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Speaker 1: the big issues, the big controversies and the big conversations.

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Speaker 2: Currely, good afternoon, welcoming to the Sevenday edition of Weekend

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Speaker 2: Sport on News Talks d B. For June twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Happy birthday to Manus lover Shane, who celebrated a day

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Speaker 2: early yesterday in the UK.

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Speaker 3: He sat down the ground. Oh unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: Is incredible, love of Shane.

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Speaker 1: That is one of the greatest catches you'll ever see.

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Speaker 2: It's actually one of the greatest catchers you will ever see.

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Speaker 2: It is outrageous. If you ever't checked it out, just

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Speaker 2: google Manus. You don't even have to know really how

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Speaker 2: to spell us soon. I'm just sort of have a

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Speaker 2: crack at it. You'll get there eventually. Happy Birthday, Manus

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Speaker 2: seventeen test All black Sea only low born on this

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Speaker 2: day as well. In nineteen eighty one, he tragically passed

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Speaker 2: away far too young. In twenty seventeen. I'm Jason Pine

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Speaker 2: show producer Any McDonald here as well. We're talking sport

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Speaker 2: till three Super Rugby Pacific Grand Final tonight Eden Park,

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Speaker 2: five past seven live on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio with

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Speaker 2: our commentary team Elliot Smith, A Strawn, Nathan Limb Blues v. Chiefs,

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Speaker 2: Caleb Clark out of the Blues after one. Jimmy Tupoor

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Speaker 2: from the Chiefs camp as well. I would love your

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Speaker 2: thoughts and predictions too, particularly those of you with skin

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Speaker 2: not to have any invested interest in this, because I'd

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Speaker 2: I can kind of just enjoy this now for what

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Speaker 2: Blues Chiefs, if you do have skin in this game,

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Speaker 2: I'd be keen to hear how you're feeling. What are

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Speaker 2: First up today, though the future shape of cricket has

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Speaker 2: further encroachment of T twenty franchise leagues onto the international

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Speaker 2: cricketing landscape. How does international cricket retain relevance outside of

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Speaker 2: pinnacle events outside of World Cups? And will bilateral series

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Speaker 2: between countries continue to be attractive to fans, to broadcasters

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Speaker 2: and even to the players themselves. ICEC chair Greg Barclay

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Speaker 2: cricket issues as well. Your thoughts are warmly encouraged other

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Speaker 2: Coast five o'clock this afternoon. New Zealand said that folds

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Speaker 2: nicely into the rugby, doesn't it. If you want to

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Speaker 2: go rugby league, then Rugby Warriors assistant coach Richard ager

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Speaker 2: along this afternoon sale GP is in New York. It's

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Speaker 2: the final stop before the season finale in San Francisco

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Speaker 2: in La over the steeples. Geordy bamashafter two Adam Peacock

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Speaker 2: and his regular slot with Sporting Matters from Australia around

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Speaker 2: one forty five this afternoon Live Sport. The Super eight

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Speaker 2: stage continues at the T twenty Cricket World Cup. The

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Speaker 2: As mentioned, the big story of the week landed on Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: Caine Williamson turning down a New Zealand Cricket central contract.

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Speaker 2: So the fact that Cain Williamson's taken up this playing

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Speaker 5: It's simply the contract, which you know, for the rules

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Speaker 2: Work and just to finish. Greg, if we bring it

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Speaker 2: It's an ever changing landscape for a lot of people

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Speaker 2: play in our Super Smash, because anyone who's on contracted

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Speaker 2: could now in January choose South Africa, or they could

432
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Speaker 2: choose the Aussie Big Bash, or they could choose our

433
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Speaker 2: Super Smash. And it just doesn't feel as though many

434
00:24:54,107 --> 00:24:59,427
Speaker 2: are choosing us over those oh eight hundred and ten

435
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Speaker 2: nine two ninety two on text, If you'd like to

436
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Speaker 2: make a point, Hello, Mark, here were going buddy?

437
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Speaker 8: Sorry, mate, I thought I'd to get an earlier because

438
00:25:06,827 --> 00:25:09,267
Speaker 8: I'm just getting ready to head to the airport to

439
00:25:09,627 --> 00:25:10,547
Speaker 8: head up to Auckland.

440
00:25:11,027 --> 00:25:13,107
Speaker 2: Are you just from or where are You're in?

441
00:25:13,147 --> 00:25:13,707
Speaker 9: Lot Roa?

442
00:25:13,787 --> 00:25:13,947
Speaker 8: Mark?

443
00:25:13,987 --> 00:25:15,507
Speaker 2: You're going up to the Are you going the game tonight?

444
00:25:17,107 --> 00:25:18,987
Speaker 8: That's the only plays that's the only thing that's happening

445
00:25:19,027 --> 00:25:19,467
Speaker 8: at Auckland.

446
00:25:21,227 --> 00:25:22,987
Speaker 2: I thought you might. I thought you might be checking

447
00:25:22,987 --> 00:25:25,027
Speaker 2: it on family or catching up with some old friends.

448
00:25:25,027 --> 00:25:27,227
Speaker 2: But no, straight to straight to Eden Park for you.

449
00:25:27,227 --> 00:25:29,307
Speaker 10: Mark, No, no, no, I'm going to have it as

450
00:25:29,347 --> 00:25:32,147
Speaker 10: a couple of friends. I haven't seen for since I

451
00:25:32,187 --> 00:25:34,307
Speaker 10: came back from OSSI in two sixteen. I'm going to

452
00:25:34,307 --> 00:25:36,387
Speaker 10: see a couple of them first, and then after the game.

453
00:25:36,427 --> 00:25:39,547
Speaker 10: After that good Man got a little pointing on that,

454
00:25:39,667 --> 00:25:40,147
Speaker 10: and then.

455
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Speaker 8: We can have a little talk about that catch.

456
00:25:42,747 --> 00:25:43,067
Speaker 2: Yeah.

457
00:25:43,227 --> 00:25:45,147
Speaker 11: My prediction, my prediction for the game.

458
00:25:45,747 --> 00:25:47,347
Speaker 8: I'm pretty confident with the Blues.

459
00:25:47,387 --> 00:25:49,867
Speaker 10: If their Ford pack can play like they have done

460
00:25:49,987 --> 00:25:53,067
Speaker 10: all year, I can see a fifteen to seventeen point

461
00:25:53,667 --> 00:25:57,787
Speaker 10: deficit here. As long as a captain I stayed on

462
00:25:57,787 --> 00:26:01,467
Speaker 10: the field all night with no niggling injuries with his knee,

463
00:26:01,587 --> 00:26:04,347
Speaker 10: I think the Blues will do it very, very comfortably.

464
00:26:06,147 --> 00:26:09,827
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do think their favorite Mark I've said

465
00:26:09,867 --> 00:26:12,467
Speaker 2: a lot during the week on various different shows that

466
00:26:12,507 --> 00:26:14,147
Speaker 2: I've been asked to be a part of that. I

467
00:26:14,147 --> 00:26:16,787
Speaker 2: think it'll come down to moments and who seizes those moments.

468
00:26:16,787 --> 00:26:19,147
Speaker 2: But I certainly think there is a lot stacked in

469
00:26:19,187 --> 00:26:22,307
Speaker 2: the Blues favor home advantage, an extra day's rest, a

470
00:26:22,387 --> 00:26:26,147
Speaker 2: slightly more straightforward semi final, having their captain back from

471
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Speaker 2: what looked like an eight week injury down to just

472
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Speaker 2: two so Patrick twop a lot to a big in

473
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Speaker 2: for them. Having said that, mate I think the Chiefs

474
00:26:33,507 --> 00:26:34,987
Speaker 2: have got a lot of game changes, a lot of

475
00:26:35,027 --> 00:26:37,587
Speaker 2: game changes, and if they can seize their moments.

476
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Speaker 8: Who knows one of them? One of them.

477
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Speaker 2: Absolutely on cricket, Mate, that catch, Shane, Oh yeah, ten years.

478
00:26:47,627 --> 00:26:50,107
Speaker 10: Ago, Mate, nobody would have caught that. Are these guys

479
00:26:50,187 --> 00:26:51,067
Speaker 10: now robots?

480
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Speaker 2: Well you have to ask, don't you. It's it's and

481
00:26:57,427 --> 00:26:59,867
Speaker 2: for anyone who hasn't seen it, but I'll try to

482
00:26:59,867 --> 00:27:02,107
Speaker 2: describe it. He dives full length, but that happens a lot,

483
00:27:02,147 --> 00:27:05,467
Speaker 2: but it's it's inches above the turf when he collects it.

484
00:27:05,467 --> 00:27:07,227
Speaker 2: It's remarkable, isn't it what?

485
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Speaker 8: It was absolutely brilliant.

486
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Speaker 10: You know, I watched it over and over and over again,

487
00:27:11,147 --> 00:27:12,467
Speaker 10: and I'm gonna you can't catch that.

488
00:27:14,867 --> 00:27:17,347
Speaker 2: I think he's He's as surprised as anybody out there.

489
00:27:17,387 --> 00:27:20,107
Speaker 10: Mark, I think, oh it is one of the best

490
00:27:20,107 --> 00:27:21,667
Speaker 10: catches I've probably ever seen.

491
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Speaker 8: You know, that was absolutely brilliant.

492
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Speaker 10: It really was.

493
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Speaker 2: Hey, save travels. Mark, have an awesome time tonight. Give

494
00:27:27,947 --> 00:27:29,067
Speaker 2: us a bell tomorrow if you get the chance, and

495
00:27:29,107 --> 00:27:29,867
Speaker 2: let us know how it went.

496
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Speaker 10: Okay, mate, thank you, have a good date.

497
00:27:33,027 --> 00:27:34,987
Speaker 2: There you go off to the game. Well, we'll talked

498
00:27:34,987 --> 00:27:37,827
Speaker 2: more about the rugby after after one Caleb Clark's on

499
00:27:37,867 --> 00:27:39,507
Speaker 2: the show Jimmy too poor as well, But can you

500
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Speaker 2: get your thoughts on the cricket though, I eight hundred

501
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Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty heaps throwing text. I'll get to

502
00:27:44,747 --> 00:27:47,867
Speaker 2: those in a moment. They're underway in the clash of

503
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Speaker 2: the co hosts at the T twenty World Cup the

504
00:27:50,267 --> 00:27:52,107
Speaker 2: Western He's won the toss. They've sent the United States

505
00:27:52,187 --> 00:27:56,027
Speaker 2: under bat relatively sedate start two without loss, coming towards

506
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Speaker 2: the end of the first over. I eight one hundred

507
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Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty nine nine two on text twenty five

508
00:28:00,907 --> 00:28:01,787
Speaker 2: to one back after this.

509
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Speaker 3: From Nrose to Paris.

510
00:28:06,427 --> 00:28:09,507
Speaker 1: Call on undred and eighty gen eighty weekends Ford with

511
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Speaker 1: Jason hin and GJ. Guvnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home

512
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Speaker 1: builder News Dogs'd.

513
00:28:14,867 --> 00:28:17,107
Speaker 2: Be just on twenty two and a half to one.

514
00:28:17,227 --> 00:28:19,227
Speaker 2: The United States have lost their first book at three

515
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Speaker 2: for one and the second over, batting first against the

516
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Speaker 2: West and he's in the Super eight match at the

517
00:28:22,667 --> 00:28:24,787
Speaker 2: T twenty Cricket World Cup. We're not on this anymore.

518
00:28:24,987 --> 00:28:26,907
Speaker 2: Just in case you hadn't been keeping up nowhere home

519
00:28:26,987 --> 00:28:29,467
Speaker 2: now Super Eights is as the name woul suggest the

520
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Speaker 2: top eight teams, from which the top four will go

521
00:28:32,307 --> 00:28:34,707
Speaker 2: through to the semi finals. Back to the lines in

522
00:28:34,787 --> 00:28:37,987
Speaker 2: the moment, just a couple of texts adresses. Greg Barclay

523
00:28:38,067 --> 00:28:41,227
Speaker 2: was a fine middle order batsman and excellent opening bowler

524
00:28:41,267 --> 00:28:45,387
Speaker 2: for the Holden Specials Social Cricket team, but never really

525
00:28:45,747 --> 00:28:49,067
Speaker 2: fully bent his back enough when he was bowling. Thanks

526
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Speaker 2: andrel makes sure that Grid gets that message. Mussy's pointed

527
00:28:51,787 --> 00:28:53,987
Speaker 2: they have to make a name for themselves first by

528
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Speaker 2: playing for their country. So I don't mind players going

529
00:28:57,267 --> 00:28:58,867
Speaker 2: as long as we see them for a good five

530
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Speaker 2: to eight years, hopefully us. That's such a good point

531
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Speaker 2: that a lot of them, the players, when you talk

532
00:29:03,267 --> 00:29:05,747
Speaker 2: to them about the opportunities available, say the best way

533
00:29:05,747 --> 00:29:09,067
Speaker 2: for us to get those opportunities is to play international cricket,

534
00:29:09,547 --> 00:29:13,267
Speaker 2: to be spotted on the international stage and then be

535
00:29:13,347 --> 00:29:16,467
Speaker 2: picked up for these lucrative contracts. And the vast majority

536
00:29:17,187 --> 00:29:19,787
Speaker 2: of players in the IPL and the Big Bash and

537
00:29:19,827 --> 00:29:25,067
Speaker 2: others play international cricket, don't they. But those sands are shifting.

538
00:29:26,147 --> 00:29:30,667
Speaker 2: Times are changing now. But you're so right, mus The

539
00:29:30,707 --> 00:29:32,947
Speaker 2: shop window the best shop window for a T twenty

540
00:29:32,987 --> 00:29:37,307
Speaker 2: franchise or aspiring T twenty franchise cricketer is international cricket.

541
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Speaker 2: Scotty says Super Smash poor competition can totally understand players

542
00:29:42,427 --> 00:29:44,987
Speaker 2: looking elsewhere. Scotty, I don't mind the Super Smash for

543
00:29:45,027 --> 00:29:46,987
Speaker 2: what it is. I love going along to watch it

544
00:29:47,147 --> 00:29:50,387
Speaker 2: at the basin. I love it, but it doesn't feel

545
00:29:50,427 --> 00:29:54,827
Speaker 2: as though it's top of the shopping list for freelance cricketers,

546
00:29:56,027 --> 00:29:59,987
Speaker 2: which is now the landscape within which we're living. A

547
00:30:00,027 --> 00:30:02,347
Speaker 2: cricketer will look around and be looking for a gig

548
00:30:02,387 --> 00:30:04,107
Speaker 2: in January. They can choose the Big Bash. They can

549
00:30:04,187 --> 00:30:07,747
Speaker 2: choose South African the SA twenty as it's called, or

550
00:30:07,747 --> 00:30:09,907
Speaker 2: they could choose our Super Smash and get their agent

551
00:30:09,987 --> 00:30:12,987
Speaker 2: to get in touch with whoever. I just get the

552
00:30:12,987 --> 00:30:16,427
Speaker 2: feeling more a choosing South Africa and Australia. So does

553
00:30:16,547 --> 00:30:18,867
Speaker 2: New Zealand cricket have to look at its own domestic

554
00:30:18,947 --> 00:30:21,987
Speaker 2: comp and the same way that South Africa has. I

555
00:30:21,987 --> 00:30:26,107
Speaker 2: mean goodness me. South Africa prioritized their T twenty League

556
00:30:26,187 --> 00:30:28,547
Speaker 2: last summer ahead of sending a decent side of it

557
00:30:28,827 --> 00:30:32,667
Speaker 2: here for test matches. Remember they said no, no, Our

558
00:30:32,707 --> 00:30:35,547
Speaker 2: priority at the moment is our domestic T twenty competition

559
00:30:35,867 --> 00:30:39,347
Speaker 2: because that's where the money is for us from broadcasters, etc.

560
00:30:39,707 --> 00:30:42,627
Speaker 2: And if we don't prioritize that, then they might not

561
00:30:42,707 --> 00:30:46,787
Speaker 2: be a team to play internationally because we can't afford one. Again,

562
00:30:47,747 --> 00:30:50,587
Speaker 2: times have changed. And just before we go to the lines,

563
00:30:50,587 --> 00:30:54,307
Speaker 2: interesting text here which I've seen, and I've seen this

564
00:30:54,427 --> 00:31:00,067
Speaker 2: point made a bit, not just in relation to King Williamson,

565
00:31:00,267 --> 00:31:03,347
Speaker 2: but whenever this conversation comes up and it says it's

566
00:31:03,427 --> 00:31:08,907
Speaker 2: called greed, But it's not greed, is it? It's not greed.

567
00:31:10,667 --> 00:31:14,227
Speaker 2: If someone in any industry, doesn't matter whether it's sport

568
00:31:14,387 --> 00:31:18,707
Speaker 2: or not, any industry at all, leaves one company and

569
00:31:18,827 --> 00:31:21,667
Speaker 2: goes to another company because that other company is willing

570
00:31:21,707 --> 00:31:26,227
Speaker 2: to pay them more, is that greed? It's not, is

571
00:31:26,267 --> 00:31:30,107
Speaker 2: it? It's not greed. It's making the most of your skills

572
00:31:30,147 --> 00:31:37,107
Speaker 2: and experience in a contestable market. You simply cannot blame

573
00:31:38,827 --> 00:31:45,787
Speaker 2: top level sports people for wanting to maximize the return

574
00:31:46,627 --> 00:31:49,627
Speaker 2: on the investment they've made in themselves through years and

575
00:31:49,707 --> 00:31:54,867
Speaker 2: years of hard work. Which of us would turn down

576
00:31:55,467 --> 00:31:58,827
Speaker 2: more money doing exactly the same thing? Really?

577
00:32:00,587 --> 00:32:00,747
Speaker 6: Oh?

578
00:32:00,747 --> 00:32:03,267
Speaker 2: Eight hundred eighty ten nine two nine two?

579
00:32:03,347 --> 00:32:06,867
Speaker 8: Can I felt, hey body, how are you good?

580
00:32:06,867 --> 00:32:07,267
Speaker 12: Thank you?

581
00:32:08,667 --> 00:32:08,867
Speaker 3: Right?

582
00:32:09,467 --> 00:32:11,587
Speaker 13: Blooding traders pointing, blooding traders.

583
00:32:12,187 --> 00:32:13,747
Speaker 2: Well, they're not they're not, are they feel they're not.

584
00:32:13,827 --> 00:32:16,467
Speaker 2: I mean, if you correlate it to if you correlate

585
00:32:16,467 --> 00:32:19,387
Speaker 2: it to whatever job. You know, anyone listening thinks about

586
00:32:19,427 --> 00:32:21,707
Speaker 2: their job. And there are very few people who work

587
00:32:21,747 --> 00:32:24,347
Speaker 2: in an industry which is a monopoly. So if another

588
00:32:24,907 --> 00:32:28,627
Speaker 2: company in your industry came to you and said, I Phil, mate,

589
00:32:28,627 --> 00:32:30,907
Speaker 2: we'll give you a we like what you're doing. We'll

590
00:32:30,907 --> 00:32:33,107
Speaker 2: give you twenty thirty grand more, come over here, you're

591
00:32:33,107 --> 00:32:35,667
Speaker 2: going to look at it at least, don't you.

592
00:32:35,787 --> 00:32:38,587
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, I just I was just joking, just playing.

593
00:32:38,627 --> 00:32:40,827
Speaker 2: I know you were, I know you were.

594
00:32:41,587 --> 00:32:41,827
Speaker 3: Yeah.

595
00:32:41,947 --> 00:32:43,987
Speaker 13: No, I don't think it's agreed at all. It's just

596
00:32:44,027 --> 00:32:46,107
Speaker 13: that makes sense. Like you said, I was thinking about

597
00:32:46,147 --> 00:32:48,667
Speaker 13: your future, isn't it, And securing your future for your

598
00:32:48,667 --> 00:32:54,067
Speaker 13: family and yourself and that, and yeah, I think like

599
00:32:54,307 --> 00:32:59,427
Speaker 13: was it have said about you play the international first,

600
00:32:59,467 --> 00:33:02,947
Speaker 13: and that's where the opportunity to window is open, where

601
00:33:02,947 --> 00:33:08,067
Speaker 13: you get noticed to go into these leagues. And I

602
00:33:08,067 --> 00:33:10,147
Speaker 13: think that's what you got to do rather than just

603
00:33:10,187 --> 00:33:12,627
Speaker 13: appear on the scene or just be playing some county

604
00:33:12,627 --> 00:33:17,027
Speaker 13: cricket or county cricket hope to be packed up or recognized.

605
00:33:17,067 --> 00:33:20,827
Speaker 13: But and I kind of fear, I kind of fear

606
00:33:20,947 --> 00:33:23,627
Speaker 13: your share. Your fear is a bit too with their

607
00:33:23,707 --> 00:33:28,867
Speaker 13: domestic super situation. That might in the future it might

608
00:33:28,907 --> 00:33:31,307
Speaker 13: struggle because I didn't realize when you were ratting off

609
00:33:31,307 --> 00:33:34,027
Speaker 13: all those leagues, I didn't realize there's so many around

610
00:33:34,067 --> 00:33:37,067
Speaker 13: in the around the world, because I was just thinking, Jesus,

611
00:33:37,107 --> 00:33:38,427
Speaker 13: what I know about is the IPL.

612
00:33:39,307 --> 00:33:42,027
Speaker 2: But if you wanted to fill sorry, so Phil, if

613
00:33:42,067 --> 00:33:43,707
Speaker 2: you wanted to mate you could play, you can and

614
00:33:43,747 --> 00:33:47,147
Speaker 2: some do. You can play all year round. They're structured

615
00:33:47,187 --> 00:33:49,307
Speaker 2: that way. I think they realized they're all you know,

616
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Speaker 2: if they, for example, if a franchise can't wanted to

617
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Speaker 2: try and compete against the IPL, they know that they

618
00:33:54,587 --> 00:33:57,707
Speaker 2: would just be pushing it uphill to try and to

619
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Speaker 2: try and compete with the IPL. So they say, okay,

620
00:34:00,147 --> 00:34:02,467
Speaker 2: now we won't play in you know, in April May

621
00:34:02,467 --> 00:34:05,027
Speaker 2: when the IPL is more. Instead play in June, July

622
00:34:05,147 --> 00:34:07,267
Speaker 2: or whatever is when it's our So if you wanted

623
00:34:07,307 --> 00:34:10,467
Speaker 2: to mate and players do, you could play twelve months

624
00:34:10,467 --> 00:34:12,667
Speaker 2: of the year as a as a T twenty freelancer.

625
00:34:13,827 --> 00:34:16,547
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, it's amazing, isn't it to think you can

626
00:34:16,587 --> 00:34:18,507
Speaker 13: do that now? And that's how and that's the way

627
00:34:18,547 --> 00:34:21,187
Speaker 13: it's become. But I think, what what what will happen?

628
00:34:21,667 --> 00:34:25,827
Speaker 13: Why I think you might be right with the domestic

629
00:34:25,907 --> 00:34:29,587
Speaker 13: one hour Super one struggling is because these other we

630
00:34:29,627 --> 00:34:31,707
Speaker 13: won't have the money, you know, to match these other

631
00:34:33,427 --> 00:34:36,587
Speaker 13: T twenties around the world, and you know, so the

632
00:34:36,627 --> 00:34:39,067
Speaker 13: players will go to like Kane Williams has done. I'm

633
00:34:39,067 --> 00:34:41,707
Speaker 13: not saying he's doing it simply for the money, you know,

634
00:34:41,787 --> 00:34:44,427
Speaker 13: but that's what other players will do too, Like instead

635
00:34:44,427 --> 00:34:46,547
Speaker 13: of staying here in New Zealand, they'll go, Well, the

636
00:34:46,547 --> 00:34:48,907
Speaker 13: South African T twenty, you know, going to pay me

637
00:34:48,947 --> 00:34:51,027
Speaker 13: a lot more, so I'll go over there play that.

638
00:34:51,187 --> 00:34:54,147
Speaker 13: And then the same with America Major because just imagine

639
00:34:54,187 --> 00:34:56,907
Speaker 13: how much the Americans can pay their players in the

640
00:34:57,307 --> 00:34:59,427
Speaker 13: Major League, which I didn't even know existed. And like

641
00:34:59,507 --> 00:35:01,427
Speaker 13: the cricket guy was saying that you had on at

642
00:35:01,427 --> 00:35:03,827
Speaker 13: the start, which was interesting, and he went to Dallas

643
00:35:04,507 --> 00:35:06,347
Speaker 13: and you know, I was surprised at how many team

644
00:35:06,507 --> 00:35:08,507
Speaker 13: will playing there and people and then you go to

645
00:35:08,587 --> 00:35:10,147
Speaker 13: New York. I think you said, and they actually had

646
00:35:10,187 --> 00:35:13,387
Speaker 13: a purpose built stadium. So yeah, yeah, yeah, I think

647
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Speaker 13: I think that's that'll be all what And I don't

648
00:35:15,867 --> 00:35:17,747
Speaker 13: think it's greed. I don't think it's greed, you know,

649
00:35:18,147 --> 00:35:21,027
Speaker 13: like you say, you can't blame the players for if

650
00:35:21,067 --> 00:35:22,947
Speaker 13: someone offers them a good amount of money and that

651
00:35:23,107 --> 00:35:25,747
Speaker 13: you know, and thinking of their future, and I think

652
00:35:25,787 --> 00:35:29,547
Speaker 13: that's that's what all. That's why we might struggle with

653
00:35:29,547 --> 00:35:32,427
Speaker 13: the super because we just simply won't have the money

654
00:35:32,427 --> 00:35:35,067
Speaker 13: in New Zealand, like you know, like it's only out

655
00:35:35,067 --> 00:35:38,267
Speaker 13: of loyalty and people wanting to play for the country

656
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Speaker 13: that they quite often stay as long as they do

657
00:35:40,707 --> 00:35:42,867
Speaker 13: and have done in the past. But those times are

658
00:35:42,947 --> 00:35:44,987
Speaker 13: changing now, I think, you know, people.

