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Speaker 2: Hell are you great, New Zealanders? Welcome to the Matt

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Speaker 2: Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Full Show podcast for the

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Speaker 2: fifth of November. Remember remember the fifth of November, the

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Speaker 2: gunpowder trees and the plot. I can see no reason

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Speaker 2: why the gunpowder trees and should ever be forgot. We

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Speaker 2: do lots of chat on fireworks today. It's pretty heated.

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Speaker 2: Half the people hated you, half the people hated me.

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Speaker 3: Did any of them love us? I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I was a very heated debate.

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Speaker 2: It was a very very heated debate, but a very

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Speaker 2: very fun debate. Also cats, boy boy, that's right, it

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Speaker 2: got into cats and dogs. It's only been one month

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Speaker 2: and we're already into cats and dogs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Diddy, old registration of cats.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And also the Melbourne Cup. A lot of feel

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Speaker 2: goods around the Melbourne Cup. And we have the top

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Speaker 2: five Quincy Jones songs because he passed away at ninety one.

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Speaker 2: Absolute genius in my mind. Quincy Jones. The stuff he

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Speaker 2: did with Michael Jackson phenomenal. But he had a career

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Speaker 2: a long time before that. That is a musician in

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Speaker 2: his own right, produced so many people, television shows, movie themes.

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Speaker 2: A great man. So we count down has Top five

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Speaker 2: so that you go give him a taste of the

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Speaker 2: keiw we met in Tyler podcast. All right, subscribe, Okay,

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Speaker 2: seem busy talking.

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Speaker 4: With you all afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons New for twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four news Talk zib.

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Speaker 3: A very good afternoonsue. Happy Tuesday. You're listening to Madame

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Speaker 3: Tyler with you until four pm. Great to have your

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Speaker 3: company as always. Melbourne Cup Day, Matt's excited.

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Speaker 2: Melbourne Cup Day, Guy Fawks is a huge day, very

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Speaker 2: very exciting, lot to be excited about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's what we're gonna have a chat about

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Speaker 3: after three o'clock. Not the Guy Fawks that's coming very soon,

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Speaker 3: but we want to have a chat about Melbourne Cup.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It has been long promoted as the race that stops

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Speaker 3: a nation, if not two nations. That's been disputed now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people are saying it doesn't even stop any nations.

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Speaker 2: I say it probably stops Australia. It stops me. I'll

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Speaker 2: watch it it stops me. But I'm not a nation.

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Speaker 3: And what what's the horse that you've got? What did

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Speaker 3: you pull out of the office, sweet state?

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Speaker 2: Well, I pulled out of the office sweetstreak, mostly cloudy,

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Speaker 2: paying one hundred and one. You know I've got another.

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Speaker 2: I've got another, a few bets on. You know, I'm

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Speaker 2: going for sharp and smart, the Kiwi horse in there.

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Speaker 3: And what's that pain?

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Speaker 2: Well, it was painfully. I think it's down a little

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Speaker 2: bit now, so I think I'm looking at some older

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Speaker 2: odds here, but I'll get up to date with that.

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Speaker 3: You're going to lose some money today.

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Speaker 2: But I'm always about betting on the New Zealand horses,

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Speaker 2: which is probably just sort of blind patriotism, right, But

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Speaker 2: if you bet on a New Zealand horse and it wins,

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Speaker 2: double joy. If a New Zealand horse wins and you

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Speaker 2: a little bit like a trader. Yeah, I feel like

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Speaker 2: you haven't supported it, you haven't given a taste the

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Speaker 3: We've had some great success with ki horses over at

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Speaker 3: the Mountain Cup far Lap. Of course, people would remember

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's look, we used to be the nation

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Speaker 2: from Canterbury, yes, a cup and show days big for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well it is big for christ Chooch, but that's

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Speaker 2: Well well, look, getting down there and getting dressed up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's after three o'clock. Are we still excited for

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Speaker 3: This is a big one and there are many landowners

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Speaker 3: let's have a chat about fireworks.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Remember remember the fifth of November, gunpowder treason

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Speaker 2: and plot. I see no reason why gunpowder treason should

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Speaker 3: Very good, you practice that nicely done well. Look, as

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Speaker 3: we know, every year the SBCA warns, what is an

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Speaker 3: exciting night for us is a terrifying evening for animals.

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Speaker 3: Fire an emergency. New Zealand repeatedly urges people to think

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Speaker 3: about three hundred new claims a year for fireworks related injuries,

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Speaker 3: and data shows think about the children. Data shows children

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Speaker 3: questions are should fireworks be banned? And I've got to

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Speaker 3: I'm all for banning it. And it got to that

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Speaker 2: Fun Adams, anti fun Adams.

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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you why why Because they started off

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Speaker 3: at five o'clock the sun still out. What's the point?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you spent good money on those five weeks

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Speaker 3: and you're sitting the off you can't even see them.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a problem with the time. That guy Fawkes's

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand, November five, it's you know, it takes

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Speaker 2: it takes a while for it to get dark enough

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so maybe we changed the date.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if we move it around daylight saving might be better.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, but Pepper, our dog Papper, she's a greyhound cross.

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Speaker 3: weeks never been a problem. Last night, she flipped out completely.

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Speaker 3: The eyes went wide. She started running around the lounge,

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Speaker 3: Then she ended up in the corner shaking like a leaf.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen you say shut down the fun of

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Speaker 2: Did your dog get damaged injured? Or is your dogs

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Speaker 2: just a little bit scared. Dogs are going to get scared.

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Speaker 2: People are going to get scared. That happens in life.

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Speaker 2: Dogs scare other people. Dogs bark, Dogs get scared by

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Speaker 2: thunder and lightning. Are you going to shut down the weather?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Please. I have two loves of my life, Mave and

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Speaker 3: Pepper in the household, and you know, if they're not

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Speaker 3: liking it, maybe didn't like it either, So yeah, shut

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Speaker 3: it down. I'm going to protect those people I love.

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Speaker 2: I really enjoy fireworks. I think they're fun, and I

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Speaker 2: like the tradition of guy fawks. I think it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: It's four hundred and nineteen years old. We shut down

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Speaker 2: much fun's been had with fireworks over the years, and

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Speaker 2: I think it's a great way to teach kids safety.

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Speaker 2: Like if you have a backyard fireworks display with your

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Speaker 2: ways that you can teach kids the risks about certain things.

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Speaker 2: If we completely shut down anything because there's a certain

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Speaker 2: People come weak, and people become scared, and people become

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Speaker 2: y're not competent in individuals going forward.

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Speaker 3: Very well argued, and I imagine your parents did that

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Speaker 3: with you when you had the backyard fireworks. How were

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Speaker 2: I was an absolute idiot with the years exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: point proven, Yeah, I absolutely was. But you can't look

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Speaker 2: I'm an absolute idiot, and you can't ban things just

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Speaker 2: And so if you're if you're rule of how you

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Speaker 2: absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go further. And here's what I genuinely

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Speaker 3: think about it is, I'm okay with the private sale

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Speaker 3: of fireworks if they're only set off for three or

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Speaker 3: four days a year. That is my problem with it.

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Speaker 3: That now that you can buy them off the side

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Speaker 3: If I knew when, I could get my dog in

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Speaker 3: that she's not going to flip out. I could do

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Speaker 2: So you're anti fireworks being let off New Year's yep,

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Speaker 2: dwale yep matadiki.

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Speaker 3: Oh Dwali's fine because that's a public fireworks display, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Well, not always. And also, can I just say another thing,

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Speaker 2: There is nothing more boring in this world than a

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Speaker 2: public fireworks display. Like going somewhere to watch someone else

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Speaker 2: let off fireworks. That is totally not the point. I also,

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Speaker 2: on another level, I love community things. I love when

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Speaker 2: the city and you see everyone letting off the fireworks

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Speaker 2: at the same time. That makes me tear up. Everyone's

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Speaker 2: doing stuff at the same time. I get very emotional

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Speaker 2: about these community things. I think we shut down things

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Speaker 2: too quickly because everyone can find a reason, and the

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Speaker 2: legitimate reasons. People have legitimate reasons that it scares animals,

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Speaker 2: that's legitimate. There's legitimate concerns about fire and such. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: But I think a world without risk is not a

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Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty what do you think

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Speaker 3: anti fun Adams or pyro Heath get on the phone.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety two is the text number. It's a quarter

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. That Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons you

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four used talksa'd be.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon June seventeen past one. We're talking about

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Speaker 3: guy fawks. It is today fireworks bang boom. And I

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Speaker 3: mentioned before that for the first time I discovered how

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Speaker 3: obnoxious and violent and disgraceful fireworks are, backyard fireworks, and

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Speaker 3: that my poor dog Pepper, I'm going to throw her

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Speaker 3: into this as well. She has been trained to deal

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Speaker 3: with fireworks to a limited extent. Last night couldn't handle it.

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Speaker 2: So you finally have reached the age where you don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but your dog if your dog's inside, your dog

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Speaker 2: Your dog can be scared by someone knocking on the door.

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Speaker 2: That's just the way life is. You can't protect animals,

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Speaker 2: I mean animals that are outside. Maybe that's a slightly

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Speaker 5: And I look at it this way. How many people

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Speaker 5: Are there more dangerous things that are happening? How many

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Speaker 5: Maybe maybe a limit, and say, maybe it's a week currently.

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Speaker 2: Stuart, Currently Saturday the second November to Tuesday, the fifth

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Speaker 5: Sure here, yeah, I guess that. But like anything, we

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Speaker 5: there's that anyone over and above there can either be

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Speaker 7: Still?

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Speaker 5: Do the fireworks just have a limit?

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Speaker 3: So just let's say that your neighbor loves a bullhorn.

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Speaker 3: I know you're celebrating bullhorn day. Don't like it.

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Speaker 2: There's noise control. You can make a complaint about noise control,

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Speaker 3: Well, if that's true. Love to hear from a noise

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Speaker 3: control officer. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 8: Deposits, which I've long argued for a way too high

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon. We're talking about fireworks and the sale

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Speaker 3: of fireworks and letting them off in your own backyard.

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Speaker 3: Pete where do you sit on this one?

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Speaker 6: Again there, gentlemen, there's so much thing getting ban this

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Speaker 6: and ban that. I don't want to ban it totally,

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Speaker 6: but I reckon what should happen. The government should make

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Speaker 6: now you can buy you five weeks four days of

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Speaker 6: the people you've got ten days or forteen days whatever

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Speaker 6: like few Year's Eve or Christmas Day or whatever, and

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Speaker 6: maybe public gatherings that I'm from your plymouth here quite

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Speaker 6: often we have it at the bowl of Brooklyn's, the

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Speaker 6: but have it there and then that's it's bad because

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Speaker 6: I'm as far as I'm seeing, you've got people with

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Speaker 6: same they you get pretty dry here in New Zealand.

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Speaker 6: Two and sometimes in the summertime. So then the fire

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Speaker 6: going to be ten days whatever. That's so that we

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Speaker 6: see that time period. The government decides to see that

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Speaker 6: you crop fire weeks off and that's it all over.

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Speaker 6: And then that way people I'm hearing myself quite often

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Speaker 6: and the ways far as I can seeing those people

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Speaker 6: So if you have that period that I seid before,

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Speaker 6: I reckon that's fair enough. You're not banning it. You

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Speaker 6: and win and that's it and it's all over over.

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Speaker 3: Yep, Pete.

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Speaker 2: What would be the punishment in your eyes? What do

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Speaker 2: you think the punishment should be for letting off fireworks

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Speaker 2: not in those designated times.

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Speaker 6: I reckon what it should be. I know what it

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Speaker 6: will be whatever the government comes up with us. Like

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Speaker 6: there's feeding tickets and stuff like that in Australia get

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Speaker 6: hard and people I don't like dobbing people, but there's

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Speaker 6: the law that is consideration for other people and those

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Speaker 2: I'm sort of two minds about this. I guess I

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Speaker 2: I really really like about fireworks, right, and I absolutely

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Speaker 2: hate a public fireworks display. I think there's nothing more boring.

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Speaker 2: And I think the whole point of a fireworks is

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Speaker 2: the wonder you see in kid's eyes when you're letting

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Speaker 2: about it. Not a Catherine Wheel, I'd ban Catherine Wheels.

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Speaker 2: They're just screaming circles of hell. But all the other fireworks,

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Speaker 2: you're teaching kids supervised risk and danger, and I think

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Speaker 2: that is the most important thing. So sure, I'm not

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Speaker 2: and I'd actually probably allow them all year because I'd

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Speaker 3: I think I could be sensible by most people.

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Speaker 2: I just think we shouldn't ban things because some people

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Speaker 3: I think Kirston agrees with you. Kirsten, Hello there, Hello,

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Speaker 10: I love fireworks, and I am closer to sixty day lecty.

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Speaker 10: We have had firewoops in their backyards to the last

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Speaker 10: They either before or after life walks and the kids here,

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Speaker 10: and they came as teenagers that came with their own children.

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Speaker 10: It's just such a gathering time. And I totally agree

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Speaker 10: about the supervision. You're teaching your children, hopefully to actually

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Speaker 10: treat them with respects, you know, standard, and I know

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Speaker 10: they did dumb things afterwards because they're boys.

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Speaker 3: Do you think it's changed And I don't. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: no other kid can have going forward. But I think

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Speaker 3: it's changed somewhat in the way that we deal with

435
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Speaker 3: fireworks and the level of firework that is sold now,

436
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Speaker 3: that feels to me like it's changed a bit. Do

437
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Speaker 3: you agree with that they're.

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Speaker 10: Really noisier Because I go to the first first year,

439
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Speaker 10: I didn't realize it was a drug shop. I ended

440
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Speaker 10: up the drug shop with the kids that I'm looking

441
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Speaker 10: at all the fireworks are now looking at all the

442
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Speaker 10: drug paraphernalia and the outside.

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Speaker 12: Of the walls.

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Speaker 10: I was totally oblivious. So they sell them big grunted

445
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Speaker 10: ones and they are noisy, but they're actually no more dangerous.

446
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Speaker 10: They're just a lot. Is just what we all like

447
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Speaker 10: is a family in a community. But I don't think

448
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Speaker 10: we willed has change.

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Speaker 13: People have got pushous yep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you certainly don't want to quiet firework. What's

451
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Speaker 2: the point in that?

452
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Speaker 3: What about sparklers? What about a nice sparkler? The kids

453
00:21:19,893 --> 00:21:22,213
Speaker 3: love a sparkler. I don't because they are pretty boring.

454
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Speaker 2: Oh no, I've got a lot of times for sparklers.

455
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Speaker 2: You give the kids a sparkler, Well, the fireworks going off,

456
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Speaker 2: that's something for the kids to do.

457
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Speaker 1: That that.

458
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Speaker 2: I used to love Sparklet's trying to write my name

459
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Speaker 2: in them when I was a kid. Fantastic, the big

460
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Speaker 2: long ones. They're brilliant and they're also great for lighting

461
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Speaker 2: the fireworks.

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. How do you

463
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Speaker 3: feel about fireworks? Private fireworks sales in twenty twenty four

464
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Speaker 3: or just quickly. Skyrockets they got banned I think in

465
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Speaker 3: the early nineties. Yeah, was that the right thing to do?

466
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Speaker 3: Oh No, I loved skyrockets. You can't get the height

467
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Speaker 3: with the fireworks. Now you get those, you get you know,

468
00:21:54,333 --> 00:21:58,693
Speaker 3: every restriction has its has its unforeseen circumstances.

469
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Speaker 2: So when you got rid of skyrockets, they were fantastic.

470
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Speaker 2: They gave everyone a thrill, They went a long way brilliant.

471
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Speaker 2: So now everyone's moved to fireworks that have fires, eight

472
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Speaker 2: flaming balls and reports. Yeah, so instead of a now

473
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Speaker 2: I've got a you know, it's much more full on.

474
00:22:19,093 --> 00:22:22,013
Speaker 2: They're a lot louder there. There's just a lot more

475
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Speaker 2: more explosions now than there were. So, I don't know,

476
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Speaker 2: I loved skyrockets. Bring them back.

477
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Speaker 3: Quick text to the headlines. Congratulations. Finally, someone on radio

478
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Speaker 3: said it, there is nothing more boring than a public

479
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Speaker 3: filence display.

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Speaker 2: That coming to the discussion when people say people can

481
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Speaker 2: go to public fireworks displays that that I'm not open

482
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Speaker 2: to that. That's not what guy falks is about. It's

483
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Speaker 2: not standing around like a cattle and a pen watching

484
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Speaker 2: other people have fun letting off fireworks. It's not what

485
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Speaker 2: it's about.

486
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Speaker 3: It is twenty eight to two.

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Speaker 14: US talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis, it's

488
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Speaker 14: no trouble with a blue bubble. The government's introduce requirements

489
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Speaker 14: to make public agencies pay invoices within five business days.

490
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Speaker 14: The thirty three agencies send and receive one point six

491
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Speaker 14: million invoices annually. Health New Zealand has six hundred and

492
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Speaker 14: fifty six vacancies in mental health and addiction roles across

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Speaker 14: the country. It's including three hundred and eighty registered nurses

494
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Speaker 14: and one hundred and thirty psychiatrists Inland. Revenue will no

495
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Speaker 14: longer provide hundreds of thousands of Kiwi's personal information to

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Speaker 14: social media sites for targeted ads. Government workers could soon

497
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Speaker 14: be allowed to take ubers on the taxpayer dollar rather

498
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Speaker 14: than more expensive taxis. Labor says it supports unions who

499
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Speaker 14: are challenging charter school legislation, saying it discriminates against unions.

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Speaker 14: The South Canterbury Chamber of Commerce and support agencies are

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Speaker 14: hosting an employment fair in Temaru today. It's for six

502
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Speaker 14: hundred people about to be out of a job when

503
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Speaker 14: the Smithfield Freezing Works closes and anyone else needing work,

504
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Speaker 14: zespre says Kiwi fruit export artlook is strong, but some

505
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Speaker 14: gold we'll face competition. You can read more at Ends

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Speaker 14: and Herald Premium. Now back to matte Than Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 4: Remember remember the fifth of November, the gunpowder treason and plot.

508
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Speaker 4: I know of no reason why the gunpowder treason should

509
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Speaker 4: ever be forgotten.

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Speaker 3: So that is what we're talking about. Old guy fawks.

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Speaker 3: Remember remember the fifth of November.

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Speaker 2: Viva Indea.

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Speaker 3: Great movie, and it was a great movie, but we

514
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Speaker 3: have been chatting about it. It pops up every year.

515
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Speaker 3: That does there need to be some regulations around the

516
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Speaker 3: sale of private fireworks? The fireworks been let off in

517
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Speaker 3: people's backyards. I say, yes, there are.

518
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Speaker 2: There are regulations, more regulations, more regulation, more regulation. You

519
00:24:51,693 --> 00:24:55,213
Speaker 2: always want more regulations. Already there's already draconian regulations on it.

520
00:24:55,213 --> 00:24:57,853
Speaker 2: They're already trying to stifle something. I mean, it's been

521
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Speaker 2: going for one hundred and fifty two, nine hundred and

522
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Speaker 2: sixty six days. Gyefawks, Yeah, has been celebrated, but you

523
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Speaker 2: just want to shut it down now because your dog

524
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Speaker 2: got little a bit scared.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of a weird tradition though, isn't it.

526
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but weird traditions. Traditions don't become as popular for

527
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Speaker 2: as long as they are unless they're weird. They're weird,

528
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Speaker 2: of course it's weird, but for some reason attracted interest

529
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Speaker 2: from people, and it continued on since sixteen oh five,

530
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Speaker 2: so there was something about it. And you make up

531
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Speaker 2: another tradition. See if you can make one up today

532
00:25:30,813 --> 00:25:31,893
Speaker 2: that's as successful as that.

533
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Speaker 3: Probably not do the UK lead off private fire weeks.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they do. They call it bonfire night

535
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Speaker 3: over there. They just get a big bonfire.

536
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Speaker 2: Don't let them off anytime you want. In the UK

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Speaker 2: you can buy a massive one. I've let off some

538
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Speaker 2: big fireweks, just crazy times to the U when I

539
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Speaker 2: was living in the UK.

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Speaker 3: Assie banned them. Assi don't like fire.

541
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Speaker 2: That's fair enough.

542
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Speaker 3: A tinder box. That's on the extreme.

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Speaker 2: End of things. Absolutely, Australia is basically on fire all

544
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Speaker 2: the time.

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Speaker 3: Eighty do.

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Speaker 2: Let's not shut things down just because Australia is a

547
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Speaker 2: crazy place.

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Speaker 3: Truly, How are you good?

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Speaker 15: Thank you? Number one Eye Walks was started off five

550
00:26:10,933 --> 00:26:16,653
Speaker 15: acts of violence and everyone is against violence now and

551
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Speaker 15: telling people or asking people is not going to do

552
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Speaker 15: any difference, because people will do what they want when

553
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Speaker 15: they want, and they don't care. I had fireworks around

554
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Speaker 15: my place two months ago. In some years, the explosions

555
00:26:34,933 --> 00:26:37,373
Speaker 15: have been so much that I've actually had my whole

556
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Speaker 15: house shaking, and I think that's just I'd rather know

557
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Speaker 15: one of you fellas don't like that, but they should

558
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Speaker 15: have just one night a year that they go there,

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Speaker 15: they buy their fireworks, let them off, and that's the

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Speaker 15: end of it. And I'm like one of you fellas

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Speaker 15: that's got a dog called Pepper. I've got a little

562
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Speaker 15: whip across dog called Luna, which I got out of

563
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Speaker 15: the pound and she's absolutely pet for.

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Speaker 2: As luninous thing. Right now, Julie is luning with you

565
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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 15: No issues in the out of the room, get around

567
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Speaker 15: the radio.

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Speaker 2: Love a dog like a dog if a dog can hear.

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Speaker 3: Luna is a beautiful name as well. But yeah, I

570
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Speaker 3: mean there again, that's my argument. And I know, look

571
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Speaker 3: a lot. I'm getting a lot of abuse via techs,

572
00:27:23,733 --> 00:27:25,733
Speaker 3: and that's fair enough that I want to shut down

573
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Speaker 3: fun and ban everything and regulate everything. But I think

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Speaker 3: just to help those people who were not courteous to

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Speaker 3: your neighbor to help them do the right thing is

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Speaker 3: just having set days where you can set off those

577
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Speaker 3: fireworks so everybody that doesn't like it, like me, can

578
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Speaker 3: prepare for it. I'm okay with it. I have to

579
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Speaker 3: be okay with that. But as long as I can

580
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Speaker 3: prepare for it, well you'm okay with that.

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Speaker 2: Well you're in the window now. So you're complaining about

582
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Speaker 2: them being let off yesterday, Tyler. Yeah, yes, the day

583
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Speaker 2: before guy fawks. So I wasn't ready at five pm

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Speaker 2: to be so sorry you go, Julie.

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Speaker 15: Sorry. Another thing I was going to say too is

586
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Speaker 15: I lose to work at an animal shelter and ambulance

587
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Speaker 15: is a big guy going out to dogs with bleeding

588
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Speaker 15: feet that they run for miles and miles and miles

589
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Speaker 15: and rip their pads open and catch stuck under culvert

590
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Speaker 15: to be terrified and you know, I mean, you can't

591
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Speaker 15: tell you can't tell a pet that you know nothing's

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Speaker 15: going to hurt them. And I always say that I'd

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Speaker 15: rather have a dog wet or something else on the

594
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Speaker 15: floor then letting it out and it would go and

595
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Speaker 15: you know it might get killed the water.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so much for your call. I've got

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Speaker 2: a couple of points, and that firstly, it did start

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Speaker 2: with an act of violence. So did Easter? Yeah, would

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Speaker 2: you cancel its Easter just because it's a tradition that

600
00:28:51,533 --> 00:28:54,173
Speaker 2: started out of an act of violence into and Christmas

601
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Speaker 2: as well, to less extend, even though Christmas cellar upates

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Speaker 2: the birth of Jesus, and.

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Speaker 3: To be fair, we celebrate christ he failed. We celebrate

604
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Speaker 3: because he failed. That was the whole point, right, is

605
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Speaker 3: that we're not celebrating that he tried to blow up

606
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Speaker 3: the houses of Parliament. We break that he failed.

607
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Speaker 2: What happened to Guy Fawks is not good. You know

608
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Speaker 2: what happened to the guy, don't you? He got ripped

609
00:29:13,133 --> 00:29:16,333
Speaker 2: in part he did not have a good end Guy Falks.

610
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Speaker 2: That was definitely what happened to him was definitely an

611
00:29:17,973 --> 00:29:20,173
Speaker 2: active violence, even if he didn't manage to pull off

612
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Speaker 2: his gunpowder, treason and plot. But also when it comes

613
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Speaker 2: to animals, I'm a dog lover. I've got my dog colin.

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Speaker 2: Last night, he was quite interested in the fireworks. But

615
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Speaker 2: nature's a scary place and animals out there in the

616
00:29:33,573 --> 00:29:35,613
Speaker 2: real world have got a lot things, a lot more

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Speaker 2: to worry about than fireworks, including if your other animals

618
00:29:40,093 --> 00:29:43,133
Speaker 2: you might have to worry about dogs. Dogs are terrifying

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Speaker 2: and dogs terrify humans as well, So I'm a human

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Speaker 2: first approach to things. And if fireworks can bring families together,

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Speaker 2: and it's so hard to bring families together. Now, anyone

622
00:29:52,373 --> 00:29:54,653
Speaker 2: with teenage kids or younger will know how hard it

623
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Speaker 2: is to get them into a room or get them

624
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Speaker 2: to do something together. If you can get kids into

625
00:29:58,373 --> 00:30:01,693
Speaker 2: the backyard with you to let off fireworks, supervite by parents,

626
00:30:01,733 --> 00:30:05,053
Speaker 2: so you can show parents being responsible and careful and

627
00:30:05,253 --> 00:30:09,333
Speaker 2: showing the best safety texts techniques around something dangerous while

628
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Speaker 2: there's wonder in the kid's eyes. Surely that is a

629
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Speaker 2: fantastic thing that we need to hold on to. And

630
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Speaker 2: when you talk about banning these things, it doesn't stop.

631
00:30:17,133 --> 00:30:19,333
Speaker 2: So you're happy for these these for three days. But

632
00:30:19,333 --> 00:30:21,213
Speaker 2: people don't want to stop with that. They'll go, oh, yeah,

633
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Speaker 2: we've got, we've only got we're only available to buy

634
00:30:23,093 --> 00:30:25,933
Speaker 2: them between the second and the fifth. Okay, but people

635
00:30:25,933 --> 00:30:28,093
Speaker 2: don't want to stop. People will keep going and going

636
00:30:28,133 --> 00:30:31,253
Speaker 2: and going until these things are banned and we lose

637
00:30:31,293 --> 00:30:33,813
Speaker 2: these traditions and they never come back, and no one's

638
00:30:33,853 --> 00:30:35,893
Speaker 2: got anything else. To replace it. So kids just sit

639
00:30:35,973 --> 00:30:38,453
Speaker 2: up in their room playing video games, they're on social media,

640
00:30:38,493 --> 00:30:40,293
Speaker 2: they don't spend any time with the family because there's

641
00:30:40,453 --> 00:30:44,013
Speaker 2: nothing as exciting as fireworks to replace it, and society

642
00:30:44,173 --> 00:30:46,893
Speaker 2: just dives off a cliff into isolation and despair.

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Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. There you go,

644
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Speaker 3: kids going blow blow some things up in the backyard.

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Speaker 3: It's good for you. Beck in the mo nine text

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Speaker 3: numb be listening to Matt and Tyler.

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Speaker 4: New Home of Afternoon to Adams Afternoon.

648
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Speaker 3: Talks very young back the ant man. We're talking about

649
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Speaker 3: five weeks on. You're okay with.

650
00:31:16,733 --> 00:31:20,053
Speaker 4: Okay with them by ground with them at.

