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Speaker 2: That'd be good morning. Welcome to Wednesday six after five.

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Speaker 2: Coming up, we'll speak to the Turkey voting for Christmas,

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Speaker 2: on regional councils, getting the shop and Gavin Gray's in

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Speaker 2: maths from Stanford. It's ocr day today. Nick Tuffley on that,

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Speaker 2: The agenda Wednesday the twenty six in November, peace coming

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Speaker 3: we have not received anything officially.

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Speaker 2: Absolute chimozzle in space from China. They're rushing to rescue

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Speaker 2: In one news talks he'd been would you think you

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Speaker 2: I told you yesterday this was going to happen, and

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Speaker 2: Can you tell me? And this is a genuine question.

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Speaker 2: to stumble. Nick Toughly ASBCHV economist with us this morning. Nick,

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Speaker 2: good morning, Good morning. Do you know what regional councils do, Nick?

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Speaker 2: No, they don't, and which is what you're here to

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Speaker 6: It's really going to be very much a focus on

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Speaker 6: Look, there's a degree of that in the sense that

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Speaker 2: Ad be Well, the verdict descent on regional councils. None

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Speaker 2: of you like them, Ryan. All regional councils do is

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Speaker 2: All I've got from regional councils is Gary is problems

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Speaker 2: Otago Regional Council has just got a brand new building

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Speaker 2: to work in, which was totally unnecessary. That's how lucky

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Speaker 2: we are, not says Joy Joy. Not very joyous this

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Speaker 2: morning anyway. Diane what's her name, Diane Colvit or is

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: More good news from the government's education reforms. In just

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Speaker 2: twelve weeks. Year seven and eight's on a maths acceleration

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Speaker 2: trial for extra support made on average a year to

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Speaker 2: the rest just doing an hour of maths a day,

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Speaker 2: the basics also made a full year's progress in that time.

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Speaker 2: Chris Abercrombie the PPTA with me this morning, Chris, good morning,

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Speaker 2: But what were they doing if I understand that, yes,

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Speaker 8: I mean, like, you know, this is the thing.

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Speaker 8: I have more faith and parents about teaching maths. I

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Speaker 2: I think we are. Do you think Erica Stamford is

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Speaker 8: You know, I'm not going to answer a silly question

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time. Chris Chris Abercrombie, PPTA President, twenty four

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Speaker 2: glass of water. Goodness me. School was basic. It was maths, reading, writing,

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Speaker 2: We didn't then and we don't now. And the results

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Speaker 2: too late to turn all this around. Frankly, parents and

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Speaker 2: nine the number to text Wayne Brown yesterday, and this

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Speaker 2: is quite funny. I didn't know the Palestine protests people

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Speaker 2: Honestly is that PPTA guy for real? Parents can teach

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Speaker 2: We're in the UK. There is talk that Ukraine is

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Speaker 2: Tonedan Callum, good morning morning. Right, you've got the Alpine

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Speaker 11: This is a two day fresh water event bringing together

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Speaker 11: The CEO's Cat Dylan. He says bridging the gap between

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Speaker 11: Council will be represented at the meeting.

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Speaker 2: For now callum for now. Hey, how's your weather?

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Speaker 11: Rain Clears to find this morning. Gusty northwest is here today,

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Speaker 2: This is very tragic, but it's an unforgiving mountain. As

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Speaker 12: This was terrible yesterday Ryan, when we found out that

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Speaker 2: clear here.

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Speaker 12: of morning rain. Northeasterly's turning northwest and the high will

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Speaker 2: Nice thanks oh twenty nine goodness met? Thanks clear. Max

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Speaker 2: in Wellington, Good morning, Max, good morning. Got a couple

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Speaker 2: of new sites for Wellingtonians.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I heard the comments by the Venerable mister Hosking on

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Speaker 7: Monday saying are from sound a little gloomy and with

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Speaker 7: that some cheerful positivity in the capitol. We have a

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Speaker 7: new arts venue for one the city's oldest cinema, the Paramount, Sir,

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Speaker 7: which is.