659
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll feel like and it's it's an interesting

660
00:35:48,827 --> 00:35:51,307
Speaker 2: one because, like we've just been saying, the best way

661
00:35:51,387 --> 00:35:55,107
Speaker 2: into franchise cricket is through international cricket. You're right, it's

662
00:35:55,187 --> 00:35:58,307
Speaker 2: very It's rare for somebody to be picked up out

663
00:35:58,307 --> 00:35:59,907
Speaker 2: of their domestic comp but it's rare for someone to

664
00:36:00,307 --> 00:36:03,347
Speaker 2: go into the IPL who hasn't played a New Zealand

665
00:36:03,427 --> 00:36:05,627
Speaker 2: player to go into the IPL who hasn't played for

666
00:36:05,667 --> 00:36:07,667
Speaker 2: New Zealand. In fact, I can't think of one. I

667
00:36:07,707 --> 00:36:10,507
Speaker 2: can't think of a New Zealand player who has played

668
00:36:10,507 --> 00:36:13,747
Speaker 2: in the IPL who hasn't played for their country. So

669
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Speaker 2: in that regard, you say, right, get I'll take a

670
00:36:17,147 --> 00:36:22,707
Speaker 2: Central New Zealand Cricket contract and I will work away

671
00:36:22,827 --> 00:36:24,427
Speaker 2: at trying to make it into the Black Caps, and

672
00:36:24,467 --> 00:36:25,707
Speaker 2: then I'm in the shop window and then I might

673
00:36:25,747 --> 00:36:28,267
Speaker 2: get picked up in the IPL. Someone like Caan Williamson,

674
00:36:28,307 --> 00:36:30,467
Speaker 2: he's done all the hard yards, he's done all of

675
00:36:30,507 --> 00:36:33,347
Speaker 2: that and now he can you know, he can basically

676
00:36:33,347 --> 00:36:36,907
Speaker 2: pick and choose, just like Trent Bolt. Now came Williamson

677
00:36:36,907 --> 00:36:38,747
Speaker 2: has said, look, I'm still very very keen to play

678
00:36:38,747 --> 00:36:42,067
Speaker 2: cricket for New Zealand. And I believe them because he's

679
00:36:42,107 --> 00:36:47,267
Speaker 2: always made himself available when when available. I mean he's

680
00:36:47,307 --> 00:36:49,067
Speaker 2: been beset by injury last couple of years, hasn't he.

681
00:36:49,107 --> 00:36:51,667
Speaker 2: So we've actually not seen a lot of Came Williamson

682
00:36:51,827 --> 00:36:58,267
Speaker 2: in the Black Caps anyway. But New Zealand Cricket and

683
00:36:58,347 --> 00:37:02,107
Speaker 2: other associations have to be flexible, have to be You

684
00:37:02,147 --> 00:37:04,467
Speaker 2: cannot fight against it. But because there will be players

685
00:37:04,467 --> 00:37:07,867
Speaker 2: who once they get that one opportunity, you know they

686
00:37:08,187 --> 00:37:09,907
Speaker 2: so they might play, you know, a handful of games

687
00:37:09,907 --> 00:37:11,787
Speaker 2: for New Zealand and T twenty get picked up in

688
00:37:11,827 --> 00:37:14,027
Speaker 2: an IPL team. Then someone from Major League Cricket says,

689
00:37:14,027 --> 00:37:15,547
Speaker 2: they come over here, then they get a big bash

690
00:37:15,547 --> 00:37:16,947
Speaker 2: and they say, well, actually it's not worth my while

691
00:37:16,987 --> 00:37:20,027
Speaker 2: having having a New Zealand cricket contract anymore. I'll forego

692
00:37:20,107 --> 00:37:23,267
Speaker 2: the chance, you know, to have one of those and

693
00:37:23,307 --> 00:37:26,227
Speaker 2: the security it provides and the possibility that I might

694
00:37:26,227 --> 00:37:27,747
Speaker 2: not get picked for New Zealand anymore, and I'll go

695
00:37:27,827 --> 00:37:31,387
Speaker 2: and plan these other franchise leagues. That is where we are.

696
00:37:32,707 --> 00:37:37,307
Speaker 2: That is where we are. T twenties like Instagram reels,

697
00:37:37,387 --> 00:37:39,827
Speaker 2: says Nick, and Test cricket is like reading a book.

698
00:37:40,267 --> 00:37:43,027
Speaker 2: Our attention spans have been decimated, hence the success of

699
00:37:43,067 --> 00:37:46,427
Speaker 2: T twenty. Nick, You're say right, you're so right. Yeah, look,

700
00:37:46,467 --> 00:37:49,547
Speaker 2: I'm quite again my exper just just me. I'd be

701
00:37:49,627 --> 00:37:52,107
Speaker 2: quite evid to sit on the bank for five days

702
00:37:52,147 --> 00:37:53,387
Speaker 2: and watch a Test match. But I know I'm not

703
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Speaker 2: in the majority.

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Speaker 8: There.

705
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Speaker 2: Your arguments but flimsy, says Jeff. Are thousands of us

706
00:37:59,387 --> 00:38:01,307
Speaker 2: stay in New Zealand to help knowing full well we

707
00:38:01,347 --> 00:38:06,347
Speaker 2: could make more money in Australia. True, correct, Jeff, I'm

708
00:38:06,467 --> 00:38:08,467
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that that money is the only thing,

709
00:38:09,267 --> 00:38:12,867
Speaker 2: but it is. It is a thing in these discussions.

710
00:38:13,387 --> 00:38:15,147
Speaker 2: Twelve and a half to one back with more after this.

711
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Speaker 1: The Tough Questions Off the Turf Weekend Sport with Jason

712
00:38:19,707 --> 00:38:24,427
Speaker 1: Tyme and GJ. Gunner Holmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builders.

713
00:38:25,267 --> 00:38:26,187
Speaker 2: Coming up nine to one.

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Speaker 14: Can the Scott Findey here you go?

715
00:38:29,347 --> 00:38:30,307
Speaker 2: Good Scott, very good.

716
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Speaker 14: That's the story. Interesting, interesting topic talking about these high

717
00:38:36,547 --> 00:38:41,507
Speaker 14: profile sportsmen, the word greedy. I don't think it is

718
00:38:41,587 --> 00:38:47,427
Speaker 14: a place. The recent thing is these high protile sports

719
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Speaker 14: men and women. What sort of lifetime that these individuals

720
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Speaker 14: have representatively to make a craft?

721
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Speaker 3: Correct?

722
00:38:57,587 --> 00:39:00,027
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a small it's a small window. Yeah, small,

723
00:39:00,427 --> 00:39:02,707
Speaker 2: small window. And people will say, well, that's their choice,

724
00:39:02,707 --> 00:39:04,947
Speaker 2: but you're right. I mean they can't make they can't

725
00:39:04,987 --> 00:39:07,747
Speaker 2: make money as a as an elle athlete beyond their

726
00:39:07,787 --> 00:39:09,187
Speaker 2: late thirties most of the time.

727
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Speaker 14: Absolutely. I mean it's business, isn't it that somebody's going

728
00:39:14,307 --> 00:39:18,427
Speaker 14: to offer a lucrative deal, which potentially means that at

729
00:39:18,427 --> 00:39:22,627
Speaker 14: the end of your your your lifespan as a high

730
00:39:22,707 --> 00:39:26,027
Speaker 14: level sportsman, or woman. Would you not take it in

731
00:39:26,187 --> 00:39:26,827
Speaker 14: less climate?

732
00:39:27,427 --> 00:39:30,147
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely I'd take it.

733
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Speaker 14: And I feel exactly the same Mabe. I think you

734
00:39:34,947 --> 00:39:38,507
Speaker 14: know that's that's a bit of a rubbish comment and

735
00:39:38,627 --> 00:39:40,747
Speaker 14: I take my head off to these sportsmen and women.

736
00:39:40,987 --> 00:39:45,387
Speaker 14: You know it's not an easy, easy seat, and good

737
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Speaker 14: on them. I mean that there's more options that they've

738
00:39:47,707 --> 00:39:52,227
Speaker 14: got now, which is fantastic. So all the best go through.

739
00:39:53,107 --> 00:39:55,267
Speaker 2: Good Man Scott, great to chat to your mate. Call

740
00:39:55,307 --> 00:39:57,627
Speaker 2: again soon. I eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

741
00:39:57,667 --> 00:39:59,507
Speaker 2: Our number will open it again after one, but probably

742
00:39:59,507 --> 00:40:01,427
Speaker 2: flick across to the rugby. I want to get your

743
00:40:01,427 --> 00:40:04,187
Speaker 2: thoughts on tonight. One interesting text though it has come through.

744
00:40:06,507 --> 00:40:09,307
Speaker 2: Where is it here? Pinty tip new Zillen Cricket and

745
00:40:09,307 --> 00:40:11,627
Speaker 2: new Zell and Raby to own the player contracts, take

746
00:40:11,667 --> 00:40:14,947
Speaker 2: a share of future earnings to support funding our domestic development,

747
00:40:15,107 --> 00:40:17,147
Speaker 2: the Premier League and the players and sell them at will.

748
00:40:17,427 --> 00:40:19,307
Speaker 2: I've already pointed out they only get to the shop

749
00:40:19,307 --> 00:40:21,347
Speaker 2: window when selected for their country. Time to add a

750
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Speaker 2: contract element that says if we pick you, we share

751
00:40:24,387 --> 00:40:28,107
Speaker 2: in your future success. Interesting of football I know is

752
00:40:28,227 --> 00:40:30,427
Speaker 2: like that in terms of who has developed the player.

753
00:40:30,947 --> 00:40:33,627
Speaker 2: As a player gets sold throughout their career, there's often

754
00:40:33,667 --> 00:40:36,627
Speaker 2: clauses in the contract that says that the club that

755
00:40:37,947 --> 00:40:41,307
Speaker 2: developed you, your junior club gets a percentage of any

756
00:40:41,347 --> 00:40:45,427
Speaker 2: future transfer. Yeah, we're thinking about Thanks for your text.

757
00:40:45,467 --> 00:40:47,067
Speaker 2: Seven to one New STALKSIB.

758
00:40:47,587 --> 00:40:52,707
Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fails weekends

759
00:40:52,747 --> 00:40:55,467
Speaker 1: for it with Jason Hine, New Stork.

760
00:40:55,267 --> 00:40:57,667
Speaker 2: ZENB four to one, good chat on the cricket. Thanks

761
00:40:57,707 --> 00:41:00,907
Speaker 2: for your calls and correspondence. Will shift our attention across

762
00:41:00,947 --> 00:41:04,347
Speaker 2: to tonight's Super Rugby Final after one o'clock. Want to

763
00:41:04,347 --> 00:41:07,107
Speaker 2: get you inside both camps. Caleb Clark all Blacks and

764
00:41:07,147 --> 00:41:10,107
Speaker 2: Blues winger set to take our call after one, followed

765
00:41:10,107 --> 00:41:14,787
Speaker 2: by Chiefs Locke Jimmy Tupoor. He can't possibly have imagined this.

766
00:41:15,107 --> 00:41:16,547
Speaker 2: He was coming back to New Zealand. We spoke to

767
00:41:16,587 --> 00:41:18,307
Speaker 2: Jimmy Tupaul little while ago on the show. He was

768
00:41:18,307 --> 00:41:20,467
Speaker 2: coming back to New Zealand just for family reasons. Didn't

769
00:41:20,467 --> 00:41:22,387
Speaker 2: really think about rugby at all. Got a call from

770
00:41:22,427 --> 00:41:24,147
Speaker 2: Clayton McMillan. All of a sudden he's playing in a

771
00:41:24,147 --> 00:41:27,187
Speaker 2: Super Rugby Final. So Caleb Clark and Jimmy tupor after

772
00:41:27,227 --> 00:41:30,947
Speaker 2: one and your thoughts on who wins Super Rugby.

773
00:41:31,667 --> 00:41:34,587
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

774
00:41:34,947 --> 00:41:36,147
Speaker 1: and after fields.

775
00:41:36,627 --> 00:41:38,467
Speaker 3: It's all on We Jim Ford.

776
00:41:38,267 --> 00:41:43,027
Speaker 2: With Jason Vain on your home of sport US Talk

777
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Speaker 2: one seven. This is Weekend Sport on News Talk eNB.

778
00:41:46,707 --> 00:41:51,867
Speaker 2: I'm Jason Pine, Andy McDonald here too, and not Andy Peacock.

779
00:41:51,947 --> 00:41:54,707
Speaker 2: Adam Peacock is with us this hour out of Australia.

780
00:41:55,187 --> 00:41:57,867
Speaker 2: Caleb Clark standing by for a chat and Jimmy twopor

781
00:41:57,907 --> 00:42:01,107
Speaker 2: as well. Blues be Chiefs Tonight at Super Rugby Pacific Final,

782
00:42:01,307 --> 00:42:04,187
Speaker 2: Eden Park. Catch a live commentary on Gold Sport and

783
00:42:04,227 --> 00:42:07,587
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio Live Sport. At the moment, the United States batting

784
00:42:07,587 --> 00:42:09,707
Speaker 2: first against the Western He's in Barbados and their Super

785
00:42:09,747 --> 00:42:11,747
Speaker 2: eight match at the T twenty World Cup sixty for

786
00:42:11,867 --> 00:42:16,907
Speaker 2: two coming towards the end of the eighth over. I

787
00:42:16,947 --> 00:42:18,547
Speaker 2: think this is the first time I've ever been accused

788
00:42:18,547 --> 00:42:20,387
Speaker 2: of not giving enough airtime to football. I've got a

789
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Speaker 2: text before saying, can't believe you didn't mention Marco Staminich.

790
00:42:23,267 --> 00:42:25,907
Speaker 2: Sorry about that. If you've missed this news or Whites

791
00:42:25,947 --> 00:42:29,227
Speaker 2: midfielder Marco Stamminic has been signed by Premier League side

792
00:42:29,267 --> 00:42:31,707
Speaker 2: Nottingham Forest on a five year deal. That's the same

793
00:42:31,747 --> 00:42:35,907
Speaker 2: club that Chris Wood plays for, so terrific news for

794
00:42:35,987 --> 00:42:40,307
Speaker 2: Marco Staminich. He'll spend next season on loan at Greek

795
00:42:40,387 --> 00:42:44,227
Speaker 2: side Olympir Coos to continue his footballing development. But yeah,

796
00:42:44,227 --> 00:42:46,867
Speaker 2: a five year deal for one of the true rising

797
00:42:46,867 --> 00:42:49,507
Speaker 2: stars of New Zealand football, Marco Staminich. He's off to

798
00:42:49,587 --> 00:42:53,147
Speaker 2: Nottingham Forest eventually, but out on loan to Olympia Cos

799
00:42:53,227 --> 00:42:55,787
Speaker 2: there you go. I've mentioned it now so I can

800
00:42:55,907 --> 00:42:58,947
Speaker 2: tick that one off the list. Nine past one Super

801
00:42:59,027 --> 00:43:03,547
Speaker 2: Rugby Final tonight the Blues and the Blues well head

802
00:43:03,667 --> 00:43:07,627
Speaker 2: to the Big Dance next weekends against the Chiefs. Save

803
00:43:07,707 --> 00:43:10,747
Speaker 2: your right, does it? And for the second time in

804
00:43:10,867 --> 00:43:14,827
Speaker 2: successive seasons, the Chiefs are headed for the Grand Final.

805
00:43:15,027 --> 00:43:17,027
Speaker 2: They'll play the Blues tonight the Chiefs Eden Park. Five

806
00:43:17,067 --> 00:43:18,907
Speaker 2: past seven Life and free commentary, as I say on

807
00:43:18,987 --> 00:43:23,107
Speaker 2: Gold Sport and iHeartRadio Blues and All Blacks winger Caleb

808
00:43:23,147 --> 00:43:25,947
Speaker 2: Clark is with us on Weekend Sport. Thanks for your time, Caleb.

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Speaker 2: First of all, how much of a boost is it?

810
00:43:28,547 --> 00:43:31,027
Speaker 2: Was it to have your skipper come back into the fold.

811
00:43:31,027 --> 00:43:32,347
Speaker 2: We thought he was going to be out for about

812
00:43:32,347 --> 00:43:34,867
Speaker 2: eight weeks. He's only been gone for about a fortnight.

813
00:43:35,147 --> 00:43:37,427
Speaker 2: How much of a boost is it to have Patrick

814
00:43:37,467 --> 00:43:39,507
Speaker 2: tow we pillot to back well ahead of schedule.

815
00:43:40,667 --> 00:43:44,107
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm say it's a great boost for not just

816
00:43:44,187 --> 00:43:47,387
Speaker 15: my stuff, but so the team was quite a I

817
00:43:47,427 --> 00:43:50,107
Speaker 15: think it's also the surprise the public, but the surprise

818
00:43:50,187 --> 00:43:54,107
Speaker 15: the players as well on that Monday meeting. So yeah,

819
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Speaker 15: it's just so cool and awesome to see that, you know,

820
00:43:56,667 --> 00:43:59,067
Speaker 15: a young player, still one of the more experienced and

821
00:43:59,147 --> 00:44:02,707
Speaker 15: senior players, putting his body on the line and yeah,

822
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Speaker 15: coming back and making a miraculous healing, the miracle the

823
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Speaker 15: real So how good? Yeah?

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00:44:08,947 --> 00:44:09,107
Speaker 7: Good?

825
00:44:09,147 --> 00:44:13,787
Speaker 2: Indeed, powers of recovery obviously run pretty strongly in the

826
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Speaker 2: two We pull or two family. Your favorites for this

827
00:44:16,147 --> 00:44:18,507
Speaker 2: game tonight, Cayleb. But I don't think there's any way

828
00:44:18,507 --> 00:44:20,867
Speaker 2: of getting away from that. Is that a tag that

829
00:44:20,947 --> 00:44:24,027
Speaker 2: sits comfortably with the Blues to be favorites going into tonight?

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00:44:26,067 --> 00:44:28,347
Speaker 16: Ah?

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Speaker 15: Well, I don't think us as players are really focusing

832
00:44:30,907 --> 00:44:34,027
Speaker 15: on that. We know that's what sort of outside noise,

833
00:44:34,067 --> 00:44:36,747
Speaker 15: and we had early from burn throughout the week is

834
00:44:36,747 --> 00:44:38,227
Speaker 15: we don't want to listen to anyone. All we've got

835
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Speaker 15: to do is just listen to the circle and what

836
00:44:40,107 --> 00:44:42,747
Speaker 15: our leaders and our coaches and what each other is

837
00:44:42,747 --> 00:44:46,667
Speaker 15: saying to each other's saying to us. So you know,

838
00:44:46,707 --> 00:44:49,387
Speaker 15: I think, you know, if people can say what they

839
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Speaker 15: want to say, but it's ultimately going to be the

840
00:44:51,507 --> 00:44:53,907
Speaker 15: best team on the night that's going to win. And

841
00:44:53,947 --> 00:44:55,427
Speaker 15: we just got to go out there and focus on

842
00:44:55,467 --> 00:44:58,147
Speaker 15: our roles and what we want to impose and yeah,

843
00:44:58,267 --> 00:44:59,787
Speaker 15: just get ready for what they're going to throw back.

844
00:45:00,107 --> 00:45:02,347
Speaker 2: So tell us about the conversations that have been had

845
00:45:02,387 --> 00:45:05,627
Speaker 2: this week from coaches to players in the playing group.

846
00:45:06,427 --> 00:45:09,227
Speaker 2: What have been the main focus is ahead of the

847
00:45:09,267 --> 00:45:11,827
Speaker 2: Grand Final, just.

848
00:45:11,787 --> 00:45:12,667
Speaker 7: Sticking to our game.

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00:45:12,747 --> 00:45:14,947
Speaker 15: You know, we've we've created a style that that really

850
00:45:14,987 --> 00:45:17,187
Speaker 15: suits us as players and suits the playing group. And

851
00:45:17,267 --> 00:45:21,507
Speaker 15: so that's just around the starting fast, making sure that

852
00:45:21,547 --> 00:45:25,027
Speaker 15: we win our collisions, the getting the ball on the

853
00:45:25,027 --> 00:45:28,827
Speaker 15: front foot. So that's big emphasis on the forwards to

854
00:45:28,947 --> 00:45:30,867
Speaker 15: really try and win that battle and then for us

855
00:45:30,907 --> 00:45:33,467
Speaker 15: back just trying to finish it off because you know,

856
00:45:33,507 --> 00:45:35,627
Speaker 15: we we know the threats that they have as well,

857
00:45:35,667 --> 00:45:36,627
Speaker 15: and we need to get.

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00:45:36,547 --> 00:45:37,067
Speaker 7: Ready for that.

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00:45:37,187 --> 00:45:40,627
Speaker 15: So on defense, it's it's around connection and making sure

860
00:45:40,627 --> 00:45:41,667
Speaker 15: we're listening to each other.

861
00:45:42,507 --> 00:45:44,347
Speaker 7: But yeah, Vern just really wants us to go out.

862
00:45:44,267 --> 00:45:46,867
Speaker 15: There and do our role and that's all we need

863
00:45:46,907 --> 00:45:47,067
Speaker 15: to do.

864
00:45:47,227 --> 00:45:48,547
Speaker 7: Just focus on moment to moment.

865
00:45:48,627 --> 00:45:51,267
Speaker 15: And you know, he said to us, things aren't going

866
00:45:51,307 --> 00:45:53,387
Speaker 15: to go right and we can't we can't panic. We

867
00:45:53,507 --> 00:45:56,787
Speaker 15: just need to stick together and just focus on what needs.

868
00:45:56,587 --> 00:45:57,307
Speaker 7: To be done next.

869
00:45:57,307 --> 00:45:59,787
Speaker 15: And yeah, that's sort of the key messages throughout the week.

870
00:46:00,107 --> 00:46:03,187
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Blues game plan has been pretty clearly built

871
00:46:03,227 --> 00:46:06,347
Speaker 2: this season around establishing set piece and forward dominance, winning

872
00:46:06,387 --> 00:46:09,467
Speaker 2: those collisions. As you started getting from football, how different

873
00:46:09,587 --> 00:46:12,667
Speaker 2: has the season been for you as an outside back

874
00:46:12,787 --> 00:46:14,827
Speaker 2: compared to previous seasons.

875
00:46:15,787 --> 00:46:18,707
Speaker 15: Oh, it's quite It's quite nice getting you know a

876
00:46:18,707 --> 00:46:20,747
Speaker 15: bit of ball with space because you know, the fours

877
00:46:20,747 --> 00:46:23,107
Speaker 15: are doing all the frontwork which pulls in the defense

878
00:46:23,147 --> 00:46:25,467
Speaker 15: and then us outside get all the space.

879
00:46:25,507 --> 00:46:27,027
Speaker 7: So it's been awesome.

880
00:46:27,027 --> 00:46:29,707
Speaker 15: But you know, on top of that, Vern and his

881
00:46:29,787 --> 00:46:32,107
Speaker 15: coaching crew has been real, real helpful for me as

882
00:46:32,107 --> 00:46:35,107
Speaker 15: well personally. You know, he pulled me aside quite early

883
00:46:35,147 --> 00:46:37,067
Speaker 15: in the year and and just told me once I

884
00:46:37,107 --> 00:46:39,107
Speaker 15: come in, just just have fun and make.

885
00:46:38,947 --> 00:46:40,067
Speaker 7: Sure I'm just doing my role.

886
00:46:40,667 --> 00:46:43,747
Speaker 15: He really encouraged me to get amongst the nitty gritty stuff,

887
00:46:43,787 --> 00:46:46,227
Speaker 15: So I'm loving getting to, you know, pick and go

888
00:46:46,347 --> 00:46:48,787
Speaker 15: a couple of times, or creating space around the ruck.

889
00:46:49,187 --> 00:46:52,387
Speaker 7: I'm trying to get good front football there too. So yeah,

890
00:46:52,387 --> 00:46:53,427
Speaker 7: it's just been awesome.

891
00:46:53,187 --> 00:46:57,147
Speaker 15: So fun, and I know that everyone's really grown as

892
00:46:57,147 --> 00:47:00,507
Speaker 15: a player being under Vernon and under all the coaches.

893
00:47:00,547 --> 00:47:03,747
Speaker 15: So yeah, we're just really looking forward to winning a

894
00:47:03,787 --> 00:47:05,907
Speaker 15: performance and that, you know, we hope he will be

895
00:47:05,947 --> 00:47:07,947
Speaker 15: proud of it and send off a couple of the

896
00:47:07,947 --> 00:47:09,267
Speaker 15: boys on a good note.