651
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Speaker 9: A thing for me is that.

652
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Speaker 6: If you come up with a reasonable aside of all

653
00:31:30,213 --> 00:31:31,413
Speaker 6: about it, okay, cool.

654
00:31:31,293 --> 00:31:33,173
Speaker 4: But it's much.

655
00:31:33,053 --> 00:31:38,213
Speaker 16: As and I stay there wondered about it, and I'm

656
00:31:38,253 --> 00:31:39,213
Speaker 16: a pet under myself.

657
00:31:39,373 --> 00:31:41,733
Speaker 4: No, but nothing is more propreaded. People think of five.

658
00:31:41,573 --> 00:31:45,693
Speaker 3: Weeks tread its fronting in your pitch, looking at and

659
00:31:45,813 --> 00:31:48,453
Speaker 3: you're inating what your neighbor's cat.

660
00:31:48,693 --> 00:31:51,093
Speaker 4: Take a cat and you're good.

661
00:31:51,453 --> 00:31:54,013
Speaker 13: You're dugarden and you can't do a thing about it.

662
00:31:54,413 --> 00:31:58,933
Speaker 3: And you can argue with that that's a very fair paste.

663
00:31:58,093 --> 00:32:01,693
Speaker 2: From being scared of It's very cat that everyone's worried

664
00:32:01,733 --> 00:32:03,933
Speaker 2: about how it's going to react to fireworks. Is just

665
00:32:04,333 --> 00:32:08,013
Speaker 2: running around defecating in other people's yards. Where's the love

666
00:32:08,013 --> 00:32:08,613
Speaker 2: from the cat?

667
00:32:08,733 --> 00:32:10,893
Speaker 13: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well you go to the neighbor and

668
00:32:10,893 --> 00:32:12,013
Speaker 13: they oh, that's just what they do.

669
00:32:12,173 --> 00:32:14,573
Speaker 17: It's like, okay, so we're okay with that just being

670
00:32:14,573 --> 00:32:15,093
Speaker 17: what they do.

671
00:32:15,693 --> 00:32:17,853
Speaker 13: But when it comes to this period of year, we want.

672
00:32:17,693 --> 00:32:18,093
Speaker 4: To take.

673
00:32:19,973 --> 00:32:22,413
Speaker 3: Life right up the kind of borderline scared, kind of

674
00:32:22,413 --> 00:32:23,413
Speaker 3: borderline swing.

675
00:32:23,213 --> 00:32:24,413
Speaker 18: Right around having a good old time.

676
00:32:24,573 --> 00:32:27,213
Speaker 16: And I can get the concerns about it, but that

677
00:32:27,453 --> 00:32:30,253
Speaker 16: gets to happen like dress five days in a week.

678
00:32:30,293 --> 00:32:32,053
Speaker 19: I've got to find out way to stop that cat

679
00:32:32,213 --> 00:32:32,653
Speaker 19: and get it.

680
00:32:32,693 --> 00:32:34,573
Speaker 4: Off my lawn and drop the little land lines about

681
00:32:34,613 --> 00:32:35,133
Speaker 4: the play out.

682
00:32:35,493 --> 00:32:37,253
Speaker 20: Yeah, that one too, is that I've got just a

683
00:32:37,293 --> 00:32:39,293
Speaker 20: neighbor across the road the game member.

684
00:32:40,253 --> 00:32:41,773
Speaker 6: Yeah, that side is shoot.

685
00:32:41,773 --> 00:32:45,373
Speaker 4: He's got this in the water in your crystal things

686
00:32:45,733 --> 00:32:46,933
Speaker 4: that just barks.

687
00:32:46,613 --> 00:32:48,973
Speaker 10: All day and when I pluck my dog in it

688
00:32:49,253 --> 00:32:49,533
Speaker 10: and the.

689
00:32:49,573 --> 00:32:52,813
Speaker 18: Bits going at it. But that's okay, Like you can

690
00:32:52,813 --> 00:32:53,053
Speaker 18: own that.

691
00:32:53,213 --> 00:32:55,053
Speaker 3: You can do that truck the bark all days the

692
00:32:55,133 --> 00:32:56,653
Speaker 3: line and truck the boys to lay them.

693
00:32:57,373 --> 00:32:59,133
Speaker 13: It jobs around there to the dogs.

694
00:32:59,173 --> 00:33:00,533
Speaker 4: Just lock the doors out.

695
00:33:00,493 --> 00:33:03,013
Speaker 2: Right, I think so much now, and you're make some

696
00:33:03,093 --> 00:33:06,613
Speaker 2: good points and is worried about it an So I've

697
00:33:06,613 --> 00:33:08,853
Speaker 2: got a friend who's got a cat and could cats

698
00:33:08,853 --> 00:33:10,893
Speaker 2: to terrorize that has cats to the point where the

699
00:33:10,933 --> 00:33:13,613
Speaker 2: cats inside what outside is urinating all over the house.

700
00:33:14,293 --> 00:33:17,093
Speaker 2: So those an animal could be scared of a lot

701
00:33:17,093 --> 00:33:19,213
Speaker 2: of things around fire. It's before we even get into that,

702
00:33:19,733 --> 00:33:21,893
Speaker 2: a lot of Texas crystal setting through our nine two

703
00:33:21,973 --> 00:33:25,293
Speaker 2: nine two thunderstorms. You can't protect your dog Pepper from

704
00:33:25,293 --> 00:33:27,173
Speaker 2: how scared Pep it's going to be in thunderstorms. And

705
00:33:27,173 --> 00:33:29,053
Speaker 2: if you're living in a Word city now, Tyler, you've

706
00:33:29,293 --> 00:33:31,653
Speaker 2: come up with roat jedge. We love having new yet.

707
00:33:31,773 --> 00:33:34,133
Speaker 3: Spar We're going to get up a whole lot more.

708
00:33:33,933 --> 00:33:35,413
Speaker 2: Thunderstorms for Pepper to deal with.

709
00:33:35,493 --> 00:33:36,293
Speaker 4: Up here.

710
00:33:36,133 --> 00:33:40,973
Speaker 16: You hand down cander Man's Thunderstands thunderstorms because at the

711
00:33:40,973 --> 00:33:44,933
Speaker 16: point dam Pepper would not be the neighbor cat lord

712
00:33:45,213 --> 00:33:46,133
Speaker 16: and we don't have a cat.

713
00:33:46,253 --> 00:33:48,933
Speaker 2: So three with Bloody and I think it's it's sort

714
00:33:48,973 --> 00:33:51,693
Speaker 2: of a term of empathy. And I really I really

715
00:33:51,733 --> 00:33:54,773
Speaker 2: love that people care about their their cats and their dogs.

716
00:33:54,813 --> 00:33:57,573
Speaker 2: And I'm not going to hustle someone for looking at

717
00:33:57,573 --> 00:33:59,813
Speaker 2: their dogs scared and feeling bad about it. But I

718
00:33:59,853 --> 00:34:01,733
Speaker 2: think you your heart has to be bigger than that,

719
00:34:01,813 --> 00:34:04,213
Speaker 2: and your heart has to go well on this night.

720
00:34:04,453 --> 00:34:06,573
Speaker 2: On these few nights, my dog might be a little

721
00:34:06,573 --> 00:34:09,692
Speaker 2: bit unhappy, but there's a lot of joy for humans

722
00:34:09,813 --> 00:34:13,172
Speaker 2: out there in the wider community, the wonder in the

723
00:34:13,213 --> 00:34:16,212
Speaker 2: eyes of children as they look at fireworks being let off.

724
00:34:16,413 --> 00:34:18,173
Speaker 2: That also, your heart needs to be big enough to

725
00:34:18,213 --> 00:34:22,172
Speaker 2: include the joy that fireworks bring. That's that everything is

726
00:34:22,613 --> 00:34:25,053
Speaker 2: on a level of good and bad. There's nothing that's

727
00:34:25,053 --> 00:34:26,692
Speaker 2: purely good, and there's nothing that's purely bad.

728
00:34:26,733 --> 00:34:32,053
Speaker 3: Past benefit analysis of joy. Yes, Tony, how you doing good?

729
00:34:32,093 --> 00:34:32,773
Speaker 4: Thanks?

730
00:34:33,293 --> 00:34:33,533
Speaker 10: Hey.

731
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Speaker 13: I think there's no doubt that the one reason why

732
00:34:38,413 --> 00:34:42,212
Speaker 13: Guy Talks or Bonfire Night has continued to be successful

733
00:34:42,813 --> 00:34:46,773
Speaker 13: is that everybody loves blind, especially kids, and there is

734
00:34:46,813 --> 00:34:50,253
Speaker 13: a thrill and there's a joy, and when you're young,

735
00:34:50,453 --> 00:34:53,413
Speaker 13: you just love it, and when you're older, you love

736
00:34:53,493 --> 00:34:55,453
Speaker 13: your having good gun. So you can see that's a

737
00:34:55,533 --> 00:34:58,293
Speaker 13: very powerful thing. But I think if you look back

738
00:34:58,333 --> 00:35:00,613
Speaker 13: at the history of it, why we do it that's

739
00:35:00,613 --> 00:35:02,933
Speaker 13: a little bit hazy and a little bit strange as

740
00:35:02,933 --> 00:35:06,573
Speaker 13: to why we have the ceremony now. When we were young,

741
00:35:07,773 --> 00:35:11,133
Speaker 13: my mother like it because you look at the history

742
00:35:11,173 --> 00:35:15,213
Speaker 13: of Guy Thoughts. Guysthooks was a Catholic and he was

743
00:35:15,253 --> 00:35:20,453
Speaker 13: attempting to blow up the Protestant Party Parliament. Now, the

744
00:35:20,493 --> 00:35:23,173
Speaker 13: English edition, which is what we've been here, basically we

745
00:35:23,253 --> 00:35:25,813
Speaker 13: imported an English edition, just bought it over here.

746
00:35:25,853 --> 00:35:26,613
Speaker 11: At exactly the.

747
00:35:26,533 --> 00:35:30,253
Speaker 13: Same time the English edition was also had bonfires and

748
00:35:30,413 --> 00:35:34,732
Speaker 13: put the figure Guyfooks and burned the Catholic I think so.

749
00:35:34,813 --> 00:35:38,413
Speaker 13: My mother really hated it. That doesn't stop us as

750
00:35:38,413 --> 00:35:40,373
Speaker 13: going to get them because when I was young, I'm

751
00:35:40,373 --> 00:35:43,213
Speaker 13: old enough, we needed to buy five weeks of the dairy.

752
00:35:43,293 --> 00:35:46,813
Speaker 13: You could buy it everywhere, and you could buy things

753
00:35:46,853 --> 00:35:52,573
Speaker 13: like the mighty cannons, the ducting jack producing serious damas.

754
00:35:52,573 --> 00:35:56,053
Speaker 13: That's all been banned now, but they were serious fireworks.

755
00:35:56,413 --> 00:35:56,613
Speaker 20: Now.

756
00:35:56,773 --> 00:35:59,613
Speaker 13: Also, I've been in England and you know, it's been

757
00:35:59,693 --> 00:36:01,853
Speaker 13: part of it over there, and it completely worked to

758
00:36:01,933 --> 00:36:04,853
Speaker 13: me for as a ritual ceremony, because if you look

759
00:36:04,853 --> 00:36:08,172
Speaker 13: at in England and November the fifth, it's completely off

760
00:36:08,373 --> 00:36:12,613
Speaker 13: fit to what New Zealand is England. It's the end

761
00:36:12,653 --> 00:36:15,053
Speaker 13: of autumn, and if you've ever had a garden with

762
00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:18,613
Speaker 13: English deciduous trees, you know that you have all of

763
00:36:18,613 --> 00:36:25,653
Speaker 13: this dead deads, deadly dead troll wood's fallen off, the

764
00:36:25,733 --> 00:36:28,853
Speaker 13: stuff you have to burn. So it fits completely naturally

765
00:36:29,413 --> 00:36:31,733
Speaker 13: into the sight of life in England. You have to

766
00:36:31,813 --> 00:36:35,653
Speaker 13: think remember the first it's you know, going into the

767
00:36:35,733 --> 00:36:36,333
Speaker 13: winter time.

768
00:36:36,613 --> 00:36:39,333
Speaker 2: I definitely a lot of sense over the attorney. But

769
00:36:39,373 --> 00:36:41,013
Speaker 2: you'd say that with Christmas and the kind of food

770
00:36:41,093 --> 00:36:43,293
Speaker 2: we have it at Christmas and stuff, it would make

771
00:36:43,333 --> 00:36:46,333
Speaker 2: a lot more sense if Guy Fawkes was around that time.

772
00:36:46,973 --> 00:36:49,093
Speaker 2: And I definitely can see that. But I will say

773
00:36:49,373 --> 00:36:50,853
Speaker 2: you have pointed something out. When I was a kid

774
00:36:50,853 --> 00:36:52,373
Speaker 2: and we used to burn a guy, I never actually

775
00:36:52,413 --> 00:36:54,373
Speaker 2: looked at it and thought we're burning an effigy of

776
00:36:54,413 --> 00:36:58,093
Speaker 2: a Catholic. It was definitely I looked at that, but

777
00:36:58,373 --> 00:37:00,413
Speaker 2: perhaps that was it. But all traditions that last a

778
00:37:00,453 --> 00:37:04,853
Speaker 2: long time have hairy, hairy histories. Otherwise they don't catch on.

779
00:37:04,933 --> 00:37:07,173
Speaker 2: There has to be drama and a little bit of

780
00:37:07,213 --> 00:37:09,053
Speaker 2: violence around them for them to cut through and have

781
00:37:09,053 --> 00:37:12,652
Speaker 2: the drama for us to continue, you know, celebrating them.

782
00:37:12,693 --> 00:37:14,413
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty. Ten eighty is the number

783
00:37:14,413 --> 00:37:16,293
Speaker 3: of call. It is eight to two.

784
00:37:16,893 --> 00:37:20,253
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

785
00:37:21,213 --> 00:37:24,213
Speaker 1: Mad Eath and Tyler Adams afternoons.

786
00:37:23,693 --> 00:37:27,293
Speaker 3: News Talks' news talks. They'd be good afternoon, Jade, how

787
00:37:27,293 --> 00:37:27,613
Speaker 3: are you?

788
00:37:28,733 --> 00:37:29,493
Speaker 21: I'm good, Thank you?

789
00:37:29,573 --> 00:37:33,093
Speaker 3: How are you good? Fireworks backyard fireworks? What's your thoughts?

790
00:37:33,973 --> 00:37:38,773
Speaker 21: My thoughts. I've got two dogs who get seriously distressed

791
00:37:39,573 --> 00:37:43,293
Speaker 21: through fireworks. I'm also of an age that I know

792
00:37:43,333 --> 00:37:45,693
Speaker 21: how much everyone loves fireworks.

793
00:37:46,133 --> 00:37:48,693
Speaker 6: What I would like is more.

794
00:37:48,533 --> 00:37:53,813
Speaker 21: Control on how long they can go on. For for example,

795
00:37:54,733 --> 00:37:59,693
Speaker 21: it gets started here before Halloween and it probably won't

796
00:37:59,733 --> 00:38:03,573
Speaker 21: stop natal Christmas at various times day and night.

797
00:38:04,573 --> 00:38:05,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I.

798
00:38:05,853 --> 00:38:08,933
Speaker 2: Guess that the problem with that is if we are

799
00:38:08,933 --> 00:38:11,453
Speaker 2: going to allow the sale of fireworks, there's always going

800
00:38:11,493 --> 00:38:15,093
Speaker 2: to be some annoying people that let them off at

801
00:38:15,093 --> 00:38:18,013
Speaker 2: inconsiderate times. But I would say that that's just a

802
00:38:18,053 --> 00:38:21,133
Speaker 2: problem in society as a whole. Everything that we do

803
00:38:21,413 --> 00:38:25,493
Speaker 2: that is good, some people will use for bads. So

804
00:38:25,573 --> 00:38:27,853
Speaker 2: what would you like to see, Jade? Would you like

805
00:38:28,013 --> 00:38:28,653
Speaker 2: I would.

806
00:38:28,453 --> 00:38:35,172
Speaker 21: Like controls on what you know, what dates, you can

807
00:38:35,333 --> 00:38:37,613
Speaker 21: legally let them off and that's that.

808
00:38:38,613 --> 00:38:41,373
Speaker 3: So the week after you can buy them for two days,

809
00:38:41,373 --> 00:38:44,652
Speaker 3: and then the week after that window would be appropriate.

810
00:38:44,733 --> 00:38:45,293
Speaker 3: Then no more.

811
00:38:46,533 --> 00:38:49,373
Speaker 21: Yeah, I reckon because like I see where I live,

812
00:38:49,613 --> 00:38:51,853
Speaker 21: it will go on from now to Christmas.

813
00:38:51,933 --> 00:38:54,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Jay, thank you very much. We're going to

814
00:38:54,453 --> 00:38:56,253
Speaker 3: carry this on after two o'clock.

815
00:38:56,453 --> 00:38:59,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, love the fireweks. Hey, this is the brothers Johnson's

816
00:38:59,173 --> 00:39:03,213
Speaker 2: Strawberry Letter from nineteen seventy seven, produced by Quincy Jones.

817
00:39:03,293 --> 00:39:03,853
Speaker 3: Yeah.

818
00:39:03,933 --> 00:39:07,493
Speaker 2: Absolute genius who passed away at ninety one yesterday.

819
00:39:07,733 --> 00:39:10,373
Speaker 3: Very very said. I mean, as you say, absolute genius.

820
00:39:10,373 --> 00:39:11,893
Speaker 3: So let's hear a little bit of this to go

821
00:39:12,053 --> 00:39:15,573
Speaker 3: out to the news. We'll see you on the other side.

822
00:40:01,733 --> 00:40:06,293
Speaker 1: Your new home for insightful entertaining talk. It's Mattie and

823
00:40:06,493 --> 00:40:09,533
Speaker 1: Tyler Adams afternoons.

824
00:40:08,493 --> 00:40:09,292
Speaker 4: On news Talk.

825
00:40:09,413 --> 00:40:13,652
Speaker 3: Zebby welcome back into the show. Having a great discussion

826
00:40:13,733 --> 00:40:17,573
Speaker 3: about the sale of fireworks. There's a good debate going on.

827
00:40:17,693 --> 00:40:20,133
Speaker 3: I'm still firmly in the camp of I think it

828
00:40:20,133 --> 00:40:22,333
Speaker 3: should be restricted on the days that you can let

829
00:40:22,413 --> 00:40:25,573
Speaker 3: them off. You have made a good argument for the

830
00:40:25,613 --> 00:40:27,973
Speaker 3: case that this is a tradition that goes back over

831
00:40:28,013 --> 00:40:32,013
Speaker 3: four hundred years, something we've bought into in this country,

832
00:40:32,333 --> 00:40:34,573
Speaker 3: and kids love it and they have for a long time.

833
00:40:34,773 --> 00:40:37,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, my things that look I totally understand. I'm a

834
00:40:37,973 --> 00:40:39,853
Speaker 2: dog lover. I've got my dog Colin lover more than

835
00:40:39,893 --> 00:40:42,732
Speaker 2: anything else in the world. But we have to think

836
00:40:42,773 --> 00:40:45,573
Speaker 2: about things that bring humans together and big families together,

837
00:40:46,013 --> 00:40:48,573
Speaker 2: and guy fawks and letting off fireworks in the backyard

838
00:40:48,733 --> 00:40:52,693
Speaker 2: brings families to gear thats And as I was saying before,

839
00:40:52,853 --> 00:40:56,373
Speaker 2: it's an opportunity for parents to show how you deal

840
00:40:56,413 --> 00:41:01,853
Speaker 2: with dangerous things, and it's an opportunity to bring kids

841
00:41:01,893 --> 00:41:05,533
Speaker 2: away from things that are incredibly exciting like social media

842
00:41:05,693 --> 00:41:09,173
Speaker 2: and video games to actually spend time with their family.

843
00:41:09,253 --> 00:41:13,013
Speaker 2: And and anyone that said kids seen them, Kids seen

844
00:41:13,053 --> 00:41:15,613
Speaker 2: the wonder in kid's eyes. And people say, oh, well,

845
00:41:15,613 --> 00:41:20,413
Speaker 2: you can go to public fireworks displays. There is nothing

846
00:41:20,493 --> 00:41:23,933
Speaker 2: more boring in the entire world than a public fireworks display.

847
00:41:24,453 --> 00:41:27,973
Speaker 2: Absolutely nothing more boring. Then putting out to let the

848
00:41:27,973 --> 00:41:30,253
Speaker 2: fireworks off yourself is the whole point of it.

849
00:41:30,773 --> 00:41:31,093
Speaker 3: Bang.

850
00:41:31,293 --> 00:41:34,973
Speaker 2: It's an absolutely brilliantly good time and there's no doubt

851
00:41:35,013 --> 00:41:37,613
Speaker 2: that it scares some animals. There's no doubt about that,

852
00:41:38,013 --> 00:41:40,773
Speaker 2: but it brings joy into the heart of other animals,

853
00:41:40,933 --> 00:41:44,652
Speaker 2: i e. Human beings and families.

854
00:41:46,213 --> 00:41:48,373
Speaker 3: You would admit, though it's a primal thing. That's why

855
00:41:48,373 --> 00:41:50,772
Speaker 3: we love fireworks, and that's why kids love fireworks. There's

856
00:41:50,773 --> 00:41:54,773
Speaker 3: something about fire and explosions, something about.

857
00:41:54,573 --> 00:41:57,373
Speaker 2: A little bit of danger. So for things to be

858
00:41:57,413 --> 00:41:59,772
Speaker 2: truly exciting in life, they have to have a little

859
00:41:59,773 --> 00:42:01,093
Speaker 2: bit of danger. They have to have a little bit

860
00:42:01,133 --> 00:42:03,652
Speaker 2: of risk. To have reward, there needs to be risk,

861
00:42:03,733 --> 00:42:05,693
Speaker 2: and there is a little bit of risk in fireworks.

862
00:42:05,693 --> 00:42:07,893
Speaker 2: I mean I was letting one off and it fell over.

863
00:42:07,893 --> 00:42:10,013
Speaker 2: Instead of firing at the family, it was like a

864
00:42:10,053 --> 00:42:12,853
Speaker 2: war zone. It was firing, just firing and reporting. I

865
00:42:12,853 --> 00:42:14,133
Speaker 2: had to jump in front of this is where my

866
00:42:14,213 --> 00:42:15,453
Speaker 2: kids were like three and four?

867
00:42:16,493 --> 00:42:18,773
Speaker 3: Are you dived in to save them from the Roman candle?

868
00:42:18,813 --> 00:42:21,373
Speaker 2: Three and three and five? Sorry, I dived in and

869
00:42:21,773 --> 00:42:23,853
Speaker 2: I took a hit to my back protecting my family.

870
00:42:24,093 --> 00:42:27,172
Speaker 2: And you know that was a lesson for the kids.

871
00:42:27,293 --> 00:42:32,133
Speaker 2: Doesn't always get it right, Bernie, How are you?

872
00:42:33,013 --> 00:42:34,093
Speaker 9: Oh?

873
00:42:34,133 --> 00:42:34,533
Speaker 12: I'm good.

874
00:42:34,573 --> 00:42:37,813
Speaker 9: Guys, you probably end up thinking a grumpy old man

875
00:42:37,933 --> 00:42:44,093
Speaker 9: and a hypocrypta Bernie, no way, No, your opinion A

876
00:42:44,093 --> 00:42:49,333
Speaker 9: long time ago, we had all the various crackers and

877
00:42:49,333 --> 00:42:52,813
Speaker 9: and did the right thing by a father in the backyard,

878
00:42:53,413 --> 00:42:58,733
Speaker 9: but that we probably didn't realize at that time the

879
00:42:58,853 --> 00:43:01,933
Speaker 9: damage that was being done, although some I certainly know

880
00:43:02,133 --> 00:43:05,732
Speaker 9: some of my mates did stupid things, fearing them at

881
00:43:05,773 --> 00:43:10,493
Speaker 9: cars and putting a lot together to see what the

882
00:43:10,573 --> 00:43:16,373
Speaker 9: result would be. And I've now hopefully grown up and

883
00:43:17,253 --> 00:43:20,853
Speaker 9: we got a lot more communication. Now what's happening on

884
00:43:21,013 --> 00:43:28,413
Speaker 9: these events at the nights when La Lamain let loose again?

885
00:43:30,373 --> 00:43:33,653
Speaker 9: And I would say that those people that promote private sale,

886
00:43:34,413 --> 00:43:41,133
Speaker 9: including yourself, Matt. The day after when we reason the

887
00:43:41,213 --> 00:43:46,533
Speaker 9: news this horse has bolted and went through fence, animals injured,

888
00:43:47,533 --> 00:43:50,573
Speaker 9: people injured, you can sort of feel a little bit

889
00:43:50,613 --> 00:43:57,013
Speaker 9: responsible for that yourself. The trouble is this world is

890
00:43:57,413 --> 00:44:00,853
Speaker 9: full of Richard wits, even worse than my day, of course,

891
00:44:01,613 --> 00:44:06,692
Speaker 9: and they because you can buy fireworks, you can let

892
00:44:06,693 --> 00:44:09,493
Speaker 9: them off at any time, and you're not going to

893
00:44:09,693 --> 00:44:14,093
Speaker 9: restrict it to any times. I know, I go to

894
00:44:14,133 --> 00:44:18,813
Speaker 9: my partner's place and there's people all around any day

895
00:44:18,853 --> 00:44:21,893
Speaker 9: of the year of their birthday, party or something. These

896
00:44:23,333 --> 00:44:26,173
Speaker 9: things go off and they are a nuisance. You can't

897
00:44:26,773 --> 00:44:31,253
Speaker 9: lock your animals up for that particular time because you

898
00:44:31,293 --> 00:44:32,413
Speaker 9: don't know what it's going to happen.

899
00:44:32,573 --> 00:44:35,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that, Bernie, that there's definitely

900
00:44:35,973 --> 00:44:39,053
Speaker 2: damage that gets done, but I guess that's the case

901
00:44:39,093 --> 00:44:43,613
Speaker 2: across everything. Alcohol for example, to go for the example

902
00:44:43,613 --> 00:44:47,053
Speaker 2: everyone brings up, you can buy alcohol in certain times

903
00:44:47,053 --> 00:44:49,093
Speaker 2: and it's restricted, but you can take it home. People

904
00:44:49,093 --> 00:44:51,813
Speaker 2: can leave a bottle store with ten bottles ten one, one,

905
00:44:51,813 --> 00:44:54,333
Speaker 2: two fives of gin and certain people are going to

906
00:44:54,373 --> 00:44:57,173
Speaker 2: abuse that. But I wouldn't stop you from having a

907
00:44:57,213 --> 00:44:59,333
Speaker 2: G and T in your backyard just because of the

908
00:44:59,373 --> 00:45:05,053
Speaker 2: wider damage to society. And look, animals, And I still

909
00:45:05,053 --> 00:45:08,213
Speaker 2: go back to this, it's a terrifying world for animals. Animals.

910
00:45:09,093 --> 00:45:11,212
Speaker 2: This study on mice and they found that the mice

911
00:45:11,253 --> 00:45:15,053
Speaker 2: are terrified for their whole life. They found that the

912
00:45:15,133 --> 00:45:18,413
Speaker 2: levels of cortisol and mice meant that a mouse is

913
00:45:18,493 --> 00:45:22,212
Speaker 2: terrified for its whole life. All mouse, all mice, spin

914
00:45:22,293 --> 00:45:23,853
Speaker 2: their entire life terrified, that's what they do.

915
00:45:24,053 --> 00:45:25,013
Speaker 3: Horrible existence.