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Speaker 2: Mess that it's pot kittle black. He's mister gloomy every

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Speaker 2: day of the year.

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Speaker 7: Well I for one vow to from here on out

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Speaker 7: have a sunny disposition. The Paramount along Courtney Place upstairs

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Speaker 7: the old cinema being repurposed as a place to watch music, comedy, theater, etc.

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Speaker 7: During the annual Fringe Festival next year. Beautiful loft space,

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Speaker 7: open air rooftop. It's it's been quite a shame. Actually,

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Speaker 7: it hasn't been in use for some time now, since

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Speaker 7: twenty seventeen and hopefully it can last beyond this February

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Speaker 7: Arts Festival also got a new sculpture installed at Whitehangy Park,

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Speaker 7: a very large sort of upside down steel orb that's

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Speaker 7: been installed along one of the paths. It was designed

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Speaker 7: and made by a South Korean artist, made for six

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Speaker 7: hundred thousand dollars. But thanks to fundraising by the Wellington

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Speaker 7: Sculpture Trust, you've got that now down at the Waterfront

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Speaker 7: Park as well.

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Speaker 2: And upside down steel orb all right, must get to Wellington.

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Speaker 2: That's to be fair good on them for fundraising and

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Speaker 2: doing it that way. That's fantastic to hear. You haven't

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Speaker 2: mentioned the three hundred and thirty staff at Wellington Council

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Speaker 2: that shouldn't be there, Max, Is that too, Nique?

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Speaker 7: Well, you can go down two routes, can't you with

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Speaker 7: these live crosses?

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Speaker 2: So are you saying for the rest of the year, Max,

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Speaker 2: you're going to be happy? I maybe for the rest

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Speaker 2: of the week. Okay, how shall wear that?

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Speaker 7: Mostly fine this morning and then some showers later? Strong

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Speaker 7: win twenty one the high.

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Speaker 2: Nceel and thank you Nevers and Auckland Hall.

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Speaker 14: I was ready to put some money on that.

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Speaker 2: I know what yeah, I call be yes. Now what

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Speaker 2: have you got about Brian Tommicky.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, well look he's trying once again, this is negative

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Speaker 14: to disrupt traffic over Auckland Harbor Bridge. Yes, yes, So

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Speaker 14: what is he doing. He's launching an application for a protest. Now,

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Speaker 14: this is on January thirty first. Now I think people

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Speaker 14: will remember that he had a march over the bridge planned.

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Speaker 14: This was last month, but it didn't go ahead because

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Speaker 14: Tamiki's claiming he decided not to go ahead with it.

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Speaker 14: But NZTA says it refused permission. So the Transport Agency

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Speaker 14: is now saying that Tamaki's made a new application. He

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Speaker 14: made this new application on Monday for you know, this

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Speaker 14: protest on January thirty first. Now you might be saying,

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Speaker 14: with this new march, okay, what will he be protesting about?

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Speaker 2: What is it this time?

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Speaker 14: Immigration? This is the funniest one politicians who's morals he

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Speaker 14: disagrees withhead'll be everyone.

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Speaker 2: Just so, But do you know what's annoying about this?

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Speaker 2: We use that bridge. Just go and protest at a

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Speaker 2: civic square exactly like Eden Park needs more events, Go

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Speaker 2: and give them one. Just bugger right, that's right, annoying.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, that's our weather, Neva.

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Speaker 14: Partly cloudy, isolated shells twenty five not as high as

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Speaker 14: Christich with your twenty nine, but twenty five.

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Speaker 2: We'll take it. Sixteen to six News Talk said b

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Speaker 2: about performance and results. It's something that I'm always paying

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Speaker 2: from morning Star is worth noting. Milford's Key we Saver

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Speaker 2: can Stars, Key we Save a Provider of the Year,

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Speaker 2: Outstanding Value, most Satisfied Customers as well. They have won

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Speaker 2: the Consumer People's Choice Award eight years in a row,

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Speaker 2: and that is telling you something. For proven performance and

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Speaker 2: happy customers, Milford's worth a look. Changing to Milford takes

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Speaker 2: just a couple of minutes online. Past performance not a

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Speaker 2: reliable indicative future performance. Milford Funds Limited as the issue

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Speaker 2: of the Milford key we save a plan. You can

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Speaker 2: Are we close to a deal on Ukraine? Gavin Gray?

