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Speaker 1: Six PR Perth Life presenter Oliver Peterson as with us

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Speaker 1: this afternoon killed Oliver good a jack Let's pick up

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Speaker 1: on the situation in the Middle East. And a senator

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Speaker 1: in Australia has called for his Boller supporters to be

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Speaker 1: criminally charged.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he has, and in fact now the Liberal leader

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Speaker 2: Peter Dutton says that protesters who supported Hezbilla at rallies

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Speaker 2: over the weekend here in Australia should be facing criminal

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Speaker 2: charges or deportation. And he's comparing the move to supporting

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Speaker 2: the likes of Adolf Hitler or Osama bin Laden. So

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Speaker 2: he's backing up the comments made by the Shadow Home

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Speaker 2: Affairs Minister James Patterson, who, as you said, they're indicated

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Speaker 2: that we should be criminally charging these people who were

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Speaker 2: protesting on the weekend, a lot of them in Sydney

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Speaker 2: and Melbourne covering their faces, some of them even holding

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Speaker 2: the pictures of a Hezbollah leader. So it is something

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Speaker 2: that Peter Dutton says is we're moving to a very

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Speaker 2: precarious period now there's outrage in relation to the glorification

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Speaker 2: of a terrorist leader, which surely must be against the

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Speaker 2: Ralian law. And if it's not the Parliament should be

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Speaker 2: recalled to pass the law that prohibits that from happening.

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Speaker 2: The Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong has spoken in the

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Speaker 2: last half hour or so and she's condemned those displays

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Speaker 2: for fueling fear and division, but she hasn't gone a

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Speaker 2: lot further than that at this stage. It only threatens

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Speaker 2: national security and the Criminal Code it's out specific elements

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Speaker 2: that must be been in order to charge an individual

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Speaker 2: with a terrorism offense. So this is a sow point

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Speaker 2: at the moment between relations between the opposition and the

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Speaker 2: federal government in Australia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's pretty pretty amazing to look at

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Speaker 1: a couple of those images from the rallies that we

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Speaker 1: can because you know, obviously we have seen global protests

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Speaker 1: regarding the place of Palestinian people over the last twelve months,

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Speaker 1: but actually seeing his boller flags in Melbourne as well

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Speaker 1: as you know, signs with Hassan Mazrala's face on them,

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Speaker 1: and that sort of took things to another level in

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Speaker 1: the eyes of some.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely one is you know, imagery that I think you

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Speaker 2: probably don't think is going to be in our backyard

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Speaker 2: in Australia. So I think that the you know, the

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Speaker 2: glorification as they say a terrorist leader is something that

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Speaker 2: you want to stamp out as quickly as possible in

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Speaker 2: a wonderful democracy like Australia. So it is certainly dividing

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Speaker 2: opinion to the moment, wishing to hear the government's response

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Speaker 2: ultimately here because they are certainly treading a fine line

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Speaker 2: of trying not to offend anyone.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, this is the thing, especially in Australia because

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Speaker 1: there was a massive Lebanese community, right absolutely.

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Speaker 2: It's huge, and he's right around Australia. But I think

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Speaker 2: you know, even in times of crises, you look for leadership,

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Speaker 2: whether you have to make a difficult decision that is

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Speaker 2: going to obviously upset some What we have with this

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Speaker 2: federal government in Australia at the moment is just the

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Speaker 2: lack of ability to make a qualified decision again over

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Speaker 2: that fear of upsetting somebody, because they're in such a

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Speaker 2: precarious position when we headed the polls in the next

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Speaker 2: few months. They don't know if they're going to get

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Speaker 2: a second term in office, so they don't really want

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Speaker 2: to do anything at the moment.

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Speaker 3: They don't want to upset anybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Now, thousands of Quantus engineers are on strike.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's happened today in Perth and Brisbane and in Sydney.

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Speaker 2: They went off the job for about two hours this morning.