916
00:45:25,173 --> 00:45:27,653
Speaker 2: It's a terrible existence to be a mouse. But animals

917
00:45:27,693 --> 00:45:29,293
Speaker 2: are going to be terrified. Animals is going to be

918
00:45:29,373 --> 00:45:32,453
Speaker 2: terrified by other animals and horses are going to run

919
00:45:32,453 --> 00:45:36,013
Speaker 2: away from dogs. Dogs are going to terrify people. Cats

920
00:45:36,013 --> 00:45:38,973
Speaker 2: are going to terrify other cats. Thunderstorms are going to

921
00:45:39,053 --> 00:45:43,333
Speaker 2: terrify all animals. That's just the way it is. Animals

922
00:45:43,413 --> 00:45:46,653
Speaker 2: are scared beings for their own safety. You were worried

923
00:45:46,693 --> 00:45:50,173
Speaker 2: before about Tyler about your dog Pepper being scared. People

924
00:45:50,173 --> 00:45:52,053
Speaker 2: will be scared about a number of things. People will

925
00:45:52,053 --> 00:45:55,093
Speaker 2: get scared when a dog when someone knocks at.

926
00:45:54,933 --> 00:45:57,373
Speaker 3: The door, Yeah, she gets a bit barkie, gets.

927
00:45:57,133 --> 00:45:58,853
Speaker 2: A bit barkie. You've also got to remember with dogs,

928
00:45:58,893 --> 00:46:00,853
Speaker 2: when they're barking and running around, that doesn't mean they're

929
00:46:00,853 --> 00:46:05,653
Speaker 2: not having a good time. Dogs like to alert their owners.

930
00:46:06,133 --> 00:46:09,413
Speaker 2: The pack that said they that's how they participate. That's

931
00:46:09,453 --> 00:46:11,732
Speaker 2: why we have dogs around it. Initially because they were

932
00:46:11,733 --> 00:46:13,933
Speaker 2: the wolves that weren't scared of humans, came sat buner

933
00:46:13,933 --> 00:46:16,613
Speaker 2: the fire and their job was to warn us of danger.

934
00:46:16,733 --> 00:46:19,253
Speaker 2: So dogs love to warn you of danger. So if

935
00:46:19,253 --> 00:46:22,013
Speaker 2: your dog's barking at fireworks, doesn't mean they're scared. It

936
00:46:22,053 --> 00:46:24,133
Speaker 2: actually means that they're getting to do their job.

937
00:46:24,493 --> 00:46:27,733
Speaker 3: On that point, she started off having fun, but after

938
00:46:27,893 --> 00:46:30,813
Speaker 3: two and a half hours of it and going off intermittently.

939
00:46:30,893 --> 00:46:32,893
Speaker 3: She wasn't having fun at that point she started off

940
00:46:32,933 --> 00:46:35,973
Speaker 3: barking and saying I'm protecting you, and then by the

941
00:46:36,053 --> 00:46:37,652
Speaker 3: end of that she was in the corner shaking like

942
00:46:37,653 --> 00:46:39,773
Speaker 3: a leaf. I've never seen it like that. But just

943
00:46:39,813 --> 00:46:42,853
Speaker 3: to Bernie's point, the horses, that's a different story, right.

944
00:46:43,013 --> 00:46:45,772
Speaker 3: That is hard for horse owners is that for most

945
00:46:45,813 --> 00:46:48,293
Speaker 3: of the year, not much would spooker horse to the

946
00:46:48,373 --> 00:46:50,613
Speaker 3: level of firework. And if you're going to protect the

947
00:46:50,613 --> 00:46:52,733
Speaker 3: horse and get them into a barn or do something

948
00:46:52,773 --> 00:46:55,772
Speaker 3: to make sure they're not going to injure themselves, that's

949
00:46:55,813 --> 00:46:58,773
Speaker 3: okay for two or three days. But if the fireworks

950
00:46:58,813 --> 00:47:00,652
Speaker 3: are getting led off for the next couple of months

951
00:47:00,693 --> 00:47:03,413
Speaker 3: and you don't know when, that is hard to deal with.

952
00:47:03,653 --> 00:47:05,853
Speaker 2: But so what's your solution to that situation. They already

953
00:47:05,853 --> 00:47:09,373
Speaker 2: restrict fireworks sales to three years three days. Yeah, three

954
00:47:09,453 --> 00:47:09,933
Speaker 2: days a year.

955
00:47:10,173 --> 00:47:12,333
Speaker 3: You restrict when people can let them off, ye, say

956
00:47:12,373 --> 00:47:12,813
Speaker 3: a week?

957
00:47:13,053 --> 00:47:14,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, So do you think people that are restricted it

958
00:47:14,853 --> 00:47:17,013
Speaker 2: to that, which I think is insane that you're restricting

959
00:47:17,013 --> 00:47:19,733
Speaker 2: it just to three days a year. Like, we're humans

960
00:47:19,853 --> 00:47:22,453
Speaker 2: and part of society. We should be trusted and punished

961
00:47:22,493 --> 00:47:23,853
Speaker 2: if we do stupid things. That's the way.

962
00:47:24,093 --> 00:47:25,893
Speaker 3: You don't like that we only sell it for three days.

963
00:47:26,053 --> 00:47:28,053
Speaker 2: I just think that people have no endgame on it.

964
00:47:29,093 --> 00:47:31,293
Speaker 2: The people that were restricted and pushed to restrict it

965
00:47:31,293 --> 00:47:33,973
Speaker 2: for three days, they actually, if they're honest, want to

966
00:47:33,973 --> 00:47:38,933
Speaker 2: get rid of it completely. And that's the way it happens.

967
00:47:39,013 --> 00:47:40,613
Speaker 2: Think all the Overton window. But it can work the

968
00:47:40,653 --> 00:47:44,693
Speaker 2: other way. So people restrict it, they describe it as bad.

969
00:47:45,093 --> 00:47:47,652
Speaker 2: They forget about the fun that's been had on it,

970
00:47:47,693 --> 00:47:49,773
Speaker 2: and they only ever focus on the bad side of it.

971
00:47:50,093 --> 00:47:53,533
Speaker 2: And the end result of that is complete banning. And

972
00:47:53,613 --> 00:47:57,173
Speaker 2: as we go through into the future, things are getting

973
00:47:57,213 --> 00:48:00,212
Speaker 2: banned and banned and banned and banned, and then it's

974
00:48:00,253 --> 00:48:02,853
Speaker 2: outsized to the damage that it was being causing, and

975
00:48:02,893 --> 00:48:06,173
Speaker 2: then the joy and the tradition is destroyed.

976
00:48:06,853 --> 00:48:09,693
Speaker 3: What about this text, Hey, guys, good arguments on both sides.

977
00:48:09,813 --> 00:48:12,613
Speaker 3: You used to be able to buy reduced noise fireworks,

978
00:48:13,093 --> 00:48:15,573
Speaker 3: which I bought a few years ago. Maybe all fireworks

979
00:48:15,573 --> 00:48:19,093
Speaker 3: should be this type from Bonnie So safer fireworks. Yeah,

980
00:48:19,373 --> 00:48:21,933
Speaker 3: quieter fireworks. You can still have fun. You can still

981
00:48:21,933 --> 00:48:24,453
Speaker 3: see a bit of fire, bit of flame. So some

982
00:48:24,533 --> 00:48:26,773
Speaker 3: balls of fire shoot up into the air, but they're quiet.

983
00:48:26,933 --> 00:48:29,733
Speaker 2: Well, we did restrict fireworks and we changed the rules

984
00:48:29,733 --> 00:48:33,333
Speaker 2: on what could be in fireworks in New Zealand, but

985
00:48:33,653 --> 00:48:35,973
Speaker 2: the firework manufacturers just got around the rules and made

986
00:48:35,973 --> 00:48:38,133
Speaker 2: them clever and clever and clever, and you got rid

987
00:48:38,173 --> 00:48:40,893
Speaker 2: of skyrockets which went and they were a lot of

988
00:48:40,893 --> 00:48:43,933
Speaker 2: fun because people thought they were dangerous. Yeah, as a result,

989
00:48:43,973 --> 00:48:47,933
Speaker 2: now people, as I said before, the fireworks now fire

990
00:48:48,013 --> 00:48:51,133
Speaker 2: eight shots and report, so you get eight times the sound.

991
00:48:51,173 --> 00:48:53,413
Speaker 3: The Roman candles aren't too much better. Here, Oh, eight

992
00:48:53,493 --> 00:48:57,933
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty, it is a quarter past two.

993
00:48:58,453 --> 00:49:02,133
Speaker 1: You're new home of Afternoon Talk and Heathen Taylor Adams

994
00:49:02,173 --> 00:49:03,172
Speaker 1: Afternoon Call.

995
00:49:03,373 --> 00:49:05,573
Speaker 4: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty News.

996
00:49:05,373 --> 00:49:08,212
Speaker 3: Talk said be eighteen pass two.

997
00:49:08,373 --> 00:49:11,093
Speaker 2: I love this discussion on fireworks because you, Tyler and

998
00:49:11,133 --> 00:49:12,733
Speaker 2: me are getting equal amounts of abuse.

999
00:49:13,053 --> 00:49:14,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fifty to fifty abuse.

1000
00:49:14,853 --> 00:49:18,733
Speaker 2: It's fifty fifty absolutely, maybe a little bit more abuse

1001
00:49:18,773 --> 00:49:22,772
Speaker 2: for you. Matt says this textra on nine two nine two. Matt,

1002
00:49:22,813 --> 00:49:25,493
Speaker 2: once again we butt heads. Fireworks should be banned full stop.

1003
00:49:25,533 --> 00:49:27,333
Speaker 2: It's not a New Zealand tradition. And if you think

1004
00:49:27,333 --> 00:49:29,653
Speaker 2: showing your kids. How to blow things up is good fun.

1005
00:49:29,933 --> 00:49:31,853
Speaker 2: You need your head read. You might as well set

1006
00:49:31,893 --> 00:49:34,533
Speaker 2: a one hundred OD note on fire. Actually, my kids

1007
00:49:34,573 --> 00:49:36,813
Speaker 2: would come out to see that. Such a waste of money.

1008
00:49:37,093 --> 00:49:39,013
Speaker 2: There are far better ways to bring a family together

1009
00:49:39,053 --> 00:49:42,053
Speaker 2: and bring joy to our children. Grow up. Cheers, Carl.

1010
00:49:42,093 --> 00:49:45,853
Speaker 2: I appreciate your text, but I would say that the

1011
00:49:45,933 --> 00:49:47,973
Speaker 2: idea that just because the tradition isn't from New Zealand,

1012
00:49:47,973 --> 00:49:50,213
Speaker 2: we shouldn't do it. You'd be banning a whole lot

1013
00:49:50,253 --> 00:49:52,813
Speaker 2: of whole lot of traditions. Would have Would you not

1014
00:49:52,853 --> 00:49:55,533
Speaker 2: celebrate Duali in New Zealand because it's not from New Zealand?

1015
00:49:55,893 --> 00:49:59,373
Speaker 2: Would you not celebrate Christmas Santa Claus? Would we ban

1016
00:49:59,453 --> 00:50:02,013
Speaker 2: all those things? Is that Easter Bunny not worth celebrating

1017
00:50:02,013 --> 00:50:05,093
Speaker 2: because the Easter bunny idea wasn't invented in New Zealand?

1018
00:50:05,453 --> 00:50:08,652
Speaker 2: And you look are there and may be seen an

1019
00:50:08,653 --> 00:50:11,453
Speaker 2: interesting way to entertain your kids. But you can't entertain

1020
00:50:11,453 --> 00:50:15,413
Speaker 2: your kids with boring stuff. That's the definition of entertainment.

1021
00:50:15,693 --> 00:50:19,253
Speaker 2: And whilst sending one hundred of note in your backyard

1022
00:50:20,853 --> 00:50:22,453
Speaker 2: may seem like a stupid thing to do, if it

1023
00:50:22,533 --> 00:50:25,772
Speaker 2: got the family together to stand around and spend some

1024
00:50:25,893 --> 00:50:29,853
Speaker 2: time and taught them lessons about safety. Then yeah, I

1025
00:50:29,893 --> 00:50:31,893
Speaker 2: would burn money in the back card to do it.

1026
00:50:31,973 --> 00:50:33,773
Speaker 2: I think it's illegal to burn money. I think, you know,

1027
00:50:34,093 --> 00:50:36,773
Speaker 2: not allowed to burn official currency.

1028
00:50:37,213 --> 00:50:39,653
Speaker 3: But why not give them chocolate that looks like guy fawks.

1029
00:50:39,653 --> 00:50:41,573
Speaker 3: There you go. That's in the Easter tradition. That's why

1030
00:50:41,653 --> 00:50:43,732
Speaker 3: kids love it because they look for the chocolate Easter

1031
00:50:43,813 --> 00:50:45,853
Speaker 3: eggs and they can go to town. That's a nice thing.

1032
00:50:46,013 --> 00:50:49,333
Speaker 3: They don't have to blow anything up. You give them chocolate. Yeah, okay,

1033
00:50:49,373 --> 00:50:52,173
Speaker 3: well that's Easter. That's what you do on Easter. On

1034
00:50:52,333 --> 00:50:53,573
Speaker 3: guy fawks, you blow stuff up.

1035
00:50:53,613 --> 00:50:56,453
Speaker 2: And the reason why it's such a successful and popular

1036
00:50:56,493 --> 00:51:00,373
Speaker 2: tradition is it's fun. As I keep saying, the wonder

1037
00:51:00,413 --> 00:51:04,053
Speaker 2: in a child's eyes when they're running around with a sparkler,

1038
00:51:04,373 --> 00:51:07,773
Speaker 2: when you set off set off fireworks, and when you

1039
00:51:07,813 --> 00:51:09,853
Speaker 2: teach them lesson by sending them out there and going,

1040
00:51:09,853 --> 00:51:11,693
Speaker 2: this is how you set off a firework. This is

1041
00:51:11,693 --> 00:51:14,652
Speaker 2: how you do it. Here's the long handled lighter. You

1042
00:51:14,693 --> 00:51:16,373
Speaker 2: go out there and you don't look down it. You

1043
00:51:16,493 --> 00:51:19,053
Speaker 2: be very careful, and you teach some valuable lessons about

1044
00:51:19,133 --> 00:51:21,253
Speaker 2: risk and reward. Because you can bring up kids to

1045
00:51:21,333 --> 00:51:23,293
Speaker 2: be completely safe, but at some point they have to

1046
00:51:23,293 --> 00:51:24,732
Speaker 2: go out in the world. So the idea of bringing

1047
00:51:24,773 --> 00:51:27,973
Speaker 2: up kids is to bring up competent kids, not protected kids,

1048
00:51:28,013 --> 00:51:30,413
Speaker 2: because eventually they have to make decisions from them south

1049
00:51:30,453 --> 00:51:32,933
Speaker 2: out there, and Guy Fawkes is a great way to

1050
00:51:32,973 --> 00:51:34,213
Speaker 2: teach them risk and reward.

1051
00:51:34,493 --> 00:51:40,093
Speaker 3: Light the fuse and run like how kids, Hello, get

1052
00:51:40,093 --> 00:51:41,253
Speaker 3: a bob you're on?

1053
00:51:41,933 --> 00:51:49,373
Speaker 12: Yeah, Hi, I'm just blowing away with We hear everybody

1054
00:51:49,413 --> 00:51:53,453
Speaker 12: every day talking about the increasing cost of living, and

1055
00:51:54,493 --> 00:51:58,653
Speaker 12: we have this ability to go out and buy fireworks

1056
00:51:59,293 --> 00:52:03,453
Speaker 12: which are not cheap and just blow it into the sky.

1057
00:52:04,693 --> 00:52:06,732
Speaker 12: It just makes a joke out of the whole thing.

1058
00:52:07,333 --> 00:52:09,292
Speaker 2: Well, some people can afford them and some people can't.

1059
00:52:09,293 --> 00:52:11,333
Speaker 2: If you don't have enough money to feed your kids,

1060
00:52:11,373 --> 00:52:13,373
Speaker 2: then it would be ridiculous to be spending the money

1061
00:52:13,413 --> 00:52:16,732
Speaker 2: on fireworks. But if you do, then, just like going

1062
00:52:16,773 --> 00:52:18,773
Speaker 2: to the movies or any other form of entertainment, the

1063
00:52:18,813 --> 00:52:22,333
Speaker 2: amount of disposable income you have, you spend on what

1064
00:52:22,373 --> 00:52:24,013
Speaker 2: you choose to spend on it. Some people choose to

1065
00:52:24,013 --> 00:52:26,652
Speaker 2: spend it on fireworks. Not everyone doesn't have enough money

1066
00:52:26,653 --> 00:52:27,253
Speaker 2: for fireworks.

1067
00:52:28,533 --> 00:52:31,373
Speaker 12: Well, we're not talking about everybody. We're talking about the

1068
00:52:31,453 --> 00:52:32,333
Speaker 12: average person.

1069
00:52:32,493 --> 00:52:35,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they have said, because sorry to interrupt, Bob,

1070
00:52:36,253 --> 00:52:39,053
Speaker 2: so because the average person can't afford to do it.

1071
00:52:39,093 --> 00:52:40,813
Speaker 2: And I think the average person probably can't afford to

1072
00:52:40,813 --> 00:52:44,853
Speaker 2: buy fireworks. But would you then say that all luxuries

1073
00:52:45,173 --> 00:52:48,653
Speaker 2: should be off the table because some people can't afford them.

1074
00:52:49,533 --> 00:52:52,652
Speaker 12: You wish to dominate the conversation, so I'll leave it

1075
00:52:52,693 --> 00:52:56,413
Speaker 12: with you. You can dictate to New Zealand how they

1076
00:52:56,413 --> 00:52:58,533
Speaker 12: should behave. Thank you for the listening.

1077
00:52:58,733 --> 00:53:00,813
Speaker 3: Thank you, Bob, Thank you very much for calling.

1078
00:53:01,053 --> 00:53:01,212
Speaker 9: Well.

1079
00:53:01,213 --> 00:53:03,173
Speaker 3: I suppose I don't have too much of an issue

1080
00:53:03,173 --> 00:53:05,453
Speaker 3: with how much they cost. And I think I mean

1081
00:53:05,733 --> 00:53:07,093
Speaker 3: the ones that are sold on the side of the

1082
00:53:07,173 --> 00:53:09,133
Speaker 3: road and some of those of them for schools.

1083
00:53:09,173 --> 00:53:11,053
Speaker 2: Believe it or not, it's cheaper than going to the movies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some of those are very cheap because they import

1085
00:53:13,973 --> 00:53:14,933
Speaker 3: them from I.

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00:53:14,933 --> 00:53:17,253
Speaker 2: Don't quite get that. I really appreciate you call, Bob,

1087
00:53:17,293 --> 00:53:19,652
Speaker 2: but I don't quite get that idea that because some

1088
00:53:19,693 --> 00:53:22,853
Speaker 2: people are doing it tough, then everyone shouldn't be spending,

1089
00:53:23,413 --> 00:53:25,333
Speaker 2: and that it's somehow wrong to spend, because if we're

1090
00:53:25,373 --> 00:53:27,493
Speaker 2: going to get out of a recession, you need the

1091
00:53:27,533 --> 00:53:30,173
Speaker 2: people that have some disposable and come to spend it. Otherwise,

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00:53:30,173 --> 00:53:34,493
Speaker 2: we don't have hospo. We don't have, we don't have

1093
00:53:34,693 --> 00:53:36,973
Speaker 2: a business is starting up, and there's some people spend

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00:53:36,973 --> 00:53:40,812
Speaker 2: some money outside of the bear necessities of life.

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00:53:41,133 --> 00:53:43,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you mentioned before that your kids would love

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00:53:43,253 --> 00:53:45,533
Speaker 3: it if you said a one hundred dollars belongs. I'd

1097
00:53:45,573 --> 00:53:46,573
Speaker 3: find that very entertaining.

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00:53:46,613 --> 00:53:50,533
Speaker 2: But it was your money, would I don't know if

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00:53:50,533 --> 00:53:53,373
Speaker 2: they'd find it quite as exciting as fireworks unless the

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00:53:53,813 --> 00:53:56,293
Speaker 2: one hundred dollars bill went bang when I said it

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00:53:56,293 --> 00:53:56,613
Speaker 2: on fire.

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00:53:56,653 --> 00:53:58,333
Speaker 3: I'm going to ask you if you ever think about this,

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00:53:58,413 --> 00:54:02,053
Speaker 3: what is your favorite firework not of all time that

1104
00:54:02,133 --> 00:54:03,053
Speaker 3: you can purchase now?

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00:54:03,853 --> 00:54:04,053
Speaker 6: Ever?

1106
00:54:04,093 --> 00:54:06,013
Speaker 3: Think about that? Your answer after break?

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00:54:06,053 --> 00:54:06,533
Speaker 2: Good question.

1108
00:54:06,653 --> 00:54:08,253
Speaker 3: It is twenty three past two.

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00:54:12,693 --> 00:54:16,373
Speaker 1: Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

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00:54:16,613 --> 00:54:18,213
Speaker 1: eighty on Youth Talk ZEDB.

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00:54:18,813 --> 00:54:22,772
Speaker 3: News Talks EDB. Good afternoon, Sean, mate, how are you yeah?

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00:54:22,813 --> 00:54:25,653
Speaker 3: Goods fireworks? Are you a fan of the backyard fire weeks?

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00:54:26,373 --> 00:54:29,013
Speaker 18: Yes, i am. I'm actually fully on met side on

1114
00:54:29,053 --> 00:54:35,293
Speaker 18: this one time on Hiraki as well. Mate. It's also

1115
00:54:35,373 --> 00:54:39,413
Speaker 18: good to hear a balanced opinion on a mainstream radio station.

1116
00:54:39,653 --> 00:54:42,333
Speaker 18: I'll say that quite openly to have your opinion. I've

1117
00:54:42,333 --> 00:54:44,212
Speaker 18: listened to you for the last few weeks or months

1118
00:54:44,213 --> 00:54:46,253
Speaker 18: since you've been on board on this channel, and it's

1119
00:54:46,293 --> 00:54:49,573
Speaker 18: just refreshing. It's like, Wow, here's a balanced conversation with

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00:54:49,653 --> 00:54:52,053
Speaker 18: a difference of opinion. Thank you, and I'm on your side.

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00:54:52,293 --> 00:54:54,293
Speaker 18: No ways, I've got We've got a three year old dog,

1122
00:54:54,333 --> 00:54:57,173
Speaker 18: got three kids, three cats, I'll better not forget the

1123
00:54:57,213 --> 00:55:00,293
Speaker 18: wife and a three year old dog as well. And

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00:55:00,453 --> 00:55:02,933
Speaker 18: we we live in Parmiston, North so during the speedway

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00:55:02,973 --> 00:55:05,893
Speaker 18: season we get to experience three fireworks display. We live

1126
00:55:05,893 --> 00:55:08,293
Speaker 18: about twelve minutes from the stadium where they do the speedway,

1127
00:55:08,533 --> 00:55:11,613
Speaker 18: a twelve minute walk, so we get through fireworks disposed

1128
00:55:11,613 --> 00:55:13,613
Speaker 18: every weekend through the speedway season and we love it,

1129
00:55:14,013 --> 00:55:16,213
Speaker 18: not along with it all right. Yes, it's a controlled manner,

1130
00:55:16,213 --> 00:55:19,733
Speaker 18: like you say that boring when the controlled event, But

1131
00:55:19,773 --> 00:55:21,293
Speaker 18: the dog has sort of always grown up with it.

1132
00:55:21,333 --> 00:55:23,493
Speaker 18: He's just absolutely good as goal freaks out a little bit.

1133
00:55:23,893 --> 00:55:25,933
Speaker 18: But if the left wing woke mob are going to

1134
00:55:26,013 --> 00:55:29,733
Speaker 18: cry about everything that gets done for fun, where do

1135
00:55:29,773 --> 00:55:30,173
Speaker 18: you stop.

1136
00:55:30,573 --> 00:55:32,933
Speaker 2: Well, that's interesting, you should say that Sean, because I

1137
00:55:32,973 --> 00:55:36,172
Speaker 2: think often people complain more about people having fun than

1138
00:55:36,213 --> 00:55:41,173
Speaker 2: they do about other things. There's something about people slightly

1139
00:55:41,213 --> 00:55:44,853
Speaker 2: inconvenience in them for fun. It's like you talk about speedway,

1140
00:55:44,893 --> 00:55:47,373
Speaker 2: the noise of the speedway. People don't like that because

1141
00:55:47,413 --> 00:55:51,013
Speaker 2: they feel like that isn't essential to life, so they'll

1142
00:55:51,013 --> 00:55:54,133
Speaker 2: complain about it. But I think joy and other human

1143
00:55:54,173 --> 00:55:56,933
Speaker 2: beings within our society getting to have fun, even if

1144
00:55:56,973 --> 00:56:00,733
Speaker 2: that noise encroaches on them, is part of society, and

1145
00:56:00,733 --> 00:56:04,333
Speaker 2: that is every bit is as important as the day

1146
00:56:04,333 --> 00:56:07,613
Speaker 2: to day functioning of life that makes noise exactly.

1147
00:56:07,653 --> 00:56:09,732
Speaker 18: I mean, we move moved by where we were. We

1148
00:56:09,853 --> 00:56:12,172
Speaker 18: moved out of Auckland three years ago down the party

1149
00:56:12,293 --> 00:56:14,573
Speaker 18: work took me there and obviously the family as well.

1150
00:56:15,173 --> 00:56:16,973
Speaker 18: We knew that we were moving by the speedway. So

1151
00:56:16,973 --> 00:56:18,813
Speaker 18: I can kind of reflect back to the windows at

1152
00:56:18,813 --> 00:56:21,573
Speaker 18: the speedway in Western Springs, which I enjoyed many a

1153
00:56:21,573 --> 00:56:25,053
Speaker 18: concert there as well over the years. Absolutely awesome. And

1154
00:56:25,093 --> 00:56:26,893
Speaker 18: the people in around a hidden park that chose to

1155
00:56:26,933 --> 00:56:29,453
Speaker 18: buy by a concert venue or a speedway venue. You

1156
00:56:29,613 --> 00:56:31,293
Speaker 18: just wake up people, you know what you're.

1157
00:56:31,173 --> 00:56:31,573
Speaker 13: Going in for?

1158
00:56:32,013 --> 00:56:34,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, bother But Sean just quickly because I don't want

1159
00:56:34,573 --> 00:56:36,453
Speaker 3: to ban fireworks. I don't want to do that, but

1160
00:56:36,613 --> 00:56:39,252
Speaker 3: but what I want is some fearness over the use

1161
00:56:39,333 --> 00:56:41,573
Speaker 3: that if you want to let off fireworks, that's good.

1162
00:56:41,573 --> 00:56:43,652
Speaker 3: If it annoys me, that's not really the point. But

1163
00:56:43,733 --> 00:56:46,373
Speaker 3: I need to prepare to make sure that my dog's

1164
00:56:46,413 --> 00:56:48,293
Speaker 3: not going to freak out, and other pit owners need

1165
00:56:48,333 --> 00:56:50,253
Speaker 3: to do that if that, if your pet can't do

1166
00:56:50,373 --> 00:56:51,172
Speaker 3: with fireworks.

1167
00:56:51,373 --> 00:56:53,493
Speaker 18: It's like Christmas. Every year, you know it comes around,

1168
00:56:53,533 --> 00:56:54,973
Speaker 18: you prepare for it, whether you've got kids or not,

1169
00:56:55,013 --> 00:56:56,813
Speaker 18: whether you celebrate it or not. You prepare, you buy

1170
00:56:56,813 --> 00:56:59,173
Speaker 18: the presence, you do that barbecue ready, you buy youse.

1171
00:56:59,773 --> 00:57:03,413
Speaker 18: November the fifth has been there since the inception of

1172
00:57:03,413 --> 00:57:05,693
Speaker 18: the calendar, and then four hundred ode years since the

1173
00:57:05,733 --> 00:57:08,293
Speaker 18: inception of Guy Forky was doing this thing back and then,

1174
00:57:08,653 --> 00:57:10,172
Speaker 18: so you know it's there every year. We've just had

1175
00:57:10,213 --> 00:57:13,213
Speaker 18: Duali celebrations in Pami. This weekend just gone and again

1176
00:57:13,693 --> 00:57:14,253
Speaker 18: I like.