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Speaker 2: Are UK europe correspondent with Uskevin, how we looking?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think we're edging there.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 5: Roustom Umarov, he's the head of Ukraine's Security Council, has

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Speaker 5: said that the US and Ukraine has quote reached a

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Speaker 5: common understanding on the key terms of the agreement discussed

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Speaker 5: at those talks in Geneva, and is also saying that

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Speaker 5: they're trained to arrange a visit for President Lotiman Zelensky

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Speaker 5: from Ukraine to visit the US meet Donald Trump quote

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Speaker 5: at the earliest suitable date this month. So that would

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Speaker 5: mean in the next three, four or five days or so,

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Speaker 5: as the diplomatic attempts to end the war continue. Not

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Speaker 5: quite sure yet how much, if any of Europe's input

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Speaker 5: into this is going to count into the final solution.

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Speaker 5: The counterproposals reportedly drafted by the uk France and Germany

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Speaker 5: frankly have been dismissed by a Krimin officialist being completely unconstructed.

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Speaker 5: But we'll wait to see what the details are about

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Speaker 5: this after this meeting with Donald Trump. Incidentally, they'm afraid

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Speaker 5: a night of violence and death with according to President Zelenski,

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Speaker 5: twenty two missiles and more than four hundred and sixty

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Speaker 5: drones launched at Ukraine overnight, resulting in the deaths of

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Speaker 5: at least six people.

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Speaker 2: Givin wiztrating expanding the sugar techs and now it'll apply

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Speaker 2: to chocolate milk, presumably because there's no milk exemption to it.

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Speaker 2: Did people care about this? Did I think it's a

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Speaker 2: good idea, bad idea.

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Speaker 5: I think it's something the government might just have been

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Speaker 5: keeping back to issue the day before the much heralded budget,

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Speaker 5: in which the government will lay out its plans for

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Speaker 5: the finances and the economy and the tax intake and

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Speaker 5: the spending. That's all going to come in just about

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Speaker 5: twenty two hours time from now. But this is something

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Speaker 5: which most doctors agree with, a lot of medics agree with.

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Speaker 5: Critics say it's you know, big nanny, big state getting

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Speaker 5: involved in what people eat. But what this first started

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Speaker 5: out was back in twenty eighteen, the previous government, previous

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Speaker 5: political party brought in a levy aiming to reduce sugar

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Speaker 5: consumption by giving manufacturers an incentive to use less sugar.

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Speaker 5: And the government says the original tax had led to

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Speaker 5: a forty six percent reduction in the sugar in fizzy drinks.

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Speaker 5: Now it's going further. It is reducing the threshold at

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Speaker 5: which tax applies from five grams of sugar per one

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Speaker 5: hundred milli liters to four point five. Now, if you think, well,

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Speaker 5: that's not going to make much difference, lots of the

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Speaker 5: drinks manufacturers reduce things down to five percent to fall

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Speaker 5: outside of the tax. Now they're going to have to

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Speaker 5: do it again. It's going to be interesting to see

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Speaker 5: how they get on.

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Speaker 2: So you get lesson less sugar. I appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: That's govin Gray. Our UK europe correspondent time is ten.

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Speaker 1: To six bridge.

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Speaker 2: So government wants to cull all eleven regional councils across

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Speaker 2: the country. Instead, their consenting powers will be given to

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Speaker 2: the city and district mayors, who will form another form

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Speaker 2: of council to make region wide decisions. Hillary calverts Otago

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Speaker 2: Regional Council chair with me this morning. Could be out

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Speaker 2: of a job if these went through Hillary, Good morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning thoughts.

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Speaker 13: Yes, it's sort of been a while coming regional councils

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Speaker 13: and that there's the feeling that there's perhaps one too

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Speaker 13: many layers of decisions and activity and local government in

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Speaker 13: New Zealand, I think, and.

