1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Very interesting stuff's come out of a separate poll altogether 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: about what we're protecting is going to happen in the 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: next twenty five years. I'll run you through that shortly 4 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: right now, fourteen away from five Barry so per seeing 5 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: your political correspondence. 6 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: With us, A Barry, good afternoon. Have it right? So 7 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: the adoption laws, what do you make of this? 8 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 3: Well, I must have had my head buried in the 9 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 3: sand or something. I didn't realize there was so much 10 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 3: abuse going on with kids being brought to this country. 11 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 3: There was a woman I was reading about, Chris Takamata, 12 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 3: who's a social worker, and last May she spoke about 13 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 3: the harrowing cases that she's encountered. Between twenty nineteen and 14 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, she helped ten salmon On teenagers who 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: had managed to escape homes and slavery. She said, two 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: boys and eight girls. And she said when they arrived, 17 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: they generally told they're going to have a better life 18 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 3: over here, and then they put into slavery. And what 19 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 3: they do is they get up at five or six 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: in them they start cleaning. They do breakfast, do the wash, 21 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 3: and go to school, come home, do cleaning again, dinner, 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: and other chores, and that goes on day after day 23 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 3: after day. So AXE Associate Justice Minister Nicole McKee, who's 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 3: the sponsor of today's bill, says they can't wait to 25 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: stop this, which is why they're putting controls on the 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 3: Family Court. 27 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 4: Right now, the court can make adoption orders for applicants 28 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 4: and children anywhere in the world. We're going to limit 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 4: that power so the court generally only makes adoption orders 30 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 4: where both the child and adoptive parents live in New Zealand. 31 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 4: Mister Speaker, we are progressing this bill under urgency because 32 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 4: we cannot in good conscience stand by while children are 33 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 4: at risk. We do need to act now. I acknowledge 34 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 4: that this change won't be easy news for some families, 35 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 4: but keeping children safe is our top priority. 36 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 3: You'd have to agree with that, and I heard the 37 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: interview you had earlier. She was absolutely right totally. 38 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: What did you make of that poll out today? 39 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: It was interesting. I know the aspect that interested you 40 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: was blame, the blame, the blame game. But I'll tell 41 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 3: you what interests me is because that could well be 42 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 3: at the poll shows a hung parliament sixty apiece, but 43 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: if the Maldi party retained the six seats it currently holds, 44 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: there would be an overhang of one seat, so that 45 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: there'd be one hundred and twenty one seat in Parliament, 46 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: sixty one to the center left, sexty to the center right, 47 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 3: and it means that the Maori Party itself would be 48 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 3: probably that well not probably, would be the most powerful 49 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 3: junior party in the House because they would either determine 50 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 3: whether Labor could govern or not, so that gives him 51 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: a very powerful position. Indeed, well, I know you're going 52 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: to be talking to Chris Hopkins after five, but today 53 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: he casts out on that after the comments of Tarkutera 54 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: Ferris about minor ethnicity's campaigning for Labor and Maori seats. 55 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 5: I've made it very clear that I don't see any 56 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 5: place in New Zealand politics for that kind of sentiment. 57 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 5: We should be focused on bringing people together that rens 58 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 5: recognizing the huge contribution that all of our communities make 59 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 5: to ADADO. If Tarkuta Ferris's comments reflect the broader views 60 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 5: of the Maori Party, that would make it very difficult 61 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 5: for Labor to work with them. Before the next election, 62 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 5: we will set out very clearly which parties we can 63 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 5: and can't. 64 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: Work with See that is a big problem I think 65 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: for Labor this poll. And that's an acknowledgment obviously by 66 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 3: Chris Hopkins there. 67 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: I mean, let's be honest. Right as the numbers are, 68 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: it's not going to happen. 69 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: But it's interesting the number of overhangs you get. And 70 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: I didn't realize we've had so many. I mean this 71 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 3: current Parliament's one hundred and twenty three members. Yeah, look 72 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: at an overhang of three. It's the biggest overhang that 73 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: we've had since MMP started at nineteen ninety six. 74 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: That is fascinating. So what has my name been? 75 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: Well, the Reserve Banker Fuffel, with the resignations of the Governor, 76 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: Adrian Or and then the board chair and Neil Quigley 77 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 3: at got nearing in parliament today again Nikola willis being 78 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: in the firing line. Labour's finance spokes woman Barbara Edmonds 79 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 3: used a comment from you Heather to make a point 80 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: here she is. 81 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 4: Does she agree with Heather Duplicy Allen that says, quote, 82 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 4: it just looks like a giant cover up, doesn't it. 83 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 4: Unquote mister speaker. 84 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 6: No, although I have made clear that I'm very disappointed 85 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 6: with the way the Reserve Bank has handled this matter. 86 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 2: Is the Minister concerned about her government's management of the 87 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: public service given the number of high profile senior resignations 88 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: that have occurred since she took. 89 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 6: Office, Mister Speaker, it simply observes that in some cases 90 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 6: resignations would be better for the reputation of organizations than 91 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 6: people not resigning, staying on, defying their leadership and say 92 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 6: very racist. 93 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: Thanks, Yeah, I think that's somewhat backpard On, why to 94 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 3: tea somehow? 95 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: Hey, how good is it that Babs listens to the show? 96 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: Though, well, there you go, yeah she does. Lord pointed 97 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 3: out to it. 98 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: No, very stop ruining it, Stop ruining the moment you're. 99 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 3: In, Hansards and now forever in a day follow me. 100 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: And Babs connected fe but thank you Barry Barry so 101 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: for senior political correspondent. 102 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 103 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 104 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.