WEBVTT - EP 34 - Kura Turuwhenua

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Flavor podcast network Island Roots Auckland Ways. This

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<v Speaker 1>one's for the Brown brothers and sisters who want to

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<v Speaker 1>be one with themselves, their culture, their identity, their roots.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Island Roots Auckland Ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Solo for love Everyone and welcome back to Island Roots

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<v Speaker 2>Auckland Ways. Hello Alissa, Hello Im that you're wearing right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. It's from let's all take a guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Where can it possibly be? From? Ruby?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm obsessed at this point. They need to come

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<v Speaker 2>out with a collection and your name.

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<v Speaker 1>Please or like, I don't know, I could do like

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<v Speaker 1>a little sponsorship Ruby. If you're listening, shout out come

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<v Speaker 1>on Ruby. I was actually recognizing a Ruby recently. Shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to Gene. She works at Ruby, and she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I love your podcast, and I was like, I'm obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Hook it up, hook us a.

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<v Speaker 2>Step up with some free clothes le weirs Ruby like

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<v Speaker 2>orally for Sive.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, people don't even ask you what I'm wearing. Anybody

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<v Speaker 1>that's a nice top. I love a red pink moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Me too, the red pink moments.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's giving like Rihanna on one side, Nicki Minaj

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<v Speaker 2>on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Other Okay, Pink Friday, My rebel fragrance.

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<v Speaker 2>Was cool, Yes, which is good, By the way, is

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<v Speaker 2>it really as well as our guest smelling?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what could have smells like? Sorry, why

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<v Speaker 1>I've been trying to work on my seatways lately. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>mind a way, A bit of the jaw that is

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<v Speaker 1>literally incredible. Like I was saying to her off the mic,

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<v Speaker 1>she just speaks with such integral and it's so clear

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<v Speaker 1>that she's so genuine about what she's saying. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no mistaking where she stands.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah something Everything she sees comes from her heart, like

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<v Speaker 2>she would like take these pauses before she spoke.

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<v Speaker 1>They just drop the hardest value your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly you but just couldn't even write what she said

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<v Speaker 2>in an essay.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh fuck you bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>So here is Kudaina right now on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to another episode of Island Routes, awkand Ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Please welcome comedian writer all around legend could sort of fat.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome Kudda. How are you going today?

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<v Speaker 3>All good?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Did you get an okay? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah yeah. I drove in and it was starting

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<v Speaker 3>to rain, but I was just saying before that the

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<v Speaker 3>studio is so soundproof, like because there's Hundi's raining before.

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<v Speaker 1>You can hear a thing. Yeah magic, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well could have. As always, we like to show

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<v Speaker 2>what we love about home. So whatever home is to you,

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<v Speaker 2>if you think of home and you think of maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's where you live or where you grew up or

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<v Speaker 2>where you go away, and consider home, what is home

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<v Speaker 2>to you and what do you love about it? We

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<v Speaker 2>will start off first and Alyssa, what do you love

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<v Speaker 2>about home this week?

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually I think I've definitely shared that I love

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<v Speaker 1>this about home before, but it's the botanical gardens and

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<v Speaker 1>money they were Yes, I live in Reware, was brought

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<v Speaker 1>up in Rewa and the gardens is like such a

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<v Speaker 1>such a spot and money there was it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I went there for the first time in several years

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<v Speaker 2>for Matadi y Yeah, and it was gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 1>It's bigger than I remember. It's actually really big and

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<v Speaker 1>it's really nice and I recently did the mistake of

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<v Speaker 1>taking a boy there and so I feel like I've

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<v Speaker 1>had to go there a lot recently and just like

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<v Speaker 1>reclaim the space for myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you like go in and just like freaking like

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<v Speaker 2>with holy water.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very much that. No, I actually did. I took

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<v Speaker 1>my friend Dorin there and we had like sit on

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<v Speaker 1>the bench right, and I was like, can we just

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<v Speaker 1>sit here for a moment, just reclaim this bench.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, rebuked energy that were once there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Did the guy do something weird?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah he got he got cat put it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think my cousin's also taken, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>And then just been like.

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<v Speaker 2>You's sorry, better fly very.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad sorry dog park. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>What I love about home this week is.

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<v Speaker 1>I love my cooking girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, really because I've gone flooding and so like I've

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<v Speaker 2>had to rely on myself. You really have to rely

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<v Speaker 2>on yourself for ship. Yeah, like you need a cook

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<v Speaker 2>for yourself, you need a clean after yourself, like all

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<v Speaker 2>these things when you live with your family, like it's

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<v Speaker 2>a shared task. It kind of is to an extent

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<v Speaker 2>when you're floing, but there's more ownership that you do it,

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<v Speaker 2>like you clean up after.