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Speaker 2: You agree with that, you'd be happy to be out

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Speaker 2: of a job.

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Speaker 13: Yes, I am probably one of the one of the

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Speaker 13: turkeys who would organize Christmas. Not not because I would

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Speaker 13: like to be out of a job, because I've just

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Speaker 13: got into it and having been chosen as cheered by

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Speaker 13: my fellow counselors. It is a bit sad the thought

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Speaker 13: that I can't continue to do that, but for the

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Speaker 13: sake of the Otago Region people and the ratepayers. I

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Speaker 13: can see where the government's coming from.

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Speaker 2: How many staff work at the Otago Regional Council.

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Speaker 8: I think.

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Speaker 13: Three hundred and sixty eight to something. Wow, so there's

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Speaker 13: twice as many as there was six years.

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Speaker 15: Ago and are doing yeah, well, a lot of planning

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Speaker 15: and that's probably an area that the government has particularly

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Speaker 15: focused on because of what the awkwardness about planning is

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Speaker 15: that the government makes rules like here's what water should

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Speaker 15: be like, and you should go and make a plan

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Speaker 15: about how are you going to do that, And then

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Speaker 15: we go and make a plan about the water and

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Speaker 15: that it's done every five years or whatever it's done.

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Speaker 15: And then the people below us, the territorial authorities, then

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Speaker 15: they make plans to carry out what we tell them

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Speaker 15: to do. And that also is a plan that might

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Speaker 15: be five yearly and it might have been two years

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Speaker 15: after the plan that we've made, so and there's another

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Speaker 15: one below that.

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Speaker 13: So the government it's all out of step and it

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Speaker 13: doesn't produce good, good results really because it hasn't got

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Speaker 13: a clear pathway because.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's just sitting around writing plans, out of date ones

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Speaker 2: at that. Hillary, appreciate your time this morning. Hillary calvet

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Speaker 2: Otago Regional Council Chair. Happy to be out of a job.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the RMA reforms are coming by the

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Speaker 2: end of the year and that will mean fewer plans,

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Speaker 2: fewer consent categories, fewer consents needed, therefore less to do.

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Speaker 2: News Talk CBB.

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Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan

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Speaker 1: all in one News Talks.

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Speaker 2: AB five to six on News Talks CBS. So we

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Speaker 2: have seventy eight councils in New Zealand, including those territorial authorities.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday we had a list of the most populated cities

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Speaker 2: in the world. Come out. Jakarta has overtaken Tokyo as

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Speaker 2: the world's largest city. Jakarta is forty two million people.

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Speaker 2: Tokyo now number three, thirty three million people. Guess how

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Speaker 2: many local governments they have in Tokyo for thirty three

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Speaker 2: million people. Twenty three. There you go, Mike's here with

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Speaker 2: you next. Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 9: They'd have some different prefix you account as though, wouldn't they.

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Speaker 2: This is twenty three local council local governments, I'm told,

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Speaker 2: in total for that many people.

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Speaker 9: Problem is the interesting thing we'll have Old Chris Bishop

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Speaker 9: on this morning. The interesting thing I think about the

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Speaker 9: story is that it's it's a profound change, but no

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Speaker 9: one cares so, in other words, because no one turned

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Speaker 9: up to both no, so we couldn't give a monkey.

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Speaker 9: So there's no point in complaining about it, or worrying

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Speaker 9: about it or thinking about it, because you know, we

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Speaker 9: spoke a couple of weeks ago, and you know, we

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Speaker 9: couldn't even bothered participating.

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Speaker 2: So unless your labor who said this is terrible because

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Speaker 2: it takes away a layer of decision.

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Speaker 9: As say everything they say everything is terrible. It's like

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Speaker 9: your mate, what about your mate from the union. I mean,

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Speaker 9: I mean that story is one of the great stories.

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Speaker 9: You can't argue, just admit it. And it's just like say, excellent.

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Speaker 9: Well was he sounded so miserable, didn't he? He did

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