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00:57:15,613 --> 00:57:17,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, I can do it for those days. But

1178
00:57:17,533 --> 00:57:20,493
Speaker 3: the problem I have is for the next three months,

1179
00:57:20,733 --> 00:57:23,653
Speaker 3: maybe longer, they're going to go off intermittently, and I

1180
00:57:23,653 --> 00:57:24,573
Speaker 3: don't know, And you.

1181
00:57:24,573 --> 00:57:26,413
Speaker 18: Know that every year, though you know it's going to

1182
00:57:26,413 --> 00:57:28,293
Speaker 18: be that way. People do stop puld them, people do

1183
00:57:28,373 --> 00:57:31,053
Speaker 18: put them aside from New Years. That's how people, that's

1184
00:57:31,053 --> 00:57:34,253
Speaker 18: how society operates. And it's called fun, whether you like

1185
00:57:34,293 --> 00:57:35,533
Speaker 18: it or not. And I used to work with a

1186
00:57:35,573 --> 00:57:38,173
Speaker 18: guy that got a Roman candle in his eye yea,

1187
00:57:38,533 --> 00:57:40,333
Speaker 18: literally just below his eyeball. He turned up to work

1188
00:57:40,333 --> 00:57:42,213
Speaker 18: on the Monday with thought else you get into a scuffle.

1189
00:57:42,253 --> 00:57:45,293
Speaker 18: He's like picking around with Roman candles. He could have

1190
00:57:45,293 --> 00:57:47,213
Speaker 18: been blind. He could have, but he didn't. Some people

1191
00:57:47,213 --> 00:57:47,813
Speaker 18: have died for them.

1192
00:57:47,893 --> 00:57:50,013
Speaker 2: Well sure. And I was at a thing once in

1193
00:57:50,053 --> 00:57:53,733
Speaker 2: this idiot friend of mine put a candle on his pants,

1194
00:57:53,773 --> 00:57:56,653
Speaker 2: got it around the wrong way and blasted up his backside.

1195
00:57:56,813 --> 00:57:59,933
Speaker 2: And that was stupid. That was stupid.

1196
00:57:59,933 --> 00:58:02,933
Speaker 18: He never did it again. He never did it again.

1197
00:58:03,013 --> 00:58:04,173
Speaker 18: But I think it's called eleven.

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00:58:04,533 --> 00:58:06,253
Speaker 2: I think there's a wider point for that, Sean. So

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00:58:06,373 --> 00:58:08,693
Speaker 2: I love near Eden Park and when there's an that

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00:58:08,733 --> 00:58:11,213
Speaker 2: I'm not going to Like Travis Scott the other day,

1201
00:58:11,693 --> 00:58:13,293
Speaker 2: there was a lot of people that complained about the noise.

1202
00:58:13,293 --> 00:58:15,413
Speaker 2: I don't complain about the noise. I think that is

1203
00:58:15,493 --> 00:58:18,773
Speaker 2: fifty thousand people having a great time and we're living

1204
00:58:18,813 --> 00:58:21,933
Speaker 2: in a society is about being inconvenienced by other people,

1205
00:58:22,053 --> 00:58:26,493
Speaker 2: and I think being inconvenienced by other people is worthwhile

1206
00:58:26,813 --> 00:58:29,533
Speaker 2: if a certain amount of humanity is having a good time.

1207
00:58:29,893 --> 00:58:32,133
Speaker 2: And so I hear that noise, and I'm full of

1208
00:58:32,293 --> 00:58:35,013
Speaker 2: joy that we're living in a society where people can

1209
00:58:35,053 --> 00:58:36,973
Speaker 2: go along to a constant people can get together and

1210
00:58:37,013 --> 00:58:39,173
Speaker 2: have a good time. And I have the same feeling

1211
00:58:39,493 --> 00:58:43,493
Speaker 2: largely over fireworks. There's people having fun together, and it

1212
00:58:43,613 --> 00:58:46,093
Speaker 2: may inconvenience me a little bit, it might scare my dog,

1213
00:58:46,493 --> 00:58:49,773
Speaker 2: but overall the good of humanity is raised.

1214
00:58:49,893 --> 00:58:51,893
Speaker 3: But ononders, if you had a neighbor who just loved

1215
00:58:51,893 --> 00:58:54,093
Speaker 3: to go out in the backyard and just start screaming

1216
00:58:54,213 --> 00:58:56,613
Speaker 3: for hours at a time as loud as he could.

1217
00:58:56,853 --> 00:58:59,933
Speaker 3: He loved that. That was his favorite pastime, and you'd say,

1218
00:58:59,933 --> 00:59:02,773
Speaker 3: honestly that, hey, he's having fun. Oh let him be,

1219
00:59:02,893 --> 00:59:09,333
Speaker 3: he's all good. Twenty four to seven. Yeah, well, that's

1220
00:59:09,373 --> 00:59:11,573
Speaker 3: probably what you call a straw man there, No, sean,

1221
00:59:11,653 --> 00:59:12,533
Speaker 3: thank you very much.

1222
00:59:12,853 --> 00:59:16,653
Speaker 2: I think that might become problem, screaming in the neighbors.

1223
00:59:16,773 --> 00:59:19,053
Speaker 18: Yeah, we already, we already fanned them to the degree

1224
00:59:19,093 --> 00:59:20,693
Speaker 18: of okay, you can buy them between the second and

1225
00:59:20,733 --> 00:59:23,573
Speaker 18: the fifth. After so many complaints over the years, how

1226
00:59:23,653 --> 00:59:25,413
Speaker 18: much further do you take it to restrict it?

1227
00:59:25,613 --> 00:59:29,813
Speaker 2: Yes, i'd say to my name like, I'll give you

1228
00:59:29,853 --> 00:59:30,613
Speaker 2: a few days a year.

1229
00:59:30,653 --> 00:59:35,453
Speaker 3: You can scream, hey, good discussion. Really enjoyed that they

1230
00:59:35,453 --> 00:59:37,973
Speaker 3: aren't going to be banned. Well, not this year anyway,

1231
00:59:38,493 --> 00:59:39,213
Speaker 3: will be eventually.

1232
00:59:39,293 --> 00:59:41,813
Speaker 2: The way people are going, they just tighten.

1233
00:59:41,533 --> 00:59:44,093
Speaker 3: Their grip tighter and tighter and take and take and take.

1234
00:59:44,253 --> 00:59:47,493
Speaker 3: This conversation will keep happening. But thank you very much.

1235
00:59:47,573 --> 00:59:49,893
Speaker 3: Right after the headlines, we are going to change tech

1236
00:59:50,373 --> 00:59:53,013
Speaker 3: and change up. We're going to stay with animals. But

1237
00:59:53,053 --> 00:59:58,133
Speaker 3: a story today the government we're looking at needing to

1238
00:59:58,173 --> 01:00:01,533
Speaker 3: register cats and micro chipping them and d sixing them.

1239
01:00:01,773 --> 01:00:04,213
Speaker 3: They've now turned away from that idea. But we're going

1240
01:00:04,253 --> 01:00:06,413
Speaker 3: to have a chat about that very shortly. It is

1241
01:00:06,533 --> 01:00:07,813
Speaker 3: twenty nine minutes to three.

1242
01:00:07,893 --> 01:00:14,573
Speaker 4: Back in the Oh, Deuce talks at the headlines.

1243
01:00:14,053 --> 01:00:17,253
Speaker 14: With blue bubble taxis it's no trouble with a blue bubble.

1244
01:00:17,693 --> 01:00:20,693
Speaker 14: A nursing union says there still isn't enough support for

1245
01:00:20,733 --> 01:00:23,493
Speaker 14: the mental health sector, with a six hundred and fifty

1246
01:00:23,533 --> 01:00:27,733
Speaker 14: six strong shortage of workers country wide. The nurse's organization

1247
01:00:27,893 --> 01:00:30,853
Speaker 14: says changes like police pulling away from mental health call

1248
01:00:30,853 --> 01:00:36,253
Speaker 14: outs strain workers more. Auckland police are investigating a deliberately

1249
01:00:36,333 --> 01:00:39,293
Speaker 14: lit fire at a Newlyn mosque. Aire still looking into

1250
01:00:39,333 --> 01:00:41,933
Speaker 14: a possible motive and cannot say at this point if

1251
01:00:41,933 --> 01:00:46,333
Speaker 14: it's a hate related crime. The governments introduce requirements to

1252
01:00:46,373 --> 01:00:50,933
Speaker 14: make government agencies pay invoices within five business days. Digital

1253
01:00:50,933 --> 01:00:55,533
Speaker 14: invoices will also be required from January. Labour's leader has

1254
01:00:55,573 --> 01:00:58,933
Speaker 14: written to the Public Service Commission to complain about Winston

1255
01:00:58,973 --> 01:01:02,373
Speaker 14: Peter's naming a public servant over a conflict of interest.

1256
01:01:02,453 --> 01:01:06,493
Speaker 14: The Health Ministry hasn't disclosed The murder trial over the

1257
01:01:06,493 --> 01:01:09,213
Speaker 14: death of real estate agenty and Faith Bao has been

1258
01:01:09,253 --> 01:01:12,893
Speaker 14: delayed again over legal matters that can't be resolved today.

1259
01:01:13,893 --> 01:01:18,093
Speaker 14: Kee we billionaire to leave minor over profoundly disappointing conduct.

1260
01:01:18,373 --> 01:01:21,373
Speaker 14: You can find out more at Ensen Herald Premium. Back

1261
01:01:21,413 --> 01:01:22,853
Speaker 14: to Matteith and Tyler Adams.

1262
01:01:23,173 --> 01:01:25,333
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen, and thank you for the

1263
01:01:25,453 --> 01:01:28,253
Speaker 3: discussion on the fireworks, but we are going to change

1264
01:01:28,333 --> 01:01:32,133
Speaker 3: up for the next hour or so. A proposal to

1265
01:01:32,293 --> 01:01:36,173
Speaker 3: register microchip in D six cats has been canned by

1266
01:01:36,253 --> 01:01:39,573
Speaker 3: the government. Advocates for a National Cat Acts say there

1267
01:01:39,693 --> 01:01:43,333
Speaker 3: is a crisis of cats and a framework was needed.

1268
01:01:43,333 --> 01:01:46,293
Speaker 3: The SPCA describe the government's decision not to act as

1269
01:01:46,333 --> 01:01:49,933
Speaker 3: a colossal missed opportunity. So that's what we want to

1270
01:01:49,933 --> 01:01:53,613
Speaker 3: have a chat about, is the registering of cats. Obviously,

1271
01:01:53,733 --> 01:01:55,453
Speaker 3: as a dog owner, I know that we have to

1272
01:01:55,573 --> 01:01:58,333
Speaker 3: register Pepper. That's the right thing to do, and if

1273
01:01:58,333 --> 01:02:01,173
Speaker 3: you're a responsible dog owner, you get your dog registered.

1274
01:02:01,493 --> 01:02:04,093
Speaker 3: It's long been a contention about whether we do that

1275
01:02:04,133 --> 01:02:05,853
Speaker 3: for cats. And I think it was Dale that rang

1276
01:02:05,973 --> 01:02:09,533
Speaker 3: up very annoyed that his neighbour's cat jumps over the fence,

1277
01:02:09,893 --> 01:02:12,133
Speaker 3: takes a massive dookie in his garden and he can't

1278
01:02:12,133 --> 01:02:15,373
Speaker 3: do anything about it. Now whether registering that cat would

1279
01:02:15,373 --> 01:02:18,213
Speaker 3: make a difference, But I think that's a fair argument

1280
01:02:18,293 --> 01:02:21,373
Speaker 3: that as a pet owner it's only right that I

1281
01:02:21,453 --> 01:02:25,533
Speaker 3: make sure Pepper is registered, that she's microchipped, that all

1282
01:02:25,653 --> 01:02:28,533
Speaker 3: the relevant things I need to do as a responsible

1283
01:02:28,573 --> 01:02:31,693
Speaker 3: dog owner are done. Should that apply to a cat owner?

1284
01:02:32,053 --> 01:02:34,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting thing. I guess you waste way

1285
01:02:34,453 --> 01:02:37,573
Speaker 2: up our cats do it. Does an unregistered cat do

1286
01:02:37,573 --> 01:02:39,773
Speaker 2: as much damage a registered dog?

1287
01:02:40,293 --> 01:02:40,453
Speaker 4: Not?

1288
01:02:40,493 --> 01:02:44,813
Speaker 3: To humans? They do do to birds. There's no doubt

1289
01:02:44,853 --> 01:02:48,733
Speaker 3: about it. They are apex predators, and I mean that

1290
01:02:48,933 --> 01:02:51,493
Speaker 3: is why the u SPCA is concerned. Predator free New

1291
01:02:51,573 --> 01:02:55,213
Speaker 3: Zealand is concerned because as we know, with the wildcats,

1292
01:02:55,493 --> 01:02:57,893
Speaker 3: they have become a problem in the bush and with

1293
01:02:57,893 --> 01:03:02,373
Speaker 3: our native bird species. And I've got to say, back

1294
01:03:02,453 --> 01:03:04,693
Speaker 3: in christ Church where we used to live, we had

1295
01:03:04,773 --> 01:03:08,173
Speaker 3: what was called the Trevis Wetland very close to residential properties.

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01:03:08,453 --> 01:03:11,333
Speaker 3: Allowed dogs in there for good reason because there's native

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01:03:11,373 --> 01:03:14,093
Speaker 3: birds and they're flightless birds. Having dogs in there would

1298
01:03:14,093 --> 01:03:18,573
Speaker 3: be crazy cats. However, that's like a buffet to them. Absolutely,

1299
01:03:18,693 --> 01:03:20,813
Speaker 3: they go nuts in the Travis Wheatland and there's nothing

1300
01:03:20,853 --> 01:03:21,893
Speaker 3: anybody can do about that.

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01:03:23,053 --> 01:03:25,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting one. I've always been a dog person,

1302
01:03:25,973 --> 01:03:29,853
Speaker 2: always had a dog. Love my dog, Colin good Dog

1303
01:03:29,973 --> 01:03:34,413
Speaker 2: or Colin good Boy, Love my dog Monty for Colin.

1304
01:03:35,373 --> 01:03:37,893
Speaker 2: Never been a sort of a cat person, although you know,

1305
01:03:38,293 --> 01:03:40,093
Speaker 2: I've got a lot of time for a cat. But

1306
01:03:40,213 --> 01:03:44,653
Speaker 2: I just I just think that a dog, Yeah, I

1307
01:03:44,653 --> 01:03:51,173
Speaker 2: think practically. I mean cats are in New Zealand. They're

1308
01:03:51,213 --> 01:03:54,493
Speaker 2: not like this overseas, but cats are free range here, right, Yeah,

1309
01:03:54,533 --> 01:03:57,253
Speaker 2: so dogs aren't. Yeah, dogs aren't.

1310
01:03:57,013 --> 01:04:00,293
Speaker 3: And that's for good reason. Yeah, Well, responsible dog owners

1311
01:04:00,293 --> 01:04:01,373
Speaker 3: don't have free roaming dogs.

1312
01:04:01,493 --> 01:04:03,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you have a bunch of dogs that

1313
01:04:03,413 --> 01:04:05,813
Speaker 2: get out, they'll join it, they'll form a pack. So

1314
01:04:05,853 --> 01:04:08,013
Speaker 2: a bunch of wild dogs. It's not a nice Herey

1315
01:04:08,093 --> 01:04:12,533
Speaker 2: mcle very type situation. Going down to Donaldson's theory, dogs

1316
01:04:12,533 --> 01:04:16,013
Speaker 2: will form a pat and cause all kinds of harm,

1317
01:04:16,853 --> 01:04:21,653
Speaker 2: whereas cats walking over fences. I don't know. I don't

1318
01:04:21,653 --> 01:04:24,773
Speaker 2: think it's the same level of risk to the community anyway.

1319
01:04:24,973 --> 01:04:27,533
Speaker 2: But yeah, as you say, it is a huge risk

1320
01:04:27,573 --> 01:04:28,333
Speaker 2: to native birds.

1321
01:04:28,493 --> 01:04:32,093
Speaker 3: Yeah. So one of the petitioners to change this legislation

1322
01:04:32,133 --> 01:04:34,013
Speaker 3: and the government have said no, not at this time.

1323
01:04:34,013 --> 01:04:36,693
Speaker 3: But her name's Erica Rowlands, and she said cats cause

1324
01:04:36,773 --> 01:04:39,453
Speaker 3: a problem for native species and rescue groups faced a

1325
01:04:39,573 --> 01:04:43,733
Speaker 3: relentless battle against the effects of irresponsible owners. That sentiment

1326
01:04:43,813 --> 01:04:48,213
Speaker 3: was shared by Predator Free New Zealand chief executive Jesse Morgan.

1327
01:04:48,293 --> 01:04:51,573
Speaker 3: She said conservationalists and animal welfare groups are all on

1328
01:04:51,613 --> 01:04:53,813
Speaker 3: the same page and are crying out for a national

1329
01:04:54,173 --> 01:04:57,493
Speaker 3: Cat Act. So oh, eight one hundred eighty ten eighty.

1330
01:04:57,653 --> 01:05:00,093
Speaker 3: If you are a cat owner, how do you feel

1331
01:05:00,133 --> 01:05:02,413
Speaker 3: about registering your cat? Is it a good idea or

1332
01:05:02,453 --> 01:05:04,493
Speaker 3: does it go too far? And I think it's a

1333
01:05:04,493 --> 01:05:07,213
Speaker 3: fair point. When it comes to danger to human beings.

1334
01:05:07,253 --> 01:05:09,053
Speaker 3: Cats are not at the same time level dogs, no

1335
01:05:09,093 --> 01:05:12,733
Speaker 3: doubt about it. But when we look at our native species,

1336
01:05:13,453 --> 01:05:16,053
Speaker 3: then I think that's that's a stronger argument to be made.

1337
01:05:16,133 --> 01:05:18,013
Speaker 2: And you might be a dog owner and think why

1338
01:05:18,013 --> 01:05:22,293
Speaker 2: am I having to pay this dog registration when cat

1339
01:05:22,333 --> 01:05:24,373
Speaker 2: owners are just getting away scott free.

1340
01:05:24,453 --> 01:05:27,413
Speaker 3: Yeah. But I'll tell you what if Pepper. I used

1341
01:05:27,453 --> 01:05:29,453
Speaker 3: to love hiking, and well I still do, but I

1342
01:05:29,453 --> 01:05:31,333
Speaker 3: haven't got out for a long time, and I wanted

1343
01:05:31,373 --> 01:05:33,653
Speaker 3: to take people with me. But if I take Pepper

1344
01:05:33,693 --> 01:05:36,213
Speaker 3: into an area that there's kiwi, and if Pepper got

1345
01:05:36,213 --> 01:05:38,613
Speaker 3: a kiwi, I would be in a whole lot of

1346
01:05:38,613 --> 01:05:40,773
Speaker 3: trouble and people would probably be put down. That's the

1347
01:05:40,893 --> 01:05:43,853
Speaker 3: right thing. If a cat does that, you can't trace

1348
01:05:43,893 --> 01:05:45,733
Speaker 3: it back, can you. I mean maybe the cat. If

1349
01:05:45,733 --> 01:05:47,453
Speaker 3: they catch the cat, it's probably going to be put down,

1350
01:05:47,733 --> 01:05:49,333
Speaker 3: but the owner is not held responsible.

1351
01:05:50,013 --> 01:05:51,653
Speaker 2: But when was the last person that got mauled by

1352
01:05:51,653 --> 01:05:52,013
Speaker 2: a cat?

1353
01:05:54,613 --> 01:05:56,493
Speaker 3: Me when I was a child. I mean, that's about

1354
01:05:56,493 --> 01:05:57,733
Speaker 3: why I don't have cats anymore.

1355
01:05:57,813 --> 01:05:59,373
Speaker 2: But actually I got a pretty good I still got

1356
01:05:59,373 --> 01:06:01,573
Speaker 2: a scar from my cat Peterkin when I was a kid.

1357
01:06:01,693 --> 01:06:04,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't hold back, no, you know, considering that

1358
01:06:05,013 --> 01:06:07,533
Speaker 3: about one tenth out size, they'll try and take you down.

1359
01:06:07,653 --> 01:06:09,613
Speaker 2: Yeah. Bit of a shir at the moment with my cat,

1360
01:06:09,693 --> 01:06:12,813
Speaker 2: my dog chasing other people's cats, But that's creating a

1361
01:06:12,853 --> 01:06:15,773
Speaker 2: side issue. But yeah, I'll tell you what, I'm not

1362
01:06:15,853 --> 01:06:18,573
Speaker 2: sure it would seem to me my gut feelings, it

1363
01:06:18,573 --> 01:06:21,933
Speaker 2: seems ridiculous to go through and register cats. There's too

1364
01:06:22,013 --> 01:06:24,693
Speaker 2: many of them. They don't really do enough damage to

1365
01:06:25,093 --> 01:06:27,893
Speaker 2: society and other humans for me really to think that

1366
01:06:27,933 --> 01:06:29,853
Speaker 2: we should go through all that, And it just seems

1367
01:06:29,893 --> 01:06:31,253
Speaker 2: incredibly impractical to me.

1368
01:06:31,613 --> 01:06:33,253
Speaker 3: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1369
01:06:33,333 --> 01:06:34,813
Speaker 3: number to call. It's twenty to three.

1370
01:06:36,133 --> 01:06:38,573
Speaker 4: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1371
01:06:38,613 --> 01:06:39,213
Speaker 4: along the way.

1372
01:06:39,413 --> 01:06:42,973
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty

1373
01:06:42,973 --> 01:06:44,333
Speaker 1: four Youth Talk said, be.

1374
01:06:45,213 --> 01:06:47,573
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. So the government has decided

1375
01:06:47,613 --> 01:06:51,293
Speaker 3: against mandating the registration and dsexing of cats, in spite

1376
01:06:51,653 --> 01:06:54,573
Speaker 3: of a recommendation made by the Environments that Elect Committee

1377
01:06:54,573 --> 01:06:57,573
Speaker 3: and calls by the SBCA Predator Free New Zealand and

1378
01:06:57,693 --> 01:07:01,453
Speaker 3: the Veterinarian Association is at the right call James, how

1379
01:07:01,453 --> 01:07:01,973
Speaker 3: are you.

1380
01:07:02,053 --> 01:07:05,733
Speaker 19: Yeah, Yeah, I think it's a good idea. I'm a

1381
01:07:05,773 --> 01:07:10,693
Speaker 19: former cat owner myself. My last cat disappeared on me

1382
01:07:10,773 --> 01:07:13,493
Speaker 19: about four or five years ago, and I never replaced him.

1383
01:07:13,813 --> 01:07:17,493
Speaker 19: I've always I've always made sure that my cats were

1384
01:07:17,813 --> 01:07:23,173
Speaker 19: d six. I never chipped them. I suppose I should have,

1385
01:07:23,253 --> 01:07:25,173
Speaker 19: but I might have might have saved me a lot

1386
01:07:25,213 --> 01:07:29,133
Speaker 19: of worry when my cat disappeared on me. But they

1387
01:07:29,173 --> 01:07:31,373
Speaker 19: see me should be registered and.

1388
01:07:32,853 --> 01:07:36,973
Speaker 3: You know the sixt you would have a kin to

1389
01:07:37,333 --> 01:07:40,013
Speaker 3: how we treat dogs that you register that you micro

1390
01:07:40,173 --> 01:07:43,213
Speaker 3: chip them. Ideally you do desext them.

1391
01:07:43,493 --> 01:07:46,133
Speaker 19: Yeah, ideally you do de st them. I did have

1392
01:07:46,253 --> 01:07:49,133
Speaker 19: one female cat that I did allowed to have a

1393
01:07:49,173 --> 01:07:51,573
Speaker 19: couple of batches of kittens, but after that I had

1394
01:07:51,613 --> 01:07:54,573
Speaker 19: got it done, you know, and I made sure the

1395
01:07:54,933 --> 01:07:56,853
Speaker 19: kittens went went to decent homes.

1396
01:07:58,653 --> 01:07:59,213
Speaker 20: Yeah, but.

1397
01:08:00,853 --> 01:08:03,893
Speaker 19: You know, they should definitely should be controlled. I mean,

1398
01:08:04,493 --> 01:08:07,773
Speaker 19: like they say, they they're far more a danger to

1399
01:08:07,853 --> 01:08:14,933
Speaker 19: the native wildlife and New Zealand the dogs are. I think.

1400
01:08:15,333 --> 01:08:17,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you've got a problem with dotter or

1401
01:08:17,452 --> 01:08:20,173
Speaker 3: was mad, But surely someone's got to think about the

1402
01:08:20,253 --> 01:08:22,093
Speaker 3: native boods. But that is a fair point. I mean, look,

1403
01:08:22,093 --> 01:08:25,333
Speaker 3: I get when you mention feral cats and cats. A

1404
01:08:25,372 --> 01:08:27,892
Speaker 3: lot of cat owners get really upset when you say,

1405
01:08:27,893 --> 01:08:31,852
Speaker 3: how dare you talk bad about my beautiful little pussy cat? Yeah,

1406
01:08:31,853 --> 01:08:34,573
Speaker 3: because it does nobody wrong and it's just a fluffy

1407
01:08:34,572 --> 01:08:37,612
Speaker 3: companion animal. But they are apex predators and they do

1408
01:08:37,732 --> 01:08:39,293
Speaker 3: take down birds pretty quickly.

1409
01:08:39,492 --> 01:08:41,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I guess it's one of those same things.

1410
01:08:41,253 --> 01:08:43,892
Speaker 2: If you're the type of person that would allow cats

1411
01:08:43,933 --> 01:08:46,652
Speaker 2: to breed and then just let the cats run free,

1412
01:08:46,853 --> 01:08:48,852
Speaker 2: then you're also the exact type of person that's not

1413
01:08:48,893 --> 01:08:51,093
Speaker 2: going to get that cat registered, which has been the

1414
01:08:51,093 --> 01:08:53,532
Speaker 2: problem with dogs, isn't it as well the people that

1415
01:08:53,612 --> 01:08:55,532
Speaker 2: are bound to not look after their dogs and the

1416
01:08:55,572 --> 01:08:57,253
Speaker 2: way they should, or also the people that don't get

1417
01:08:57,293 --> 01:09:01,412
Speaker 2: the dogs registered. I don't know where I sit on

1418
01:09:01,692 --> 01:09:03,772
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's I think it's one

1419
01:09:03,812 --> 01:09:07,812
Speaker 2: of those things. Just with cats. It's impractical. Cats aren't

1420
01:09:07,812 --> 01:09:13,932
Speaker 2: as depending on humans as humans are as cats aren't

1421
01:09:13,933 --> 01:09:16,852
Speaker 2: as dependent on humans as dogs are on their human owner.

1422
01:09:17,093 --> 01:09:19,772
Speaker 2: Very true, and dogs could do more damage to other

1423
01:09:19,853 --> 01:09:23,333
Speaker 2: humans out there, and it's actually way more obvious when

1424
01:09:23,333 --> 01:09:26,372
Speaker 2: a dog is free range as well. I mean there's

1425
01:09:26,412 --> 01:09:28,892
Speaker 2: cats that climb all my fence all the time and

1426
01:09:28,973 --> 01:09:32,612
Speaker 2: drive My dog Racy runs out bikes them, but tries

1427
01:09:32,652 --> 01:09:34,452
Speaker 2: to bark at them. He could never catch a cat

1428
01:09:34,732 --> 01:09:36,372
Speaker 2: and the one time he did catch up, he got

1429
01:09:36,372 --> 01:09:40,852
Speaker 2: a real good swipe across the nose. But it's it's

1430
01:09:40,973 --> 01:09:43,612
Speaker 2: very different because if I saw that many dogs roaming around,

1431
01:09:44,133 --> 01:09:46,852
Speaker 2: walking all over my property, I would it would be

1432
01:09:46,853 --> 01:09:48,372
Speaker 2: a major major issue, wouldn't it.