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<v Speaker 1>Has this been like a big culture shock for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just always used to like my nana's cooking or

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<v Speaker 2>my papa's cooking, or getting home and my mum has

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<v Speaker 2>cooked something. So I guess like not that I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know how to cook, because I knew how to cook,

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<v Speaker 2>but just that I'm cooking more and I'm like learning

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<v Speaker 2>to romanticize at all and still seeing it as a

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<v Speaker 2>chore because that's what you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's like fun alone time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, put the ear pods on Jammer podcasts and studying

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite dishes right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Stir fry. Love a stir fry. You just jam hoist.

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<v Speaker 2>And sauce, oyster sauce, fish sauce, yep, and then your

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<v Speaker 2>protein of your choice. What are my other faves?

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<v Speaker 1>I love a good toasty, A nice toasty toasty.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a nice m What else I love?

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<v Speaker 1>I love a big brickie. You guys love big breakfasts. No,

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<v Speaker 1>there's too much going on? Is it too much for you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Similar to the similar Before we were on the mic,

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying, how sad which is sometimes overwhelmed my

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<v Speaker 1>tastebuds and my like sensation, they get like sensory overload.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like sometimes a big breakfast I get sinsory overload.

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<v Speaker 3>How about you could have big breakfast can be quite

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<v Speaker 3>hardcore for me? I reckon, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, it's just what's too much about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's just because it's the first thing that

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<v Speaker 3>your body has got to deal with, true, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh man, I've only just woken up and you've just

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<v Speaker 3>like filled me with every food group, possibly because.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like calves, there's meat. Another very ation.

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<v Speaker 3>One that's interesting what you said before though about like

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<v Speaker 3>flooding and and having to rely on yourself, because that

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<v Speaker 3>I had the same experience because I grew up with

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<v Speaker 3>quite a big household, and yeah, everyone is relying on

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<v Speaker 3>each other, and that's kind of the be a minimum,

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's the base level expectation from everyone. But then

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<v Speaker 3>when you're in a flat, like when I was living

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<v Speaker 3>in an apartment in Uni, I was like, whoa, we

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<v Speaker 3>really are out here of fending for ourselves right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Suddenly what you thought was the be a minimum is

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<v Speaker 3>actually quite a lot for real.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro even like stuff like cleaning and things like that

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be organized. Where As like if you live

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<v Speaker 2>with your family, it's almost like you read each other's

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<v Speaker 2>minds and you're like.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, i'll do I'll do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But like it needs to be like divv up

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<v Speaker 2>properly in a flat situation, if you get what.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, do you have are you flitting at the moment? No? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a roster in your flat? No? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Now do you guys read each other's minds or do

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<v Speaker 1>you just tell someone you're going to do something? We

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<v Speaker 1>just tell each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, that's all. You sort of feel the simmering tension.

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<v Speaker 3>Just wait for the group group chat, passage prisons.

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<v Speaker 1>Thankfully, I don't. Yeah, we just tell each other.

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<v Speaker 2>But the whole cooking thing, we have like very like

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<v Speaker 2>diverse tastes and food, so we're never going to have

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<v Speaker 2>the same meal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Nice, So I'll go home to go love, go on,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you? What do you love about home this week?

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<v Speaker 3>What I love about home is literally just going back

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<v Speaker 3>home because I love with my quardor. I'm my auntie,

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<v Speaker 3>oh beautiful and my cousin now. But I love just

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<v Speaker 3>going back home and seeing what my accordor is watching

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<v Speaker 3>on TV. Because it's quite arranged, like he'll go from

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<v Speaker 3>watching the American politics. Yeah, because he hates Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's always he's like his number one hater, and

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<v Speaker 3>so he watches everything like you know, he's one of

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<v Speaker 3>those haters where he's well researched.

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<v Speaker 2>I like he's hating his heart. I want to know,

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<v Speaker 2>like what you're doing because I want to hand on

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<v Speaker 2>the exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But he can go from that to like watching documentaries

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<v Speaker 3>about skin walkers and like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>My gosh, he really does have a range.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's got a big range to like World War

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<v Speaker 3>two to like nature documentary, Like he's got it all.

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<v Speaker 3>He watches like we watched Breaking Bed together, I Love you, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and he would have been like eighty nine eighty eight

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<v Speaker 3>or something and he was like, oh my god, these

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<v Speaker 3>people are terrible. Let's watch the next episode. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 3>I just love hanging out with him and my aunty

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<v Speaker 3>as well, and just because when we go home, I

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<v Speaker 3>tend to try and switch back into the eel and

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<v Speaker 3>he was raised in wine Man and he speaks too

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<v Speaker 3>ideal and so it's like, oh yeah, I get to

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<v Speaker 3>go home and speak a Maldio again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's cool, cool.

