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Speaker 1: on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your

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Speaker 1: local experts across residential, commercial and rural news, togs Head been.

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Speaker 2: I love morning and welcome seven Pass six Coming up today,

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Speaker 2: We're going to find out from councils how they feel

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Speaker 2: about the government forcing them to get back to doing

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Speaker 2: their actual jobs, and then measuring it as well. We're

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Speaker 2: going to have a look at the state of the

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Speaker 2: government's books that'll be revealed later today. How bad will

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Speaker 2: the blood bath likely be? Why is our wine production

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Speaker 2: down by quite a lot? Chris Luxelan for the last

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Speaker 2: time they see a chef, Josh Emaden for a chat

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Speaker 2: and around the world with Catherine and Rodd.

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Speaker 3: Ever dup cy Ellen.

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Speaker 2: Look, even people who think that councils do a fantastic

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Speaker 2: job generally must by now understand why the government is

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Speaker 2: going to have to pass the laws to get them

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Speaker 2: to actually focus on doing their jobs. I mean, it

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Speaker 2: has been clear now that I would say at least

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Speaker 2: four months, if not longer, to councils that the government

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Speaker 2: wants them to drop the distractions and just get on

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Speaker 2: with their work. And yet councils just apparently can't help themselves,

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Speaker 2: can they. I mean last week, as recently as last

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Speaker 2: unelected Mary representatives on the council. That's not going to

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Speaker 2: improve ratepayers lives one jot, but it's just going to

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Speaker 2: cost them more money, isn't it. Hasting's District Council did

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Speaker 2: the same thing three months ago with a youth counselors. Again,

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Speaker 2: no extra benefit to a rate payer, just extra cost

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Speaker 2: to a rate payer. Wellington City Council is today going

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Speaker 2: to debate whether they should submit their feels to the

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Speaker 2: Government on the Treaty Principal's Bill, which has nothing to

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Speaker 2: do with them, not their job at all. A bunch

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Speaker 2: of other councils have done this as well. This stuff

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Speaker 2: saying can you please just get back to doing r

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Speaker 2: job up and down the country, These guys show no

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Speaker 2: sign that they understand that's supposed to be cutting unnecessary

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Speaker 2: So it's come to this, right, So the Government announced

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Speaker 2: yesterday it's going to pass legislation to force them to

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Speaker 2: do their jobs. And there's two parts to this. The

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Speaker 2: first is that the four wellbeing pillars that task councils

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Speaker 2: well being and environmental well being, they're all going to

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Speaker 2: be scrapped. That was a bad idea from the last

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Speaker 2: is counsels will be forced to report clearly and simply

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Speaker 2: and publicly what they're spending their money on and what

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Speaker 2: they're charging their rate payers, and hopefully as a result

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Speaker 2: of this getting out the big stick, hopefully it will

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Speaker 2: mean that the excuses are cut, the distractions are dropped,

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Speaker 2: they get the message and do it voluntarily clearly hasn't worked.

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Speaker 3: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Angela Rainer has announced huge public service reform.

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Speaker 4: A plan for putting politics back in the service of

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Speaker 4: working people, a plum for stability, investment and reform, not chaos,

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Speaker 4: austerity and decline. And it's a plan that will deliver

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Speaker 2: Now to Lucy Letley, the baby killer, the lawyer says

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Speaker 2: he has rather new evidence that undermines the convictions.

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Speaker 5: for the prosecution, do we say that all the convictions

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Speaker 2: Now we've got some more info about Prince Andrew's friend,

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Speaker 2: the Chinese spy.

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Speaker 6: He ran a company with a consultancy firm called Hampton

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Speaker 6: Group International. It was an advisory group that helped with

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Speaker 7: The fact that he is able to call himself a

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Speaker 8: If we'll go check the last years, the last decades,

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Speaker 2: And hey, I know what you're interested in right now.

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Speaker 2: So that's a hard note on that. Finally, the latest

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Speaker 2: piece of iconic movie memorabilia has sold. This is Olivia

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Speaker 2: It was expected to sell for up to one hundred

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Speaker 2: it's been sold, after Olivia Newson John auctioned it off

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Speaker 2: ninety seconds. Now, I know Mike likes to bring you

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Speaker 2: the Democracy Watch round about this time, so he has

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Speaker 2: a little Democracy Watch update for you. German Chancellor all

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Speaker 2: of Schultz has just lost a confidence vote. This is

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Speaker 2: Hey, It's a little bit grim. So I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you've been follows following the sentence or the trial

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Speaker 2: the data out of China is still not improving.

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Speaker 9: No, and it looks like we need more stimulus there.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, there was a lot of interest in the

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Speaker 9: there had been some signs of a tentative recovery. Remember

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Speaker 9: China's aiming for a growth rate of around five percent.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Greg, thanks very much, Enjoy the rest of

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Speaker 2: councils definitely need to get back to doing the basics properly.

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Speaker 2: This is from a long suffering Wellington CBD Dweller Kent.

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Speaker 2: Nobody suffers more than someone living in Wellington, and then

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Speaker 9: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: This is the list. Okay, now what this is. You

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Speaker 2: By no means the only council who really just wants

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Speaker 2: What a waste of everybody's absolute time. A six twenty five.

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Speaker 11: Got re elected and it is a great honor to

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Speaker 12: Your majesty, King Charles, you're named after a span.

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Speaker 2: Good next news dogs ed.

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Speaker 2: a significant number of Keywis are using pharmaceutical drugs to party,

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Speaker 14: All kinds of drugs opioids, ADHD, medicifications and also bends

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Speaker 2: What are people doing with them? Is this to have

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Speaker 2: Are you worried about them?

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Speaker 2: All right, Hey, Chris, thanks very much, really appreciated this.

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Speaker 2: Chris Wilkens, massive university drug researcher. By the way, on

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Speaker 2: the opie Witz thing, especially over in the State, it's

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump has just how a little press conference at

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Speaker 12: The government knows what is happening. Look, our military knows

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Speaker 12: For some reason, they don't want to tell the people,

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Speaker 2: We want to know the job.

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Speaker 12: We're very they're very close to Bedminster. I think maybe

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Speaker 4: Have you received an intelligence briefing on the drones?

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Speaker 12: I don't want to comment on that.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's obviously being told what's going on. He obviously

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Speaker 2: going on. And they're not saying he's got a fair

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Speaker 2: point though, people that can play I don't know if

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Speaker 2: They are freaking out about it. And he's got a point.

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Speaker 16: Do you reckon there's a bit of a casual use

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Speaker 2: Would I would say that would be a charitable explanation

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Speaker 2: just say what's going on and put people out of

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Speaker 2: It be some commentators are saying hither that the drones

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Speaker 2: in hard and fast. But why not That's what happens

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Speaker 2: quarter too.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: Catherine Field, France correspondent with US Now Morning Catherine, Good morning, Heather.

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Speaker 2: So we've got the sentencing of the husband in the

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Speaker 2: rape trial this week. Do we have any idea how

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Speaker 2: long this guy could get?

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Speaker 17: Yes, this is Dominique ka Pellico, who of course is

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Speaker 17: facing a charge of aggravated rape, having introduced some fifty

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Speaker 17: possibly seventy men into his family home to rape his wife.

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Speaker 18: It looks as though he'll get twenty years.

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Speaker 17: It's a maximum sentence that can be handed down for

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Speaker 17: what he's charged with, aggravated rape. No one's expecting him

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Speaker 17: to get less that, certainly when his lawyer got up

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Speaker 17: and addressed the court last week, she said, look, he's

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Speaker 17: agreed to that he did all this. He said, he's guilty,

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Speaker 17: but please remember he's done all this. He's answer for forgiveness.

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Speaker 17: But he's seventy years old. He doesn't have many years

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Speaker 17: left in him. So we're all now just sitting waiting. Obviously,

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Speaker 17: the judge in the case has said that he could

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Speaker 17: hand down a sentence as early as Thursday, but it

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Speaker 17: could possibly be Friday.

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Speaker 2: And what about the other chaps who are involved here?

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Speaker 2: Are they all being sentenced this week as well?

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Speaker 17: They will all be sentenced as well. Fifty men, including

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Speaker 17: of course the husband. The men all aged between twenty

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Speaker 17: six and seventy four years old. To give me some

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Speaker 17: idea of the court, Heather, I mean, I've been in

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Speaker 17: that courtroom. I've been and having you many times to

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Speaker 17: see this. It's a very strange place because it's a

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Speaker 17: tiny court. This is a town which isn't used to

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Speaker 17: having this sort of trial going on, and so you've

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Speaker 17: got this tiny court where you've got there's absolutely my

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Speaker 17: new woman and he's ow pellicolled, the woman who has

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Speaker 17: raped so many times. They're in court face to face

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Speaker 17: with the man who are accused of having raped her.

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Speaker 17: She is face to face with them and at the

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Speaker 17: same time looking at the videos that are shown to

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Speaker 17: the court of those men raping her. And it's just

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Speaker 17: the strangest, most horrible thing you can ever imagine self being.

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Speaker 18: But she goes into court every day.

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Speaker 17: Women and sometimes young men stand in the court, clap

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Speaker 17: her into court, cheer her on, and at the end

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Speaker 17: of each day she again walks out. People give her flowers,

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Speaker 17: they cheer her. And it's just the strength of that

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Speaker 17: woman that.

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Speaker 18: No one can understand.

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Speaker 17: Where this grandmother has gotten the strength to turn it

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Speaker 17: everything on its.

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Speaker 18: Head and say she isn't ashamed. It's those men who

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Speaker 18: are accused of rape who should be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it is quite remarkable how she has

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Speaker 2: basically put herself out there and just and not taken

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Speaker 2: on any of the shame. But I saw recently she's

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Speaker 2: changed her name and she has moved town. Is there

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Speaker 2: a certain measure of anonymity now or is I mean,

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Speaker 2: is it the case that she is so famous if

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Speaker 2: she walks down the street in France, everybody knows who

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Speaker 2: she is.

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Speaker 19: Oh.

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Speaker 17: She right from the start, when she decided that she

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Speaker 17: was not going to have this court case behind closed doors,

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Speaker 17: she gave away all anonymity.

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Speaker 18: Her name is out there. People know her.

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Speaker 17: I mean you see posters up on the streets and

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Speaker 17: towns across France saying you're celebrating her strength. So yeah,

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Speaker 17: her name is out there. Yes, she's changed the name,

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Speaker 17: but she's changed it to her made a name. Her

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Speaker 17: three children are also well known, the daughter.

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Speaker 18: The daughter has.

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Speaker 17: Also written about this because there were videos found that

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Speaker 17: her father had taken off her in underwear that wasn't hers.

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Speaker 17: So she now says that she doesn't know whether she

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Speaker 17: was raped either.

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Speaker 18: He says he didn't rape it. So you've got all.

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Speaker 17: These people, very famous people now part of French life,

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Speaker 17: that are almost not just here in France, but her

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Speaker 17: household names.

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Speaker 18: Their faces are all over the media all the time.

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Speaker 2: Ye, it's incredible. Hey, so do you reckon we're going

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Speaker 2: to go with Fabrie for the election in Germany?

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Speaker 18: It looks like that. Yeah.

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Speaker 17: Just a couple of hours ago, the German Parliament had

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Speaker 17: a vote of confidence.

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Speaker 18: Of course, the chancellor lost it. Now lost that vote.

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Speaker 17: What happens now is the German president has twenty one

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Speaker 17: days to decide on whether or not to dissolve the

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Speaker 17: lower house of Parliament. Now it might seem a little

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Speaker 17: strange to the voter's gone through. Everything should go ahead

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Speaker 17: then to have an election within sixty days. But the President,

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Speaker 17: FRANKL folter Steinmier, came out just a couple of hours

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Speaker 17: ago and said no, there will be no instant dissolving

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Speaker 17: of parliament. He said he needs to talk to different

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Speaker 17: political parties to find out of the land and it

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Speaker 17: might not even be until after the Christmas break before

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Speaker 17: he finally dissolves parliament. And what he said was, and

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Speaker 17: I'm quoting here, Heather, the hectic pace of party, politics

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Speaker 17: and the beat of the media do not dictate procedure.

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Speaker 18: The Constitution and its rules do.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thank you very much, Catherine, really appreciate it. Catherine Field,

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Speaker 2: France Correspondents Morning.

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Speaker 20: Here.

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Speaker 2: Due to a couple of medical conditions, I've got some

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Speaker 2: fairly serious medication I don't always need, but when I do,

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Speaker 2: I really need them. But it's very hard to see

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Speaker 2: someone you care about or a close friend in pain

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Speaker 2: for whatever reason and they can't get to the doctor

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Speaker 2: for often a month, six weeks. I would say a

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Speaker 2: percentage of the misuse of drugs could be along the

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Speaker 2: same lines, probably true. Ay, I mean, you think about

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Speaker 2: how often you've gone to the doctor and the doctor's gone, oh,

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Speaker 2: he's he's five thousand panadoles for you, and then yet

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Speaker 2: your mum comes over with a headache, and you go,

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Speaker 2: I just take a shit of those. Yeah, take some neurofens,

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Speaker 2: take some tramadol, take some codine. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I think we're all doing it, aren't we to some

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Speaker 2: extent where just one I've ever heard was somebody I

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Speaker 2: love very dearly and thought was smarter than this using

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Speaker 2: half a packet of somebody else's antibiotics to get over

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Speaker 2: a cold, which means I only had half a course seat.

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Speaker 2: It's not very smart, is it? Nine away from seven?

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy, Hellen bondom My Cosking Breakfast with a Veta Retirement,

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Speaker 1: Communities News, togs Head b.

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Speaker 2: I just reminded we're going to speak to Campbell Barry

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Speaker 2: of Local Government, New Zealand after seven to get his

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Speaker 2: take on what the government is doing to local councils.

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Speaker 2: Is six away from seven.

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Speaker 3: All the ins and the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Now, the US has done the restaurant industry winners and

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Speaker 2: losers list and over what's happened is over the course

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Speaker 2: of the year, prices for food away from home went

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Speaker 2: up three point six percent, but while the grocery prices

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Speaker 2: rose just as one point six percent, so cooking at

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Speaker 2: home was pretty much for some more attractive Because of it.

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Speaker 2: Many cut their restaurants spending, which caused lower profits for

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Speaker 2: most and twenty six bankruptcy filings for chains including Red

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Speaker 2: Lobster and TGI Friday. So let's have a look at

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Speaker 2: the losers first. Not your typical this restaurant sucked and

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Speaker 2: this one didn't type list o K, So here we go.

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Speaker 2: Loser fast food in general, less money spent put traffic

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Speaker 2: down two percent. Loser Burgers, McDonald's because of the E

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Speaker 2: coli outbreak, Wendy's because it closed one hundred and forty restaurants,

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Speaker 2: and Burger King because it had lower foot traffic because

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Speaker 2: of high prices. They all had lackluster years. Loser casual

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Speaker 2: dining traffic was apparently down two percent to casual dining restaurants.

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Speaker 2: And I've already mentioned the bankruptcies. But enough of the loser, right,

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the winners yet. So winner value value

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Speaker 2: became the restaurant's CEO's favorite word, as five dollars value

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Speaker 2: meals were launched all over the place and orders of

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Speaker 2: value meals were up nine percent. Another winner is Chicken.

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Speaker 2: Apparently chicken focused fast food chains performed the best this year.

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Speaker 2: The only one not to have a good year was

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Speaker 2: Weirdly KFC, which you'd say would be the most well known.

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Speaker 2: Another winner is Taco Bell, the only one of the

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Speaker 2: main player young brand restaurants to report an increase in

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Speaker 2: same as same store sales growth, and another winner chap

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Speaker 2: called Brian Nickel. Brian Nichol is the new chief executive

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Speaker 2: of Starbucks. He came in from Chipotle immediately saw a

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Speaker 2: positive swing in the shares. With twenty seven billion dollar

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Speaker 2: for Starbucks. He's seen as the top public restaurants CEO

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Speaker 2: in the US. His ideas his proposals have led analysts

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Speaker 2: to name Starbucks as the likely best performer for twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five. So overall, restaurants and fast food chains in

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Speaker 2: general are declared the winners for twenty twenty four, mostly

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Speaker 2: for the expectations heading into twenty twenty five. If I

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Speaker 2: had a winner's list and a loser's list, out for

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Speaker 2: Berger's on the winner's list when a new Burger wins

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Speaker 2: every single time. Now, we're going to find out very shortly. Well,

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Speaker 2: when I say very shortly, we're going to find out

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Speaker 2: in a few hours time, just you know how bad

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Speaker 2: the government's books are, because Treasury is going to release

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Speaker 2: its half year Economic Update or HIFU. We'll have a

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Speaker 2: little chat to Bryce Wilkinson, former Treasury director about that

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Speaker 2: very shortly, because he'll have a bit of an insight

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Speaker 2: into it. I think what you might be interested in

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Speaker 2: is just how much debt we're going to have to

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Speaker 2: take on depending on how bad the books are. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk about that and then also definitely a loser for

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Speaker 2: US wine not doing very well at the moment. Wine

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Speaker 2: exports down this year by twenty percent. Will explain why

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Speaker 2: news tooks.

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Speaker 3: Ev your trusted source for news and views.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy Allen on the mic Hosking breakfast with the

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Speaker 1: range Rover villa designed to intrigue can use togs.

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Speaker 2: That'd be good morning. So Cabinet has agreed to pass

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Speaker 2: law to force counsels to go back to focusing on

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Speaker 2: their actual jobs. The law changes will include making councils

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Speaker 2: publicly report in very simple terms what they're spending money

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Speaker 2: on from mid next year. Local Government New Zealand Vice

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Speaker 2: President Campbell Barriers with US Morning.

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Speaker 3: Campbell, good morning.

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Speaker 2: You won't have a problem with this, will you.

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Speaker 13: I think there's a lot of potential good things that

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Speaker 13: can come from benchmarking scene wherever councils sit alongside yourself,

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Speaker 13: it's not necessarily a bad thing. I think we're just

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Speaker 13: going to make sure that we're measuring the right things

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Speaker 13: and that we are comparing apples with apples when we

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Speaker 13: do this exercise as well. But I think transparency for

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Speaker 13: ratepayers are focus on bringing rates down as something that

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Speaker 13: all councils are pretty keen on.

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Speaker 2: What about taking away the full wellbeing pillars that the

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Speaker 2: Labor government put in. You're happy to see the back

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Speaker 2: of them.

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Speaker 13: Oh, look, this has come and gone from my time

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Speaker 13: in local government of the last fourteen years, two or

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Speaker 13: three times now, so I would say it's probably not

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Speaker 13: actually going to make a huge difference the purpose of

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Speaker 13: the Local Government Act. I think exercises like benchmarking looking

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Speaker 13: at how we can be more transparent with rate payers

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Speaker 13: around where we actually are investing in what we're doing,

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Speaker 13: so ultimately they can hold us accountable, not the government.

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Speaker 13: I think rate payers are the ones who should be

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Speaker 13: holding us accountable is the most important thing. So I

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Speaker 13: think that's something that councils will be open to and

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Speaker 13: seeing how we can do things better.

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Speaker 2: I thought that the well being pillars were part of

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Speaker 2: the reason and part of the problem with the wellbeing

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Speaker 2: pillars were that they were forcing councils to start considering

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Speaker 2: all these other things like cultural wellbeing and social wellbeing

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Speaker 2: and economic well being and so on, and they were

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Speaker 2: being used to justify a lot of the stuff that

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Speaker 2: was kind of outside the scope of traditional council work.

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Speaker 2: If we take them away, does it not force the

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Speaker 2: councils to actually focus a little bit more carefully on

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Speaker 2: the adgin all nuts and bolts.

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Speaker 13: Well, I mean you just have to look at it back.

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Speaker 13: You know, the John Key government removed the four well

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Speaker 13: Beings from the Local Government Act. I actually don't think

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Speaker 13: it made a real difference in regards to how councils operated.

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Speaker 13: The Labor Government brought them back, and I just don't

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Speaker 13: think that actually makes a real difference. So for me,

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Speaker 13: I think exercises like the benchmarking looking at how we

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Speaker 13: can be more transparent makes more sense and it's actually

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Speaker 13: going to make a tangible difference on the ground. The

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Speaker 13: reality is, regardless of the four well Beings and are

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Speaker 13: in there, that's always going to come into play in

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Speaker 13: some form, even when it comes to our delivery of

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Speaker 13: our basic infrastructure for councils.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it sounds like you guys are still bristling

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Speaker 2: a little bit of the fact that government is getting

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Speaker 2: involved here.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, look at the Government's made their expectations pretty clear

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Speaker 13: at the Local Government Conference of where they were hitting.

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Speaker 13: We're actually supportive of benchmarking if it's done well. If

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Speaker 13: it's not done well, then there's a real problem there.

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Speaker 13: For example, if you're comparing debt per head of population

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Speaker 13: or rates increases in a growth council like Hamilton versus

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Speaker 13: Central Books day, you are comparing the apples and oranges.

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Speaker 13: So you know there is some work that needs to

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Speaker 13: be done to make sure it is something that is

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Speaker 13: actually effective and will make tangible differences on the ground.

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Speaker 2: It's stuff, Campbell, Thanks very much, Campbell. Barry Local Government,

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Vice President.

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Speaker 3: Heather duper selim past seven.

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Speaker 2: We're going to find out today just how stuff the

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Speaker 2: government's books are when Treasury releases its half year Economic

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Speaker 2: Update or the HIAFU. Now it already sounds like the

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Speaker 2: Finance Minister is softening us up for a return to

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Speaker 2: surplus to be a year later than we had expected

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Speaker 2: and with us now as the former Treasury director in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Initiative Senior Fellow Bryce Wilkinson, Hey.

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Speaker 21: Brice, it's good morning.

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Speaker 2: Given what's happening with the economy at the moment, are

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Speaker 2: you happy to see the surplus pushed out or do

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Speaker 2: you expect better.

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Speaker 21: Well, I'm not happy to see it pushed out, but

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Speaker 21: if it's pushed out, that's what it is. What I'm

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Speaker 21: really looking for is signs of even more determined action

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Speaker 21: by the government to stop so much wasteful public spending

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Speaker 21: and to use assets better, and also to do things

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Speaker 21: about New Zealand's awfully slow growth and productivity. It's that

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Speaker 21: slow growth which isn't producing much income growth and therefore

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Speaker 21: the government's not getting much revenue growth, so that's part.

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Speaker 13: Of the problem.

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Speaker 2: What kind of cutting would you like to see.

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Speaker 21: Well, the government sort of holding public service numbers way

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Speaker 21: above where they were pre COVID, and a government spending

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Speaker 21: is running at about two percent of GDP higher than

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Speaker 21: it was pre COVID, So it's a case of chasing

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Speaker 21: value for money and government spending. I particularly support the

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Speaker 21: government's initiative in the social policy space of bringing back

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Speaker 21: the Social Investment of COACH, which really has a focus

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Speaker 21: on pointing out what programs work.

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Speaker 2: Bryce the government doesn't have to push the surplus out right.

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Speaker 2: They could actually do what you're saying, what you're advocating for,

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Speaker 2: which is just cut really deep and get us back

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Speaker 2: into surplus. Earlier, can't they?

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Speaker 21: Yes, that that could be done, so why not. I've

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Speaker 21: been hoping that in last year's budget the government would

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Speaker 21: have done more, but it left itself of very little

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Speaker 21: physical room for maneuver with extra operating spreein there, then

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Speaker 21: spend a lot more money on pharmaceuticals and yeah, so

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Speaker 21: it's it's put itself under more pressure this year by

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Speaker 21: not doing more last year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah so right, Bryce, thanks very much, doctor Bryce Wilkinson,

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Speaker 2: former Treasury Director in New Zealand Initiative Senior Fellow Dull

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Speaker 2: Shane Ritti has just in the last few minutes announced

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Speaker 2: that he is boosting security again for emergency apartments to

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Speaker 2: keep them safe this summer, because of course we know

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Speaker 2: it's been a bit hairy in the old emergency departments

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Speaker 2: and they have committed a fair wack of cash over

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Speaker 2: four years to actually having security guards and emergency departments.

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Speaker 2: But twenty hospitals around the country will receive additional funding

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Speaker 2: this summer. He hasn't specified which hospitals, but you could

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Speaker 2: probably guess it'll be places that we all go Coramandal, Toad,

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Speaker 2: up North, anywhere anywhere which are holiday hotspots Tope wide.

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Speaker 2: Imagine they're probably going to get a little bit of

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Speaker 2: help there with the security. Speaking of the high fu

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Speaker 2: now we're going to talk to Chris Luxon, who's going

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Speaker 2: to be with us after half past seven about this.

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Speaker 2: But it works as simply as this. Right where we

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Speaker 2: open the books today, we see how stuff the government's

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Speaker 2: finances are because we're in recession, because Adrian or etcetera, etcetera.

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Speaker 2: You can work, you fill in the blanks there. But

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Speaker 2: if we do not get to surplus in twenty seven

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Speaker 2: twenty eight like we're supposed to, what that means is

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Speaker 2: we're going to have to take on more debt. Now,

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Speaker 2: just to put this in some perspective for you, the

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Speaker 2: debt that we already have is massive, and it is

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Speaker 2: costing us just an interest payments about nine billion dollars

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Speaker 2: every single year. Nine billion dollars is enough to pay

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Speaker 2: every single year for the defense force, the police, the corrections, customs,

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Speaker 2: and then still leave you a cool billion dollars in

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Speaker 2: the pocket. That is how much money we're blowing. So

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Speaker 2: if we take on more debt, that just goes up

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Speaker 2: fourteen past the Mike.

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Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard By News

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Speaker 1: talks that'd be.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to run you through. We got a little

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Speaker 2: update for you on the Manyerebo Mari investigation. Run you

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Speaker 2: through that shortly. It's seventeen past seven. Now, our wine

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Speaker 2: production this year looks like it's going to be the

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Speaker 2: lowest in twenty years. And not just us. It's not

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Speaker 2: just in us problem, it's the entire Southern hemisphere. Kee

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Speaker 2: we John Barker runs the International Organization of Vine and

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Speaker 2: Wine and is with us. Now, hey, John Hill, Now

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Speaker 2: our problem appears to be a frost and Marlborough.

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Speaker 22: Is that right?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, it seems to be the case.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And what about the rest of the Southern hemisphere.

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Speaker 23: Well, really it's the case for the rest of the world.

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Speaker 23: I think we've seen a whole bunch of different climatic

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Speaker 23: impacts around the world.

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Speaker 3: So we've had.

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Speaker 23: We've had frost, we've had flooding, we've had heat, we've

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Speaker 23: had disease pressure in various different places. In fact, the

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Speaker 23: southern hemisphere is a bit down, but the northern hemispheres

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Speaker 23: is probably down even more that. That in fact has

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Speaker 23: a lot to do with France having a very small

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Speaker 23: harvest this year. I think there were twenty three percent

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Speaker 23: down in total.

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Speaker 2: What happened to them.

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Speaker 22: A combination.

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Speaker 23: Again, it's reasonably I know because I looked there was

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Speaker 23: reasonably cool year in some places, well cool where I was,

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Speaker 23: but in south very hot in some places had disease

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Speaker 23: pressure as well, caused by rains.

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Speaker 2: So John, is this just is this a function of

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Speaker 2: climate change? We're just going to have the climate is

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Speaker 2: going to change and wine production is going to be

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Speaker 2: up down as it does that.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, wine productions always up and down. And what we've

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Speaker 23: seen historically you should be very up and down before

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Speaker 23: we had better techniques, and that variation has kind of

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Speaker 23: narrowed off. But in the last fifteen years we've seen

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Speaker 23: the variation between global harvests of get bigger and bigger,

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Speaker 23: and that's definitely due to climate change.

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Speaker 2: Hey, do you know what I was reading something fascinating

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Speaker 2: last night. Do you see the Scandies are growing wine

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Speaker 2: now in really really cold parts of their countries?

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Speaker 23: I know, I know, it's quite extraordinary. In fact, the

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Speaker 23: end of day I received a letter from the Norwegian

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Speaker 23: grape growers wanting to become members of our organization.

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Speaker 2: Did you say, absolutely not with your weird kind of wine?

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Speaker 23: I haven't actually tried their wine, but I think if

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Speaker 23: if they can do, we've got on them.

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Speaker 2: It's made from a grape called Solaris, isn't it.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, Yeah, well Solaris is one of these grapes that

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Speaker 23: are made by combining two great varieties and that they

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Speaker 23: can be a bit more hearty to the colder conditions.

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Speaker 2: What do you expect to taste like, John, I imagine

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Speaker 2: if you're growing grapes in a really cold place, it's

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Speaker 2: going to be quite sharp.

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Speaker 23: You'll definitely have a more acidity in the taste profile.

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Speaker 23: It probably depends a bit on the nature of the

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Speaker 23: rightening season. But yeah, some of these priorities will accumulate

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Speaker 23: a bit more sugar so they weren't too sharp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting stuff, John, Thanks very much appreciated. John Barker,

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Speaker 2: International Organization of Vine and Wine Direct to general. So

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Speaker 2: listen on the monyere w made right. We'll be keeping

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Speaker 2: an eye on that. That's the investigation into the polling

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Speaker 2: booth that was put in the media, which obviously was

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Speaker 2: a really bad decision because the MRI was being run

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Speaker 2: by a woman who was also running as a candidate

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Speaker 2: in the election then went on to win the electorate,

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Speaker 2: So that raised all kinds of questions. That investigation was

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Speaker 2: supposed to come out last Thursday, and it didn't. It

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Speaker 2: has now been delayed to the end of January. Now

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Speaker 2: I think that's good because more people are going to

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Speaker 2: be paying attention at the start of the year than

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Speaker 2: they would two weeks before Christmas. Actually sounds like it's

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Speaker 2: going to be very interesting because apparently the findings are

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Speaker 2: going to impact all of the public service, and some

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Speaker 2: of the things that come out of the investigation will

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Speaker 2: require referral to other authorities for further consideration. Seven twenty.

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Speaker 3: Together do for see Ellen here.

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Speaker 2: The grapes of Marlborough Fine Vineyards will be dumping grapes

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Speaker 2: this harvest because they still have wine and their tanks

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Speaker 2: due to the lack of sales, has got nothing to

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Speaker 2: do with the wather the tracy, thanks very much. Seven

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Speaker 2: twenty four. Now, look, this business of our police going

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Speaker 2: but the way that the cops are being weird about

877
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: it is making this a big deal. Isn't it. No

878
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 2: one believes the police story, surely. I mean, the police

879
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: story is nothing to see here, was just a holiday,

880
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with the police itself, even though

881
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 2: thirty three police officers just happened to all go to

882
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 2: the same place at exactly the same time, organized by

883
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 2: Jessica at work, and not organized by Jessica at work

884
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: during work hours. She was just doing it on her weekends.

885
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 2: And even though someone on that trip emailed the boss

886
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: afterwards and said, yeah, the t was really productive, had

887
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 2: nothing to do with work. No one's going to buy

888
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: that story. That doesn't pass the sniff test, does it.

889
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, like maybe they all took annual leave

890
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 2: and paid for it themselves, and and Jessica organized it

891
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: during her weekends. But to pretend that it had absolutely

892
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: nothing to do with being a police officer is obviously

893
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 2: stretching credibility, and I think that that's what's keeping people

894
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 2: interested in it, because it feels like the cops have

895
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: got something to hide here. They shouldn't have anything to

896
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: hide here. This is very normal stuff. Big powers like

897
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: China do this kind of stuff all the time. They

898
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 2: try to use soft power to influence influences. I mean,

899
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: the States does it right that every year the States

900
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 2: chooses somebody from New Zealand, often from the media, flies

901
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: them out to the US, and if I remember correctly,

902
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: it's all expenses paid, and then they join other people

903
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: from around the world have also been selected, and they

904
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: go on a tour of all these places around the

905
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: country Washington, New York, San fran Florida, whatever. And the

906
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: whole point of the thing is just to create an affinity,

907
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: like a soft spot for America. Ten years ago thereabouts,

908
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: I went on that trip, and as long as you

909
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 2: see it for what it is, it's not a problem.

910
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: It's just soft power trying to influence you. It's the

911
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: same with China. China's not our enemy. We have a

912
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: complicated relationship with China, yes, but frankly, the relationship with

913
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 2: the US can also at times be a little complicated.

914
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: On the face of it, there is nothing to see

915
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: here other than a bunch of police going on a

916
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: cultural trip to China, clearly organized through the police in

917
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 2: some way, and clearly with the blessing of the police bosses.

918
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 2: There is nothing weird about this. But by pretending they

919
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 2: have absolutely nothing to do with it despite all the

920
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: evidence to the contrary. The cops are at the moment

921
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 2: making this feel really weird.

922
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 3: Hever dupe Ellen Prime ministers with.

923
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: Us shortly might ask him about that, and Connall texts

924
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: yesterday Connall text to say that the Vineyard bridge was

925
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 2: broken again, and I didn't mention it was. I thought, Nah,

926
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: can't be true. Can't be true. The bridge was down

927
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 2: for nine months, they fixed it on Friday. Can't be

928
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 2: broken by Monday again. It's broken by Monday again. Connell

929
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: was bang on broken by Monday again. Look, granted it

930
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 2: was only down yesterday for ten to fi fifteen minutes,

931
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Speaker 2: but jas at broad Jay I would say, do not

932
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: be pinning your hopes on that bridge in Auckland being

933
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: part of your commute. This is the one that goes

934
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 2: up and down, up and down, up and down, because

935
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: obviously the up and down bit doesn't really work that well.

936
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Speaker 2: So just factor that in news togs. He'd be prom Minister.

937
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Speaker 20: Next setting the news agenda and digging into the issues.

938
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Speaker 1: Heather duflicy Ellen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's

939
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: Real Estate, Your local experts across residential, commercial and rural

940
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: news dogs head by celebrity.

941
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Speaker 2: Yat Josh he mets gonna us after eight o'clock.

942
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 24: Listen.

943
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: News just coming in from the States. There has been

944
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 2: a shooting at another school. It's Christian school in Wisconsin.

945
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: Five dead, possibly some in hospital as well, and the

946
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 2: shooter as a juvenile, so anywhere between fourteen and seventeen

947
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: years old. Right now, it's twenty three away from Aiden

948
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 2: with us as the Prime Minister. Chris Lux and good morning, Chris.

949
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 2: Are you there, Chris?

950
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 22: I am.

951
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: Can you hear me? Gremlin's in the system, not your fault,

952
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: so don't worry about it. Yes, I can hear you. Hey, listen,

953
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 2: I got a text. I got a text from somebody

954
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: yesterday to say that I've been giving Eric a stan

955
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 2: for too much credit. And the phone in school's band

956
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: was actually your idea?

957
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 22: Was it?

958
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 10: Well?

959
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 25: We both were very passionate about it. Yeah, I was

960
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 25: very passionate about it. I'd seen it in other parts

961
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 25: of the world, and we'd seen the advice actually from

962
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 25: schools that already had it.

963
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 10: But yeah, no, soon we both joined.

964
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 25: We both put that forward and we got that through,

965
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 25: which is great, and we got it done fast.

966
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: Because I did actually did you care so much about it.

967
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 25: Well, because it's I mean, basically, principals, teachers, parents, kids

968
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 25: filed out of control about it. The reality was at

969
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 25: the massive distraction in the classroom. We've got serious issues

970
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 25: around literacy and numeracs. We've talked before in school attendance.

971
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 25: Those are the three things we've got to focus on,

972
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 25: back to basics. And it's been cool because actually, yes,

973
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 25: we took a bit of grief from the media, the

974
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 25: beginning and the opposition, but the point is the principles

975
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 25: a saying, rugby bles are going through windows again, kids

976
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 25: are actually talking to each other, cyber bullying is down,

977
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 25: and kids are less distracted. So all of that's a

978
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 25: good thing. And it's funny how even kids today will

979
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 25: come up to me and say, no, that's been a

980
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 25: good thing promised. So Nana, I'm on board with that.

981
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 25: That's okay, and so it's been good. So that's a

982
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 25: common sense, you know, a solution to a very common

983
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 25: problem that we've been having.

984
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: So and a very big problem. And make sure that

985
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 2: I give you some of the credit next time I

986
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: give her credit for it.

987
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 25: Well, I didn't know you were a Norwegian wine expert.

988
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 10: I just heard it coming into your show.

989
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 25: So I was thinking talking about all the big issues

990
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 25: of the day. He says, you know a lot about.

991
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 10: Norwegian, some random great worry and do you know what

992
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 10: it is, Chris subject.

993
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: Well, what it is, Chris, is that when you can't

994
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 2: have something because you're heavily pregnant, you just get really

995
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 2: obsessed with it. Do you know what I mean? It's

996
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 2: one of those fomo, That's what I've got.

997
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 9: At the minute you knew.

998
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 25: The type of grapes and everything, it was quite something.

999
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 2: Well, thank you. Hey, so the high food today, should

1000
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: we expect that you guys are going to push the

1001
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 2: surplus out by another year?

1002
00:47:59,280 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1003
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 25: Look, I'm not going to premp the actual announcement that's coming,

1004
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 25: but no surprises to anyone listening that times are tough

1005
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 25: and we've had a pretty you know, we've inherited very

1006
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 25: challenging economics.

1007
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 10: Look, we've got a choice, which as we could.

1008
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 25: Continue carrying on spending as the last lot did, which

1009
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 25: was tax spend and borrow more and massive debt that

1010
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 25: we've got to deal with and interest payments around that,

1011
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 25: or alternatively, we can throw the economy into really hard

1012
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 25: austerity and that wouldn't be good either. I think we've

1013
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 25: found the right balance, which is that actually we can

1014
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 25: do get the front line right, get more value for

1015
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 25: money out of the public service. We got to continue

1016
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 25: that work for sure. That's not a one off, that

1017
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 25: is daily practice here.

1018
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 3: We have to do that.

1019
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 25: We've been able to get people tax relief and we're

1020
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 25: able to make some of these investments around the future.

1021
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 25: But you know, sometimes people say, well, why can't you

1022
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 25: just go spend four billion dollars on fairies or three

1023
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 25: billion on Dunedin Hospital. Those are tough choices and the

1024
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 25: reason is that we need to have financial discipline in

1025
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 25: place because how it manifests itself is with more in

1026
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 25: big a debt, which we just can't have. And ultimately,

1027
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 25: I think here the stuff that you and I've talked

1028
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 25: about in the past is for the last thirty years

1029
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 25: this country has had of what we call an economic

1030
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 25: productivity disease. Despite how hard we work, with some of

1031
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 25: the hardest working people on earth, we haven't been able

1032
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 25: to generate higher incomes that actually transform the quality of

1033
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 25: our life. So you know, we need to invest in

1034
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 25: the long term pieces around education and science and.

1035
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 2: Infrastratally, but you can cut harder than you are.

1036
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 10: Well, we're going to continue the pressure.

1037
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 25: But you know, I think we found I think we're

1038
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 25: finding the balance and you can kind of see that

1039
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 25: those settings are leading to know inflation and interest rate

1040
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 25: and text.

1041
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: Can we really say it's a balance, Chris. If you

1042
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: still have more public servants working for us right now

1043
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: than we had pre COVID, well.

1044
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 25: There's more to do, That's what I'm saying. We're going

1045
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 25: to continue that. I mean, you see us work within

1046
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 25: the next few years. We've talked about very very tight

1047
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 25: operating allowances which we're committed to working within, and that

1048
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 25: will mean that we have to drive and extract more

1049
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 25: value for money without to do.

1050
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: Then why not just do it all in one go.

1051
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 2: I mean, if you know that you're going to have

1052
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 2: to cut harder, why drag it out and why right now?

1053
00:49:59,320 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 10: Well we are.

1054
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 25: We're going to continue to push hard and that's been

1055
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 25: the message immediately the day after budget twenty four this

1056
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 25: year was exactly that message to my ministers and to

1057
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Speaker 25: the public services. This is how we're going to continue

1058
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 25: to roll. We're going to be relentless about making sure

1059
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 25: we get value for money, a return on that investment

1060
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 25: that has to happen. And so yes, you're right, there's

1061
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 25: more to do. But where we know that, and that's

1062
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 25: how we are rolling through.

1063
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Speaker 2: Think about it. I mean, nobody, nobody if you know that.

1064
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 2: If you if you're running a household budget and you

1065
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: know that you're getting into trouble with the credit card,

1066
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: you don't cut. You don't cut a little bit, little bit,

1067
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: little bit little bit. You go hard and you just

1068
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 2: cut all the big expenses. Why ain't you guys taking

1069
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: a similar approach.

1070
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Speaker 25: Well, hard austerity actually has a whole bunch of other implications.

1071
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 2: It's not hard austerity, Chris, because if you're just taking

1072
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: us back to pre COVID public servant levels, that's not austerity.

1073
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 25: Well that may well be where we get too. But

1074
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 25: the point is that we are working our way through

1075
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 25: that and we're doing that in a sensible kind of

1076
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 25: way as we just you know, as we think about

1077
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 25: message very clearly to cease has been make sure all

1078
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 25: the programs that you've got going on, all the funding

1079
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 25: that you've got going on. And I can tell you

1080
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 25: you know, there's an awful lot of providers, there's an

1081
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 25: awful lot of money going out the door. A lot

1082
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 25: of it gets lost in the bureaucracy. We're expecting massive

1083
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 25: amounts of efficiency. We've had all the government agencies go

1084
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 25: through what we call performance plans just in the last

1085
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 25: couple of months, because that is actually helping those sees

1086
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 25: to really focus on what we're asking them to deliver.

1087
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Speaker 25: That's why the goals are there, That's why the corterly

1088
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 25: action plans are there, because we want them to be

1089
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 25: focused on the things that matter the most. And there's

1090
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 25: a lot of stuff that's been going on, a lot

1091
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 25: of bureaucracy that's built up that we've got to take

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Speaker 25: out of the system and so and liberate it and

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00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 25: make it simpler. We have a terrible habit in this

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Speaker 25: country of complexing things and making things very duplicate. If

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00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 25: you've heard us talk about councils yesterday, well, the reason

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00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 25: is councils and local government are doing some of the

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00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 25: same stuff, and they should be complementary and working together

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00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 25: doing the respective roles that they have, not counsels trying

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Speaker 25: to do the work of central government and voice vice versa.

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Speaker 2: Listen on the fairies, were you guys ready to sign

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00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 2: a contract for some new fairies? In October.

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00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 25: Well, we've I mean feries, I saw your reporting on

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00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 25: that over the end of last week. But what I'd

1104
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 25: say is it's really important we get this one rise.

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00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: You can't funfold it now, and I want you to.

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00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 2: But we're signed a contract in October.

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Speaker 25: Well we've got we don't need to because if you

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00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 25: work backwards, the theories need to be replaced in twenty

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00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 25: twenty nine. We actually don't need to make a decision

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Speaker 25: on the procurement of that to the end of March

1111
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 25: I think it is, or your end of March. And

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00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 25: as a result, what we've got is we've delivered a

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00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 25: really good option. You've got a value for money option exactly.

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00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 25: It's we just talked about safe, reliable, resilient two rail

1115
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 25: compatible theories. Now, all we're saying is between now and

1116
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 25: the next three or four months, we've got some time.

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00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 25: We've got a window if that proposal can be improved

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00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 25: upon and deliver more value for money and give us

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00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 25: a better solution than fantastic.

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Speaker 10: But if it can't, we go with the.

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00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: Chi composition that we're so you have got a proposal

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00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 2: ready to go, have you?

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Speaker 10: We have yeah, two rail compatible theories that's what we're signing.

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Speaker 2: Who are you signed with?

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Speaker 10: Well, that's what we know. We can procure these theories,

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00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 10: but we don't need to do that.

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Speaker 2: Is that from staying it.

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Speaker 25: I won't talk about who it is because that's all

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00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 25: commercial and we'll let that run through. But all I'm

1130
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 25: just saying is we've got a proposal which is two

1131
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 25: rail compatible feries exactly as we have today on the mix,

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Speaker 25: but firies that are right size, fit for purpose, good.

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00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 10: Value for money.

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Speaker 12: Okay.

1135
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 25: And if you want us to Winston, is that as

1136
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 25: new Minister Rail, you've got till you know, you got

1137
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 25: three months or so to actually see whether you can

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00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 25: improve further on that proposal.

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00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 10: If not, that's what we're going with.

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Speaker 2: And if you went with them, when we may arrive,

1141
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 2: they'll be here.

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Speaker 25: Before twenty twenty nine, which is when we need to replace.

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00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 2: Them, okay. And are they going to cost nine hundred

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00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: million dollars together?

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00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 25: Well, we're not going to talk about any costs given

1146
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 25: those commercial sensitivities and those are decisions.

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00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 2: But this is because this is the original story that

1148
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 2: we'd heard, which Winston then denied was true, that Nikola

1149
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 2: had actually struck a deal for two fairies, and then

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00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: Winston decided no, he wanted the opportunity to try and

1151
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: see if he could better it. That actually happened.

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00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 25: Well, no, we we if you just work backwards from

1153
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 25: a timeline point of view, right, the fairies need to

1154
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 25: be replaced in twenty twenty nine. The procurement decision needs

1155
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 25: to be ultimately made. Its fine to be made at

1156
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 25: the end of March or early April, whenever it is.

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00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 25: And the reality is we've got a great proposal which

1158
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 25: we've built up with the Minister of Advisory Group with

1159
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 25: conversations with the sector. We've come back with two rail

1160
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 25: compatible faeries. So that's our default leed scenario, right. And

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Speaker 25: all I've said to Winston is a new Minister of

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00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 25: Rail and Fairness taking on a new portfolio which I

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00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 25: actually want some dedicated management a of the fery procurement process,

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00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 25: which is why we put it into a schedule for company.

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Speaker 25: And secondly, I'm unhappy with the performance of Kiwi Rail

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00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 25: in general. That actually given he's got to the end

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00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 25: of that period of time to actually see whether you

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00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 25: can improve on that solution.

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Speaker 10: Okay, Chris, just being pragmatic about it.

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Speaker 2: No, I yep, it's not the story he told us,

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00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: but I'm going to go with your story because I

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00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: prefer it.

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Speaker 10: Actually, well that is the story, just so clear.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing for summer?

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00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 25: Look hopefull you're getting into the T shirt and shorts.

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Speaker 25: And I haven't seen some of my family and friends

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Speaker 25: for a while. It's just a great chance to sort

1178
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 25: of catch up with everybody. And I hope you get

1179
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 25: a little boat and go fishing with Amanda and maybe

1180
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 25: the kids and Olivia, my daughter is coming in from overseas,

1181
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 25: which would be awesome to hang out with her for

1182
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Speaker 25: a little bit too. So just doing what I think

1183
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 25: everyone does, which is just refreshing, refueling. And until your listeners,

1184
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 25: I hope they did exactly the same thing.

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00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely as much done as possible. Hey go well,

1186
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: enjoy yourself, Merry Christmas, and we'll see you on the

1187
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Speaker 2: other side of the year. That's Chris luxon The Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister thirteen Away from Et the Mike.

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Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It'd be here the Death by a Thousand Cuts. Nevil

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00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: works luck and is being way too soft here. He's

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Speaker 2: spending more than I do earned it, and that's not

1193
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 2: fair to future our tax pays. The debt will sink us.

1194
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Speaker 2: Here's an interesting thing, right, you actually can if they

1195
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 2: wanted to, they actually could cut hard enough to get

1196
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Speaker 2: us back into surplus. And the case of that at

1197
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Speaker 2: the moment and is being celebrated around the world in

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Speaker 2: various publications. Not everybody's gonna love this example, but it

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Speaker 2: is the example of Argentina, or mate Malay with you know,

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Speaker 2: with the crazy he looks like Wolverine has basically gone

1201
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 2: and hard and tidied up the box. He shut up

1202
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: thirteen ministries, just closed them down completely, said we're not

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Speaker 2: going to spend money on that, fired about thirty thousand

1204
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 2: public servants. Public spending has been taken down by thirty

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Speaker 2: five percent. They have now had nine months of surplus

1206
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Speaker 2: in a row.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: The last time they got anywhere near even six months

1209
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 2: of surplus was about two thousand and eight. So they've

1210
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 2: managed to turn things around in terms of public spending

1211
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: massively inflation. Remember inflation in Argentina was out the gate.

1212
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 2: It was about fifty eight percent. They have now managed

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00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 2: to get it down to two point four percent. Just

1214
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: in the last like that was the number that the

1215
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 2: most recent number that came out. So if you wanted to,

1216
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 2: if you really really wanted to get this country spending

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00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: within its limits, you actually could. You just have to

1218
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 2: be brave, and I'm not seeing the bravery there, Heather

1219
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 2: read the fairies. A proposal is not a deal, so

1220
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 2: when you ask if a deal is done, then it

1221
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 2: is a no, which is a fair point Winston. I mean,

1222
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 2: these guys, it must be so frustrating to be dealing

1223
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 2: with each other around the coalition table because because we

1224
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 2: were being briefed and told yeah, there it was basically

1225
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 2: Nicola it Hammond out a deal. Yeah, and then Winston

1226
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 2: wanted to kill it. And then Winston's like, Nope, that's

1227
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,479
Speaker 2: not true, and then Lux's like, no, that is true.

1228
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Speaker 2: So I don't know, you decide who you want to

1229
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 2: believe on that. The latest on the fairies situation is

1230
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 2: that it is a little bit more complicated than we thought.

1231
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 2: Potentially the utter Teddy this is the one that rammed

1232
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 2: up onto the Sandy Bank, remember ran onto the beach

1233
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 2: that apparently needs to be retired next year because the

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00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 2: picct and Woarf. Regardless of what fairies we get, the

1235
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 2: Piccton Wolf needs to be rebuilt, and they need to

1236
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 2: start rebuilding it basically now in order for it to

1237
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: be ready in twenty twenty nine, which means the utter

1238
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 2: Teddy can't dock there anymore, so it needs to go.

1239
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 2: They also this is the expert working Remember the expert

1240
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 2: group that got together to give the government advice on

1241
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 2: the fairies said, our decision had to be made by

1242
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Speaker 2: July this year, a contract signed by October, and then

1243
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: we would be getting the fairies in time. And if

1244
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 2: they weren't to sign the contract in October, but we

1245
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 2: were going to miss out on potentially good deals. So

1246
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 2: we've possibly missed out on them. Away from mate, Heather

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Speaker 2: du Percy.

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Speaker 1: Ellen on them my costing Breakfast with the range Rover

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Speaker 1: the LA News to.

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Speaker 2: Heay, they love the program, but I think you're going

1251
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: a bit hard on the current government. They're doing wonders

1252
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 2: with what they were left with by that last and

1253
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Speaker 2: capable lot. You're not going to find a lot of

1254
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: argument for me on that one. It's a pity that

1255
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 2: a number of them can't be prosecuted. They've done to

1256
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Speaker 2: the country Cali, thanks very much. I just think that

1257
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: we can see the scale of the trouble, and I

1258
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 2: think what we need. I think there are a few

1259
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Speaker 2: of us out there thinking you've got to be going

1260
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Speaker 2: a little bit harder than this. Actually, guys, come on now,

1261
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 2: so we need to turn this around. This is not

1262
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Speaker 2: about winning their next election. Listen, just to change the

1263
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 2: subject really quickly, if you want to for a second,

1264
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 2: just see something that is absolutely incredible. Look up Chris

1265
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 2: mcclausland on Strictly Come Dancing in the UK. This guy,

1266
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 2: he's a comedian, he wones Strictly Come Dancing in the UK.

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Speaker 2: And what is amazing about this is the guy is

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Speaker 2: completely blind. Cannot see a single thing from what I understand,

1269
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 2: used to be able to see, lost his ire sight anyway.

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Speaker 2: So can you imagine how hard it is to dance?

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, dancing is hard enough when you can see,

1272
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 2: but when you can't see so much harder. So what

1273
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: his dance partner had to do was basically teach him

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Speaker 2: to dance by taking his feet in her hands and

1275
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 2: putting them where they need to be and just working

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Speaker 2: him through, bit by bit each of the moves by

1277
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Speaker 2: moving his feet. And then he had to memorize all

1278
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Speaker 2: of that and dance. Now, if you watch him knowing

1279
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 2: that he's blind, you'll kind of pick up on it

1280
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: because he is not the best dancer you've ever seen,

1281
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: but it's also incredible how he dances when he is blind.

1282
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 2: Go and have a look at it, because it's hard

1283
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: to watch it and not feel absolutely cheerful afterwards, and

1284
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 2: see like a lovely testament to what you can do

1285
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: if you just work hard enough basically at it and

1286
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 2: believe that you can.

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Speaker 22: So.

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Speaker 2: Chris mcclausland on Strictly Come Dancing, that's your happy moment

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Speaker 2: for the day. Josh Emmett, celebrity Chef, is with us.

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Speaker 2: Next we'll get some tip. Say, I'll tell you what

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Speaker 2: I'm out of ideas for Christmas. I don't know about

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Speaker 2: you get tips from him New Stig zb.

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Speaker 2: Nflovy Sharp Past eight Now. It is no secret that

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Speaker 2: the busy seasons for restaurants obviously are spring and summer,

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Speaker 2: when we're feeling good and we want to sit outside

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Speaker 2: and have a cocktail and something delicious to eat. So

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Speaker 2: as we're right in the thick of it. I thought

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Speaker 2: maybe it would be a good time to check and

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Speaker 2: see how the industry is faring. For Q two, a

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Speaker 2: survey found restaurant revenue on average was down six percent,

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Speaker 2: but improved markedly to only down about one percent for

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Speaker 2: Q three as the weather started warming up. Now, recruitment

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Speaker 2: was probably the biggest issue, and chef Josh Emmett even

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Speaker 2: put out a plea for chefs overseas to come home

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Speaker 2: and he would pay their airfare or at least help

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Speaker 2: them with it. And he's with us now, Josh, good morning.

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Speaker 22: Good morning. How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm very well, Thanks mate. Listen before we get into that.

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Speaker 2: I'm always fascinated by what people like you eat. What

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Speaker 2: have you had for breakfast?

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Speaker 22: Two coffees?

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Speaker 15: I tend not to have. I have eggs generally. I

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01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 15: mean we're a family. We love the eggs, especially my

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Speaker 15: son Louis. He makes the best scrambled eggs. So I

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Speaker 15: tend to eat eggs.

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Speaker 18: But I do.

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Speaker 15: I'm really bad.

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Speaker 22: I actually skip breakfast every now and then.

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Speaker 2: Oh is that a good thing? Because that's generally accepted

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Speaker 2: as not being a smart way to start the.

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Speaker 3: Day, is it.

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Speaker 22: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 15: I think you need to put something in your stomach,

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Speaker 15: especially if you're going to have coffees. I don't think

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Speaker 15: it's I don't think that's a great practice, you know,

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Speaker 15: But a protein in.

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Speaker 22: The morning's always good. Salmon or checking or something like that.

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Speaker 22: And vegetables. Get some vegetables in you.

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Speaker 2: You go vegetables in the morning, do you I sometimes do.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, And simple vegetables, broccoli or something like that.

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Speaker 2: How on earth are you eating a broccoli in the morning.

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Speaker 3: What are you doing to it?

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Speaker 23: Oh?

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Speaker 22: Just frying it, you know, cooking it, making it in

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Speaker 22: an olmelet or something like.

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Speaker 2: Are you chopping it up and chucking it in the

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Speaker 2: pan with a bit of oil?

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Speaker 3: Totally.

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Speaker 15: Helen makes this incredible mince as well. She makes like

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Speaker 15: a Mexican mints and we have that on toast, like

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01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 15: beef mints with spices in it, and then a Friday

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Speaker 15: egg on top of the floor.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I've got to thank you. That was basically

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Speaker 2: entirely selfish of me. I was like, what can I

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Speaker 2: how can I change up my breakfast menu? I know,

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Speaker 2: let's ask Josh. So thanks for that, Josh, I appreciate.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to try the Mints and I'm gonna try

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Speaker 2: the Brocoli now. Listen, how did it go with putting

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Speaker 2: out the shout out to the chef services? Did any

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Speaker 2: of them take you.

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Speaker 9: Up on it? Well?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I think largely the recruitment thing has sorted itself out.

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Speaker 22: You know.

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Speaker 15: I think there's there's there's definitely more staff in the country.