1433
01:09:48,452 --> 01:09:51,052
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well this takes has just come through. Where

1434
01:09:51,093 --> 01:09:55,052
Speaker 3: is it going to stop? What should we register budgies rabbits? Wow,

1435
01:09:55,372 --> 01:09:57,532
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if budgies can take down

1436
01:09:57,572 --> 01:10:00,573
Speaker 3: a key. We maybe, you know, budgy.

1437
01:10:00,812 --> 01:10:03,452
Speaker 2: Register all the bunnies in the South Island.

1438
01:10:04,173 --> 01:10:06,572
Speaker 3: James, how are you good?

1439
01:10:06,692 --> 01:10:07,093
Speaker 22: Good things?

1440
01:10:07,893 --> 01:10:08,932
Speaker 3: Cat? What do you reckon?

1441
01:10:10,293 --> 01:10:10,612
Speaker 4: Well?

1442
01:10:11,253 --> 01:10:15,012
Speaker 22: Think I've got in my place get probably about six

1443
01:10:15,412 --> 01:10:19,612
Speaker 22: to ten kits just about every day walking around and

1444
01:10:19,652 --> 01:10:22,933
Speaker 22: you know, doing their jobs in the gardens. And I

1445
01:10:22,933 --> 01:10:26,892
Speaker 22: think there was one lady I minister to think that

1446
01:10:27,372 --> 01:10:30,732
Speaker 22: was here kit And I said, you know, I don't know,

1447
01:10:30,853 --> 01:10:34,133
Speaker 22: but you know this is what happens. Of course, I

1448
01:10:34,213 --> 01:10:37,532
Speaker 22: have to go into my garden and it's not the nicest.

1449
01:10:37,612 --> 01:10:39,612
Speaker 22: The smell is sol it's bad.

1450
01:10:39,772 --> 01:10:40,253
Speaker 13: It's bad.

1451
01:10:40,572 --> 01:10:40,852
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1452
01:10:41,492 --> 01:10:44,492
Speaker 22: So I mean, look, they're going to take some responsibility,

1453
01:10:45,973 --> 01:10:49,213
Speaker 22: So I reckon they should be registered. If you've got

1454
01:10:49,253 --> 01:10:53,652
Speaker 22: a pet, you've got to be you know, look take

1455
01:10:53,732 --> 01:10:54,372
Speaker 22: unership of it.

1456
01:10:54,732 --> 01:10:58,053
Speaker 2: In the story, Yeah, yeah, And I think that's one

1457
01:10:58,133 --> 01:11:00,253
Speaker 2: hundred percent true. I think if you do have a pet,

1458
01:11:00,333 --> 01:11:03,692
Speaker 2: you absolutely have an obligation to take care of it.

1459
01:11:04,253 --> 01:11:06,452
Speaker 2: But I'm just not sure it's practical around cats in

1460
01:11:06,532 --> 01:11:10,732
Speaker 2: terms of registering them. And look, I'm struggling to pick

1461
01:11:10,812 --> 01:11:13,572
Speaker 2: piece the bits together why I think that, and maybe

1462
01:11:13,572 --> 01:11:16,053
Speaker 2: someone can help me out here on eight hundred and

1463
01:11:16,053 --> 01:11:18,972
Speaker 2: eighteen eighty. But why is it so different registering cats

1464
01:11:18,973 --> 01:11:22,693
Speaker 2: to dogs, Because in my mind it's way more difficult

1465
01:11:23,213 --> 01:11:25,972
Speaker 2: and the gains from it aren't quite quite the same.

1466
01:11:26,173 --> 01:11:30,812
Speaker 3: Yep. So I'm walking past your property and I've got

1467
01:11:30,812 --> 01:11:33,333
Speaker 3: Pepper on a lead, and you've got a nice berm

1468
01:11:33,333 --> 01:11:35,372
Speaker 3: there that you love, and look after it's got a

1469
01:11:35,412 --> 01:11:37,812
Speaker 3: nice pood of car on it, and she takes a

1470
01:11:37,853 --> 01:11:40,772
Speaker 3: massive number two on your berm, and you see me yep,

1471
01:11:40,933 --> 01:11:42,452
Speaker 3: you're going to yell at me and say, excuse me,

1472
01:11:42,893 --> 01:11:45,253
Speaker 3: can you pick that up? If a cat does that

1473
01:11:45,973 --> 01:11:48,372
Speaker 3: or six cats in James's case, Yeah, I think the

1474
01:11:48,372 --> 01:11:50,213
Speaker 3: neighbor should be going over there, the owners should be

1475
01:11:50,213 --> 01:11:51,892
Speaker 3: going over there and picking up the cat dropping one.

1476
01:11:51,812 --> 01:11:55,132
Speaker 2: Hundred percent agree. Yeah, absolutely, there is absolutely no difference,

1477
01:11:55,173 --> 01:11:58,092
Speaker 2: and of anything, I think cat leaving the more disgusting

1478
01:11:58,093 --> 01:12:01,612
Speaker 2: than dog leavings. Yeah, potentially not as big, but there's

1479
01:12:01,732 --> 01:12:03,772
Speaker 2: nothing grosser than a cat leaving. But I'm just thinking

1480
01:12:03,772 --> 01:12:06,732
Speaker 2: about the impracticality of it. So you go, because the

1481
01:12:06,772 --> 01:12:08,293
Speaker 2: cat is going to walk past, not on a leaf.

1482
01:12:08,492 --> 01:12:10,252
Speaker 2: The cat is just going to be walking around the neighborhood,

1483
01:12:10,293 --> 01:12:11,892
Speaker 2: could be anywhere. You don't know whose cat it is.

1484
01:12:13,093 --> 01:12:15,772
Speaker 2: So do you grab that cat and the cat's chipped

1485
01:12:16,053 --> 01:12:17,892
Speaker 2: and then you take the cat to a cat pound?

1486
01:12:17,933 --> 01:12:20,093
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying? Yeah, And also I would

1487
01:12:20,093 --> 01:12:22,532
Speaker 2: say on the back end of that, good luck trying

1488
01:12:22,572 --> 01:12:25,172
Speaker 2: to catch a cat. I mean the saying hurting cats.

1489
01:12:25,213 --> 01:12:28,612
Speaker 2: So even if you see a cat commit a crime

1490
01:12:28,692 --> 01:12:30,812
Speaker 2: on your bom, you're going to run out there, You're

1491
01:12:30,812 --> 01:12:33,372
Speaker 2: gonna grab the cat. You're gonna You're not gonna be

1492
01:12:33,372 --> 01:12:34,133
Speaker 2: able to catch that cat.

1493
01:12:34,532 --> 01:12:36,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's a good point. I mean this takes

1494
01:12:36,253 --> 01:12:38,572
Speaker 3: to here. What's registering your cat going to do for

1495
01:12:38,612 --> 01:12:40,692
Speaker 3: the birds? Does the bird get to ask the cat

1496
01:12:40,732 --> 01:12:44,492
Speaker 3: for its registration prior to being eaten? A great text,

1497
01:12:44,812 --> 01:12:48,372
Speaker 3: very funny. But what Predator free in zed was saying

1498
01:12:48,372 --> 01:12:50,932
Speaker 3: about registering your cat is that if a cat, if

1499
01:12:50,973 --> 01:12:52,692
Speaker 3: you can catch a cat, not to manny people can,

1500
01:12:52,772 --> 01:12:55,333
Speaker 3: but if you catch it, it's got a microchip, it's registered,

1501
01:12:55,572 --> 01:12:57,532
Speaker 3: and it's killed a bird, then they can trace it

1502
01:12:57,692 --> 01:12:59,452
Speaker 3: back to the owner and sign the owner.

1503
01:12:59,612 --> 01:13:01,492
Speaker 2: So if you grab a cat and it's not registered,

1504
01:13:01,492 --> 01:13:02,892
Speaker 2: what do you do? Do you take the cat somewhere

1505
01:13:02,933 --> 01:13:06,333
Speaker 2: to get euthanized and then it turns out that someone

1506
01:13:06,372 --> 01:13:09,373
Speaker 2: loved their cat very much but they didn't get it registered.

1507
01:13:09,452 --> 01:13:12,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, potentially, potentially. That's why it's so controversial. Oh eight

1508
01:13:12,973 --> 01:13:15,572
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It

1509
01:13:15,652 --> 01:13:16,572
Speaker 3: is eleven to three.

1510
01:13:18,612 --> 01:13:21,053
Speaker 4: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1511
01:13:21,093 --> 01:13:21,732
Speaker 4: along the way.

1512
01:13:21,933 --> 01:13:25,813
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty.

1513
01:13:25,492 --> 01:13:26,772
Speaker 4: Four you talk zed B.

1514
01:13:28,492 --> 01:13:31,372
Speaker 3: News Talk zed B. We are talking about registering cats.

1515
01:13:31,412 --> 01:13:33,732
Speaker 3: The government have said no at this point in time.

1516
01:13:34,013 --> 01:13:37,053
Speaker 3: It has upset Predator free New Zealand and the SPCA.

1517
01:13:37,213 --> 01:13:40,532
Speaker 3: They say it's a colossal mistake. What do you say, Oh,

1518
01:13:40,532 --> 01:13:42,212
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1519
01:13:42,093 --> 01:13:45,372
Speaker 2: Got sixty nine two nine two guys? Registering cats is dumb.

1520
01:13:45,412 --> 01:13:47,372
Speaker 2: I have never been in fear of my safety from

1521
01:13:47,412 --> 01:13:50,293
Speaker 2: a roaming cat. Plenty of mouthy dogs whose owner say

1522
01:13:50,293 --> 01:13:53,012
Speaker 2: he's very friendly. Dogs are registered as a safety device,

1523
01:13:53,013 --> 01:13:57,093
Speaker 2: as dogs are dangerous to humans. Cats are not desext Yes,

1524
01:13:57,213 --> 01:13:58,892
Speaker 2: Michael chipped, Yes, registered?

1525
01:13:58,973 --> 01:13:59,053
Speaker 23: No?

1526
01:13:59,612 --> 01:14:00,412
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1527
01:14:00,452 --> 01:14:03,892
Speaker 3: Well, Darcy Watergrave Sports Talk Coast just came in. He's

1528
01:14:03,933 --> 01:14:06,452
Speaker 3: a massive cat owner. He gets upset with dogs doing

1529
01:14:06,572 --> 01:14:09,612
Speaker 3: number two on his front lawn. Says that cats bury

1530
01:14:09,652 --> 01:14:11,973
Speaker 3: their number twos. But he showed us a picture of

1531
01:14:12,013 --> 01:14:15,652
Speaker 3: this massive collar. It looks like a eighteenth century rough

1532
01:14:15,973 --> 01:14:18,092
Speaker 3: that he puts around his cats to try and prevent

1533
01:14:18,093 --> 01:14:18,972
Speaker 3: them from getting birds.

1534
01:14:19,053 --> 01:14:22,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like Percy from black Adder, doesn't It

1535
01:14:22,772 --> 01:14:25,093
Speaker 2: looks like Blackadder too, But it looks like a bird

1536
01:14:25,133 --> 01:14:28,812
Speaker 2: that swallowed a plate. But the thing is, because bowls

1537
01:14:28,853 --> 01:14:30,932
Speaker 2: around the necks of cats, people stopped doing that, didn't

1538
01:14:30,933 --> 01:14:32,933
Speaker 2: they For a long time people have boughs just to

1539
01:14:32,933 --> 01:14:34,972
Speaker 2: stop them catching birds. But I think the bells drive

1540
01:14:35,013 --> 01:14:37,692
Speaker 2: the cat. It's quite cruel to the cat. So Darcy's

1541
01:14:37,732 --> 01:14:40,652
Speaker 2: got the solution of that with that big multicolored thing.

1542
01:14:40,692 --> 01:14:43,012
Speaker 2: So a cat can never get near a bird because

1543
01:14:43,013 --> 01:14:45,973
Speaker 2: it's you know, there's no camouflage, there's no sneaking up

1544
01:14:45,973 --> 01:14:48,173
Speaker 2: on it. So that's an interesting thing. My question for you, though,

1545
01:14:48,213 --> 01:14:50,732
Speaker 2: is what do you gain from registering the cat? What

1546
01:14:51,612 --> 01:14:55,012
Speaker 2: what happens? What's saved? You've brought up birds, I'm not sure,

1547
01:14:55,133 --> 01:14:57,333
Speaker 2: and that's just by keeping the number of cats down

1548
01:14:57,652 --> 01:15:02,293
Speaker 2: and you've bought up defecating on lawns. Darcy also said

1549
01:15:02,333 --> 01:15:04,652
Speaker 2: that cats don't tend to just walk into the middle

1550
01:15:04,652 --> 01:15:07,812
Speaker 2: of a lawn and defecate. He believes that they either

1551
01:15:07,853 --> 01:15:10,732
Speaker 2: bury their they're leavings or do them in secret places.

1552
01:15:10,893 --> 01:15:13,812
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, well. And the argument from Predator Free New

1553
01:15:13,893 --> 01:15:16,173
Speaker 3: Zealand and sbcas that it brings it in line with

1554
01:15:16,333 --> 01:15:19,532
Speaker 3: dogs is that you have a National Cat Act like

1555
01:15:19,572 --> 01:15:22,652
Speaker 3: you have a National Dog Act, so that there is

1556
01:15:22,692 --> 01:15:24,892
Speaker 3: some tie in to owners because at the moment you've

1557
01:15:24,933 --> 01:15:27,173
Speaker 3: got no idea who a cat belongs to and if

1558
01:15:27,213 --> 01:15:30,612
Speaker 3: they are going to town on the native purd population. Yeah,

1559
01:15:30,652 --> 01:15:32,732
Speaker 3: nothing you can really do. And even if you do

1560
01:15:32,893 --> 01:15:35,612
Speaker 3: know who owns that cat, there's no legislation there to

1561
01:15:35,652 --> 01:15:37,973
Speaker 3: say that you can find that person if they have

1562
01:15:38,133 --> 01:15:40,893
Speaker 3: been killing I don't know. Let's say a couple of

1563
01:15:40,933 --> 01:15:43,612
Speaker 3: Kiwi and they find that cat and say, hey, this

1564
01:15:43,692 --> 01:15:45,612
Speaker 3: is your cat. It killed a couple of Kiwi. There's

1565
01:15:45,612 --> 01:15:47,333
Speaker 3: not much they can do in that situation at the

1566
01:15:47,333 --> 01:15:48,972
Speaker 3: moment because the legislation doesn't exist.

1567
01:15:49,173 --> 01:15:51,972
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so. But is the feral cat situation

1568
01:15:52,093 --> 01:15:56,053
Speaker 2: coming from people that love and look after their cats

1569
01:15:56,133 --> 01:15:58,173
Speaker 2: or from people that don't care about their cats and

1570
01:15:58,173 --> 01:16:00,372
Speaker 2: are bad pet owners and wouldn't get them registered anyway?

1571
01:16:00,772 --> 01:16:00,972
Speaker 20: Yeah?

1572
01:16:01,013 --> 01:16:01,932
Speaker 3: Good point, Blair.

1573
01:16:01,973 --> 01:16:03,972
Speaker 7: How are you hello?

1574
01:16:04,093 --> 01:16:04,492
Speaker 24: Guys?

1575
01:16:05,532 --> 01:16:08,652
Speaker 7: Like, what a stupid conversation. You can't register it cat?

1576
01:16:09,173 --> 01:16:12,173
Speaker 7: The government's pulled the government's pulled back on it because

1577
01:16:13,053 --> 01:16:15,013
Speaker 7: how do you fund it? What's your funding model? How

1578
01:16:15,053 --> 01:16:18,652
Speaker 7: do you how do you enforce this? You know, it's

1579
01:16:18,732 --> 01:16:22,052
Speaker 7: like a cat. I said it in my test message.

1580
01:16:22,093 --> 01:16:24,892
Speaker 7: I won't read out exactly what I said. But cats,

1581
01:16:26,532 --> 01:16:31,732
Speaker 7: they don't care. They're a law into themselves. You know,

1582
01:16:31,812 --> 01:16:34,372
Speaker 7: if you've got a vase on the bench at home,

1583
01:16:34,572 --> 01:16:36,892
Speaker 7: can you say cat don't knock that over you know

1584
01:16:36,933 --> 01:16:37,532
Speaker 7: it's going to go.

1585
01:16:37,532 --> 01:16:41,173
Speaker 3: Over absolute ICs. Yeah, I agree, Yeah, they are.

1586
01:16:41,213 --> 01:16:45,133
Speaker 7: They are a holes. Registering a cat is not going

1587
01:16:45,173 --> 01:16:48,253
Speaker 7: to stop at crapping in your veggie patch. I've got

1588
01:16:48,452 --> 01:16:50,973
Speaker 7: a neighborhood cat that keeps shotting them the dahlias. At

1589
01:16:51,013 --> 01:16:55,252
Speaker 7: the moment, I can't do much about it. But seriously,

1590
01:16:56,692 --> 01:16:58,572
Speaker 7: what are they supposed to wear a little tag around

1591
01:16:58,572 --> 01:16:59,772
Speaker 7: their neck? How do we do this?

1592
01:16:59,973 --> 01:17:02,013
Speaker 3: But it's on your point on the funding, and I

1593
01:17:02,013 --> 01:17:03,972
Speaker 3: get where you're coming from, Leir, but I mean it's

1594
01:17:04,013 --> 01:17:06,333
Speaker 3: it's money for nothing for the government. Really, is that

1595
01:17:06,412 --> 01:17:09,253
Speaker 3: they set up a cat register? Yeah, I mean like

1596
01:17:09,532 --> 01:17:12,932
Speaker 3: a dog register. You know, nobody really will come knocking

1597
01:17:12,973 --> 01:17:14,452
Speaker 3: on your door and saying, hey, we know you've got

1598
01:17:14,452 --> 01:17:17,132
Speaker 3: a dog. Is it registered in microaship? That doesn't happen.

1599
01:17:17,293 --> 01:17:19,612
Speaker 3: But responsible dog owners will do that. But not all

1600
01:17:19,652 --> 01:17:21,692
Speaker 3: dog owners will do that. And you'd hope if they

1601
01:17:21,772 --> 01:17:25,053
Speaker 3: bought at least fifty percent of cat owners may do

1602
01:17:25,133 --> 01:17:27,772
Speaker 3: it in time. And that's money for nothing for the government.

1603
01:17:28,933 --> 01:17:30,732
Speaker 7: Yeah, but that means you've got fifty percent of the

1604
01:17:30,732 --> 01:17:34,612
Speaker 7: population the cats that aren't registered, you've got you've got

1605
01:17:34,652 --> 01:17:40,372
Speaker 7: half the population registered, you know, and then you've got

1606
01:17:40,452 --> 01:17:43,852
Speaker 7: another fifty percent of the population that aren't registered. That

1607
01:17:44,013 --> 01:17:46,732
Speaker 7: fifty percent of the population are probably not the sect.

1608
01:17:47,093 --> 01:17:48,892
Speaker 7: They're going to go out and do the jiggy thing

1609
01:17:48,933 --> 01:17:52,333
Speaker 7: with a you know, with a girl care or a

1610
01:17:52,333 --> 01:17:55,213
Speaker 7: boycat or whatever, and the population is going to keep going.

1611
01:17:55,572 --> 01:17:58,692
Speaker 7: I'm you know, it's just silly. But the thing is

1612
01:17:59,372 --> 01:18:03,293
Speaker 7: cats catstig holes to That's how I know. They around

1613
01:18:03,333 --> 01:18:07,612
Speaker 7: my daily bolts. You know, they climb trees. If you've

1614
01:18:07,612 --> 01:18:09,452
Speaker 7: got a little color it, you're run the risk of

1615
01:18:09,492 --> 01:18:12,372
Speaker 7: it getting caught in the branch of something and strangling

1616
01:18:12,412 --> 01:18:16,532
Speaker 7: the cat. Yeah, I just I can't see it as

1617
01:18:16,532 --> 01:18:17,252
Speaker 7: being workable.

1618
01:18:17,333 --> 01:18:18,092
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

1619
01:18:18,412 --> 01:18:20,893
Speaker 2: I just think it's it's sort of impractical. In the

1620
01:18:20,933 --> 01:18:23,333
Speaker 2: perfect world that maybe your view would make sense, Tyler,

1621
01:18:23,372 --> 01:18:25,852
Speaker 2: But this text sums up a lot of it. I reckon,

1622
01:18:26,173 --> 01:18:28,413
Speaker 2: dogs have owners, cats have staff.

1623
01:18:28,253 --> 01:18:30,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, jerks, cats, the lot of it. Right, Thank you

1624
01:18:30,893 --> 01:18:33,052
Speaker 3: very much for going out with a bit of thriller.

1625
01:18:34,053 --> 01:18:34,492
Speaker 4: There we go.

1626
01:18:34,572 --> 01:18:38,253
Speaker 2: Here goes another song produced by Quincy Jones, who passed

1627
01:18:38,253 --> 01:18:40,412
Speaker 2: away at ninety one yesterday.

1628
01:18:41,053 --> 01:18:51,372
Speaker 1: Genius talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen Taylor

1629
01:18:51,412 --> 01:18:55,893
Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons New for twenty twenty four News Talk Zibby.

1630
01:18:56,532 --> 01:19:00,813
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, seven past three, Welcome back into the program.

1631
01:19:01,013 --> 01:19:03,812
Speaker 3: Things are getting exciting in Melbourne. If you're a horse

1632
01:19:03,973 --> 01:19:08,133
Speaker 3: racing lover Melbourne Cup underway and our man on the ground,

1633
01:19:08,173 --> 01:19:11,732
Speaker 3: you know, well, guy have vout track side racing presenter

1634
01:19:11,893 --> 01:19:13,572
Speaker 3: and broadcast to get a guy.

1635
01:19:13,933 --> 01:19:16,173
Speaker 20: Yeah good a fellows great to chat to here. Not

1636
01:19:16,293 --> 01:19:18,452
Speaker 20: here in a working capacity. I should just add that

1637
01:19:19,213 --> 01:19:22,772
Speaker 20: here for the color, the fun, the enjoyment and hopefully

1638
01:19:22,853 --> 01:19:25,253
Speaker 20: win a dollar or two as well. It's a beautiful day.

1639
01:19:25,853 --> 01:19:27,213
Speaker 20: It's absolutely jam packed.

1640
01:19:28,133 --> 01:19:32,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, Karwait, well if you're there on a recreational capacity,

1641
01:19:32,973 --> 01:19:33,612
Speaker 2: what are you wearing?

1642
01:19:35,253 --> 01:19:39,412
Speaker 20: I've gone the navy suits with a navy tie with

1643
01:19:39,572 --> 01:19:43,133
Speaker 20: some flowers on it that my wife helped me pick out.

1644
01:19:44,772 --> 01:19:47,012
Speaker 20: I think if I was to enter fashion in the field,

1645
01:19:47,013 --> 01:19:48,093
Speaker 20: I'd probably be a good chance.

1646
01:19:49,093 --> 01:19:50,732
Speaker 2: If this one thing I know about you guys that

1647
01:19:50,772 --> 01:19:53,532
Speaker 2: you know your ponies, who are you betting on?

1648
01:19:55,173 --> 01:19:58,612
Speaker 20: I'm with sharp and smart. I think it's a race

1649
01:19:58,692 --> 01:20:02,452
Speaker 20: that honestly find some value and I think you're a

1650
01:20:02,492 --> 01:20:06,253
Speaker 20: good chance of backing a winner. Like I'll be honest,

1651
01:20:06,293 --> 01:20:08,973
Speaker 20: it's not the strongest field that's ever assembled for a

1652
01:20:09,013 --> 01:20:11,933
Speaker 20: Melbourne Cup. And there are a couple of standouts in

1653
01:20:12,013 --> 01:20:15,372
Speaker 20: vo Ban and Buckaroo, who you'll see at the top

1654
01:20:15,452 --> 01:20:19,452
Speaker 20: of the market. But I vou Ban is vulnerable in

1655
01:20:19,492 --> 01:20:22,972
Speaker 20: the heat and it's getting hotter. Buckeroo's got a terrible drawer.

1656
01:20:23,293 --> 01:20:26,133
Speaker 20: And Sharp and Smart is trained by a Kiwi Well

1657
01:20:26,333 --> 01:20:30,492
Speaker 20: Kiwi partnership and Graham Rogerson and Debbie Rogerson. Graham won

1658
01:20:30,692 --> 01:20:33,093
Speaker 20: the race when he last won the race when he

1659
01:20:33,173 --> 01:20:35,812
Speaker 20: trained Effishent in two thousand and seven, and he comes

1660
01:20:35,853 --> 01:20:38,932
Speaker 20: back with a horse and Sharp and Smart who if

1661
01:20:38,973 --> 01:20:42,652
Speaker 20: he can be as good as he can be, which

1662
01:20:42,732 --> 01:20:44,452
Speaker 20: is probably in his three year old year when he

1663
01:20:44,492 --> 01:20:46,572
Speaker 20: won the Derby, if he can get back to those levels,

1664
01:20:46,893 --> 01:20:49,852
Speaker 20: then he could beat any of these horses. And Graham

1665
01:20:49,933 --> 01:20:52,012
Speaker 20: Rogerson seems to think that he's got him near enough

1666
01:20:52,053 --> 01:20:54,933
Speaker 20: to that level. So I like Sharp and Smart and

1667
01:20:54,973 --> 01:20:56,452
Speaker 20: I got him at seventy one dollars and I think

1668
01:20:56,452 --> 01:20:58,372
Speaker 20: he's in the forty one so I'm raleish ly happy

1669
01:20:58,412 --> 01:20:58,732
Speaker 20: about that.

1670
01:20:59,013 --> 01:21:01,812
Speaker 2: And also blind patriots might go for Covi liquor.

1671
01:21:03,372 --> 01:21:07,173
Speaker 20: Covalika, Yeah yeah, co trained by Chris Wallo, who's an

1672
01:21:07,213 --> 01:21:09,652
Speaker 20: expat Kiwi, a couple of other keywis in the field

1673
01:21:09,692 --> 01:21:13,772
Speaker 20: and Positivity trained by Andrew Forsman and trust In You,

1674
01:21:14,412 --> 01:21:18,212
Speaker 20: who is co trained by Bruce Wallace and Grant Cooksley,

1675
01:21:18,372 --> 01:21:21,772
Speaker 20: a former New Zealand jockey. So few Kiwi angles to

1676
01:21:21,853 --> 01:21:23,412
Speaker 20: get your hands on there if you do want to

1677
01:21:23,412 --> 01:21:25,692
Speaker 20: have a dollar each way and be patriotic about things.

1678
01:21:25,812 --> 01:21:28,053
Speaker 3: And what's the excitement levels over there at the moment? Guy,

1679
01:21:28,093 --> 01:21:30,692
Speaker 3: I think we've got you while you've only had a

1680
01:21:30,732 --> 01:21:33,093
Speaker 3: couple of drinks at the stage, But excitement levels are

1681
01:21:33,133 --> 01:21:33,492
Speaker 3: they high?

1682
01:21:34,692 --> 01:21:36,892
Speaker 20: You've got me at a good time, that's for sure,

1683
01:21:37,053 --> 01:21:40,852
Speaker 20: yet very very high. Massive crowd. I think it's sold out,

1684
01:21:40,973 --> 01:21:44,413
Speaker 20: so ninety odd or one hundred thousand people packed into Flemington.

1685
01:21:45,053 --> 01:21:48,053
Speaker 20: Everyone's dressed up, everyone's looking forward to it. Obvious here.