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<v Speaker 3>And just talk about you know, stuff that eighty nine

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<v Speaker 3>year olds fine cool, which is a lot oh.

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<v Speaker 1>By the sounds. Yeah, I thought you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, he's watching like the Chase. Of course

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<v Speaker 1>that's part of the New Zealand television. There we.

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<v Speaker 3>Stand up was when I was in halls at UNI,

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<v Speaker 3>right and they just had this like like open mic

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<v Speaker 3>night kind of thing and I was like, oh, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>do a stand up sit and I did it and

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<v Speaker 3>I was pretty bad. People laughed, But it's not something

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm like, I'm so proud of this city. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it was pretty like what I would call heck now.

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<v Speaker 3>But ever since then, I just started signing up to

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<v Speaker 3>open mic, like proper open mic nights at bars and stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just kept on going. I was, yeah, pretty

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<v Speaker 3>bad at the time, just like not as personal I guess, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like my style has become now. But yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 3>really just a case of I kept on signing up.

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<v Speaker 3>I kept on showing up to the gigs and practicing

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<v Speaker 3>and crafting and writing, and then stuff started happening. I

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<v Speaker 3>started getting put on sort of more lineup shows rather

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<v Speaker 3>than open mic comedy. And then I think I was

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<v Speaker 3>twenty one when I did my first TV stand up gig,

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<v Speaker 3>which was Peck Society's comedy mixtape, And then ever since then,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know what I've been up to really.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I've been doing a lot of writing, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of performing, I'd like to get back

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<v Speaker 3>into performing properly. Just it's a bit hard right now

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<v Speaker 3>because life is quite expensive and comedy is quite expensive,

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<v Speaker 3>especially because I love quite far away from the city

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<v Speaker 3>and all the gigs are in the city. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess now most of my comedy is like written

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<v Speaker 3>not on purpose, but that's just how it's ended up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I suppose like it was just the more

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<v Speaker 2>you did these open mic notes, the better you got.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's interesting because for comedy, every single gig is different.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you can you will get better and better and

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<v Speaker 3>better and more comfortable and better at responding and better

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<v Speaker 3>at listening. But that doesn't necessarily mean that every gig

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<v Speaker 3>is going to get better and better a beater, like

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<v Speaker 3>they're quite all over the place, like it depends on

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<v Speaker 3>the crowd, It depends on the vibes of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>It depends on how on you are, Like, yeah, the

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<v Speaker 3>variable is there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, have you ever been on stays to be like funk,

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<v Speaker 1>I really need to pivot this content right now. You

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<v Speaker 1>had to just like completely be like, oh, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>keep going.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's been times where's like I've just said something

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<v Speaker 3>I shouldn't have, Seid like there are things that I've

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<v Speaker 3>said on SAYD that I regretted saying, and I was like, mm, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I need to leave this. I need to turn way

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<v Speaker 3>to something else right now because this is not This

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<v Speaker 3>is either not what I thought it was gonna be,

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<v Speaker 3>like yeah in my head, or it's just like the

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<v Speaker 3>crowd just doesn't care for it, and I just need

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<v Speaker 3>to go to something that I know they will.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, Yeah, do you have like some things where you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>like every crowd loves this?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, yeah, I would say that the song that

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<v Speaker 3>I do is one of those bits where it's I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think I've ever had a bad response to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I was this was gonna be the next

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<v Speaker 1>question anyway. But I love the way I actually saw

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<v Speaker 1>you perform it. I'm the why twenty five nor that

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<v Speaker 1>I almost yeah, so wild, but it was. I just

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<v Speaker 1>loved your shit so much. I've always been a fan

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<v Speaker 1>of you, but like actually being able to see you

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<v Speaker 1>in your life, I was like, this is hilarious, Like

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<v Speaker 1>this to me is like so good, and I love

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<v Speaker 1>the way that you have infused like comedy and music

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<v Speaker 1>like with that song, I wish I was gay. I

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<v Speaker 1>was I was getting. Yeah, first of all, how did

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<v Speaker 1>you come up with that song? And then also like

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<v Speaker 1>what at what point did you decide to infuse like

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<v Speaker 1>comedy and music together.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I wrote that song either when I was

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen or twenty. I was just watching a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>Flight of the Concord. Oh yeah, Flight of the Concords,

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<v Speaker 3>because I grew up on them. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>would love to do some musical comedy, and so I

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<v Speaker 3>just picked up my guitar, I went and lot myself

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<v Speaker 3>at my bedroom and I just wrote it nice. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't exactly know what the inspiration was. I think it

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<v Speaker 3>was just one of those times. So sometimes you just

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<v Speaker 3>get a random creative boost and it's like right, right,

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<v Speaker 3>right right, Oh my gosh, this is actually not bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And then but the interesting thing is that the first

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<v Speaker 3>time you write it down on paper is not what

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be, like feva, Like, if I were to

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<v Speaker 3>read what I actually wrote, it would probably be a

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<v Speaker 3>completely different song.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's over time and over you know, because each

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<v Speaker 3>time you play it, depending on the room, you might

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<v Speaker 3>say something different to what you write. You might say

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<v Speaker 3>something that you feel just would be funnier on the spot,

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<v Speaker 3>and then that thing you thought of on the spot

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<v Speaker 3>becomes a locked in line in the song. Like even

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<v Speaker 3>the interesting thing about song musical comedy is that you're

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<v Speaker 3>actually playing with the conventions of music, because comedy is

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<v Speaker 3>all about subverting the expectations of the audience. And so

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<v Speaker 3>with musical comedy, it can't just be a song that's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>It has to be a song that like you actually

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<v Speaker 3>have to consider what goes into writing song, what goes

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<v Speaker 3>into the structure of a song, what do people Oh

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<v Speaker 3>my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>Hitther Yeah he works on his building. I'm sorry, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, speak of the devil.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, like it's it's a lot more than just

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<v Speaker 3>writing the jokes, Like you actually kind of have to

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<v Speaker 3>like writing music and know what goes you know, what's

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<v Speaker 3>the bridge, what's a chorus? What are people waiting for

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<v Speaker 3>you to do? Yeah, because everyone kind of has a

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<v Speaker 3>built in ear as to what a song should be,

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<v Speaker 3>and so you have more to play with. Yeah, well

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<v Speaker 3>you just have a lot to play with than just

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<v Speaker 3>compared to Stand Up Alone. Yeah, but even stand Up Alone,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like a whole entire world of its own stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I think it was just like I just

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<v Speaker 3>like writing music and so it was fun to mooge

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<v Speaker 3>those loves together. Although I need to write another song,

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<v Speaker 3>we would love that and I'm just so lazy so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it does seem like a lot of if it

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, do you have a gig though? That's

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<v Speaker 1>been like your favorite so fat m.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually really enjoyed that hy twenty five gig just

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<v Speaker 3>because it was just a room full of young women

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<v Speaker 3>who were all entrepreneurs, are like thought leaders, and it's like, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>you people are like actually doing something around and it

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<v Speaker 3>was just cool to be in that space and be like,

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<v Speaker 3>let's just have a good time. Let's just chill and

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<v Speaker 3>relax and smile, because, especially knowing just the sort of

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<v Speaker 3>level of work you guys were doing, it kind of

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<v Speaker 3>felt like, I don't know, just a real privilege to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to share joy nice. That's how I see

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<v Speaker 3>comedy is making joyful space, Yeah, which is really important

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<v Speaker 3>to me, especially for hard workers. Yeah, it's important to

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<v Speaker 3>have time to just be happy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a I love that. I'm like an in

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<v Speaker 1>comedy phonetic, Like I really love very much comedy that

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<v Speaker 1>comes out of this country period, and so like that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also so on that buzz, Like I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>being a young woman in this world can be really

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<v Speaker 1>hard sometimes and like the layer of being like Speaker

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<v Speaker 1>or Mardy, it's not an easy world or this is

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<v Speaker 1>not an easy city to live in, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>have like the cost of living crisis that like making

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<v Speaker 1>space for joy is so important, like you actually can't

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<v Speaker 1>live life without pockets of joy, like we need those,

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<v Speaker 1>we need those moments of hope in order to make

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<v Speaker 1>the slave with living.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my mom, when I was a kid, she used

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<v Speaker 3>to tell me if Marty couldn't laugh, we would just

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<v Speaker 3>be crying all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you were like, you know what I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do. I want to make people laugh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Pretty intense thing to say that, but I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think she was necessarily wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that was the next question actually, speaking to

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<v Speaker 1>like being Mardy and growing up Mardy, you went to

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<v Speaker 1>a school that was really similar to mine, and I

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<v Speaker 1>found being at that school very culturally challenging, and I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like my some oneness was like really obvious in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that wasn't like nice And like to me now,

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<v Speaker 1>being someone, Yes, I love that. I love being someone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's everything to me. I want people to know I'm Simon,

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<v Speaker 1>but back then it was kind of like a shameful

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of my identity. But the question is, were you

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<v Speaker 1>always like super strong in your Mardi tonguel or as

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to a school like we did, that it

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<v Speaker 1>impacts you in any way.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that my whole life, I have always been

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<v Speaker 3>Maldy and I've never known anything else but to be Maldy.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I was at Burdeane, I was always confident

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<v Speaker 3>in my Mildy tongue I had. I actually started at

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<v Speaker 3>Tikol hunger deal or Tetsuda home, so Maldi is technically

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<v Speaker 3>my first language. But the thing is that afterwards I

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<v Speaker 3>went to mainstream schools and my Maldi got less good,

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<v Speaker 3>really well, it didn't get worse, it just didn't get better.