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Speaker 2: They're planning, in fact, stoppages right around the country over

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Speaker 2: the next two weeks. The first was last Thursday, just

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Speaker 2: forty eight hours before the AFL Grand Final. At this stage,

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Speaker 2: though the airline sees it has not affected any body's

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Speaker 2: plans to fly to any capital cities around Australia. We're

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Speaker 2: talking here about engineers who have down tools. They're looking

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Speaker 2: for better paying conditions. They're calling for a five percent

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Speaker 2: pay rise, but a fifteen percent first year payment for

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Speaker 2: up to three and a half years of wage freezers.

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Speaker 2: A couple of unions have come together to demand this.

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Speaker 2: Quantas is currently saying they are prepared to wait it

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Speaker 2: out and they don't think that any customers are going

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Speaker 2: to be impacted by any of these work stoppages.

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Speaker 1: How does that work? How do customers not get impacted

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Speaker 1: by thousands of engineers going on strike? Does that mean

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Speaker 1: that no one's like checking the engines to make sure

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Speaker 1: that all the bolts are there?

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Speaker 2: Well, I know it does make you wonder, doesn't it

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Speaker 2: or perhaps they're just leaving a little bit more time

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Speaker 2: between flights or when they know that they're look at

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Speaker 2: the moment, it probably is manageable because they're two hour

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Speaker 2: stop work meetings, so they're probably you know, changing the

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Speaker 2: schedule ever so slightly to try and get people away

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Speaker 2: a bit earlier, a little bit after, to try and

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Speaker 2: lessen that impact.

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Speaker 3: But I agree with you. It makes you think, Hold

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Speaker 3: on a minute. It is that plane in the sty

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Speaker 3: No one gave it the once over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, golp, Yeah, might just be slightly more nervous than

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Speaker 1: usual boarding a plane that Hey. Police are being banned

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Speaker 1: from all messaging apps on their work phones.

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Speaker 2: This is in New South Wales. Interesting decision being made

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Speaker 2: by the New South Wales Police Force. The only way

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Speaker 2: you can communicate with each other on a work issued

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Speaker 2: phone is through Messenger, which is obviously they've all got iPhones,

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Speaker 2: so through the Apple Ie message you can't send WhatsApp messages,

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Speaker 2: you can't now download Telegram And basically they're saying this

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Speaker 2: is because there was an issue last year where some

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Speaker 2: police had tried to cover up a particular incident. Allegedly

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Speaker 2: a drunk cop crashed in a tunnel in Sydney last

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Speaker 2: year and it was all covered up and has now

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Speaker 2: been before the corruption and I'm commissioned in New South Wales.

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Speaker 3: But some scenics are saying, hold on a minute. There

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Speaker 3: have been some very very damaging leaks, particularly against the

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Speaker 3: Police Commissioner of New South Wales, that this is perhaps

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Speaker 3: her way, Karen Webb, of trying to shut that down

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Speaker 3: so that they can trace every message and every phone

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Speaker 3: call that's been made from a police office's an issued

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Speaker 3: phone to the opposition or a journalist or whatever it

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Speaker 3: might be. Cops are saying simple, they'll just get burner

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Speaker 3: phones because they'll continue to do what they need to do.

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Speaker 2: But it's an interesting move and I want for a

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Speaker 2: lot of other workplaces, even around Australia or New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: might think of doing something similar.

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Speaker 1: Just I feel like, if you've got a work phone,

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Speaker 1: don't do anything on that phone that you wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: happy with your boss knowing about. I reckon those Those

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Speaker 1: are words to live by, are they not? Whether you're

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Speaker 1: a police officer, whether you're a public figure, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Just don't search anything, don't text anything, don't photograph anything

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly, because you try and use that work

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Speaker 2: email address to maybe get something that you thought if

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Speaker 2: I have my signature there it might help me out well,

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Speaker 2: be prepared that it could come back on the backside.

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Speaker 1: The truth comes out, Oliver, the truth comes out. I

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Speaker 1: thought it was an impressive looking at email, sidmit, So

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Speaker 1: thank you very much for your time. I appreciate it

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Speaker 1: as always, Oliver Peterson. There from six PR Perth Lives

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