1686
01:21:48,853 --> 01:21:50,893
Speaker 20: The only time I've been to the Melbourne Cup was

1687
01:21:50,933 --> 01:21:54,372
Speaker 20: twenty ten and it was absolutely bucketing down with rain

1688
01:21:54,492 --> 01:21:58,093
Speaker 20: like absolutely torrential. Well it's a complete opposite today, not

1689
01:21:58,213 --> 01:22:01,333
Speaker 20: a cloud in the sky. Everyone is in a good mood.

1690
01:22:02,093 --> 01:22:05,612
Speaker 20: I'm in a great mood. The track looks superb. Everyone

1691
01:22:05,652 --> 01:22:07,253
Speaker 20: looks superb, the horses look great.

1692
01:22:07,652 --> 01:22:10,253
Speaker 2: Bring it on, Well, what sort of temperature is that there.

1693
01:22:10,612 --> 01:22:12,772
Speaker 2: Last time I was at the Melbourne Cup, I was

1694
01:22:12,812 --> 01:22:16,812
Speaker 2: in the birdcage area. It was about forty one degrees.

1695
01:22:16,893 --> 01:22:18,732
Speaker 2: I was in a suit, I was sweating. No one

1696
01:22:18,853 --> 01:22:20,932
Speaker 2: was betting on anything. It was the most beautiful people

1697
01:22:20,933 --> 01:22:23,932
Speaker 2: I'd ever seen. I felt like a war dog walking

1698
01:22:24,013 --> 01:22:26,492
Speaker 2: around there, and I was just praying for the cool change.

1699
01:22:27,732 --> 01:22:30,053
Speaker 20: Yeah, all of the above. It's not quite forty one.

1700
01:22:30,133 --> 01:22:32,532
Speaker 20: It's probably I think we're at the late twenties today,

1701
01:22:33,173 --> 01:22:36,452
Speaker 20: so warm enough but not quite swell thing to the

1702
01:22:36,572 --> 01:22:38,732
Speaker 20: extent that you don't actually want to go outside. I

1703
01:22:38,812 --> 01:22:40,572
Speaker 20: would have to say it's pretty much perfect.

1704
01:22:41,372 --> 01:22:44,052
Speaker 13: You have a great day, wrap it up, will do lads, Thanks.

1705
01:22:43,933 --> 01:22:44,293
Speaker 4: And me on.

1706
01:22:45,133 --> 01:22:47,532
Speaker 3: So things are getting exciting for guy. I have velt

1707
01:22:47,812 --> 01:22:51,012
Speaker 3: at Flemington for the Melbourne Cup. But listening to Mike

1708
01:22:51,053 --> 01:22:54,772
Speaker 3: Coskin this morning and he read a piece by Peter

1709
01:22:54,853 --> 01:22:57,533
Speaker 3: fitz Simon's very famous rugby player over in Australia.

1710
01:22:58,652 --> 01:23:02,053
Speaker 8: You said, let's be clear, the Melbourne Cup does not

1711
01:23:02,093 --> 01:23:04,093
Speaker 8: stop a nation, and hasn't for years. And I think

1712
01:23:04,093 --> 01:23:06,093
Speaker 8: he's probably one hundred percent right, and it certainly doesn't

1713
01:23:06,133 --> 01:23:07,852
Speaker 8: stop in Australia. If it doesn't stop in Australia. It

1714
01:23:07,853 --> 01:23:08,772
Speaker 8: doesn't stop New Zealand.

1715
01:23:08,812 --> 01:23:09,492
Speaker 2: Is the broad interest.

1716
01:23:09,612 --> 01:23:11,772
Speaker 8: Yes, will there be sweep stakes, yes, But the days

1717
01:23:11,812 --> 01:23:15,133
Speaker 8: when everything stops simply isn't true anymore. It's not true

1718
01:23:15,213 --> 01:23:18,012
Speaker 8: of anything. We don't all watch the same television program.

1719
01:23:18,293 --> 01:23:20,772
Speaker 8: We aren't all interested in the same thing. No one

1720
01:23:20,812 --> 01:23:21,893
Speaker 8: connects the way they're used to.

1721
01:23:22,893 --> 01:23:26,532
Speaker 3: So the race that stopped a nation or two nations,

1722
01:23:26,612 --> 01:23:28,412
Speaker 3: that was the tagline for many years.

1723
01:23:28,692 --> 01:23:30,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, it still stops me.

1724
01:23:30,812 --> 01:23:31,173
Speaker 21: It does.

1725
01:23:31,652 --> 01:23:35,333
Speaker 2: And I think it's fantastic when people put together and

1726
01:23:35,452 --> 01:23:38,692
Speaker 2: office sweep steak, and Rea's done it in our office today.

1727
01:23:38,893 --> 01:23:41,692
Speaker 2: It brings people together, it does the work from home.

1728
01:23:41,732 --> 01:23:43,532
Speaker 2: People miss out on that kind of thing, you know,

1729
01:23:43,692 --> 01:23:45,812
Speaker 2: coming together. Whether you care about horse racing or not.

1730
01:23:45,933 --> 01:23:49,173
Speaker 2: It's one of those things where you you focus on

1731
01:23:49,333 --> 01:23:52,173
Speaker 2: one thing because it's a big event and it's something

1732
01:23:52,213 --> 01:23:55,492
Speaker 2: that everyone talks about. I think it's a great thing,

1733
01:23:55,572 --> 01:23:57,173
Speaker 2: and I think these are things that we should really

1734
01:23:57,293 --> 01:24:00,652
Speaker 2: really try and support and you've just got to be

1735
01:24:00,812 --> 01:24:04,532
Speaker 2: grateful to. They're called shirpers, people that bring people together

1736
01:24:04,612 --> 01:24:08,293
Speaker 2: by organizing offer sweep steaks and that kind of thing.

1737
01:24:08,933 --> 01:24:11,012
Speaker 2: Horse racing in general in New Zealand for the longest

1738
01:24:11,013 --> 01:24:13,692
Speaker 2: time people have been talking about it being in decline

1739
01:24:13,732 --> 01:24:16,213
Speaker 2: in terms of numbers that people go along. So if

1740
01:24:16,253 --> 01:24:19,532
Speaker 2: you're into horse racing, what's so great about it? What

1741
01:24:19,652 --> 01:24:21,692
Speaker 2: should what should we do to support it? If you

1742
01:24:21,732 --> 01:24:23,652
Speaker 2: want it to get bigger? Is it a good thing?

1743
01:24:23,812 --> 01:24:26,173
Speaker 3: Are you into the Melbourne Cup today? But what you

1744
01:24:26,412 --> 01:24:30,092
Speaker 3: just said, snap, exactly what I'm loving about the Melbourne

1745
01:24:30,133 --> 01:24:32,333
Speaker 3: Cup is it's not about the horse racing. It's about

1746
01:24:32,372 --> 01:24:34,412
Speaker 3: the vibe that I see out there in the office.

1747
01:24:34,492 --> 01:24:36,812
Speaker 3: Because I couldn't give two hoots about who wins. I'm

1748
01:24:36,893 --> 01:24:38,572
Speaker 3: died and actually I'm not. In the sweep steaks.

1749
01:24:38,652 --> 01:24:41,293
Speaker 2: You are and you you were too late getting into

1750
01:24:41,293 --> 01:24:43,173
Speaker 2: the sweep States style. I tried to buy you in.

1751
01:24:43,532 --> 01:24:45,372
Speaker 2: I bought an extra ten bucks in to try and

1752
01:24:45,412 --> 01:24:46,572
Speaker 2: get you in there, but you were too late.

1753
01:24:46,652 --> 01:24:48,333
Speaker 3: So where's my horse? Someone else took my horse?

1754
01:24:48,452 --> 01:24:49,933
Speaker 2: No, there was just not a space for you. You

1755
01:24:50,013 --> 01:24:52,333
Speaker 2: were too slow, So I got mostly Cloudy pulled out,

1756
01:24:52,333 --> 01:24:53,852
Speaker 2: which is playing one hundred and one, So that was

1757
01:24:53,853 --> 01:24:54,532
Speaker 2: disappointing for me.

1758
01:24:54,652 --> 01:24:56,412
Speaker 3: I think it's dropped down to seventy one dollars now,

1759
01:24:56,492 --> 01:24:58,253
Speaker 3: so it might be in with a shot. But that's

1760
01:24:58,333 --> 01:25:01,253
Speaker 3: what I love about these events. It can be anything,

1761
01:25:01,452 --> 01:25:04,092
Speaker 3: but the hype around it and seeing other people excited

1762
01:25:04,293 --> 01:25:05,532
Speaker 3: gets me a little bit excited.

1763
01:25:05,612 --> 01:25:05,772
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1764
01:25:05,772 --> 01:25:07,692
Speaker 2: And if you want to ring eight hundred and eighty

1765
01:25:07,732 --> 01:25:10,412
Speaker 2: and eighty and two about the people in your office,

1766
01:25:10,492 --> 01:25:12,492
Speaker 2: or if you're the person in the office that brings

1767
01:25:12,532 --> 01:25:16,732
Speaker 2: people together for things like the Melbourne Cup, respect for

1768
01:25:16,772 --> 01:25:19,772
Speaker 2: those people that put things together and bring people together

1769
01:25:19,853 --> 01:25:23,333
Speaker 2: and get excited. And people don't get together for things anymore,

1770
01:25:23,372 --> 01:25:25,612
Speaker 2: nothing stops us anymore, but you can put the effort

1771
01:25:25,692 --> 01:25:27,932
Speaker 2: in to make that happen. And I think the Melbourne

1772
01:25:27,933 --> 01:25:30,452
Speaker 2: Cup is worth stopping for and it's worth being excited for,

1773
01:25:30,933 --> 01:25:32,652
Speaker 2: just because it's a thing that happens and it makes

1774
01:25:32,732 --> 01:25:34,652
Speaker 2: day to day life just a little bit more exciting.

1775
01:25:34,812 --> 01:25:36,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're into it, love to hear from you.

1776
01:25:37,013 --> 01:25:39,532
Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine to ninety two is

1777
01:25:39,532 --> 01:25:41,652
Speaker 3: the text number. Just a reminder that we will have

1778
01:25:41,732 --> 01:25:44,652
Speaker 3: it broadcast live on News Talk ZB at five pm.

1779
01:25:44,933 --> 01:25:46,452
Speaker 2: It'll stop you.

1780
01:25:47,532 --> 01:25:53,172
Speaker 3: It is thirteen past three. Good afternoon, It is sixteen

1781
01:25:53,253 --> 01:25:56,372
Speaker 3: past three. In about one hour and forty five minutes,

1782
01:25:56,412 --> 01:26:00,893
Speaker 3: the Melbourne Cup gets underway. Woo whoo, you're excited by it.

1783
01:26:01,173 --> 01:26:03,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, i am. I've got a bit of money on

1784
01:26:03,893 --> 01:26:08,053
Speaker 2: Sharp and Smart and a bit of money on Kovalika

1785
01:26:08,812 --> 01:26:12,253
Speaker 2: and I pulled out of the sweep steak mostly cloudy,

1786
01:26:15,053 --> 01:26:17,092
Speaker 2: but the one I've pulled out is mostly cloudy. Unfortunately

1787
01:26:17,213 --> 01:26:20,173
Speaker 2: one hundred and one dollars. But the Melbourne Cup is

1788
01:26:20,173 --> 01:26:22,812
Speaker 2: a fantastic time and going to the races is a

1789
01:26:22,933 --> 01:26:25,173
Speaker 2: really good time. I'm part of a WhatsApp group where

1790
01:26:25,213 --> 01:26:28,572
Speaker 2: we have little tips. We'll we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll throw

1791
01:26:28,612 --> 01:26:31,452
Speaker 2: a bit of money at the ponies during during of

1792
01:26:31,572 --> 01:26:34,293
Speaker 2: a weekend and it's a very very fun time. Even

1793
01:26:34,333 --> 01:26:37,492
Speaker 2: outside of glamorous times like the Melbourne Cup, it's a

1794
01:26:37,572 --> 01:26:40,173
Speaker 2: great time because you can just put trackside on and

1795
01:26:40,293 --> 01:26:41,852
Speaker 2: you can have a little flutter. And I'm not one

1796
01:26:41,853 --> 01:26:43,572
Speaker 2: of those guys that has big flotters. I never go

1797
01:26:43,692 --> 01:26:46,293
Speaker 2: for the big dirty, a big payday. I'll just do

1798
01:26:46,372 --> 01:26:47,812
Speaker 2: a little sprinkle here and.

1799
01:26:47,772 --> 01:26:50,452
Speaker 3: A little twenty buck yeah, teen bucks there, Bob each way.

1800
01:26:50,652 --> 01:26:52,932
Speaker 2: Not even that much, not even that much. And yes,

1801
01:26:53,013 --> 01:26:56,333
Speaker 2: I'm very very very sure, but it's just a matter

1802
01:26:56,452 --> 01:26:59,293
Speaker 2: of it's actually it's an entertaining thing to do and

1803
01:26:59,333 --> 01:27:01,412
Speaker 2: I think horse racing is a great thing. But the

1804
01:27:01,612 --> 01:27:05,173
Speaker 2: Melbourne Cup, that's when, probably at the moment where most

1805
01:27:05,173 --> 01:27:08,133
Speaker 2: people in New Zealand engage with horse racing.

1806
01:27:08,372 --> 01:27:10,732
Speaker 3: Do you think our love of horse racing is still high?

1807
01:27:10,853 --> 01:27:13,532
Speaker 3: We used to be and maybe perhaps we still love,

1808
01:27:13,572 --> 01:27:16,052
Speaker 3: but we used to be a nation that loved horse racing,

1809
01:27:16,173 --> 01:27:17,972
Speaker 3: got right behind it. We've got a Minister of Racing

1810
01:27:18,013 --> 01:27:18,733
Speaker 3: for goodness.

1811
01:27:18,412 --> 01:27:19,333
Speaker 2: Sake, Whinnie Peters.

1812
01:27:19,532 --> 01:27:19,692
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1813
01:27:20,133 --> 01:27:24,293
Speaker 3: And for me, I've never been that much into horse racing,

1814
01:27:24,372 --> 01:27:27,012
Speaker 3: but I enjoy a day out at the races, whether

1815
01:27:27,173 --> 01:27:28,812
Speaker 3: I mean the last time I went was Cup Dang

1816
01:27:28,893 --> 01:27:32,293
Speaker 3: and Christjitch. That's a burg week. Everybody gets super excited

1817
01:27:32,333 --> 01:27:34,612
Speaker 3: because it's the whole week. It's a festival atmosphere. You've

1818
01:27:34,612 --> 01:27:36,612
Speaker 3: got the Amp show, then the Cup day and the

1819
01:27:36,732 --> 01:27:39,732
Speaker 3: racing and the student races. But to me, that was

1820
01:27:39,853 --> 01:27:41,652
Speaker 3: just an excuse for a party, that's all it was.

1821
01:27:41,893 --> 01:27:43,532
Speaker 2: We went one of those people because John Campbell in

1822
01:27:43,572 --> 01:27:46,253
Speaker 2: a show he used to love shaming people for getting

1823
01:27:46,293 --> 01:27:50,133
Speaker 2: too steamed and ending up upside down and wheelibin's and stuff.

1824
01:27:50,173 --> 01:27:51,852
Speaker 2: Were you ever one of those people that just went

1825
01:27:51,933 --> 01:27:55,692
Speaker 2: too far lost it and humiliated yourself and people stood

1826
01:27:55,692 --> 01:27:58,133
Speaker 2: around with cameras filming you as you had gone out

1827
01:27:58,173 --> 01:27:59,693
Speaker 2: and your lovely outfit.

1828
01:27:59,612 --> 01:28:01,572
Speaker 3: Correct on points number one and two. But you always

1829
01:28:01,572 --> 01:28:03,412
Speaker 3: found out where John was during the day and just

1830
01:28:03,492 --> 01:28:06,412
Speaker 3: made sure to avoid and avoid the cameras. But that

1831
01:28:06,572 --> 01:28:08,253
Speaker 3: was kind of part and parcel, I mean the student

1832
01:28:08,452 --> 01:28:11,732
Speaker 3: racers in particular when I was at broadcast in school

1833
01:28:11,812 --> 01:28:14,492
Speaker 3: in Canterbury UNI. I mean, what else do you do

1834
01:28:14,572 --> 01:28:16,852
Speaker 3: when you're a UNI student? As you get dressed up

1835
01:28:16,853 --> 01:28:18,772
Speaker 3: in whatever suit you can find and have a great

1836
01:28:18,853 --> 01:28:20,972
Speaker 3: day out. That's part about being a student, right.

1837
01:28:20,893 --> 01:28:22,293
Speaker 2: Well, there's a text here on nine two, nine and

1838
01:28:22,293 --> 01:28:25,293
Speaker 2: two what a load of rubbish. Everybody becomes interested because

1839
01:28:25,293 --> 01:28:27,333
Speaker 2: everyone talks about it, But you are a hell of

1840
01:28:27,333 --> 01:28:30,293
Speaker 2: a lot of more people talk about Bathist than horse racing,

1841
01:28:30,333 --> 01:28:32,213
Speaker 2: but no one's ever interested in that. I think people

1842
01:28:32,293 --> 01:28:34,412
Speaker 2: talk a lot about Bathist and I know a lot

1843
01:28:34,412 --> 01:28:36,333
Speaker 2: of people that interested. I guess it's a circle. But

1844
01:28:37,293 --> 01:28:39,692
Speaker 2: everybody becomes interested because everyone talks about it. But I

1845
01:28:39,732 --> 01:28:41,852
Speaker 2: guess that's the point. Don't we want more of those

1846
01:28:41,933 --> 01:28:44,212
Speaker 2: things where people talk about it and we become interested

1847
01:28:44,253 --> 01:28:48,253
Speaker 2: and we get together and focus on something as groups

1848
01:28:48,293 --> 01:28:50,092
Speaker 2: of people. And I love the idea of the office

1849
01:28:50,692 --> 01:28:52,852
Speaker 2: sweep steak. I read this book by a go called

1850
01:28:52,893 --> 01:28:55,173
Speaker 2: Max Dickens, a British guy. He wrote a book called

1851
01:28:55,532 --> 01:28:57,652
Speaker 2: Billy No Mates, and it was all about how we

1852
01:28:57,812 --> 01:29:01,652
Speaker 2: need to come together as people in communities. And he

1853
01:29:01,772 --> 01:29:04,013
Speaker 2: talked about the people that do that, that organize things,

1854
01:29:04,053 --> 01:29:07,012
Speaker 2: that organize the golf trips, that organize things round office,

1855
01:29:07,213 --> 01:29:10,093
Speaker 2: organize the sweep state around things like the Melbourne Cup,

1856
01:29:10,293 --> 01:29:13,933
Speaker 2: where people come together and appreciate something together and have

1857
01:29:14,013 --> 01:29:16,093
Speaker 2: but a fun together. He called them shurpas. Great name,

1858
01:29:16,293 --> 01:29:20,412
Speaker 2: and the surpas need to be celebrated in our communities.

1859
01:29:20,853 --> 01:29:24,133
Speaker 2: The people that organize things to talk about things and

1860
01:29:24,213 --> 01:29:26,293
Speaker 2: bring people together on certain issues.

1861
01:29:26,452 --> 01:29:29,532
Speaker 3: You've been to the Melbourne Cup events rather than issues

1862
01:29:30,213 --> 01:29:32,053
Speaker 3: a Melbourne Cup. You've been a couple of times to

1863
01:29:32,133 --> 01:29:33,692
Speaker 3: the actual Melbourne Cup. I've been to the Melbourne Cup.

1864
01:29:33,812 --> 01:29:37,213
Speaker 3: I got a helicopter into Flemington at one point Chaapers, Yeah,

1865
01:29:37,732 --> 01:29:39,452
Speaker 3: whose helicopter was at my costkins?

1866
01:29:39,492 --> 01:29:41,572
Speaker 2: I don't know whose helicopter it was. It was one

1867
01:29:41,572 --> 01:29:44,173
Speaker 2: of those silly things I was running a It was

1868
01:29:44,253 --> 01:29:46,572
Speaker 2: kind of a thing for Victorian tourism. But we had

1869
01:29:46,612 --> 01:29:49,412
Speaker 2: to drive way past Flemington from our hotel to get

1870
01:29:49,532 --> 01:29:52,892
Speaker 2: to the helicopter that then fluence into Flemington, then landed

1871
01:29:53,053 --> 01:29:56,572
Speaker 2: miles and miles away within Flemington before we walked to

1872
01:29:56,933 --> 01:29:59,372
Speaker 2: where we were hanging out in the bird cage.

1873
01:29:59,853 --> 01:30:03,852
Speaker 3: But people would say that Melbourne Cup should be on

1874
01:30:03,933 --> 01:30:07,133
Speaker 3: the bucket list of events that are in Australasia that

1875
01:30:07,253 --> 01:30:09,372
Speaker 3: if you can get to, you should Would you agree

1876
01:30:09,412 --> 01:30:09,572
Speaker 3: with that?

1877
01:30:09,973 --> 01:30:12,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, understanding, But I think more we're talking about events

1878
01:30:12,412 --> 01:30:14,492
Speaker 2: that stopped the nation in New Zealand because very few people,

1879
01:30:14,572 --> 01:30:16,372
Speaker 2: as a percentage of the people that follow the Malbourne

1880
01:30:16,372 --> 01:30:19,093
Speaker 2: Cup get to go, right. That's what one hundred and

1881
01:30:19,133 --> 01:30:21,093
Speaker 2: ninety thousand people there on this particular day on the

1882
01:30:21,133 --> 01:30:24,213
Speaker 2: actual Maulboin Cup day. But I think though, I think

1883
01:30:24,253 --> 01:30:25,852
Speaker 2: that it's a great thing for people to get together

1884
01:30:26,372 --> 01:30:28,692
Speaker 2: and watch the race, whether they ever get to go

1885
01:30:28,772 --> 01:30:29,572
Speaker 2: to the race or not.

1886
01:30:30,333 --> 01:30:32,253
Speaker 3: Is the bad behavior kind of part and parcel of

1887
01:30:32,333 --> 01:30:34,412
Speaker 3: that day or just read this text out, hi, guys.

1888
01:30:34,492 --> 01:30:36,052
Speaker 3: A couple of years ago I went to the couple

1889
01:30:36,333 --> 01:30:38,772
Speaker 3: and christ Jusch and witnessed the woman who threw up

1890
01:30:38,812 --> 01:30:41,812
Speaker 3: in her handbag. Yuck. I mean that is you know

1891
01:30:41,973 --> 01:30:43,972
Speaker 3: what you're getting if you go to the Melbourne Cup

1892
01:30:44,612 --> 01:30:47,213
Speaker 3: or Cup Day in christ Jouch. You know that you're

1893
01:30:47,253 --> 01:30:48,452
Speaker 3: going to see some of that behavior.

1894
01:30:48,772 --> 01:30:52,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the outside, that's on the outer

1895
01:30:52,372 --> 01:30:54,612
Speaker 2: edge of the people's behavior there. And you could say

1896
01:30:54,652 --> 01:30:56,253
Speaker 2: that throwing up in your handbag is a polite thing

1897
01:30:56,293 --> 01:30:57,812
Speaker 2: to do as opposed to throwing up on the floor

1898
01:30:57,893 --> 01:30:59,652
Speaker 2: or on someone else. Yeah, you could say that she

1899
01:30:59,772 --> 01:31:02,452
Speaker 2: was behaving responsibly and she knew what she was doing

1900
01:31:02,652 --> 01:31:05,173
Speaker 2: and that circumstance. But I guess I'm not really talking

1901
01:31:05,173 --> 01:31:09,412
Speaker 2: about the behavior at those kind of races and such.

1902
01:31:09,772 --> 01:31:12,452
Speaker 2: I think you can always focus on how people go

1903
01:31:12,572 --> 01:31:14,812
Speaker 2: too far, and everyone talks about that someone putting on

1904
01:31:14,853 --> 01:31:16,452
Speaker 2: a nice frock and going along and throwing up in

1905
01:31:16,492 --> 01:31:18,892
Speaker 2: their handbag. It's always the most interesting thing to talk about.

1906
01:31:19,333 --> 01:31:22,932
Speaker 2: But the majority of people that follow the Melbourne Cup,

1907
01:31:23,053 --> 01:31:25,293
Speaker 2: it's maybe the only horse race they watch in a year,

1908
01:31:25,732 --> 01:31:28,093
Speaker 2: and I think it's a very very very positive thing.

1909
01:31:28,333 --> 01:31:30,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, love to hear from you. If you did the

1910
01:31:30,253 --> 01:31:32,772
Speaker 3: office sweep steak, you had the schuper in your office,

1911
01:31:32,893 --> 01:31:35,372
Speaker 3: is that what this day is about? The Melbourne Cup.

1912
01:31:35,612 --> 01:31:37,772
Speaker 3: It's about the excitement in the office, whether you care

1913
01:31:37,812 --> 01:31:40,772
Speaker 3: about horse racing or not. It's an excuse to get

1914
01:31:40,812 --> 01:31:42,933
Speaker 3: around the telly, get around the radio, listen to the

1915
01:31:43,053 --> 01:31:45,732
Speaker 3: race and celebrate. And you might pick out a horse

1916
01:31:45,772 --> 01:31:47,692
Speaker 3: that you have no idea what the odds are, but

1917
01:31:47,772 --> 01:31:48,652
Speaker 3: it's all part of the fun.

1918
01:31:48,933 --> 01:31:50,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I guarantee I won't throw up in

1919
01:31:50,572 --> 01:31:52,093
Speaker 2: my handbag when I'm watching the race later on.

1920
01:31:52,732 --> 01:31:54,932
Speaker 3: You say that now, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1921
01:31:54,973 --> 01:31:56,012
Speaker 3: It's twenty two past three.

1922
01:32:00,652 --> 01:32:04,293
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred eighty

1923
01:32:04,372 --> 01:32:06,253
Speaker 1: ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

1924
01:32:06,412 --> 01:32:09,852
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, it is twenty four past three and plenty

1925
01:32:10,013 --> 01:32:13,013
Speaker 3: of tips coming through on the Melbourne Cup. Get A

1926
01:32:13,133 --> 01:32:15,732
Speaker 3: Guys Show week in christ Church? Was fair?

1927
01:32:16,412 --> 01:32:16,532
Speaker 10: Was it?

1928
01:32:16,652 --> 01:32:18,852
Speaker 3: The members stand one year and the lasses are far

1929
01:32:18,973 --> 01:32:23,173
Speaker 3: worse than the chaps. A rebad behavior and this one

1930
01:32:23,293 --> 01:32:25,372
Speaker 3: Getay Guys went to the Melbourne Cup a few years

1931
01:32:25,372 --> 01:32:27,692
Speaker 3: ago was one of the best days out ever. The

1932
01:32:27,772 --> 01:32:31,652
Speaker 3: bad behavior gets a bad rap, but most people are

1933
01:32:31,732 --> 01:32:33,732
Speaker 3: just dressed up to the nines and a great day

1934
01:32:33,772 --> 01:32:34,253
Speaker 3: all around.

1935
01:32:34,612 --> 01:32:34,772
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1936
01:32:34,812 --> 01:32:36,652
Speaker 2: I didn't bathe terribly when I went to the Melbourne Cup,

1937
01:32:36,812 --> 01:32:38,652
Speaker 2: although I wore a two terrible suit. It was so

1938
01:32:38,772 --> 01:32:41,172
Speaker 2: bad in my suit that I nearly didn't get allowed

1939
01:32:41,372 --> 01:32:43,492
Speaker 2: into the fancy area that I've got tickets to.

1940
01:32:43,692 --> 01:32:45,093
Speaker 3: What kind of suit it was.