897
00:47:09,467 --> 00:47:12,787
Speaker 2: You talk about growth of some players, and I look

898
00:47:12,787 --> 00:47:14,867
Speaker 2: at a guy like Harry Plumber, who I didn't think

899
00:47:14,947 --> 00:47:16,827
Speaker 2: really played it all at First five last year. I

900
00:47:16,867 --> 00:47:18,747
Speaker 2: think he might have on occasion slatted in there, but

901
00:47:18,987 --> 00:47:20,867
Speaker 2: you had body. Of course, this year he's played a

902
00:47:20,907 --> 00:47:22,987
Speaker 2: lot at First five. How have you as ceased the

903
00:47:22,987 --> 00:47:25,467
Speaker 2: way Harry Plumber's guided you around the park from the

904
00:47:25,507 --> 00:47:27,947
Speaker 2: ten Jersey, He's.

905
00:47:27,827 --> 00:47:31,067
Speaker 15: Been awesome and it's awesome to see just the growth

906
00:47:31,107 --> 00:47:32,987
Speaker 15: that he's done this year and also.

907
00:47:32,747 --> 00:47:35,747
Speaker 7: Over the years that we've all been there. We have

908
00:47:35,947 --> 00:47:36,387
Speaker 7: been here.

909
00:47:36,467 --> 00:47:39,987
Speaker 15: Sorry, Harry and I had a conversation when we're warming

910
00:47:40,067 --> 00:47:42,907
Speaker 15: up for training just well, just how long with sort

911
00:47:42,907 --> 00:47:47,427
Speaker 15: of Blues and for both of us around at eighteen nineteen.

912
00:47:48,667 --> 00:47:50,827
Speaker 8: And a tough, tough era in the Blues.

913
00:47:51,667 --> 00:47:54,707
Speaker 7: But here we are now just you know, playing for

914
00:47:54,787 --> 00:47:56,387
Speaker 7: a final and getting ready for that.

915
00:47:56,587 --> 00:47:59,467
Speaker 15: And it's just so cool getting to see him because

916
00:47:59,827 --> 00:48:03,387
Speaker 15: in our earlier years Harry was escapegoat for a lot

917
00:48:03,387 --> 00:48:06,187
Speaker 15: of people, and you know, now he gets the clap

918
00:48:06,187 --> 00:48:08,187
Speaker 15: back get people and it just shows how much of

919
00:48:08,227 --> 00:48:10,747
Speaker 15: a little man he is and how much he's grown as.

920
00:48:10,587 --> 00:48:11,267
Speaker 7: A player as well.

921
00:48:11,427 --> 00:48:14,227
Speaker 2: Yeah, very classy he's been. He's been terrific, just on body.

922
00:48:14,267 --> 00:48:16,347
Speaker 2: I saw he played some club rugby last week. Has

923
00:48:16,387 --> 00:48:18,467
Speaker 2: he been around the group and all? But I saw

924
00:48:18,507 --> 00:48:20,787
Speaker 2: some TV footage of him turning up and sort of

925
00:48:20,907 --> 00:48:23,107
Speaker 2: getting involved. Has he been around the Blues much since

926
00:48:23,147 --> 00:48:24,067
Speaker 2: he got back from Japan.

927
00:48:25,227 --> 00:48:27,787
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, he's coming a few times to help them,

928
00:48:27,867 --> 00:48:29,507
Speaker 15: especially in our team v team stuff.

929
00:48:30,547 --> 00:48:31,947
Speaker 7: I think, who are begetting either play?

930
00:48:32,067 --> 00:48:34,827
Speaker 15: And I remember distinctly he was training and I just

931
00:48:34,867 --> 00:48:39,387
Speaker 15: went who cares? So he broke through I think, and

932
00:48:39,427 --> 00:48:41,267
Speaker 15: I was like, no cares.

933
00:48:42,747 --> 00:48:44,987
Speaker 7: But he's been awesome.

934
00:48:46,187 --> 00:48:48,347
Speaker 15: He's a he's another player, you know, like like Patrick,

935
00:48:48,427 --> 00:48:50,667
Speaker 15: like Ufa who holds a lot of money on the team,

936
00:48:50,707 --> 00:48:52,867
Speaker 15: and so when he came in, it just you know,

937
00:48:52,987 --> 00:48:55,187
Speaker 15: uplifted a lot of boys, especially as young ones who

938
00:48:55,507 --> 00:48:57,707
Speaker 15: who look up to him. So yeah, it's been awesome

939
00:48:57,747 --> 00:48:59,187
Speaker 15: to see and seen around.

940
00:48:59,667 --> 00:49:02,347
Speaker 2: All Right, the Chiefs tonight. You played them not long

941
00:49:02,347 --> 00:49:04,707
Speaker 2: ago back end of the round robin. How different a

942
00:49:04,787 --> 00:49:07,587
Speaker 2: proposition do you expect the Chiefs to be to not

943
00:49:07,787 --> 00:49:09,867
Speaker 2: compared to when you played them three weeks ago.

944
00:49:11,667 --> 00:49:14,827
Speaker 15: We just expect them to throw everything at us, and

945
00:49:14,907 --> 00:49:16,587
Speaker 15: you know that's all we're prepared for. We know they

946
00:49:16,627 --> 00:49:19,027
Speaker 15: have their threats around the ball. We know you know

947
00:49:19,067 --> 00:49:21,707
Speaker 15: the big runners Wallace had had an awesome game against

948
00:49:21,747 --> 00:49:22,307
Speaker 15: the Hurricanes.

949
00:49:22,347 --> 00:49:22,907
Speaker 3: We know his.

950
00:49:22,987 --> 00:49:25,627
Speaker 15: Threats and you know Shooter might be back this week

951
00:49:25,627 --> 00:49:28,147
Speaker 15: as well, so you know we need to be on

952
00:49:28,227 --> 00:49:31,987
Speaker 15: out wise, and so yeah, that's that's sort of our mentality,

953
00:49:32,027 --> 00:49:34,947
Speaker 15: is just being prepared for whatever they throw, and it's

954
00:49:34,987 --> 00:49:38,987
Speaker 15: just about us staying connected and not panicking, just staying calm.

955
00:49:39,467 --> 00:49:41,827
Speaker 15: You know, they have some great players and great boys

956
00:49:41,827 --> 00:49:45,507
Speaker 15: that had heaps of experience in final situations. And so

957
00:49:46,867 --> 00:49:49,787
Speaker 15: for us, it's just around staying composed, staying.

958
00:49:49,547 --> 00:49:52,467
Speaker 7: Around each other, and yeah, just really doing it as.

959
00:49:52,307 --> 00:49:55,027
Speaker 15: A group because we know if we can we can

960
00:49:55,067 --> 00:49:57,427
Speaker 15: start quick and do what we plan to do, then

961
00:49:57,867 --> 00:50:00,227
Speaker 15: hopefully we won't go down to any kind of a

962
00:50:00,347 --> 00:50:01,307
Speaker 15: lot of situations.

963
00:50:01,347 --> 00:50:03,867
Speaker 7: But we just read for whatever.

964
00:50:03,627 --> 00:50:06,507
Speaker 15: They throw, and yeah, we're looking forward to the challenge.

965
00:50:06,747 --> 00:50:08,067
Speaker 2: I know there are a lot of sort of mini

966
00:50:08,067 --> 00:50:10,147
Speaker 2: battles within a game, and I look at the back

967
00:50:10,187 --> 00:50:13,507
Speaker 2: threes and man, there's some there's some firepower on both sides.

968
00:50:13,507 --> 00:50:16,707
Speaker 2: Do you look across and see at any nastro in

969
00:50:16,827 --> 00:50:19,867
Speaker 2: Moni Nadawa, Shawn Stevenson, as you say, and do you

970
00:50:19,987 --> 00:50:22,707
Speaker 2: and Mike Delayer and Stephen Peter Fett to sort of

971
00:50:22,747 --> 00:50:25,587
Speaker 2: make plans for for what they might present in terms

972
00:50:25,627 --> 00:50:26,147
Speaker 2: of a threat.

973
00:50:27,587 --> 00:50:31,107
Speaker 15: Yeah, definitely, because like we said, there's a big trips

974
00:50:31,147 --> 00:50:34,027
Speaker 15: as well, and so you know it's a big left foot.

975
00:50:34,667 --> 00:50:36,467
Speaker 15: We know, shoot, it has a big boot, and so

976
00:50:36,547 --> 00:50:39,187
Speaker 15: there's the money. So we're just trying to stay ready

977
00:50:39,187 --> 00:50:41,827
Speaker 15: for that. That sort of that's being connected around the wall,

978
00:50:42,347 --> 00:50:44,827
Speaker 15: especially on defense, that's what we want to shut down

979
00:50:44,827 --> 00:50:47,747
Speaker 15: because you know, like we saw last week, they started

980
00:50:47,787 --> 00:50:48,267
Speaker 15: off real.

981
00:50:48,187 --> 00:50:49,707
Speaker 7: Quick and it was the Money.

982
00:50:49,387 --> 00:50:52,467
Speaker 15: Breaking and breaking the line getting that quick tray straight away.

983
00:50:52,547 --> 00:50:57,227
Speaker 15: So you know, that's that's an awesome challenge. And like

984
00:50:57,347 --> 00:50:58,907
Speaker 15: you did say, it's a game within the game, and

985
00:50:58,947 --> 00:51:01,747
Speaker 15: it's always a whether you're marking up against. And so

986
00:51:02,467 --> 00:51:04,627
Speaker 15: I'm looking forward to going up against old mate and Money.

987
00:51:05,467 --> 00:51:08,627
Speaker 15: You know, he's he's great player, he's lay on his feet,

988
00:51:08,987 --> 00:51:10,947
Speaker 15: strong up top, so it's going to be a good.

989
00:51:10,947 --> 00:51:11,507
Speaker 7: Good battle.

990
00:51:12,067 --> 00:51:14,227
Speaker 2: The last time the Blues won Super Rugby are fully

991
00:51:14,267 --> 00:51:16,747
Speaker 2: fledged Super Rugby. I think you were four years old.

992
00:51:17,867 --> 00:51:20,187
Speaker 2: How all where are you of the time that's passed

993
00:51:20,347 --> 00:51:22,787
Speaker 2: since the Blues last lifted the trophy.

994
00:51:24,627 --> 00:51:27,347
Speaker 15: Yeah, definitely, that's something that's always in the back of

995
00:51:27,347 --> 00:51:29,587
Speaker 15: our minds, especially when we see the alumni come in

996
00:51:30,387 --> 00:51:32,667
Speaker 15: throughout the year. We see that the brotherhood that they

997
00:51:32,707 --> 00:51:36,387
Speaker 15: still have today and it's awesome to see Dad.

998
00:51:36,067 --> 00:51:37,787
Speaker 7: Likes to remind me here and there around.

999
00:51:37,587 --> 00:51:42,747
Speaker 15: The two championships that he won bet. So it's just, yeah,

1000
00:51:43,107 --> 00:51:45,307
Speaker 15: it's always in the back of our minds and we

1001
00:51:45,347 --> 00:51:48,267
Speaker 15: want to be like those those special Blues teams that

1002
00:51:48,307 --> 00:51:51,587
Speaker 15: have lifted a trophy in the past, and yeah, we

1003
00:51:51,667 --> 00:51:53,787
Speaker 15: have a chance to do that tonight and it's all

1004
00:51:53,827 --> 00:51:55,267
Speaker 15: about taking it each momentute at time.

1005
00:51:55,587 --> 00:51:58,547
Speaker 2: Absolutely Well, Dada Ronnie obviously part of the you know

1006
00:51:58,627 --> 00:52:01,987
Speaker 2: those two famous Blues winds ninety six and ninety seven.

1007
00:52:02,147 --> 00:52:04,827
Speaker 2: How much advice and guidance does he still provide for you,

1008
00:52:04,987 --> 00:52:06,627
Speaker 2: particularly in the you know right at the doesn't have

1009
00:52:06,627 --> 00:52:07,987
Speaker 2: seen of a season like this.

1010
00:52:09,547 --> 00:52:11,147
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, he offers a lot.

1011
00:52:11,147 --> 00:52:15,387
Speaker 17: And you know, like like any dad does, He's always

1012
00:52:15,467 --> 00:52:17,987
Speaker 17: eager to hear how training, when and how the boys

1013
00:52:17,987 --> 00:52:20,347
Speaker 17: are doing. And it's quite funny because now I'm living

1014
00:52:20,387 --> 00:52:22,507
Speaker 17: back home with him, it's it's like, oh Dad, Like

1015
00:52:23,467 --> 00:52:25,067
Speaker 17: I'm just trying to switch off to it all to

1016
00:52:25,067 --> 00:52:26,267
Speaker 17: think about rugby right now.

1017
00:52:27,867 --> 00:52:31,187
Speaker 15: You know, just just seeing his eagerness and just seeing

1018
00:52:31,187 --> 00:52:34,147
Speaker 15: how how much he cares just really shows and inspires

1019
00:52:34,187 --> 00:52:35,987
Speaker 15: me to hopefully put.

1020
00:52:35,867 --> 00:52:38,947
Speaker 7: Out the performance that I'll be proud of. And so yeah,

1021
00:52:38,987 --> 00:52:40,507
Speaker 7: he's he's really helped me throughout this week.

1022
00:52:40,547 --> 00:52:43,027
Speaker 15: He's always encouraged me just to keep doing what I

1023
00:52:43,027 --> 00:52:44,907
Speaker 15: need to do and don't need to do anymore or

1024
00:52:45,027 --> 00:52:48,027
Speaker 15: don't need to don't need to try and you know,

1025
00:52:48,467 --> 00:52:50,267
Speaker 15: play out of my skull off. It'd be great to

1026
00:52:50,307 --> 00:52:51,747
Speaker 15: play out your skin. But I don't need to try

1027
00:52:51,787 --> 00:52:53,667
Speaker 15: and put too much pressure on myself to do more

1028
00:52:53,707 --> 00:52:55,347
Speaker 15: than what I need to do, which is my job.

1029
00:52:55,387 --> 00:52:57,947
Speaker 15: And so yeah, it's an awesome heaving him him.

1030
00:52:58,227 --> 00:52:59,987
Speaker 2: I love it that he's just still like a dad,

1031
00:53:00,107 --> 00:53:01,787
Speaker 2: just like any other dad, even though he was such

1032
00:53:01,787 --> 00:53:04,827
Speaker 2: an amazing flyer himself. Uh and just to finish, kind

1033
00:53:05,027 --> 00:53:08,027
Speaker 2: just to finish kind of After this, obviously, there's an

1034
00:53:08,027 --> 00:53:09,547
Speaker 2: All Blacks team to be named. Have you thought much

1035
00:53:09,547 --> 00:53:11,667
Speaker 2: about the All Blacks during the Super Rugby season?

1036
00:53:12,947 --> 00:53:14,427
Speaker 16: Oh, not too much to this year.

1037
00:53:14,747 --> 00:53:18,027
Speaker 7: I've been quite focused on the Blues and I'm always

1038
00:53:18,067 --> 00:53:19,507
Speaker 7: that one a bit of time guy.

1039
00:53:20,427 --> 00:53:22,667
Speaker 15: But if it does happen and then on Monday Night

1040
00:53:22,707 --> 00:53:25,307
Speaker 15: comes and I get named, I'll be happy. And if not,

1041
00:53:25,347 --> 00:53:27,107
Speaker 15: then I'll just be as happy to go back and

1042
00:53:27,387 --> 00:53:29,867
Speaker 15: play for Auckland because I haven't payed for Auckland in

1043
00:53:29,987 --> 00:53:33,907
Speaker 15: twenty twenty. So you know, I'm in a space or

1044
00:53:33,987 --> 00:53:36,307
Speaker 15: headspace where I'm just always grateful for anything I did

1045
00:53:36,507 --> 00:53:38,787
Speaker 15: and happy to put on a jersey, put on some

1046
00:53:38,827 --> 00:53:40,867
Speaker 15: boots and just go and do what I love.

1047
00:53:41,387 --> 00:53:43,147
Speaker 2: Well, you've been a huge part of the Blue success

1048
00:53:43,187 --> 00:53:45,267
Speaker 2: this season, mate, All the best for the final tonight.

1049
00:53:45,307 --> 00:53:46,667
Speaker 2: Like I said, we can't wait to see how it

1050
00:53:46,707 --> 00:53:49,107
Speaker 2: plays out. Really appreciate you taking the time for a chat.

1051
00:53:49,507 --> 00:53:52,107
Speaker 2: A thanks Jason, No, thank you, Caleb. Caleb Clark there

1052
00:53:52,747 --> 00:53:55,547
Speaker 2: from the Blues camp. Let's get you straight across into

1053
00:53:55,707 --> 00:53:59,707
Speaker 2: Chiefs Country where lock Jimmy Tupoor is standing by A

1054
00:53:59,787 --> 00:54:02,147
Speaker 2: chat to U, Jimmy, thanks for your time. First of all,

1055
00:54:02,147 --> 00:54:04,627
Speaker 2: how's everyone in the Chiefs camp pulled up after your

1056
00:54:04,667 --> 00:54:07,707
Speaker 2: brutal SEEMI final went over the Hurricanes a week ago?

1057
00:54:08,827 --> 00:54:10,827
Speaker 18: Yeah, if you've bring that bodies, but you know we've

1058
00:54:10,867 --> 00:54:13,227
Speaker 18: been blessed to have a week to you know, to

1059
00:54:13,267 --> 00:54:16,187
Speaker 18: iron those out and you know we're here, are ready

1060
00:54:16,227 --> 00:54:17,507
Speaker 18: to get into our week.

1061
00:54:18,027 --> 00:54:21,227
Speaker 2: You lost Summer Sony Tokiyaho of course in that game.

1062
00:54:21,307 --> 00:54:23,867
Speaker 2: He won't be available for the final tonight. How big

1063
00:54:23,867 --> 00:54:27,947
Speaker 2: a blow is losing summersany oh?

1064
00:54:28,027 --> 00:54:29,587
Speaker 18: Sam Sony has been a big part of the team

1065
00:54:29,587 --> 00:54:32,147
Speaker 18: for a long time, and you know he's contributed a

1066
00:54:32,187 --> 00:54:34,707
Speaker 18: lot this year and you know it's it's sad to

1067
00:54:35,027 --> 00:54:37,907
Speaker 18: lose him and to intrieve it. You know, we've been

1068
00:54:37,987 --> 00:54:41,307
Speaker 18: quite blessful feating, you know, guys being able to step

1069
00:54:41,307 --> 00:54:44,547
Speaker 18: in and take the opportunities. And you know, I'm sure

1070
00:54:44,587 --> 00:54:48,867
Speaker 18: Tyrone will definitely take his opportunity tonight. And yeah, we've

1071
00:54:48,867 --> 00:54:50,827
Speaker 18: got a lot of faith in the team as a whole,

1072
00:54:50,827 --> 00:54:53,547
Speaker 18: and we know that he doesn't just take one person

1073
00:54:53,587 --> 00:54:54,467
Speaker 18: to get a result.

1074
00:54:54,787 --> 00:54:57,867
Speaker 2: How much confidence did you take away from last weekend

1075
00:54:57,907 --> 00:55:01,467
Speaker 2: winning a knockout game away from home, given that you'll

1076
00:55:01,507 --> 00:55:03,067
Speaker 2: have to do that again tonight if you're to win.

1077
00:55:04,947 --> 00:55:05,547
Speaker 8: Yeah, oh, we.

1078
00:55:05,507 --> 00:55:07,827
Speaker 18: Took a lot of confidence. But I think for us

1079
00:55:08,147 --> 00:55:10,267
Speaker 18: within our group where we've got a lot of belief

1080
00:55:10,307 --> 00:55:12,547
Speaker 18: and you know, if we get things right that you know,

1081
00:55:12,587 --> 00:55:14,627
Speaker 18: we can get results. And you know, I think last

1082
00:55:14,627 --> 00:55:17,347
Speaker 18: week was a reflection of that and if anything, that

1083
00:55:17,547 --> 00:55:21,667
Speaker 18: just you know, just probably gave us the confidence to

1084
00:55:21,707 --> 00:55:24,147
Speaker 18: know that, you know, when we get things right, you

1085
00:55:24,187 --> 00:55:27,627
Speaker 18: know the game, you know, it gives us an opportunity

1086
00:55:27,667 --> 00:55:28,587
Speaker 18: to get the results.

1087
00:55:28,787 --> 00:55:31,627
Speaker 2: It was a terrific performance in Wellington, you know, a

1088
00:55:31,707 --> 00:55:36,187
Speaker 2: really really comprehensive performance by all all of the Chiefs

1089
00:55:36,227 --> 00:55:38,947
Speaker 2: who took the field. I know there's another game to go,

1090
00:55:39,027 --> 00:55:42,187
Speaker 2: but you must have been satisfied as a playing group

1091
00:55:42,507 --> 00:55:45,027
Speaker 2: with the performance you put out in Wellington last weekend.

1092
00:55:45,067 --> 00:55:49,147
Speaker 18: Will you, oh, yeah, well we'll bloody happy mate. There

1093
00:55:49,187 --> 00:55:52,147
Speaker 18: was you know, like you said, it was a team performance, right,

1094
00:55:52,147 --> 00:55:54,667
Speaker 18: had moments in the game where they could influence it,

1095
00:55:54,747 --> 00:55:58,507
Speaker 18: and you know, we didn't go there. And well I

1096
00:55:58,547 --> 00:56:00,107
Speaker 18: felt like there was no play at that went on

1097
00:56:00,307 --> 00:56:03,587
Speaker 18: when the only thing as a collective effort, you know,

1098
00:56:03,707 --> 00:56:06,307
Speaker 18: to what was a pretty tough Hurricane team at home.

1099
00:56:07,027 --> 00:56:08,187
Speaker 16: Then yeah, like it.

1100
00:56:07,987 --> 00:56:10,947
Speaker 18: Gives us a lot of confidence gain and to tonight's

1101
00:56:10,987 --> 00:56:13,627
Speaker 18: game was you know that we can try to replicate that.

1102
00:56:13,627 --> 00:56:16,027
Speaker 18: That'll you know, stair us in a good direction.

1103
00:56:16,227 --> 00:56:17,627
Speaker 2: I know you've said a couple of times it's not

1104
00:56:17,667 --> 00:56:19,347
Speaker 2: just about one person, but can I just ask you

1105
00:56:19,387 --> 00:56:24,227
Speaker 2: about Wallace A. Titi putting in I mean again, just

1106
00:56:23,867 --> 00:56:27,707
Speaker 2: a just a remarkable performance last weekend. He didn't get

1107
00:56:27,707 --> 00:56:29,627
Speaker 2: a start for you guys until about round seven. I

1108
00:56:29,627 --> 00:56:32,867
Speaker 2: don't think. What have you made of Wallace Titi's progress

1109
00:56:32,867 --> 00:56:33,787
Speaker 2: across the season.

1110
00:56:35,147 --> 00:56:38,507
Speaker 18: Yeah, well, like I haven't had much to do with

1111
00:56:38,547 --> 00:56:41,627
Speaker 18: Wallace until we linked up with the Chiefs, and you know,

1112
00:56:41,707 --> 00:56:44,067
Speaker 18: he's you know, initially didn't get much opportunity at the

1113
00:56:44,107 --> 00:56:45,747
Speaker 18: start of the season, but you know, he's put his

1114
00:56:45,827 --> 00:56:48,027
Speaker 18: head down and worked really hard and you know, we've

1115
00:56:48,067 --> 00:56:51,667
Speaker 18: had a couple of conversations before that about just just

1116
00:56:51,667 --> 00:56:54,067
Speaker 18: putting your head down and working hard and when opportunity comes,

1117
00:56:54,107 --> 00:56:56,547
Speaker 18: you got to taken them, mate. I think last week

1118
00:56:56,627 --> 00:56:59,547
Speaker 18: was a reflection of how he's he's turned up when

1119
00:56:59,547 --> 00:57:02,347
Speaker 18: he's when he's been given opportunities. And you know, he's

1120
00:57:02,347 --> 00:57:04,027
Speaker 18: just a young man that's still a lot to grow,

1121
00:57:04,107 --> 00:57:07,387
Speaker 18: but you know, already he's shown how much potential he

1122
00:57:07,427 --> 00:57:10,387
Speaker 18: has and how much desire he want has to put

1123
00:57:10,427 --> 00:57:12,827
Speaker 18: the jersey on. And maybe it's been awesome to see

1124
00:57:12,827 --> 00:57:15,267
Speaker 18: a young guy that can take his opportunity and play

1125
00:57:15,307 --> 00:57:16,867
Speaker 18: so so well, all right, let's.

1126
00:57:16,747 --> 00:57:19,307
Speaker 2: Look at tonight. You played the Blues not long ago,

1127
00:57:19,347 --> 00:57:21,987
Speaker 2: actually last game of the round robin, the thirty one

1128
00:57:22,107 --> 00:57:25,227
Speaker 2: seventeen loss. On that occasion, where will you have to

1129
00:57:25,267 --> 00:57:26,187
Speaker 2: be better tonight?

1130
00:57:28,387 --> 00:57:31,387
Speaker 18: I think for us around, our discipline is always going

1131
00:57:31,387 --> 00:57:34,187
Speaker 18: to be key in these sorts of games because you're

1132
00:57:34,187 --> 00:57:35,747
Speaker 18: not trying to get a bonus, wants anything, You're just

1133
00:57:35,747 --> 00:57:38,947
Speaker 18: trying to win. So I think if we can look

1134
00:57:38,987 --> 00:57:40,787
Speaker 18: out for that part of the game and play on

1135
00:57:40,787 --> 00:57:42,947
Speaker 18: the right side of the field, and you know, the

1136
00:57:43,147 --> 00:57:45,187
Speaker 18: Blues are a big, physical team that are they're going

1137
00:57:45,227 --> 00:57:47,707
Speaker 18: to run through and around you. So for us, we're

1138
00:57:47,707 --> 00:57:50,867
Speaker 18: going to be really sharp around our defensive efforts and

1139
00:57:51,067 --> 00:57:53,027
Speaker 18: similar to what we did last week, we're just going

1140
00:57:53,107 --> 00:57:57,787
Speaker 18: to go deep into the phases and eventually try weel

1141
00:57:57,827 --> 00:58:00,467
Speaker 18: them out because you know, when they're going forward, they're

1142
00:58:00,467 --> 00:58:01,227
Speaker 18: pretty hard to stop.

1143
00:58:01,467 --> 00:58:01,627
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1144
00:58:01,627 --> 00:58:03,387
Speaker 2: I don't think their game plans any secret, is it?

1145
00:58:03,507 --> 00:58:06,187
Speaker 2: You know watching the Blues this season, they're they're built

1146
00:58:06,267 --> 00:58:09,227
Speaker 2: up on you know, on on the front front eight

1147
00:58:09,427 --> 00:58:11,907
Speaker 2: strong set piece, all that sort of thing. So does

1148
00:58:11,907 --> 00:58:13,667
Speaker 2: that does that excite you as a you know, as

1149
00:58:13,707 --> 00:58:15,827
Speaker 2: a member of the Chiefs type five that that you know,

1150
00:58:16,107 --> 00:58:19,307
Speaker 2: you you could be very integral tonight in how this

1151
00:58:19,387 --> 00:58:20,107
Speaker 2: all plays out.

1152
00:58:21,627 --> 00:58:23,907
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, I think any type of all that I

1153
00:58:23,947 --> 00:58:26,067
Speaker 18: think personally for me, I don't have to run too

1154
00:58:26,067 --> 00:58:30,107
Speaker 18: fast off to find a tech or carry. So you know,

1155
00:58:30,547 --> 00:58:32,627
Speaker 18: that's like you said, the big being a big part

1156
00:58:32,667 --> 00:58:35,307
Speaker 18: of the game was knocking down the front door, and

1157
00:58:35,427 --> 00:58:37,147
Speaker 18: you know for us forwards that we've got to at

1158
00:58:37,227 --> 00:58:39,707
Speaker 18: least match them around that part of the game, around

1159
00:58:39,707 --> 00:58:43,027
Speaker 18: being physical and having a strong set piece. So I

1160
00:58:43,067 --> 00:58:45,467
Speaker 18: love most games they start at set piece and then

1161
00:58:45,507 --> 00:58:47,707
Speaker 18: the four packs. So for us, We're excited. You know,

1162
00:58:47,707 --> 00:58:49,907
Speaker 18: they've they've been at the forefront of most of the

1163
00:58:49,947 --> 00:58:52,747
Speaker 18: statistics out this year and it's a good way for

1164
00:58:52,827 --> 00:58:53,707
Speaker 18: us to challenge the best.

1165
00:58:54,027 --> 00:58:56,307
Speaker 2: You oftened here that you have to lose one to

1166
00:58:56,387 --> 00:58:58,147
Speaker 2: win one. It's one of the great cliches of sport.

1167
00:58:58,187 --> 00:59:00,267
Speaker 2: I know you weren't there last year, but the Chiefs

1168
00:59:00,267 --> 00:59:02,547
Speaker 2: lost the final last year. I guess we're about to

1169
00:59:02,547 --> 00:59:04,827
Speaker 2: find out whether you have to lose one to win one.

1170
00:59:04,947 --> 00:59:06,907
Speaker 2: Do you believe in the concept? And has last year

1171
00:59:06,907 --> 00:59:09,787
Speaker 2: been talked about much with reference to this year.

1172
00:59:13,347 --> 00:59:15,707
Speaker 18: Yeah, I've had the concept, but there's nothing that I've

1173
00:59:15,707 --> 00:59:18,027
Speaker 18: really talked about or we haven't talked about as a camp.

1174
00:59:18,787 --> 00:59:20,827
Speaker 18: You know, I guess that group last year was the

1175
00:59:20,827 --> 00:59:23,267
Speaker 18: group last year, and you know this year, the group's

1176
00:59:23,267 --> 00:59:27,147
Speaker 18: been really focused on just you know every day. You know,

1177
00:59:27,227 --> 00:59:30,467
Speaker 18: we've really enjoyed this week around being able to be together.

1178
00:59:30,547 --> 00:59:33,547
Speaker 18: And you know this, every year, every team has a

1179
00:59:33,547 --> 00:59:36,507
Speaker 18: different group, and I think for us, it's just enjoying

1180
00:59:36,507 --> 00:59:39,987
Speaker 18: the moments of being together. And you know, we're here

1181
00:59:40,027 --> 00:59:43,267
Speaker 18: at the biggest stage of the season for said rugby

1182
00:59:43,347 --> 00:59:44,427
Speaker 18: and we're just going to go out there and just

1183
00:59:44,467 --> 00:59:45,147
Speaker 18: give it everything.

1184
00:59:45,427 --> 00:59:47,507
Speaker 2: And last time you played Super Rugby before this season,

1185
00:59:47,547 --> 00:59:49,267
Speaker 2: it was for the Blues actually twenty eighteen. I think

1186
00:59:49,267 --> 00:59:51,707
Speaker 2: you've been in Japan in the time since. I remember

1187
00:59:51,747 --> 00:59:53,827
Speaker 2: we spoke a short time ago on the on My

1188
00:59:53,907 --> 00:59:55,627
Speaker 2: show and you told me you came back with no

1189
00:59:55,707 --> 00:59:58,307
Speaker 2: real rugby plans Clayton McMullan rangy and said come and

1190
00:59:58,347 --> 00:59:59,627
Speaker 2: have a game. And here you are playing in a

1191
00:59:59,627 --> 01:00:04,467
Speaker 2: Super Rugby final. Is it a I mean, it's funny

1192
01:00:04,507 --> 01:00:05,667
Speaker 2: how things work out, isn't it?

1193
01:00:06,627 --> 01:00:07,427
Speaker 18: One hundred percent?

1194
01:00:07,507 --> 01:00:07,707
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1195
01:00:07,867 --> 01:00:10,587
Speaker 18: I think if you asked me if I was going

1196
01:00:10,627 --> 01:00:12,787
Speaker 18: to be playing in superque We, let alone a superregue

1197
01:00:12,787 --> 01:00:15,307
Speaker 18: We final a year ago, I wouldn't be too short

1198
01:00:16,547 --> 01:00:19,147
Speaker 18: if I would be. But yeah, mate, I really enjoyed

1199
01:00:19,187 --> 01:00:21,587
Speaker 18: the year. And you know, if they have the opportunity

1200
01:00:21,667 --> 01:00:24,067
Speaker 18: to just be a part of the team first and foremost,

1201
01:00:24,067 --> 01:00:25,827
Speaker 18: and but to be a part of the final is

1202
01:00:26,507 --> 01:00:29,667
Speaker 18: no I'm truly grateful for and one I've only experienced

1203
01:00:29,707 --> 01:00:33,547
Speaker 18: once in the past. So hopefully second time, bron we

1204
01:00:33,627 --> 01:00:34,707
Speaker 18: can keep the result.

1205
01:00:34,827 --> 01:00:35,027
Speaker 6: Yep.

1206
01:00:35,107 --> 01:00:36,787
Speaker 2: Can't wait to see how it plays out tonight. All

1207
01:00:36,827 --> 01:00:39,827
Speaker 2: the best in the Grand Final, Jimmy, thanks for taking

1208
01:00:39,867 --> 01:00:42,347
Speaker 2: the time for a chat mate, man, Thank you very much. Now,

1209
01:00:42,347 --> 01:00:44,827
Speaker 2: thank you Jimmy, Jimmy too. Paul there, Caleb Clark before him.

1210
01:00:44,947 --> 01:00:47,507
Speaker 2: There are the two camps. I who you got? Oh

1211
01:00:47,547 --> 01:00:51,427
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Blues, Chiefs and what

1212
01:00:51,587 --> 01:00:55,467
Speaker 2: swings it? If you're in either of the camps, if

1213
01:00:55,467 --> 01:00:57,667
Speaker 2: you're a Blues fan or a Chiefs fan, want to

1214
01:00:57,787 --> 01:01:00,307
Speaker 2: sort of read your mood with what I've got?

1215
01:01:00,307 --> 01:01:00,587
Speaker 18: Now?

1216
01:01:00,947 --> 01:01:03,187
Speaker 2: Was it one thirty five and a half hour? Still kickoff?

1217
01:01:03,987 --> 01:01:06,027
Speaker 2: How are you feeling if you hit it along? And

1218
01:01:06,027 --> 01:01:09,467
Speaker 2: particu if you're headed up to Eden Park from Chiefs Country,

1219
01:01:10,067 --> 01:01:11,587
Speaker 2: even if you're on the road right now, give us

1220
01:01:11,587 --> 01:01:14,587
Speaker 2: a l Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is our number.

1221
01:01:14,667 --> 01:01:17,627
Speaker 2: And if you are short of time, just let's run

1222
01:01:17,667 --> 01:01:20,867
Speaker 2: in one of our very unscientific weekend sport polls. Shall

1223
01:01:20,907 --> 01:01:23,747
Speaker 2: we on who win Super Rugby twenty twenty four? Just

1224
01:01:23,747 --> 01:01:28,467
Speaker 2: text to nine two nine two Chiefs or Blues, Chiefs

1225
01:01:28,507 --> 01:01:31,947
Speaker 2: or Blues. You can give an answer, sorry, a rationale

1226
01:01:31,947 --> 01:01:33,667
Speaker 2: if you like. But if you are short of time,

1227
01:01:33,747 --> 01:01:35,907
Speaker 2: just you can just end through a c orrabe if

1228
01:01:35,907 --> 01:01:38,067
Speaker 2: you like. We'll know what you mean. Nine two nine

1229
01:01:38,107 --> 01:01:40,547
Speaker 2: two is our number one twenty seven back with some

1230
01:01:40,587 --> 01:01:44,187
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Speaker 2: One thirty one. I've done a quick count and it

1252
01:02:53,787 --> 01:02:56,187
Speaker 2: could be inaccurate, but I think the gist of it

1253
01:02:56,307 --> 01:03:00,507
Speaker 2: is very obvious. Of the first twenty nine texts that arrived,

1254
01:03:00,787 --> 01:03:06,867
Speaker 2: one was backing the Chiefs Blues overwhelming favorites in our

1255
01:03:06,947 --> 01:03:10,387
Speaker 2: unscientific Weekend Sport poll. What do you reckon? Ted?

1256
01:03:12,227 --> 01:03:14,667
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think the Tests will win. I think they're

1257
01:03:14,707 --> 01:03:17,067
Speaker 11: going to be more composed. I think the Blues won

1258
01:03:17,267 --> 01:03:19,707
Speaker 11: too much, and I just think the Chiefs will win

1259
01:03:19,827 --> 01:03:20,787
Speaker 11: quite easily.

1260
01:03:21,067 --> 01:03:21,707
Speaker 6: Really.

1261
01:03:24,027 --> 01:03:26,987
Speaker 2: Well, So you don't you don't back the Blues to

1262
01:03:27,667 --> 01:03:30,907
Speaker 2: finish the job. They've looked quite composed in going about

1263
01:03:30,947 --> 01:03:33,307
Speaker 2: their business across the regular season and through the knockout

1264
01:03:33,387 --> 01:03:33,947
Speaker 2: so far.

1265
01:03:33,827 --> 01:03:36,787
Speaker 11: Ted, Yeah, that's just what I think. I think the

1266
01:03:36,827 --> 01:03:39,067
Speaker 11: Blues want to win too much, why they're bringing Paddy

1267
01:03:39,107 --> 01:03:41,587
Speaker 11: to back too early, and I think the Cities will

1268
01:03:41,587 --> 01:03:42,107
Speaker 11: definitely win.

1269
01:03:42,907 --> 01:03:45,187
Speaker 2: Nice one, Ted, Thanks mate, we'll write you down. You

1270
01:03:45,227 --> 01:03:48,467
Speaker 2: are as I just say in the minority. Uh, there

1271
01:03:48,467 --> 01:03:52,787
Speaker 2: are so many texts here backing the Blues. I'll read

1272
01:03:52,787 --> 01:03:54,947
Speaker 2: out a couple of the longer ones get a pony

1273
01:03:54,987 --> 01:03:57,747
Speaker 2: off to support the Blues tonight. But do you have

1274
01:03:57,787 --> 01:04:00,027
Speaker 2: any insight as to why Ben O'Keeffe is not refereeing?

1275
01:04:00,507 --> 01:04:02,227
Speaker 2: I think he's good, but as he didn't even get

1276
01:04:02,227 --> 01:04:04,827
Speaker 2: a semi last week, he must be ranked number four

1277
01:04:04,907 --> 01:04:08,027
Speaker 2: at best. The reof tonight goes, okay, you Nick Berry's

1278
01:04:08,027 --> 01:04:11,227
Speaker 2: got the whistle, hasn't he? The Australian I couldn't understand that.

1279
01:04:11,987 --> 01:04:13,747
Speaker 2: Someone asked me a few weeks ago on the show

1280
01:04:14,027 --> 01:04:16,747
Speaker 2: who I thought would referee the Grand Final? And I see, well,

1281
01:04:16,787 --> 01:04:21,987
Speaker 2: the obvious person has been O'Keefe. He's I think generally

1282
01:04:22,067 --> 01:04:26,347
Speaker 2: understood to be our best, isn't he? I don't Yeah,

1283
01:04:26,347 --> 01:04:27,867
Speaker 2: he didn't get a semi final. I thought, okay, well

1284
01:04:27,867 --> 01:04:29,867
Speaker 2: that the reason he hasn't got a semi final is

1285
01:04:29,867 --> 01:04:31,627
Speaker 2: because he's going to referee the grand final. But no,

1286
01:04:32,667 --> 01:04:35,947
Speaker 2: I don't know. I presume he's available. Has he picked

1287
01:04:35,987 --> 01:04:38,387
Speaker 2: up an injury? I don't know. No further insight I

1288
01:04:38,427 --> 01:04:41,107
Speaker 2: can give you there. Unfortunately, Mars says it's all about

1289
01:04:41,107 --> 01:04:45,547
Speaker 2: the number ten's Damien McKenzie, Why is no one mentioning that.

1290
01:04:45,587 --> 01:04:49,027
Speaker 2: Tell me a Super Rugby team that hasn't won without

1291
01:04:49,067 --> 01:04:53,227
Speaker 2: a world class number ten. Mus I can't because I

1292
01:04:53,267 --> 01:04:56,027
Speaker 2: think that has been a theme right from the start

1293
01:04:56,107 --> 01:04:59,627
Speaker 2: of Super Rugby all the way back to nineteen ninety

1294
01:04:59,627 --> 01:05:02,867
Speaker 2: six when who was playing first five back then for

1295
01:05:02,947 --> 01:05:07,227
Speaker 2: the for the Blues Mi Carlos Spencer resumably all the

1296
01:05:07,227 --> 01:05:09,467
Speaker 2: way back then, and then right the way through the

1297
01:05:09,467 --> 01:05:14,907
Speaker 2: Crusaders era with Carter and then Wonga. But muz, if

1298
01:05:14,947 --> 01:05:19,627
Speaker 2: the Blues win tonight, is Harry Plummer then a world

1299
01:05:19,627 --> 01:05:24,547
Speaker 2: class first five because he has been absolutely magnificent for

1300
01:05:24,587 --> 01:05:28,547
Speaker 2: them in staring them around. He hardly, as I said

1301
01:05:28,547 --> 01:05:33,427
Speaker 2: to Caleb Clark, he hardly played last year at first five.

1302
01:05:33,747 --> 01:05:35,747
Speaker 2: He was mainly used at second five and does a

1303
01:05:35,867 --> 01:05:38,867
Speaker 2: very good job there as well. But in the number

1304
01:05:38,907 --> 01:05:42,627
Speaker 2: ten jersey for the Blues this season he has been exceptional,

1305
01:05:42,707 --> 01:05:45,107
Speaker 2: so much so that the bloke who everybody thought was

1306
01:05:45,107 --> 01:05:47,707
Speaker 2: going to be playing number ten, Stephen Pittafetta, has come

1307
01:05:47,747 --> 01:05:49,907
Speaker 2: back in and they've put him at fullback, said I know,

1308
01:05:50,147 --> 01:05:53,107
Speaker 2: we quite like him. We quite like the job that

1309
01:05:53,347 --> 01:05:58,507
Speaker 2: Harry Plummer's doing at ten. Sam says, as a die

1310
01:05:58,587 --> 01:06:01,987
Speaker 2: hard Hurricane supporter, I didn't really know who to cheer

1311
01:06:02,027 --> 01:06:04,707
Speaker 2: for tonight until I heard that brilliant interview with Caleb Clark.

1312
01:06:05,347 --> 01:06:08,347
Speaker 2: So refreshing to hear such a genuine young player who

1313
01:06:08,347 --> 01:06:09,467
Speaker 2: clearly loves what he does.

1314
01:06:09,747 --> 01:06:09,987
Speaker 6: Sam.

1315
01:06:10,027 --> 01:06:13,507
Speaker 2: I agree, haven't had too many chances to chat to

1316
01:06:13,547 --> 01:06:18,787
Speaker 2: Caleb Clark, but yeah, what a lovely kidd. I've made

1317
01:06:18,787 --> 01:06:23,267
Speaker 2: it to the traffic jam at Jury Drury eight Talannucky

1318
01:06:23,307 --> 01:06:25,587
Speaker 2: players and the Chiefs. So easy for me to pick

1319
01:06:25,627 --> 01:06:28,227
Speaker 2: a winners? Is this one? David says, I wouldn't be

1320
01:06:28,307 --> 01:06:32,867
Speaker 2: at all surprised to see an upset tonight. And just

1321
01:06:32,907 --> 01:06:36,227
Speaker 2: before we go back to the lines, Gunner has sent

1322
01:06:36,307 --> 01:06:41,227
Speaker 2: through his usually articulate thoughts. So without even a pre read,

1323
01:06:41,227 --> 01:06:43,627
Speaker 2: I'm going to read this out Gunner PINTI to me,

1324
01:06:43,667 --> 01:06:46,987
Speaker 2: it's the Blues to lose with obvious advantages home ground,

1325
01:06:47,067 --> 01:06:49,867
Speaker 2: healthier squad, But the last three games I feel they

1326
01:06:49,987 --> 01:06:52,347
Speaker 2: never really put enough full stop performance. Yes, they got

1327
01:06:52,387 --> 01:06:56,267
Speaker 2: away with good starts and that's their saving grace. The

1328
01:06:56,347 --> 01:06:59,227
Speaker 2: Chiefs on the flip side have struck form, especially in

1329
01:06:59,267 --> 01:07:01,107
Speaker 2: the last two weeks. I also think that for the

1330
01:07:01,187 --> 01:07:04,107
Speaker 2: Chiefs to win, they must be competitive at set piece

1331
01:07:04,147 --> 01:07:06,107
Speaker 2: to give Demak a chance to weave his magic. The

1332
01:07:06,147 --> 01:07:09,507
Speaker 2: key for me will be disciplined, no dumb penalties. If

1333
01:07:09,507 --> 01:07:12,187
Speaker 2: the Chiefs can control the controllables, I'm certain they'll be

1334
01:07:12,187 --> 01:07:15,427
Speaker 2: holding the cup tonight. I'm also hoping that referee Nick

1335
01:07:15,427 --> 01:07:17,827
Speaker 2: Berry goes into the game with a mindset of let

1336
01:07:17,867 --> 01:07:21,747
Speaker 2: them play. Go my Chiefs, thank you. Gunna is always

1337
01:07:21,947 --> 01:07:24,907
Speaker 2: great to get your thoughts, Mark, Chiefs Blues, how do

1338
01:07:24,947 --> 01:07:25,507
Speaker 2: you think.

1339
01:07:26,987 --> 01:07:29,427
Speaker 16: I'd like to see the Blues safrom one more year?

1340
01:07:34,547 --> 01:07:37,267
Speaker 2: What a rationale, What a rationale to bring.

1341
01:07:37,107 --> 01:07:41,587
Speaker 16: To it as a Hurricane supporter and feel the pain.

1342
01:07:41,707 --> 01:07:44,147
Speaker 16: But yeah, twenty one years has been a long time

1343
01:07:44,187 --> 01:07:46,467
Speaker 16: for them to wait for a championship. But I think

1344
01:07:46,507 --> 01:07:49,347
Speaker 16: tonight to night, to be honest, I think their full

1345
01:07:49,387 --> 01:07:52,147
Speaker 16: pack is rolling pretty well, and I think some of

1346
01:07:52,187 --> 01:07:54,147
Speaker 16: the players that are playing their best rope be ever

1347
01:07:54,507 --> 01:07:57,267
Speaker 16: and getting to you Poloda Beck I think was a

1348
01:07:57,267 --> 01:07:59,547
Speaker 16: bit of a miracle really, and I think he's obviously

1349
01:07:59,587 --> 01:08:01,427
Speaker 16: going to be up for the game. I think Hoskins

1350
01:08:02,107 --> 01:08:07,307
Speaker 16: has been absolutely outstanding this year. Even Ricky Tully, who's

1351
01:08:07,347 --> 01:08:10,107
Speaker 16: still a Hurricane, I guess he probably wears his Hurricane

1352
01:08:10,147 --> 01:08:14,267
Speaker 16: jersey underneath his Blues jersey, but he's been playing well.

1353
01:08:14,707 --> 01:08:17,587
Speaker 16: I just think their full pack will probably dominate and

1354
01:08:17,587 --> 01:08:19,587
Speaker 16: and a lot of their tries are actually coming through

1355
01:08:19,627 --> 01:08:22,347
Speaker 16: their forwards, and I wouldn't be surprised if they just

1356
01:08:22,467 --> 01:08:24,467
Speaker 16: play a forward centric game, to be honest.

1357
01:08:25,067 --> 01:08:28,467
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no point in the Blues changing what has

1358
01:08:28,507 --> 01:08:31,667
Speaker 2: worked for them. Mark up till now, it's been very

1359
01:08:31,787 --> 01:08:35,027
Speaker 2: very clear what vern Koda wants from this team. He's

1360
01:08:35,027 --> 01:08:38,187
Speaker 2: got them all on that same page, and look it

1361
01:08:38,227 --> 01:08:43,667
Speaker 2: has worked for them. Yeah. I look at the Chiefs though,

1362
01:08:43,707 --> 01:08:46,907
Speaker 2: and I see a bunch of game changes in their finals.

1363
01:08:46,907 --> 01:08:49,827
Speaker 2: Are normally tight affairs, aren't they. It might just be

1364
01:08:49,947 --> 01:08:51,907
Speaker 2: who sees us the moments.

1365
01:08:53,707 --> 01:08:55,307
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean last week, I mean I went to

1366
01:08:55,347 --> 01:08:57,387
Speaker 16: the game and I thought the Hurricanes played one of

1367
01:08:57,427 --> 01:08:59,787
Speaker 16: the worst games of the year. I said last week,

1368
01:09:00,227 --> 01:09:02,267
Speaker 16: I didn't think they handled the pressure. But I think

1369
01:09:02,547 --> 01:09:05,027
Speaker 16: it's going to be a different Kittler first this week

1370
01:09:05,067 --> 01:09:07,987
Speaker 16: with the Blues. And yeah, I mean, I do hope

1371
01:09:08,027 --> 01:09:11,107
Speaker 16: it's a good contest and we don't see any any cards.

1372
01:09:11,147 --> 01:09:13,347
Speaker 16: It would be great, great stats, you know, is to

1373
01:09:13,387 --> 01:09:15,947
Speaker 16: have it to have an even contest right across the board,

1374
01:09:16,147 --> 01:09:20,107
Speaker 16: and I do I do like the backline of the Chiefs.

1375
01:09:20,267 --> 01:09:21,707
Speaker 16: I mean, I think, in other words, got to be

1376
01:09:21,747 --> 01:09:24,667
Speaker 16: pushing for for selection for the Orglexis year. He's been

1377
01:09:24,747 --> 01:09:27,507
Speaker 16: fantastic out on the wing near And yeah, I mean,

1378
01:09:27,667 --> 01:09:30,787
Speaker 16: I just hope it's a good game. And yeah it

1379
01:09:30,907 --> 01:09:31,867
Speaker 16: made the best team win.