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<v Speaker 3>And my final like Tedyl, was always in our home,

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<v Speaker 3>but it wasn't necessarily spoken to me twenty four seven,

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<v Speaker 3>which is what you need to have a language relationship

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<v Speaker 3>with your caregiver.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was never a secret.

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<v Speaker 3>To me or a surprise that we were Maldy, and

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<v Speaker 3>I never felt uncomfortable when we, you know, would go

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<v Speaker 3>to different events with Fino or tonguey or those kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of things, which it's interesting because tonguy, I think, is

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<v Speaker 3>one of the biggest places where Maldy connect with their

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<v Speaker 3>Maldi tongue nowadays, if they're not already immersed in it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was always pretty chill, like honestly, when I

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<v Speaker 3>was in school, there was no sense of shame because

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<v Speaker 3>it was not something I knew that you could be

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<v Speaker 3>ashamed about. I would go to school and it was

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<v Speaker 3>white Airs, and I'd feel like it was white Airs,

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<v Speaker 3>but I still went to Kabaka and I did Copuka

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<v Speaker 3>for like maybe twelve eleven, twelve years or something, so

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<v Speaker 3>it was always just a natural part of my life.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I'd go home and all my family are

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<v Speaker 3>Maldy and so there was no shame. There was no

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<v Speaker 3>feelings of detachment for me until my parents started saying

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<v Speaker 3>things to me, Like I remember when I was in

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<v Speaker 3>high school, my parents were like they said to me,

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<v Speaker 3>and I put it in my showhohak guy. They started

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<v Speaker 3>saying stuff to me like, oh, we know you're ashamed

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<v Speaker 3>of being Maldy and we know that you don't like

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<v Speaker 3>DOINGUK because of that, And that was quite random to me,

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<v Speaker 3>like and I say random really intentionally because it came

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<v Speaker 3>out of nowhere. Yeah, because when I was a teenager,

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<v Speaker 3>it was not something I really thought about. It just

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<v Speaker 3>was my life. And to have my parents say something

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<v Speaker 3>like that to me, which was quite a definitive sort

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<v Speaker 3>of judgment that they had come to, was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was only when they said that when suddenly

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<v Speaker 3>the concepts of shame and girl got introduced to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would have been like year twelve, like you're

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<v Speaker 3>living year twelve, and so I've gone all this way

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm a happy little milded girl, and I got

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of yeah, yeah, exactly what we binging out

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<v Speaker 3>and doing my homework and all that jazz. And it

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<v Speaker 3>was only when they sort of started saying stuff I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, maybe I'm not a happy little molded girl. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that because it was so random it

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<v Speaker 3>was I was okay because the shock of it was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>that's so random. I don't know what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very upsetting that you've said this, but it's too

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<v Speaker 3>out of the blue for me to really fully be like,

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:09.800
<v Speaker 3>you're right, I don't know anything, because it's just like,

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<v Speaker 3>what the hell are you talking about because sometimes I

0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:17.119
<v Speaker 3>could say random stuff because they're also very creative and

0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 3>creative people say creative things. But yeah, it's interesting. It's

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<v Speaker 3>only gotten more complex now that I'm twenty three. Yeah,

0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:31.480
<v Speaker 3>where I look back and I'm like, huh, that's quite

0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:34.920
<v Speaker 3>interesting what was going on there? And all I can

0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:38.400
<v Speaker 3>say to that is that that was them going through

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<v Speaker 3>their own stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I love that answer. That's so gosh how

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<v Speaker 1>different my life would have been had I not known

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<v Speaker 1>what shame was, because.

