1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,693 Speaker 1: from Newstalk SEDB. 3 00:00:12,813 --> 00:00:15,413 Speaker 2: Catherine Rains is with us now to talk books, and Catherine, 4 00:00:15,413 --> 00:00:17,573 Speaker 2: You've got a couple of New Zealand authors for us 5 00:00:17,613 --> 00:00:21,373 Speaker 2: this morning. Good morning, good morning, how are you good? 6 00:00:21,453 --> 00:00:25,093 Speaker 2: Thank you? A new book by Nikki Pellegrino, who I 7 00:00:25,213 --> 00:00:29,093 Speaker 2: know has many many fans she does, and this. 8 00:00:29,013 --> 00:00:31,853 Speaker 3: Is actually her fifteenth novel, and her books are often 9 00:00:31,893 --> 00:00:34,413 Speaker 3: said in Italy because it's a place that is familiar 10 00:00:34,493 --> 00:00:37,453 Speaker 3: to her from her childhood. And in this one, there's 11 00:00:37,493 --> 00:00:39,773 Speaker 3: two characters, Sky and Anna, and they seem like they 12 00:00:39,813 --> 00:00:42,853 Speaker 3: actually have nothing in common. So Sky's a cake maker 13 00:00:42,893 --> 00:00:46,333 Speaker 3: in the Cotswolds with a young family and is this 14 00:00:46,533 --> 00:00:49,533 Speaker 3: very successful editor of a best selling food magazine called 15 00:00:49,613 --> 00:00:53,813 Speaker 3: Colinaire and her whole life and her world is reflected 16 00:00:53,813 --> 00:00:56,333 Speaker 3: in this magazine when all of a sudden they decide 17 00:00:56,333 --> 00:00:58,293 Speaker 3: to close the doors of it, and she has no 18 00:00:58,413 --> 00:01:02,933 Speaker 3: idea what to do next, and for both of them, 19 00:01:02,973 --> 00:01:05,733 Speaker 3: for both characters, for Anna and Sky, all of a 20 00:01:05,773 --> 00:01:08,533 Speaker 3: sudden that they're world's changed, and Sky's pulled into this 21 00:01:09,333 --> 00:01:12,893 Speaker 3: all expenses paid Italian wedding competition with her partner Tim, 22 00:01:12,933 --> 00:01:16,333 Speaker 3: but he's actually fraudulently entered them in it, and actually 23 00:01:16,373 --> 00:01:18,453 Speaker 3: she's not really quite sure terribly if she wants to 24 00:01:18,493 --> 00:01:21,333 Speaker 3: marry him anymore after many years. And so they both 25 00:01:21,373 --> 00:01:24,173 Speaker 3: start on this path which ends up taking them to 26 00:01:24,213 --> 00:01:27,253 Speaker 3: the Italy and this beautiful town of Montanello. And so 27 00:01:27,253 --> 00:01:30,173 Speaker 3: you get these beautiful descriptions of the Italian countryside and 28 00:01:30,213 --> 00:01:33,333 Speaker 3: of course the mouth water and food and these fabulous 29 00:01:33,413 --> 00:01:36,493 Speaker 3: residents that you meet there. There's an older man who 30 00:01:36,533 --> 00:01:39,013 Speaker 3: you would just love to pull up and a chair 31 00:01:39,093 --> 00:01:42,053 Speaker 3: and a coffee in the glorious sunshine and the piazzo 32 00:01:42,133 --> 00:01:44,613 Speaker 3: and solve all your problems with And it's yeah, the 33 00:01:44,693 --> 00:01:48,893 Speaker 3: novel's perfect escapism really for an afternoon read. And yeah, 34 00:01:48,973 --> 00:01:52,213 Speaker 3: I love that invoking of the Italian countryside. 35 00:01:52,373 --> 00:01:54,133 Speaker 2: Yeah, she does that so well. It sounds like if 36 00:01:54,173 --> 00:01:56,413 Speaker 2: you've if you've enjoyed Niki Pellagrano's Box in the past, 37 00:01:56,413 --> 00:01:58,893 Speaker 2: this is going to very much the tick the box, 38 00:01:59,453 --> 00:02:03,133 Speaker 2: I think, so Okay. Rose Carlile, she released her first 39 00:02:03,173 --> 00:02:05,773 Speaker 2: novel was called The Girl in the Mirror, which was 40 00:02:05,973 --> 00:02:08,853 Speaker 2: just very and she's back with her second novel. 41 00:02:09,293 --> 00:02:11,413 Speaker 3: Actually this is her third one. What is a third 42 00:02:11,693 --> 00:02:14,493 Speaker 3: no no no, sorry, no, no, this is her second one. Sorry, no, 43 00:02:14,653 --> 00:02:15,133 Speaker 3: my mistake. 