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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty exceptional marketing

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Speaker 2: On the huddle of this This evening got David Farrakuria Polster

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Speaker 2: obviously runs Kiwi blog as well, and Rob Campbell at

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Speaker 2: Chancellor former Health New Zealand Share.

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Speaker 1: Hello lads, Hello y Rob.

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Speaker 2: How are you feeling about? It's your first time?

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Speaker 1: You're nervous?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there's two people like here. I'm very nervous.

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Speaker 3: I'll just struggle to try and get through that to JK,

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Speaker 3: sounds like it will help me If I can't, don't worry.

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Speaker 2: David will be gentle on you. David, what do you.

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Speaker 4: Make less nervous than?

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Speaker 2: Oh, everybody's less route nervous than Razer this week, even

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Speaker 2: Biden's less rute nervous than Razor. Listen, what do you make,

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Speaker 2: David of Chris Bishop's plan to flood the cities with

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Speaker 2: more housing.

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Speaker 4: I am a huge fan. And the reason then is

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Speaker 4: there's a Metra and I've been seeing it for a

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Speaker 4: few years. You have to build both up and out.

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Speaker 4: You can't just do one. If you just do urban

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Speaker 4: sprawl when you don't tenpify won't work. If the intense

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Speaker 4: to five that you don't allow more growth won't work either,

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Speaker 4: And that is like, it's actually prolifically husky does because

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Speaker 4: you really may see house prices stop here, things like

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Speaker 4: getting rid of the minimum size as the balconies might

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Speaker 4: not sey eighty thousand dollars top apartments. But also I

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Speaker 4: really like that Le's saying. Yeah, everyone's saying you need

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Speaker 4: to plan for thirty years of growth, but the key

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Speaker 4: difference is they're now saying, don't just release a couple

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Speaker 4: of years at a time. Release the thirty years now,

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Speaker 4: because that actually should see lamb pips stop. So we'll

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Speaker 4: see how it goes. But I'm it's very very possible.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The wrinkle in all of this, well, there's a bunch

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Speaker 2: of wrinkles, rob, But one of the wrinkles is who

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Speaker 2: pays for the infrastructure underneath those developments. The developers say

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Speaker 2: they don't want to, but if a push came to shaft,

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Speaker 2: do you think they would, Well.

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Speaker 3: Some developers would have the economics stacked up. But it

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Speaker 3: is a crucial issue. It's one thing to sort of

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Speaker 3: throw those regulations in space wide open or further open.

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Speaker 3: It's another thing to have the infrastructure in place that

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Speaker 3: can support that, and that's a problem not just out

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Speaker 3: on the fringe of our cities a place like Tarmaki,

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Speaker 3: but it's an issue in the inner city as well,

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Speaker 3: where it's all very well to say the infrastructure is

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Speaker 3: already there, but the infrastructure is stuffed. So there's a

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Speaker 3: much bigger issue facing the government than just this kind

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Speaker 3: of loosen up the regulations around the place and everything

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Speaker 3: will be all right. That's simply not true.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel rob about shoe box apartments?

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't think Chris Budgett lives in one. I

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Speaker 3: certainly don't. And you know, there's a role for relatively

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Speaker 3: small apartments, but there's some pretty small ones built. Again,

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Speaker 3: talking mainly about the city in Turnkey, where I live,

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Speaker 3: there are some pretty small ones built and they don't

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Speaker 3: leave very satisfactory living conditions for lots of family types.

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Speaker 3: Now for some people living on their own, may be

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Speaker 3: for small families maybe, but I don't think we sold

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Speaker 3: our housing crisis by building a lot of tiny apartments,

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Speaker 3: or indeed by checking portable homes on the back of sections.

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Speaker 3: There are some sort of short run attractions to that,

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Speaker 3: but it's not a way to address good healthy living

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Speaker 3: standards for our growing population.

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Speaker 2: Oh, David, I'm okay with it because I've lived in

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Speaker 2: a tiny apartment and I know it's just a temporary thing,

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Speaker 2: right you just it gets you on the property ladder.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a key lot. No one I think

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Speaker 4: would say that you spend forty years within a tiny apartment,

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Speaker 4: but for people their first home to get there when

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Speaker 4: you're single and you're working late and you need a

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Speaker 4: place to crash. I know some very actually quite well

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Speaker 4: off people who are really tiny houses because they prefer

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Speaker 4: that it's actually easier to maintain. Two key is that

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Speaker 4: you want to make sure you don't end up with

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Speaker 4: people stuck in these thought for decades and decades.

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Speaker 3: That's a fat You've got to watch this idea of

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Speaker 3: a property ladder too. People forget that ladders go up down,

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Speaker 3: And it's one thing to get into some of these

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Speaker 3: But you've got to remember part of the logic this

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Speaker 3: is to drive house prices down, so people buying these

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Speaker 3: things now are not on any way entering into a

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Speaker 3: ladder that's guaranteed to always go up.

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Speaker 2: No, we'll certainly we're seeing that at the moment, aren't we.

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Speaker 2: That's a fair point, all right, guys, will take a break,

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Speaker 2: come back to you.

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Speaker 2: Back of the Huddle, Rob Campbell and David Farrell. Rob

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Speaker 2: our consumer wants us to ban some beds, should we.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of some beds, I've got to

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Speaker 3: say so. I certainly wouldn't care if they were banned.

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Speaker 3: So it's not something that excodes my mind a heck

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Speaker 3: a lot. Really, if you can afford town a sun

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Speaker 3: bed and you're stupid enough to have one, I don't

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Speaker 3: have a big problem with it.

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Speaker 1: David.

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Speaker 2: I don't use these things either, but I figure if

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Speaker 2: if it brings you happiness, if it makes you happy,

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Speaker 2: what might tan? What tan do you think I've got

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Speaker 2: in the middle of bloody when I.

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Speaker 4: Yes and actually said, I think you're stupid if you

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Speaker 4: use sunbeads. They go health for us. But people have

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Speaker 4: the right to be stupid. People want to take the risk,

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Speaker 4: and you know, do as long as the institutions that

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Speaker 4: provide them are following the law, especially you. But concerning

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Speaker 4: what consumers said that some young people will.

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Speaker 2: Have been about to Yeah, that's illegal.

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Speaker 4: That comes down to enforcement.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, Robert. I don't know if you know this,

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Speaker 2: but because you were once running Health New Zealand, I

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Speaker 2: expect you to do you do they do you get

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Speaker 2: vitamin D out of a sun bed?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Crazy?

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Speaker 3: That's for clinical question. I have no idea. I certainly don't.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to find a positive and hey, listen,

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Speaker 2: what do you reckon, Rob Is Biden going to quit

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Speaker 2: after the last twenty four hours?

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Speaker 3: Look, it doesn't look to me as if he is.

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Speaker 3: I mean I watched this with the same kind of

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Speaker 3: horror and fascination that most people do like this. But

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Speaker 3: you know, I think it looks like they are actually

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Speaker 3: going to both go to the polls and it really

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Speaker 3: will be a very, very tough thing for anybody to

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Speaker 3: walk into a voting booths and have to pull one

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Speaker 3: of those leaders.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've changed my opinion, David, I reckon, he's going.

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Speaker 1: What about you?

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Speaker 4: I actually think he will go. You have to keep

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Speaker 4: defending him and saying, of course he won't go right

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Speaker 4: up until the second a different decisions made. But what

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Speaker 4: I see is how can they change the channel from this.

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Speaker 4: It's such a big thing that making some jobs announcement

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Speaker 4: won't do it. Trump being Trump probably won't do it.

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Speaker 4: So they can have weeks or months of people looking

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Speaker 4: and every time he stumbles it's going to be major news.

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Speaker 4: So I think in a week or so, as the

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Speaker 4: poles come in and they're looking pretty dismal, he will

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Speaker 4: go as captain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and also rob because he has got no room

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Speaker 2: for error. If he makes even one mistake and it's

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Speaker 2: like months that he has to get through one mistake

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Speaker 2: that looks like he's going scene, that's it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look he's sitting in a very exposed position. He

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Speaker 3: came forward to lose too many more rounds. But you know,

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Speaker 3: I have an abiding belief in the overwhelming and continuing

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Speaker 3: stupidity of a lot of electoral systems, way beyond when

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Speaker 3: you think they should be able to do better than

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Speaker 3: they do. They go on, and I think this is

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Speaker 3: an example of one that could well do.

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Speaker 2: David, you a Rugby fan, of course, Okay, do you

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Speaker 2: think it was the right call to put Demo in

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Speaker 2: over body?

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Speaker 4: Actually?

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Speaker 3: I do think that is.

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Speaker 4: I think so Jaka touched on that lot. If you

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Speaker 4: do go off and play club rugby in Japan, you're

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Speaker 4: not going to be at the same level as when

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Speaker 4: you've been playing super rugby. Nues I think he'll actually

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Speaker 4: still play. I think they won't bring him on as

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Speaker 4: an impact player, but I actually think you do want

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Speaker 4: those incentive there for people to be playing New Zellan

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Speaker 4: super rugby. It's not to punish them. If they go

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Speaker 4: off and do club rug be great on them, but

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Speaker 4: you need to make sure they're on this pot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah what about you, Rob, what do you reckon?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Look, I'm all was a bit disappointed when the

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Speaker 3: all black teams are read out and my name's not

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Speaker 3: in there, but I've gradually got used to that over

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Speaker 3: the years. So honestly, whoever raised as all back on,

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Speaker 3: it's the exact opposite for me to like if we

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Speaker 3: when we appoint a cabinet, I just regard that as

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Speaker 3: an opportunity to get stuck into a new group of people.

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Speaker 3: But when when we appoint the all black team, I

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Speaker 3: couldn't really care if Raser appointed the entire Crusader's team

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Speaker 3: as the All Black so I'd still support them. I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't be happy, but I'd be there.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 2: I love that. I love that blind faith in him.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome. Hey, guys, thank you so much. David Farah

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Speaker 2: and Rob Rob Campbell a huddle

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