1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Now a study out of Australia suggests vaping causes lung 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: and mouth cancer, and this study is getting slammed by 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: the experts. Robert beagelhol is an emeritus professor in public 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: health and a former director for the World Health Organization 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: and with US. 6 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: High Robert, good Evening, Heaven. 7 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: Do you also have a problem with this study. 8 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: I think this is an appalling study, Heather. It is misleading. 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: It doesn't compare vapors with smokers. It detects very low 10 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 2: levels of potentially dangerous substances. But of course what is 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: important is how concentrated, how much of these substances are 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 2: in the vapes. Vapes as we know it, are much 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: much less harmful than cigarettes. They help people stop. We 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: need to be encouraging them, not misleading them. 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: The point that has been made by these researcher is 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: that there is that there's been no comparison studies between 17 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: vaping and segge smoking. Is that correct. 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: And no, absolutely that is in correct. There are a 19 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: lot of comparisons of the toxic ingredients in cigarette smoke 20 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: and in vape aerosols, and without question, the smoke is 21 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: much much dangerous, more dangerous from cigarettes than from aerosols, 22 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:14,279 Speaker 2: no question. 23 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: So what is going on here that's like, is there 24 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: an appetite? Are we sort of primed to want to 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: find out that vaping is worse than it actually is? 26 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: Because I'm just trying to understand why a study like 27 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: this is getting all of this attention. 28 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: Well, it's a misleading study. It's sensational. Something causes cancer, 29 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: it gets the headlines. I mean, eating drinking apple juice 30 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: is associated with cancer. People who drink orange juice get cancer. 31 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: It's not because of the orange juice, because of the 32 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: other factors going on. There's no question that there's a 33 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: beat up against vpes and that is misleading and I 34 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: would say irresponsible and potentially harmful to an adult who 35 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: work up this morning thinking well maybe this is the 36 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: day I'm going to go to vapes. They see this 37 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: study headlined, they say, why would I go to vapes 38 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: if some Australian is telling me that it's causing cancer 39 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: it's dangerous? 40 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, Robert, thank you very much, really appreciate 41 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: your time. It's Robert, Professor Robert beegelhol Emeritus Professor in 42 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: Public Health. For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, Listen 43 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 44 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio