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Speaker 2: News Talk said B.

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Speaker 3: Golda New Zealand, Good morning and welcome to news Talks, EDB.

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Speaker 3: Jack tae with you through the midday today. And when

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Speaker 3: you think about it, the question of a favorite tonight

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Speaker 3: should be a total doozy. It should be a simple one.

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Speaker 3: A sitter, an absolute sitter. I mean, after all, the

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Speaker 3: Chiefs put sixteen points on the Crusaders the last time

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Speaker 3: they played. The Chiefs finished the regular season in first

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Speaker 3: place in the Crusaders well, they finished ninth in the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four season. And yet tonight, as we count

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Speaker 3: down to the Super Rugby Final in christ Church, given

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Speaker 3: the crusaders incredible winning record, the tab basically has these teams.

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Speaker 3: Even Stevens when it comes to a favorite for a

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Speaker 3: Super Rugby title, cannot wait to get our Sportos thoughts

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Speaker 3: on that it is a tantalizing prospect to Mighty Williams

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Speaker 3: back in the starting fifteen for the Crusaders, but is

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Speaker 3: he at full strength. We'll talk to our sporto before

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Speaker 3: ten o'clock. As well as that, I'm going to tell

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Speaker 3: you about the fantastic new film starring Sydney Sweeney and

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Speaker 3: Julianne Moore and where you can see that, And then

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Speaker 3: after ten o'clock this morning, our feature interview. Is the

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Speaker 3: star of one of those ridiculous reality TV shows that

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Speaker 3: follows a seemingly normal profession. So you know how there's

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Speaker 3: kind of a show for everything these days. We have

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Speaker 3: shows that follow ambulance cruise, we have shows that follow

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Speaker 3: border security. This show follows super yachts and I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you what it is, a runaway global smash hit. The

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Speaker 3: show is below Deck. Captain Kerry is one of the stars.

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Speaker 3: He's an Australian who for the last two decades has

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Speaker 3: been working the super yacht circuit. So he's going to

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Speaker 3: be with us after ten o'clock on news talks. He'db

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Speaker 3: to give us some of his war stories. Right now,

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Speaker 3: it's eight minutes past nine, Jack Dame, and everyone says

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Speaker 3: the best time to travel with a baby is before

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Speaker 3: right when you think about it. Most toddlers once they've

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Speaker 3: learnt to trot around the place live for nothing more.

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Speaker 3: All they want to do is walk. In fact, if

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Speaker 3: and waddling away. The moment your child is old enough

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Speaker 3: There is no reasoning with an exhausted one year old

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Speaker 3: You can't even vegetate them with a screen. As the

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Speaker 3: old advice goes, if you're going to travel with a

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Speaker 3: really young. Hold them tight and they'll mistake turbulence for rocking.

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Speaker 4: Or not.

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Speaker 3: As someone who usually prides themselves on embracing new experiences,

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Speaker 3: I felt an unmistakably growing sense of anxiety about our

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Speaker 3: already drenched in sweat. Timing an eight pm flight with

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Speaker 3: I've traveled enough and been sat next door near enough

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Speaker 3: The potential for either option is never more than a

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Speaker 3: The moment you're sure that your son couldn't possibly have

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Speaker 3: fix and jepanize your connection. It will be lord of

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Speaker 3: baby has tested my enthusiasm for the whole new experiences philosophy. Sure,

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Speaker 3: gone through a dozen nappies, three rompers, a cardigan, and

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Speaker 3: Marney's grandparents were waiting to meet their grandson for the

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Speaker 3: all worth it. Jack Tam ninety two ninety two is

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Speaker 3: me as well, Jackatnewstalk ZB dot Co dot Nz before

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Speaker 3: ten o'clock. If you've been invited along to a bit

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Speaker 3: of a mutterdicky shared dinner this weekend, a barbecue or something,

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Speaker 3: that hole. A pomegranate colieflower and seedy kale salad. It

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Speaker 3: with you shortly. Kevin Melnder Next though it's quarter past nine,

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Speaker 3: I'm Jack Tame, It's Saturday morning, and this is Newstalk ZEDB.

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Speaker 5: A little bit of way to kick off your weekend.

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Speaker 1: Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack team and beep

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Speaker 3: TALKSB eighteen fast nine on news Talks V with Jack Tame. Oh, Jack,

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Speaker 3: I ended up in tears at the end of that,

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Speaker 3: says Maxine. As a nana, I could picture it all.

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Speaker 3: I love your stories, Thanks so much, Maxine. Jack loved

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Speaker 3: that story about long haul traveling with a baby laughed

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Speaker 3: that grandma. Thank you ninety two ninety two if you

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Speaker 3: So yeah, manawats maki Kevin. Yeah, yeah, it's I'm I'm

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Speaker 3: a big fan of the Muttadikey holiday. It does feel like,

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Speaker 3: I mean, so many things to like about it. Great

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Speaker 3: I love that that it's a long weekend, that it

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Speaker 6: Diary of a Junior Doctor. I stumbled onto it and

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team

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Speaker 3: EDB, Well, I'm not winning everyone over. My goodness, Jack,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Jack, says Kate. But if you want sympathy

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Speaker 8: Just before we get onto the rugby I didn't even

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Speaker 3: watch as well. Money. Actually, I reckon might drum up

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Speaker 3: been there otherwise. Actually it could be a good thing

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Speaker 3: from the sport, at least from a spectator's perspective in

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Speaker 3: this part of the world. Thank you sir, We will

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Speaker 3: catch you again soon our sporto Andrew Saville there. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: the Panthers Warriors can off at five o'clock tonight at

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Speaker 3: the Crusaders. One name we didn't mention as to Mighty Williams.

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Speaker 3: He's back, although still with a little not a not

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Speaker 3: an injury cloud, just like a tiny little like a

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Speaker 3: little bit of injury condensation around him. I don't know

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Speaker 3: what's what's smaller than a cloud. I just I really

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Speaker 3: hope he's at full strength to night. Of course, the

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Speaker 3: All Blacks being named on Monday as well, so you'd

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Speaker 3: and certainly if you can, you'd think that would boost

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Speaker 3: the Crusader's chances. I'll get to Marie feedback in a

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Speaker 3: couple of minutes before ten o'clock. We've got that delicious

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Speaker 3: twenty five to ten, you with newstalks, he'd be I

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Speaker 3: That is Lord and Hammer. The new album is only

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Speaker 3: a week away. Virgin is of course the title of

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Speaker 3: Thank you for your feedback this morning heaps and heaps

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Speaker 3: the messages. Clear, flick me a note, say Jack. I

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Speaker 3: who were born eighteen months apart. Usually had to travel

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Speaker 3: on my own, and I soon learned that they'd sleep

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Speaker 3: half the time, usually at the same time, So my

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Speaker 3: was less of a problem. Once though, I got on

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Speaker 3: in Auckland and was promptly handed a glass of bubbles,

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Speaker 3: UK on my Loansome. Yeah, it's nice having met support. Clear, Peter,

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Speaker 3: flick me a note to say Jack. We headed home

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Speaker 3: to New Zealand from the UK. We had a six

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Speaker 3: of about thirty six hours. Yeah, I'm sure there are

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Speaker 3: other people who can relate to that as well. Thanks

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Speaker 3: Peter ninety two ninety two. If you want to send

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Speaker 3: us a text message this morning, right now, it is

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Speaker 3: twenty one minutes to ten on Newstalks, he'd be Francesca Rudgen,

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Speaker 3: our film reviewers, here with her picks for this weekend.

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Speaker 3: More than a Hi, good morning, and let's kick off

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Speaker 3: with a little bit of a listen to a film

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Speaker 3: that's currently screening on Apple TV Plus with some big

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Speaker 3: names the likes of Sydney Sweeney and Julianne Moore. This

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Speaker 3: is Echo Valley.

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Speaker 10: I hold, are you bleeding? You need to be completely

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Speaker 10: honest with me. Wow, I was with my boyfriend Worsted Oakley.

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Speaker 11: Is he okay?

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Speaker 12: But there was? It was an accident. It was here.

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Speaker 5: They had them for the rock.

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Speaker 3: Dun Dun d that's Echo Valley. Sounds kind of silius

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Speaker 3: to Franchisca.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, look, it's interesting this film. It's on Apple TV.

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Speaker 11: It's written by Brad Inglesby, who wrote Mayor of Easttown

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Speaker 11: It's directed by Michael Pierce and the film is kind

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Speaker 11: of in two parts. It sort of starts off as

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Speaker 11: quite a sad, melodramatic drama about a mother and a

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Speaker 11: daughter both trying to hold their lives together. Great cast.

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Speaker 11: Julianne Moore plays Kate and she is trying to recover

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Speaker 11: from the death of her wife. Her wife died suddenly

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Speaker 11: in an accident. She lives on her own on this

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Speaker 11: horse farm. She's a horse trainer and a riding coach

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Speaker 11: and she's really sort of struggling. And her daughter Claire

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Speaker 11: played by Sweeney Sidney Sweeney, Sidney Sidney Sidney Sweeney, thank you.

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Speaker 11: I'm glad someone's.

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Speaker 3: Prettiesspe that is me.

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Speaker 11: I've just been for a swim. I'd be to swim

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Speaker 11: and I think my.

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Speaker 3: Whole I see.

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Speaker 11: And she plays her daughter, Claire, and she's a drug

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Speaker 11: addict and over the years she has caused Kate a

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Speaker 11: lot of pain. She's put her through rehab, she's walked out,

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Speaker 11: she keeps going back.

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Speaker 2: To the drug.

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Speaker 11: Her druggy boyfriend that got caught up with these sort

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Speaker 11: of drug dealers and things, and in a way, Kate

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Speaker 11: is just holding on to a glimmer of hope that

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Speaker 11: maybe she will get her daughter back, the daughter that

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Speaker 11: she remembers. So there's a lot of flashbacks to her

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Speaker 11: childhood and things like that.

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Speaker 5: So it's kind of this.

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Speaker 11: Sort of melancholic, sort of sad, melodramatic film. Then it

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Speaker 11: switches and it switches into a thriller, and I was

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Speaker 11: really grateful for this switch because it instead of been

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Speaker 11: seeing a little claustrophobic with its sadness anyway, switches into

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Speaker 11: it into asrilla. And the question here is how far

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Speaker 11: will Kate go to save her daughter Claire? To protect

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Speaker 11: her daughter, and she definitely oversteps the line. She finds

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Speaker 11: herself in this whole new world of some pretty dodgy people,

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Speaker 11: and the question is can she pull us South out

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Speaker 11: of it? You know, can she pulled us south out

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Speaker 11: of her own grief to keep a clear head, to

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Speaker 11: get us South out of the situation. And so I

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Speaker 11: really liked it when it's switched up. I think the

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Speaker 11: performances from Julianne Moore and Sidney Sweeney are the best

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Speaker 11: thing about this film. They're both excellent. I really like

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Speaker 11: Sidney Sweeney in this film. She wears no makeup, You

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Speaker 11: actually find yourself going. I was watching her, go oh,

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Speaker 11: that is Sidney Sweeney.

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Speaker 3: It's great.

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Speaker 11: She's a very volatile character. She nails her character really well.

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Speaker 11: You never quite know what's going on, so the two

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Speaker 11: of them together, it's absolutely worth watching. Just didn't I

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Speaker 11: was really excited about the cast and the writer and things,

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Speaker 11: but didn't quite come together for me as well as

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Speaker 11: I hoped.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, all right, that's Echo Valley. It does sound

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Speaker 3: kind of interesting, like you say, at least that the

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Speaker 3: kind of charisma or the connection between Sidney Sweeney and

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Speaker 3: Julianne Moore sounds interesting. That screening on Apple TV Plus

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Speaker 3: at the moment. Also out in cinemas right now. Merchant

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Speaker 3: Ivory tell us about this. This was part of the

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Speaker 3: British and Irish Film Festival last year.

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Speaker 11: Yes, it did screen and it's come back now for

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Speaker 11: general release, so it's on in cinemas. And look, I

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Speaker 11: think all of us at some point has been to

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Speaker 11: or were dragged to a merchant Ivory film, you know,

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Speaker 11: A room with a view, The Remains of the Day,

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Speaker 11: Howard's End. In the eighties, they took the period drama,

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Speaker 11: the costume drama, and they turned it into these mainstream

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Speaker 11: global hits, and they kind of created a genre all

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Speaker 11: of their own, and it looked like they were this

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Speaker 11: independent production company was hugely successful, and they created this

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Speaker 11: great kind of formula for making these films with their

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Speaker 11: beautiful settings and lush, you know, costumes and wonderful music

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Speaker 11: and then these complex characters. They really nailed it, but

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Speaker 11: behind the scenes it was absolute chaos. So you had

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Speaker 11: Ismail Merchant, who was this producer who is called in

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Speaker 11: this documentary you just learn all about There's God. He's

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Speaker 11: a con man, he's a pirate. He he really did things,

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Speaker 11: you know. He pulled these films together with no money.

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Speaker 11: He was a hustler. He did everybody's head and people

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Speaker 11: would say after doing one of his films, I'm never

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Speaker 11: doing it again, and then they would charm them straight

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Speaker 11: back into the next film. And then you had and

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Speaker 11: then you had James Ivory who was the director, and

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Speaker 11: he was this gentle, soft person that loved to collaborate

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Speaker 11: with his artists and everybody that he would just get

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Speaker 11: the best of the best people on board. He'd make

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Speaker 11: sure they knew what they were doing, and then he'd

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Speaker 11: leave them to it, and they created these beautiful collaborations.

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Speaker 5: So it's a real.

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Speaker 11: Behind the scenes glimpse and the reality of trying to

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Speaker 11: be trying to make films you want to make. And

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Speaker 11: that was the difference between these guys. They did make

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Speaker 11: films they wanted to make. So look, if you've ever

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Speaker 11: you know, if you remember all those films in the

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Speaker 11: eighties and nineties, this is a really charming and entertaining

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Speaker 11: it's quite briskly keep it moving along really well, it's

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Speaker 11: filled with every star under the sun. So it's a

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Speaker 11: great little watch and a behind the scenes glimpse of

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Speaker 11: making movies.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so that's merchant Ivory that's showing in cinemas right now.

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Speaker 3: Giving it as the winter solstice, well I think it's

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Speaker 3: winter just after two o'clock this afternoon, isn't it. So

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Speaker 3: where'd you go for a swim? CHECKI poona Oh okay,

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Speaker 3: that's good. Yeah, look, guys can throw yourself out in

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Speaker 3: the back of the pih waves or something that would

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Speaker 3: be nice level but no, no, no, a quick depit

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Speaker 3: takapuna makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, very good.

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Speaker 11: We're doing all over the country and a lot colder

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Speaker 11: places than I did.

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Speaker 3: No, still, it's bracing, but a bracing way to stay.

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Speaker 3: You said it every morning. Thank you so much, Francisca.

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Speaker 3: Those films once again. Echo Valley is on Apple TV plus,

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Speaker 3: merchant Ivory is showing in cinemas. We'll make sure all

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Speaker 3: of the details for those films are up on the

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Speaker 3: news talks he'd be website. It is fourteen to.

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Speaker 1: Ten Saturday mornings with Jack tain keeping the conversation going

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Speaker 3: with Jack Tame. Okay, pop quiz, what do the bubble

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Speaker 3: firing pistol shrimp and the invisible glass frog have in common?

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Speaker 3: and second of all, that's kind of the point of

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Speaker 3: this amazing new documentary we're going to tell you about

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Speaker 3: after ten o'clock this morning, So if you've finished Franchesca's films,

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Speaker 3: this could be a great option. The show is called Underdogs.

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Speaker 3: It's like a nature documentary, but it looks at animals

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Speaker 3: that are kind of misfits or haven't really been covered

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Speaker 3: in a traditional David Attenborough style. Here's the lion hunting

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Speaker 3: you a bit more about that show after ten o'clock

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Speaker 3: this morning. Right now, though, Rows of Flannagan, one of

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Speaker 3: the two Raw Sisters, is with us.

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Speaker 13: Kilder, Hey, Jack, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm so well, thank you and really excited about your

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Speaker 3: recipe recipe this morning, because this is perfect if you

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Speaker 13: today for the rugby flyer maybe. So we've got the couliflowers.

644
00:33:20,973 --> 00:33:24,093
Speaker 13: So the couliflowers roasted up. Not sure if you've used

645
00:33:24,093 --> 00:33:27,093
Speaker 13: pomegranate the license before it a bit of a secret ingredient.

646
00:33:27,853 --> 00:33:31,813
Speaker 13: Drizzle that over your cauliflower flourettes on the baking trays

647
00:33:31,813 --> 00:33:34,453
Speaker 13: from cooking oil, sea salt. Toss that together and we

648
00:33:34,533 --> 00:33:36,813
Speaker 13: put that in the oven at two hundred degrees for

649
00:33:36,933 --> 00:33:40,213
Speaker 13: about thirty to thirty five minutes. Feel free to add

650
00:33:40,213 --> 00:33:42,453
Speaker 13: any other vegews in there as well, and then we

651
00:33:42,533 --> 00:33:45,733
Speaker 13: cook up some kinoa. So we're all about being intelligently

652
00:33:45,813 --> 00:33:49,293
Speaker 13: lazy in the kitchen. So while your couliflowers roasting, put

653
00:33:49,293 --> 00:33:52,293
Speaker 13: your kin wa in the pot with the water. Put

654
00:33:52,373 --> 00:33:56,013
Speaker 13: that away, while your kiln white and your cauliflower roasting,

655
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Speaker 13: We've got some quick pickled red onion, so easy, just

656
00:33:59,853 --> 00:34:02,613
Speaker 13: suddenly slice your red onion up and you can use

657
00:34:03,253 --> 00:34:07,653
Speaker 13: any other vgice. You could do carrots or what else,

658
00:34:07,933 --> 00:34:11,613
Speaker 13: even thinly sliced cauliflower as well as delicious with some

659
00:34:11,653 --> 00:34:15,813
Speaker 13: apple cider, vinegar or any other red wine, red wine vinegar,

660
00:34:15,853 --> 00:34:19,253
Speaker 13: white wine vinegar, sea salt, and stir that all together

661
00:34:19,373 --> 00:34:22,253
Speaker 13: and just let that pickle away and then it'll be

662
00:34:22,293 --> 00:34:25,573
Speaker 13: ready by the time you come to plate. We've also

663
00:34:25,653 --> 00:34:29,093
Speaker 13: got a pomegranate lemon oil, so that's just got some

664
00:34:29,253 --> 00:34:33,973
Speaker 13: extraversion olive oil, more pomegranate molassus, the vest and juice

665
00:34:33,973 --> 00:34:36,053
Speaker 13: of a lemon, and some sea salt. So just add

666
00:34:36,053 --> 00:34:38,653
Speaker 13: all of those ingredients into a bowl and mix it together.

667
00:34:39,293 --> 00:34:41,453
Speaker 13: And then once you've got all your components ready, So

668
00:34:41,493 --> 00:34:44,813
Speaker 13: your roasted couliflower, your cooked kin, while your quick pickled

669
00:34:44,813 --> 00:34:47,733
Speaker 13: red onion, your pomegranate lemon oil. It sounds like a lot,

670
00:34:47,773 --> 00:34:50,733
Speaker 13: but honestly, all of them are so simple to prepare

671
00:34:51,853 --> 00:34:54,253
Speaker 13: pretty much just add everything into a bowl. So we

672
00:34:54,293 --> 00:34:57,893
Speaker 13: add our roasted cauliflower into the bowl, the kiinoa. We've

673
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Speaker 13: got some kale, so thin leaf sliced kale leaves, got

674
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Speaker 13: some fresh herbs in there, so just use whatever you

675
00:35:04,133 --> 00:35:07,333
Speaker 13: prefer and have it home. We've got some hosted seeds

676
00:35:07,453 --> 00:35:11,013
Speaker 13: and your red onion, your pomegranate lemon oil, and toss

677
00:35:11,053 --> 00:35:12,813
Speaker 13: it all together. And you can make that two to

678
00:35:12,893 --> 00:35:14,853
Speaker 13: three hours in advance. But put it in a snap

679
00:35:14,893 --> 00:35:17,773
Speaker 13: pop container, easy to transport if you're going to a

680
00:35:17,853 --> 00:35:21,373
Speaker 13: friends or in a bowl. Cover it with a teatowel,

681
00:35:21,533 --> 00:35:24,653
Speaker 13: clean tetail, and then transport it if you're going out

682
00:35:24,693 --> 00:35:25,133
Speaker 13: as well.

683
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Speaker 3: That sounds so yum. And I'm a huge fan of

684
00:35:28,693 --> 00:35:31,493
Speaker 3: pomegranate molasses. Can I just say this recipe could not

685
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Speaker 3: have come at a better time for me personally. I

686
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Speaker 3: don't know how many of our listeners are currently staying

687
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Speaker 3: with their persian in laws, who of course have basically

688
00:35:37,973 --> 00:35:41,253
Speaker 3: nothing in their cupboards but for pomegranate molasses. And so

689
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Speaker 3: if I can work this out, I'll tell you what.

690
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Speaker 3: I Am just going to be the son in law

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Speaker 3: you know of dreams, mate.

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Speaker 13: Well, a lot of people actually ask where we get

693
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Speaker 13: our pomegranate molasses from. You can find it in the

694
00:35:54,173 --> 00:35:58,453
Speaker 13: international section of your supermarkets. So yeah, I know New

695
00:35:58,493 --> 00:36:02,293
Speaker 13: World definitely has it. Lebanon Gardens is the brand that

696
00:36:02,333 --> 00:36:05,933
Speaker 13: we use and what the markets generally have, so gone

697
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Speaker 13: check out your international section of just this market to

698
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Speaker 13: find some.

699
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you guys have got some great little alternatives

700
00:36:12,013 --> 00:36:14,373
Speaker 3: things you can swap in, right, So for stuff that's

701
00:36:14,413 --> 00:36:16,653
Speaker 3: seasonal or maybe not quite a seasonal, but you could

702
00:36:17,253 --> 00:36:21,293
Speaker 3: like replace a coulieflower with kermita or eggplant, capsicum, zucchini,

703
00:36:21,373 --> 00:36:23,773
Speaker 3: anything like that. And you could do that with a

704
00:36:23,773 --> 00:36:25,693
Speaker 3: few other things, like what could you swap for the

705
00:36:25,733 --> 00:36:27,413
Speaker 3: keenwa if you're not a huge keen wa fan?

706
00:36:28,093 --> 00:36:31,893
Speaker 13: Absolutely so brown rice also past the millet's a great

707
00:36:31,973 --> 00:36:37,053
Speaker 13: gluten free grain bolgle eat that's the Middle Eastern inspied grain.

708
00:36:37,213 --> 00:36:40,053
Speaker 13: So you can swap anything out. And Margaret and I

709
00:36:40,093 --> 00:36:41,973
Speaker 13: we really encourage you guys just use what you've got

710
00:36:41,973 --> 00:36:43,533
Speaker 13: at home, and don't feel like you have to gone

711
00:36:43,533 --> 00:36:47,533
Speaker 13: by every single ingredient at hot that the recipe calls for.

712
00:36:47,653 --> 00:36:50,653
Speaker 13: So as you said, j can be substudent in out,

713
00:36:50,733 --> 00:36:52,893
Speaker 13: in and out. We've got our grains. If you don't

714
00:36:52,933 --> 00:36:56,453
Speaker 13: have a red onion, put it, yeah, just leave it

715
00:36:56,453 --> 00:36:58,533
Speaker 13: out altogether. As I said, you can use a carrot,

716
00:36:58,533 --> 00:37:02,653
Speaker 13: you can use thinly sliced coulieflourish or something like that

717
00:37:02,973 --> 00:37:07,093
Speaker 13: reddish exactly. It's just a great chance to just creative

718
00:37:07,133 --> 00:37:08,933
Speaker 13: and use what you've got. And margl and I we

719
00:37:08,973 --> 00:37:13,133
Speaker 13: always like to serve obviously a salad. We encourage you

720
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Speaker 13: to serve it with your choice of protein as well,

721
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Speaker 13: so something like a slow cooked land leg and steak, salmon,

722
00:37:20,373 --> 00:37:25,013
Speaker 13: chicken filasfles if you're vegetarian. It all works really well.

723
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Speaker 3: So good. Hey, thank you so much for Roser. That

724
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Speaker 3: does sound amazing talking. Yeah, happy Matadiki weekend. We will

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Speaker 3: Supplements use talks be okay, how's about this? I'm not

735
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Speaker 3: just talking about game when it comes to the pomegranate

736
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Speaker 3: molasses for dinner at our place tonight is fest and June,

737
00:38:04,973 --> 00:38:08,933
Speaker 3: which is a Persian dish. It's a hot ash, which

738
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Speaker 3: is a stew, and the main ingredients are you have

739
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Speaker 3: a meat, so you have a protein like a chicken

740
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Speaker 3: or a dark or a lamb, and then you make

741
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Speaker 3: a paste out of pomegranate paste and ground walnuts. So

742
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Speaker 3: our house has been reverberating today with the food process

743
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Speaker 3: and mashing up all the walnuts for pest and June.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I will report back on that, but I

745
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Speaker 3: feel cautiously optimistic and saying I think it's gonna be delicious.

746
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Speaker 3: Thank you for your feedback this morning, Aaron flick me,

747
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Speaker 3: you know, to say, Jack loved your opening story this morning.

748
00:38:36,333 --> 00:38:38,613
Speaker 3: I feel like I've got PTSD. It certainly brought back

749
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Speaker 3: some memories but in your case, at the very least,

750
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Speaker 3: it sounds like the destination was worth all the pain

751
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Speaker 3: wait for this our feature interview this week Captain Kerry,

753
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Speaker 3: the Aussie star of Below Deck, the international super yacht

754
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Speaker 3: reality TV sensation News is next. Though it's almost ten o'clock.

755
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Speaker 3: in the Hot Seat through to twelve o'clock midday Today,

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Speaker 3: a new season of Below Deck has set sail on

762
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Speaker 3: our screens. The reality show has been running for more

763
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Speaker 3: than ten years now. It kind of chronicles the high pressure,

764
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Speaker 3: high stakes world of super yachts, where crews not only

765
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Speaker 3: have to navigate the normal challenges of life at sea,

766
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Speaker 3: but also have to deal with the whims of their

767
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Speaker 3: super rich clients. Captain Kerry is the man at the

768
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Speaker 3: helm of the super yachts St. David, and he joins

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Speaker 3: us this morning. Kilda. Welcome to the show.

770
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Speaker 5: Zee.

771
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Speaker 3: Oh it's so good to be speaking with you and

772
00:40:10,173 --> 00:40:12,213
Speaker 3: so good to see you down under At the moment,

773
00:40:12,293 --> 00:40:15,093
Speaker 3: I'm going to start with a really ridiculous seeming question. Okay,

774
00:40:15,173 --> 00:40:19,333
Speaker 3: imagine that I was an ostrich, I had my head

775
00:40:19,413 --> 00:40:21,213
Speaker 3: buried in the sand. Imagine I've been living in a

776
00:40:21,253 --> 00:40:24,453
Speaker 3: cave for the last fifteen years. How do you explain

777
00:40:24,573 --> 00:40:25,173
Speaker 3: below deck?

778
00:40:26,693 --> 00:40:26,973
Speaker 2: Mate?

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Speaker 9: It's it's a docudrama about all us guys worker on

780
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Speaker 9: a big yacht and it's shown all the stuff the

781
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Speaker 9: guests I.

782
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Speaker 2: Get to see.

783
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I reckon if you call it a docu drama.

784
00:40:39,853 --> 00:40:40,973
Speaker 3: It's heavy on the drama.

785
00:40:42,053 --> 00:40:46,573
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's a docu Softly, I.

786
00:40:46,613 --> 00:40:53,213
Speaker 3: Mean it is amazing because it combines big personalities, glamorous locations, money,

787
00:40:54,253 --> 00:40:56,973
Speaker 3: you know, it has all the ingredients for an amazing

788
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Speaker 3: and compelling show, which I think probably explains some of

789
00:41:00,013 --> 00:41:02,053
Speaker 3: its success. But take us back a little bit, how

790
00:41:02,133 --> 00:41:03,693
Speaker 3: did you get involved with super yachts?

791
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Speaker 9: So my okra in the middle of Queensland, out in

792
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Speaker 9: the bush, family of trades people. So there was never

793
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Speaker 9: a vision of me being on a boat. My earliest

794
00:41:14,493 --> 00:41:16,813
Speaker 9: memory of a boat was, you know, being on a

795
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Speaker 9: toboggle behind my dad's boat, or going a little bit

796
00:41:19,533 --> 00:41:22,133
Speaker 9: Sundays and seeing the guys running around and their budget

797
00:41:22,133 --> 00:41:25,013
Speaker 9: smugglers doing the parasailing. But it was never anything I

798
00:41:25,133 --> 00:41:27,293
Speaker 9: was going to do. I was destined to be electrician,

799
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Speaker 9: and I ended up giving that a shot. Things didn't

800
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Speaker 9: work out with the company I was at. I was

801
00:41:33,173 --> 00:41:35,573
Speaker 9: pumping fuel at a servo, dipping the oil that we

802
00:41:35,733 --> 00:41:37,813
Speaker 9: used to checking a tie pressure, and.

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00:41:39,293 --> 00:41:40,933
Speaker 14: A job popped up to be a deckhand in a

804
00:41:40,973 --> 00:41:41,853
Speaker 14: parasailing boat.

805
00:41:43,093 --> 00:41:46,493
Speaker 9: Back then, I had a lot of flowing long locks

806
00:41:46,493 --> 00:41:50,973
Speaker 9: of hair, and I rocked up at the boat and

807
00:41:51,093 --> 00:41:53,333
Speaker 9: I'm like, how good is this? You know, as electrician,

808
00:41:53,493 --> 00:41:55,573
Speaker 9: you get the phone call and they don't want to

809
00:41:55,613 --> 00:41:58,573
Speaker 9: give you money, and you know, doing tourism, you know,

810
00:41:58,773 --> 00:42:00,773
Speaker 9: on a parasailing boat, people got throw money at you

811
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Speaker 9: and get me out in the sun and meeting awesome people.

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Speaker 9: And that's god how it started off. While I was

813
00:42:07,413 --> 00:42:10,853
Speaker 9: doing that, this yacht pulled him beside us in Townsville,

814
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Speaker 9: and I was just amazed. It was forty meters yacht

815
00:42:15,133 --> 00:42:20,253
Speaker 9: and which you know those days, was massive, and I

816
00:42:20,333 --> 00:42:22,253
Speaker 9: saw the captain of his epaulets and all the crew,

817
00:42:22,333 --> 00:42:24,213
Speaker 9: and I oh, one day.

818
00:42:24,093 --> 00:42:24,693
Speaker 7: I want to do that.

819
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Speaker 14: And it got a me a job. But you know,

820
00:42:28,253 --> 00:42:30,693
Speaker 14: I was young and in love and wasn't ready to leave.

821
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Speaker 9: And probably fast forward fifteen years I met that captain

822
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Speaker 9: in Fort Lauderdale and then five years later, by chance,

823
00:42:38,733 --> 00:42:39,853
Speaker 9: by captain that same boat.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

825
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Speaker 3: Well, it's amazing how it's kind of a full circle thing, right,

826
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Speaker 3: Like you you know, you have to wonder about the

827
00:42:48,213 --> 00:42:50,733
Speaker 3: higher power or something you know that can it kind

828
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Speaker 3: of explain that serendipity when you think of a journey

829
00:42:53,933 --> 00:42:55,773
Speaker 3: like that, and what is it that you love about

830
00:42:55,893 --> 00:42:57,733
Speaker 3: being on the water so much to this day because

831
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Speaker 3: you've been doing it for dear, I say, almost three decades,

832
00:43:03,253 --> 00:43:04,013
Speaker 3: but your.

833
00:43:03,893 --> 00:43:07,133
Speaker 9: Spot on I got on my first it was eighteen

834
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Speaker 9: and I'm forty nine now fifty coming up in December.

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Speaker 14: It's just an it's incredible, mate. Like I said, I

836
00:43:15,253 --> 00:43:17,093
Speaker 14: grew up in the bush, you know, but I always

837
00:43:17,133 --> 00:43:17,533
Speaker 14: love water.

838
00:43:17,933 --> 00:43:19,573
Speaker 9: You know, a go on the river, you know, making

839
00:43:19,613 --> 00:43:21,893
Speaker 9: a rope swing, you know, waiting for the floods to

840
00:43:21,933 --> 00:43:23,693
Speaker 9: come by, and you know, getting up to no good.

841
00:43:24,333 --> 00:43:26,373
Speaker 14: So it's just where I'm meant to be, mate. I

842
00:43:26,453 --> 00:43:27,213
Speaker 14: loving in the water.

843
00:43:27,373 --> 00:43:29,733
Speaker 9: I love the environment and the energy of people around,

844
00:43:29,893 --> 00:43:34,813
Speaker 9: like most people who have a boat are smiling. You know,

845
00:43:35,013 --> 00:43:37,773
Speaker 9: it's just a great cold too part of and you

846
00:43:37,853 --> 00:43:40,693
Speaker 9: know all lands are connected by water, so I get

847
00:43:40,773 --> 00:43:41,693
Speaker 9: to explore the world.

848
00:43:41,973 --> 00:43:43,773
Speaker 14: Yeah on someone else is dying.

849
00:43:44,013 --> 00:43:50,493
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, that's a key better I reckon. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So,

850
00:43:51,693 --> 00:43:53,733
Speaker 3: So what did you think of below deck when you

851
00:43:53,813 --> 00:43:58,093
Speaker 3: were working as a captain working in the industry, presumably

852
00:43:58,173 --> 00:44:00,213
Speaker 3: being aware of the show and the kind of impact

853
00:44:00,253 --> 00:44:01,853
Speaker 3: it was having, but being on the outside.

854
00:44:02,253 --> 00:44:06,053
Speaker 9: It's really evolved into a showcase of our industry where

855
00:44:06,213 --> 00:44:09,013
Speaker 9: it's Maine. People are there's actually a job out there

856
00:44:09,053 --> 00:44:12,693
Speaker 9: to do, you know, as Aussie's and Kiwi's we pretty

857
00:44:12,773 --> 00:44:16,813
Speaker 9: much own the market and yotting up until the recession

858
00:44:16,853 --> 00:44:18,733
Speaker 9: happened in the States in two thousand and eight and

859
00:44:18,893 --> 00:44:22,613
Speaker 9: like Kiwis and asses went home. But especially for America,

860
00:44:22,653 --> 00:44:24,293
Speaker 9: there's people there in the middle of the country they

861
00:44:24,293 --> 00:44:27,253
Speaker 9: had no idea that God existed. So it's opened up

862
00:44:27,293 --> 00:44:30,253
Speaker 9: the market for crew more American student to join the

863
00:44:30,293 --> 00:44:33,053
Speaker 9: industry and those around the world. And it's also open

864
00:44:33,133 --> 00:44:34,693
Speaker 9: of a market of people who had no idea they

865
00:44:34,693 --> 00:44:36,813
Speaker 9: could rent a yacht for a week. Yeah, so it's

866
00:44:36,893 --> 00:44:37,493
Speaker 9: quite exciting.

867
00:44:37,693 --> 00:44:40,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned the Kiwis and Aussies. I mean, I've

868
00:44:40,173 --> 00:44:42,613
Speaker 3: got mates have gone and spent years working on two

869
00:44:42,613 --> 00:44:45,213
Speaker 3: b Yocht's kind of as an oe, you know. It's

870
00:44:45,253 --> 00:44:47,653
Speaker 3: the kind of their right of passage, if you like.

871
00:44:47,733 --> 00:44:49,613
Speaker 3: They go overseas and it's a great way to see

872
00:44:49,653 --> 00:44:52,653
Speaker 3: the world, meet interesting people, learn some valuable skills. What

873
00:44:52,853 --> 00:44:55,173
Speaker 3: is it about Kiwis and Aussies that you think make

874
00:44:55,533 --> 00:44:56,853
Speaker 3: for good crew on two Beyots.

875
00:44:59,293 --> 00:45:02,213
Speaker 14: I really think you know, more I travel and those

876
00:45:02,253 --> 00:45:05,933
Speaker 14: who have travels. This Commonwealth thing's real, you know, it's

877
00:45:06,493 --> 00:45:10,293
Speaker 14: of the Brits. Same with the Canadians. You know, we

878
00:45:10,653 --> 00:45:12,813
Speaker 14: just had this work ethic and we don't to go

879
00:45:12,893 --> 00:45:15,933
Speaker 14: so too seriously. We're used to doing the hard yards,

880
00:45:16,053 --> 00:45:16,533
Speaker 14: you know what I mean.

881
00:45:16,573 --> 00:45:18,613
Speaker 9: And I think what makes and I think the real

882
00:45:18,733 --> 00:45:21,853
Speaker 9: factual part of it is is, you know, we get

883
00:45:21,933 --> 00:45:24,293
Speaker 9: so excited we're going to go and travel, and we're

884
00:45:24,333 --> 00:45:26,373
Speaker 9: gonna wherever it won't be right, like a lot of

885
00:45:26,413 --> 00:45:29,613
Speaker 9: ozes go to Whistler, you know, or London, and the

886
00:45:29,733 --> 00:45:31,773
Speaker 9: last thing we want is to pull the pin and

887
00:45:31,853 --> 00:45:33,733
Speaker 9: go home with a tuble to our legs. I think

888
00:45:33,893 --> 00:45:36,893
Speaker 9: I think our pride gets in the way, So forces

889
00:45:36,933 --> 00:45:40,373
Speaker 9: asked to stick it out when it's tough, and you know,

890
00:45:40,493 --> 00:45:42,093
Speaker 9: when you're in the US, you know, you get some

891
00:45:42,333 --> 00:45:44,213
Speaker 9: you know, some young guy from Kansas and it gets

892
00:45:44,253 --> 00:45:44,893
Speaker 9: a little too hard.

893
00:45:45,373 --> 00:45:47,173
Speaker 14: One hundred bucks is flown over to his mum's house.

894
00:45:48,013 --> 00:45:49,853
Speaker 9: Yeah, for us, we've got to stick it out because

895
00:45:49,853 --> 00:45:52,093
Speaker 9: you know, you know, our mates were shameless if we don't.

896
00:45:54,013 --> 00:45:55,893
Speaker 3: That's a good that's that's not actually a side of

897
00:45:55,933 --> 00:45:58,013
Speaker 3: things I considered before. That's a very good point of it.

898
00:45:59,133 --> 00:46:01,493
Speaker 3: So how does it work when you when you're filming

899
00:46:01,533 --> 00:46:04,333
Speaker 3: the show and you're filming a series like like, I'm

900
00:46:04,373 --> 00:46:06,093
Speaker 3: sure people ask you this all the time, but how

901
00:46:06,173 --> 00:46:11,573
Speaker 3: much of what we're seeing on Telly is real four

902
00:46:11,573 --> 00:46:12,133
Speaker 3: fed income?

903
00:46:12,453 --> 00:46:13,173
Speaker 14: Four feed income?

904
00:46:14,813 --> 00:46:17,533
Speaker 9: Now, what people are going through at the time, you know,

905
00:46:17,773 --> 00:46:20,773
Speaker 9: is all their own thing happening. And you know, the

906
00:46:21,293 --> 00:46:24,053
Speaker 9: the environment is a lot more intense.

907
00:46:23,693 --> 00:46:25,053
Speaker 14: Than a regular yacht season.

908
00:46:25,493 --> 00:46:28,613
Speaker 9: Okay, we're filming what a season would be three or

909
00:46:28,653 --> 00:46:31,453
Speaker 9: four months, we're doing in six weeks right where you

910
00:46:31,533 --> 00:46:33,253
Speaker 9: know that where a lot of stress comes into the

911
00:46:33,333 --> 00:46:36,293
Speaker 9: job is turning the boat over. So when the guests leave,

912
00:46:36,853 --> 00:46:38,733
Speaker 9: turning it over, getting it ready for the next trip.

913
00:46:39,053 --> 00:46:41,653
Speaker 9: That's so much pressure. So when I run a yacht

914
00:46:41,693 --> 00:46:44,173
Speaker 9: off TV, I will try and give three or four

915
00:46:44,253 --> 00:46:47,413
Speaker 9: days between charters, and it's a it's a one week charter.

916
00:46:48,133 --> 00:46:52,413
Speaker 14: We're here, We're doing nearly three charters a week for

917
00:46:52,493 --> 00:46:54,613
Speaker 14: six weeks. So so everything is real.

918
00:46:55,333 --> 00:46:59,253
Speaker 9: It's just the environment is a lot more intense than

919
00:46:59,293 --> 00:47:01,293
Speaker 9: you would typically find in the industry.

920
00:47:01,413 --> 00:47:04,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, and going back to the docu drama thing often,

921
00:47:05,613 --> 00:47:07,653
Speaker 3: I mean a thing that makes the show so so

922
00:47:07,813 --> 00:47:11,693
Speaker 3: fun and so compelling is the relationships between different members

923
00:47:11,693 --> 00:47:14,053
Speaker 3: of the crew and the various ways in which they

924
00:47:14,173 --> 00:47:16,933
Speaker 3: either work together or work against each other when problems

925
00:47:16,973 --> 00:47:19,013
Speaker 3: come up, and that kind of thing, and the personal

926
00:47:19,093 --> 00:47:23,413
Speaker 3: intimate relations between crew. So how how realistic is that stuff?

927
00:47:23,493 --> 00:47:23,613
Speaker 15: Is it?

928
00:47:23,893 --> 00:47:24,053
Speaker 9: You know?

929
00:47:24,333 --> 00:47:24,653
Speaker 16: It is it?

930
00:47:25,933 --> 00:47:30,573
Speaker 3: Is it amplified? Do you think by that really strict schedule,

931
00:47:30,653 --> 00:47:33,693
Speaker 3: that really intense schedule, do you think the personal relationships

932
00:47:33,733 --> 00:47:35,533
Speaker 3: are kind of amplified as well?

933
00:47:36,413 --> 00:47:36,573
Speaker 2: Well?

934
00:47:36,613 --> 00:47:38,213
Speaker 14: I think all of us after a long, hard day

935
00:47:38,253 --> 00:47:39,573
Speaker 14: at work one hund don't we.

936
00:47:44,573 --> 00:47:44,773
Speaker 13: Sure?

937
00:47:44,813 --> 00:47:46,693
Speaker 3: I mean, things go beyond the heart. I've seen the show,

938
00:47:46,733 --> 00:47:47,213
Speaker 3: don't worry.

939
00:47:47,813 --> 00:47:50,213
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, I mean, so you know, no one is

940
00:47:50,213 --> 00:47:52,853
Speaker 17: gonna be you know, morning Radio. We need to make

941
00:47:52,893 --> 00:47:55,573
Speaker 17: sure that we are, you know, take sure of that.

942
00:47:55,813 --> 00:47:58,573
Speaker 17: But but no, mate, it's I was Crewe as well.

943
00:47:58,773 --> 00:48:02,173
Speaker 14: You know, I'll work. I've worked on you know, little

944
00:48:02,213 --> 00:48:03,813
Speaker 14: board vessels between.

945
00:48:03,573 --> 00:48:06,493
Speaker 9: Cans and towns all and you know, you know I

946
00:48:07,533 --> 00:48:09,453
Speaker 9: met some people on those cruises and they're only a

947
00:48:09,533 --> 00:48:13,293
Speaker 9: four day cruise, right, So you know what's interesting is

948
00:48:13,453 --> 00:48:16,613
Speaker 9: is you know you get these people who former relationship.

949
00:48:17,613 --> 00:48:20,093
Speaker 14: From different walks of life that you would never normally.

950
00:48:19,853 --> 00:48:22,893
Speaker 9: Be hanging out to it with each other and seeing

951
00:48:22,973 --> 00:48:27,093
Speaker 9: how they both change and grow together or you know.

952
00:48:28,613 --> 00:48:33,373
Speaker 14: Yeah, so you know it's it's it happens. You know.

953
00:48:33,573 --> 00:48:37,173
Speaker 9: You imagine like you're putting two people into a cabin

954
00:48:37,333 --> 00:48:40,253
Speaker 9: small at a prison cell, yeah right.

955
00:48:40,453 --> 00:48:42,893
Speaker 3: And putting them under a lot of pressure, a lot.

956
00:48:42,853 --> 00:48:45,493
Speaker 14: Of pressure and different nationalities, right. I mean, you know

957
00:48:45,573 --> 00:48:46,213
Speaker 14: I was in Gee.

958
00:48:46,293 --> 00:48:48,293
Speaker 9: We expeact the same language, but there's some things we

959
00:48:48,333 --> 00:48:49,933
Speaker 9: say to each other that might offend one or the

960
00:48:50,013 --> 00:48:51,453
Speaker 9: other that wouldn't really offend each other.

961
00:48:51,573 --> 00:48:51,693
Speaker 2: Right.

962
00:48:52,013 --> 00:48:54,693
Speaker 18: Imagine imagine putting an American and resilient in there and

963
00:48:54,773 --> 00:48:57,053
Speaker 18: Argentinian in there, Scott, you know what I mean, Like

964
00:48:58,133 --> 00:49:00,853
Speaker 18: we're all speaking English but a different version of it,

965
00:49:01,213 --> 00:49:02,893
Speaker 18: and and that's where.

966
00:49:02,813 --> 00:49:05,413
Speaker 9: A lot of the drama comes from, as people misunderstanding

967
00:49:05,413 --> 00:49:08,333
Speaker 9: each other. But you know, within that, mate, I'm a

968
00:49:08,453 --> 00:49:10,573
Speaker 9: huge advocate of mental health and I want to make

969
00:49:10,613 --> 00:49:13,013
Speaker 9: sure that people are on the right page. And if

970
00:49:13,053 --> 00:49:14,573
Speaker 9: that means that he cuddles at night time to be

971
00:49:14,613 --> 00:49:16,453
Speaker 9: ready for it the next day, well that's fine with me.

972
00:49:17,773 --> 00:49:21,453
Speaker 3: So what, what's the craziest thing you've seen in a boat?

973
00:49:21,733 --> 00:49:24,093
Speaker 3: What's the craziest request you've ever had from a client?

974
00:49:26,013 --> 00:49:28,653
Speaker 9: You know, you got the typical ones where a Russian

975
00:49:28,893 --> 00:49:31,133
Speaker 9: oligar who wants his caveat flown in. You know that

976
00:49:31,173 --> 00:49:36,053
Speaker 9: one's been overdone. But probably I was working as captain

977
00:49:36,133 --> 00:49:37,213
Speaker 9: or a mate. I think I was working as a

978
00:49:37,293 --> 00:49:40,893
Speaker 9: mate at the time, and there was Russian guests and

979
00:49:41,053 --> 00:49:42,893
Speaker 9: you know, we're on anchor, so the boat's laying let's

980
00:49:42,893 --> 00:49:45,413
Speaker 9: just say the boat's laying to the south, and the

981
00:49:45,533 --> 00:49:48,573
Speaker 9: guest is sitting on the on the back cushions of

982
00:49:48,613 --> 00:49:50,533
Speaker 9: the aft deck and he's looking left.

983
00:49:51,413 --> 00:49:54,853
Speaker 14: And he's like, I want the sunset over there.

984
00:49:58,173 --> 00:49:59,853
Speaker 9: So you just got the set, you know, and the

985
00:49:59,933 --> 00:50:01,733
Speaker 9: crew are like getting upset. The captain said moved the

986
00:50:01,733 --> 00:50:03,573
Speaker 9: boat and Reckon said, the captain says, carry make it happen.

987
00:50:03,613 --> 00:50:05,573
Speaker 9: I said, no worries, mate. So with all the toys

988
00:50:05,613 --> 00:50:07,573
Speaker 9: back in the boat, I've got the tender, and I

989
00:50:07,733 --> 00:50:09,453
Speaker 9: towed the stern of the boat and just brought it

990
00:50:09,533 --> 00:50:12,173
Speaker 9: around the other way, so now you could look over

991
00:50:12,253 --> 00:50:13,973
Speaker 9: the same shoulder and see the sunset.

992
00:50:14,133 --> 00:50:17,733
Speaker 3: That's so good. You're so you're in the tender just

993
00:50:17,813 --> 00:50:20,493
Speaker 3: basically trying to pull the bow of the boat round.

994
00:50:21,013 --> 00:50:25,293
Speaker 3: So yeah, round right, But and then and then kind

995
00:50:25,333 --> 00:50:28,213
Speaker 3: of holding the position there the whole time went down.

996
00:50:28,293 --> 00:50:29,093
Speaker 14: I something went down.

997
00:50:29,133 --> 00:50:30,653
Speaker 17: I held it for twenty minutes and then it went

998
00:50:30,733 --> 00:50:33,213
Speaker 17: down and then to the edge off a flat back

999
00:50:33,213 --> 00:50:33,533
Speaker 17: around it.

1000
00:50:33,613 --> 00:50:36,533
Speaker 3: Oh that's outstanding. Yeah, God, it must be, it must be.

1001
00:50:37,133 --> 00:50:38,853
Speaker 3: It must be a hell of a life. Do you

1002
00:50:39,253 --> 00:50:40,813
Speaker 3: do you miss try Land? Is there any part of

1003
00:50:40,853 --> 00:50:43,333
Speaker 3: you that thinks, you know what, I've been doing this

1004
00:50:43,613 --> 00:50:46,173
Speaker 3: a few years now. I've had some crazy experiences, but

1005
00:50:46,293 --> 00:50:48,973
Speaker 3: maybe it's time to, you know, have a bit more

1006
00:50:49,013 --> 00:50:49,973
Speaker 3: time on terra Firma.

1007
00:50:50,813 --> 00:50:51,013
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1008
00:50:51,133 --> 00:50:53,653
Speaker 9: Yeah, So I filmed the show each year, and when

1009
00:50:53,653 --> 00:50:55,973
Speaker 9: I'm not filming the show, I have my own yacht

1010
00:50:56,013 --> 00:50:59,053
Speaker 9: manager company in Florida. So I formed that when I

1011
00:50:59,133 --> 00:51:02,493
Speaker 9: was filming Blow Deck Adventure so I could be home.

1012
00:51:02,373 --> 00:51:02,933
Speaker 14: All my kids.

1013
00:51:03,093 --> 00:51:06,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. It's got

1014
00:51:06,613 --> 00:51:08,093
Speaker 3: to have some balance, especially if you're going to be

1015
00:51:08,133 --> 00:51:09,413
Speaker 3: working as intensely as you are.

1016
00:51:10,373 --> 00:51:12,293
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll put I'll put my time in, you know,

1017
00:51:12,413 --> 00:51:16,533
Speaker 9: I'll put in my twenty years so nothing you know,

1018
00:51:18,573 --> 00:51:19,773
Speaker 9: and all the fruits in my labor.

1019
00:51:19,973 --> 00:51:20,173
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1020
00:51:20,973 --> 00:51:23,253
Speaker 3: Well, look, congratulations on the new series. Thank you so

1021
00:51:23,373 --> 00:51:25,613
Speaker 3: much for giving us your time. We really appreciate it.

1022
00:51:25,733 --> 00:51:27,133
Speaker 3: And good luck out there.

1023
00:51:28,253 --> 00:51:29,693
Speaker 14: Thanks mate. And is it I remember this?

1024
00:51:30,093 --> 00:51:38,093
Speaker 3: It Cura cura very good, so good. Yeah, it's good

1025
00:51:38,133 --> 00:51:41,173
Speaker 3: effort for Methodicky Weekend as well. We appreciate it. Captain

1026
00:51:41,253 --> 00:51:43,813
Speaker 3: Carey is one of the stars of Below Deck. If

1027
00:51:43,813 --> 00:51:45,813
Speaker 3: you've never seen it, it's an experience. It's one of

1028
00:51:45,853 --> 00:51:48,653
Speaker 3: those shows that people think they won't like, and they

1029
00:51:48,733 --> 00:51:50,493
Speaker 3: go and brag to all of their friends that they're

1030
00:51:50,573 --> 00:51:52,773
Speaker 3: way too sophisticated. Do we ever like a show like

1031
00:51:52,853 --> 00:51:54,653
Speaker 3: Below Deck? It's kind of like a Real Housewives or

1032
00:51:54,693 --> 00:51:56,493
Speaker 3: something in that sense, and then all of a sudden,

1033
00:51:56,493 --> 00:51:59,613
Speaker 3: they watch five minutes of one episode and neck minute

1034
00:51:59,613 --> 00:52:02,133
Speaker 3: they've watched eight seasons. It has that sort of effect

1035
00:52:02,213 --> 00:52:04,573
Speaker 3: on people. We've got all the details for the new

1036
00:52:04,613 --> 00:52:07,333
Speaker 3: season up on the News Talks. He'd be website before

1037
00:52:07,333 --> 00:52:10,533
Speaker 3: eleven o'clock on News Talks dB. Facebook is changing some

1038
00:52:10,733 --> 00:52:15,413
Speaker 3: of its login processes. They say it's to improve security

1039
00:52:15,453 --> 00:52:18,293
Speaker 3: around people's accounts, so you should see fewer people complaining

1040
00:52:18,373 --> 00:52:20,613
Speaker 3: that their Facebook account has been hacked. But we're going

1041
00:52:20,693 --> 00:52:23,053
Speaker 3: to get our textport in to explain exactly what it's

1042
00:52:23,093 --> 00:52:25,213
Speaker 3: going to mean for you if you're a Facebook user.

1043
00:52:25,373 --> 00:52:27,853
Speaker 3: Very shortly. Right now, it's twenty past.

1044
00:52:27,693 --> 00:52:31,813
Speaker 5: Ten, start your weekend off in style. Saturday mornings with

1045
00:52:32,013 --> 00:52:32,813
Speaker 5: Jack Tame.

1046
00:52:32,813 --> 00:52:35,293
Speaker 1: And bpewer dot co do dot in seat for high

1047
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1048
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Speaker 3: Twenty three minutes past ten on your Saturday morning, you're

1049
00:52:41,293 --> 00:52:43,453
Speaker 3: with Jack Tame. Life is all about balance, so I

1050
00:52:43,573 --> 00:52:46,693
Speaker 3: reckon if you've just finished up all ten seasons of

1051
00:52:46,853 --> 00:52:49,333
Speaker 3: Below Deck, you'll be looking for something just to even

1052
00:52:49,413 --> 00:52:51,573
Speaker 3: things out a little bit. Chris Shultz's in for screen

1053
00:52:51,613 --> 00:52:54,693
Speaker 3: time this week, and he's chosen three documentaries because we

1054
00:52:54,773 --> 00:52:57,013
Speaker 3: figure that if you've watched Below Deck, you're going to

1055
00:52:57,093 --> 00:52:59,693
Speaker 3: need just a little bit of something there morning.

1056
00:52:59,773 --> 00:53:01,853
Speaker 5: Chris morning, Jake, how's it going.

1057
00:53:02,493 --> 00:53:03,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very.

1058
00:53:03,373 --> 00:53:06,333
Speaker 3: Well, thank you. Okay, three fantastic documentaries you can stream

1059
00:53:06,613 --> 00:53:09,013
Speaker 3: or watch at home to talk us through this morning.

1060
00:53:09,093 --> 00:53:11,893
Speaker 3: Let's begin with one that's on Netflix. Tell us about

1061
00:53:12,013 --> 00:53:14,213
Speaker 3: train Wreek, the Astro World Tragedy.

1062
00:53:15,173 --> 00:53:19,173
Speaker 19: Yeah, well, we all all remember fire Fest, this ridiculous

1063
00:53:19,493 --> 00:53:24,093
Speaker 19: festival from twenty seventeen that promised the world. It was

1064
00:53:24,133 --> 00:53:27,973
Speaker 19: a festival in the Bahamas and all these influences got

1065
00:53:28,053 --> 00:53:29,893
Speaker 19: sucked into spending all their money on going and I

1066
00:53:29,973 --> 00:53:34,173
Speaker 19: ended up with no music, living in disaster tents and

1067
00:53:35,413 --> 00:53:39,773
Speaker 19: seeing tea sandwiches. This is not that, this is Astro World.

1068
00:53:39,853 --> 00:53:44,413
Speaker 19: This is a Travis Scott festival disaster from twenty twenty one.

1069
00:53:44,613 --> 00:53:47,013
Speaker 19: I don't know if you remember that time, Jack. It

1070
00:53:47,093 --> 00:53:48,893
Speaker 19: was a time when we weren't having a lot of

1071
00:53:48,973 --> 00:53:52,573
Speaker 19: music festivals. The world had been in lockdown, and this

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00:53:52,853 --> 00:53:56,173
Speaker 19: was one of the biggest going at that time that

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00:53:56,373 --> 00:53:58,653
Speaker 19: was being streamed on Apple Music. I had it set

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00:53:58,733 --> 00:54:00,453
Speaker 19: up in my lounge. We've just been through that five

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00:54:00,533 --> 00:54:03,573
Speaker 19: month lockdown, and so I was like, even if it's

1076
00:54:03,693 --> 00:54:05,773
Speaker 19: just on my laptop, I want to go to a

1077
00:54:05,893 --> 00:54:08,413
Speaker 19: music chest. Well, I want to to experience a little

1078
00:54:08,453 --> 00:54:13,053
Speaker 19: bit of that, and it turned into just a complete disaster.

1079
00:54:13,253 --> 00:54:18,133
Speaker 19: This turned into a crowd crush where ten people died,

1080
00:54:18,173 --> 00:54:23,213
Speaker 19: including a nine year old. Just so this is covering

1081
00:54:23,493 --> 00:54:26,533
Speaker 19: that it's not funny at all. Like five Festival, it

1082
00:54:26,693 --> 00:54:29,533
Speaker 19: was very easy to laugh at that event. When people die,

1083
00:54:29,613 --> 00:54:33,813
Speaker 19: it's a very different experience. So this is quite harrowing

1084
00:54:33,813 --> 00:54:37,293
Speaker 19: in places. They sort of pieced together exactly why it

1085
00:54:37,413 --> 00:54:40,893
Speaker 19: turned into what it did, and they talked to, you know,

1086
00:54:40,973 --> 00:54:43,533
Speaker 19: the security teams that were all hired like the night

1087
00:54:43,613 --> 00:54:46,973
Speaker 19: before and then led in thousands of extra people because

1088
00:54:47,013 --> 00:54:49,933
Speaker 19: the defencing wasn't good enough. They talked to a crowd

1089
00:54:50,053 --> 00:54:54,493
Speaker 19: safety expert who sort of analyzes the stage set up.

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00:54:56,333 --> 00:54:58,573
Speaker 19: They built a stage for thirty five thousand people, and

1091
00:54:58,733 --> 00:55:03,133
Speaker 19: fifty thousand people fifty thousand tickets were sold, plus the

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00:55:03,173 --> 00:55:05,893
Speaker 19: people who jumped the fences, and then they were all

1093
00:55:05,933 --> 00:55:08,693
Speaker 19: coming on from one side, so everyone was getting crushed

1094
00:55:08,733 --> 00:55:11,893
Speaker 19: on one side. So yeah, be very careful with this one.

1095
00:55:12,013 --> 00:55:14,533
Speaker 19: I found it incredibly harrowing to watch. You know, they

1096
00:55:14,613 --> 00:55:18,773
Speaker 19: talk to some of the victims' families. They're obviously still distraught.

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00:55:20,493 --> 00:55:24,453
Speaker 19: They've got text messages from the organizers that show they

1098
00:55:24,573 --> 00:55:27,893
Speaker 19: knew what was happening. And the footage that really got

1099
00:55:27,933 --> 00:55:30,733
Speaker 19: to me actually was when Travis Scott saw this. They

1100
00:55:30,813 --> 00:55:32,973
Speaker 19: never stopped the show, the whole show when he hits planned,

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00:55:32,973 --> 00:55:35,653
Speaker 19: even when people were being pulled out unconscious, and they've

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00:55:35,653 --> 00:55:38,373
Speaker 19: got this footage of him watching someone get pulled out

1103
00:55:38,413 --> 00:55:41,053
Speaker 19: of the mosh pit unconscious, and he stops the show,

1104
00:55:41,213 --> 00:55:43,693
Speaker 19: does the right thing, and then he just carries on.

1105
00:55:43,853 --> 00:55:47,493
Speaker 19: He keeps the performance going, and this was happening all

1106
00:55:47,573 --> 00:55:48,333
Speaker 19: over the venue.

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00:55:48,693 --> 00:55:52,853
Speaker 3: From memory, he sort of had a really strange response.

1108
00:55:52,893 --> 00:55:54,813
Speaker 3: And I know that he's a bit of a controversial artist,

1109
00:55:54,853 --> 00:55:57,533
Speaker 3: but he had a pretty out there response at the time.

1110
00:55:57,653 --> 00:56:00,573
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say so it was totally cold, but it

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00:56:00,693 --> 00:56:04,133
Speaker 3: wasn't the kind of caring response that you'd expect from

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00:56:04,173 --> 00:56:06,773
Speaker 3: most regular human beings, know what I mean?

1113
00:56:07,453 --> 00:56:09,653
Speaker 19: Well, I think I think cold is actually a really

1114
00:56:09,693 --> 00:56:12,413
Speaker 19: good description for how he behaved afterwards. I mean, he

1115
00:56:12,533 --> 00:56:14,773
Speaker 19: was actually here in October last year and I went

1116
00:56:14,853 --> 00:56:17,853
Speaker 19: to that show and it showed he hadn't really learnt

1117
00:56:17,933 --> 00:56:19,933
Speaker 19: a lot. There were a lot of fights at that show.

1118
00:56:20,093 --> 00:56:22,773
Speaker 19: People were actually pulled out of that much but unconscious

1119
00:56:22,813 --> 00:56:24,533
Speaker 19: as well, So uh.

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Speaker 3: Not at not a fun event to attend, Chris, I.

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00:56:29,573 --> 00:56:31,573
Speaker 19: Didn't have I didn't have a good time at that, Jack,

1122
00:56:31,653 --> 00:56:31,893
Speaker 19: that was.

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Speaker 3: It does sound like it sounds like a really interesting documentary,

1124
00:56:36,053 --> 00:56:37,453
Speaker 3: but one, like you say, you probably just want to

1125
00:56:37,453 --> 00:56:39,493
Speaker 3: be careful about when you choose to watch it. It

1126
00:56:39,533 --> 00:56:41,813
Speaker 3: sounds like some really sort of confronting details, isn't it.

1127
00:56:41,893 --> 00:56:45,013
Speaker 3: But that's train Wreck the Astro World Tragedy. So that's

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00:56:45,053 --> 00:56:49,013
Speaker 3: on Netflix. Also on Netflix, American man Hunt, Asama bin Laden.

1129
00:56:49,973 --> 00:56:51,933
Speaker 19: I picked this one just for you, Jack. I think

1130
00:56:52,013 --> 00:56:54,013
Speaker 19: you're going to be very into this. This is the

1131
00:56:54,213 --> 00:56:57,533
Speaker 19: third in the man Hunt series. They've also done the

1132
00:56:57,613 --> 00:57:00,413
Speaker 19: Boston Marathon bomber, and they've done O Jack Simpson, I

1133
00:57:00,493 --> 00:57:02,253
Speaker 19: think this is probably a harder one to tell, just

1134
00:57:02,333 --> 00:57:06,293
Speaker 19: because of the time span and because of the secret

1135
00:57:06,573 --> 00:57:09,573
Speaker 19: around it. Right, everyone remembers, you know, nine to eleven

1136
00:57:10,013 --> 00:57:13,773
Speaker 19: and the ten year hunts that played out from George

1137
00:57:13,813 --> 00:57:18,413
Speaker 19: Bush's presidency into a Barack Obama's and then you know,

1138
00:57:19,653 --> 00:57:22,613
Speaker 19: we didn't know who had gone on these missions for

1139
00:57:22,653 --> 00:57:24,733
Speaker 19: a long time at all was very secret. So the

1140
00:57:24,813 --> 00:57:27,853
Speaker 19: trick here is they've got all this new footage, they've

1141
00:57:27,853 --> 00:57:31,173
Speaker 19: got new details, they've got almost everyone who was there,

1142
00:57:31,293 --> 00:57:33,973
Speaker 19: including some of the Seal Team that raided the house

1143
00:57:34,013 --> 00:57:38,413
Speaker 19: and ended up killing some of them Laden. So this

1144
00:57:38,893 --> 00:57:41,573
Speaker 19: actually plays out more like a Born movie, like a

1145
00:57:41,773 --> 00:57:45,853
Speaker 19: like a spy thriller. It's a three part series full

1146
00:57:45,893 --> 00:57:48,773
Speaker 19: of cliffhangers. It's full of details that I'd either forgotten

1147
00:57:48,813 --> 00:57:54,733
Speaker 19: about or didn't know. It's it's very cleverly told. But

1148
00:57:54,813 --> 00:57:58,613
Speaker 19: the one problem with it is it's very pro American,

1149
00:57:58,893 --> 00:58:02,653
Speaker 19: as you'd expect. I guess it's almost like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1150
00:58:02,773 --> 00:58:04,373
Speaker 19: it's like watching Top Gun, you know, like.

1151
00:58:04,453 --> 00:58:08,133
Speaker 3: It's very sort of whoah, isn't it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

1152
00:58:08,653 --> 00:58:10,613
Speaker 3: I watched it. I watched it because I mean, I

1153
00:58:10,693 --> 00:58:13,293
Speaker 3: find it interesting. And one thing I do find curious though, is,

1154
00:58:13,693 --> 00:58:16,533
Speaker 3: you know, this is is a great example of why

1155
00:58:16,693 --> 00:58:21,253
Speaker 3: you can so often disprove conspiracy theories. Whenever anyone says, oh,

1156
00:58:21,413 --> 00:58:23,493
Speaker 3: you know, the deep state or the governments you know

1157
00:58:23,653 --> 00:58:26,453
Speaker 3: done this or that, I always say, look at a

1158
00:58:26,533 --> 00:58:28,653
Speaker 3: some of Bin Laden, right. He was he was taken

1159
00:58:28,733 --> 00:58:32,413
Speaker 3: out eventually by Seal Team Sex. But the guy who

1160
00:58:32,493 --> 00:58:36,933
Speaker 3: pulled the trigger, despite having signed an NDA, you know,

1161
00:58:37,013 --> 00:58:40,413
Speaker 3: and despite being part of this elite group of soldiers

1162
00:58:40,493 --> 00:58:43,613
Speaker 3: from you know this, this is supposedly elite military force.

1163
00:58:43,973 --> 00:58:47,253
Speaker 3: Within about thirty six hours of killing some of bin Laden,

1164
00:58:47,293 --> 00:58:48,533
Speaker 3: he'd already signed a book deal.

1165
00:58:48,773 --> 00:58:48,933
Speaker 7: You know.

1166
00:58:50,173 --> 00:58:52,093
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know what, if there is a conspiracy theory,

1167
00:58:52,133 --> 00:58:54,213
Speaker 3: they're probably not going to keep it secret. You know,

1168
00:58:54,653 --> 00:58:56,653
Speaker 3: if you can't keep something like that secret and they're

1169
00:58:56,653 --> 00:58:58,613
Speaker 3: going to be series made about it on Netflix, then

1170
00:58:58,653 --> 00:59:01,253
Speaker 3: you know you can probably disprove that conspiracy.

1171
00:59:01,453 --> 00:59:02,253
Speaker 12: Well there's that.

1172
00:59:02,413 --> 00:59:03,973
Speaker 19: I think all of the people on this, they've got

1173
00:59:04,013 --> 00:59:07,173
Speaker 19: all the CIA operators as well, and to them don't

1174
00:59:07,253 --> 00:59:09,013
Speaker 19: have their face blur. There's one or two that do,

1175
00:59:09,253 --> 00:59:11,293
Speaker 19: but I think they all do want their moment, and

1176
00:59:11,453 --> 00:59:13,613
Speaker 19: so this is probably the biggest thing they ever got

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00:59:13,653 --> 00:59:16,573
Speaker 19: to work on. And the network documentary gets from the

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00:59:16,613 --> 00:59:20,453
Speaker 19: biggest audience, so you can see why they would do it.

1179
00:59:21,173 --> 00:59:23,373
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's American man Hunt a Sam Bladon and

1180
00:59:23,533 --> 00:59:26,093
Speaker 3: very quickly tell us about Underdogs on Disney Plus.

1181
00:59:26,893 --> 00:59:29,573
Speaker 19: Well, I thought this was a kid's film, you know,

1182
00:59:29,653 --> 00:59:32,213
Speaker 19: it's a nature documentary. We've been looking for a replacement

1183
00:59:32,333 --> 00:59:35,453
Speaker 19: for David Attenborough for a long time. Morgan Freeman had

1184
00:59:35,493 --> 00:59:37,453
Speaker 19: a bit of a go I think Scarlet Johnson's done

1185
00:59:37,453 --> 00:59:39,733
Speaker 19: one or two as well, and it hasn't really worked.

1186
00:59:40,733 --> 00:59:44,213
Speaker 19: This is Ryan Reynolds narracing a nature documentary. But this

1187
00:59:44,333 --> 00:59:47,853
Speaker 19: is unlike any nature documentary I've ever seen. It's rated m.

1188
00:59:49,053 --> 00:59:51,093
Speaker 19: If you're wondering whether or not it's few, just watch

1189
00:59:51,213 --> 00:59:55,493
Speaker 19: the first minutes where the blur guy, the guy who

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00:59:55,533 --> 00:59:58,653
Speaker 19: has to blur out details normally of things like on

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00:59:59,373 --> 01:00:01,653
Speaker 19: the reality shows you were mentioning at the start. There

1192
01:00:02,933 --> 01:00:05,093
Speaker 19: has to do a lot of work for animals. So

1193
01:00:05,333 --> 01:00:09,493
Speaker 19: this is about the stuff David Attenburron never showed you

1194
01:00:09,613 --> 01:00:12,653
Speaker 19: the route, Yeah, yeah, yeah, And then it's got Ryan

1195
01:00:12,693 --> 01:00:14,973
Speaker 19: Reynolds and a racing over the top. The one interesting

1196
01:00:15,013 --> 01:00:17,853
Speaker 19: thing is New Zealand features on this. They got footage

1197
01:00:17,973 --> 01:00:21,413
Speaker 19: of the White time O Cave glowworms, apparently for the

1198
01:00:21,493 --> 01:00:23,253
Speaker 19: first time. I don't know if that's true or not,

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Speaker 19: but the footage is incredible. But if you want an

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01:00:27,093 --> 01:00:32,053
Speaker 19: example of the tone, he describes the golow worms as

1201
01:00:32,213 --> 01:00:33,653
Speaker 19: making snot chandeliers.

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Speaker 3: So whether that we're at yes, can imagine, can imagine

1203
01:00:39,933 --> 01:00:42,533
Speaker 3: Ryan Reynolds doing that, probably can't imagine today that And

1204
01:00:42,573 --> 01:00:44,253
Speaker 3: we're doing that, so it sounds like a bit of

1205
01:00:44,293 --> 01:00:46,933
Speaker 3: Fun and something Different, So that's Underdogs that's on Disney

1206
01:00:46,973 --> 01:00:50,133
Speaker 3: plus American man Hunt, Something Bin Laden and train Wreck

1207
01:00:50,213 --> 01:00:52,973
Speaker 3: The Astro World Tragedy of the documentaries that are streaming

1208
01:00:53,133 --> 01:00:55,973
Speaker 3: on Netflix and all the details for those will be

1209
01:00:56,053 --> 01:00:58,493
Speaker 3: up on the newstalks 'DB website. Thanks so much, Chris,

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01:00:58,613 --> 01:01:00,733
Speaker 3: we'll catch again soon. It's just gone ten thirty on

1211
01:01:00,813 --> 01:01:01,693
Speaker 3: newstalks 'B.

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekend and started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack

1213
01:01:09,053 --> 01:01:10,573
Speaker 1: Team on News Talks.

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Speaker 20: B Whiti, White White White, Rangy whitey White.

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Speaker 3: This song should come with a warning, right, It's gonna

1216
01:01:33,773 --> 01:01:37,493
Speaker 3: be stuck in ahead all day. That's the Nine Stars

1217
01:01:37,533 --> 01:01:40,613
Speaker 3: of Matai to the tune of the Makarena. Of course,

1218
01:01:40,733 --> 01:01:42,733
Speaker 3: the stars really had to align for that one to

1219
01:01:42,813 --> 01:01:45,293
Speaker 3: fit so well, So we just thought we would mix

1220
01:01:45,373 --> 01:01:47,453
Speaker 3: things up a little bit this week on News Talks.

1221
01:01:47,493 --> 01:01:50,653
Speaker 3: He'd be since it is a special and distinctly New

1222
01:01:50,773 --> 01:01:55,413
Speaker 3: Zealand holiday, given it's Mataiki. Our music expert Stelle cliff

1223
01:01:55,453 --> 01:01:59,333
Speaker 3: That has compiled a playlist of her top song picks

1224
01:01:59,373 --> 01:02:02,613
Speaker 3: for the Maturiki weekend. This was an obvious contender. I

1225
01:02:02,773 --> 01:02:04,773
Speaker 3: don't know if we put this first or last in

1226
01:02:04,853 --> 01:02:07,013
Speaker 3: the playlist, because if you put it first, then it's

1227
01:02:07,053 --> 01:02:08,933
Speaker 3: probably gonna be stuck on your head for the next

1228
01:02:08,973 --> 01:02:11,213
Speaker 3: three songs, but if you put it last, it's going

1229
01:02:11,293 --> 01:02:12,773
Speaker 3: to be stuck in your head for the next three days.

1230
01:02:12,893 --> 01:02:15,213
Speaker 3: So I reckon early is the option for that one.

1231
01:02:15,373 --> 01:02:16,533
Speaker 3: And so that was going to give us the full

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01:02:16,573 --> 01:02:19,293
Speaker 3: low down and run us through her list before midday today.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your feedback. I have had

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01:02:21,573 --> 01:02:25,813
Speaker 3: so many messages this morning regarding traveling with kids, Jack.

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01:02:26,013 --> 01:02:27,933
Speaker 3: I love it. I love traveling and sitting next to

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01:02:27,973 --> 01:02:29,853
Speaker 3: people who are traveling with young children. I tried and

1237
01:02:29,893 --> 01:02:31,733
Speaker 3: help them out wherever I can give the parents a

1238
01:02:31,773 --> 01:02:34,653
Speaker 3: bit of a break. There's just something special about connecting

1239
01:02:34,693 --> 01:02:37,213
Speaker 3: with young children. Susie, you flip me a note to say, Jack,

1240
01:02:37,253 --> 01:02:39,253
Speaker 3: I was on a flight from Los Angeles to New Zealand.

1241
01:02:39,533 --> 01:02:43,293
Speaker 3: The flight landed and then I noticed a mum with

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Speaker 3: two eight month old twins, just a couple of seats

1243
01:02:46,893 --> 01:02:48,893
Speaker 3: ahead of us. We didn't even know they were on

1244
01:02:48,973 --> 01:02:52,893
Speaker 3: the plane, they were so quiet. That's incredible, says Susie. Yeah, Suzie,

1245
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Speaker 3: that does sound incredible. Tell you what the eight months

1246
01:02:55,573 --> 01:02:58,733
Speaker 3: you're flirting with disaster? There eight month is probably okay,

1247
01:02:59,213 --> 01:03:03,093
Speaker 3: but I reckon that the moment that children can move independently,

1248
01:03:03,373 --> 01:03:06,133
Speaker 3: you're in trouble. So the moment they start crawling or

1249
01:03:06,213 --> 01:03:08,853
Speaker 3: water walking and want to do nothing but crawl or walk,

1250
01:03:09,213 --> 01:03:11,693
Speaker 3: apparently that is when you're in trouble. It's stressful enough

1251
01:03:11,733 --> 01:03:13,573
Speaker 3: traveling with a baby, but when they can move, when

1252
01:03:13,573 --> 01:03:15,653
Speaker 3: they're at the toddler stage, then things go to another

1253
01:03:15,773 --> 01:03:18,293
Speaker 3: level entirely ninety two ninety two. If you want to

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01:03:18,333 --> 01:03:21,093
Speaker 3: see this a message. This morning, before eleven o'clock, our

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Speaker 3: man in the garden Rude Climb Pass is counting down

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01:03:23,853 --> 01:03:26,893
Speaker 3: to winter. When it officially ticks over this afternoon, I

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01:03:26,933 --> 01:03:29,173
Speaker 3: think it's like two forty one pm or something like that.

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01:03:29,333 --> 01:03:31,653
Speaker 3: Route will have the exact time for us, But anyway,

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Speaker 3: he's making sure the birds in his garden are getting

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01:03:34,253 --> 01:03:36,853
Speaker 3: plenty of kai at this cold time of year, so

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Speaker 3: he's going to share a few tips with us. Twenty

1262
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Speaker 3: four to eleven on News Dog, Z'DB putting.

1263
01:03:42,373 --> 01:03:46,213
Speaker 1: The tough questions to the newspeakers the mic, asking breakfast some.

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Speaker 7: Of the blockage in the public systems.

1265
01:03:47,653 --> 01:03:49,693
Speaker 21: Do things look like they're going past four o'clock in

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01:03:49,693 --> 01:03:51,893
Speaker 21: the afternoon a procedures put off for another day. Doctor

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Speaker 21: Richard Sullivan is the chief Clinical Officer at Health New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: And football terms that does occur.

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Speaker 21: We had the Health Minister and also said rightly wrongly

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Speaker 21: it's the way the unions have stitched this up.

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Speaker 7: Is that true?

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01:04:01,733 --> 01:04:04,133
Speaker 22: Yes, So we have to line our schedules with our

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01:04:04,133 --> 01:04:05,053
Speaker 22: employment agreements.

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01:04:05,373 --> 01:04:07,053
Speaker 7: Why are you doing operation so date at night?

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Speaker 22: I'm with you.

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01:04:08,293 --> 01:04:10,333
Speaker 7: I had night though outside of emergency.

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Speaker 21: I'm talking about regular scheduled elective operations an the twenty

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Speaker 21: four seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we don't run there's twenty four seven parts

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Speaker 2: of it. It's about employment green books. Also part of that,

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Speaker 2: it's about looking up jail workforce.

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Speaker 21: Back Monday from six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 21: Maybe's Real Estate News Talk zb twenty one.

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Speaker 3: To eleven Non News Talk ZEDBC. I said that below

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Speaker 3: Deck is one of those shows that you think, oh,

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Speaker 3: it's just too trashy, I'm never going to watch it,

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Speaker 3: and then you watch one episode and you completely hooked.

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Speaker 3: What did I say? It was like maths or like

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Speaker 3: the Real Housewives GWS. Flip me a note to say

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Speaker 3: Jack married at first sight? Pathetic? I said, I'm not

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Speaker 3: going to watch this time. Then I watched one episode

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Speaker 3: was absolutely hooked and I'm old, says g W. Oh,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter how old you want, GW. That's how

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Speaker 3: they design those shows. They are just ridiculously addictive. For

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Speaker 3: some reason. I think it's just I think your brain

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Speaker 3: is less active watching those shows than if you're sleeping.

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Speaker 6: You know, like.

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Speaker 3: It's like absolute zombie mode if you're watching those shows.

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Speaker 3: Ninety two ninety two. If you want to send us

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Speaker 3: a message, out expert is here with details on a

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Speaker 3: big change coming to one of the world's most popular

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Speaker 3: social media platforms. Meta is changing the way that you

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Speaker 3: log into your account. All Stenhouse is our text, but

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Speaker 3: he's got the details. Cal DePaul.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, it's about changing Jack, I think, and more about

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Speaker 23: adding I would say, because that adding something called past

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Speaker 23: key support, And you're thinking, what on earth is a

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Speaker 23: past key? And there's a really good reason why you

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Speaker 23: should care about this, And it's because it is significantly

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Speaker 23: stronger and more secure than a password. Why right, It's

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Speaker 23: because if I try to explain to you a password,

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Speaker 23: what you do is you just basically over the internet,

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Speaker 23: when you go to a website, you just yell out

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Speaker 23: what you use the name and your password is right.

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Speaker 23: It doesn't check whether or not it is a legitimate

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Speaker 23: website a fake website.

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Speaker 24: You just you're like, here's my.

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Speaker 23: User name, here's my password. Try it, and it tries it,

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Speaker 23: and if it gets it right, you get in.

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Speaker 5: It's wrong, you don't.

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Speaker 23: The problem is is if you do go to like

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Speaker 23: a malicious website and you put your credentials and they

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Speaker 23: then have your real credentials, So that is a real problem.

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Speaker 23: Passwords can be stolen, they can be guessed, they can

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Speaker 23: be leaked. So what is better than that, Well, that's

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Speaker 23: this past key thing, right, and more and more websites

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Speaker 23: and apps are starting to roll out these past keys,

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Speaker 23: and for good reason, because it is way more sophisticated.

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Speaker 23: Why because think of it more like a handshake, and

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Speaker 23: you verified both parties before you actually hand over that information.

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Speaker 23: So a past key, instead of you giving the information,

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Speaker 23: it first gives you and your device some information that

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Speaker 23: says I am Facebook or I am the herold website,

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Speaker 23: for example, and your password manager then goes, okay, cool,

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Speaker 23: I know who you are. I've got a credential that

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Speaker 23: we've already exchanged in the past. When you signed up,

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Speaker 23: I'm going to give you an encrypted special version of

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Speaker 23: that back and hey Christo, that means that you can

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Speaker 23: log in. And it means that if anyone was to

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Speaker 23: get into your password manager and see this list of

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Speaker 23: gobble you go, they can do a whole lot with it.

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Speaker 23: And if you go to a fake website, your pass

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Speaker 23: key isn't going to actually activate because it's not the

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Speaker 23: real website and that special handshake hasn't taken place.

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Speaker 3: And so do you have to memorize a code or

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Speaker 3: a password? You will with a regular password, no.

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Speaker 23: So what you do so it relies on your device biometrics, right,

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Speaker 23: So that means that it gets stored on your device,

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Speaker 23: it gets stored in your password manager. So as long

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Speaker 23: as you can get into that thing, you're good. So

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Speaker 23: if it's your iPhone or you're Android, it might be

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Speaker 23: your face or your fingerprint. If it's a computer, it

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Speaker 23: may be a password. But once you're into that and

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Speaker 23: it can do the handshaky bit, you're good. You don't

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Speaker 23: have to remember because it's long. It's really long.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean that makes a lot of sense. Actually,

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Speaker 3: I've got one I think that I use at the moment,

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Speaker 3: I think you neuws Yellen's got a pass key, and

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Speaker 3: I found it a little bit confusing at first, like

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Speaker 3: a distinguishing between a pass code and a pass key

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Speaker 3: or a password and a pass key. But that makes sense,

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Speaker 3: and anything obviously that makes our different accounts more secure

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Speaker 3: has got to be valuable. Hey, speaking of Facebook, metas A,

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Speaker 3: the company that owns Facebook is teaming up with Oakley,

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Speaker 3: the sunglasses designers, for a new collab.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, they collabing on their smart glasses. They really want

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Speaker 23: these to be a thing.

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Speaker 14: They are not going anywhere.

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Speaker 23: They have put out five new styles with Oakley, and

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Speaker 23: I guess they try to appeal to more people with

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Speaker 23: some new designs and they've got some new flash specs

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Speaker 23: to jack. These glasses have a three K front facing camera,

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Speaker 23: so you can record video in three K. That's nuts.

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Speaker 23: It's got speakers that kind of sit over your ear

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Speaker 23: in a microphone built into it, so if you are

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Speaker 23: connected to your phone and it's got Internet, you can

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Speaker 23: listen to music without putting headphones and it just kind

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Speaker 23: of plays it above your ear. It's kind of cool. Actually,

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Speaker 23: you can do phone calls, you can even ask meta

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Speaker 23: AI questions but it is a bit spooky that it

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Speaker 23: records such high quality straight from the front of the camera.

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Speaker 14: We leave you look.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, especially when other people might not realize.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, like you are you going to take your

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Speaker 23: Are you going to take your glasses off when you

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Speaker 23: go into a changing room or something?

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Speaker 3: I hope so you know, yeah, well, oh yeah, I

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Speaker 3: hadn't even thought of that. Yeah, that's a very good point. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a it's gonna be interesting, right because

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Speaker 3: a lot of the big, you know, a big big

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Speaker 3: tech companies sort of think that the smartphones have been

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Speaker 3: iterated to their endpoint or something equivalent to our end points.

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Speaker 3: The smartphones can't really improve in their current format as

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Speaker 3: they are, so they're looking for the next device, and

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Speaker 3: a lot of them are putting big bets on wearaballs

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Speaker 3: like glasses as being the kind of new smartphone. So

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Speaker 3: in ten years time, instead of texting away, will all

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Speaker 3: be using our eyes and voices to control things through

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Speaker 3: our hopleys. Well, we'll see hey, thanks so much, Paul,

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Speaker 3: catch you again soon our textbot Paul's Steenhouse sixteen to

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Speaker 3: eleven on news Talks.

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Speaker 5: He'd be a little bit of way to kick off

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Speaker 5: your weekends.

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Speaker 3: Thirteen two eleven, Non New stig zeb You were Jack

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Speaker 3: Tame and Master Somliot Cameron Douglas, who's just returned from

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Speaker 3: the Decanta World Wine Awards. These are the big Kahunas.

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Speaker 3: These are the big world Wine Awards in New Zealand. Unsurprisingly,

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Speaker 3: I suppose in a sense did relatively well. But here

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Speaker 3: to put it into context for us, Cameron has the

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Speaker 3: details of twenty six golds for New Zealand wines. How

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Speaker 3: do we shape up?

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Speaker 23: Though?

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Speaker 15: We shaped up remarkably well. And it really is a

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Speaker 15: feather in our cap to say that a New Zealand

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Speaker 15: pen and wy are topped the best in the world

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Speaker 15: in twenty twenty five. Craggie Range and you know, nipping

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Speaker 15: at its heels with another producer from down in central

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Speaker 15: Ottagaway called MacArthur Ridge, and they do a wine called

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Speaker 15: Southern Tour and those two wines both got platinum and

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Speaker 15: then one got upgraded to beston Show for Craigi Range Pan.

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Speaker 15: It's just remarkable and even our sparkling wines, you know,

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Speaker 15: number one family estate and Mida Mido bade it so well,

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Speaker 15: very very proud of our wine making companies in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that's fantastic. Oh yeah, I mean I'm getting

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Speaker 3: upgraded to Best in Show for the Cragie range in particular.

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Speaker 3: Is an amazing achievements. Now you've got a wine pick

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Speaker 3: for us this weekend. So of celebrating the Matadiki weekend,

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Speaker 3: You've chosen a ticky single vineyard Pinogree. It's a twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four vintage from North Canterbury for twenty three dollars.

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Speaker 3: So what do you like about this?

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Speaker 15: Well, it's a super food friendly example. It's a crisp,

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Speaker 15: dry style of Peno Gree and it has the breen pear, apples, citrus,

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Speaker 15: a little bit of Quint's combination on the nose and

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Speaker 15: the palette. And what that does is it gives this

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Speaker 15: nice contrast to any fair that you might be preparing

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Speaker 15: for dinner. And I'm suggesting something like if you're in

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Speaker 15: the mood for something homey like that, whether you prepare

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Speaker 15: that yourself and the or you buy something it's great

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Speaker 15: with kermita and pork belly and if you're not into that,

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Speaker 15: then salmon, a little bit of lemon, and even vegetarians

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Speaker 15: can have something like a cashwut toasted tofu burger with

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Speaker 15: beetroot and cheese. You know, it really is a versatile,

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Speaker 15: great variety, and it sort.

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Speaker 3: Of offsets that richness that's what you're suggesting, right, because

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Speaker 3: those are quite rich foods generally.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, the best food and wine pairings really come from

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Speaker 15: understanding contrasts that you're not trying to compete with food

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Speaker 15: intensity and richness and flavor that you're trying to contrast it.

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Speaker 15: And this is where that sicky pinogree comes in quite

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Speaker 15: nicely because it offers that core fruit contrast to richness

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Speaker 15: of food, and of course acidity and things like phanolics

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Speaker 15: and textures and mouth feel all have a role to play,

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Speaker 15: but it really is that fruit contrast that we're looking for.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh fantastic. Okay, So Cameron's back for us this

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Speaker 3: week a tiki single vinyd pen agree Are twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: four vintage from North Canterbury. Will have the details for

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Speaker 3: that on the News Talks EDB website. And glad that

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Speaker 3: the Decanted world Wide Awards were so successful, Cameron. I

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Speaker 3: know you play a big role there, but still good

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Speaker 3: to be home.

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Speaker 15: It's always good to come home to New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: A terra. Just love it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh very good. Hey, thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: We'll catch again very soon. Master Samlier Cameron Douglas with

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Speaker 3: his pick for this week. Now after eleven o'clock on Newstalks,

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Speaker 3: edbur clinical psychologist Doogle Sutherland has got his hands on

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Speaker 3: this fascinating new study he wants to share with us.

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Speaker 3: It's a meta analysis, so you know, one of those

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Speaker 3: studies that goes and looks at all sorts of different

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Speaker 3: studies over the years and compares their results, and it's

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Speaker 3: into the impacts of screen time on children. Now, in

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Speaker 3: drawing these study results to our attention, Google's been really

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Speaker 3: deliberate and pointing out that he's kind of on the fence.

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Speaker 3: He's not one of these people who automatically she's our

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Speaker 3: screen time is the worst thing ever. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: the more time your kid's been on the computer, they're

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Speaker 3: going to have four eyes and all that kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: But he's going to run us through what are some

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Speaker 3: really really interesting and quite robust resort of the study.

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Speaker 3: When he joins us after eleven o'clock this morning. We're

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Speaker 3: in the garden. Next though it's nine to eleven. You're

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Speaker 3: a deactaim on newstalks.

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Speaker 1: E'd be guarding with steel sharp one hundred bucks of

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Speaker 1: free accessories on selected chainsaws.

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Speaker 3: Now man in the gardener's rude climb passes counting down

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Speaker 3: to an important date this afternoon two forty one pm.

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Speaker 3: I was right, rude, that is when we are officially

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Speaker 3: in winter.

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Speaker 12: You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 15: Do you always tell me the same thing?

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Speaker 7: I love it?

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Speaker 12: The only thing that changes the excell time of the day.

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Speaker 3: Yes, well, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true. I

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Speaker 3: wonder what you're saying there. Yeah, yeah, no, that makes

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Speaker 3: that makes total sense. So what are you doing in

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Speaker 3: your garden to prepare.

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Speaker 12: Well at the moment, I'm training birds, I'm getting I'm

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Speaker 12: feeding birds in our garden to get back to our

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Speaker 12: garden on a regular basis. That really is the idea.

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Speaker 12: And so what I'm doing, for instance, is getting a

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Speaker 12: lot of silver ice coming with in our garden with

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Speaker 12: light blocks and things like that, meatballs, necktar bottles and

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01:15:09,053 --> 01:15:11,453
Speaker 12: cut open fruit that July sort of hangs up and

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01:15:11,613 --> 01:15:14,653
Speaker 12: puts everywhere and in no time you have like sixty

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Speaker 12: or so of these birds coming on a regular basis

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Speaker 12: to your garden, and that is nice, but it also

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01:15:21,973 --> 01:15:24,253
Speaker 12: means that they start to understand that this is the

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Speaker 12: place where you get food day, night, winter, summer. And

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Speaker 12: that's what it's about. Because I found out that these

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Speaker 12: little silver ice they are absolutely brilliant at going in

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Speaker 12: the summertime into my roses and into my fruit and

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Speaker 12: they basically catch all the insects that do damage.

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Speaker 3: Oh good, So okay, I thought you were going to

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01:15:45,293 --> 01:15:47,933
Speaker 3: say they destroyed your roses or they ate your fruit,

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01:15:47,973 --> 01:15:48,933
Speaker 3: but actually they're helping.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they helping.

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Speaker 12: They are natural pest controllers, these guys, mealy bugs and

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Speaker 12: scale insects, a fits, all these things, and that means

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Speaker 12: that I don't have to spray them or do anything

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Speaker 12: about them. It's yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: So here's my darima, because obviously I've had my I've

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Speaker 3: had my bird feeder out for some time now, and

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Speaker 3: I've basically just got a little neck to feeder. I

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Speaker 3: put some sugar water in the air. The silver riders

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Speaker 3: got absolutely crazy over it. They love it, love it.

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Speaker 3: But I reckon they are observably quite pudgy. And now,

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Speaker 3: of course I've had to go away for a couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks and so i'm a little bit I've been

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Speaker 3: trying to wean them off things quite so much. So

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Speaker 3: I've actually been been, you know, going down from it

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01:16:28,133 --> 01:16:30,733
Speaker 3: every day filling to every two days to every three days,

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01:16:30,853 --> 01:16:33,093
Speaker 3: just so they're not one hundred percent dependent on my

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Speaker 3: feed or is that an issue.

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Speaker 12: It's not an issue. Check because they will know six

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Speaker 12: months later where you live. Ah, right, okay, So they

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01:16:43,573 --> 01:16:46,093
Speaker 12: will always come and check, and once they found something

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01:16:46,133 --> 01:16:49,493
Speaker 12: that is a really good food, they'll go and they

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Speaker 12: get the whole family across and it's simply as that.

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Speaker 12: So that's how that works. At the same time, of course,

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Speaker 12: I put missnets up for catching the birds with Eduary

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Speaker 12: and my twelve year old grandson and we banned them.

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Speaker 12: So yesterday we did something like twenty twenty five six

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Speaker 12: birds not individually banned, so we know who's yeah, yeah,

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01:17:12,733 --> 01:17:15,493
Speaker 12: and we see those also. This is our way. I know,

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01:17:15,973 --> 01:17:19,053
Speaker 12: we see the same birds back again in spring and

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Speaker 12: summer when we need them for their first control duties.

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Speaker 3: Oh how good, Hey, it's funny you're doing this at

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01:17:24,733 --> 01:17:26,693
Speaker 3: this time of year. I'm probably telling you something you

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01:17:26,733 --> 01:17:28,933
Speaker 3: already know, rue, but maybe I can teach you something

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01:17:28,973 --> 01:17:31,293
Speaker 3: for a change. So do you know what the Mardi

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01:17:31,333 --> 01:17:32,213
Speaker 3: word for silver ryers?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, tohoh yeah, Toho and toho And there's just a

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01:17:39,573 --> 01:17:42,573
Speaker 4: one letter difference with this time of year, Martadiki is

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01:17:42,613 --> 01:17:45,333
Speaker 4: of course to to ho maudi the Mardi.

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Speaker 3: New Yeah, and you get you're observing the toho at

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Speaker 3: Toho yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: And the reason they are to toeh because they suddenly

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Speaker 12: arrived in eighteen thirty when they flew across from Australia.

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Speaker 12: This is a brand new import if you like, it's

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Speaker 12: only one hundred and sixty years old.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: We want to make them feel as welcome as possible.

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Speaker 3: Thank you sir.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I I love having the bird feed around at this

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Speaker 3: time of year. We'll catch you every soon route climb

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Speaker 3: passed in the garden. It is just coming up to

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Speaker 3: the eleven o'clock news You were Jack Tame Saturday morning.

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Speaker 25: This is News Talks dB Saturday Mornings with Jack Taine

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Speaker 25: keeping the conversation going through the weekend with bpure dot

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Speaker 25: cot dot is here for high quality supplements used TALKSB.

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Speaker 3: More into manawata mataiki that sort of means happy matariki

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Speaker 3: wiki injectame with you on News Talks dB this morning

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Speaker 3: through the midday. You know how every sporting code in

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Speaker 3: the world is in the fight of its life for

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Speaker 3: iballs at the moment. I've just come to the conclusion

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Speaker 3: that less is more and there is perhaps no better

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Speaker 3: example than that of that than the FIFA Club World Cup.

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Speaker 3: So if you haven't been following it, basically they get

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Speaker 3: all of these club teams that have won different confederations

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Speaker 3: from around the world. They all get together and have

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Speaker 3: a kind of World Cup style competition. There's heaps and

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Speaker 3: heaps of prize money on the line, but it really

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Speaker 3: has not engaged many football fans, and in a sense

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Speaker 3: it's kind of weird because you've got these really big teams,

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Speaker 3: the likes of the Boca Juniors from Argentina, Ben Ficer,

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Speaker 3: the likes of Bayern Munich, all competing with one another,

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Speaker 3: and yet I don't know, it just feels a bit

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Speaker 3: yeah meh, especially at the end of a long football

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Speaker 3: season for many of these clubs, fans aren't actually crying

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Speaker 3: out for more action, And you know, it's been a

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Speaker 3: bit of a tough watch, even as a New Zealand

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Speaker 3: football fan watching Auckland City FC getting absolutely thumped in

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Speaker 3: their first couple of games. They lost six nil to

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Speaker 3: Benfica ten nil in their first game of the tournament.

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Speaker 3: You know, in one sense, I think it's amazing for

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Speaker 3: the players, like how good to be able to be

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Speaker 3: an amateur player playing for a club like Auckland CITYFC

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Speaker 3: and go to big international event where there are tens

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Speaker 3: of millions of dollars on the line and get to

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Speaker 3: play against international superstars. But I think there is very

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Speaker 3: good reason why the stadiums in this tournament so far

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Speaker 3: have been so empty, And I reckon if you're looking

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Speaker 3: for good examples of sports where they've worked out that

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Speaker 3: actually less is more when it comes to the bottom line.

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Speaker 3: There's no better example than the NFL in the US,

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Speaker 3: Like they have a really restricted season, so it sort

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Speaker 3: of feels like every single game in that season is

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Speaker 3: a big occasion and they market it like it's a

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Speaker 3: massive occasion. I'm just not sure that going with the

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Speaker 3: more is more option, certainly for a game like football,

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Speaker 3: which already has dozens of games for top players every year,

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Speaker 3: is going to be a winning strategy anyway, let us

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Speaker 3: know your thoughts. Ninety two ninety two is the text

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Speaker 3: number Jacket News Talk ZB dot co dot NZ. Right

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Speaker 3: now it's nine minutes past eleven check two before midday

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Speaker 3: on news Talks, he'd be We're gonna share with you

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Speaker 3: a mutaticky playlist our music reviewer thoughts you'd do things

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Speaker 3: a little bit differently to celebrate the long weekend, So

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Speaker 3: looking forward to hearing some of her topics for that.

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Speaker 3: Right now, though, it's time to catch up with clinical

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Speaker 3: psychologist Dourgle Sutherland from Umbrella Well Being Counderdogle.

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Speaker 2: You order, Jack, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm very well, thank you, and really looking forward to

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Speaker 3: the study that you're going to share with us this morning.

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Speaker 3: You've got a bit of research that's a meta analysis,

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Speaker 3: so a study that has compared the results of more

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Speaker 3: than one hundred different studies around the world looking at

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Speaker 3: the effect of screen time on kids. So talk us

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Speaker 3: through it.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, absolutely so, and yeah, the meta analyses are always

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Speaker 16: sort of I think, really useful because there's a summaries

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Speaker 16: of all the results and then often they're reanalyzing all

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01:21:55,853 --> 01:21:59,173
Speaker 16: the statistics and all the data. So yeah, as you said,

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Speaker 16: this is a longitudinal study. So often with screen time,

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Speaker 16: you're sort of having a snapshot in time, which doesn't

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Speaker 16: really allow you to think about cause and effects. So

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Speaker 16: this is one hundred and seventeen studies, I think, which

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Speaker 16: total of about three hundred thousand children and looking at

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Speaker 16: the effects on their behavior and socializing when they're online,

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01:22:23,253 --> 01:22:25,893
Speaker 16: and important to say, it's not they didn't look at

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01:22:26,013 --> 01:22:30,213
Speaker 16: social media. The kids here was zero to ten, so

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01:22:30,293 --> 01:22:32,333
Speaker 16: they were looking at social media, so it doesn't really

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01:22:32,333 --> 01:22:37,853
Speaker 16: add to that debate. But they found basically that there

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01:22:37,973 --> 01:22:43,813
Speaker 16: was this sort of this reciprocal relationship. So kids who

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Speaker 16: had more social difficulties and more difficulties controlling their behavior

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01:22:49,333 --> 01:22:57,013
Speaker 16: spent more time online or sorry on screens, and that

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01:22:57,333 --> 01:23:01,413
Speaker 16: in its in turn made those behavior and social difficulties

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Speaker 16: worse for them.

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Speaker 8: And that was particularly so.

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01:23:05,133 --> 01:23:06,933
Speaker 3: For online gaming.

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01:23:07,973 --> 01:23:10,653
Speaker 16: So the more time, so kids who are kids who

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01:23:10,653 --> 01:23:14,373
Speaker 16: are already struggling tended to spend more time online gaming,

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01:23:14,493 --> 01:23:17,333
Speaker 16: and kids who are spending more time online gaming tended

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01:23:17,373 --> 01:23:20,453
Speaker 16: to have that tended to contribute to make their social

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Speaker 16: and behavior of difficulties worse.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, is that right? Is that a kind of causation?

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Speaker 3: Can you make that causational link there or is it

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01:23:32,013 --> 01:23:34,613
Speaker 3: where some people say, yeah, it's kind of chicken in

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Speaker 3: the egg.

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01:23:35,853 --> 01:23:38,733
Speaker 16: Yeah, look no, no, So the way they've done the

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Speaker 16: data analysis and it's very it's a long paper of

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Speaker 16: massive amount of statistics which blow my mind at times.

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Speaker 16: But yes, they're really they're thinking that because they're looking

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Speaker 16: at a whole bunch of the longitudinal studies who are

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Speaker 16: all finding the same relationship that they think there is

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Speaker 16: a sort of a causal relationship, but affect it's both ways, right,

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Speaker 16: So it seems to be that rather one theory is

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Speaker 16: rather than well, kids with social and emotional dificulties, rather

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Speaker 16: than using something like talking to their parents or working

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01:24:10,973 --> 01:24:13,573
Speaker 16: out those problems, they tend to use gaming.

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Speaker 3: To work that out, or not even to work it out,

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01:24:15,893 --> 01:24:16,453
Speaker 3: but they tend to.