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Speaker 15: I've got a couple of English Kiwi Bourne chefs that

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Speaker 15: have been in the UK have recently come back and

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Speaker 15: reached out to me, which is superb. So I've got

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Speaker 15: one of those working in my businesses right now. And yeah,

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Speaker 15: I think the immigration thing is really tough.

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Speaker 22: We all know that.

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Speaker 15: You know, it's a slow process, it's a costly process.

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Speaker 15: It's a bit disorganized at the moment. So I've been

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Speaker 15: working really closely with Restaurant Associated and iron Z to try.

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Speaker 22: And get through some of those hurdles.

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Speaker 15: But we are to say we're frustrated by that process

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Speaker 15: is the understatement of the century.

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Speaker 2: I would say, what is frustrating you.

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Speaker 22: The cost, the.

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Speaker 15: Time taken with the process. You know, it can take

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Speaker 15: up to twelve weeks. We don't have twelve weeks, you know,

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Speaker 15: and that's even for simple variations. You know, you have

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Speaker 15: to be in a credits employer, which is fine, but

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Speaker 15: that should give you a pathway to a simpler process.

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Speaker 15: And it doesn't seem to want to understand that they're

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Speaker 15: underresourced as well. I mean, it's not like they're immune

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Speaker 15: to being underresourced either. So yeah, but the cost is

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Speaker 15: ridiculous and time consuming.

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Speaker 22: We just we just can't have it.

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Speaker 15: And in you we're going to remind ourselves that New

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Speaker 15: Zealand's at island nation and every young person who you

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Speaker 15: know finishes school pretty much wants to leave, and I

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Speaker 15: can't blame them.

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Speaker 22: And that's what you do. You go out and travel

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Speaker 22: the world and then potentially come back some point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so it does feel like the solution

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Speaker 2: is basically to try to get our own guys back.

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Speaker 2: Given then you don't have to go through all that

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Speaker 2: paperwork and stuff. But how do we make this place

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Speaker 2: actually desirable for them?

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Speaker 15: Well, New Zealand is a fantastic place to live, especially

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Speaker 15: for transient stuff. I think the answer is we do

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Speaker 15: need to allow more transient staff into the country that

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Speaker 15: can come down here and work and enjoy themselves and

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Speaker 15: potentially build a life here.

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Speaker 2: What about getting our own kids back. How do we

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Speaker 2: get them back? How do we make this place the

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Speaker 2: kind of place that they want to live in.

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Speaker 13: I don't know that.

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Speaker 22: I don't know that's the solution. I mean, I had no.

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Speaker 15: I didn't want to come back home, you know. I

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01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 15: never wanted to come back home. I just sort of

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Speaker 15: ended up.

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Speaker 22: Here, and I'm very happy here. You know. I had

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Speaker 22: two kids here.

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Speaker 15: You know, it's an amazing place to raise the kids.

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Speaker 22: But I never thought I was going to come home.

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Speaker 2: Why didn't you want to come home?

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Speaker 22: I just loved I.

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Speaker 15: Love living overseas. I was having a just a spect

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Speaker 15: pacular time in New York. I'd lived in London for

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Speaker 15: twelve years. I was living in for New York, between

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01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 15: New York and LA for four years, you know, and

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Speaker 15: one day I might head back out there, But I

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Speaker 15: don't know.

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Speaker 22: It was just too much fun, you know, is that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, do we maybe just need to be realistic

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Speaker 2: about it that if you're a young person and you

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Speaker 2: want to go out and you want to experience partying

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01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 2: and high life and stuff like that, we just can't

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Speaker 2: compete with the New York's and the London's and the

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Speaker 2: Paris is of the world.

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Speaker 22: Well, we probably are.

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Speaker 15: Realistically, we probably can't know.

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Speaker 22: You know, there's just so much energy and.

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Speaker 15: Creativity, and you know, as kiwis, I think we need

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Speaker 15: access to that.

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Speaker 22: You know. One of our sort of basic rules.

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Speaker 15: Of Helen and I coming back and living in New

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Speaker 15: Zealand was that will come and live in New Zealand,

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Speaker 15: will enjoy it, but we have to leave, you know,

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Speaker 15: three or four times a year. And when you can't

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Speaker 15: leave three or four times a year to go out

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Speaker 15: and be inspired and see things you do, I feel

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Speaker 15: a bit stagnant, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, listen, I want to know how business is going,

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Speaker 2: but I need to take a break. We'll come back

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Speaker 2: and ask you that question shortly. It's Josh Emmett thirteen past.

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Speaker 1: Eight the Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on.

1442
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 3: I Heard Radio cowed By News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It be right sixteen past eight and with us is

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Speaker 2: celebrity chef Josh Emitt. Now, Josh, tell me how's business going.

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01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 2: Is it starting to pick up?

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01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 3: It has?

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Speaker 15: Christmas definitely started late, but it has picked up, and

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Speaker 15: we're training pretty well. We've had a really good you

1449
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 15: know what we call summer season, holiday season, Christmas season.

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Speaker 15: So you know, the last six weeks have been really.

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Speaker 22: Really solid.

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Speaker 15: We actually had a reasonably good August. We had a

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Speaker 15: really positive August, but September and October we're definitely down.

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Speaker 22: You know.

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Speaker 15: We've got two businesses, Guilt and Onslow, which are both

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Speaker 15: in the city, you know, right in the heart of

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Speaker 15: the city, Shortened Street, just off Shortened Street, so you know,

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Speaker 15: you do feel it and you always thre in which

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Speaker 15: we've got on y Heki Island. You know, that's had

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Speaker 15: a long hard winter, you know, especially with a bit

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Speaker 15: of a lack of tourists. But you know, we spent

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Speaker 15: the time renovating that business and investing some money in it,

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Speaker 15: and so it's looking spectacular for summer. So we're hoping

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Speaker 15: for one of those lovely bumper summers with no cyclones.

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Speaker 2: Jeez, I hope. So for your sake, I've got a

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Speaker 2: text here from Mary saying, Josh is fab Guilt is gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: Now when you put Guilt in Central Auckland, right down there,

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Speaker 2: it's at the bottom of Shortland Street, isn't it on

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Speaker 2: the corner of O'Connell.

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Speaker 3: Isn't it in Chancery?

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Speaker 22: Yeah, well not in Chancery but on the corner of

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Speaker 22: Chancery Street.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so am I doing the right thing because everybody

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01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 2: talks about how that part of the world is a

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Speaker 2: little bit dead.

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Speaker 15: No, we love to see it at Central City. We

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Speaker 15: opened Onslow there just up the top of the hill

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Speaker 15: and Princess Street four and a half years ago, and

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Speaker 15: you know, we just talked about it. While I love

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Speaker 15: you know, New York and London and that sort of thing,

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Speaker 15: I love the vibeance here of the city and you know,

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Speaker 15: we'll go into those areas and make our own fun

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Speaker 15: and there's plenty of people here that are still enjoying it.

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Speaker 22: So yeah, we're really we're really confident about it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like probably you're in the right

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Speaker 2: part of the hospitality sector, right because your restaurants are

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Speaker 2: going to appeal to people who still have some disposable

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Speaker 2: cash despite how hard things are.

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Speaker 15: Would that be about right, Yeah, totally, it's definitely. You know,

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Speaker 15: we're at the higher end and when people have got

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Speaker 15: less to spend, they spend less in every aspect of

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Speaker 15: their life. You know, even the daily coffee becomes a

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Speaker 15: bit of a luxury sometimes, you know, when it's when

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Speaker 15: it's six dollars to spend.

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Speaker 22: But no, we you know, we've still got.

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Speaker 15: Regulars that come, you know, four or five, six times

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Speaker 15: a week, let alone twice a month or yeah, one

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Speaker 15: hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Do they have kitchens?

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Speaker 22: Josh, some of them I don't think cook.

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Speaker 15: No, you know, they they and they some days they

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Speaker 15: eat really simply and fast, you know, in and out

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Speaker 15: twenty minutes, stake prits. And other days are there for

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Speaker 15: four or five hours, meetings, lunches.

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Speaker 22: You know that sort of thing.

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01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 15: Uh, you know, and and and so there is there's

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Speaker 15: definitely a segment of the population that isn't overly affected.

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Speaker 22: But you know, you can see that the.

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Speaker 15: The general there's a there's a there's a large part

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Speaker 15: of the population that doesn't have the disposable income. And

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Speaker 15: we we know that. I mean it's been it's been

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Speaker 15: four years we opened our restaurants at the start of COVID.

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Speaker 15: You know, all of our restaurants have been through these

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Speaker 15: three restaurants have been through COVID and survived.

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Speaker 22: You know, So that's we should we should be happy

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Speaker 22: at least with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you can survive that, and then this will

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Speaker 2: be absolutely fine. Now tell me, are you actually mates

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Speaker 2: with Gwyneth Paltrow. Now we've lost Josh. He's just dropped off.

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Speaker 2: He's either maybe he has actually mates with Gwyneth Paltrow decided,

1521
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 2: I can't answer that question.

1522
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 16: It's ssitive, two sensitives too sensitive.

1523
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those things like it's fight club.

1524
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:57,759
Speaker 2: You don't talk about it. What happened with Gwyneth Paltrow.

1525
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,719
Speaker 2: C f YI is Gwyneth Paltrow has a crow Josh Emmett.

1526
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 2: Now I can understand that because I don't know if

1527
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 2: you know what Josh Emmett looks like, but he's a

1528
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 2: crushable kind of person. He's a good looking man. He

1529
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 2: looks like he eats a broccoli for breakfast and maintains

1530
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 2: his figure anyway. So she had a crush on him.

1531
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 2: She put it on the Instagram. She said, I've got

1532
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 2: a crush on the sky. He comes around to the US, well,

1533
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 2: he's on holiday in the US with his family, goes

1534
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 2: round to Gwyneth Paltrow's house to cook up a feast,

1535
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 2: didn't you Josh twice?

1536
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 22: That was the start of the year. It was back

1537
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 22: in April. It was the best time. You know, we

1538
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 22: were on a bit of a holiday. Then it was

1539
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:35,839
Speaker 22: the start of the year. We were a bit exhausted

1540
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:42,560
Speaker 22: after a long summer of work. And yeah, so Gwyne's incredible.

1541
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:44,560
Speaker 2: Are you guys mates now? Would you say, are you

1542
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 2: guys on each other's Christmas card list?

1543
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 22: Pretty much?

1544
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 15: I would say, you know, I have regular contact whe her.

1545
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 15: She's we love everything she does and.

1546
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 22: She's a lot of fun.

1547
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 2: Now, Josh, speaking of Christmas cards and stuff like that,

1548
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 2: what are you doing for Christmas? You got any ideas

1549
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 2: for us? Because I'm all in, I'm all out of ideas.

1550
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 3: Cooking, Yeah, I.

1551
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 15: Have to, Well, Mum's cooking for me this year, which

1552
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:13,799
Speaker 15: I'm relieved about actually. But I love, you know, Christmas

1553
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 15: hand we all do that. I love roast I love

1554
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 15: roast duck, you know on Christmas Day? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1555
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 15: But Suber like.

1556
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 2: Don't you want to because I'm feeling like I'm feeling

1557
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 2: like you want to get out of the oven. The

1558
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 2: oven is hot, right, it makes the whole house hot.

1559
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:28,799
Speaker 2: Don't you want to just chuck stuff on the barbie?

1560
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 15: That's the key we thing to Helen's English. So we

1561
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 15: do we have to have roast potatoes. We we sort

1562
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 15: of stop at Yorkshire puddings, but we we have a

1563
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:42,919
Speaker 15: real mix mixture of a North and South sort of Christmas.