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<v Speaker 3>It's only once it's introduced to you that you can

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<v Speaker 3>feel shame about, because otherwise you're just a little bumbling

0:23:58.000 --> 0:23:59.640
<v Speaker 3>teenager just hanging out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, trying to figure out the world as it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes other people introduce that shame, like teachers, peers, but

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:11.160
<v Speaker 3>for me it was my parents. But now, my school

0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:14.920
<v Speaker 3>had had a lot of issues, honestly, like they would

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<v Speaker 3>keep doing bullshit like trying and make the kabaka practices

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<v Speaker 3>as short as possible and make it as little as

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<v Speaker 3>possible because to them, capuker was just a performance and

0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:27.800
<v Speaker 3>it was just a hobby. They didn't understand what it

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<v Speaker 3>meant for that to be aligned to your culture. Because

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 3>I love kabaka because because it was my culture and

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<v Speaker 3>that was where I felt cool and chill and happy.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I don't know. They'd go, oh, my God,

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 3>could have our favorite little gold star student. But then

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:46.840
<v Speaker 3>in the same breath they'd say, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>shorten kabaka because you guys need to be better at academics,

0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 3>even though I don't know, we were great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah in my eyes, Yeah, that's exactly what my master's

0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:06.560
<v Speaker 1>was about. What the research says. I read an interview

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 1>of yours where you mentioned obviously you have a more

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 1>cohi and you mentioned feeling like you had to act

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<v Speaker 1>or speak a certain way after you received your mocal Coi.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have kind of speak to the experience of

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:22.879
<v Speaker 1>receiving it, but then also that journey you've kind of

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 1>been on since, like what does it mean to you,

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<v Speaker 1>like now act and speak.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I got my macal Coi when I turned

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<v Speaker 3>twenty one. I got it with my mum and three

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<v Speaker 3>of my toa on the same day. It was actually

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<v Speaker 3>the first Moco Papa that my mother I had ever

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<v Speaker 3>held in the ducking wow, mainly because el mud I

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<v Speaker 3>Well the funding way specifically is I knew well new

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:49.639
<v Speaker 3>as in it was built in twenty ten, and so

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:51.640
<v Speaker 3>they had never had a morechal Papa on it before,

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:54.680
<v Speaker 3>and so that was a real privilege to be part

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 3>of that sort of occasion. It was interesting because the

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 3>night before I got my more cork, I was telling

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<v Speaker 3>my cousin just the other day that I just had

0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:07.680
<v Speaker 3>so much anxiety over it. I didn't know if I

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 3>was making the right decision. I was feeling the permanence

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:16.159
<v Speaker 3>of the decision and I couldn't sleep. And then on

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:19.679
<v Speaker 3>the day of my marco, we pulled up to Durpaki,

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:23.879
<v Speaker 3>I saw my monga tameathel borke Fenua and I immediately

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 3>felt calm. And it was like a calmness that I'd

0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 3>never felt before. It was like my whole body and

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 3>every cell in my body it was just po and

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 3>I in that moment just knew this is the right decision.

0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:45.159
<v Speaker 3>I am exactly where I need to be. And so

0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:48.879
<v Speaker 3>ever since that feeling, which was even before I actually

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:52.159
<v Speaker 3>had the mochal COI I knew, oh, yes, this is

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 3>who I am, this is what's meant to happen right now.

0:26:56.040 --> 0:27:01.360
<v Speaker 3>And I think ever since having my morcal COI, I've

0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 3>just become stronger and stronger as not just as a

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 3>mildy person, but as a person in general. Having my

0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 3>morcl Coio its like I wake up and I have

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:21.639
<v Speaker 3>my best friend with me every day. There's never been

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:24.879
<v Speaker 3>a single day where I've regretted having my macho, And

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 3>every day that I have my Macho and I see it,

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 3>I feel ready for the world. It's something That's helped

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 3>me a lot because I've been working on getting my

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 3>deal back up to scratch and getting more intentional about

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 3>my mildy tongue and my two and I feel like

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 3>every step of the way, I have my mate to

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 3>thank for holding me. It's just quite interesting because I've

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 3>never actually thought about it like that before until I'm

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:05.479
<v Speaker 3>saying it right now.

0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so beautiful.

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 2>What a beautiful description of that experience.

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm always getting emotional. Yeah, that's so put the tears

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:22.200
<v Speaker 1>out of the eyes. Are there certain expectations put on

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 1>people with Michael.

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:27.399
<v Speaker 3>I There are people who will put expectations on you

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 3>regardless of what you present. There are people who will

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 3>say that I shouldn't sweet, shouldn't say certain things because

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm a woman, and so of course there's going to

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:39.240
<v Speaker 3>be people who say it because I have a morchal

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 3>COI because everyone has different understandings of what is and

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 3>what the tekonga is, and I think that I don't

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 3>wish to villainize those people or even necessarily to disagree

0:28:56.200 --> 0:29:00.120
<v Speaker 3>with them, because what is true to me can be

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 3>equally true to someone else. There are lots of people

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:06.000
<v Speaker 3>who say you shouldn't drink alcohol, you shouldn't smoke, you

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 3>shouldn't swear, you shouldn't talk about sex. But for me,

0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 3>that's just not a thing because in my upbringing more

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 3>has been a very casual thing. It's just a part

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 3>of life, and it's a part of our beauty as well.