1941
01:32:46,372 --> 01:32:48,333
Speaker 2: I sort of had an open shirt kind of situation

1942
01:32:48,452 --> 01:32:49,893
Speaker 2: going on because it's so hot. It was sort of

1943
01:32:49,973 --> 01:32:52,333
Speaker 2: this baby blue kind of number with a sort of

1944
01:32:52,853 --> 01:32:56,492
Speaker 2: frilly shirt off the rack. It was off the rack, Yeah,

1945
01:32:56,532 --> 01:32:58,093
Speaker 2: it was off the rack. Brought it on the way

1946
01:32:58,133 --> 01:33:00,173
Speaker 2: out to the ground. But also I wore a pair

1947
01:33:00,213 --> 01:33:02,612
Speaker 2: of jandles and you went allowed to have open shoes

1948
01:33:02,692 --> 01:33:04,532
Speaker 2: in the area there, You're supposed to have a tie there,

1949
01:33:04,772 --> 01:33:07,173
Speaker 2: So there's a bit of negotiation there. I eventually got

1950
01:33:07,253 --> 01:33:09,692
Speaker 2: some shoes handed to me by someone that listens to

1951
01:33:09,893 --> 01:33:11,973
Speaker 2: my problem is getting in over the little area, and

1952
01:33:12,013 --> 01:33:13,333
Speaker 2: I put them on and then handed back to them

1953
01:33:13,333 --> 01:33:14,612
Speaker 2: when I got to the other side. I think this

1954
01:33:14,732 --> 01:33:16,333
Speaker 2: is a beautiful text that came through on nine two

1955
01:33:16,452 --> 01:33:18,333
Speaker 2: nine two. I just wanted to say a shout out

1956
01:33:18,372 --> 01:33:20,652
Speaker 2: to Fill in my office, who always organizes things like this.

1957
01:33:20,853 --> 01:33:23,452
Speaker 2: Organized a bowling trip for no occasion, got all of

1958
01:33:23,532 --> 01:33:26,173
Speaker 2: us together out and about. It was great. Every year

1959
01:33:26,213 --> 01:33:28,652
Speaker 2: he organizes the sweep steak for the Melbourne Cup, gets

1960
01:33:28,732 --> 01:33:30,333
Speaker 2: us together for a bit of fun at the end

1961
01:33:30,412 --> 01:33:33,333
Speaker 2: of the day for the Melbourne Cup. So yeah, beautiful,

1962
01:33:33,412 --> 01:33:36,293
Speaker 2: that's beautiful. There's no vomiting, a handbags or anything bad

1963
01:33:36,333 --> 01:33:39,613
Speaker 2: behavior like that. It's just wholesome office get together.

1964
01:33:39,732 --> 01:33:42,612
Speaker 3: Very nice and just a reminder that the Melbourne Cup

1965
01:33:42,652 --> 01:33:46,612
Speaker 3: will be broadcast live on News Talk ZBB at five pm.

1966
01:33:46,893 --> 01:33:49,173
Speaker 3: And the favorite at the stage looks to be Bukaroo.

1967
01:33:49,253 --> 01:33:52,172
Speaker 3: You certainly don't have the favorite Andrew our producer has Buckaroo.

1968
01:33:52,412 --> 01:33:55,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, I pulled an absolute punisher of a horse out

1969
01:33:55,213 --> 01:33:57,013
Speaker 2: of the box as the same form mostly Cloudy. He's

1970
01:33:57,053 --> 01:33:59,173
Speaker 2: not going to win me the sweep steak. But Sharp

1971
01:33:59,213 --> 01:34:03,932
Speaker 2: and Smart and Kovalka are the two horses that I've

1972
01:34:03,933 --> 01:34:05,492
Speaker 2: put money on. But that's just because I always go

1973
01:34:05,572 --> 01:34:07,852
Speaker 2: for the Kiwi horses. I feel like it's unpatriotic because

1974
01:34:07,893 --> 01:34:10,253
Speaker 2: of a Key horse wins or a Kiwi trained horse

1975
01:34:10,333 --> 01:34:13,772
Speaker 2: wins and you haven't bet on it, then you're not

1976
01:34:13,893 --> 01:34:16,532
Speaker 2: only have you not won the money, but you're unpatriotic. Yeah,

1977
01:34:16,692 --> 01:34:18,893
Speaker 2: but for Kiwi horse wins and you have puts a

1978
01:34:19,333 --> 01:34:21,692
Speaker 2: little bit of a little bit of a flutter on it,

1979
01:34:22,133 --> 01:34:23,812
Speaker 2: then makes you a good human being.

1980
01:34:24,093 --> 01:34:27,053
Speaker 3: The last time a Kiwei a new Zealand Horse one

1981
01:34:27,293 --> 01:34:32,772
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one very elegant and twenty fifteen Prince of Penzance.

1982
01:34:32,893 --> 01:34:34,212
Speaker 3: Remember Prince of Penzance.

1983
01:34:34,412 --> 01:34:37,253
Speaker 2: Great horses, great horse. Yeah, Melbourn If one smokes the

1984
01:34:37,333 --> 01:34:38,372
Speaker 2: Melbourn cup says this text.

1985
01:34:38,572 --> 01:34:41,133
Speaker 3: No doubt about that right. Oh eight hundred and eighty

1986
01:34:41,213 --> 01:34:43,612
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. It is twenty

1987
01:34:43,812 --> 01:34:46,333
Speaker 3: seven past three. Are listening to Matt and Tyler back

1988
01:34:46,372 --> 01:34:46,532
Speaker 3: in a.

1989
01:34:46,532 --> 01:34:51,812
Speaker 14: Mow you talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxing.

1990
01:34:52,013 --> 01:34:54,772
Speaker 14: It's no trouble with a blue bubble, the Order to

1991
01:34:54,853 --> 01:34:58,213
Speaker 14: General says City and district councils in Canterbury, christ Church,

1992
01:34:58,333 --> 01:35:02,212
Speaker 14: Nelson and huang Anue a progressing well with local response

1993
01:35:02,333 --> 01:35:06,333
Speaker 14: is to climate change, but there's more to do. Auckland

1994
01:35:06,333 --> 01:35:10,253
Speaker 14: police are investigating a deliberately a fire at a Newlynn mosque,

1995
01:35:10,652 --> 01:35:13,572
Speaker 14: thus still looking into a possible motive and cannot say

1996
01:35:13,572 --> 01:35:17,132
Speaker 14: at this point if it's a hate related crime. Meanwhile,

1997
01:35:17,173 --> 01:35:19,813
Speaker 14: a fire at a block of lower Hut flats overnight,

1998
01:35:20,213 --> 01:35:23,053
Speaker 14: leaving an elderly man fighting for his life, is being

1999
01:35:23,093 --> 01:35:27,213
Speaker 14: treated as suspicious. The Prime Minister denies any children were

2000
01:35:27,293 --> 01:35:30,492
Speaker 14: left alone after police gang raids and Bay of Plenties

2001
01:35:30,612 --> 01:35:35,852
Speaker 14: or Portiqui. In October, Fox Glacier Highway is blocked after

2002
01:35:35,893 --> 01:35:39,692
Speaker 14: a single vehicle crash between Fox Glacier and Franz Joseph

2003
01:35:39,973 --> 01:35:44,692
Speaker 14: with serious injuries. Lightly The government's introduce requirements to make

2004
01:35:44,772 --> 01:35:49,972
Speaker 14: government agencies pay invoices within five business days. Digital invoices

2005
01:35:50,013 --> 01:35:54,372
Speaker 14: will also be required. From January. Consumer watch dog uja's

2006
01:35:54,372 --> 01:35:59,133
Speaker 14: government to consider an investigation into domestic airfares. Seymore at

2007
01:35:59,253 --> 01:36:02,412
Speaker 14: ensid Herald Premium. Now back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

2008
01:36:02,532 --> 01:36:05,293
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen. It is twenty nine to four.

2009
01:36:05,732 --> 01:36:09,053
Speaker 2: Yeah and yesterday. One of the greatest music producers of

2010
01:36:09,093 --> 01:36:11,253
Speaker 2: all time and one of the greatest musicians of all time.

2011
01:36:11,572 --> 01:36:14,213
Speaker 2: Quincy Jones passed away at ninety one, you'll know, and

2012
01:36:14,333 --> 01:36:17,133
Speaker 2: probably for his work with Michael Jackson, some of the

2013
01:36:17,853 --> 01:36:20,532
Speaker 2: most famous work he does. But he's been across music

2014
01:36:20,612 --> 01:36:23,452
Speaker 2: for so long. Absolute genius. So I'm going to finish

2015
01:36:23,532 --> 01:36:27,093
Speaker 2: the show with my top five Quincy Jones produced or

2016
01:36:27,213 --> 01:36:30,253
Speaker 2: performed songs of all time. If you've got any suggestions

2017
01:36:30,333 --> 01:36:33,732
Speaker 2: nine two ninety two, love to hear suggestions. Quincy Jones

2018
01:36:33,853 --> 01:36:37,053
Speaker 2: just an absolute genius and if you want to see

2019
01:36:37,133 --> 01:36:39,972
Speaker 2: him action, just watch the documentaries on Netflix, The Greatest

2020
01:36:40,053 --> 01:36:40,732
Speaker 2: Night in Pop.

2021
01:36:40,893 --> 01:36:42,692
Speaker 3: A giant ye, a giant of music.

2022
01:36:42,893 --> 01:36:43,093
Speaker 11: Right.

2023
01:36:43,412 --> 01:36:45,412
Speaker 3: But now I've got a situation and I'm going to

2024
01:36:45,492 --> 01:36:48,252
Speaker 3: throw it to you, Matt, and to you the audience.

2025
01:36:48,612 --> 01:36:51,572
Speaker 3: Am I the jerk in the situation? So give way

2026
01:36:51,692 --> 01:36:54,852
Speaker 3: rules on narrow streets? So here's the scenario, right, Is

2027
01:36:55,253 --> 01:36:57,372
Speaker 3: I am driving along and come up to a narrow

2028
01:36:57,452 --> 01:36:59,572
Speaker 3: street that only allows or you can only get one

2029
01:36:59,652 --> 01:37:02,052
Speaker 3: car through at a time. If I see someone coming

2030
01:37:02,133 --> 01:37:04,852
Speaker 3: up to that narrow part and they are closer to

2031
01:37:04,933 --> 01:37:06,812
Speaker 3: that narrow part, I'll pull over and give way to them.

2032
01:37:06,893 --> 01:37:10,253
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, you're coming along the street, right, and there's

2033
01:37:10,293 --> 01:37:12,293
Speaker 2: not room for two people to go along. And there's

2034
01:37:12,293 --> 01:37:13,852
Speaker 2: a lot more of those streets in Auckland than there are,

2035
01:37:14,093 --> 01:37:16,612
Speaker 2: and you've been living there are absolutely so you're just

2036
01:37:16,652 --> 01:37:19,492
Speaker 2: getting used to this. So you're coming along and you

2037
01:37:19,772 --> 01:37:22,013
Speaker 2: will always be the first person to pulls over to

2038
01:37:22,093 --> 01:37:22,972
Speaker 2: let the first persons through.

2039
01:37:24,013 --> 01:37:27,612
Speaker 3: Someone's closer distance thing closer to the narrow part, then

2040
01:37:27,692 --> 01:37:29,253
Speaker 3: I will do what I think is the right thing

2041
01:37:29,333 --> 01:37:32,053
Speaker 3: to pull over and let them through. But what I've

2042
01:37:32,053 --> 01:37:34,732
Speaker 3: found out, and this happened to me this morning is

2043
01:37:34,772 --> 01:37:38,173
Speaker 3: that I let that person through and then someone comes

2044
01:37:38,293 --> 01:37:40,812
Speaker 3: zooming up and tries to get through with them. So

2045
01:37:40,933 --> 01:37:43,812
Speaker 3: what I did as I moved into the street and said,

2046
01:37:43,812 --> 01:37:46,093
Speaker 3: hang on them and I am nexting Q here. I

2047
01:37:46,213 --> 01:37:49,012
Speaker 3: let that person through because they were first. I'm second.

2048
01:37:49,333 --> 01:37:51,372
Speaker 3: Now you wait and give way to me, am I

2049
01:37:51,452 --> 01:37:54,253
Speaker 3: being the jerk. So the person that's have.

2050
01:37:54,372 --> 01:37:56,892
Speaker 2: They zoomed up to get closer, because I would say,

2051
01:37:56,893 --> 01:37:59,093
Speaker 2: if you let the person through and they're coming, I

2052
01:37:59,133 --> 01:38:01,372
Speaker 2: don't know, two seconds behind, you're following the two second

2053
01:38:01,412 --> 01:38:04,412
Speaker 2: rule or whatever, then you're kind of letting two people through.

2054
01:38:05,452 --> 01:38:08,452
Speaker 2: They're in a procession. So what And you're asking if

2055
01:38:08,492 --> 01:38:10,173
Speaker 2: you're the jerk in this situation, so what did you

2056
01:38:10,253 --> 01:38:12,293
Speaker 2: pull out and block that other person that was coming through?

2057
01:38:12,372 --> 01:38:12,572
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2058
01:38:12,572 --> 01:38:15,133
Speaker 3: Because that wasn't fair. They spit up so they could

2059
01:38:15,173 --> 01:38:17,532
Speaker 3: get through with this person, right, But I was next

2060
01:38:17,612 --> 01:38:19,772
Speaker 3: in cue, I was waiting to go through. I thought

2061
01:38:19,812 --> 01:38:21,772
Speaker 3: I did the right thing. Let that person go through

2062
01:38:21,812 --> 01:38:24,412
Speaker 3: because they were first to the narrow part. I was second.

2063
01:38:24,452 --> 01:38:27,293
Speaker 3: This third person he had no business coming through at

2064
01:38:27,333 --> 01:38:27,652
Speaker 3: that point.

2065
01:38:27,933 --> 01:38:31,012
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, No, I think I mean it's a risky

2066
01:38:31,093 --> 01:38:34,093
Speaker 2: thing to do to try and force a rule using your.

2067
01:38:34,093 --> 01:38:36,892
Speaker 3: Car probably pretty dangerous.

2068
01:38:37,253 --> 01:38:39,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I experienced this all the time, and

2069
01:38:39,893 --> 01:38:41,572
Speaker 2: I used to get really really annoyed if people didn't

2070
01:38:41,612 --> 01:38:45,293
Speaker 2: wave if I let them in. And so you've taken

2071
01:38:45,333 --> 01:38:46,852
Speaker 2: time out of your day to let someone through on

2072
01:38:46,893 --> 01:38:49,772
Speaker 2: a narrow street and as they go past, they've got

2073
01:38:49,812 --> 01:38:52,412
Speaker 2: to at least lift the finger off the steering wheel.

2074
01:38:53,053 --> 01:38:55,612
Speaker 2: And it used to really annoy me. I've had to

2075
01:38:56,333 --> 01:38:59,093
Speaker 2: reach deep down into my soul to forgive people that

2076
01:38:59,173 --> 01:39:01,333
Speaker 2: don't wave, thank you if you let them in.

2077
01:39:02,013 --> 01:39:02,452
Speaker 9: But I'm not.

2078
01:39:02,532 --> 01:39:05,133
Speaker 2: I think that's a gray ear, You're gray area you're

2079
01:39:05,133 --> 01:39:07,293
Speaker 2: talking through because I don't even know exactly how many

2080
01:39:07,372 --> 01:39:10,572
Speaker 2: people to let in. I feel like if I've pulled over,

2081
01:39:10,732 --> 01:39:13,612
Speaker 2: i'd essentially let everyone that's coming that way in. I've

2082
01:39:13,933 --> 01:39:16,692
Speaker 2: basically said, depending on the length of the street and

2083
01:39:16,772 --> 01:39:19,652
Speaker 2: how long I'm sitting there, within reason that I've pulled over,

2084
01:39:19,692 --> 01:39:21,852
Speaker 2: and I'm the person that's pulled over for the people

2085
01:39:21,893 --> 01:39:23,772
Speaker 2: to go through, making me a great person and I

2086
01:39:23,812 --> 01:39:24,932
Speaker 2: can feel really good about myself.

2087
01:39:24,933 --> 01:39:26,612
Speaker 3: I'll tell you the reason it annoyed me because I

2088
01:39:26,692 --> 01:39:28,732
Speaker 3: thought I was doing the right thing, being courteous, that

2089
01:39:28,853 --> 01:39:31,893
Speaker 3: person was first, I let them through, and by that

2090
01:39:32,093 --> 01:39:34,452
Speaker 3: same argument, that person who tried to race should have

2091
01:39:34,492 --> 01:39:36,532
Speaker 3: been courteous to me and let me through. And a

2092
01:39:36,612 --> 01:39:40,093
Speaker 3: couple of questions coming through, Tyler, were you hiding behind

2093
01:39:40,133 --> 01:39:42,053
Speaker 3: another car? No, they could see me. They can see

2094
01:39:42,133 --> 01:39:44,053
Speaker 3: me very clearly, And I just thought that was a

2095
01:39:44,093 --> 01:39:44,932
Speaker 3: bit cheeky of them.

2096
01:39:45,053 --> 01:39:46,092
Speaker 2: I think it is a bit cheeky.

2097
01:39:46,173 --> 01:39:47,253
Speaker 4: Yeah, But.

2098
01:39:49,612 --> 01:39:50,293
Speaker 2: Is there a rule?

2099
01:39:50,532 --> 01:39:51,372
Speaker 4: Is there a rule on that?

2100
01:39:51,893 --> 01:39:52,013
Speaker 11: Oh?

2101
01:39:52,093 --> 01:39:55,093
Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty? What are the unspoken rules

2102
01:39:55,093 --> 01:39:57,293
Speaker 3: of giving way on a narrow street? I mean, should

2103
01:39:57,333 --> 01:39:59,572
Speaker 3: I have just been maybe a better person and a

2104
01:39:59,612 --> 01:40:01,572
Speaker 3: better driver and let that person go through and then

2105
01:40:01,572 --> 01:40:03,692
Speaker 3: it wouldn't have been a problem. But the problem there

2106
01:40:03,812 --> 01:40:06,093
Speaker 3: is it's like a one way bridge, is that there

2107
01:40:06,173 --> 01:40:09,053
Speaker 3: are absolutely giveaway rules on a lot of those, but

2108
01:40:09,213 --> 01:40:11,213
Speaker 3: some people take advantage of that, you know, and they

2109
01:40:11,293 --> 01:40:14,333
Speaker 3: get into the position way longer than they should, and

2110
01:40:14,452 --> 01:40:16,133
Speaker 3: it gets a little bit annoying. I just think it's

2111
01:40:16,133 --> 01:40:17,052
Speaker 3: about being courteous.

2112
01:40:17,532 --> 01:40:19,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess it's not the kind of

2113
01:40:19,572 --> 01:40:21,412
Speaker 2: thing that could be in the road code because it's

2114
01:40:21,452 --> 01:40:24,532
Speaker 2: such a great area. I think I think you drive

2115
01:40:24,612 --> 01:40:26,852
Speaker 2: the friendly way by letting the first person through. I

2116
01:40:26,893 --> 01:40:29,532
Speaker 2: think the other person's being cheeky. But if they're being cheeky,

2117
01:40:29,572 --> 01:40:31,812
Speaker 2: I think just let them go. I think just let

2118
01:40:31,893 --> 01:40:32,093
Speaker 2: them go.

2119
01:40:32,293 --> 01:40:35,652
Speaker 3: Well it's controversial, Tyler, Yes, Tyler, you're a jerk, your

2120
01:40:35,692 --> 01:40:38,652
Speaker 3: small minded Tyler morge like a zip. You were right? Yes,

2121
01:40:38,732 --> 01:40:41,213
Speaker 3: the other person should have given our way to you. Oh,

2122
01:40:41,253 --> 01:40:42,852
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

2123
01:40:42,933 --> 01:40:44,452
Speaker 3: call term. What's your thoughts on this?

2124
01:40:45,412 --> 01:40:45,572
Speaker 12: Yeah?

2125
01:40:45,612 --> 01:40:49,732
Speaker 11: Great, guys, Okay, so it's one for one. Everybody knows

2126
01:40:49,812 --> 01:40:54,652
Speaker 11: that deep down some people were just arrogant. It's like

2127
01:40:54,732 --> 01:40:56,372
Speaker 11: if you're going down the street and there's a car

2128
01:40:56,532 --> 01:41:00,052
Speaker 11: parked on the side of the road, the person who's

2129
01:41:00,412 --> 01:41:02,133
Speaker 11: you know, if you're on that side of the road,

2130
01:41:03,572 --> 01:41:07,333
Speaker 11: you stop and allow the oncoming vehicle round it. It's not,

2131
01:41:07,853 --> 01:41:12,092
Speaker 11: you know, off by a parked vehicle. You don't shoot

2132
01:41:12,133 --> 01:41:12,452
Speaker 11: the gap.

2133
01:41:13,492 --> 01:41:13,612
Speaker 21: Uh.

2134
01:41:14,372 --> 01:41:17,213
Speaker 11: It's just common care, tocy and common sense.

2135
01:41:17,973 --> 01:41:20,612
Speaker 3: So in this case, I wasn't the jerk. Well maybe

2136
01:41:20,732 --> 01:41:21,452
Speaker 3: I was the duke.

2137
01:41:21,933 --> 01:41:24,572
Speaker 2: I am not at all, But how how far tim

2138
01:41:24,612 --> 01:41:27,692
Speaker 2: do you go to enforce that? So if the person

2139
01:41:27,772 --> 01:41:29,933
Speaker 2: has sped up to try and take advantage of the

2140
01:41:30,013 --> 01:41:32,093
Speaker 2: fact that you've pulled over and they've closed the gap.

2141
01:41:32,732 --> 01:41:39,372
Speaker 2: Do you then pull out to make a point of that, Well.

2142
01:41:39,732 --> 01:41:42,893
Speaker 11: You've got a sess to situation. Doesn't it's going to

2143
01:41:43,013 --> 01:41:47,692
Speaker 11: cause potential risk. Then they let them, let them go,

2144
01:41:47,853 --> 01:41:49,812
Speaker 11: and you just sometimes you've got to wear it, you know.

2145
01:41:50,652 --> 01:41:53,053
Speaker 11: And we're with the wish them a good day. But

2146
01:41:53,253 --> 01:41:56,213
Speaker 11: you know, things have a way of evening out. They'll

2147
01:41:56,452 --> 01:41:59,772
Speaker 11: they'll come across something down the road and it all

2148
01:42:00,013 --> 01:42:00,692
Speaker 11: hack them off.

2149
01:42:01,053 --> 01:42:05,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just you know, it's a nuance response. Actually,

2150
01:42:05,492 --> 01:42:08,333
Speaker 3: so I was in the right, but I was probably

2151
01:42:08,532 --> 01:42:10,572
Speaker 3: wrong and being a bit of a jerk by making

2152
01:42:10,652 --> 01:42:12,772
Speaker 3: the statement that I did. It turned out that person

2153
01:42:12,893 --> 01:42:16,932
Speaker 3: actually did try and move over because I effectively forced

2154
01:42:16,973 --> 01:42:17,173
Speaker 3: them to.

2155
01:42:17,412 --> 01:42:19,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, and before you get angry with people, you've got

2156
01:42:19,173 --> 01:42:21,293
Speaker 2: to realize that a certain amount of drivers don't really

2157
01:42:21,412 --> 01:42:23,213
Speaker 2: know what's going on and they're just making it up

2158
01:42:23,253 --> 01:42:25,852
Speaker 2: as they go and they don't know the rules, so

2159
01:42:25,973 --> 01:42:27,732
Speaker 2: they think you've pulled over. Okay, I'm going to speed

2160
01:42:27,853 --> 01:42:29,972
Speaker 2: up and get through because I just want to get

2161
01:42:29,973 --> 01:42:31,772
Speaker 2: this through as fast as I can to help this

2162
01:42:31,853 --> 01:42:32,333
Speaker 2: person out.

2163
01:42:32,412 --> 01:42:34,772
Speaker 3: And I did feel bad after because I think once

2164
01:42:34,853 --> 01:42:37,173
Speaker 3: they started to pull over. I realized at that point

2165
01:42:37,213 --> 01:42:40,333
Speaker 3: that there was no malice intended. They perhaps weren't trying

2166
01:42:40,333 --> 01:42:43,013
Speaker 3: to be cheeky. Maybe they thought, oh, this guy's pulled over,

2167
01:42:43,532 --> 01:42:45,812
Speaker 3: I'll take advantage of his good nature. But at that

2168
01:42:45,893 --> 01:42:46,972
Speaker 3: point I just got a bit grumpy.

2169
01:42:47,053 --> 01:42:48,532
Speaker 2: Well, I've got a secondary question of this. How do

2170
01:42:48,572 --> 01:42:50,652
Speaker 2: you feel if you've pulled over and the person that

2171
01:42:50,732 --> 01:42:52,532
Speaker 2: comes through that you've taken time out of your day

2172
01:42:53,173 --> 01:42:56,532
Speaker 2: to pull over because you're a friendly driver, and they

2173
01:42:56,572 --> 01:42:57,372
Speaker 2: don't give you the wave?

2174
01:42:57,612 --> 01:43:00,253
Speaker 3: Hate it? Hate it? And it is so annoyed and

2175
01:43:00,293 --> 01:43:01,173
Speaker 3: they don't even look at you.

2176
01:43:01,333 --> 01:43:02,973
Speaker 2: And do you follow that up? If they don't, you

2177
01:43:03,093 --> 01:43:04,812
Speaker 2: rapidly turn around and try and flip them the bird

2178
01:43:04,893 --> 01:43:05,732
Speaker 2: or give them a stink eye.

2179
01:43:06,013 --> 01:43:10,372
Speaker 3: Ah, maybe the stink guy definitely know the one hundred

2180
01:43:10,492 --> 01:43:13,173
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty Well follow up question. If you do

2181
01:43:13,293 --> 01:43:16,293
Speaker 3: something nice, you know, you're courteous to somebody on the road,

2182
01:43:16,492 --> 01:43:18,492
Speaker 3: and you pull over and give way or you let

2183
01:43:18,572 --> 01:43:20,372
Speaker 3: them in and you don't get a wave, how do

2184
01:43:20,412 --> 01:43:22,293
Speaker 3: you feel about that? Does that make you upset? You're

2185
01:43:22,652 --> 01:43:23,452
Speaker 3: sin guy these days?

2186
01:43:23,492 --> 01:43:23,692
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2187
01:43:23,692 --> 01:43:23,852
Speaker 9: I am.

2188
01:43:24,133 --> 01:43:27,372
Speaker 2: I used to really really drive me absolutely crazy, But

2189
01:43:27,452 --> 01:43:29,772
Speaker 2: then I thought, look, I don't know. You know, I'm

2190
01:43:29,772 --> 01:43:31,452
Speaker 2: a good person. I pulled over. I can just live

2191
01:43:31,492 --> 01:43:33,972
Speaker 2: on that. Why they didn't wave at me? Who knows?

2192
01:43:34,013 --> 01:43:35,772
Speaker 2: I can't. You've got to just wake up in the morning.

2193
01:43:35,893 --> 01:43:37,852
Speaker 2: Except that some people are rude and just courteous and

2194
01:43:37,893 --> 01:43:39,372
Speaker 2: you've just got to do the right thing because it's

2195
01:43:39,412 --> 01:43:41,372
Speaker 2: the right thing to do. You don't know. Maybe they're

2196
01:43:41,372 --> 01:43:44,013
Speaker 2: missing an arm, maybe they're a person, but it's just

2197
01:43:44,053 --> 01:43:46,133
Speaker 2: only got just got the left hand on the steering Well,

2198
01:43:46,173 --> 01:43:48,532
Speaker 2: that's that, and that's why they didn't raise. You can't.

2199
01:43:48,772 --> 01:43:51,972
Speaker 2: You can't put motives on people. So whilst I used

2200
01:43:51,973 --> 01:43:53,492
Speaker 2: to get annoyed when people didn't wave when I did

2201
01:43:53,532 --> 01:43:55,412
Speaker 2: something courteous on the road, now now I'm just in

2202
01:43:55,572 --> 01:43:55,852
Speaker 2: about it.