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01:24:18,093 --> 01:24:21,733
Speaker 16: Go online and game, and that in turn makes their

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01:24:21,773 --> 01:24:27,053
Speaker 16: social difficulties worse, possibly because they're not using other strategies

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01:24:27,213 --> 01:24:29,613
Speaker 16: like talking to their parents or you know, or working

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01:24:29,693 --> 01:24:33,613
Speaker 16: out the problem, so they're using it more, and by

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01:24:33,733 --> 01:24:35,533
Speaker 16: using it more, it makes the problems worse, if that

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01:24:35,613 --> 01:24:36,013
Speaker 16: makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, are there any positives that come from increase

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01:24:40,333 --> 01:24:42,253
Speaker 3: screen time or increase gaming time?

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Speaker 16: Look, some gaming can be useful in terms of, you know,

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Speaker 16: that sense of competence that you're good at something you

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01:24:52,413 --> 01:24:57,093
Speaker 16: know and winning and learning you know and learning different skills,

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01:24:57,133 --> 01:25:03,653
Speaker 16: so it's not necessarily all bad. But yeah, the result

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01:25:03,853 --> 01:25:07,293
Speaker 16: was worse for boys too. Worse boys and worst the

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Speaker 16: kids who are in that sort of six to ten

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Speaker 16: year age group rather than preschoolers.

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Speaker 3: And maybe because it's maybe because.

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Speaker 16: Boys are gaming more, that might be that might be

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01:25:17,493 --> 01:25:21,133
Speaker 16: a thing also too for those for those older kids,

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01:25:21,493 --> 01:25:24,453
Speaker 16: and we're just talking to six to ten, maybe because

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01:25:24,533 --> 01:25:27,813
Speaker 16: once they're at school they have less and less relationship

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01:25:28,293 --> 01:25:30,213
Speaker 16: with their or less time with their parents, and maybe

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Speaker 16: a preschooler does, and then their spare time on online gaming,

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Speaker 16: then that is, you know, they're even less time with

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Speaker 16: their parents, so you kind of lose the protective factor

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01:25:41,573 --> 01:25:42,253
Speaker 16: of your parents.

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01:25:43,573 --> 01:25:44,453
Speaker 7: So yeah, it's right.

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01:25:44,613 --> 01:25:46,933
Speaker 3: So having the parents there is a real is a

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01:25:47,413 --> 01:25:49,013
Speaker 3: positive essentially. Yeah.

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01:25:49,293 --> 01:25:51,613
Speaker 16: Yeah, and parents should take heart from the fact that

1707
01:25:52,173 --> 01:25:56,133
Speaker 16: there seems to be only positive results or at least

1708
01:25:56,173 --> 01:26:00,053
Speaker 16: no negative ones from parents jointly viewing things with their

1709
01:26:00,173 --> 01:26:02,773
Speaker 16: kids on the screen. So that sort of co viewing

1710
01:26:02,853 --> 01:26:05,813
Speaker 16: stuff is really as it seems to be quite helpful

1711
01:26:05,853 --> 01:26:10,173
Speaker 16: and quite new useful for kids. So something in that

1712
01:26:10,333 --> 01:26:13,613
Speaker 16: interaction with parents is really helpful. Also, the other thing

1713
01:26:13,853 --> 01:26:17,373
Speaker 16: about the study was that they found no relationship with

1714
01:26:17,613 --> 01:26:20,453
Speaker 16: violence of the violent video games. You know, people are

1715
01:26:20,453 --> 01:26:23,453
Speaker 16: probably automatically thinking, oh, it's because the games of violence,

1716
01:26:23,493 --> 01:26:25,093
Speaker 16: and you know, they're killing each other and that's why

1717
01:26:25,173 --> 01:26:28,133
Speaker 16: they make bad social No, they didn't find anything about that.

1718
01:26:28,333 --> 01:26:30,613
Speaker 16: So it didn't really matter the type of game, whether

1719
01:26:30,653 --> 01:26:32,733
Speaker 16: it was a violent game or not a violent game,

1720
01:26:33,373 --> 01:26:35,133
Speaker 16: still the same effect. So I wasn't to do with

1721
01:26:35,213 --> 01:26:36,933
Speaker 16: that sort of a It seems to be more the

1722
01:26:37,053 --> 01:26:40,213
Speaker 16: fact that you're using it instead of using other strategies

1723
01:26:40,253 --> 01:26:41,853
Speaker 16: to work out your problems, if that makes.

1724
01:26:41,893 --> 01:26:42,413
Speaker 9: Yeah, right.

1725
01:26:42,893 --> 01:26:46,933
Speaker 3: See, we we have tried to be relatively controlled and

1726
01:26:47,053 --> 01:26:49,533
Speaker 3: how much screen time you hate year old gets and

1727
01:26:50,773 --> 01:26:52,693
Speaker 3: he doesn't have an iPad or a phone or anything

1728
01:26:52,813 --> 01:26:56,013
Speaker 3: like that. However, we do let him play one game

1729
01:26:56,213 --> 01:26:58,453
Speaker 3: on the iPad and it's sort of not built up

1730
01:26:58,493 --> 01:27:00,653
Speaker 3: as a massive special treat but it is a little

1731
01:27:00,693 --> 01:27:03,893
Speaker 3: bit treaty. But it's a game that teaches him to read.

1732
01:27:05,013 --> 01:27:08,453
Speaker 3: It's called reading It. Yeah, yeah, And because he he

1733
01:27:10,013 --> 01:27:12,293
Speaker 3: speaks Mardi and so he knows how to read Mardi,

1734
01:27:12,373 --> 01:27:15,093
Speaker 3: but reading English is quite difficult because it turns out

1735
01:27:15,133 --> 01:27:17,773
Speaker 3: we have things like silent k's that aren't easy when

1736
01:27:17,773 --> 01:27:21,493
Speaker 3: you're learning to read. And it's really good for repetition

1737
01:27:21,613 --> 01:27:23,533
Speaker 3: and that kind of thing. It's sort of gamifiers learning.

1738
01:27:23,573 --> 01:27:25,453
Speaker 3: And I would have thought that something like that screen

1739
01:27:25,493 --> 01:27:28,653
Speaker 3: time perspective is really is benefit, you know.

1740
01:27:29,333 --> 01:27:32,453
Speaker 16: Yeah, and also it sounds like you are aware of

1741
01:27:32,653 --> 01:27:35,413
Speaker 16: the content of what he's watching, and I think that's

1742
01:27:35,453 --> 01:27:38,093
Speaker 16: a yeah, crucial thing. And this outcome is that actually

1743
01:27:38,733 --> 01:27:41,693
Speaker 16: really important for parents not only to monitor the amount

1744
01:27:41,733 --> 01:27:44,013
Speaker 16: of screen time that their kids are having.

1745
01:27:43,853 --> 01:27:45,813
Speaker 13: But also what are they doing on it.

1746
01:27:47,613 --> 01:27:50,493
Speaker 16: And you know, you know, you're obviously familiar with what

1747
01:27:51,213 --> 01:27:53,333
Speaker 16: your eight year old is doing, so you know, so

1748
01:27:53,653 --> 01:27:56,493
Speaker 16: you know the content. And I think that's hugely important.

1749
01:27:57,413 --> 01:27:59,493
Speaker 16: And look, my heart goes out to parents.

1750
01:27:59,613 --> 01:27:59,773
Speaker 2: Now.

1751
01:27:59,853 --> 01:28:03,173
Speaker 16: You know, my oldest is twenty four, so he you know,

1752
01:28:03,293 --> 01:28:06,733
Speaker 16: when he was growing up, there wasn't quite the same

1753
01:28:06,813 --> 01:28:10,293
Speaker 16: pressure around screens, but now that they're everywhere and so easy,

1754
01:28:12,293 --> 01:28:15,133
Speaker 16: and parents, it's a real struggle for parents. And and

1755
01:28:15,653 --> 01:28:17,293
Speaker 16: but you know, we have to get used to it's great,

1756
01:28:17,693 --> 01:28:19,493
Speaker 16: or we have to figure out how to deal with

1757
01:28:19,573 --> 01:28:22,853
Speaker 16: it because they're not going anywhere. Then it doesn't look

1758
01:28:22,893 --> 01:28:25,093
Speaker 16: like it's going to stop existing. So we've we better

1759
01:28:25,173 --> 01:28:26,533
Speaker 16: figure out how to do it better.

1760
01:28:28,293 --> 01:28:30,893
Speaker 3: Saying no, absolutely not living a sort of you know,

1761
01:28:31,093 --> 01:28:32,933
Speaker 3: armiss existence probably isn't an option.

1762
01:28:33,613 --> 01:28:34,213
Speaker 17: I know.

1763
01:28:34,413 --> 01:28:35,413
Speaker 13: I don't think so either.

1764
01:28:35,493 --> 01:28:38,293
Speaker 16: I think we if we do that, we lose you know,

1765
01:28:38,453 --> 01:28:41,893
Speaker 16: we lose the ability for kids to learn as they.

1766
01:28:41,853 --> 01:28:43,573
Speaker 8: Grow up and figure out how to do it.

1767
01:28:43,653 --> 01:28:47,413
Speaker 16: I think I think prohibition is probably I understand why

1768
01:28:47,453 --> 01:28:49,453
Speaker 16: you want to band stuff. It makes there's a sort

1769
01:28:49,453 --> 01:28:52,853
Speaker 16: of a common sense element, but actually I think it's

1770
01:28:52,973 --> 01:28:56,173
Speaker 16: just putting your heads in the sand, really, and so

1771
01:28:56,733 --> 01:28:59,053
Speaker 16: it's more I think important for parents to figure out

1772
01:28:59,133 --> 01:29:01,413
Speaker 16: how they can do this with their kids rather than

1773
01:29:01,533 --> 01:29:03,133
Speaker 16: just say Nope, you're not going to use it, because

1774
01:29:03,293 --> 01:29:05,333
Speaker 16: I doubt if that's going to work in the long key.

1775
01:29:06,373 --> 01:29:08,213
Speaker 3: I love your work, Turgle, thank you so much, Really

1776
01:29:08,253 --> 01:29:10,773
Speaker 3: appreciate that. And that is a fascinating outcome. I'm probably

1777
01:29:10,773 --> 01:29:13,013
Speaker 3: a relatively predictable outcome if you'd ask me. But I

1778
01:29:13,053 --> 01:29:15,493
Speaker 3: think nonetheless, to have a study, a meta study that

1779
01:29:15,573 --> 01:29:17,653
Speaker 3: goes into all of these different analyzes and gets a

1780
01:29:17,693 --> 01:29:21,373
Speaker 3: big picture is so useful Google subtland from Umbrella Wellbeing, Jack,

1781
01:29:21,453 --> 01:29:24,053
Speaker 3: The Big World Cup, the FIFA Club World Cup just

1782
01:29:24,093 --> 01:29:26,053
Speaker 3: seems like a new scheme to bring in more cash

1783
01:29:26,613 --> 01:29:29,813
Speaker 3: for FIFA. They sold the broadcasting rights for a ridiculous money.

1784
01:29:29,853 --> 01:29:32,333
Speaker 3: It's just a shame that they're not playing the amateur

1785
01:29:32,413 --> 01:29:36,133
Speaker 3: players from Auckland CITYFC. Yeah, I mean, given the salaries

1786
01:29:36,133 --> 01:29:38,133
Speaker 3: that some of the other club players will be earning,

1787
01:29:38,173 --> 01:29:42,493
Speaker 3: the likes of Harry Kane, etc. Jack says Leon. In

1788
01:29:42,613 --> 01:29:46,853
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, the NFL dominated American TV viewing numbers.

1789
01:29:46,893 --> 01:29:50,093
Speaker 3: The top ten rated shows were all American football games,

1790
01:29:50,413 --> 01:29:52,813
Speaker 3: led by the Super Bowl, of course, So you're one

1791
01:29:52,893 --> 01:29:55,173
Speaker 3: hundred percent right and that less is more and Robin

1792
01:29:55,213 --> 01:29:57,373
Speaker 3: says Jack. I feel the same way about too much

1793
01:29:57,413 --> 01:29:59,253
Speaker 3: sport when it comes to T twenty cricket. But I

1794
01:29:59,253 --> 01:30:01,173
Speaker 3: guess that's the way of the world right now. I

1795
01:30:01,333 --> 01:30:05,013
Speaker 3: just think that that sports risk their kind of long

1796
01:30:05,213 --> 01:30:09,253
Speaker 3: term appeal if they completely drown us with too much competition.

1797
01:30:09,853 --> 01:30:12,813
Speaker 3: Like scarcity is there is value in scarcity, right if

1798
01:30:12,853 --> 01:30:15,093
Speaker 3: you can kind of develop a little bit of scarcity

1799
01:30:15,173 --> 01:30:18,853
Speaker 3: make people want something that much more. I reckon there's

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01:30:18,853 --> 01:30:21,293
Speaker 3: a long term value that perhaps isn't there when they're

1801
01:30:21,293 --> 01:30:24,333
Speaker 3: constantly drowning in different competitions. But thank you for that.

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01:30:24,453 --> 01:30:25,973
Speaker 3: Ninety two ninety two. If you want to send us

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Speaker 3: a message and a couple of minutes on New Storks,

1804
01:30:27,813 --> 01:30:30,093
Speaker 3: the'd be our travel correspondent is going to tell us

1805
01:30:30,093 --> 01:30:34,013
Speaker 3: about staying on Santa Cruz Island in the Galapagus Islands

1806
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Speaker 3: Our travel correspondent is Mikeyardley. He's here with us this

1826
01:31:47,893 --> 01:31:51,213
Speaker 3: morning and before we turn our attention to the Galapagus Islands, Mike,

1827
01:31:51,653 --> 01:31:54,093
Speaker 3: you've got tickets for this evening. How are you feeling

1828
01:31:54,413 --> 01:31:56,413
Speaker 3: this winter morning in Christy?

1829
01:31:57,133 --> 01:32:00,773
Speaker 22: It's certainly winter Jack, Yes, I'm feeling confident that the

1830
01:32:00,893 --> 01:32:04,373
Speaker 22: weather will favor us. That he does not favoring us,

1831
01:32:04,453 --> 01:32:07,293
Speaker 22: but my heart will window day Jack. So the Crusaders

1832
01:32:07,333 --> 01:32:10,813
Speaker 22: to win twenty eight to twenty five, it's okay. I

1833
01:32:10,973 --> 01:32:11,173
Speaker 22: like that.

1834
01:32:11,293 --> 01:32:14,093
Speaker 3: I feel like that's a that's yeah. I would go

1835
01:32:14,173 --> 01:32:15,493
Speaker 3: with you. I would go with a heart over the

1836
01:32:15,573 --> 01:32:18,573
Speaker 3: head slightly. But I don't know if the head necessarily

1837
01:32:18,813 --> 01:32:22,013
Speaker 3: says the Crusaders aren't the favorites here. I mean, they've

1838
01:32:22,053 --> 01:32:25,453
Speaker 3: obviously got an impeccable playoff record when it comes to

1839
01:32:25,533 --> 01:32:29,653
Speaker 3: Super rugby, but you know, to Mighty Williams's back, that's

1840
01:32:29,653 --> 01:32:32,453
Speaker 3: going to be in our favor The Chiefs. Yeah, they

1841
01:32:32,773 --> 01:32:34,533
Speaker 3: folded a little bit against the Blues a couple of

1842
01:32:34,573 --> 01:32:37,173
Speaker 3: weeks ago, and that Super Rugby semi so you know

1843
01:32:37,253 --> 01:32:40,293
Speaker 3: there is or Super Rugby playoffs, so you know, but

1844
01:32:40,653 --> 01:32:42,293
Speaker 3: my gosh, it's going to be a thrilling match tonight.

1845
01:32:42,413 --> 01:32:45,733
Speaker 3: So in the last match in that stadium for Crusaders fans,

1846
01:32:45,773 --> 01:32:48,093
Speaker 3: which I'm sure everyone will be pleased about regardless of

1847
01:32:48,133 --> 01:32:48,533
Speaker 3: the result.

1848
01:32:48,933 --> 01:32:51,253
Speaker 22: Yeah, that's I went to the opening game back in

1849
01:32:51,333 --> 01:32:53,733
Speaker 22: twenty twelve, never knowing it would take so long to

1850
01:32:53,733 --> 01:32:54,893
Speaker 22: get a permanent stadium.

1851
01:32:54,973 --> 01:32:59,053
Speaker 3: So you're like, we'll be here for two years, Max, Yeah, yeah, exactly.

1852
01:32:59,053 --> 01:33:01,053
Speaker 22: So it'll be great to be there for the big closer.

1853
01:33:01,253 --> 01:33:02,053
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah.

1854
01:33:02,213 --> 01:33:04,413
Speaker 3: Okay, So last week, if anyone hasn't heard it, they

1855
01:33:04,453 --> 01:33:06,253
Speaker 3: should go and see your article at news talks heb

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01:33:06,653 --> 01:33:09,293
Speaker 3: co dot nz Ford slash travel. You told us all

1857
01:33:09,293 --> 01:33:12,133
Speaker 3: about cruising around the Galapagus Islands, but this week you're

1858
01:33:12,173 --> 01:33:16,093
Speaker 3: telling us about your experience staying on the islands themselves

1859
01:33:16,173 --> 01:33:19,293
Speaker 3: on Santa Cruz Island. So what would you say is

1860
01:33:19,373 --> 01:33:21,733
Speaker 3: best of the two options, a cruise or a land

1861
01:33:21,853 --> 01:33:22,693
Speaker 3: based stay.

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01:33:22,813 --> 01:33:25,413
Speaker 22: Yeah, it's a great question, Jack, I'd say do both

1863
01:33:25,533 --> 01:33:28,333
Speaker 22: mix and match it because with the cruise you get

1864
01:33:28,453 --> 01:33:33,533
Speaker 22: that unplugged dreamscape experience, very wild. You know, very few

1865
01:33:33,613 --> 01:33:36,653
Speaker 22: people with an island stay, you get a we dip

1866
01:33:36,853 --> 01:33:39,613
Speaker 22: with the soul of living on the Galapagus. And there's

1867
01:33:39,653 --> 01:33:42,413
Speaker 22: only thirty thousand people that live on those islands, so

1868
01:33:42,493 --> 01:33:47,533
Speaker 22: it's very tightly controlled and you're just mixing with the locals,

1869
01:33:47,573 --> 01:33:51,773
Speaker 22: eating that sabulous seafood they have. That's really special. I

1870
01:33:51,853 --> 01:33:55,453
Speaker 22: would say definitely Santa Cruz Island because it's close to

1871
01:33:55,573 --> 01:33:56,093
Speaker 22: the airport.

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01:33:56,453 --> 01:33:57,413
Speaker 6: There's a stack of.

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01:33:57,493 --> 01:34:01,053
Speaker 22: Excursions you can do on the island, and with my cruise,

1874
01:34:01,093 --> 01:34:04,053
Speaker 22: which was with Weaver Expeditions, it was very easy to

1875
01:34:04,173 --> 01:34:07,373
Speaker 22: transfer from the cruise for a land based stay, you know,

1876
01:34:07,573 --> 01:34:08,733
Speaker 22: just very stressfully.

1877
01:34:09,573 --> 01:34:11,853
Speaker 3: Yeah. Nice, Okay, that sounds like a really good fit.

1878
01:34:11,933 --> 01:34:14,813
Speaker 3: And what is distinctive about the port town on Santa

1879
01:34:14,853 --> 01:34:16,533
Speaker 3: Cruz Island Puentu Aora.

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01:34:17,453 --> 01:34:22,133
Speaker 22: It's really eye catching, a beautiful, colorful waterfront town. It's

1881
01:34:22,173 --> 01:34:25,653
Speaker 22: got the tourist trappings, got accommodation to suit all budgets,

1882
01:34:26,093 --> 01:34:29,133
Speaker 22: and it's all strung around the esplanade or the melli

1883
01:34:29,253 --> 01:34:32,493
Speaker 22: con as they call it. Of course in the Galapagus,

1884
01:34:32,533 --> 01:34:36,213
Speaker 22: but For all of the alluring creature comforts, what really

1885
01:34:36,253 --> 01:34:41,213
Speaker 22: struck me Jack, nature still holds court. So you've got

1886
01:34:41,373 --> 01:34:44,693
Speaker 22: marina guanas piling up on top of each other around

1887
01:34:44,733 --> 01:34:49,013
Speaker 22: the harbor front sneezing out excess salt, which is quite

1888
01:34:49,053 --> 01:34:52,773
Speaker 22: a clever little trick. And I loved watching the sea

1889
01:34:52,853 --> 01:34:56,213
Speaker 22: lions just al the ebulging bodies up onto the beach.

1890
01:34:56,373 --> 01:35:00,333
Speaker 22: They commandeer the park benches, they hijack the picnic tables

1891
01:35:00,413 --> 01:35:03,373
Speaker 22: for a spot of sunbathing they clearly have right away,

1892
01:35:03,453 --> 01:35:05,373
Speaker 22: and the locals love it that way.