44 00:02:15,253 --> 00:02:19,093 Speaker 2: No, she's been busier than I thought she had been. 45 00:02:19,133 --> 00:02:20,573 Speaker 2: Carefun check them out. 46 00:02:21,733 --> 00:02:26,693 Speaker 3: No, but this storyline in here is is quite twisted 47 00:02:26,693 --> 00:02:29,893 Speaker 3: and a little bit unhinged and has this very weird 48 00:02:29,973 --> 00:02:34,173 Speaker 3: and unguessable plot, and the characters are completely unlikable and 49 00:02:34,293 --> 00:02:37,773 Speaker 3: there's lots of flair and over the top event so 50 00:02:37,813 --> 00:02:39,933 Speaker 3: you do have to suspend a little bit of disbeliefs 51 00:02:39,933 --> 00:02:42,973 Speaker 3: when you're reading it, because this wouldn't quite are not 52 00:02:43,093 --> 00:02:46,453 Speaker 3: sure play out life. But the story is based around Eve, 53 00:02:46,493 --> 00:02:49,893 Speaker 3: who finds herself alone and pregnant after tragedy strikes with 54 00:02:49,933 --> 00:02:53,413 Speaker 3: the death of her boyfriend. And she's introduced to this couple, 55 00:02:53,493 --> 00:02:55,693 Speaker 3: the Highgates, and they're very wealthy, and they make her 56 00:02:55,733 --> 00:03:00,573 Speaker 3: an offer effectively that she can't refuse. And she's really 57 00:03:00,573 --> 00:03:03,053 Speaker 3: desperate because she'd been sailing the Pacific for six months 58 00:03:03,053 --> 00:03:05,453 Speaker 3: and as I said, she's found herself pregnant and alone 59 00:03:05,493 --> 00:03:09,613 Speaker 3: and penniless, and his wealthy parents don't want anything to 60 00:03:09,613 --> 00:03:12,973 Speaker 3: do with her or their grandchild. So she's really desperate 61 00:03:13,053 --> 00:03:16,733 Speaker 3: in naivety, and this couple look like the perfect and 62 00:03:17,373 --> 00:03:20,933 Speaker 3: she agrees to move to this remote island hidden away 63 00:03:21,133 --> 00:03:24,333 Speaker 3: in Tasmania and a sworn to secrecy and can't tell 64 00:03:24,373 --> 00:03:27,133 Speaker 3: anybody where she's gone. And so you get this backdrop 65 00:03:27,173 --> 00:03:30,373 Speaker 3: of this very creepy remote island and the stream of 66 00:03:30,453 --> 00:03:34,573 Speaker 3: sequence and wealth like you wouldn't believe. And so a 67 00:03:34,653 --> 00:03:37,053 Speaker 3: real novel of suspense and if I tell you too 68 00:03:37,093 --> 00:03:42,253 Speaker 3: much more destroyed you can't the storyline. But yeah, lots 69 00:03:42,253 --> 00:03:45,893 Speaker 3: of consequences agreed and lies and facial mistakes and yeah, 70 00:03:46,253 --> 00:03:48,933 Speaker 3: like I said, a little bit unhinged and quite invisible, 71 00:03:48,973 --> 00:03:51,253 Speaker 3: but yeah, it's very well put together. 72 00:03:51,333 --> 00:03:54,453 Speaker 2: I think Rhodes creates writes books that would make I 73 00:03:54,493 --> 00:03:57,853 Speaker 2: can sort of see them as fantastic TV series or movies. 74 00:03:58,053 --> 00:04:00,213 Speaker 2: And I'm really pleased to see that she's talking about 75 00:04:00,253 --> 00:04:02,413 Speaker 2: sailing again because I know and I'm pretty sure I 76 00:04:02,453 --> 00:04:06,333 Speaker 2: remember from interviewing her Catherine, that she's done a lot 77 00:04:06,453 --> 00:04:09,293 Speaker 2: to sailing and sailed I think with her family from 78 00:04:09,293 --> 00:04:11,293 Speaker 2: Thailand to South Africa or something, and it's done a 79 00:04:11,293 --> 00:04:13,893 Speaker 2: bit in the seven typic Guidance, and she does capture 80 00:04:13,933 --> 00:04:16,013 Speaker 2: that feeling of being in the middle of nowhere on 81 00:04:16,053 --> 00:04:17,293 Speaker 2: a boat very very well. 82 00:04:17,933 --> 00:04:20,013 Speaker 3: Yeah, she does that isolation in the story. Yeah, it 83 00:04:20,053 --> 00:04:21,293 Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense if you've been out in 84 00:04:21,333 --> 00:04:23,013 Speaker 3: the middle of nowhere on a boat. She catches that 85 00:04:23,173 --> 00:04:28,093 Speaker 3: isolation extremely well. Yeah you sense this, and yeah, that's exactly, 86 00:04:28,373 --> 00:04:29,053 Speaker 3: very well done. 87 00:04:29,173 --> 00:04:32,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly nicely said. Thank you so much, Catherine. The 88 00:04:32,333 --> 00:04:34,973 Speaker 2: two books that Catherine spoke about today Marry Me in 89 00:04:35,053 --> 00:04:39,053 Speaker 2: Italy by Nicki Palagrino and No One Will Know by 90 00:04:39,213 --> 00:04:40,333 Speaker 2: Rose Carlyle. 91 00:04:41,293 --> 00:04:44,373 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 92 00:04:44,493 --> 00:04:47,293 Speaker 1: to News talks ' B from nine am Saturday, or 93 00:04:47,373 --> 00:04:49,293 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.