2203
01:43:55,973 --> 01:43:58,612
Speaker 3: You've changed, Matt. You've changed. One hundred and eighty ten

2204
01:43:58,652 --> 01:44:01,452
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. It is twenty wonderful.

2205
01:44:02,412 --> 01:44:05,532
Speaker 1: Mattie Taylor Adams with with you as your afternoon rolls on.

2206
01:44:05,853 --> 01:44:08,892
Speaker 1: Matt even Taylor Adams afternoons talks.

2207
01:44:08,933 --> 01:44:12,213
Speaker 3: It'd be nineteen to four. We've kicked off something here, Matt.

2208
01:44:12,333 --> 01:44:14,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, I tell you what hot topic full lines and

2209
01:44:14,572 --> 01:44:17,412
Speaker 2: just text affter texts coming through Tyler maybe the other

2210
01:44:17,452 --> 01:44:19,772
Speaker 2: guy thought, I bet this dickers from Kenbury. He won't

2211
01:44:19,812 --> 01:44:23,093
Speaker 2: wait for me another person, says Bollocks Tyler. If the

2212
01:44:23,133 --> 01:44:25,732
Speaker 2: guy split up and was immediately behind the first car,

2213
01:44:25,812 --> 01:44:28,173
Speaker 2: he's one hundred percent fine. Why shouldn't he It would

2214
01:44:28,173 --> 01:44:30,652
Speaker 2: delay you about two seconds? Seriously, not an issue. You

2215
01:44:30,732 --> 01:44:32,053
Speaker 2: were wrong on this one, cheers Pat.

2216
01:44:32,173 --> 01:44:34,412
Speaker 3: I thank your pet. John, what do you reckon.

2217
01:44:36,133 --> 01:44:36,772
Speaker 5: Last corner?

2218
01:44:36,853 --> 01:44:40,412
Speaker 24: Absolutely wrong? It's common said to John and jerosy Emerg's

2219
01:44:40,532 --> 01:44:43,012
Speaker 24: Like I said, hey, it's a funny thing. Yet thirty

2220
01:44:43,053 --> 01:44:45,812
Speaker 24: five years ago when I moved here, this could never

2221
01:44:45,893 --> 01:44:50,173
Speaker 24: have happened because Keywoy's never let anyone in the said

2222
01:44:51,572 --> 01:44:53,893
Speaker 24: you've let people in little service taste or something like that,

2223
01:44:54,293 --> 01:44:56,652
Speaker 24: and they would they wouldn't say thanks, they wouldn't look

2224
01:44:56,692 --> 01:45:00,612
Speaker 24: at you. It was weird, yeah, robut absolutely the way

2225
01:45:00,692 --> 01:45:02,293
Speaker 24: to do it. And I do a few one lane

2226
01:45:02,293 --> 01:45:05,612
Speaker 24: bridges and narrow streets. It we're all doing it together,

2227
01:45:05,772 --> 01:45:09,372
Speaker 24: like yeah, taking it terms anything else not comic Jersey,

2228
01:45:09,452 --> 01:45:12,253
Speaker 24: and if it ain't comic Jersey, it ain't common sense.

2229
01:45:12,492 --> 01:45:15,973
Speaker 24: Finally that you can you said, maybe she doesn't have

2230
01:45:16,053 --> 01:45:18,452
Speaker 24: an arm, and you can't assume what the Moody is

2231
01:45:18,893 --> 01:45:20,892
Speaker 24: that's like saying, you know, what do we do about

2232
01:45:21,013 --> 01:45:23,812
Speaker 24: you know, why did you send a datus mandated and

2233
01:45:23,893 --> 01:45:27,172
Speaker 24: full to her vaccinations? We can't just guess what the makers?

2234
01:45:28,532 --> 01:45:32,093
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I guess, I guess. My wider point is

2235
01:45:32,133 --> 01:45:34,173
Speaker 2: that you can spend your whole life being annoyed at people,

2236
01:45:34,213 --> 01:45:36,692
Speaker 2: but you don't really know that. It just doesn't make

2237
01:45:36,772 --> 01:45:40,372
Speaker 2: your life better if you are getting annoyed with people.

2238
01:45:40,572 --> 01:45:45,492
Speaker 2: And as as Texas said that sexually plays into two

2239
01:45:45,893 --> 01:45:47,812
Speaker 2: that later on we're going to play some songs from

2240
01:45:47,893 --> 01:45:50,812
Speaker 2: Quincy Jones, who passed away yesterday. He said the lesson

2241
01:45:50,893 --> 01:45:52,812
Speaker 2: that he learned most of his life as a producer.

2242
01:45:53,093 --> 01:45:55,173
Speaker 2: A textas sent this through is you've just got to

2243
01:45:55,412 --> 01:45:57,532
Speaker 2: let go of resentment and move on.

2244
01:45:59,452 --> 01:46:01,093
Speaker 3: Thank you, John, How are you?

2245
01:46:02,772 --> 01:46:02,972
Speaker 19: Yeah?

2246
01:46:03,053 --> 01:46:07,253
Speaker 25: Hi guys, I now, but like you make me, Tyler,

2247
01:46:07,412 --> 01:46:11,013
Speaker 25: I now slow and wave. Then when I drive, it

2248
01:46:11,333 --> 01:46:13,932
Speaker 25: doesn't matter what they do. I'm still going a good time.

2249
01:46:15,333 --> 01:46:18,772
Speaker 25: Rule number one that downhill system gives way, So you're

2250
01:46:18,812 --> 01:46:23,213
Speaker 25: going down the hill, always give way. And like the

2251
01:46:24,173 --> 01:46:28,573
Speaker 25: Australian that just was on, I agree, particularly in driving.

2252
01:46:28,293 --> 01:46:34,612
Speaker 23: Around orphans is they put those super pedestrian safety things

2253
01:46:34,652 --> 01:46:37,333
Speaker 23: in that seem to me just stick at dandres. So

2254
01:46:37,412 --> 01:46:41,012
Speaker 23: there's lots more, you know, one way spots all.

2255
01:46:41,013 --> 01:46:41,492
Speaker 20: Over the show.

2256
01:46:42,412 --> 01:46:45,213
Speaker 23: People aren't getting better and better at giving way, and

2257
01:46:45,293 --> 01:46:49,012
Speaker 23: you know it's a two second thing. Smile, waves, carry on. Yeah,

2258
01:46:49,013 --> 01:46:51,253
Speaker 23: I get pissed off. I get more pissed off if

2259
01:46:51,253 --> 01:46:53,852
Speaker 23: they don't smile and wave then if they don't give way.

2260
01:46:54,372 --> 01:46:54,572
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2261
01:46:54,652 --> 01:46:56,652
Speaker 2: But so I agree with you as well. You've just

2262
01:46:56,692 --> 01:46:58,932
Speaker 2: got to go around and you can't let people. It's

2263
01:46:59,053 --> 01:47:02,932
Speaker 2: dangerous if you just let people's rude behavior ruin your day.

2264
01:47:03,293 --> 01:47:05,012
Speaker 2: So you've just got to be the person that drives

2265
01:47:05,053 --> 01:47:08,492
Speaker 2: courteously and smiles and you wave and when people you

2266
01:47:08,612 --> 01:47:11,133
Speaker 2: in you you flash the hazards at them to say

2267
01:47:11,572 --> 01:47:13,372
Speaker 2: thank you. You've just got to be that person. But

2268
01:47:13,412 --> 01:47:15,372
Speaker 2: I think you'lso bring up another interesting point. So I

2269
01:47:15,492 --> 01:47:17,812
Speaker 2: think most people don't know that rule that you have

2270
01:47:17,973 --> 01:47:20,572
Speaker 2: to give way to the person that's going up up

2271
01:47:20,652 --> 01:47:24,213
Speaker 2: to hell. I think people have totally forgotten that one.

2272
01:47:26,372 --> 01:47:28,852
Speaker 25: Yeah, and we've got we too.

2273
01:47:28,933 --> 01:47:30,972
Speaker 23: Recently hit some roads around us that have all got

2274
01:47:31,093 --> 01:47:33,772
Speaker 23: narrow spots now, and one of them has a bus

2275
01:47:34,333 --> 01:47:36,293
Speaker 23: and only half the bus drivers they pissed me off,

2276
01:47:36,452 --> 01:47:38,732
Speaker 23: and half the bus drivers big way for the downhill.

2277
01:47:38,933 --> 01:47:41,133
Speaker 23: And I still smile and wave, and I hope that

2278
01:47:41,213 --> 01:47:45,253
Speaker 23: they learn you're a great way you go to.

2279
01:47:48,572 --> 01:47:48,612
Speaker 15: Go.

2280
01:47:49,173 --> 01:47:50,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to put into the universe. You've got

2281
01:47:51,053 --> 01:47:53,412
Speaker 2: to put out into the universe. So what you want

2282
01:47:53,452 --> 01:47:55,652
Speaker 2: the universe to put out to you? So if you

2283
01:47:55,853 --> 01:47:57,732
Speaker 2: if you go around being annoyed a people because they

2284
01:47:57,732 --> 01:48:00,932
Speaker 2: don't smile and wave, then then that just ruins your

2285
01:48:01,013 --> 01:48:02,772
Speaker 2: day and fills you full of hatred. But if you

2286
01:48:03,173 --> 01:48:05,253
Speaker 2: if you smile and you do the right thing, if

2287
01:48:05,293 --> 01:48:08,213
Speaker 2: someone someone lets you in and smile at them, then

2288
01:48:08,253 --> 01:48:10,013
Speaker 2: you just know that you're doing the right thing and

2289
01:48:10,053 --> 01:48:13,852
Speaker 2: you're a good member of society, and the love will

2290
01:48:13,893 --> 01:48:14,572
Speaker 2: flow out from you.

2291
01:48:14,692 --> 01:48:14,972
Speaker 4: Tyler.

2292
01:48:15,053 --> 01:48:18,652
Speaker 3: It's a great philosophy. But here's the thing about, and

2293
01:48:18,732 --> 01:48:21,253
Speaker 3: I don't think that annoys me as much as someone

2294
01:48:21,333 --> 01:48:23,612
Speaker 3: who feels like they're taking the mick. You know, when

2295
01:48:23,652 --> 01:48:25,492
Speaker 3: I've done a nice thing and it felt like they

2296
01:48:25,532 --> 01:48:27,652
Speaker 3: were taking the mick. But the thing about if you

2297
01:48:27,772 --> 01:48:29,893
Speaker 3: do something nice and they don't even look at you,

2298
01:48:29,973 --> 01:48:33,492
Speaker 3: they don't wave, then that has got a chain reaction

2299
01:48:33,812 --> 01:48:37,093
Speaker 3: because then you say, what even do this Why why

2300
01:48:37,173 --> 01:48:38,452
Speaker 3: am I curd You do it to people?

2301
01:48:38,572 --> 01:48:39,772
Speaker 2: You do it because it's the right thing. But I

2302
01:48:39,772 --> 01:48:41,492
Speaker 2: actually want to pull you up on this because you've

2303
01:48:41,492 --> 01:48:44,412
Speaker 2: got to think about what keeps the traffic going smoothly.

2304
01:48:44,532 --> 01:48:47,093
Speaker 2: Right now, so you've pulled over, another car goes through,

2305
01:48:47,133 --> 01:48:49,452
Speaker 2: the person behind them speeds up to get through, So

2306
01:48:49,532 --> 01:48:52,013
Speaker 2: it's only adding another two seconds as opposed to the

2307
01:48:52,093 --> 01:48:54,573
Speaker 2: rigmarole of them pulling over and then you pulling.

2308
01:48:54,333 --> 01:48:57,932
Speaker 3: Out dark coming downhill as well? Did I mention that, oh,

2309
01:48:58,053 --> 01:49:00,213
Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

2310
01:49:00,253 --> 01:49:00,812
Speaker 3: get a fill?

2311
01:49:01,812 --> 01:49:05,052
Speaker 17: Yeah, just a little quick point. I've got a number

2312
01:49:05,053 --> 01:49:08,293
Speaker 17: of drivers that I meant done for thirty five year

2313
01:49:08,452 --> 01:49:10,572
Speaker 17: is in christ Church, and christ Us is a pain

2314
01:49:10,652 --> 01:49:13,772
Speaker 17: in the house with the streets, and I've had to

2315
01:49:13,853 --> 01:49:15,692
Speaker 17: go into court a number of times to try and

2316
01:49:15,772 --> 01:49:19,333
Speaker 17: defend them the law regarding that, and most of my

2317
01:49:19,452 --> 01:49:23,173
Speaker 17: drivers have lost as there's the sense of line, even

2318
01:49:23,173 --> 01:49:25,772
Speaker 17: if it's not there, there's an imaginary center line. If

2319
01:49:26,053 --> 01:49:28,652
Speaker 17: you cross over the center line and this person coming

2320
01:49:28,652 --> 01:49:31,572
Speaker 17: the other way actually has the right they haven't crossed

2321
01:49:31,572 --> 01:49:35,093
Speaker 17: the center line. You're in the wrong, ah, so they

2322
01:49:35,293 --> 01:49:38,133
Speaker 17: have right away. It doesn't matter how many cars you've

2323
01:49:38,253 --> 01:49:41,893
Speaker 17: let through. If you your driver or you cross the

2324
01:49:41,973 --> 01:49:45,093
Speaker 17: center line, then you're in You're in trouble. So if

2325
01:49:45,173 --> 01:49:47,852
Speaker 17: they want to really push it, then I can run

2326
01:49:47,893 --> 01:49:48,892
Speaker 17: into you and you pay.

2327
01:49:49,372 --> 01:49:53,333
Speaker 3: What if both drivers have crossed the center line, well.

2328
01:49:53,253 --> 01:49:57,093
Speaker 17: That's well, then best champs coming, really hampty, that's pretty simple.

2329
01:49:57,173 --> 01:49:59,852
Speaker 17: On most roads, I'm setting on a stupid little cross

2330
01:49:59,853 --> 01:50:02,973
Speaker 17: to each road at the moment and there is no

2331
01:50:03,133 --> 01:50:05,852
Speaker 17: center line. But this car is all down one side. Now,

2332
01:50:06,692 --> 01:50:11,052
Speaker 17: if I or my guys goes and they hit someone

2333
01:50:11,333 --> 01:50:14,412
Speaker 17: coming the other way because it doesn't give ways, they're

2334
01:50:14,412 --> 01:50:16,812
Speaker 17: going to go anyway youve no matter how many cars

2335
01:50:16,893 --> 01:50:20,173
Speaker 17: my guys there throw, he isn't the wrong. The same

2336
01:50:21,053 --> 01:50:24,213
Speaker 17: with that particular role that we're doing. We don't have

2337
01:50:24,253 --> 01:50:27,493
Speaker 17: to wear seat belt, and I'm just defending another guy's

2338
01:50:27,772 --> 01:50:31,052
Speaker 17: got a ticket for no seat belt. And the story

2339
01:50:31,253 --> 01:50:33,692
Speaker 17: is it was actually made up for postings back in

2340
01:50:33,732 --> 01:50:37,772
Speaker 17: the old days and now used for couriers and milkman.

2341
01:50:38,612 --> 01:50:41,133
Speaker 17: If you're doing less than two hundred and fifty k's

2342
01:50:41,173 --> 01:50:45,293
Speaker 17: between calls, then you don't need to wear a seat

2343
01:50:45,293 --> 01:50:47,612
Speaker 17: belt and out and then that all the time. The

2344
01:50:47,812 --> 01:50:50,852
Speaker 17: Caurier drivers and what not. But the center line is

2345
01:50:51,213 --> 01:50:55,253
Speaker 17: designing the deciding line. That's if you go over the

2346
01:50:55,293 --> 01:50:57,133
Speaker 17: center line, your rights are gone.

2347
01:50:57,452 --> 01:51:00,492
Speaker 3: Interesting, so that supersedes the if you're going up or

2348
01:51:00,772 --> 01:51:02,092
Speaker 3: downhill give way rule.

2349
01:51:02,213 --> 01:51:05,812
Speaker 17: That was initially made because I a lot of big trucks.

2350
01:51:05,893 --> 01:51:09,452
Speaker 17: But anyway, that was initially made because to put a

2351
01:51:09,492 --> 01:51:11,532
Speaker 17: big track to come down, like going down Lewis Pass,

2352
01:51:11,732 --> 01:51:15,492
Speaker 17: there's two one way bridges, little we short ones, and

2353
01:51:15,612 --> 01:51:18,612
Speaker 17: a guy coming down if he has to stop, then

2354
01:51:18,612 --> 01:51:20,452
Speaker 17: he loses brakes and time he gets to the bottom,

2355
01:51:20,973 --> 01:51:21,892
Speaker 17: he's gone. He's finished.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I got it.

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01:51:22,933 --> 01:51:26,333
Speaker 2: Yep, that's really interesting. So I've had that round round

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01:51:26,372 --> 01:51:29,213
Speaker 2: the wrong way my entire life because I always thought

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01:51:29,333 --> 01:51:32,412
Speaker 2: that you gave way to the person going uphill. I

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01:51:32,452 --> 01:51:34,053
Speaker 2: always thought it was because it was harder to go

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01:51:34,213 --> 01:51:36,173
Speaker 2: up the hill than then to come down the hill,

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01:51:36,213 --> 01:51:37,972
Speaker 2: and you had more control. So I've had that round

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Speaker 2: the wrong way.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I got a guy in you know, like it.

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01:51:42,173 --> 01:51:44,253
Speaker 17: Now they're up to fifty six ton, but in my

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01:51:44,412 --> 01:51:47,812
Speaker 17: day we're at forty two maximum. You can still set

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01:51:47,853 --> 01:51:49,532
Speaker 17: up and pull again, and you're going to get up

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01:51:50,933 --> 01:51:52,973
Speaker 17: as long as you've got traction, you will get up

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01:51:52,973 --> 01:51:55,652
Speaker 17: the heill by coming down if he loses, if he's

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01:51:55,652 --> 01:51:58,093
Speaker 17: still to really stop, you know, if if there's a

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01:51:58,133 --> 01:52:01,012
Speaker 17: B train, then then he's in trouble.

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Speaker 2: Is that naturally? Is that a Is that a road

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01:52:03,452 --> 01:52:05,772
Speaker 2: code code rule? Is that an official rule or is

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01:52:05,772 --> 01:52:07,213
Speaker 2: it just sort of a driving rule.

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Speaker 17: Of thumb suggestions. I've never had to go to court

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01:52:11,572 --> 01:52:14,293
Speaker 17: for that one. I don't know anyone who has. But

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01:52:14,452 --> 01:52:17,452
Speaker 17: the other one, hell, yeah, so was it a myth?

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01:52:17,692 --> 01:52:18,612
Speaker 3: A trucky going up?

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01:52:18,692 --> 01:52:18,892
Speaker 4: Hell?

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01:52:19,133 --> 01:52:21,372
Speaker 3: And I always thought this that if they for whatever

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01:52:21,452 --> 01:52:24,532
Speaker 3: reason stop momentum, it's going to be near and possible

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01:52:24,572 --> 01:52:26,372
Speaker 3: to get that truck started to get up that Hell?

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01:52:26,532 --> 01:52:27,213
Speaker 3: Is that just a myth?

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01:52:27,293 --> 01:52:30,412
Speaker 17: So long as they've got traction and infect the modern

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01:52:30,893 --> 01:52:33,972
Speaker 17: because on the old day they had eating trans exules

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01:52:34,013 --> 01:52:36,012
Speaker 17: in the head of road ranger eating speed or thirty

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01:52:36,013 --> 01:52:40,572
Speaker 17: in speed gearbox, and you didn't use the clutch very much.

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01:52:41,612 --> 01:52:44,372
Speaker 17: You don't have to apart from starting off and stopping.

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01:52:45,173 --> 01:52:48,333
Speaker 17: But yeah, so if you've got crawl against that go

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01:52:48,412 --> 01:52:52,213
Speaker 17: down to zero, can you're going? Stopping is your big problem.

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01:52:52,652 --> 01:52:54,492
Speaker 17: That's where you don't want to go to lose his

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01:52:54,572 --> 01:52:57,333
Speaker 17: breaks and of course, my break's going down the Lewis

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01:52:57,372 --> 01:53:02,612
Speaker 17: once and Scarnia. Holy shit. Yeah, I did change a

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01:53:02,652 --> 01:53:03,772
Speaker 17: lot of things when I got down the wall.

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01:53:04,213 --> 01:53:06,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, makes makes a lot of sense.

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01:53:06,173 --> 01:53:06,452
Speaker 11: There was.

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01:53:06,612 --> 01:53:08,973
Speaker 3: There's there's a particularly trick for as part of the

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01:53:09,053 --> 01:53:12,732
Speaker 3: road just after Arthur's passed, you know that, Phil, And

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01:53:12,853 --> 01:53:15,852
Speaker 3: apparently truckies have a real issue with that sometimes, right

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01:53:15,973 --> 01:53:19,732
Speaker 3: is it's so steep. I think there's another lane that

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01:53:19,933 --> 01:53:22,053
Speaker 3: exists if you do, if your breaks do give out,

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01:53:22,213 --> 01:53:24,053
Speaker 3: at least you've got a lane there that you can

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01:53:24,173 --> 01:53:26,132
Speaker 3: kind of hopefully try and slow down somewhat.

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01:53:26,933 --> 01:53:29,333
Speaker 17: Yeah, in Aussie because they got the room, they've got

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01:53:29,412 --> 01:53:31,933
Speaker 17: runoff hereas run off areas everywhere. Yeah, so if you

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01:53:31,973 --> 01:53:34,572
Speaker 17: get in the crap. Yeah, I didn't mean to swear

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01:53:34,732 --> 01:53:38,092
Speaker 17: sorry earlier on, but yeah, no, it can be a problem.

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01:53:38,133 --> 01:53:41,612
Speaker 17: But as far as that center line is concerned, if

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01:53:41,692 --> 01:53:44,293
Speaker 17: you cross the center line you lose your rights.

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01:53:44,572 --> 01:53:46,572
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, thank you for this, Phil.

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01:53:47,093 --> 01:53:49,253
Speaker 2: I've just looked up just looked up this rule here

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01:53:49,293 --> 01:53:51,812
Speaker 2: and it says on steep narrow roads, it's easier for

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01:53:51,933 --> 01:53:54,452
Speaker 2: vehicles moving downhill to give way to uphill traffic when

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01:53:54,452 --> 01:53:56,333
Speaker 2: approaching a corner of a hill, travel at a speed

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01:53:56,372 --> 01:53:58,293
Speaker 2: that you can safely stop within the visible stretch of

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01:53:58,372 --> 01:54:01,173
Speaker 2: road in front of you. But that doesn't make sense.

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01:54:01,213 --> 01:54:03,293
Speaker 2: If you've got a truck that's coming down the hill

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01:54:03,412 --> 01:54:05,692
Speaker 2: and it's going to struggle, it's going to be harder

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01:54:05,732 --> 01:54:06,293
Speaker 2: for them to stop.

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01:54:06,452 --> 01:54:08,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's game set a match. Actually, I cross

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01:54:08,812 --> 01:54:10,972
Speaker 3: the white line, the middle line, which I probably did.

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01:54:11,213 --> 01:54:13,652
Speaker 3: Shame on me. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: is a number to call. It is eight minutes to four.

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01:54:17,213 --> 01:54:20,572
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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01:54:20,933 --> 01:54:24,612
Speaker 1: everything in between. That Heath and Tayler Adams Afternoons you

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01:54:24,812 --> 01:54:27,572
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four US talk, sa'd be six.

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Speaker 3: Minutes to four. What are you pointing at me, Tyler

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01:54:30,893 --> 01:54:32,852
Speaker 3: for we're gonna be talking about Quincy Jones. Well, I'll

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01:54:32,893 --> 01:54:34,972
Speaker 3: just sort of say to wrap that, Uh yeah, that's right. Nearly,

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01:54:35,013 --> 01:54:36,693
Speaker 3: I've got to be I've got to be a better

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01:54:36,812 --> 01:54:39,693
Speaker 3: zen driver and I wall and it wouldn't have hurt

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01:54:39,733 --> 01:54:41,213
Speaker 3: me too much going through.

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01:54:41,533 --> 01:54:43,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, sorry, I understand what you're saying. Yeah, hoily,

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01:54:43,173 --> 01:54:45,012
Speaker 2: I'm professional. It's only a second month of doing the show.

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01:54:45,133 --> 01:54:48,213
Speaker 2: We were going to say that you do give way

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01:54:48,333 --> 01:54:49,293
Speaker 2: to traffic going up.

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01:54:49,333 --> 01:54:51,733
Speaker 3: Oh yes, Phil, lovely guy, but a lot of tears

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01:54:51,772 --> 01:54:54,453
Speaker 3: coming through saying wrong, wrong, wrong, absolute rubbish. We work

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01:54:54,493 --> 01:54:57,052
Speaker 3: on ski roads with shuttles, always give way to uphill traffic.

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Speaker 11: So there you go.

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01:54:58,013 --> 01:54:59,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, Now on to Quincy Jones. So

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01:55:00,053 --> 01:55:03,653
Speaker 2: Quincy Jones Junior was an American record producer, songwriter, composer,

2443
01:55:03,693 --> 01:55:07,733
Speaker 2: a arranger in film and television, producer, incredibly successful musician,

2444
01:55:08,373 --> 01:55:10,333
Speaker 2: amazing producer, one of the greatest of all time, one

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01:55:10,333 --> 01:55:12,293
Speaker 2: of the greatest geniuses ever. I mean, apart from all

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01:55:12,333 --> 01:55:15,173
Speaker 2: this music he did for movies and television and all

2447
01:55:15,173 --> 01:55:18,573
Speaker 2: the producing he did, he also produced television, so it

2448
01:55:18,653 --> 01:55:21,413
Speaker 2: was like the fresh Prince of Ballia. His career spent

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01:55:21,573 --> 01:55:26,213
Speaker 2: seventy years, twenty eight Grammy Awards, and yeah, he won

2450
01:55:26,293 --> 01:55:29,533
Speaker 2: the Grammy Legend Award in nineteen ninety two. So he

2451
01:55:29,653 --> 01:55:32,493
Speaker 2: passed ninety one yesterday. So I thought i'd celebrate the

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01:55:33,093 --> 01:55:36,573
Speaker 2: top five Quincy Jones songs that he's either produced or

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01:55:36,613 --> 01:55:38,172
Speaker 2: written from nineteen eighty.

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01:55:40,893 --> 01:55:43,333
Speaker 3: From George Benson who Love That.

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01:55:45,533 --> 01:55:54,173
Speaker 2: Shot at number four from nine ninety three, Michael Jackson

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01:55:54,293 --> 01:55:57,893
Speaker 2: Billy Jean from the thriller album phenomenal. Here you go

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01:55:57,973 --> 01:56:00,173
Speaker 2: from nineteen sixty two. This is how long his career was.

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01:56:00,253 --> 01:56:04,973
Speaker 2: He wrote this song Soul Boss and Over. It's a

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01:56:05,053 --> 01:56:06,812
Speaker 2: huge at ninety sixty nine, but you probably know it

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01:56:06,933 --> 01:56:11,653
Speaker 2: from Austin Powers. There what a tune. Another one from

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01:56:11,693 --> 01:56:15,173
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson. This is my second top Quincy Jones rated

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01:56:15,213 --> 01:56:24,293
Speaker 2: song nine Michael Jackson. Just an insanely great song and

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01:56:24,533 --> 01:56:28,733
Speaker 2: the number one in my opinion. Quincy Jones produced song

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01:56:28,812 --> 01:56:33,653
Speaker 2: of all time USA for Africa.

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01:56:34,573 --> 01:56:37,892
Speaker 3: We are the world fantastic raist and peace. Quincy Jones,

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01:56:37,933 --> 01:56:40,292
Speaker 3: thank you for today. We'll do it all again tomorrow.

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