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01:35:05,813 --> 01:35:10,173
Speaker 3: In puet a Yorder, Yeah, oh, that's fantastic. Times of

1894
01:35:10,253 --> 01:35:12,093
Speaker 3: the Charles Darwin Research Station.

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01:35:11,973 --> 01:35:13,253
Speaker 12: Right, yeah, it is.

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01:35:13,293 --> 01:35:14,973
Speaker 22: So if you want to first hand primer on the

1897
01:35:15,053 --> 01:35:17,173
Speaker 22: theory of evolution, this is the place to go. It's

1898
01:35:17,253 --> 01:35:21,773
Speaker 22: like this living lab, the biggest bio research center in

1899
01:35:21,813 --> 01:35:23,933
Speaker 22: the island. It's ok to sixty five years of these

1900
01:35:24,093 --> 01:35:27,533
Speaker 22: hundreds of scientists who work there, and they play such

1901
01:35:27,573 --> 01:35:32,053
Speaker 22: a critical conservation role. They monitor invasive species like the

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01:35:32,293 --> 01:35:36,053
Speaker 22: ghastly vampire fly, which I did have a couple of

1903
01:35:36,133 --> 01:35:39,653
Speaker 22: clothes encounters with. These things do suck the blood out

1904
01:35:39,693 --> 01:35:44,413
Speaker 22: of you, big flight. I was also structureck by the

1905
01:35:44,853 --> 01:35:50,453
Speaker 22: similarities to New Zealand. New Zealand's predator control missions. They've

1906
01:35:50,493 --> 01:35:53,693
Speaker 22: had all manner of animals introduced on the Galapagus that

1907
01:35:53,773 --> 01:35:57,933
Speaker 22: went faral, like goats and pigs and dogs and cats.

1908
01:35:58,693 --> 01:36:01,733
Speaker 22: So they're working really hard to send all of those

1909
01:36:01,773 --> 01:36:02,773
Speaker 22: animals packing too.

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01:36:03,573 --> 01:36:08,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, Okay. How successful is the tortoise breeding program?

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01:36:08,773 --> 01:36:12,133
Speaker 22: It is a water It is globally acclaimed because it's

1912
01:36:12,293 --> 01:36:17,933
Speaker 22: just been so prodigious. To date, over seven thousand giant

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Speaker 22: tortoises have been released from that station successfully rewild across

1914
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Speaker 22: the islands, and one of their most famous breeders was

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Speaker 22: a tortoise called Diego. He signed nine hundred offspring Jack

1916
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Speaker 22: being retired too well indead, maybe not as wealthy, but

1917
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Speaker 22: he reached the age of about one hundred and five,

1918
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Speaker 22: I believe, before he was allowed to retire to Espaniola,

1919
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Speaker 22: so he's still kicking about. I walked all around the

1920
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Speaker 22: breeding enclosures, and it's so called because you'll see all

1921
01:36:52,813 --> 01:36:55,253
Speaker 22: the babies in the nursery and then you'll see the

1922
01:36:55,293 --> 01:36:59,453
Speaker 22: adults canoogling right in front of you. So I think

1923
01:36:59,533 --> 01:37:02,653
Speaker 22: at last count the Galapicus tortoise population is now at

1924
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Speaker 22: about twenty five thousand, so it has been saved from

1925
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Speaker 22: extern right.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's so good. So, speaking of existential problems for

1927
01:37:12,213 --> 01:37:16,213
Speaker 3: Canny big As Island tortoises, did Charles Darwin eat tortoise meat?

1928
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Speaker 2: Yes?

1929
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Speaker 22: Yes, Most historical accounts believed Darwin and his crowl and

1930
01:37:21,973 --> 01:37:27,733
Speaker 22: HMS Bigel consumed about thirty tortoises, and in fact there

1931
01:37:27,853 --> 01:37:31,013
Speaker 22: is a reference in one of Darwin's diaries how he

1932
01:37:31,133 --> 01:37:36,253
Speaker 22: notes that the flesh had a particularly delicious buttery taste

1933
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Speaker 22: and texture. So shockingly, it's estimated mariners ate about two

1934
01:37:42,013 --> 01:37:47,093
Speaker 22: hundred thousand giant tortoises which walk into the edge of extinction. Yeah,

1935
01:37:47,893 --> 01:37:50,773
Speaker 22: it would have typically taken According to my guide, six

1936
01:37:51,013 --> 01:37:54,173
Speaker 22: men would have been needed to carry a giant tortoise

1937
01:37:54,213 --> 01:37:55,733
Speaker 22: onto a ship, and they had to tie it up

1938
01:37:55,773 --> 01:37:57,813
Speaker 22: with rope and attach it to poles. It was a

1939
01:37:57,893 --> 01:38:01,893
Speaker 22: hell of an effort. Darwin also took some juvenile tortoises

1940
01:38:02,053 --> 01:38:05,653
Speaker 22: home alive to England, and one of them was believed

1941
01:38:05,693 --> 01:38:07,853
Speaker 22: to be how and a lot of Kiwis will have

1942
01:38:07,933 --> 01:38:10,973
Speaker 22: seen Harriet. She lived out her last twenty years at

1943
01:38:10,973 --> 01:38:14,813
Speaker 22: Australia Zoo and died at the age of one hundred

1944
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Speaker 22: and seventy five.

1945
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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, that's amazing, aid, isn't it.

1946
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Speaker 3: I think, what does this tortoise live through? Yeah, that's amazing. Okay,

1947
01:38:24,293 --> 01:38:27,053
Speaker 3: So beyond the research station, where is the sort of

1948
01:38:27,093 --> 01:38:29,253
Speaker 3: best place for FaceTime with the giant tortoises.

1949
01:38:30,093 --> 01:38:34,693
Speaker 22: My runaway highlight from the Galapagos was going up to

1950
01:38:34,773 --> 01:38:38,613
Speaker 22: the highlands of Santa Cruz and there's some a number

1951
01:38:38,653 --> 01:38:41,813
Speaker 22: of nature reserves up in the highlands joining the national Park.

1952
01:38:41,973 --> 01:38:45,573
Speaker 22: And this is where you will be transfected by the

1953
01:38:45,653 --> 01:38:48,893
Speaker 22: size of these giants. Because it's the highlands, they've got

1954
01:38:48,933 --> 01:38:51,453
Speaker 22: a lot more to wet, a lot more foliage. And

1955
01:38:51,493 --> 01:38:54,933
Speaker 22: when I went into this nature reserve called Rancho Promissias,

1956
01:38:55,373 --> 01:39:00,533
Speaker 22: it was like entering Jurassic Park. These guys were supersized,

1957
01:39:00,773 --> 01:39:04,493
Speaker 22: fully grown giant tortoises and from a distance they look

1958
01:39:04,653 --> 01:39:09,573
Speaker 22: like colossal boulders with the dark domes just scattered them

1959
01:39:09,613 --> 01:39:13,093
Speaker 22: in the meadow, and then you just walk with them gently.

1960
01:39:13,293 --> 01:39:15,453
Speaker 22: It's just the most extraordinary experience.

1961
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Speaker 3: And what impressed you most about them they.

1962
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Speaker 22: Are mammoth, but's so mellow, or two hundred and fifty

1963
01:39:23,493 --> 01:39:27,013
Speaker 22: kilograms of them and when one of these big daddy

1964
01:39:27,093 --> 01:39:31,573
Speaker 22: tortoises stretched out his wizened old face in front of me,

1965
01:39:31,693 --> 01:39:37,693
Speaker 22: it became readily apparent what inspired Steven Spielberg's creation of

1966
01:39:37,933 --> 01:39:44,333
Speaker 22: et that's the faith they had such limited agility. Every

1967
01:39:44,573 --> 01:39:50,293
Speaker 22: movement Jack seems exhaustingly slow and deliberate. But what really

1968
01:39:50,373 --> 01:39:53,613
Speaker 22: blew my hair back about these ancient creatures. The giant

1969
01:39:53,693 --> 01:39:59,133
Speaker 22: Galapicus tortoise can survive, but up to a year without

1970
01:39:59,253 --> 01:40:01,333
Speaker 22: food or water. Isn't that remarkable?

1971
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Speaker 3: Gosh, that's amazing, isn't it. It is like it's like

1972
01:40:05,413 --> 01:40:09,453
Speaker 3: time affects them differently in every seat. Say, yeah, it's

1973
01:40:09,533 --> 01:40:13,173
Speaker 3: like that. Whatever our kind of measure of time is,

1974
01:40:13,933 --> 01:40:17,333
Speaker 3: they're on a different kind of scale altogether. Yeah, what

1975
01:40:17,453 --> 01:40:20,053
Speaker 3: a remarkable experience. Make you know how envs I am?

1976
01:40:20,093 --> 01:40:23,173
Speaker 3: But that does sound amazing, So thank you, and hey,

1977
01:40:23,213 --> 01:40:25,893
Speaker 3: good luck tonight. It was speaking of envy. My goodness.

1978
01:40:26,453 --> 01:40:28,413
Speaker 3: I will be thinking of you at seven oh five,

1979
01:40:28,853 --> 01:40:32,733
Speaker 3: when the Crusaders hopefully record their upteenth Super Rugby title.

1980
01:40:33,213 --> 01:40:35,413
Speaker 3: Mike Yardley is our travel correspondent. For all of his

1981
01:40:35,533 --> 01:40:38,533
Speaker 3: tips on walking with the giants on Santa Cruz Island,

1982
01:40:38,613 --> 01:40:40,333
Speaker 3: you can find his piece on the Newstalks. He'd be

1983
01:40:40,373 --> 01:40:44,013
Speaker 3: website Newstalks, he'db dot co, dot MZ, Forward slash Lifestyle,

1984
01:40:44,173 --> 01:40:46,493
Speaker 3: Forward slash Travel or just go to our show page.

1985
01:40:46,773 --> 01:40:49,613
Speaker 3: That's where we put everything from the show. It has

1986
01:40:49,773 --> 01:40:51,093
Speaker 3: just gone eleven.

1987
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Speaker 5: Thirty, Getting your weekends started.

1988
01:40:56,693 --> 01:41:00,293
Speaker 1: It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team on NEWSTALKSB.

1989
01:41:19,693 --> 01:41:23,253
Speaker 3: That is Carturehe by Anna Connington. That is one of

1990
01:41:23,293 --> 01:41:26,213
Speaker 3: the songs that our music reviewer Stelle Clifford has chosen

1991
01:41:26,293 --> 01:41:29,413
Speaker 3: for her Muturicky playlist this weekend. It's a bit of

1992
01:41:29,453 --> 01:41:31,333
Speaker 3: a catchy one, that one. So we're going to share

1993
01:41:31,693 --> 01:41:33,733
Speaker 3: some more of her picks when she joins us in

1994
01:41:33,773 --> 01:41:35,853
Speaker 3: a few minutes time. Right now though twenty five to

1995
01:41:36,413 --> 01:41:39,573
Speaker 3: twelve on News Talks d B. Behind the Mic this afternoon,

1996
01:41:39,653 --> 01:41:42,373
Speaker 3: counting down to the Super Rugby Final twenty twenty five,

1997
01:41:42,493 --> 01:41:44,453
Speaker 3: Jason Pine is going to be a live for us

1998
01:41:44,693 --> 01:41:47,373
Speaker 3: in my hometown. The three Christ Church is at rock

1999
01:41:47,413 --> 01:41:51,813
Speaker 3: Pool this afternoon as Crusaders fans and Chiefs fans descend

2000
01:41:51,973 --> 01:41:55,093
Speaker 3: on the Garden City morning a Piney, Hello there, Jack, Yes,

2001
01:41:55,173 --> 01:41:57,333
Speaker 3: I can tell you more Chiefs fans around.

2002
01:41:57,453 --> 01:42:00,093
Speaker 26: I have to say them Crusaders fans, although although Crusaders

2003
01:42:00,093 --> 01:42:02,173
Speaker 26: fans do live here so they don't necessarily have to

2004
01:42:02,253 --> 01:42:04,133
Speaker 26: come out, so they were as Chiefs fans who are

2005
01:42:04,173 --> 01:42:06,093
Speaker 26: visiting are coming out for breakfast and a bit of

2006
01:42:06,093 --> 01:42:08,373
Speaker 26: a w or around. Beautiful day in the Garden City

2007
01:42:08,613 --> 01:42:12,573
Speaker 26: that won't surprise you are not going to get particularly warm.

2008
01:42:12,813 --> 01:42:14,853
Speaker 26: But I think conditions once we get to kick off

2009
01:42:14,853 --> 01:42:16,653
Speaker 26: at seven o'clock and I will be close to perfect.

2010
01:42:17,053 --> 01:42:18,933
Speaker 26: Look what a game, Jack, I mean if you didn't

2011
01:42:18,933 --> 01:42:20,413
Speaker 26: have any skin of it, like I don't. I don't

2012
01:42:20,413 --> 01:42:22,253
Speaker 26: have a I don't have any allegiance to either of

2013
01:42:22,333 --> 01:42:24,373
Speaker 26: these sites. I honestly can't pick it. I think it's

2014
01:42:24,413 --> 01:42:24,933
Speaker 26: a coin flip.

2015
01:42:26,293 --> 01:42:28,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like the sort of game that we're

2016
01:42:28,053 --> 01:42:29,333
Speaker 3: going to wait for the result and then all the

2017
01:42:29,413 --> 01:42:31,133
Speaker 3: arm cheeks that's going to come out and justify it.

2018
01:42:31,173 --> 01:42:34,213
Speaker 3: Afterwards you're going to be saying, you know, Williams made

2019
01:42:34,253 --> 01:42:36,293
Speaker 3: all the difference or are they going to be like, oh, well,

2020
01:42:36,333 --> 01:42:38,453
Speaker 3: you know, the Chiefs were stronger all season, and sure

2021
01:42:38,493 --> 01:42:40,173
Speaker 3: there's a wee blip in the playoffs, but they were

2022
01:42:40,373 --> 01:42:43,093
Speaker 3: you know, they beat the Crusaders by sixteen points last time.

2023
01:42:43,173 --> 01:42:45,213
Speaker 3: The we're here, you know it's going to be so

2024
01:42:45,333 --> 01:42:48,053
Speaker 3: hard to pick. But yeah, I mean, there are just

2025
01:42:48,133 --> 01:42:49,893
Speaker 3: so many things to be excited about. I mean, I'm

2026
01:42:49,933 --> 01:42:54,653
Speaker 3: thrilled that Tomighty Williams is back, although like a little

2027
01:42:54,733 --> 01:42:57,013
Speaker 3: I'd be lying if I said I felt like one

2028
01:42:57,133 --> 01:42:59,693
Speaker 3: hundred percent confidence in his medical status. Not that I

2029
01:42:59,813 --> 01:43:01,893
Speaker 3: know anything. I've got no inside running there, but I just,

2030
01:43:02,853 --> 01:43:06,213
Speaker 3: you know, have been nervous about his fitness heading into

2031
01:43:06,253 --> 01:43:08,653
Speaker 3: the game, and you know he's been such a force.

2032
01:43:09,573 --> 01:43:12,693
Speaker 26: I guess, yeah, I guess, yeah, Yeah, I mean, I

2033
01:43:12,773 --> 01:43:15,333
Speaker 26: guess if he doesn't hold up, then George Bauer is

2034
01:43:15,373 --> 01:43:17,773
Speaker 26: not a bad guy comes off the bench, is he?

2035
01:43:18,173 --> 01:43:19,173
Speaker 3: He's not to last?

2036
01:43:20,053 --> 01:43:20,253
Speaker 16: Yeah?

2037
01:43:20,293 --> 01:43:20,573
Speaker 2: Correct?

2038
01:43:20,653 --> 01:43:22,613
Speaker 26: Yeah, And he's played every game George Bauer in a

2039
01:43:22,613 --> 01:43:25,613
Speaker 26: accommodation of starting roles and coming off the bench.

2040
01:43:25,733 --> 01:43:27,133
Speaker 3: So they've got that up there sleeve.

2041
01:43:27,213 --> 01:43:30,533
Speaker 26: But yeah, I think having I mean, they often say,

2042
01:43:30,573 --> 01:43:32,853
Speaker 26: don't they during a regular season if a guy's injured,

2043
01:43:32,893 --> 01:43:35,133
Speaker 26: if it was a final head play, I think that's

2044
01:43:35,173 --> 01:43:36,533
Speaker 26: what the situation is here.

2045
01:43:36,413 --> 01:43:38,373
Speaker 3: With to Mighty Williams. This is a final.

2046
01:43:38,533 --> 01:43:40,933
Speaker 26: He's probably not one hundred, but he wants to play.

2047
01:43:41,013 --> 01:43:42,933
Speaker 26: They want him to play, so he's going to play.

2048
01:43:43,573 --> 01:43:45,493
Speaker 3: Oh, very good. Yeah, so what can we expect on

2049
01:43:45,573 --> 01:43:46,453
Speaker 3: the show this afternoon.

2050
01:43:46,773 --> 01:43:49,653
Speaker 26: It's pretty much all super rugby wall to wall, really

2051
01:43:49,693 --> 01:43:51,893
Speaker 26: get inside both camps. We got Shawn Stevenson on the show,

2052
01:43:51,933 --> 01:43:54,333
Speaker 26: Out of the Chiefs, Noah Hotham, out of the Crusaders,

2053
01:43:54,373 --> 01:43:58,333
Speaker 26: Wallace Satiti's on the show. Crusaders Legend, Ruben Thorn is

2054
01:43:58,373 --> 01:43:59,733
Speaker 26: going to have a chat to us and then after

2055
01:43:59,813 --> 01:44:02,933
Speaker 26: two but of a super rugby CEO, super panel in

2056
01:44:03,013 --> 01:44:06,773
Speaker 26: many ways Jack Jack Mesley, super Rugby Pacific seat and

2057
01:44:07,973 --> 01:44:11,853
Speaker 26: to the two sides CEOs Colin Mansbridge and Simon Graffer.

2058
01:44:11,933 --> 01:44:13,493
Speaker 26: So the three of them going to pop in for

2059
01:44:13,573 --> 01:44:16,333
Speaker 26: a chat after two o'clock. Yes, So really it's all

2060
01:44:16,373 --> 01:44:18,733
Speaker 26: about the game. And I don't know how this has

2061
01:44:18,813 --> 01:44:21,613
Speaker 26: been done, but we have two tickets to the game

2062
01:44:21,733 --> 01:44:24,213
Speaker 26: to give away. Now I thought it was completely sold out.

2063
01:44:24,293 --> 01:44:27,053
Speaker 26: Apparently not. I've got the last two tickets. We can't

2064
01:44:27,093 --> 01:44:28,973
Speaker 26: get people to christ Church, but if they're in the

2065
01:44:29,053 --> 01:44:31,373
Speaker 26: region and can get to the game, then we've got

2066
01:44:31,413 --> 01:44:32,453
Speaker 26: a couple of tickets to give away.

2067
01:44:32,613 --> 01:44:33,813
Speaker 3: You know how we do that after midday?

2068
01:44:33,893 --> 01:44:34,013
Speaker 16: Oh?

2069
01:44:34,133 --> 01:44:36,653
Speaker 3: Super, looking forward to that all right, Hey, thanks funny,

2070
01:44:36,733 --> 01:44:38,733
Speaker 3: look forward to the show. Checking behind them the find

2071
01:44:38,733 --> 01:44:41,733
Speaker 3: folk at the rock Paul say hello, oh very good. Yes, well,

2072
01:44:41,773 --> 01:44:43,293
Speaker 3: and they might have seen me once or twice over

2073
01:44:43,293 --> 01:44:44,813
Speaker 3: the years that it had no further comment on that,

2074
01:44:44,933 --> 01:44:49,333
Speaker 3: of course. Jason Vine will be with us right after

2075
01:44:49,413 --> 01:44:51,733
Speaker 3: the twelve o'clock news counting down to the Super Rugby

2076
01:44:51,813 --> 01:44:54,893
Speaker 3: Final with Weekend Sport. Before midday, we've got that muthodicky

2077
01:44:54,973 --> 01:44:57,093
Speaker 3: playlist your book picks for this weekend. If you're looking

2078
01:44:57,133 --> 01:44:59,213
Speaker 3: for something good to read right now, it's twenty two

2079
01:44:59,253 --> 01:45:00,053
Speaker 3: to twelve.

2080
01:45:00,613 --> 01:45:04,813
Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Team Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

2081
01:45:05,133 --> 01:45:06,053
Speaker 1: powered by News Talk.

2082
01:45:06,093 --> 01:45:09,773
Speaker 3: Said nineteen to twelve on News Talks, he'd be if

2083
01:45:10,093 --> 01:45:12,973
Speaker 3: you've surprised yourself this weekend, a long weekend, an extra

2084
01:45:13,093 --> 01:45:15,653
Speaker 3: day's reading, You've got through your book faster than expected.

