1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Anyone who knows a brit will have been dragged into 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: what appears to be a bit of a travel mess. 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: UK rules around passports are changing. Britain will require dual 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: nationals to have a UK passport if you're entering the 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 1: country now. Now the cost of that's two hundred and 6 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: twenty dollars, So this is a site if you've been Nevertheless, 7 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 1: the cost is two hundred and twenty dollars, which is 8 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: up from the previous thirty seven dollars for the yet 9 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: of visa anyway. Marcus Beverage is managing director and immigration 10 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: lawyer at Queen City Law and is back with It's Marcus. 11 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: Morning, Morning mate. 12 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: This seems to have taken on a life of its owner. 13 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: Is it just me? Every second person I'm talking to 14 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: is in paper plus photocopying off stuff for the British 15 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: Embassy these days? Are you seeing it as a thing? 16 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: Yes, I've got a couple of English neighbors who are 17 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: moaning a bit too, But I've sort of said we'll 18 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: look to get a golden visa in New Zealand. You 19 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: have to pay the New Zellian government about thirty thousand kiwi. 20 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: So you're two hundred and sixteen dollars for an adult 21 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: or one hundred and forty dollars for a kid, and 22 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: getting your passport photo photographed, sorry photocopied is not really 23 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: that big a deal and the greatest scheme of. 24 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: Things, but just for clarity's sake, what I'm getting, and 25 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: I got it from a travel agent who didn't seem 26 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: to know what the rules were, and they're suggesting all 27 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: the rumors or the urban myth is that if you're 28 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: a citizen by descent or a potential citizen by descent, 29 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: you're captured with that as well, which I understand now 30 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: not to be true. 31 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't think so. I think it's only 32 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: for dual citizens, and of course the perspective is to 33 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: be a dualist British citizen, you should consider yourself privilege 34 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 2: given say Chinese, Koreans and Donestians or only about one citizenship, 35 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: so when they become Kiwis, they have to give up 36 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: their other citizenship. Tax attaches to Japanese, USA and Chinese 37 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: too if they hold a passport. It doesn't for poms, 38 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: but there's also considerations like land ownership, pension eligibility, medical 39 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: treatment and so on. So it's not just something about 40 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: the passport. But my advice would be, I don't complain, 41 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: just get on with it. 42 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: Right. Dual citizenship can be two things, correct me if 43 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: I'm wrong. One you're born there or two by right, 44 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: whatever reason it was, you applied and got a passport, 45 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:07,279 Speaker 1: therefore became a citizen. But you've let that lapse, hence 46 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: the charm now. 47 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, And with the British Empire and the Commonwealth, 48 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: there are a few of these characters who seem to 49 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: think they're a bit immune from the rules. But my 50 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 2: guess is this is really about the Five Eyes and 51 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: the UK dragging the chain and probably letting in people 52 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: that they don't really know who they are and having 53 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: to pull their socks up. That's what I think. 54 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: Sits fine, That's what That was my next question, Why 55 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: are they doing it and for what purpose? In other words, 56 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: you know, what are they gain out of this? 57 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: Well, they say they've had twenty million movements across the 58 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: border between October twenty three and September twenty five. These 59 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: are these electronic travel authorizations which are becoming increasingly common. 60 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: But it means that they just have a better idea 61 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: of who's actually crossing the border. All that stuff has 62 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: biometric and biographic and contact details, questions about suitability and criminality. 63 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 2: So I guess they're just pulling their socks up into 64 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: of security. 65 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: And so the trauma that's come out of this is 66 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm assuming for people who are traveling and the administration 67 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: of doing it, and therefore they're a bit backed up 68 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: and therefore there might be delays, hence the Yanks. So 69 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: that's all we're really dealing with. I guess, isn't it. 70 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: Well, it becomes effective on the twenty fifth, fifth of February, 71 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 2: so it's not far away. And if you're some old 72 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: geezer it can't be bothered. Then you may be getting 73 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: the rubbid glove treatment and a bit more when you 74 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: cross the border. So I mean, like, get your act 75 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 2: together and get that photocopy, photocopy that passport's center, it 76 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: down to the Hay Commission and get it done. 77 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: Good stuff. Marcus. Appreciate you TI very much. If you 78 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: if you're some old geezer, you might get a bit 79 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: of the rubber glove. 80 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 81 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: news talks. 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