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 3>And I think that the way I've always had it

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 3>around me is it's just it's just as natural as

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 3>your lips, you know, just as natural as having a

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 3>chin like it. It's quite neutral to me, even though

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 3>I just said that all that stuff about here's my

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 3>best friend, It's just it's not something that I revere

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 3>or feel afraid of, or that I feel others should expect. Well,

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, the thing is that I will hold myself

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 3>to this ended that I think I should be at

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 3>regardless of my co I just as a woman, as

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 3>a mildy woman, it's important to me that I hold

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 3>my head up high and that I don't speak down

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 3>on myself, and that I don't allow myself to do

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 3>what the world would love to do to me. But

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 3>that would be true regardless of my Marchel.

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Period him. Oh my gosh, wow, wow, wow, wow. I

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 1>was telling you before I just received my mudel, and

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I feel like within someone culture there are some really

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 1>high expectations of people who wear their muddel or like

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>have had their muddel revealed. And to hear you say,

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 1>like speak of your Michael co I, it's like this

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>neutral thing but also something that like when you look

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>at and the morning you feel ready for the world.

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly how I feel about my cell and this

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of sense of like I have everyone in my

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>life and all my ancestors like backing me so hard,

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:23.479
<v Speaker 1>like unconditionally, but it's also like not anyone else's business

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 1>what I not necessarily what I do, but like how

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 1>I move through the world as someone who wears a

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 1>malul Like I think that's so what you've said is

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 1>so profound and like important. Yeah, yeah, I feel like

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I need to take like five minutes. Couldn't we want

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 1>to jam a rapid fire? I came with you.

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 2>But before we do that, I have one more, last,

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 2>one last question for you. So we'd love to hear

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 2>more about your writing works. So you've mentioned the performance

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 2>side of comedy, but then there's also that side of

0:31:56.600 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 2>writing and scripting shows like Only An tell us about

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 2>the experience, because we've seen clips of it.

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Did you see a moment? Hilarious?

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 2>That whole show actually, like the whole previous of the

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 2>show is just so smart and intelligent. But tell us

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 2>about your experience writing for shows like that.

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Only An al Theodore is the only skeitch comedy

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 3>show I've written on. But writing skitch comedy, I feel

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 3>like it's like a comedian dream. I got their job.

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:35.960
<v Speaker 3>I think it was off the back of like stand

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 3>up or something like that, Like my stand up clips

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 3>had been going around, and I think that the producer

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, you can do comedy, you write comedy,

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 3>And I'd previously done some week writing on Akad and

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:53.600
<v Speaker 3>so she's like, oh, cool, you can also write Yes,

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 3>And the room was cool, like it was just all

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 3>and it was a real fun time, Like we just

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 3>sat literally around a table and jammed like things that

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 3>we thought were funny and things that we thought what

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.720
<v Speaker 3>he should see. I'm a bit of a comedy nude,

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 3>so I it was really important to me, like structure

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 3>and set ups and punchlines and all. They're just like,

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 3>it's quite boring when you break it down into that,

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 3>but it's really important so that you can hit what

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 3>it is that you're trying to say. Yeah, absolutely, I've

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 3>seen it in some other somewhere. I said to someone

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 3>else that with Tikunga Police, which with the sketches that

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 3>I brought, and I was like real nerdy, and they're like, everybody,

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 3>can you please come in with a few ideas, Like

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't have to be full and fleshed out, it's

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 3>just something that we can ref on. And on the

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 3>first day of the table, I brought and fully written

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 3>scrobs and I was I should I'm so so like

0:33:57.160 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 3>too much sometimes because everyone else in the room got

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 3>freaked out because they're like, oh, when we meant to

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 3>do that, And I.

0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Was like no, no, no, no, no, I'm just like

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm just really into this. I was really into it.

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 3>It was like the hyper fixation thing, like but Uh.

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 3>That gef skitch was quite funny to me because that

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 3>was one that was born in the room because we

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 3>were just talking about not to name well yeah, to

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 3>name names, but because they are not a Maldi brand,

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 3>but they.

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Have a man I have heard.