1380
01:09:32,467 --> 01:09:35,387
Speaker 2: Yeah, spoken like a true Hurricane supporter, Mark, just like me.

1381
01:09:36,307 --> 01:09:39,387
Speaker 2: No skin in the game for us mate could have made.

1382
01:09:39,667 --> 01:09:44,067
Speaker 2: I just hope both teams have fun. Yeah, and that's it,

1383
01:09:44,107 --> 01:09:46,947
Speaker 2: doesn't it. I think there's two ways to approach a

1384
01:09:46,987 --> 01:09:49,307
Speaker 2: game like this. If your team's not in it. You

1385
01:09:49,347 --> 01:09:51,947
Speaker 2: can say, well, I don't care, I don't care my

1386
01:09:51,947 --> 01:09:53,387
Speaker 2: team's not there, or you can say, you know what,

1387
01:09:53,467 --> 01:09:56,547
Speaker 2: I love rugby, I'm looking forward to the contest, and

1388
01:09:56,587 --> 01:09:59,707
Speaker 2: in many ways you go and completely unencumbered. Yeah there's

1389
01:09:59,707 --> 01:10:01,467
Speaker 2: a team you think I'd quite like them to win,

1390
01:10:01,667 --> 01:10:04,587
Speaker 2: or or you say, you know, I don't want them

1391
01:10:04,627 --> 01:10:07,107
Speaker 2: to win. But really you can just enjoy it for

1392
01:10:07,147 --> 01:10:11,987
Speaker 2: what it is. It's been such a long time, particularly

1393
01:10:11,987 --> 01:10:14,867
Speaker 2: for the Blues. Listen to the Blues team that won

1394
01:10:14,907 --> 01:10:20,187
Speaker 2: the two thousand and three Grand Final beating Andy McDonald's

1395
01:10:20,187 --> 01:10:24,347
Speaker 2: Crusaders twenty one seventeen. Annie McDonald would have been about

1396
01:10:24,387 --> 01:10:27,387
Speaker 2: three at the time. Here's the team that started for

1397
01:10:27,427 --> 01:10:31,027
Speaker 2: the Blues that day. Deacon Manu, Kevin Miolamu and case

1398
01:10:31,107 --> 01:10:34,187
Speaker 2: Mues in the front row. Allie Williams and Angus McDonald

1399
01:10:34,187 --> 01:10:37,667
Speaker 2: were the locks. Justin Collins, Dan Braid and Captain Xavier

1400
01:10:37,747 --> 01:10:41,347
Speaker 2: Rush the loose Fords. David Gibson at half back, Carlos

1401
01:10:41,347 --> 01:10:46,067
Speaker 2: Spencer at first five, Sam Tuey Tupor and Mills Mulliaina

1402
01:10:46,147 --> 01:10:50,307
Speaker 2: in midfield, Rico Gear, Joe Rocathocho and Doug Howleett the

1403
01:10:50,347 --> 01:10:53,747
Speaker 2: back three. That is some team on the reserves bench

1404
01:10:53,787 --> 01:10:57,707
Speaker 2: Lee stensoness or any Ae, Craig McGrath, Mossi to Elie,

1405
01:10:58,307 --> 01:11:01,547
Speaker 2: Brad Meeker, Tony Woodcock and Darren Witkim, although only Witkim,

1406
01:11:01,827 --> 01:11:05,627
Speaker 2: Woodcock and Meeka made it onto the field. Peter Sloan

1407
01:11:05,947 --> 01:11:08,947
Speaker 2: was the coach two thousand and three. As I said

1408
01:11:08,947 --> 01:11:12,347
Speaker 2: to Jack Tame before midday, no Blue supporter has ever

1409
01:11:12,347 --> 01:11:16,547
Speaker 2: written on Facebook we are Super Rugby champions, not a

1410
01:11:16,547 --> 01:11:18,947
Speaker 2: fully fledged one. Anyway. We had that funny old COVID one,

1411
01:11:18,987 --> 01:11:20,747
Speaker 2: didn't we which doesn't really count.

1412
01:11:21,067 --> 01:11:23,147
Speaker 4: Also, finally, there's no need to throw my name in

1413
01:11:23,227 --> 01:11:25,987
Speaker 4: that mix and also declare I would have been nine

1414
01:11:26,067 --> 01:11:28,387
Speaker 4: years old. Man, I'm not that young. I remember that

1415
01:11:28,427 --> 01:11:31,027
Speaker 4: final as much as I've tried to forget it. But

1416
01:11:31,067 --> 01:11:31,707
Speaker 4: thanks anyway.

1417
01:11:33,907 --> 01:11:35,747
Speaker 2: Oh, I just wanted to make sure you were paying attention.

1418
01:11:36,667 --> 01:11:39,187
Speaker 4: I do pay attention because I know I'm expecting to

1419
01:11:39,227 --> 01:11:41,027
Speaker 4: hear the sort of stuff from you, but I've got

1420
01:11:41,027 --> 01:11:42,147
Speaker 4: to call you out occasionally.

1421
01:11:42,147 --> 01:11:45,187
Speaker 2: Mate, How was two thousand and six? Two thousand and

1422
01:11:45,227 --> 01:11:49,707
Speaker 2: six very foggy from memory? Very foggy from memory? Twenty thirteen?

1423
01:11:49,747 --> 01:11:53,067
Speaker 2: Can we talk about twenty thirteen when the Chiefs last

1424
01:11:53,107 --> 01:11:55,187
Speaker 2: won Super Rugby? I don't think the Crusaders even made

1425
01:11:55,227 --> 01:11:57,387
Speaker 2: the final that year. The Chiefs beat them in the

1426
01:11:57,427 --> 01:11:59,187
Speaker 2: semi final. In twenty thirteen, I believe that.

1427
01:11:59,267 --> 01:12:01,147
Speaker 4: Was the second year in a row they beat us

1428
01:12:01,147 --> 01:12:03,227
Speaker 4: in the semi finals. I could be wrong, but I'm

1429
01:12:03,227 --> 01:12:06,827
Speaker 4: fairly fairly sure of that. Yeah, so yet that's one

1430
01:12:06,867 --> 01:12:09,787
Speaker 4: of our Yeah, that one heard a bit. But good,

1431
01:12:09,907 --> 01:12:11,387
Speaker 4: good for them, Good for them to make the final

1432
01:12:11,387 --> 01:12:12,907
Speaker 4: again this Yeco for the Blues. Hey, do you know

1433
01:12:12,987 --> 01:12:15,187
Speaker 4: there's only two teams that have beaten both finalists. This

1434
01:12:15,307 --> 01:12:19,707
Speaker 4: year only two teams who have beaten both finalists. I

1435
01:12:19,747 --> 01:12:21,667
Speaker 4: know the Hurricanes. That was the other one, the Crusaders.

1436
01:12:22,107 --> 01:12:26,027
Speaker 4: You better believe that, yes, so we can agree that

1437
01:12:26,067 --> 01:12:29,187
Speaker 4: the real finalists should be the Hurricanes. An never mind,

1438
01:12:30,307 --> 01:12:32,587
Speaker 4: I better give you the chief side from twenty thirteen

1439
01:12:32,707 --> 01:12:36,387
Speaker 4: that won Super Rugby. This is the last victorious chiefs

1440
01:12:36,507 --> 01:12:39,427
Speaker 4: side in Super Rugby. They beat the Brumbys twenty seven

1441
01:12:39,507 --> 01:12:42,307
Speaker 4: twenty two in Hamilton. The Brumbies were a head sixteen

1442
01:12:42,387 --> 01:12:45,387
Speaker 4: nine at the break. Here's the chief side Toby Smith, Hicker,

1443
01:12:45,507 --> 01:12:48,707
Speaker 4: Elliott and Ben Tummy of Funa with the front row.

1444
01:12:48,787 --> 01:12:52,107
Speaker 4: Craig Clark the captain and Brodevertallic with the locks. The

1445
01:12:52,427 --> 01:12:56,707
Speaker 4: loose forward trio Liam Messim, Tonado Latimer and Matt vant

1446
01:12:56,827 --> 01:13:00,907
Speaker 4: Levin was the number eight. Taboto Kerbarlow was the half back.

1447
01:13:00,907 --> 01:13:05,187
Speaker 4: Aaron Cruden the first five. Andrew Horal and Charlie Natai

1448
01:13:05,307 --> 01:13:11,507
Speaker 4: teamed up in midfield, Usi Eli Tikoro, Duma Laliah Massanga

1449
01:13:11,947 --> 01:13:14,667
Speaker 4: and Gareth Anskin with a back three and on the

1450
01:13:14,707 --> 01:13:17,827
Speaker 4: reserves bench that day, Reyes Marshall, Ben r Fi Yaki,

1451
01:13:17,907 --> 01:13:23,587
Speaker 4: Michael Fitzgerald, Sam Kaine and listen to these back reserves.

1452
01:13:23,667 --> 01:13:28,387
Speaker 4: Augustine Pulu, Robbie Robinson and the one and only Bundy

1453
01:13:28,707 --> 01:13:32,547
Speaker 4: r Key was on the bench. The Irish midfielder was

1454
01:13:32,587 --> 01:13:35,147
Speaker 4: on the bench for the Canes. For the Chiefs brother

1455
01:13:35,387 --> 01:13:39,907
Speaker 4: coached by Dave Rennie. Somebody's going to add to their legacy.

1456
01:13:39,947 --> 01:13:43,347
Speaker 4: Tonight five past seven, gold Sport and Ireheartradio have the

1457
01:13:43,347 --> 01:13:44,147
Speaker 4: commentary for you.

1458
01:13:44,227 --> 01:13:46,107
Speaker 2: Eighteen away from two. Let's take a break when we

1459
01:13:46,187 --> 01:13:49,427
Speaker 2: come back across the Tasman. Adam Peacock in his regular slot.

1460
01:13:49,467 --> 01:13:54,227
Speaker 1: Don't get caught off Sidney Weekends for us with Jason

1461
01:13:54,307 --> 01:13:58,427
Speaker 1: Pain and GJ. Guvnerhomes New Zealand's most trusted home builder

1462
01:13:58,507 --> 01:13:59,427
Speaker 1: News Dogs mb.

1463
01:14:00,187 --> 01:14:02,507
Speaker 2: Bang on one forty five. Let's get you across the Tasman.

1464
01:14:02,547 --> 01:14:05,787
Speaker 2: Are Australian correspondent. Adam Peacock is with us as always.

1465
01:14:05,787 --> 01:14:08,227
Speaker 8: How are you made good tiny yourself?

1466
01:14:08,467 --> 01:14:10,747
Speaker 2: I'm very good, thanks mate. I want to talk some cricket,

1467
01:14:10,787 --> 01:14:14,147
Speaker 2: but before that. State of Origin two Wednesday Night, Queensland

1468
01:14:14,507 --> 01:14:18,187
Speaker 2: convincing thirty eighteen winners in Game one? What chance New

1469
01:14:18,187 --> 01:14:20,467
Speaker 2: South Wales squarees up in Melbourne on Wednesday night?

1470
01:14:21,387 --> 01:14:25,547
Speaker 8: Oddly enough, their favorites. I don't know how they've come

1471
01:14:25,587 --> 01:14:27,827
Speaker 8: in after the teams were selected, and I think everyone's

1472
01:14:27,827 --> 01:14:30,787
Speaker 8: fallen in love with the seventeen that New South Wales

1473
01:14:30,987 --> 01:14:33,827
Speaker 8: have selected on paper. And this has happened so many

1474
01:14:33,867 --> 01:14:36,387
Speaker 8: times in the history of origin that people look at

1475
01:14:36,427 --> 01:14:38,587
Speaker 8: New South Wales and go, Wow, what a team, what

1476
01:14:39,307 --> 01:14:41,627
Speaker 8: a bunch of players, and then Queensland come out and

1477
01:14:41,667 --> 01:14:44,227
Speaker 8: act as a unit and get the job done. So

1478
01:14:44,467 --> 01:14:47,147
Speaker 8: I'm not calling it either way, but I think it's

1479
01:14:47,627 --> 01:14:51,267
Speaker 8: a borderline ridiculous that New South Wales are favorites in

1480
01:14:51,267 --> 01:14:53,467
Speaker 8: this game, despite the fact that they brought back players

1481
01:14:53,547 --> 01:14:57,547
Speaker 8: like the Trell, Mitchell, cam Murray, etc. I think Queensland

1482
01:14:57,587 --> 01:15:00,347
Speaker 8: I think it's a fifty to fifty call, with maybe

1483
01:15:00,387 --> 01:15:02,507
Speaker 8: the tipping towards Queensland.

1484
01:15:02,747 --> 01:15:05,827
Speaker 2: Yeah, the home advantage, I mean, home advantage is certainly

1485
01:15:05,827 --> 01:15:08,747
Speaker 2: a thing, isn't But they're thirty eighteen loss that was

1486
01:15:08,787 --> 01:15:11,347
Speaker 2: in certainey, wasn't it. So the New South Wales got

1487
01:15:11,427 --> 01:15:14,987
Speaker 2: beaten soundly beaten at home, didn't they?

1488
01:15:15,907 --> 01:15:19,227
Speaker 8: Yes, But everyone's kind of wiped that result and how

1489
01:15:19,267 --> 01:15:21,307
Speaker 8: it happened on the basis of New South I was

1490
01:15:21,347 --> 01:15:24,947
Speaker 8: playing for seventy two minutes with twelve men, which I

1491
01:15:24,987 --> 01:15:28,187
Speaker 8: can get. But Queensland didn't play that great and still

1492
01:15:28,227 --> 01:15:32,187
Speaker 8: won the game convincingly in the end. So okay, they

1493
01:15:32,227 --> 01:15:35,907
Speaker 8: scored a few late tries through fatigue, but just how

1494
01:15:36,147 --> 01:15:38,427
Speaker 8: the game was played. The strikeout that Queensland have is

1495
01:15:38,507 --> 01:15:42,667
Speaker 8: quite frightening. They're on go again. They look a quicker,

1496
01:15:43,027 --> 01:15:46,467
Speaker 8: more nimble side and if they can control New South

1497
01:15:46,507 --> 01:15:49,227
Speaker 8: Wales through the middle third of the field, I think

1498
01:15:49,667 --> 01:15:51,107
Speaker 8: you say, well, I was going to have some issues, but

1499
01:15:51,147 --> 01:15:54,227
Speaker 8: the game's down in Melbourne Neutral Venue allegedly. I don't

1500
01:15:54,267 --> 01:15:57,187
Speaker 8: know who's going to be supporting who down there. I

1501
01:15:57,227 --> 01:16:00,547
Speaker 8: think a lot of people will travel. But yeah, it's

1502
01:16:00,587 --> 01:16:02,307
Speaker 8: a really tough one to call, and I can't say

1503
01:16:02,387 --> 01:16:04,547
Speaker 8: with any confidence at New soth Well's just bite being

1504
01:16:04,547 --> 01:16:06,547
Speaker 8: in New South Walshman that they're going to get it

1505
01:16:06,587 --> 01:16:07,987
Speaker 8: done down there before.

1506
01:16:07,707 --> 01:16:10,187
Speaker 2: We move on. Will they fill up the McGill Will

1507
01:16:10,187 --> 01:16:10,707
Speaker 2: it be full?

1508
01:16:11,827 --> 01:16:14,627
Speaker 8: Yeah? I don't know yet. They're saying that one hundred thousand,

1509
01:16:14,667 --> 01:16:17,627
Speaker 8: but that's without any real intel on the ticket sales.

1510
01:16:17,667 --> 01:16:20,347
Speaker 8: I reckon they'll fall a little short and maybe they

1511
01:16:20,387 --> 01:16:22,547
Speaker 8: might make a drive late. So I think they did

1512
01:16:22,547 --> 01:16:24,507
Speaker 8: it in Sydney actually to give two for one away,

1513
01:16:25,067 --> 01:16:26,867
Speaker 8: which would be stoked about if you bought your tickets

1514
01:16:26,907 --> 01:16:29,707
Speaker 8: early in pulp payful freight. I don't know where the

1515
01:16:29,747 --> 01:16:31,907
Speaker 8: advantage is and all of that, but things are changed.

1516
01:16:31,947 --> 01:16:34,107
Speaker 8: I don't know what it's like over there, but with

1517
01:16:34,307 --> 01:16:39,187
Speaker 8: everything in life after COVID, everything's changed to the theater,

1518
01:16:39,387 --> 01:16:42,867
Speaker 8: the movies, to a sporting of that. People buy tickets really,

1519
01:16:42,907 --> 01:16:45,947
Speaker 8: really late now, So we'll wait and see what rolls up.

1520
01:16:45,987 --> 01:16:47,387
Speaker 8: Either way, it's going to be a great occasion.

1521
01:16:47,627 --> 01:16:50,027
Speaker 2: Yeah, looking forward to it as always over here. Let's

1522
01:16:50,027 --> 01:16:52,187
Speaker 2: move to the T twenty Cricket World Cup. Five ones

1523
01:16:52,267 --> 01:16:55,107
Speaker 2: from five for Australia most recently via Duckworth Lewis against

1524
01:16:55,107 --> 01:16:58,427
Speaker 2: bungled Is yesterday. Usual suspects to the for Travis Head,

1525
01:16:58,507 --> 01:17:00,947
Speaker 2: David Warner, Marcus staun Is, getting your runs, Adam Zampa's

1526
01:17:00,947 --> 01:17:03,827
Speaker 2: your top. We could take a Afghanistan tomorrow, then India

1527
01:17:03,827 --> 01:17:05,627
Speaker 2: before the seams. You're in pretty good shape, aren't you.

1528
01:17:06,747 --> 01:17:10,347
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it was I wouldn't say nervy. It was

1529
01:17:10,427 --> 01:17:14,307
Speaker 8: just not quite there until the midetings of Bangladest. They

1530
01:17:14,347 --> 01:17:17,067
Speaker 8: could have posted a decent side and made a score

1531
01:17:17,107 --> 01:17:18,867
Speaker 8: and made it difficult for us, and then we lost

1532
01:17:18,867 --> 01:17:20,747
Speaker 8: two quick wickets, but then the rain came and we

1533
01:17:20,747 --> 01:17:25,427
Speaker 8: were always ahead on the Duckworth Lewis whatever they call

1534
01:17:25,467 --> 01:17:29,267
Speaker 8: it now system, so we're ahead on runs and that

1535
01:17:29,387 --> 01:17:31,507
Speaker 8: stayed that way when the game was called after Australia

1536
01:17:31,547 --> 01:17:34,867
Speaker 8: batted eleven overs. But yeah, we're in good neck in Afghanistan,

1537
01:17:34,987 --> 01:17:37,827
Speaker 8: they're going to be tricky. They're a good side, and

1538
01:17:37,827 --> 01:17:40,627
Speaker 8: then India, so I'll have to get a bang on.

1539
01:17:40,907 --> 01:17:44,947
Speaker 8: As we saw overnight, England had a fantastic first up

1540
01:17:44,947 --> 01:17:47,027
Speaker 8: winning the Super Eights over West Indies and then get

1541
01:17:47,107 --> 01:17:50,947
Speaker 8: rolled by South Africa. So nothing's given in these Super

1542
01:17:50,987 --> 01:17:53,987
Speaker 8: Eights games. And yeah, Australia will have to be right

1543
01:17:54,027 --> 01:17:56,027
Speaker 8: on their game to get past Afghanistan in the next

1544
01:17:56,027 --> 01:17:56,827
Speaker 8: twenty four hours.

1545
01:17:56,947 --> 01:17:58,867
Speaker 2: You don't have to tell us how tricky Afghanistan are

1546
01:17:58,947 --> 01:18:01,787
Speaker 2: over here, mate, you don't have to reinforce that to us.

1547
01:18:01,987 --> 01:18:03,507
Speaker 2: We're well aware.

1548
01:18:04,147 --> 01:18:04,947
Speaker 8: Slapkid, didn't they?

1549
01:18:05,907 --> 01:18:09,147
Speaker 2: Thanks mane Jo. I'm glad. I'm glad I referenced there.

1550
01:18:09,787 --> 01:18:13,307
Speaker 2: Speaking of cricket, Marnus Labashane isn't in the squad. He's

1551
01:18:13,347 --> 01:18:16,707
Speaker 2: playing for Glamorgan and the Vitality blast in the UK.

1552
01:18:17,147 --> 01:18:19,187
Speaker 2: Did you see that catch he took his today?

1553
01:18:20,507 --> 01:18:23,947
Speaker 8: Incredible, wasn't it? At the ground level And it's hard,

1554
01:18:25,347 --> 01:18:28,267
Speaker 8: It's impossible, not hard. It's impossible to do it justice

1555
01:18:28,267 --> 01:18:31,667
Speaker 8: with words and painting a picture. But I'll try the

1556
01:18:31,707 --> 01:18:34,147
Speaker 8: ground level action of it. And fair play to the

1557
01:18:34,147 --> 01:18:36,187
Speaker 8: cameraman to being on Marness just happen to be on

1558
01:18:36,267 --> 01:18:39,067
Speaker 8: Martis at the time, is near to him, and Martins

1559
01:18:39,147 --> 01:18:41,307
Speaker 8: has seen it. It's a T twenty game. He's in

1560
01:18:41,347 --> 01:18:44,747
Speaker 8: the deep at mid off, deep mid off and he

1561
01:18:44,827 --> 01:18:47,267
Speaker 8: spotted it off about straight away, so his reaction time

1562
01:18:47,507 --> 01:18:49,627
Speaker 8: is like an Olympic swimmer, bang straight out of the

1563
01:18:49,627 --> 01:18:54,667
Speaker 8: blocks and then he's sprinted like not ran hard, not

1564
01:18:55,347 --> 01:19:00,547
Speaker 8: like he's sprinted at full peal for about fifteen meters

1565
01:19:01,347 --> 01:19:04,147
Speaker 8: and taken the right number of steps and then at

1566
01:19:04,147 --> 01:19:08,747
Speaker 8: the right time full scratch one arm out and caught

1567
01:19:08,747 --> 01:19:11,027
Speaker 8: it justice. It's about to hit the deck and it

1568
01:19:11,067 --> 01:19:14,787
Speaker 8: was a flat shot as well. It is a freakish,

1569
01:19:15,027 --> 01:19:18,947
Speaker 8: freakish bit of play. And I mean it justifies how

1570
01:19:18,987 --> 01:19:22,067
Speaker 8: much work Martus puts into his craft because he just

1571
01:19:22,227 --> 01:19:26,467
Speaker 8: loves cricket and loves perfecting his fielding and you guys

1572
01:19:26,467 --> 01:19:28,867
Speaker 8: felt it, didn't you As at the World Cup, I

1573
01:19:28,907 --> 01:19:30,827
Speaker 8: remember laid on in the game against New Zealand when

1574
01:19:30,827 --> 01:19:32,627
Speaker 8: it was looking a bit dicey for Australia, Martus came

1575
01:19:32,667 --> 01:19:35,787
Speaker 8: up with something ridiculous in the deep and not turned

1576
01:19:35,827 --> 01:19:39,467
Speaker 8: the game but kind of rested back momentum towards Australia.

1577
01:19:39,467 --> 01:19:39,947
Speaker 16: And you did it.

1578
01:19:39,987 --> 01:19:41,987
Speaker 8: There It was. It was just amazing, wasn't it.

1579
01:19:42,267 --> 01:19:45,507
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's such an important part of the

1580
01:19:45,787 --> 01:19:47,787
Speaker 2: white ball game. And then if you're like me, you

1581
01:19:48,227 --> 01:19:50,507
Speaker 2: often see the stuff. Did you have you seen Martus's catch?

1582
01:19:50,507 --> 01:19:52,387
Speaker 2: It's one of the best catches you'll see. And you

1583
01:19:52,467 --> 01:19:54,027
Speaker 2: hear that, I say, Okay, it's probably one of those

1584
01:19:54,027 --> 01:19:55,467
Speaker 2: you know, on the boundary or whatever it is, but

1585
01:19:55,587 --> 01:19:58,107
Speaker 2: it is actually one of the best catches I've seen

1586
01:19:58,107 --> 01:20:00,827
Speaker 2: in my forty odd years of watching the game. And

1587
01:20:00,867 --> 01:20:03,107
Speaker 2: you've done it just as really well. It's a remarkable

1588
01:20:03,347 --> 01:20:04,307
Speaker 2: piece of outfielding.

1589
01:20:04,987 --> 01:20:07,787
Speaker 8: Yeah. The first thing that came into my head, and

1590
01:20:07,787 --> 01:20:10,347
Speaker 8: I'm probably you're the same as well. Find the first

1591
01:20:10,387 --> 01:20:13,667
Speaker 8: word that I thought was chira attractor, because if.

1592
01:20:13,547 --> 01:20:15,467
Speaker 16: I did that, that's exactly.

1593
01:20:15,187 --> 01:20:17,027
Speaker 8: Who I'd be calling. Because I wouldn't catch it, I

1594
01:20:17,027 --> 01:20:19,067
Speaker 8: wouldn't get near it. I'd try and dive and I'd

1595
01:20:19,147 --> 01:20:19,707
Speaker 8: hurt myself.

1596
01:20:19,947 --> 01:20:23,707
Speaker 2: So yeah, more and more. The first word that comes

1597
01:20:23,747 --> 01:20:26,387
Speaker 2: into my mind and situations in my life now was kyropractor.

