1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,800 Speaker 1: Jason Ricard, you're pumped. 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: Hammer time, Luke, you're on walking into the office. Here 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: a sea of green and gold. Little character chures up. 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: It's yeah, how good? What a weekend? 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Luke's spotting that our last one at home twenty thirteen. 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: It's been a long time. Do you remember that? Were 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: you there? 8 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: No? What? I was there, but I just actually finished 9 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 2: playing two years prior, three years prior, and I do 10 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: recall that Glen Moore was coaching and they had a 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: lucky escape in the semi final against West Coast. I 12 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: reckon and then the yeah, they come back and it 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: won the finals. So yeah, it takes. It's a massive 14 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: effort to get to a final, and then even bagger 15 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: to get to a home final. So it's a massive 16 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 2: day for a massive week for our whole community. And 17 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: look town scotten behind it too, haven't they. It's good. 18 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm loving the displays and also the videos coming through 19 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: from the lights of Me from Primary and Ashburton College 20 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: and even your property brokers team. This community, the community 21 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: is awesome. The Hammers themselves to go unbeaten through the 22 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: season as we have to lock away that hen and shield, 23 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: which again we haven't seen in a while. I mean 24 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: the writings there. 25 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 2: The writings there, we can't get ahead of ourselves. 26 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: Luke, Well, here's a bit of an unsettling setback right 27 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: to be. Cooter, the weapon that he is, is out 28 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: after breaking two bones in his foot. They bush last week. 29 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 2: I know how it's a shocker, and that where I 30 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: was talking to some of the guys earlier in the 31 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: week and you know Dubes came off hobbling a bit 32 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: and sort of going shivers. 33 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: I hope that's not too serious minute yea too. 34 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: Broken bones, tough fel but yeah, so that's a massive 35 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: play for the guys. 36 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: But you're here to reassure us about this guy who's 37 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: coming in to replace him, Dave Peel Absolutely no. 38 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: Look, this has been the absolute beautiful thing about this 39 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: team all season. They've been able to interchange players and 40 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: they've lost nothing, and it changes the game. Like two 41 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: weeks ago when Dubes also had a sore hammy, Dave 42 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: came in and the back three were outstanding that day 43 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: and they play a slightly different game. Penduluming around the 44 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: field and he's so quick, you know, with young Sampiers 45 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: and Hugh Cameron as well. So I'm excited. It's it's 46 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: a shame for Dubes, but look that's rugby. It gives 47 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: someone else an opportunity and I'm sure Dave will go well. 48 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: So that's one of two changes. The other is Tully's 49 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: impact on the bench last week earning him a start. 50 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: I said that talking the bench, WinCE has gone with 51 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: the six forwards and the two backs. 52 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gone off the bomb squad of out and 53 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: that has been a big feature of the mid Kenby side. 54 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: The bench and what they've added has been massive. Last 55 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: week you watched Esh and Carthur come off the bench 56 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: early in the second dig and he was immense. He's 57 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: also got leadership abilities. I was really impressed with both 58 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: Josh Dunlay and Oscar coming off the bench too. Like 59 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: the scrum lifted in the back half against you know 60 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: last week against the Bush and the Bush we had 61 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: a big forward pack. So to bring off, bring these 62 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: big fellows off the bench and get massive go forwardball 63 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: as are going into that strong wind last week was 64 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: massive and I'm looking forward to seeing the impact that 65 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: they bring to you. 66 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: I'm a little nervous away though, mate, seeing what the 67 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: Foxes did to South Canterbury and that semi last weekends 68 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: thirty something unanswered points in the second half. Yeah, they 69 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: know how to play. 70 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: They did. We were sort of keeping a table on 71 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: what was going on down the road on our phones, 72 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: that on the apps and that. Yeah, it was pretty 73 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: close and then neck minute, like you say, they just 74 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: kept boom boom, bom bomb. So they opened up a 75 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: can and that back end. But look, that probably goes 76 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: back to what I was mentioning before about what comes 77 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: off the bench. Thames Valley obviously had the impactful fellows 78 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,839 Speaker 2: coming off and you know, conversely, I know that that's 79 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: been a massive focus for us too in terms of 80 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: our defense. And if you think about, you know, against 81 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: the Bush last week, you know they were on a 82 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: tech for a fair chunk of that second dig and. 83 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: I didn't see much of us outside of our twenty. 