1564
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 15: But yeah, I suppose the key wei thing is the barbecue, right,

1565
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 15: But I'm just so out of that, out of that

1566
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 15: segment and have been for a while.

1567
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 2: Do you know what I reckon? I reckon if you

1568
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 2: just chuck pomegranate seeds on a salad, it makes it

1569
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 2: look Christmasy and then you're you could do whatever after that.

1570
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 15: It's sort of do it sort of does, but you see,

1571
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 15: you're in the mindset of trying to make it look

1572
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 15: Christmas y and I'm in the mindset of I just

1573
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 15: want to eat good well, you know, not that I

1574
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 15: want to eat good food, but I'm like, oh, and

1575
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:12,799
Speaker 15: eat roast duck, you know, and you know, braized cabbage

1576
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 15: and turkey, and it is heavy stuff. My favorite part

1577
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 15: of Christmas Day is dessert, you know, three or four dessert, Pavlova, trifle.

1578
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 17: You know.

1579
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 15: Mum makes an amazing Christmas cake and amazing Christmas pudding.

1580
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 15: So it's sort of a grazing feast of sugar.

1581
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 2: Sounds pretty traditional. Hey, Josh, listen, Merry Christmas. Thanks very

1582
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 2: much for talking us through how things are going, and

1583
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,600
Speaker 2: I hope everything goes very well this summer, especially for

1584
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 2: the oyster and over at y He that's josh Imtt,

1585
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 2: celebrity chef. My mum makes a great Christmas cake. She

1586
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 2: turned up with it the other day full of brandy.

1587
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 2: She's because she's from South Africa. You know, like in

1588
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 2: South Africa they love a brandy and coke. I just

1589
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 2: put brandy and coke and everything. So my mom was

1590
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 2: like brandy all over the Christmas cake. Anyway, So what

1591
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 2: I did as I said to myself, I'm pregnant, but

1592
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 2: if it's in the food, I don't know that it's there,

1593
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:06,560
Speaker 2: and so I get a free pass on it. So

1594
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 2: I just gobble down that cake and I'm nervous.

1595
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 16: Sis science right, yeah, because.

1596
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 2: One of them goes into your blood and the other

1597
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,719
Speaker 2: one just goes into your tummy. If it's in the food,

1598
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 2: it works like that. Eight twenty three.

1599
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 1: Ever Dupuzy Ellen on the my Casking Breakfast with Bailey's

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01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: Real Estate News Talks.

1601
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 2: There be Yeah, the bringing the kids back to New

1602
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 2: Zealand family will be the one. The thing that always

1603
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 2: brings people back to New Zealand that can't be replaced.

1604
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 2: You probably bang on, actually you have. And also I

1605
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 2: think having your kids, like when you have your kids,

1606
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 2: you want your parents around, you want your family around,

1607
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 2: you want the cousins around. So you come back for

1608
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 2: that in great place to raise kids. Ah, now listen,

1609
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 2: I'm counsels speaking about them a little bit. Big day

1610
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 2: for Wellington City Council. So thoughts and prayers to Wellington

1611
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 2: today because when Wellington City Council gets together, it's a

1612
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 2: special day, isn't it. Because special special day to day

1613
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 2: on the seventeenth of December because it is the last

1614
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 2: Wellington City Council meeting of the year, which means it

1615
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 2: is their absolutely last opportunity to pass the long term budget. Now,

1616
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 2: the long term budget is the reason and their inability

1617
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,679
Speaker 2: to pass it is the reason that the Crown Observer

1618
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 2: got called in in the first place, and Tory said,

1619
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 2: it'll be fine, we'll do it before the summer break.

1620
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 2: We'll get it past. So this is their last opportunity.

1621
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:17,600
Speaker 2: Quite how are they going to do it? I don't know,

1622
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,560
Speaker 2: because they had a six hour meeting in November and

1623
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember, but counselors came out

1624
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 2: of that six hour meeting and went, I don't know

1625
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 2: what just happened. I think we cut the budget, but

1626
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. Something seem to we go up. I

1627
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: don't really know what's in the budget or not. So

1628
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 2: if we're dealing with this kind of thing, I don't

1629
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 2: know how they're going to vote the thing through. But

1630
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 2: maybe maybe there's a majority of them who just don't

1631
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,640
Speaker 2: care anyway. So thoughts and prayers, good luck with that.

1632
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 2: We'll see how that goes by the end of the day.

1633
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 2: News is next, and then Rod little news took ZBI.

1634
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 18: Does you and me under two?

1635
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 2: Causey little Christmas here with you?

1636
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: Me us Bold opinions. Heather duple Sea Allen on the

1637
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: Mike Hosking break List. With the range Rover villa designed

1638
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: to intrigue and use togs, there'd be.

1639
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 2: Twenty three away from nine. The Andrews situation, as in

1640
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 2: Prince Andrew with the Chinese spires obviously blowing up. In

1641
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,799
Speaker 2: the UK, here's Dan Javis, the UK Security Minister, speaking

1642
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 2: in the House.

1643
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 19: The breadth of the threats we face from foreign states

1644
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 19: are pernicious and complex, and the work of our intelligence

1645
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 19: agencies is unrivaled in mitigating them as ever, they will

1646
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 19: be pursuing those who wish to do us harm, including

1647
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:35,879
Speaker 19: those from foreign states. We support them now and always

1648
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 19: in these efforts, and they will know that at any

1649
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 19: point when the UK's national security is at risk, we

1650
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 19: will not hesitate to use every tool at our disposal

1651
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 19: to keep our country safe.

1652
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind

1653
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

1654
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 2: Rod a little out of the UK with us now,

1655
01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 2: Morning Rod.

1656
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 22: In, how you doing?

1657
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 2: I'm very well, thanks mate. Listen, do we know this

1658
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 2: guy actually got anything from Andrew?

1659
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 24: I wouldn't have thought though. I mean, this is a problem,

1660
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 24: isn't it. If you cozy up to someone who's thick

1661
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 24: as a plank, it's easy to gain their confidence, but

1662
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 24: rather more difficult to gain anything of consequence from them.

1663
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 24: It is true that Andrew has been an intermediary for

1664
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 24: British trade for the last thirty years. What is less

1665
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 24: clear is how successful that work, which is supposedly done

1666
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 24: on our behalf, has been. Basically, what it meant is

1667
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 24: that he's gone out to various desert sax wraps in

1668
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 24: Arabia and played golf a lot. He seems to have

1669
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 24: been a bit more connected with this guy, I think,

1670
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:56,799
Speaker 24: possibly because he saw him as any port in a storm,

1671
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 24: but here was someone he could actually do business is

1672
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,679
Speaker 24: and improve his image by increasing trade to Great Britain

1673
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 24: from China. Not having the slightest suspicion that this man

1674
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 24: might not be entirely what he said he was, you

1675
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 24: know that the whole problem there is the guy is

1676
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 24: sick as mint.

1677
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does seem that way keeps getting himself in trouble.

1678
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 2: I mean, look, okay, so the obvious thing that's going

1679
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 2: to happen to him is that he and Sarah are

1680
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 2: not going to be able to do the church walking Standringham.

1681
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 2: And it appears that that is happening already. But should

1682
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 2: Charles not just.

1683
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 24: He's he's not allowed a stocking this year, and that stopping.

1684
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 24: He is not allowed a stocking. He won't be allowed

1685
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 24: to play Charates with Prince Charles, with King Charles. You know, no, sorry,

1686
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 24: go on, but I mean, yeah, it was a fair and.

1687
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 2: You make the point, rod right. The point that you're

1688
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 2: making is that all of these punishments are just bits

1689
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 2: and pieces here and there are slaps on the hand.

1690
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 2: I mean, does Charles not need to just cut him

1691
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 2: out altogether, get him out of Royal Lodge and get

1692
01:17:59,280 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 2: him out of the ice.

1693
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 24: I think, I think that is I think what you've

1694
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 24: suggested is inevitable. I just don't think he can cling on.

1695
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 24: The Epstein stuff hasn't gone away, and it won't go away.

1696
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:20,799
Speaker 24: The Chinese party business is a grave embarrassment and also actually,

1697
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 24: from the other point of view, a problem between us

1698
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:27,759
Speaker 24: and China, because we do have to deal with China,

1699
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 24: and we have to What we have to deal with

1700
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 24: them at the same time is known that they are

1701
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 24: much as you do, guys. I mean, you guys know

1702
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 24: this better than we do. We need to deal with

1703
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 24: them in a way which is productive for both of us,

1704
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 24: but which also keeps them at arm's lengths. And you

1705
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 24: know that is a difficult line to tread, and it's

1706
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 24: not something you would ever entrust to a meetthead like

1707
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 24: Prince Andrew. So I think he's I think he's gone

1708
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 24: basically as as a as a meaningful player as a

1709
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 24: member of the royal family. Nobody wants him, particularly not

1710
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 24: his brother.

1711
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 22: No.

1712
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 2: Right, Hey, how's things going with the EU? It looks

1713
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 2: like it's getting a bit harry.

1714
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 24: With the what sorry I missed out, that's sorry.

1715
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:12,679
Speaker 3: The EU.

1716
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 24: With the EU, well, it's going to be a problem.

1717
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 24: There is no doubt whatsoever that we need to improve

1718
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 24: our relationship with the European edion. But it's also there's

1719
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 24: not much doubt that the bad relationship was at least

1720
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 24: sixty percent, I would say, a consequence of the EU

1721
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:41,799
Speaker 24: being very hostile once we've left the EU in twenty sixteen.

1722
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 24: It's also true that we haven't made the best of

1723
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 24: our opportunities in the world beyond the EU. You know,

1724
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 24: we haven't really reached out to you guys in Australia

1725
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 24: in the way that we should apar from on defense.

1726
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 24: You know, we really haven't. So there is a case

1727
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 24: for improving our relationship with the EU if, however, and

1728
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 24: this is I think it's a red line in the

1729
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 24: red line in the sun. Do we have red lines

1730
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 24: in the sound anyway? This is a line in the

1731
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:16,679
Speaker 24: sound If it involves signing up to the European Court

1732
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 24: of Justice, No, that will provoke fury. And yet it

1733
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 24: seems to be the way in which Sakir star War

1734
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Speaker 24: is going.

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Speaker 2: Hey Rod, it is good to talk to you, mate.

1736
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 2: I really appreciate you look after yourself. And there's Rod Little,

1737
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 2: UK correspondent, Oh yeah, here to keep an eye on

1738
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 2: Canada at last. The government may be disintegrating. Oh Dearnes, jeez,

1739
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:40,759
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. There will be a Christmas present.

1740
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but you know how, sometimes there

1741
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 2: are people you come across them. You don't even have

1742
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 2: to come across them, ir l in real life. You

1743
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 2: just have to come across them on a thedo and

1744
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 2: you go, oh, you are irritating, aren't you? And that

1745
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 2: is Justin Trudeau to me, irritates the hell out of me.

1746
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 2: I think it's as I think it's a sissy girl voice.

1747
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 2: I think I sound like more of a man than

1748
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 2: Justin Trudeau does. And that's weird, isn't it. Anyway, So

1749
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 2: Justin Trudeau irritates the hell out of me, and so

1750
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 2: as a result, I'm not altogether unhappy to see that

1751
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 2: things are falling apart from him for him, because I

1752
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 2: quite like him to just get out of my life,

1753
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 2: because I stumble across them occasionally on websites like the BBC.