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, but they're young, I guess, but they

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 3>because it stands for alpha, like because sometimes in you'll

0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 3>hear the which is alpha omega. So it's implying everything

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 3>in the world because it's from A to Z and

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 3>everything in between. Yeah, and I was like, oh my gosh,

0:34:57.160 --> 0:35:02.880
<v Speaker 3>cool Maori company, but it wasn't actually, but we were

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 3>talking about that brand in the room and how we

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.879
<v Speaker 3>would We're all convinced that it was a Maldi brand

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 3>because I had a name, and so we just started

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 3>talking like what if we were in a world where

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 3>after the city or white tonguey Maldi came out better

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 3>than Parka. And so that whole skitch is like in

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 3>a boardroom with a Maldi company and they've got the

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 3>like token park boards. Yeah yeah, yeah. And the feel

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 3>thing was just a random thing that I thought was funny.

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 3>It was just funny because like we have all these

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 3>this you've got, there's all one and this whole context

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 3>and everyone's favorite particy thing.

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Like gone to ship.

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, but I was happy because it's like I

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 3>wrote a joke and everyone.

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:57.080
<v Speaker 2>Also police that was a good sketch as well, so good.

0:35:57.239 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I played it out on my radio show. I

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, what I think?

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 2>I asked people, who do you need to call the

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 2>teak or police on? And like people are calling in

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:05.759
<v Speaker 2>and saying, oh, I.

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Got this coworker who's such as dirty ass on the.

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Well speaking of okay, we're going to go into a

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 2>rapid fire, gave and got it. Before we go, We're

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna ask you a simple question that's divided a lot

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 2>of people. And this may open the candle rooms. But

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:29.320
<v Speaker 2>hangy or boil up? Which one are you choosing?

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:40.880
<v Speaker 3>That's a really like fucked up question. Really, I'm gonna

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 3>say hungy. I feel like I eat more boil up

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 3>when I have hungy. It's like yeahey, however it has

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 3>to be good hongey.

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:50.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 3>I always used to hate hangy when I was a

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:55.719
<v Speaker 3>kid because I was like, oh my god, it's drying, flavorless.

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 3>But then I realized I was just eating dry and flavorless,

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 3>and you're like a real hungy. I was like, shit, yeah,

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 3>this is worth the whole.

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:09.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is get the shout a good hangy before.

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 1>And I've had some not so good hangey.

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:12.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:16.279
<v Speaker 2>Other times, like when the potatoes aren't cooked fully what

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:21.320
<v Speaker 2>I like this one hungy. I ate like the potatoes

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:24.840
<v Speaker 2>were giving apple like six ships. They were crunchy, and

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:26.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, how long were you cooking this?

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Did you check this on that micro But yes, I

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 1>have to say about raw fish. I recently discovered that

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I love raw fish. But it's because I've been having

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:40.839
<v Speaker 1>ship raw fish. Yeah, and you like, oh, I don't

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:42.800
<v Speaker 1>really like it. But I've just looked that I'm a

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 1>bit fussy with my raw fish. And I had a

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 1>really good raw fish the other day and I was like, nah,

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:48.400
<v Speaker 1>this is on.

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you just need a good one. I think boil

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 3>up is like a staple meal.

0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 1>I love boil up.

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 3>I will never turn down boil up. But hangy is

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:00.840
<v Speaker 3>just a special Yeah special.

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I want to say it's a special occasion.

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it requires a little bit more effort, just.

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 3>Like like smoke eel when we get there and I'm like,

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 3>coming back to your buddy.

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I thank you so much for joining us. Where can

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:22.840
<v Speaker 1>we find you on social media and whatnot?

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:25.280
<v Speaker 3>On Instagram?

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 1>My, what do you call it? The iconic handle? I

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 1>was just about to say, it's period.

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:42.719
<v Speaker 3>Underscore chips with on Instagram, on TikTok Maybe donad me

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:44.959
<v Speaker 3>on Facebook because I need.

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:50.760
<v Speaker 1>A business, yeah, one that you can like exactly.

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't know you.

0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Instagram is fine, yes, everyone look up chips right now.

0:38:57.360 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 1>Put it a follow alrightyms. That's it.

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 2>That's up another week, done and dusted. So make sure

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:04.800
<v Speaker 2>you follow us. Can you please tell a friend to

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 2>telephone to go and follow us on the Instagram TikTok

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:09.080
<v Speaker 2>at Alan ruths Auckland.

0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:12.399
<v Speaker 1>Ways, it's that easy. We're liking the numbers, aren't we. Yeah,

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 1>they're really nice. Actually, thanks to that. Guys, that's not

0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:17.279
<v Speaker 1>about the numbers, but it is about the numbers, you know.

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:19.800
<v Speaker 1>To us, it's not about the numbers, but I know

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:23.439
<v Speaker 1>that to other people, they care about the numbers. We'll

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 1>put it that way. O keep following, guys, if you

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 1>want to keep listening to these two voices right here,

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:34.879
<v Speaker 1>follow up. Okay, okay, we'll see you next week. Bye bye,