreme here. 82 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: It's not really surprising given the use of inflammatory language 83 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: that's been used by Tipati Marti in the House before. 84 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 2: But the party you know there last week were the 85 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: ones that called for a bit more decorum in the House. 86 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 2: So again I said it was ironic at the time. 87 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: Now one person who was not happy about this was 88 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: National's James Mega who had had a guts full of 89 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:31,559 Speaker 2: the opposition today. 90 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 4: So here's a message to the tens of thousands of individuals, 91 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 4: of children, of young people of workers out there in 92 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 4: New Zealand who identify who fuck Papa Maldi, who don't 93 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 4: look like them, who don't think like them, who don't 94 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 4: share their worldview, and who they think don't count. Well, 95 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 4: those people do count, and we share the view that 96 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 4: their individual views count, whether they share the views of 97 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 4: what he Jackson or to Party Maldi, their views count. 98 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 2: So you can tell how worried the opposition is about 99 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: that certain MP with all the background noise. And I 100 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,559 Speaker 2: tell you what, when James Meagher gets up to speak, 101 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 2: he gets a lot of feedback from the opposition, so 102 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: I would say he's certainly one to watch good stuff. 103 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: Jason. Can I just say that I've found some of 104 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: the stuff that to Party Malory have seen some of 105 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: their rhetoric to be far more aggressive than anything you've 106 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: ever reported on today. 107 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 2: This is unfortunately getting pretty par for the course, Like 108 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: this is not even the first time they've used the 109 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 2: word extermination in the house. 110 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, pot kettle black and I thank you so 111 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: much for your time today, Jason Walls. 112 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 4: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 113 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 4: news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 114 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 4: the podcast on iHeartRadio.