2085
01:45:15,893 --> 01:45:18,853
Speaker 3: No stress. Katherine Raine's our book reviewer, is here with

2086
01:45:19,053 --> 01:45:24,093
Speaker 3: two read recommendations for this weekend. Hey Catherine, morning Jack.

2087
01:45:24,853 --> 01:45:27,653
Speaker 3: Let's kick things off this Martataku with the River is

2088
01:45:27,733 --> 01:45:28,933
Speaker 3: waiting by Wally Lamb.

2089
01:45:29,773 --> 01:45:32,653
Speaker 27: So this is set in the spring of twenty seventeen

2090
01:45:33,333 --> 01:45:35,733
Speaker 27: and Corey Labettt is the father of twins, and he's

2091
01:45:35,813 --> 01:45:39,973
Speaker 27: recently lost his job and he's responsible for the toddlers

2092
01:45:40,053 --> 01:45:44,213
Speaker 27: while his wife, Emily is at work, and the marriage

2093
01:45:44,213 --> 01:45:46,933
Speaker 27: to Emily's pretty strained, and the two young two year

2094
01:45:46,973 --> 01:45:49,453
Speaker 27: old twins that they have, Neco and Mazie, and this

2095
01:45:49,733 --> 01:45:51,973
Speaker 27: whole acting as a house husband and child winder since

2096
01:45:51,973 --> 01:45:54,733
Speaker 27: he lost his job has been this really significant blow

2097
01:45:54,813 --> 01:45:57,173
Speaker 27: to his ego. And along with this, he has this

2098
01:45:57,413 --> 01:46:01,533
Speaker 27: growing secret addiction to prescription anxiety and drugs and alcohol

2099
01:46:01,653 --> 01:46:03,853
Speaker 27: just to kind of get him through the day. And

2100
01:46:03,973 --> 01:46:07,813
Speaker 27: then this horrific and heartbreaking tray achas and it rips

2101
01:46:08,053 --> 01:46:11,773
Speaker 27: everyone's world apart, and Krby's responsible for that loss, and

2102
01:46:11,813 --> 01:46:14,853
Speaker 27: he's ends up being sentenced to prison. And in this story,

2103
01:46:14,933 --> 01:46:16,973
Speaker 27: you never really get to hear Emily's point of view.

2104
01:46:17,053 --> 01:46:20,773
Speaker 27: It's all told from Corby's and it's a book about

2105
01:46:20,813 --> 01:46:23,613
Speaker 27: Corby and his story, and he's left to navigate the

2106
01:46:23,653 --> 01:46:26,333
Speaker 27: wreckage and the guilt and the shame of what's happened,

2107
01:46:26,893 --> 01:46:29,133
Speaker 27: and the prison system and life behind bars and the

2108
01:46:29,173 --> 01:46:31,573
Speaker 27: bullying that takes place and the treatment and mental health

2109
01:46:31,653 --> 01:46:35,973
Speaker 27: issues and those floors, and Corby barely survives on the inside,

2110
01:46:36,573 --> 01:46:38,613
Speaker 27: you know, but he also experiences some small acts of

2111
01:46:38,693 --> 01:46:41,053
Speaker 27: kindness and grace and he forms some good relationships with

2112
01:46:42,213 --> 01:46:44,573
Speaker 27: his liberian and a salmate and a young man who

2113
01:46:44,653 --> 01:46:46,533
Speaker 27: wants a role model, and he kind of draw strength

2114
01:46:46,613 --> 01:46:50,573
Speaker 27: from those. And Wially Lamb, the author has this incredible

2115
01:46:50,853 --> 01:46:53,253
Speaker 27: ability to create characters that stay with you a long

2116
01:46:53,373 --> 01:46:56,013
Speaker 27: time after you've finished the story. And he has the

2117
01:46:56,093 --> 01:46:58,413
Speaker 27: ability to show all the people that are flawed and

2118
01:46:58,453 --> 01:47:00,693
Speaker 27: all of their layer the characters, the good, the bad,

2119
01:47:00,733 --> 01:47:03,773
Speaker 27: and the complex, and this brilliant storytelling. And The River

2120
01:47:03,853 --> 01:47:06,333
Speaker 27: Waiting is beautiful and a sad story about how long

2121
01:47:06,373 --> 01:47:07,173
Speaker 27: life can turn.

2122
01:47:07,693 --> 01:47:08,933
Speaker 28: In an absolute.

2123
01:47:08,493 --> 01:47:12,693
Speaker 3: Instance, You're right, okay, sounds really interesting. So The River

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Speaker 3: Is Waiting by Wally Lamb. You've also read The Griffin

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Speaker 3: Sister's Greatest Hits by Jennifer Wyner.

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Speaker 27: So this captures the early two thousands are pop and

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Speaker 27: rock scene really well. The headlines, the body shaming, the

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Speaker 27: fame that's both really intoxicating and incredibly destructive. And the

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Speaker 27: story is told across two timelines. So in the past

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Speaker 27: you meet Zoe who's very charming and determined to determine

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Speaker 27: and she's just got enough talent to join the high

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Speaker 27: school band and dreaming of the spotlight and stardom and

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Speaker 27: his sister. Cassie, on the other hand, would prefer to

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Speaker 27: be out of the spotlight. Her anxiety often gets the

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Speaker 27: better of her. But she has this musical talent that

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Speaker 27: demands attention, and Zoe kind of manipulates her in convincing

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Speaker 27: her to sing in front of this music industry action

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Speaker 27: and they discovered and then you get this rise and

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Speaker 27: epic fall of the Griffin sisters over a year, and

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Speaker 27: then the present time line, which is about twenty years later.

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Speaker 27: You meet Cherry, who Zoe's daughter, and she feels that

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Speaker 27: something's always been missing for her life, and she loves

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Speaker 27: music that she faces this opposition from her mother, who

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Speaker 27: just wants to shut it down at every turn, just

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Speaker 27: tells her that it's not a great place to be.

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Speaker 28: Doesn't want to do that.

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Speaker 27: And now that she's eighteen, she's determined to enter an

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Speaker 27: audition for a big musical discovery reality show and she

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01:48:30,933 --> 01:48:33,893
Speaker 27: needs a mental so she goes to find her aunt, Cassie,

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Speaker 27: and so you get all of this. All of the

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Speaker 27: women in the book have this real determination, but in

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Speaker 27: different ways, and their actions have consequences in the reality

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Speaker 27: of those actions from a long time ago, and it

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Speaker 27: has some heavier themes like women and music, that obsession,

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01:48:47,453 --> 01:48:50,973
Speaker 27: toxic obsession with beauty, body image, and how those pressures

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01:48:51,053 --> 01:48:54,533
Speaker 27: have fractured their lives and the people around them, and

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Speaker 27: all three have to face up to the challenges of

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Speaker 27: their choices. Yeah, it's a really interesting told story and

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Speaker 27: it really does capture that early two thousands kind of

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Speaker 27: culture that was going on in those headlines.

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Speaker 28: So you feel like you're part of that world.

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Speaker 3: Nice, Okay, great little options there for us, Thanks Catherine.

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01:49:09,893 --> 01:49:11,893
Speaker 3: So the first book was The River Is Waiting by

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Speaker 3: Wally Lamb. That one is The Griffins Sister's Greatest Hits

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Speaker 3: by Jennifer Winer. All of the details for those will

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Speaker 3: be on the news Talks EDB website. It's called it

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Speaker 3: a twelve.

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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to

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Speaker 1: us Saturday Mornings with Jack Dame and Bpure dot co

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Speaker 1: dot nz for high quality supplements used talksb.

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Speaker 3: Is Georgia lines. Oh she has such an incredible voice,

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Speaker 3: doesn't she. The song is Wonderful Life and as one

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01:49:54,573 --> 01:49:58,533
Speaker 3: of the songs that features on our Maturikey playlist put

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Speaker 3: together by music reviewer Stelle Clifford, who thought she'd do

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Speaker 3: things a little bit differently for the long weekend.

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Speaker 24: Hey Stelle, oh koda, I think, and what a great

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Speaker 24: to celebrate some of our incredible muso's right and alor

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Speaker 24: and seriously, the list could have gone on for quite

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Speaker 24: some time.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean typically you didn't want to do

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Speaker 3: like a Nature's best, but slightly. I'm nothing against nature's beast.

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Speaker 3: We all appreciate a bit of nature's beast, unless we're

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Speaker 3: like forty five minutes into for a customer service representative

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Speaker 3: to join us. But yeah, this is a this is

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Speaker 3: a kind of it's quite a modern playlist.

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Speaker 28: I think.

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Speaker 24: So I've tried to tried to give you some new stuff.

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01:50:34,973 --> 01:50:36,853
Speaker 24: A Wonderful Life is one of the new singles from

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01:50:36,853 --> 01:50:37,453
Speaker 24: Georgia Lines.

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Speaker 28: She actually did this.

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Speaker 24: Really stellar gig, you know, the one that gives your

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01:50:40,813 --> 01:50:44,253
Speaker 24: skin the tingles. It's Civic Theater in Auckland. And actually

2193
01:50:44,333 --> 01:50:46,133
Speaker 24: some of the time they didn't like the stage. They

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01:50:46,213 --> 01:50:48,733
Speaker 24: just lit up the sky and the Civic because it

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01:50:48,893 --> 01:50:52,453
Speaker 24: is all stars in shooting stars, the real spine tingling

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01:50:52,533 --> 01:50:54,653
Speaker 24: magic stuff. And I know this because I watched everybody

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01:50:54,693 --> 01:50:56,253
Speaker 24: else's Instagram videos about it.

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Speaker 28: I wasn't there so absolute far.

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Speaker 24: I know I heard they recorded it or they videoed it,

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01:51:02,173 --> 01:51:04,293
Speaker 24: so I think eventually it'll come out for us to

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Speaker 24: be able to watch.

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Speaker 28: Yeah, I love that song.

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01:51:06,573 --> 01:51:10,013
Speaker 24: I think it actually really suits Mathaiki because it's about

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01:51:11,053 --> 01:51:13,013
Speaker 24: facing the fact that there are tough things that happen

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01:51:13,093 --> 01:51:14,933
Speaker 24: to us in life, but there's still so much to

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01:51:15,013 --> 01:51:18,733
Speaker 24: be grateful for and celebrate and again, so that's really.

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01:51:18,813 --> 01:51:20,933
Speaker 28: You know, on the pathline of what Matariki is.

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01:51:21,053 --> 01:51:22,333
Speaker 24: I know you also had a little bit of a

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01:51:22,453 --> 01:51:26,533
Speaker 24: dance off earlier when you got to hear the makarena Matariqui.

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01:51:27,373 --> 01:51:28,213
Speaker 28: The name stars.

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01:51:29,293 --> 01:51:30,733
Speaker 24: If there was ever a way to be able to

2212
01:51:30,773 --> 01:51:35,533
Speaker 24: remember all the star cluster names, why wha white born nagi.

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01:51:35,773 --> 01:51:37,813
Speaker 24: You can just be in my household that has been

2214
01:51:37,893 --> 01:51:39,973
Speaker 24: sung to me every day for two weeks while my

2215
01:51:40,093 --> 01:51:43,693
Speaker 24: small human prepped for her Martariki concerts. So yeah, yeah,

2216
01:51:44,013 --> 01:51:46,133
Speaker 24: but clever, isn't it like her new in nineties people

2217
01:51:46,173 --> 01:51:48,973
Speaker 24: we loved so much would now be teaching our kids

2218
01:51:49,013 --> 01:51:50,613
Speaker 24: how to remember the star clusters.

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01:51:50,653 --> 01:51:52,693
Speaker 28: So I'm I'm all here for there. I think that's amazing.

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Speaker 3: You've got a little bit nuance in there. Version of

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01:51:58,973 --> 01:52:01,773
Speaker 3: melourn I reckon. That's my favorite Marli language song.

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01:52:02,613 --> 01:52:04,773
Speaker 24: I think it's one of those songs that's I mean,

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01:52:04,853 --> 01:52:07,173
Speaker 24: it's a it's an additional folks song.

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01:52:07,293 --> 01:52:10,973
Speaker 28: I have sung it at Farewells. I have sung it, Yeah,

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01:52:11,493 --> 01:52:14,053
Speaker 28: I've sung it around the campfire, and I think it's.

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01:52:13,933 --> 01:52:16,333
Speaker 24: One of those songs that is easy for everybody to

2227
01:52:16,693 --> 01:52:19,893
Speaker 24: learn in a great way to get your mouth around

2228
01:52:19,893 --> 01:52:22,733
Speaker 24: some of the valves of tribal Mardi, which is beautiful

2229
01:52:22,773 --> 01:52:26,093
Speaker 24: and Anika's version is really great for that pulion a.

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01:52:26,253 --> 01:52:28,573
Speaker 28: Yeah, if you haven't gone the yet, it's.

2231
01:52:28,413 --> 01:52:32,373
Speaker 24: About cleansing and renewing again quite fitting for matadi ki.

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01:52:32,493 --> 01:52:41,053
Speaker 3: But by the wind, yeah, cleaned by the by the rain. Yeah,

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01:52:41,333 --> 01:52:44,413
Speaker 3: there's beautiful. It's so poetic and just find such a

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01:52:44,493 --> 01:52:44,933
Speaker 3: moving song.

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01:52:45,293 --> 01:52:46,973
Speaker 28: It rolls off the tongue and you're right, it is.

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01:52:47,373 --> 01:52:49,733
Speaker 24: Look at when I've sung it at Fairwells, it's quite

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01:52:49,733 --> 01:52:52,213
Speaker 24: an emotional moment and it's incredible because it's one of

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01:52:52,253 --> 01:52:55,733
Speaker 24: those songs that covers generations of people and everyone sort

2239
01:52:55,773 --> 01:52:57,853
Speaker 24: of has their own relationship with it. So I think, yeah,

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Speaker 24: a great one to put in there. Of course, we

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01:52:59,693 --> 01:53:01,693
Speaker 24: had to celebrate, like to really change it up you've

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01:53:01,693 --> 01:53:03,293
Speaker 24: got a beautiful song like that, and then you're going

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01:53:03,333 --> 01:53:09,373
Speaker 24: to go full drum brace based electronica with and so

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01:53:09,893 --> 01:53:11,733
Speaker 24: he was the winner of the Tape Music Prize for

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01:53:11,853 --> 01:53:16,173
Speaker 24: his album. And so he calls himself Dark Mardi Bass.

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01:53:16,773 --> 01:53:19,733
Speaker 24: So it's definitely got that. It's got that electronica sound,

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01:53:19,853 --> 01:53:22,693
Speaker 24: but then also those traditional Marty elements.

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01:53:22,853 --> 01:53:26,213
Speaker 28: It's full immersion to the el Marty. And he wanted

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Speaker 28: who are you?

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Speaker 24: Yeah, and you know, like, isn't that something we all

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01:53:30,693 --> 01:53:33,653
Speaker 24: question ourselves about at times in our lives? And he

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01:53:33,733 --> 01:53:36,373
Speaker 24: wanted to make an album in music that was very

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01:53:36,853 --> 01:53:41,453
Speaker 24: you know, it's definitely an alter sound and you're using

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01:53:41,573 --> 01:53:44,653
Speaker 24: our language. So when you put that on a global stage,

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01:53:44,693 --> 01:53:47,573
Speaker 24: you're like, there's no confusing where you've come from, right,

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Speaker 24: And I think that's just such an amazing thing.

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Speaker 28: I also didn't realize that he is.

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01:53:51,653 --> 01:53:56,533
Speaker 24: One of the co heads at Suwanana or Wipe Up,

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01:53:56,573 --> 01:53:59,093
Speaker 24: but he's like one of the tutors there. So this

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01:53:59,293 --> 01:54:01,773
Speaker 24: was kind of like I think his he didn't think

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01:54:01,813 --> 01:54:04,213
Speaker 24: people knew, you know, like two Aliss is like the

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01:54:04,533 --> 01:54:08,373
Speaker 24: doctor of language over the Yeah. But then he wins

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01:54:08,413 --> 01:54:11,213
Speaker 24: the Tape Music Prize and like Hey, wait a minute.

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01:54:11,973 --> 01:54:17,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've just got You've got a really lovely Max say.

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01:54:17,093 --> 01:54:20,653
Speaker 3: It's like fast stuff. There's low stuff. There's there are

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01:54:20,893 --> 01:54:24,413
Speaker 3: you know, artists, household names, there are artists. Yeah, there's

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01:54:24,413 --> 01:54:26,293
Speaker 3: stuff the kids. I'm glad that you put the matake,

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01:54:28,773 --> 01:54:30,973
Speaker 3: the one that sounds like the nine stars of matad Key.

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01:54:31,413 --> 01:54:33,333
Speaker 3: I'm glad that you didn't put that at near the end.

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01:54:33,613 --> 01:54:37,133
Speaker 3: So we still have what five songs afterwards before, you know,

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01:54:37,453 --> 01:54:38,773
Speaker 3: to try and cleanse our palettes.

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01:54:38,973 --> 01:54:42,453
Speaker 28: Before the airworm of You're here.

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01:54:42,573 --> 01:54:44,933
Speaker 24: The Loopy Tunes song is, which has a kid's song,

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01:54:45,013 --> 01:54:47,253
Speaker 24: but I think is still really beautiful for family. Is here,

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01:54:48,053 --> 01:54:50,173
Speaker 24: which happens to be mine or my daughter's favorite star

2276
01:54:50,213 --> 01:54:52,533
Speaker 24: because it's the wishing star. So if you wanted to

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01:54:52,573 --> 01:54:54,653
Speaker 24: make a wish throughout Matariki weekends, and.

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01:54:54,693 --> 01:54:56,413
Speaker 28: That's the star you're looking for. He you found the cluster,

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01:54:56,653 --> 01:54:58,253
Speaker 28: although you're in you're in Canada.

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01:54:58,413 --> 01:55:00,693
Speaker 3: I found the cluster before I found the cluster, before,

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01:55:00,893 --> 01:55:02,493
Speaker 3: before I headed off. I found the cluster. I was

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01:55:02,533 --> 01:55:05,213
Speaker 3: actually lucky enough to yeah yeah, yeah, lucky enough to

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01:55:05,253 --> 01:55:07,053
Speaker 3: be in Tahuna this week Queenstown.

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Speaker 24: So you guys, a big broad sky to see that.

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01:55:11,413 --> 01:55:14,213
Speaker 24: We keep a bit of a bit of cloud across Auckland.

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01:55:14,253 --> 01:55:16,413
Speaker 24: But anyway, we'll get there. The song that you're going

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01:55:16,493 --> 01:55:19,573
Speaker 24: to play very soon is the brand new drop for Masaiki.

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01:55:19,653 --> 01:55:21,133
Speaker 28: This is part of why are to Anthems?

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01:55:21,213 --> 01:55:26,133
Speaker 24: What an amazing collaboration Kaylee Bell, Troy Kingy and Rob Ruha.

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01:55:26,733 --> 01:55:29,853
Speaker 24: So all of the music that those guys represent is

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01:55:29,973 --> 01:55:33,773
Speaker 24: in Matari ki hung Nui. It's about bringing people together

2292
01:55:34,053 --> 01:55:37,133
Speaker 24: and again that's what it's about, but just it's just

2293
01:55:37,253 --> 01:55:41,413
Speaker 24: the most catchy, ridiculous, clever, fun song. It makes me

2294
01:55:41,613 --> 01:55:44,693
Speaker 24: feel good and I yeah, as well as being an

2295
01:55:44,733 --> 01:55:46,973
Speaker 24: absolute earworm which is going to replace him.

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01:55:47,693 --> 01:55:48,093
Speaker 28: Man.

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01:55:48,933 --> 01:55:50,373
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to cut you off right now so

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01:55:50,453 --> 01:55:52,093
Speaker 3: that we can save time to play that because that

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01:55:52,173 --> 01:55:53,413
Speaker 3: sounds like a bit of me as well. Thank you

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01:55:53,533 --> 01:55:56,213
Speaker 3: so much, Estelle. The full playlist the ten tracks that

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01:55:56,333 --> 01:55:58,253
Speaker 3: Estelle has chosen for us all will be on the

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Speaker 3: news talks. He'd be website back in a minute.

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Speaker 3: live from the three counting down to the Super Rugby

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Speaker 3: Final with weekend sport very shortly go the Crusaders. We're

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Speaker 3: going to leave you this morning with one of the

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Speaker 3: songs from our music reviewers Matadokey playlist. This is Mataaky

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Speaker 3: hunga Nui. See you next week, Sam.

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