1598
01:20:26,427 --> 01:20:29,747
Speaker 2: I must tell you, but I've done it well, all

1599
01:20:29,867 --> 01:20:31,587
Speaker 2: right mate, Well that I think our work here is done,

1600
01:20:31,587 --> 01:20:33,147
Speaker 2: and go and have a great weekend and we'll catch

1601
01:20:33,227 --> 01:20:34,907
Speaker 2: up again next Saturday. A.

1602
01:20:35,027 --> 01:20:36,707
Speaker 8: Finally, guess what it's doing in Sydney.

1603
01:20:37,787 --> 01:20:40,147
Speaker 2: I know it's not golf wether by the sounds of it.

1604
01:20:40,547 --> 01:20:43,067
Speaker 8: Mate, we have dead set and transported Sydney to the

1605
01:20:43,107 --> 01:20:46,827
Speaker 8: South Island of New Zealand. It's ridiculous. Every Saturday it

1606
01:20:46,907 --> 01:20:49,667
Speaker 8: turned into dun Eden. We've all to respect to duneed

1607
01:20:49,707 --> 01:20:54,227
Speaker 8: and it hoses down and it comes down sideways. Anyway,

1608
01:20:54,547 --> 01:20:55,267
Speaker 8: that's life is.

1609
01:20:55,387 --> 01:20:58,627
Speaker 2: This is not helping your golf game, I wouldn't imagine.

1610
01:20:58,907 --> 01:21:01,267
Speaker 2: Good on you, mate, always great to catch up. D

1611
01:21:01,467 --> 01:21:05,747
Speaker 2: Thanks my friend Adam Peacock out of Australia. He's part

1612
01:21:05,747 --> 01:21:08,507
Speaker 2: of stand Sports upcoming coverage of the Olympic Games various

1613
01:21:08,507 --> 01:21:10,947
Speaker 2: media platforms and a big part of our Saturdays here

1614
01:21:10,987 --> 01:21:13,187
Speaker 2: on News Talks NB as well. Just on seven and

1615
01:21:13,227 --> 01:21:14,627
Speaker 2: a half to two. Now in News Talks.

1616
01:21:14,427 --> 01:21:18,627
Speaker 1: Ever, analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting

1617
01:21:18,667 --> 01:21:21,227
Speaker 1: world weekends for it with Jason Vye.

1618
01:21:21,347 --> 01:21:24,227
Speaker 2: They call eight hundred and eighty eighty News Talks MB.

1619
01:21:24,987 --> 01:21:26,987
Speaker 2: It's all gone downhill rather for the USA. In the

1620
01:21:27,067 --> 01:21:29,227
Speaker 2: Super eight match against the Western, he'st one hundred and

1621
01:21:29,267 --> 01:21:32,987
Speaker 2: twelve for eight in the eighteenth over, batting first, only

1622
01:21:32,987 --> 01:21:35,507
Speaker 2: going six and a half of that, So the Western

1623
01:21:35,507 --> 01:21:37,427
Speaker 2: he's doing a good job in the Battle of the

1624
01:21:37,467 --> 01:21:40,147
Speaker 2: co hosts. A couple of final texts before we get

1625
01:21:40,187 --> 01:21:42,547
Speaker 2: to the news, Tony says, Jason, the nine and tens

1626
01:21:42,947 --> 01:21:44,907
Speaker 2: stood out in the winning teams that you read out.

1627
01:21:44,947 --> 01:21:48,707
Speaker 2: The Chiefs have them in Alattima and Mackenzie. I'm backing

1628
01:21:48,747 --> 01:21:50,947
Speaker 2: the Chiefs to pull it off by five. I still

1629
01:21:50,987 --> 01:21:54,227
Speaker 2: haven't recovered from the Canes last yet. It'll be fun

1630
01:21:54,267 --> 01:21:56,307
Speaker 2: watching the game tonight with a normal heart rhythm. Yeah,

1631
01:21:56,307 --> 01:21:58,667
Speaker 2: that's the spirit, Tony. Yeah, it's easy to be bitter,

1632
01:21:58,707 --> 01:22:01,667
Speaker 2: isn't it. My team's not there. Let's enjoy the occasion

1633
01:22:01,707 --> 01:22:04,547
Speaker 2: for what it is. And you know, for those who

1634
01:22:04,627 --> 01:22:06,867
Speaker 2: do have skin in the game, I hope it goes

1635
01:22:06,867 --> 01:22:09,827
Speaker 2: well for you. As well Hicker Elliott. I mentioned him

1636
01:22:09,867 --> 01:22:12,987
Speaker 2: as the hooker of the twenty thirteen Chiefs side that

1637
01:22:13,067 --> 01:22:16,027
Speaker 2: won Super Rugby. I'm told here on text that Hicker

1638
01:22:16,067 --> 01:22:20,427
Speaker 2: elliott is playing for McKenzie in the South Canterbury Club

1639
01:22:20,427 --> 01:22:25,067
Speaker 2: competition today against Geraldine. That's from Tim, a Geraldine supporter.

1640
01:22:25,107 --> 01:22:30,307
Speaker 2: Thank you Tim, and Matt here Hurricane supporter. Go the Warriors,

1641
01:22:31,027 --> 01:22:33,787
Speaker 2: nice Matt, speaking of which we haven't forgotten them. They

1642
01:22:33,787 --> 01:22:36,467
Speaker 2: take on the Gold Coast Titans five o'clock this afternoon.

1643
01:22:36,587 --> 01:22:39,147
Speaker 2: Assistant coach Rick J. Garrafter two.

1644
01:22:39,707 --> 01:22:43,987
Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

1645
01:22:44,667 --> 01:22:49,627
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1646
01:22:49,707 --> 01:22:53,467
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vain on your home of Sport

1647
01:22:53,947 --> 01:22:54,627
Speaker 1: News Talk.

1648
01:22:54,507 --> 01:22:55,067
Speaker 3: Said, been.

1649
01:22:58,467 --> 01:23:00,347
Speaker 2: An hour of Arson Me and Tim Beverage into the

1650
01:23:00,427 --> 01:23:02,707
Speaker 2: chair and behind the mic for the Saturday edition of

1651
01:23:02,747 --> 01:23:05,507
Speaker 2: the Weekend Collective. The United States all out for one

1652
01:23:05,627 --> 01:23:08,867
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty eight off the penultimate delivery of their

1653
01:23:08,867 --> 01:23:13,627
Speaker 2: innings against the West Indies. So that's a fairly handy

1654
01:23:13,827 --> 01:23:16,387
Speaker 2: start in this game for the West Indies. In the

1655
01:23:16,387 --> 01:23:18,547
Speaker 2: Battle of the co hosts at the Super Eights at

1656
01:23:18,547 --> 01:23:20,707
Speaker 2: the Tea twitty Cricket World Cup one hundred and twenty

1657
01:23:20,787 --> 01:23:22,307
Speaker 2: nine to win about six and a half and over.

1658
01:23:22,467 --> 01:23:26,627
Speaker 2: We'll get them there around about this time tomorrow. Our

1659
01:23:26,707 --> 01:23:29,667
Speaker 2: Road to Paris feature continues on weekend Sport just after

1660
01:23:29,667 --> 01:23:31,347
Speaker 2: two o'clock every Sunday and the lead up to the

1661
01:23:31,427 --> 01:23:34,347
Speaker 2: Paris Olympic Games. Where chatting to one of our great Olympians,

1662
01:23:34,347 --> 01:23:37,867
Speaker 2: and tomorrow we chat to one of our great Olympians

1663
01:23:38,587 --> 01:23:43,067
Speaker 2: only Dame Lisa Carrington actually has more Olympic medals than

1664
01:23:43,107 --> 01:23:47,627
Speaker 2: this guy, Sir Mark Todd double gold medal in the

1665
01:23:47,667 --> 01:23:50,507
Speaker 2: three day event equestrian in eighty four and eighty eight,

1666
01:23:50,627 --> 01:23:54,107
Speaker 2: five Olympic medals in all, an absolutely brilliant career. Sir

1667
01:23:54,147 --> 01:23:56,067
Speaker 2: Mark Todd with us on the Road to Paris around

1668
01:23:56,107 --> 01:23:59,067
Speaker 2: about this time tomorrow. Speaking of the Road to Paris,

1669
01:23:59,267 --> 01:24:02,427
Speaker 2: Jordy Beamish is traveling that road at the moment as

1670
01:24:02,467 --> 01:24:05,987
Speaker 2: he prepares for the three thousand meters steeple chase in Paris.

1671
01:24:05,987 --> 01:24:10,507
Speaker 2: He's by the chat toists about his preparations. Warriors Titans

1672
01:24:10,507 --> 01:24:13,787
Speaker 2: five o'clock this afternoon on the Gold Coast. Assistant coach

1673
01:24:13,787 --> 01:24:15,947
Speaker 2: of the Warriors, Richard Agara is with us and Sal

1674
01:24:16,067 --> 01:24:20,427
Speaker 2: GP is in New York, final event of the sort

1675
01:24:20,427 --> 01:24:23,427
Speaker 2: of regular season before the season finale in San Francisco.

1676
01:24:24,347 --> 01:24:27,267
Speaker 2: Blair Chuke out of the Black Foils this hour as well,

1677
01:24:27,467 --> 01:24:29,787
Speaker 2: oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty four phone calls

1678
01:24:29,907 --> 01:24:32,947
Speaker 2: nine two nine two for text messages, Jason at newstalk

1679
01:24:32,987 --> 01:24:35,907
Speaker 2: SADB dot co dot en Z for emails. But as

1680
01:24:35,947 --> 01:24:37,627
Speaker 2: we always do it around about this time, which has

1681
01:24:37,707 --> 01:24:39,667
Speaker 2: just gone eight past two, it's time to catch you

1682
01:24:39,747 --> 01:24:41,587
Speaker 2: up on some of the things you may well have

1683
01:24:41,787 --> 01:24:46,707
Speaker 2: missed over the last twenty four hours, or so we

1684
01:24:46,827 --> 01:24:48,947
Speaker 2: call it in case you missed it, put together every

1685
01:24:48,987 --> 01:24:52,707
Speaker 2: Saturday and Sunday by Andy McDonald, just the one Friday

1686
01:24:52,787 --> 01:24:56,547
Speaker 2: night NRL fixture to catch you up on the Melbourne

1687
01:24:56,587 --> 01:25:00,387
Speaker 2: Storm holding off a very stern test from the Dolphins,

1688
01:25:00,707 --> 01:25:01,507
Speaker 2: and they've got one.

1689
01:25:01,347 --> 01:25:04,347
Speaker 19: More play the Dolphins thirty five minutes out to Tella

1690
01:25:04,667 --> 01:25:06,627
Speaker 19: closed nickel Rima.

1691
01:25:06,827 --> 01:25:09,147
Speaker 2: Is there nobody panics for Melbourne?

1692
01:25:09,267 --> 01:25:10,987
Speaker 3: Philly though stays alone?

1693
01:25:11,147 --> 01:25:18,547
Speaker 2: Okay, nide, we'll put tonight here, the Storm winning at

1694
01:25:18,547 --> 01:25:21,747
Speaker 2: thirty points to twenty four, this morning's T twenty World

1695
01:25:21,787 --> 01:25:25,867
Speaker 2: Cup mets, or the continued success of the Proteas.

1696
01:25:26,187 --> 01:25:30,667
Speaker 20: It is a single and that is excellent from Nokia.

1697
01:25:30,907 --> 01:25:33,467
Speaker 2: They've just got to get this last delivery right, get

1698
01:25:33,507 --> 01:25:37,947
Speaker 2: your foot behind the line, go back Lantha swinging a

1699
01:25:38,027 --> 01:25:43,027
Speaker 2: mess from Joe Raja and South Africa continue. They're unbeaten

1700
01:25:43,147 --> 01:25:46,947
Speaker 2: run in this tournament, South Africa beating England by seven runs.

1701
01:25:46,987 --> 01:25:50,387
Speaker 2: There to the European Football Championship, which is in full

1702
01:25:50,467 --> 01:25:54,547
Speaker 2: swing now. Ukraine pulling off a come from behind victory

1703
01:25:54,547 --> 01:25:58,787
Speaker 2: over Slovakia. Your m chuck after it kidding Ham scoring.

1704
01:26:00,507 --> 01:26:05,187
Speaker 2: What a moment for Ukrainer Roman your own chuck.

1705
01:26:05,507 --> 01:26:09,467
Speaker 12: With what be the max winner, A super piece of

1706
01:26:09,587 --> 01:26:10,667
Speaker 12: skill and.

1707
01:26:10,787 --> 01:26:15,507
Speaker 2: An ice cool finish. Ukraine two Slovakia one. Austria too

1708
01:26:15,547 --> 01:26:19,427
Speaker 2: good for Poland winning three to one, brilliantly.

1709
01:26:18,987 --> 01:26:20,507
Speaker 3: Finished by marc On out of.

1710
01:26:20,427 --> 01:26:27,547
Speaker 19: Its Sursday given notice, big occasions demand bog players, and

1711
01:26:27,747 --> 01:26:31,147
Speaker 19: marc On out of its does it time and time again.

1712
01:26:31,067 --> 01:26:34,507
Speaker 2: And nothing could split or get past the goalkeepers of

1713
01:26:34,787 --> 01:26:38,387
Speaker 2: France or the Netherlands. Really but not quite.

1714
01:26:38,787 --> 01:26:43,427
Speaker 19: The first coldless game of euro twenty twenty four means

1715
01:26:43,467 --> 01:26:45,587
Speaker 19: that Group T goes.

1716
01:26:45,467 --> 01:26:46,107
Speaker 2: To the wire.

1717
01:26:46,387 --> 01:26:50,627
Speaker 19: Neither the Netherlands nor France can be entirely sure after

1718
01:26:50,707 --> 01:26:53,027
Speaker 19: a game of truth without penetration.

1719
01:26:53,267 --> 01:26:56,027
Speaker 2: Yeah, nil nil there. But by contrast, the All Whites

1720
01:26:56,227 --> 01:26:59,907
Speaker 2: have delivered a truckload of goals beating Vanuwa to four

1721
01:27:00,027 --> 01:27:03,667
Speaker 2: nil to move into the semi finals of the OFC

1722
01:27:03,787 --> 01:27:04,427
Speaker 2: Nations Cup.

1723
01:27:04,507 --> 01:27:07,667
Speaker 17: Elija just all lovely Cutch onto ben Old ties the

1724
01:27:07,707 --> 01:27:10,787
Speaker 17: fire that in water Shark ben Old.

1725
01:27:11,107 --> 01:27:13,627
Speaker 19: And ben Old makes.

1726
01:27:13,307 --> 01:27:14,227
Speaker 3: It for now.

1727
01:27:14,827 --> 01:27:20,667
Speaker 19: Elijah just outstanding today to assist one goal.

1728
01:27:21,347 --> 01:27:26,427
Speaker 1: Breaking down the hail Mary's and the epic fails weekends

1729
01:27:26,507 --> 01:27:28,907
Speaker 1: for it with Jason Vine News Talk.

1730
01:27:29,027 --> 01:27:32,507
Speaker 2: Zimby, Well, what a six months it has been for

1731
01:27:32,747 --> 01:27:36,867
Speaker 2: Paris bound three thousand meter steeple chaser Jordi Beamish. In

1732
01:27:36,947 --> 01:27:41,067
Speaker 2: January he decimated the New Zealand five thousand meter record

1733
01:27:41,147 --> 01:27:45,107
Speaker 2: running thirteen oh four thirty three at the John Thomas

1734
01:27:45,307 --> 01:27:49,907
Speaker 2: Terrier Classic at Boston University. Then in the fifteen hundred

1735
01:27:49,987 --> 01:27:53,907
Speaker 2: meter final at the World Indoor Champson Glasgow and March

1736
01:27:53,947 --> 01:27:54,627
Speaker 2: he did this.

1737
01:27:55,067 --> 01:27:59,387
Speaker 19: And look at beaversh Jordie Peevish chakes.

1738
01:27:59,147 --> 01:28:03,227
Speaker 2: Gold for New Zealand. The team from New Zealand are

1739
01:28:03,467 --> 01:28:10,027
Speaker 2: on fire in Glasgow, absolutely on fire, World Indoor champion

1740
01:28:10,067 --> 01:28:12,427
Speaker 2: in the fifteen hundred meters and as I say, off

1741
01:28:12,467 --> 01:28:15,307
Speaker 2: to Paris in the three thousand meters steeple chase. Jordy

1742
01:28:15,387 --> 01:28:18,107
Speaker 2: Beamish is with us on weekend Sport as he puts

1743
01:28:18,147 --> 01:28:22,627
Speaker 2: the final touches on his Olympic preparations. Just on that, Jordie,

1744
01:28:22,867 --> 01:28:24,187
Speaker 2: I caught one of the fact that you've been a

1745
01:28:24,187 --> 01:28:26,267
Speaker 2: bit croc lately, are you. Are you okay?

1746
01:28:26,307 --> 01:28:26,507
Speaker 16: Now?

1747
01:28:27,387 --> 01:28:29,307
Speaker 21: Yeah, well, Jason, you're well informed.

1748
01:28:29,987 --> 01:28:30,587
Speaker 3: I'm all right.

1749
01:28:31,227 --> 01:28:33,507
Speaker 21: I got I got really sick in Europe a few

1750
01:28:33,507 --> 01:28:36,467
Speaker 21: weeks ago, on a bit of a racing trip and

1751
01:28:37,427 --> 01:28:41,507
Speaker 21: just been struggling to knock knock this bug whatever it is.

1752
01:28:42,267 --> 01:28:46,267
Speaker 21: But got a doctor's appointment tomorrow and hoping to be

1753
01:28:46,307 --> 01:28:46,787
Speaker 21: on the mend.

1754
01:28:47,747 --> 01:28:51,947
Speaker 2: Asat it's terrible timing for something like this, she'd have

1755
01:28:51,987 --> 01:28:54,307
Speaker 2: to say, Is it in any way going to affect

1756
01:28:54,667 --> 01:28:56,107
Speaker 2: your build up to Paris?

1757
01:28:56,867 --> 01:29:01,667
Speaker 21: Well, it's better timing than six weeks from now. Yep, yeah,

1758
01:29:01,827 --> 01:29:05,827
Speaker 21: not built up. Still going to plan, you know, hasn't

1759
01:29:05,827 --> 01:29:10,307
Speaker 21: hasn't changed the racing schedule or you know, hasn't effected

1760
01:29:10,307 --> 01:29:14,307
Speaker 21: training too much. Just had to dial it back in

1761
01:29:14,347 --> 01:29:17,867
Speaker 21: the last couple of weeks. But otherwise all going to plan.

1762
01:29:19,107 --> 01:29:21,227
Speaker 21: You know it got one more race before the Olympics

1763
01:29:21,227 --> 01:29:25,387
Speaker 21: lined up on July seventh, so hopefully, hopefully I'll be

1764
01:29:25,387 --> 01:29:26,587
Speaker 21: feeling one hundred percent by then.

1765
01:29:26,787 --> 01:29:29,227
Speaker 2: Well it's been quite the year for you, mate. You

1766
01:29:29,267 --> 01:29:31,827
Speaker 2: broke the New Zealand five thousand meter record in January,

1767
01:29:31,907 --> 01:29:34,107
Speaker 2: then you won gold in the fifteen hundred meters at

1768
01:29:34,107 --> 01:29:37,267
Speaker 2: the World Indoor Champs in Glasgow in March. Can we

1769
01:29:37,347 --> 01:29:38,867
Speaker 2: zero one on that? How do you reflect on that

1770
01:29:38,907 --> 01:29:39,987
Speaker 2: performance in Glasgow?

1771
01:29:41,467 --> 01:29:45,667
Speaker 21: Yeah, yeah, it's been it's been a hell of a year. Yeah,

1772
01:29:45,707 --> 01:29:50,667
Speaker 21: that performance in Glasgow was definitely the highlight. Just I mean,

1773
01:29:50,787 --> 01:29:53,787
Speaker 21: such an incredible weekend by the New Zealand team as

1774
01:29:53,787 --> 01:29:56,547
Speaker 21: a whole and just just so special to be a

1775
01:29:56,587 --> 01:29:59,107
Speaker 21: part of and to kind of put the icing on

1776
01:29:59,147 --> 01:30:03,787
Speaker 21: the cake in the last event of the weekend was

1777
01:30:03,787 --> 01:30:06,987
Speaker 21: was really really special and you know share it with

1778
01:30:07,147 --> 01:30:09,907
Speaker 21: Hamish and Tom and the rest of the New Zealand team.

1779
01:30:09,987 --> 01:30:11,627
Speaker 21: Was was was incredible.

1780
01:30:12,147 --> 01:30:16,907
Speaker 2: Did you have expectations of a podium finish, a gold

1781
01:30:16,947 --> 01:30:18,107
Speaker 2: medal heading into the event.

1782
01:30:20,147 --> 01:30:23,987
Speaker 21: I don't know about expectations, but in the fifteen hundred

1783
01:30:24,027 --> 01:30:28,747
Speaker 21: and you know, in the middle distance events, you know anything,

1784
01:30:28,747 --> 01:30:32,107
Speaker 21: anything's possible, and you know you see it time and

1785
01:30:32,107 --> 01:30:34,867
Speaker 21: time again, that that the favorites don't always come.

1786
01:30:34,667 --> 01:30:35,267
Speaker 3: Out on top.

1787
01:30:35,347 --> 01:30:38,947
Speaker 21: And in a tactical race, yeah, you kind of have

1788
01:30:39,027 --> 01:30:42,827
Speaker 21: to just put yourself in it and have a go.

1789
01:30:44,747 --> 01:30:46,787
Speaker 2: I've read a couple of reports just to refresh my

1790
01:30:46,867 --> 01:30:50,467
Speaker 2: memory about it, and one I found was some terrific words. Here,

1791
01:30:50,507 --> 01:30:53,787
Speaker 2: a scintillating final lap and you came from the depths

1792
01:30:53,827 --> 01:30:57,467
Speaker 2: of Hell to what the rights, That's what it felt like.

1793
01:30:58,747 --> 01:30:59,987
Speaker 2: I don't know about the depths of Hell.

1794
01:31:00,067 --> 01:31:00,667
Speaker 6: I think I was.

1795
01:31:01,267 --> 01:31:03,827
Speaker 21: I mean, yeah, I was quite far back. I think

1796
01:31:03,827 --> 01:31:06,107
Speaker 21: I was in Maybe I was in six or seventh

1797
01:31:06,147 --> 01:31:11,707
Speaker 21: play with a lap to go, but didn't feel that

1798
01:31:11,787 --> 01:31:14,907
Speaker 21: far back at the time, and it seemed like my

1799
01:31:15,387 --> 01:31:17,347
Speaker 21: time in was good enough to get it done.

1800
01:31:17,787 --> 01:31:20,947
Speaker 2: So in breaking the five thousand meter New Zealand record,

1801
01:31:20,987 --> 01:31:23,227
Speaker 2: you now own that and the three thousand meters steeple

1802
01:31:23,267 --> 01:31:27,907
Speaker 2: chase national record. What has led to your improvements over

1803
01:31:27,947 --> 01:31:30,627
Speaker 2: those distances and all your distances really over the past

1804
01:31:30,627 --> 01:31:31,387
Speaker 2: eighteen months or so.

1805
01:31:33,187 --> 01:31:34,027
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it.

1806
01:31:33,987 --> 01:31:37,307
Speaker 21: Has felt like in the last eighteen months, you know,

1807
01:31:37,387 --> 01:31:40,627
Speaker 21: things have started to click over over quite a range

1808
01:31:40,627 --> 01:31:43,467
Speaker 21: of distances, and I think it's just a testament to

1809
01:31:44,827 --> 01:31:51,387
Speaker 21: committing to the sport really, and the committing to the

1810
01:31:51,387 --> 01:31:55,507
Speaker 21: sport and the training for what feels like quite a

1811
01:31:55,507 --> 01:31:58,667
Speaker 21: long time. At this point, I'm not as young as

1812
01:31:58,667 --> 01:32:03,387
Speaker 21: I was. I'm twenty seven now, and sometimes in a

1813
01:32:03,387 --> 01:32:08,187
Speaker 21: sport like running, it's just it's one where you've got

1814
01:32:08,227 --> 01:32:10,507
Speaker 21: to put a lot of time into it and a

1815
01:32:10,547 --> 01:32:13,587
Speaker 21: lot of years. And I think it's just the consistency

1816
01:32:13,707 --> 01:32:17,347
Speaker 21: over the last few years, you know, adding on to

1817
01:32:17,427 --> 01:32:21,867
Speaker 21: what's probably ten years of training at a fairly high

1818
01:32:21,947 --> 01:32:26,467
Speaker 21: levels has meant that I was kind of able to

1819
01:32:26,467 --> 01:32:29,107
Speaker 21: make finally make that kind of jump I've been waiting

1820
01:32:29,147 --> 01:32:33,187
Speaker 21: for for what felt like ages, but was kind of

1821
01:32:33,187 --> 01:32:35,547
Speaker 21: able to make that jump in the last yeah, year

1822
01:32:35,547 --> 01:32:36,707
Speaker 21: and a half couple of years.