1754
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 2: So what's happened is that Canada's finance minister has quit

1755
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 2: now she says, well, that's a big deal. I mean,

1756
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 2: you think about it, sort of the equivalent being Nikola Willis,

1757
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 2: imagine I Nikola Willis was like, right, I'm quitting. I've

1758
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 2: had absolute guts full of Chris Luxon. Been fighting with him.

1759
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,600
Speaker 2: That's what's going on. I said. She's been disagreeing with

1760
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 2: Justin Trudeau on how to respond to Trump's threat of tariff's,

1761
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 2: which is a reasonably significant thing for Canada. Obviously, she

1762
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 2: also said it cuts both ways. He told her last

1763
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 2: week he didn't want her in the job anymore. So

1764
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 2: they're doing that at each other. Apparently the two have

1765
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 2: also been fighting about a policy that would have delivered

1766
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 2: about or I think, let's say about three hundred bucks

1767
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,680
Speaker 2: maybe to every othergible Canadian a check of about three

1768
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 2: hundred bucks. I've been having a fight about that as well.

1769
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 2: Now this is not good for Justin Trudeau because the

1770
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 2: Housing minister also announced he would be quitting eventually. Well,

1771
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 2: he's going to see the term out and then he's

1772
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 2: not going to seek reelection because he wants to spend

1773
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 2: time with his family. Anybody who wants to spend time

1774
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 2: with their family is lying. There's always another reason, probably

1775
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:22,560
Speaker 2: justin Trudeau. So anyway, he is hoping it hastens the

1776
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 2: end of his really irritating political career. For my own

1777
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 2: personal so it's entirely selfish. Sixteen away from known the.

1778
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Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 1: News Talks, that'd be Hey.

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Speaker 2: Get a load of this. By the way, this will

1781
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 2: make you have fomo. Bitcoin has broken more records that

1782
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 2: had a high in the last twenty four hours, briefly

1783
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 2: passing one hundred and six US dollars one hundred and

1784
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 2: six hot on one hundred and six thousand US dollars

1785
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 2: and then fell back slightly to one hundred and five thousand. Anyway,

1786
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 2: might be driven by the fact that Donald Trump said

1787
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 2: late last week that he's considering doing like a stockpiling

1788
01:22:56,080 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 2: of bitcoin similar to the Country Strategic Oil Reserve, and

1789
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 2: he does the fanboys that the bitcoin fanboys love the

1790
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 2: Trump so good. It's gone at fifty percent in value

1791
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 2: since he won the election. But anyway, this is not

1792
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 2: the end of it. Apparently bitcoin is going to hit

1793
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 2: they reckon by the end of this year one hundred

1794
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 2: and twenty thousand US dollars and maybe even one hundred

1795
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand US dollars by midnext year. So if

1796
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 2: you haven't invested, speaking for myself, probably thinking miss that boat,

1797
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 2: haven't I. So I said earlier in the program, I

1798
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 2: wanted to tell you what's going on with opioids, given

1799
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 2: that you know, we're seeing a bit of an uptick

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01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 2: in the opioid use here in New Zealand. There appear

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01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 2: to be some positive signs, potentially that the opioid crisis

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01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 2: in the US is actually burning itself out.

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01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 18: Now.

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01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've consumed any of the content

1805
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 2: about this, like Dope Sick, which was made into a film,

1806
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 2: the books about it and stuff. There's heaps of stuff

1807
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 2: out there, heaps of news articles and stuff. You can

1808
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 2: get yourself across how bad it is if you haven't

1809
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 2: been across it. But what's happening at the moment is

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01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 2: that they've seen a really sudden and quite traumatic drop

1811
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 2: off in the number of overdose deaths. So if you

1812
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 2: look at the graphs, it's going up, going up, going up.

1813
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 2: It's August last year and then whoop just comes down.

1814
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 2: And this is across all of the different kinds of

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01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 2: opioids that these kids get their hands on, and adults

1816
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 2: get their hands on, and it's not just in one

1817
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 2: place in the States here in their pockets, it's across

1818
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 2: all of the states, all of them. Since August have

1819
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 2: seen this massive drop off has come off about a

1820
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 2: sixth in the last year, and no one can explain

1821
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 2: why it is. There is no dramatic increase in prescriptions

1822
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 2: of anti addiction drugs that could explain it. There is

1823
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 2: no increase in addiction treatment that's being accessed or available

1824
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 2: to people, so people don't know.

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01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 9: What it is.

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01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 2: What they think it could be is if there has

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01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 2: been an increase in one thing, it has been the

1828
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 2: ability and the incidents of officials actually intercepting these drugs.

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01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 2: So it may be that basically and just getting a

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01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 2: lot of people out there, a lot of the officials

1831
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 2: who are actually stopping the supply of the drugs. That

1832
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 2: could be the thing. Could also potentially be that COVID

1833
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 2: is washing through and we're returning to pre COVID levels again,

1834
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 2: or and this is grim. Another possibility is that it's

1835
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 2: basically burned through the most vulnerable in the population, So basically,

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01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:08,640
Speaker 2: the people most likely to get addicted to opioids have

1837
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 2: got addicted to opioids and have died, leaving everybody else behind.

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01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 2: And everybody else has watched it happen and gone, nah, no,

1839
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 2: that's not for me. That looks like a pretty rough time.

1840
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 2: I think I might give it a miss. And that

1841
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 2: is as grim as it sounds, right, has actually happened

1842
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 2: before in the past. We saw this happen with heroin

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01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:27,600
Speaker 2: in the nineteen eighties and nineteen nineties. Whole bunch of

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01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 2: people got addicted to it and we thought, oh, this

1845
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 2: is the end of civilization. Look at look at look

1846
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 2: at all these people going weird on heroin. But it

1847
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:38,799
Speaker 2: was just vulnerable people. They did it. They they goodbye

1848
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 2: to them. I'm trying to find a nice way to say.

1849
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 2: Then they carked it and then everybody else was watching it,

1850
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 2: and everybody else went I think I might just give

1851
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 2: the Heroin a miss. That might be explaining what's going on,

1852
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,639
Speaker 2: But whatever it is, thank God, because that was horrific.

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01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:51,759
Speaker 2: Nine Away from nine.

1854
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen on the My Costing break List with

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Speaker 1: a Vida Retirement Communities News togs Head b.

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01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 2: Heather, how can you say that you've missed the boat

1857
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 2: with bitcoin and then say it's predicted to go up

1858
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 2: fifty percent in the next six months. Fair question, because

1859
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 2: in order to get into bitcoin right now, entry levels

1860
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 2: really high. So you want one of those coins, you've

1861
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 2: got to have one hundred and five thousand New Zealand

1862
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 2: American dollars. Now that's a lot to lose, right, So

1863
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 2: now you're punting on it going up fifty percent, but

1864
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 2: you're going to lose a whole lot of money off

1865
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 2: a dozen whereas once upon a time there's only five

1866
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 2: thousand dollars or something like that. So do you know

1867
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:29,600
Speaker 2: what I mean?

1868
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 16: Like, I'm not gonna yeah, but you don't have to

1869
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 16: start with a whole coin. You can just have a bit.

1870
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 2: Can you just have a bit of the coin? How

1871
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 2: small can you bit be?

1872
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 22: I don't know.

1873
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:39,719
Speaker 16: But isn't that why it's called bitcoin?

1874
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 2: You you can have as much as you want. Don't

1875
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 2: take financial advice from me. I bought sky TV shares

1876
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 2: and then they went down and they've never gone back up.

1877
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 2: So I'm terrible, very bad, very very bad advice. So

1878
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 2: what I would say is don't buy bitcoin, in which case,

1879
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 2: do the opposite. Sixteen away from.

1880
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 1: Nine trending now the chemist Warehouse, the home of big

1881
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:03,919
Speaker 1: brand vitamins.

1882
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 2: Can't even tell the time it sticks away from nine.

1883
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 2: Now listen, here's something cool for you, White Lotus. Okay,

1884
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 2: get excited if you're you're a fan, because hot off

1885
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 2: the trailer, priest, we've got the tease of you for

1886
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 2: season three this morning. It shows that season three will

1887
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 2: be as rumors headed based at a result in Thailand.

1888
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 2: Welcome to the White Lords in Thailand.

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Speaker 7: Cut.

1890
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 2: I'm on an exchange program. I'm trying to feel like

1891
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 2: something is going to come out of.

1892
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:31,759
Speaker 10: The stress management meditation.

1893
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need this.

1894
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 10: Everyone runs from pain. The poets pleasure, but they get

1895
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 10: there only to find.

1896
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 3: More pain.

1897
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 2: Some style malariz a pal.

1898
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 18: I'm gonna have to drink myself to sleep.

1899
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 2: Not really bad feeling.

1900
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 18: I almost die today. They got the room comped, don't

1901
01:27:59,640 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 18: we they?

1902
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:00,679
Speaker 10: That was cool?

1903
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:02,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, you did a great chart.

1904
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 2: How good February sixteen. Put that in the diary. You're

1905
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 2: going to watch it on neon. That's where it's going

1906
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:10,839
Speaker 2: to be, SkyTV, SkyTV, just saying.

1907
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 16: Do you love it the White Loaders?

1908
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:13,600
Speaker 2: Yes, I love it, don't you?

1909
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 22: Well?

1910
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 16: I've watched two seasons of it now and I still

1911
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 16: haven't decided, which leads me to believe that perhaps I don't.

1912
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 2: No, I think you don't, because I think I think

1913
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 2: you pretty much know from the start that you love it.

1914
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 2: I mean, season one was awesome?

1915
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 9: Did you not have that?

1916
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 2: That's not the overriding feeling.

1917
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 16: I think that annoys me is that all the people

1918
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 16: are so horrible. Yeah, there's nobody to like.

1919
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 2: No, yeah, that's the point of it.

1920
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 16: You spoke, but you sort you watch that then.

1921
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 2: Because you sort of like them, but you're sort of, well,

1922
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 2: don't you like that one who ran around, you know,

1923
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 2: the one with the big lips in season two who

1924
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 2: said are trying to murder me?

1925
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 9: That one?

1926
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 16: The one who dunk?

1927
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, spoilers. No, I didn't say anything, though, did I?

1928
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 2: You'd have to know what I'm talking about.

1929
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 16: So I'm thinking, I'm thinking she's not going to come

1930
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 16: back for this season?

1931
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 2: Oh, Glen? And then he did it? Didn't he water Dick? Anyway?

1932
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 2: So don't worry about it. Just to scrub that from

1933
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 2: your memory. It's the kind of show where you're supposed

1934
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:07,480
Speaker 2: to be conflicted about whether you like them or not, obviously,

1935
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 2: and and you're supposed to like them in the end,

1936
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 2: aren't you well a little bit like I love hating them. Anyway,

1937
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it because, let me tell you something,

1938
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to be so deep in maternity leave at

1939
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 2: that stage. It's going to be my way back to

1940
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 2: normal life through a bunch of really weird people. Glenn,

1941
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 2: we're missing hearing from you. Can you get it to?

1942
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 2: Try to take a breath.

1943
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:33,599
Speaker 16: Wasn't that just me on before?

1944
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,719
Speaker 2: I just took a breath? And what did he contribute?

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Speaker 2: He contributed annoyous people. Yeah, Angie, I don't know you

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Speaker 2: were a missing him. Hey see you tomorrow, have a

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Speaker 2: lovely day. News talks, it'd be Chrismas, because that Christmas.

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