84 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: That's right. 85 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 2: Well the wind was so hard, but our defense was stow. 86 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: It wasn't that And that's probably one concern of God 87 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: is how much of an effort you know, that took 88 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: out of the guys physically. So I'm sure many and 89 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: the team would have looked after the Fudders this week 90 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: at training because they would have been pretty puffed last 91 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: week being hot too, but smashing their bodies and yeah, 92 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 2: tough going. So yeah, we can't take the swamp Foxes lightly, Luke, 93 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: that's for sure. 94 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: Defenseman's Finals. At least we get to sleep in our 95 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: own beds via the Foxes traveling. Sounds like they're a 96 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: bunch of Thames Valley supporters are coming down too. I've 97 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: heard they've even been able to fill a bus from 98 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: christ chich Airport to the showgrounds tomorrow, including Swampy the mascot. 99 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 2: Swampy. 100 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, have we ever considered a Hammer's mascot? 101 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 2: We have, actually, Luke, We've actually debated and it's been 102 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: our new mayor, Elizabecmillan has been actually championing that for 103 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: quite some time and. 104 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: Has been her first declaration. 105 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that would be quite colong to. 106 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: Ticket take parade, although again we won't jump to that. 107 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: We won't jump to that. It'd be cool. So I 108 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: guess you know, the stuff that we can control is ourselves. 109 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: How do you embrace the pressure and feed off the occasion? 110 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: Jason Riccary, I was very fortunate to be involved in 111 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 2: a number of finals, and I was also unlucky we 112 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: never actually won one too, So that's tough, Luke, and 113 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: doesn't matter what's happened in the past now for eighty minutes, 114 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: it's just them all out war, isn't it. So what 115 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 2: I used to find and when I started in the 116 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: coaching role, I used to say, the players get involved 117 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: in the game early because they go so fast finals 118 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: the time seems to go doubly quick, and next minute 119 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: you turn around and you're deep into the second half. 120 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 2: So if you can get involved early as a player 121 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: and embracing the sideline and actually using that little things 122 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 2: will be different tomorrow. You know, like there's a national anthem, 123 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: for example, and a lot of our way and have 124 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: actually had that, so you know, the old hairs on 125 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 2: the back of your neck start tingling, and it's a 126 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: different moment, a different feel. It's palpable, it is, and 127 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: you've just got it. Like you say, you've actually got 128 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: to use it to the advantage and we're lucky we've 129 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: got the home advantage. So get involved early, whether it's 130 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: a big tackle, whether it's carrying the ball up, and 131 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,559 Speaker 2: then you'll settle straight into the game. And that first 132 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 2: fifteen minutes is always a test between both sides. Battling 133 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: and put of an arm wrestle in that for fifteen minutes. 134 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: Surely the thing that helps the most, As Daryl and 135 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: the Guardian has put it this morning, the twenty sixth 136 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: player us absolutely be there. 137 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 2: We've got to be there. We're just talking off here, Luke. 138 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: Last week's crowd was awesome, got drowned out by the 139 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 2: window bit you couldn't hear each other from side to side. 140 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: But this year we want to pack the park. Basically, 141 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: if we can get a massive crowd in there. You're 142 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: right and we've talked about this on here before, Luke. 143 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: The boys on the field feel it and know it. 144 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 2: And when you get into that tough moment and the 145 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: crowds cheering for you and you know, hooping and yelling 146 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: on the sideline, that makes all the difference. And yep, 147 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: so come on, mckennery, get down and support our Hammers.