1823
01:32:37,107 --> 01:32:39,267
Speaker 2: What does that look like training wise, Jordie, Have you

1824
01:32:39,387 --> 01:32:43,027
Speaker 2: just been running more? Is it more specific types of training?

1825
01:32:43,067 --> 01:32:46,027
Speaker 2: What have you done, if anything, differently over the last

1826
01:32:46,027 --> 01:32:47,547
Speaker 2: eighteen months.

1827
01:32:48,787 --> 01:32:51,707
Speaker 21: For the most part, it's doing doing the same stuff

1828
01:32:51,867 --> 01:32:55,187
Speaker 21: over and over again for as long as you can basically.

1829
01:32:55,747 --> 01:33:00,107
Speaker 21: But I think probably the main thing was was kind

1830
01:33:00,107 --> 01:33:03,107
Speaker 21: of getting out of an injury cycle, which I probably

1831
01:33:03,147 --> 01:33:08,787
Speaker 21: struggled with throughout college in the US, you know, from

1832
01:33:10,267 --> 01:33:13,307
Speaker 21: came in when I went to college twenty sixteen, kind

1833
01:33:13,307 --> 01:33:17,067
Speaker 21: of through It's been a long time, probably twenty sixteen

1834
01:33:17,107 --> 01:33:21,467
Speaker 21: through twenty twenty one, you know, five years or so,

1835
01:33:21,507 --> 01:33:25,787
Speaker 21: they'd kind of not been able to get a you know,

1836
01:33:25,987 --> 01:33:27,787
Speaker 21: not even been able to put together four to six

1837
01:33:27,827 --> 01:33:31,347
Speaker 21: months of consistent training without without a big sit back,

1838
01:33:31,947 --> 01:33:35,587
Speaker 21: and so, yeah, I think the difference in the last

1839
01:33:35,627 --> 01:33:39,827
Speaker 21: couple of years has just been able to get get

1840
01:33:39,827 --> 01:33:41,947
Speaker 21: healthy enough where my body's in a place where I

1841
01:33:41,947 --> 01:33:44,787
Speaker 21: can where I can run a bit more than I

1842
01:33:44,867 --> 01:33:48,827
Speaker 21: used to and run consistently. And yeah, just put a

1843
01:33:49,187 --> 01:33:51,027
Speaker 21: put a big block of training together over the last

1844
01:33:51,027 --> 01:33:51,587
Speaker 21: couple of years.

1845
01:33:52,067 --> 01:33:55,867
Speaker 2: So the three thousand meters steeple chase in Paris, was

1846
01:33:55,867 --> 01:33:58,747
Speaker 2: there any thought to having a crack at the fifteen

1847
01:33:58,827 --> 01:34:01,667
Speaker 2: hundred meters or the five thousand as well, or was

1848
01:34:01,667 --> 01:34:04,347
Speaker 2: it always the plan to focus on just the three

1849
01:34:04,347 --> 01:34:05,387
Speaker 2: thousand steeple chase.

1850
01:34:07,347 --> 01:34:12,747
Speaker 21: The schedule makes it very difficult, I believe I definitely

1851
01:34:13,027 --> 01:34:14,387
Speaker 21: didn't want to have a go at the five k.

1852
01:34:16,987 --> 01:34:19,547
Speaker 21: Running a five k in the heat of a European

1853
01:34:19,587 --> 01:34:24,867
Speaker 21: summer is absolutely brutal and I'm not I'm not cut

1854
01:34:24,867 --> 01:34:27,547
Speaker 21: out for that. So I that decision was pretty easy.

1855
01:34:28,427 --> 01:34:31,867
Speaker 21: I really really struggle in the heat and those those

1856
01:34:31,907 --> 01:34:37,787
Speaker 21: European five k's are brutal, and fifteen hundred, you know,

1857
01:34:37,867 --> 01:34:42,107
Speaker 21: that wasn't even an option until until running that standard

1858
01:34:42,987 --> 01:34:47,467
Speaker 21: only a few weeks ago. And so, but the I

1859
01:34:47,507 --> 01:34:53,787
Speaker 21: think the fifteen hundred final is I think the first

1860
01:34:53,867 --> 01:34:56,507
Speaker 21: round of the steeple happens before the final of the

1861
01:34:56,507 --> 01:34:58,547
Speaker 21: fifteen they're kind of they're kind of at the same time.

1862
01:34:58,627 --> 01:35:04,187
Speaker 21: So yes, it's pretty much impossible, but no, all all

1863
01:35:04,227 --> 01:35:05,827
Speaker 21: eyes on the steeple. That's that's kind of been the

1864
01:35:05,827 --> 01:35:08,867
Speaker 21: focus for the US, you know, for the last year.

1865
01:35:09,027 --> 01:35:10,547
Speaker 21: That's kind of always been the plane.

1866
01:35:10,707 --> 01:35:12,707
Speaker 2: You're going to be the first New Zealand steeple chaser

1867
01:35:12,747 --> 01:35:15,987
Speaker 2: at in the Olympics in forty years. Looking forward to

1868
01:35:16,027 --> 01:35:19,227
Speaker 2: seeing someone with a black singleer do it again after

1869
01:35:19,267 --> 01:35:20,987
Speaker 2: all this time. What is it about the event that you.

1870
01:35:21,107 --> 01:35:26,027
Speaker 21: Like, Yeah, I didn't know it had been that long.

1871
01:35:26,307 --> 01:35:29,427
Speaker 21: That's pretty cool. I think it's I think it's a

1872
01:35:29,467 --> 01:35:33,067
Speaker 21: really good combination of a few different things, kind of

1873
01:35:33,547 --> 01:35:37,467
Speaker 21: that nice distance in between fifteen hundred and five k

1874
01:35:37,587 --> 01:35:42,667
Speaker 21: and I mean cheat the hurdles. The hurdles hopefully provides

1875
01:35:42,707 --> 01:35:46,387
Speaker 21: them entertainment and some drama and you know, make things

1876
01:35:46,427 --> 01:35:50,827
Speaker 21: pretty interesting. And yeah, it means even more so anything

1877
01:35:50,827 --> 01:35:54,067
Speaker 21: can happened on that last lap of you know, people

1878
01:35:54,067 --> 01:35:56,827
Speaker 21: get caught up in the hurdles and yeah, I mean

1879
01:35:56,867 --> 01:35:59,267
Speaker 21: it's a lot of fun kind of learning a new

1880
01:35:59,307 --> 01:36:01,227
Speaker 21: skill and trying to get better and better at it

1881
01:36:02,547 --> 01:36:06,187
Speaker 21: each time you do it. And yeah, just nice change

1882
01:36:06,227 --> 01:36:07,307
Speaker 21: up from running on the flat.

1883
01:36:07,747 --> 01:36:10,707
Speaker 2: Have you thought about what you might might target beyond Paris?

1884
01:36:10,707 --> 01:36:12,907
Speaker 2: I know, the Olympics, so you focus it well and truly,

1885
01:36:12,987 --> 01:36:15,747
Speaker 2: but I mean will you become a like is this

1886
01:36:15,907 --> 01:36:16,947
Speaker 2: what you want to do? Would you want to be

1887
01:36:16,987 --> 01:36:20,867
Speaker 2: a fifteen hundred meter runner? Fifteen to five? You know, combination?

1888
01:36:20,987 --> 01:36:22,987
Speaker 2: What what have you? What have you're sort of thinking

1889
01:36:22,987 --> 01:36:24,307
Speaker 2: about beyond Paris?

1890
01:36:25,267 --> 01:36:27,547
Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean I think I think the combination works

1891
01:36:27,587 --> 01:36:31,507
Speaker 21: really well. I think, you know, it's a nice, nice

1892
01:36:31,547 --> 01:36:35,147
Speaker 21: way that sport has lined up in the winter, in

1893
01:36:35,187 --> 01:36:37,427
Speaker 21: the Northern Hemisphere winter that you know, we don't run

1894
01:36:37,467 --> 01:36:40,947
Speaker 21: the steel Chase from you know, I didn't even look

1895
01:36:40,987 --> 01:36:44,467
Speaker 21: at a hurdle from last September until probably April or

1896
01:36:44,547 --> 01:36:47,867
Speaker 21: May of this year, and then you can really focus

1897
01:36:47,907 --> 01:36:51,187
Speaker 21: on the on the flat events, and I think it

1898
01:36:51,227 --> 01:36:54,907
Speaker 21: boils down to, I mean, the steep even being good

1899
01:36:54,907 --> 01:36:59,187
Speaker 21: at the steeples as mostly about being as good a

1900
01:36:59,267 --> 01:37:02,627
Speaker 21: runner as possible on the flat. So I'm always going

1901
01:37:02,667 --> 01:37:06,387
Speaker 21: to run flat races, and hopefully we'll always target a

1902
01:37:06,387 --> 01:37:09,027
Speaker 21: a longer race, kind of like the five k in

1903
01:37:09,387 --> 01:37:11,227
Speaker 21: the winter, kind of in the early months of the year.

1904
01:37:12,227 --> 01:37:14,307
Speaker 21: You know, I would love to be the first New

1905
01:37:14,387 --> 01:37:18,227
Speaker 21: Zealand to crack thirteen minutes, and you know, similarly fifteen

1906
01:37:18,307 --> 01:37:21,427
Speaker 21: hundred and the mile. You know, I'd love to keep

1907
01:37:21,507 --> 01:37:28,147
Speaker 21: racing them outside of championships, but I feel like the

1908
01:37:28,187 --> 01:37:32,147
Speaker 21: steeple was is my best shot at a competing for

1909
01:37:32,147 --> 01:37:34,987
Speaker 21: a metal So that's going to be the focus set

1910
01:37:35,627 --> 01:37:38,547
Speaker 21: at Olympics and World champs in the in the next

1911
01:37:38,587 --> 01:37:39,867
Speaker 21: few years at least good stuff.

1912
01:37:39,867 --> 01:37:42,827
Speaker 2: So you mentioned before just one more race before Paris.

1913
01:37:42,827 --> 01:37:44,187
Speaker 2: You're still in Colorado at the moment.

1914
01:37:45,547 --> 01:37:49,467
Speaker 21: Yeah, still in Boulder, Colorado for a couple more weeks

1915
01:37:49,547 --> 01:37:53,867
Speaker 21: and then heading to Paris for the Paris Diamond League,

1916
01:37:54,467 --> 01:37:57,267
Speaker 21: getting around one more steeple chase there and then up

1917
01:37:57,347 --> 01:38:00,267
Speaker 21: to sam Retz for the last block of training before

1918
01:38:00,547 --> 01:38:01,667
Speaker 21: hitting down to Paris again.

1919
01:38:01,827 --> 01:38:06,507
Speaker 2: Amazing, have you ever fallen over in the water jump

1920
01:38:07,027 --> 01:38:08,067
Speaker 2: yep in.

1921
01:38:09,747 --> 01:38:15,147
Speaker 21: Twenty thirteen at our New Zealand Champs and the two

1922
01:38:15,187 --> 01:38:17,707
Speaker 21: case stee will chase when I was about sixteen.

1923
01:38:18,627 --> 01:38:20,587
Speaker 2: Well, we can put that well behind us. We can

1924
01:38:20,627 --> 01:38:22,827
Speaker 2: put that well behind us. Hey, Jordie, it's been great

1925
01:38:22,827 --> 01:38:24,067
Speaker 2: to get the chance to chat. I hope the health

1926
01:38:24,067 --> 01:38:27,427
Speaker 2: improves quickly, Mate. I hope the rest of your training block,

1927
01:38:27,467 --> 01:38:29,947
Speaker 2: et cetera goes really well. Can't wait to see how

1928
01:38:29,987 --> 01:38:32,667
Speaker 2: you go in the three thousand meters steeple chase in Paris. Mate,

1929
01:38:32,707 --> 01:38:35,427
Speaker 2: thanks for taking the time for a chat. Cheers, really

1930
01:38:35,467 --> 01:38:38,107
Speaker 2: appreciate it. No, appreciate your time, Jordi. Thanks indeed. Jordy

1931
01:38:38,147 --> 01:38:41,587
Speaker 2: Beamish there three thousand meters steeple chaser at the upcoming

1932
01:38:41,627 --> 01:38:45,307
Speaker 2: Paris Olympic Games one to look out for. His trajectory

1933
01:38:45,507 --> 01:38:47,547
Speaker 2: is well and truly on the up, smashing the New

1934
01:38:47,667 --> 01:38:50,867
Speaker 2: Zealand five thousand meter record in January, winning the World

1935
01:38:50,987 --> 01:38:54,427
Speaker 2: Indoor fifteen hundred meter final in March, and now fully

1936
01:38:54,467 --> 01:38:57,147
Speaker 2: focused on the three thousand meters steeple chase. The first

1937
01:38:57,507 --> 01:38:59,987
Speaker 2: New Zealand male, in fact, the first New Zealander. Because

1938
01:39:00,027 --> 01:39:02,547
Speaker 2: I don't think the females are on the three thousand steeples.

1939
01:39:02,747 --> 01:39:04,667
Speaker 2: I should know this, but certainly the first New Zealand

1940
01:39:04,747 --> 01:39:09,907
Speaker 2: mail to comat in that event since Peter Renner at

1941
01:39:09,907 --> 01:39:12,627
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Olympics all the way back in nineteen

1942
01:39:12,747 --> 01:39:15,547
Speaker 2: eighty four. Geordie Beamish want to look out for as

1943
01:39:15,627 --> 01:39:18,907
Speaker 2: Paris quickly comes into view two twenty three. It is

1944
01:39:18,947 --> 01:39:20,987
Speaker 2: the West and he's off to a sedate start, one

1945
01:39:21,507 --> 01:39:25,747
Speaker 2: without loss after three deliveries, only chasing one twenty nine

1946
01:39:25,827 --> 01:39:29,267
Speaker 2: to beat the United States in the T twenty Cricket

1947
01:39:29,267 --> 01:39:33,147
Speaker 2: World Cup Super eight segment. When we come back, we're

1948
01:39:33,147 --> 01:39:36,067
Speaker 2: off to the Gold Coast actually, where the Warriors are

1949
01:39:36,107 --> 01:39:38,187
Speaker 2: taking on the Titans a bit later on this afternoon.

1950
01:39:38,227 --> 01:39:40,707
Speaker 2: In fact, that game is at five o'clock. Gav says,

1951
01:39:40,707 --> 01:39:43,947
Speaker 2: I've just done a delivery at Kingsland and these Chiefs

1952
01:39:43,987 --> 01:39:49,267
Speaker 2: fans are keen. They're already hanging around outside Eden Park. Thanks, Jav.

1953
01:39:49,867 --> 01:39:52,747
Speaker 2: What are we now? We're still just on five hours

1954
01:39:52,787 --> 01:39:54,947
Speaker 2: away from kickoff? So you've got to get yourself prepared,

1955
01:39:54,947 --> 01:40:00,707
Speaker 2: don't you. They say that, you know, preparation prevents substandard performance.

1956
01:40:00,907 --> 01:40:03,627
Speaker 2: I'll paraphrase. So good to have the Chiefs fans there

1957
01:40:03,707 --> 01:40:06,147
Speaker 2: nice and early. If you're on your way up the

1958
01:40:07,347 --> 01:40:11,027
Speaker 2: up the highway to Auckland with your cowbells out the

1959
01:40:11,027 --> 01:40:15,707
Speaker 2: window and your chief's merchandise from head to tog of

1960
01:40:15,787 --> 01:40:17,787
Speaker 2: so Hell Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, begin

1961
01:40:17,867 --> 01:40:20,987
Speaker 2: to gauge your levels of optimism as you try and

1962
01:40:21,027 --> 01:40:23,387
Speaker 2: win Super Rugby for the first time since twenty thirteen

1963
01:40:23,747 --> 01:40:26,107
Speaker 2: to twenty four. As I say, when come back. Richard Agar,

1964
01:40:26,587 --> 01:40:28,587
Speaker 2: assistant coach at the Warriors ahead of their clash with

1965
01:40:28,627 --> 01:40:31,267
Speaker 2: the Titans, five o'clock this afternoon, the.

1966
01:40:31,387 --> 01:40:35,107
Speaker 1: Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport Weekend Sport

1967
01:40:35,187 --> 01:40:39,547
Speaker 1: with Jason Vain and GJ. Gunner Homes New Zealand's most trusted.

1968
01:40:39,227 --> 01:40:42,787
Speaker 2: Home builder News Talks two twenty seven Yes, confirming that

1969
01:40:42,787 --> 01:40:44,427
Speaker 2: the Yeah, the women do run the three thousand meters

1970
01:40:44,427 --> 01:40:47,227
Speaker 2: steple chase as well. The barriers are slightly lower for

1971
01:40:47,307 --> 01:40:49,547
Speaker 2: them than for the men, but we have an attachy.

1972
01:40:49,587 --> 01:40:52,027
Speaker 2: We're there in the men's events since Peter ran in

1973
01:40:52,107 --> 01:40:55,787
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four. Inside the Warriors camp. Shortly Johnno's on

1974
01:40:55,827 --> 01:40:58,827
Speaker 2: the road to Eden Park. But you're a Blues fan

1975
01:40:58,867 --> 01:41:00,627
Speaker 2: traveling from the coramandor.

1976
01:41:00,147 --> 01:41:03,747
Speaker 22: Mate yeah, that's one thing that's hard enough to live

1977
01:41:03,787 --> 01:41:05,667
Speaker 22: with down there, mate. But then I came over the

1978
01:41:05,707 --> 01:41:09,107
Speaker 22: bombays the crane up with the Chiefs. Then like the

1979
01:41:09,147 --> 01:41:17,467
Speaker 22: size of the bloody two story building. What it's nuts?

1980
01:41:17,627 --> 01:41:17,907
Speaker 7: You say?

1981
01:41:17,987 --> 01:41:21,947
Speaker 22: You hit the Chiefs, bloody big bamboos or banner and

1982
01:41:21,987 --> 01:41:24,667
Speaker 22: then you hit dreary traffic and it's like, off, I

1983
01:41:24,707 --> 01:41:26,427
Speaker 22: shouldn't be here, but I'm going to the game.

1984
01:41:26,347 --> 01:41:28,507
Speaker 2: So it should be a good So you come from

1985
01:41:28,507 --> 01:41:30,347
Speaker 2: the Coramander. What's that about? Normally about what about two

1986
01:41:30,347 --> 01:41:32,467
Speaker 2: and a half hour drive to get from from A

1987
01:41:32,507 --> 01:41:32,667
Speaker 2: to B.

1988
01:41:34,027 --> 01:41:36,587
Speaker 22: Yeah for young course, so two and a half three.

1989
01:41:36,867 --> 01:41:40,107
Speaker 22: But yeah, my brother surprised me and brought me kids.

1990
01:41:40,267 --> 01:41:43,867
Speaker 22: A long time grabbing the harbor and long time blues

1991
01:41:44,067 --> 01:41:45,347
Speaker 22: hoting supporter.

1992
01:41:45,387 --> 01:41:47,907
Speaker 18: One might say, brilliant.

1993
01:41:47,907 --> 01:41:50,227
Speaker 2: Oh well, look it's been a long time, as I've

1994
01:41:50,227 --> 01:41:52,987
Speaker 2: been saying across the afternoon, and as I'm sure you're aware,

1995
01:41:53,307 --> 01:41:54,907
Speaker 2: how old were you in two thousand and three?

1996
01:41:56,747 --> 01:42:01,827
Speaker 22: Oh, that's a long time ago. But I was happy

1997
01:42:01,827 --> 01:42:03,547
Speaker 22: for the one. I don't care at what age, It

1998
01:42:03,587 --> 01:42:08,427
Speaker 22: didn't matter who was god at that stage?

1999
01:42:08,467 --> 01:42:08,667
Speaker 11: Mate?

2000
01:42:09,107 --> 01:42:11,867
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely what a player? So are you driving back tonight?

2001
01:42:11,867 --> 01:42:14,267
Speaker 2: Are you're staying with your brother? What's the story now?

2002
01:42:14,427 --> 01:42:17,107
Speaker 22: Hanging out in the Green Heights and back tomorrow morning.

2003
01:42:17,147 --> 01:42:20,867
Speaker 22: But yeah, fingers toes everything christ Man. It would be

2004
01:42:20,907 --> 01:42:22,147
Speaker 22: so good if they can get over the line with

2005
01:42:22,187 --> 01:42:25,227
Speaker 22: the cheese. They're looking monstrous, aren't they. They're coming on fast.

2006
01:42:25,707 --> 01:42:28,707
Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, it's a it'll be a cracking game. I'm almost,

2007
01:42:28,707 --> 01:42:30,907
Speaker 2: as I said before, quite pleased. They've got no dog

2008
01:42:30,947 --> 01:42:31,347
Speaker 2: in this fight.

2009
01:42:31,387 --> 01:42:31,587
Speaker 6: Mate.

2010
01:42:31,627 --> 01:42:35,427
Speaker 2: You'll be buying the nails for eighty minutes. Travel safe

2011
01:42:35,427 --> 01:42:36,947
Speaker 2: for the rest of the journey, JOHNO, thanks for Corley

2012
01:42:36,987 --> 01:42:37,827
Speaker 2: made all the best tonight.

2013
01:42:39,027 --> 01:42:40,827
Speaker 22: Thanks piny and love your show mate.

2014
01:42:41,827 --> 01:42:43,067
Speaker 6: Cheers brother tom Man.

2015
01:42:43,147 --> 01:42:44,867
Speaker 2: John I thanks, but I really appreciate that. Thank you

2016
01:42:44,987 --> 01:42:48,067
Speaker 2: very much. Indeed, two twenty nine it US seven oh

2017
01:42:48,147 --> 01:42:50,507
Speaker 2: five kickoff at Eden Park, jam packed. It will be tonight.

2018
01:42:50,547 --> 01:42:55,027
Speaker 2: What an occasion. Yeah, I just think it'll be terrific

2019
01:42:55,067 --> 01:42:57,947
Speaker 2: if you're going along, Yeah, just get amongst it. It's

2020
01:42:57,947 --> 01:43:00,547
Speaker 2: been a good Super Rugby season. I think the you know,

2021
01:43:01,107 --> 01:43:04,707
Speaker 2: there's always people who are willing to you know, to

2022
01:43:04,787 --> 01:43:07,907
Speaker 2: find fault and also of things. But yeah, I think

2023
01:43:07,947 --> 01:43:10,147
Speaker 2: this is a fitting finale to what has been a

2024
01:43:10,227 --> 01:43:13,067
Speaker 2: very good Super Rugby season. Let's get to Rugby League

2025
01:43:13,067 --> 01:43:15,747
Speaker 2: in RL Round sixteen, Warriors on the Gold Coast to

2026
01:43:15,747 --> 01:43:18,747
Speaker 2: face the Titans five o'clock this afternoon. Last time out

2027
01:43:18,747 --> 01:43:19,987
Speaker 2: for the Warriors are.

2028
01:43:20,187 --> 01:43:22,827
Speaker 20: Very good one for Melbourne that will be one of

2029
01:43:22,867 --> 01:43:24,547
Speaker 20: the best ones for them this season.

2030
01:43:25,307 --> 01:43:28,507
Speaker 22: The Storm win by thirty eight points to twenty.

2031
01:43:28,227 --> 01:43:30,187
Speaker 2: Four, so the Warriors looking to bounce back from that.

2032
01:43:30,347 --> 01:43:33,067
Speaker 2: Assistant coach Richard Agar joins us from the Gold Coast. Richard,

2033
01:43:33,067 --> 01:43:34,707
Speaker 2: thanks for your time, mate. What are the main things

2034
01:43:34,987 --> 01:43:37,947
Speaker 2: review Your review of that loss to the Storm threw

2035
01:43:38,067 --> 01:43:39,427
Speaker 2: up when you had to look back at it.

2036
01:43:40,787 --> 01:43:43,427
Speaker 20: Jason, thanks for having me on the show, mate. Yeah,

2037
01:43:43,467 --> 01:43:46,547
Speaker 20: interesting question because you know, the pretty interesting game for us.

2038
01:43:47,267 --> 01:43:49,827
Speaker 20: We fell. You know, our starts of the game were

2039
01:43:49,867 --> 01:43:53,827
Speaker 20: really good and when we looked, I guess statistically I

2040
01:43:53,867 --> 01:43:55,307
Speaker 20: were performed in the game and a lot of the

2041
01:43:55,307 --> 01:43:57,627
Speaker 20: stuff around his defense, you know, in terms of wook

2042
01:43:57,667 --> 01:44:00,547
Speaker 20: control and our field position.

2043
01:44:00,547 --> 01:44:01,987
Speaker 7: Were really really good.

2044
01:44:02,587 --> 01:44:05,387
Speaker 20: When we looked at the I guess the big moments

2045
01:44:05,387 --> 01:44:07,467
Speaker 20: in the game, you know, all smashed off us for

2046
01:44:07,507 --> 01:44:11,907
Speaker 20: a try, we spilled the ball on last play, the

2047
01:44:11,947 --> 01:44:14,027
Speaker 20: line break, we conceded, we had a man down injured,

2048
01:44:14,147 --> 01:44:17,147
Speaker 20: you know, and that's sort of no great excuse, we

2049
01:44:17,187 --> 01:44:20,947
Speaker 20: could have handled that better, but we actually felt that

2050
01:44:20,947 --> 01:44:23,867
Speaker 20: that and you know, the period where we had twelve

2051
01:44:23,947 --> 01:44:26,827
Speaker 20: men and eleven men, there were some really big moments

2052
01:44:26,867 --> 01:44:30,707
Speaker 20: and damaging moments, but throughout the sort of I guess

2053
01:44:31,067 --> 01:44:35,467
Speaker 20: armoss l areas of the game and statistically we actually

2054
01:44:35,467 --> 01:44:37,707
Speaker 20: did a lot of things pretty well in the game.

2055
01:44:38,547 --> 01:44:41,027
Speaker 20: So I think, you know, it's it's a lesson in

2056
01:44:41,347 --> 01:44:44,027
Speaker 20: the big moments and on in the big moments, and

2057
01:44:44,107 --> 01:44:47,307
Speaker 20: certainly playing against sidellite Melbourne that I guess for a

2058
01:44:47,347 --> 01:44:51,027
Speaker 20: long long time they've been used to hanging in games

2059
01:44:51,067 --> 01:44:54,187
Speaker 20: and waiting for opportunities, and yeah, yeah they took them.

2060
01:44:54,227 --> 01:44:57,067
Speaker 20: Look coming off the field and looking at the scoreboard

2061
01:44:57,147 --> 01:45:05,387
Speaker 20: with thirty eight points. Yeah, on review, we've come away thinking, no,

2062
01:45:05,467 --> 01:45:07,467
Speaker 20: how did that happen? We've done a lot of things

2063
01:45:07,507 --> 01:45:10,107
Speaker 20: right in that game to thirty eight points put on us.

2064
01:45:10,427 --> 01:45:13,267
Speaker 20: At the same time, I think, you know, we need

2065
01:45:13,307 --> 01:45:16,867
Speaker 20: to probably get a little bit more fluent see through

2066
01:45:16,907 --> 01:45:19,747
Speaker 20: our spine again. You know, we had some changes there

2067
01:45:21,347 --> 01:45:24,147
Speaker 20: and you know, some combinations that have not been together

2068
01:45:24,187 --> 01:45:26,107
Speaker 20: for a number of weeks, and I think that's that's

2069
01:45:26,107 --> 01:45:28,787
Speaker 20: certainly an improvement we'll look at this week and then

2070
01:45:28,827 --> 01:45:29,947
Speaker 20: in and around our kicking gain.

2071
01:45:30,787 --> 01:45:33,347
Speaker 2: You've obviously I got some changes this week as well,

2072
01:45:33,387 --> 01:45:36,387
Speaker 2: with suppliers out for various reasons, some of them good ones,

2073
01:45:36,627 --> 01:45:39,667
Speaker 2: Capel much bean it of course on Origin duty. You've

2074
01:45:39,667 --> 01:45:42,827
Speaker 2: got Dellan out for a week with suspension, Roco Beery's ejured.

2075
01:45:43,347 --> 01:45:46,507
Speaker 2: You feel like you've got the kettle to cover those losses.

2076
01:45:46,667 --> 01:45:50,787
Speaker 20: Ruch, Yeah, I think I think we have definitely, I

2077
01:45:50,827 --> 01:45:54,547
Speaker 20: think squad det for something that we're really happy about during.

2078
01:45:54,267 --> 01:45:55,067
Speaker 11: The course of the year.

2079
01:45:55,427 --> 01:45:58,627
Speaker 20: I think the flip side to that is we probably

2080
01:45:58,707 --> 01:46:01,827
Speaker 20: haven't had the continuity in his line up over long periods.

2081
01:46:01,867 --> 01:46:03,987
Speaker 20: You know, we looked at our team coming back last

2082
01:46:04,027 --> 01:46:06,227
Speaker 20: week and it will probably as stronger team as we

2083
01:46:06,427 --> 01:46:10,427
Speaker 20: that out for a number of weeks. But nonetheless, I

2084
01:46:10,467 --> 01:46:12,347
Speaker 20: still think you look down our team sheet and the

2085
01:46:12,347 --> 01:46:15,627
Speaker 20: guys coming in, you know, more than capable guys. Obviously,

2086
01:46:15,707 --> 01:46:17,387
Speaker 20: Roger comes back in the back line.

2087
01:46:18,387 --> 01:46:18,987
Speaker 16: Ed Coss is the.

2088
01:46:18,987 --> 01:46:24,627
Speaker 20: Player that's got twenty a first grade experience, and you know,

2089
01:46:24,707 --> 01:46:27,427
Speaker 20: the two guys that are playing Origin. I think first thing, Sirce,

2090
01:46:27,467 --> 01:46:30,467
Speaker 20: we you know We're extremely happy, not only happy for

2091
01:46:30,507 --> 01:46:33,707
Speaker 20: those two guys, but really proud that our clubs providing

2092
01:46:33,747 --> 01:46:38,027
Speaker 20: guys for both Origin teams this week. But yeah, I

2093
01:46:38,107 --> 01:46:40,987
Speaker 20: think I still think we've got enough depth and experience

2094
01:46:41,827 --> 01:46:44,587
Speaker 20: to get a side out there that's strong enough to

2095
01:46:44,587 --> 01:46:45,107
Speaker 20: do the job.

2096
01:46:45,667 --> 01:46:48,307
Speaker 2: On the flip side, of course, Roger Tivasa Chick is

2097
01:46:48,387 --> 01:46:52,787
Speaker 2: bec having missed the last five matches. It's a Sully question.

2098
01:46:52,907 --> 01:46:54,507
Speaker 2: I know I have big a boost is it going

2099
01:46:54,587 --> 01:46:56,267
Speaker 2: to be? But what are you what are you expecting

2100
01:46:56,267 --> 01:46:57,747
Speaker 2: from Roger upon his return?

2101
01:46:59,547 --> 01:47:01,427
Speaker 20: One thing about Roger what we know You know that

2102
01:47:01,827 --> 01:47:05,747
Speaker 20: his level of professionalism is probably unmatched anywhere in sport

2103
01:47:05,867 --> 01:47:10,787
Speaker 20: and he's back looking lucky sharp. I think the X

2104
01:47:10,907 --> 01:47:12,667
Speaker 20: week has really helped him in terms of we've been

2105
01:47:12,707 --> 01:47:15,507
Speaker 20: able to get some more training into him and integrating

2106
01:47:15,627 --> 01:47:18,907
Speaker 20: more into our fault team practice and unit practice, which

2107
01:47:18,907 --> 01:47:21,507
Speaker 20: you were probably a little bit short last week. But

2108
01:47:21,587 --> 01:47:26,147
Speaker 20: Roger's really excited by the challenge and the challenge this

2109
01:47:26,187 --> 01:47:27,787
Speaker 20: week for him is is a good one.

2110
01:47:27,827 --> 01:47:27,987
Speaker 7: You know.

2111
01:47:28,107 --> 01:47:31,787
Speaker 20: I think Brian Kelly for the Titans has been a

2112
01:47:31,827 --> 01:47:35,107
Speaker 20: real shining like for them. Is an unpredictable player that

2113
01:47:35,187 --> 01:47:38,347
Speaker 20: makes things happen, and I think, you know, Roger coming

2114
01:47:38,427 --> 01:47:41,547
Speaker 20: up again, there'll be two guys that both want the

2115
01:47:41,587 --> 01:47:43,987
Speaker 20: ball in the hand, both can make things happen when

2116
01:47:43,987 --> 01:47:47,347
Speaker 20: there's not a lot harm and it'll be a terrific contest.

2117
01:47:47,347 --> 01:47:50,307
Speaker 20: But Roger's got a great presence for us on the

2118
01:47:50,347 --> 01:47:53,107
Speaker 20: training field and our game day. So yeah, we're super

2119
01:47:53,107 --> 01:47:53,947
Speaker 20: glaps having back.

2120
01:47:54,227 --> 01:47:56,547
Speaker 2: Can you win in to the Titans twenty seven twenty

2121
01:47:56,547 --> 01:47:59,467
Speaker 2: four on Anzick Dire Any listens rich from that game

2122
01:47:59,467 --> 01:48:00,667
Speaker 2: that you'll take into this one?

2123
01:48:02,467 --> 01:48:04,707
Speaker 20: Yeah, I reckon, So I reckon. There's some good lessons

2124
01:48:04,707 --> 01:48:06,147
Speaker 20: to come out of that game. You know, there are

2125
01:48:06,147 --> 01:48:08,587
Speaker 20: team that I love playing shut us down on the

2126
01:48:08,667 --> 01:48:11,307
Speaker 20: edges a little bit, and I think I think during

2127
01:48:11,347 --> 01:48:14,027
Speaker 20: that game, you know, one review we look back, we

2128
01:48:14,147 --> 01:48:16,627
Speaker 20: probably had a lot of scoring opportunities in that game

2129
01:48:16,627 --> 01:48:19,307
Speaker 20: that we didn't quite ice and perhaps got a little

2130
01:48:19,307 --> 01:48:22,347
Speaker 20: bit frustrated when we got into good attacking positions. I

2131
01:48:22,347 --> 01:48:25,427
Speaker 20: think that's something at the weekend that it would feel,

2132
01:48:25,707 --> 01:48:28,587
Speaker 20: you know, fulfilled those occasions that that's happening that you know,

2133
01:48:28,627 --> 01:48:30,987
Speaker 20: we just got to stay composed and play the longer

2134
01:48:31,027 --> 01:48:32,267
Speaker 20: game a little bit, all right.

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Speaker 2: Roight, John know You've got team meetings, etcetera to get to,

2136
01:48:34,107 --> 01:48:35,987
Speaker 2: so I appreciate your time. Thanks for joining us, Richard

2137
01:48:35,987 --> 01:48:38,827
Speaker 2: I Gard They're assistant coach of the Warriors. Five o'clock

2138
01:48:38,827 --> 01:48:41,307
Speaker 2: this afternoon they take on the Titans, bottom of the table,

2139
01:48:41,627 --> 01:48:43,627
Speaker 2: although as I mentioned there, they beat the Warriors on

2140
01:48:43,707 --> 01:48:46,427
Speaker 2: an ZEC day. So let's say the Warriors jump back

2141
01:48:46,427 --> 01:48:49,467
Speaker 2: on that winning horse and get a win at it

2142
01:48:49,587 --> 01:48:51,147
Speaker 2: was at Sea Bus. Is that the name of the

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01:48:51,147 --> 01:48:53,227
Speaker 2: stadium on the Gold Coast? I can picture it. I've

2144
01:48:53,307 --> 01:48:55,627
Speaker 2: driven past it a couple of times. That's where the

2145
01:48:55,627 --> 01:48:58,947
Speaker 2: Titans play five o'clock this afternoon, leading nicely into kickoff

2146
01:48:58,947 --> 01:49:02,307
Speaker 2: and the rugby at just after seven. Leon on email

2147
01:49:02,307 --> 01:49:04,507
Speaker 2: from Melbourne, get a piney. The last month, I've seen

2148
01:49:04,507 --> 01:49:07,467
Speaker 2: a number of legendary athletes pass in the United States.

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01:49:07,467 --> 01:49:11,187
Speaker 2: First Bill Walton, an NBA Hall of Famer, TV sportscaster

2150
01:49:11,547 --> 01:49:15,547
Speaker 2: widely considered the second best collegiate player ever after Kaem

2151
01:49:15,987 --> 01:49:19,107
Speaker 2: Then another NBA Hall of Famer and elite executive, Jerry

2152
01:49:19,187 --> 01:49:22,267
Speaker 2: West the logo passing soon after, and only three days

2153
01:49:22,267 --> 01:49:24,707
Speaker 2: ago Baseball Hall of famer Will he May He's passed

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01:49:24,707 --> 01:49:27,507
Speaker 2: away as well. The say hey kid is widely regarded

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01:49:27,547 --> 01:49:29,387
Speaker 2: as one of the greatest players of all time. Too

2156
01:49:29,427 --> 01:49:31,827
Speaker 2: many SATs to list a couple that are worth mentioning those,

2157
01:49:31,827 --> 01:49:34,507
Speaker 2: says Leon. The only MLB player in history to have

2158
01:49:34,587 --> 01:49:36,867
Speaker 2: a career batting average of three hundred, he stole over

2159
01:49:36,947 --> 01:49:40,067
Speaker 2: three hundred bases. He finished his career on six hundred

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01:49:40,067 --> 01:49:42,387
Speaker 2: and sixty home runs, but would have easily passed seven

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01:49:42,467 --> 01:49:45,107
Speaker 2: hundred if not taking a two year sabbatical to serve

2162
01:49:45,147 --> 01:49:47,427
Speaker 2: in the army. And this was well before the steroid

2163
01:49:47,467 --> 01:49:50,867
Speaker 2: era too. Incredibly, he played twenty two seasons and was

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01:49:50,907 --> 01:49:53,507
Speaker 2: an All Star twenty four times. Some of the greatest

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01:49:53,547 --> 01:49:55,747
Speaker 2: athletes gone, but they've certainly left a legacy up there

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01:49:55,747 --> 01:49:58,827
Speaker 2: with the greatest of their sporting peers. Indeed, Leon, always

2167
01:49:58,907 --> 01:50:02,867
Speaker 2: enjoy your correspondence, Mate, Thanks for your email, A and

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01:50:02,907 --> 01:50:04,067
Speaker 2: are you off to the game tonight?

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01:50:05,347 --> 01:50:09,227
Speaker 9: No, no, Jason, I'm sorry about last week. I was

2170
01:50:09,267 --> 01:50:13,827
Speaker 9: in a sort of a gibbery talking situation and things

2171
01:50:13,907 --> 01:50:17,027
Speaker 9: weren't going too far, so I talk pretty quick now.

2172
01:50:17,107 --> 01:50:19,307
Speaker 9: I'm not going I'm down here in the naki, mate,

2173
01:50:19,347 --> 01:50:22,107
Speaker 9: but I got some money on the Chief East. But

2174
01:50:22,387 --> 01:50:25,587
Speaker 9: I did tell you I had changed many what about

2175
01:50:25,627 --> 01:50:27,707
Speaker 9: three years ago with the Chiefs. I've been with them

2176
01:50:27,707 --> 01:50:31,067
Speaker 9: now and i'm with most of them now, But I

2177
01:50:31,147 --> 01:50:34,627
Speaker 9: just wanted to say today there's a special day down here.

2178
01:50:34,707 --> 01:50:39,267
Speaker 9: Made it so I've got this all organized, so we

2179
01:50:39,347 --> 01:50:41,947
Speaker 9: call it. I'm going to call it Happy Saturday.

2180
01:50:43,107 --> 01:50:44,027
Speaker 2: Happy Saturday.

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01:50:44,907 --> 01:50:46,547
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a holiday.

2182
01:50:48,987 --> 01:50:52,027
Speaker 2: So you're expecting big you're expeeding big things from your

2183
01:50:52,187 --> 01:50:56,187
Speaker 2: well recently newly adopted Chiefs tonight, you know, are you well?

2184
01:50:56,267 --> 01:51:00,067
Speaker 9: I'm hoping here. I put a little squander on them

2185
01:51:00,107 --> 01:51:03,387
Speaker 9: on yesterday, so you know I've done it right. Actually,

2186
01:51:03,467 --> 01:51:07,547
Speaker 9: I got some money off your hurricanes about month they

2187
01:51:07,587 --> 01:51:09,787
Speaker 9: played Somebody and I got a good whack out of that.

2188
01:51:09,947 --> 01:51:12,467
Speaker 9: So I'm trying again to see how I go. But

2189
01:51:12,787 --> 01:51:14,827
Speaker 9: I have to catch up with all these other guys

2190
01:51:14,907 --> 01:51:16,907
Speaker 9: that are on the radio with the footy. I haven't

2191
01:51:16,987 --> 01:51:19,227
Speaker 9: rung here for sort of weeks, you know, I missed

2192
01:51:19,227 --> 01:51:19,507
Speaker 9: a lot.

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01:51:20,427 --> 01:51:22,907
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Ian mate, you know the number, it's you

2194
01:51:22,947 --> 01:51:24,987
Speaker 2: can always call. I do have to get to Blair

2195
01:51:25,067 --> 01:51:27,027
Speaker 2: Chuke in New York, so you'll you'll forgive me for

2196
01:51:27,467 --> 01:51:30,507
Speaker 2: ending this conversation here, but ring back anytime, Always happy

2197
01:51:30,547 --> 01:51:32,827
Speaker 2: to chat. Take some jib from you and all the

2198
01:51:32,827 --> 01:51:36,547
Speaker 2: beast to your chiefs tonight. Look like I say I've

2199
01:51:36,587 --> 01:51:39,027
Speaker 2: said a number of times, I actually don't care who wins.

2200
01:51:40,707 --> 01:51:43,467
Speaker 2: Very interested in watching the game. A couple of positional

2201
01:51:43,507 --> 01:51:47,187
Speaker 2: matchups I'm very interested in. So yeah, all the best

2202
01:51:47,227 --> 01:51:49,187
Speaker 2: if you are on one of the two sides tonight.

2203
01:51:49,267 --> 01:51:52,507
Speaker 2: In terms of your fandom, New York is the latest

2204
01:51:52,507 --> 01:51:56,187
Speaker 2: stop in sal GP. Black Foils, Wing Tromtt and co

2205
01:51:56,387 --> 01:51:59,947
Speaker 2: CEO Blair Chuke from Manhattan. When we come back.

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01:52:01,387 --> 01:52:05,187
Speaker 1: The Big issues on and after Fields Call eight hundred

2207
01:52:05,267 --> 01:52:07,867
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty week in Sport with Jason.

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01:52:07,627 --> 01:52:08,667
Speaker 3: Fine and GJ.

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Speaker 1: Gunder Homes New Zealand's was Trusted Home Bilder News.

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01:52:12,027 --> 01:52:15,907
Speaker 2: Talk eighteen and a half away from three, su GP

2211
01:52:16,027 --> 01:52:18,187
Speaker 2: hitched New York this weekend, the last event before the

2212
01:52:18,227 --> 01:52:21,467
Speaker 2: season finale in San Francisco in July, and the first

2213
01:52:21,467 --> 01:52:23,747
Speaker 2: time an event's been held in the US since season

2214
01:52:23,827 --> 01:52:27,987
Speaker 2: one of sau GP. This is season four. Black Foyle's

2215
01:52:28,027 --> 01:52:30,867
Speaker 2: co CEO and wing trumer Blair Chuke, joins us on

2216
01:52:30,907 --> 01:52:33,267
Speaker 2: Weekend Sport. But before we look ahead to the weekend,

2217
01:52:33,267 --> 01:52:35,307
Speaker 2: how do you reflect back on the last event in

2218
01:52:35,387 --> 01:52:38,467
Speaker 2: Halifax and Canada and your fifth placing there.

2219
01:52:39,347 --> 01:52:42,867
Speaker 12: Yeah, the race weekend in Canada asuling wasn't now our

2220
01:52:42,907 --> 01:52:45,507
Speaker 12: best showing how we'd be the first to admit that,

2221
01:52:45,867 --> 01:52:48,987
Speaker 12: you know, we've been on a real nice role of

2222
01:52:49,107 --> 01:52:54,627
Speaker 12: the last six months and you know conditions were they

2223
01:52:54,707 --> 01:52:58,187
Speaker 12: might have looked challenging, you know from afar on TV,

2224
01:52:58,267 --> 01:53:02,187
Speaker 12: but they were pretty awesome sailing conditions and we you know,

2225
01:53:02,267 --> 01:53:05,867
Speaker 12: disappointed our sounds didn't you know, make use of them

2226
01:53:06,547 --> 01:53:07,787
Speaker 12: to the level we know we can.

2227
01:53:08,507 --> 01:53:10,827
Speaker 6: So a couple of areas of focus.

2228
01:53:10,467 --> 01:53:13,467
Speaker 12: Come out out from that that we want to tidy up,

2229
01:53:14,747 --> 01:53:17,387
Speaker 12: you know heading into the like say, the Grand Finals

2230
01:53:17,427 --> 01:53:20,907
Speaker 12: only three weeks away. But at the same time not

2231
01:53:20,907 --> 01:53:23,467
Speaker 12: not to open react and you know we back out

2232
01:53:23,507 --> 01:53:25,547
Speaker 12: that we have been doing a lot of things well

2233
01:53:27,307 --> 01:53:28,907
Speaker 12: and we just need tied up in a couple of

2234
01:53:28,987 --> 01:53:33,947
Speaker 12: areas to really you know, finish off what we're you know,

2235
01:53:34,187 --> 01:53:35,467
Speaker 12: what we wanted this season.

2236
01:53:35,907 --> 01:53:37,587
Speaker 2: Can you just expand a little bit on that for us.

2237
01:53:37,627 --> 01:53:39,987
Speaker 2: Let just just unpack what the areas of focus will

2238
01:53:39,987 --> 01:53:41,867
Speaker 2: be for you both this weekend and New York and

2239
01:53:41,867 --> 01:53:43,667
Speaker 2: then on towards San Francisco.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, sure, Well, one thing about New York, not one

2241
01:53:47,347 --> 01:53:51,467
Speaker 23: hundred percent sure on the conditions, yet really got a

2242
01:53:51,507 --> 01:53:53,987
Speaker 23: heat wave coming through New York at the moment, so

2243
01:53:54,987 --> 01:53:56,947
Speaker 23: you know, we might not experience the same conditions we

2244
01:53:56,987 --> 01:54:00,347
Speaker 23: did in Halifax, but I'm pretty sure we will get

2245
01:54:00,387 --> 01:54:01,707
Speaker 23: similar conditions.

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01:54:01,267 --> 01:54:03,907
Speaker 12: For the Grand Final in sand France. So it's certainly

2247
01:54:03,907 --> 01:54:05,627
Speaker 12: an area we want to look at.

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01:54:06,707 --> 01:54:07,347
Speaker 3: You know, there's.

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01:54:07,147 --> 01:54:10,227
Speaker 12: Obviously the never just one or two things was that

2250
01:54:10,347 --> 01:54:13,507
Speaker 12: obvious it would be you know, everyone would be doing it.

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01:54:13,547 --> 01:54:16,907
Speaker 12: But a couple of areas we work on our boat speed.

2252
01:54:17,107 --> 01:54:20,827
Speaker 12: We pride ourselves on being one of the fastest, if

2253
01:54:20,827 --> 01:54:23,227
Speaker 12: not the fastest boat on the racetrack, and we weren't

2254
01:54:24,627 --> 01:54:28,827
Speaker 12: and Halifax, so first and forth foremost that's in the

2255
01:54:28,827 --> 01:54:29,507
Speaker 12: area we want to.

2256
01:54:30,947 --> 01:54:31,747
Speaker 6: We want to get right.

2257
01:54:31,867 --> 01:54:36,867
Speaker 12: And then just in those conditions decision making, and you know,

2258
01:54:36,867 --> 01:54:39,667
Speaker 12: we weren't able to move our way through the fleet

2259
01:54:40,707 --> 01:54:43,747
Speaker 12: like we have been in over the last six months.

2260
01:54:44,387 --> 01:54:46,907
Speaker 6: So you know, even with some good starts.

2261
01:54:46,507 --> 01:54:50,227
Speaker 12: We we struggled to finish off and pick boats as

2262
01:54:50,227 --> 01:54:52,987
Speaker 12: we picked boats off as we went through the through

2263
01:54:52,987 --> 01:54:53,307
Speaker 12: the race.

2264
01:54:53,347 --> 01:54:55,107
Speaker 6: So that's another area we want to work on.

2265
01:54:55,547 --> 01:54:58,227
Speaker 2: So you've opened up an eleven point lead in the

2266
01:54:58,267 --> 01:55:02,187
Speaker 2: series with just New York and then San Francisco to go. How,

2267
01:55:02,387 --> 01:55:05,107
Speaker 2: if at all, will the fact you've got a substantial

2268
01:55:05,187 --> 01:55:07,307
Speaker 2: lead change the way that you sail this weekend?

2269
01:55:07,347 --> 01:55:12,947
Speaker 12: In particular, our pretty firm philosophy is to make sure

2270
01:55:12,947 --> 01:55:14,507
Speaker 12: we keep building momentum.

2271
01:55:15,107 --> 01:55:15,707
Speaker 6: You know, we've done a.

2272
01:55:17,427 --> 01:55:20,107
Speaker 12: Lot of hard work and some great racing to get

2273
01:55:20,467 --> 01:55:24,347
Speaker 12: to that position on the leaderboard, but we want to

2274
01:55:24,387 --> 01:55:28,387
Speaker 12: continue to build momentum and confidence within the group heading

2275
01:55:28,427 --> 01:55:32,027
Speaker 12: into that final race in San fran You know, I

2276
01:55:32,027 --> 01:55:34,067
Speaker 12: think that the team that is in the best, well,

2277
01:55:34,067 --> 01:55:36,827
Speaker 12: obviously you make it to the top three, but you know,

2278
01:55:36,867 --> 01:55:39,587
Speaker 12: the team that is has got the momentum heading into

2279
01:55:39,587 --> 01:55:43,467
Speaker 12: that final race will be hard to beat. So we

2280
01:55:43,507 --> 01:55:45,267
Speaker 12: want to make sure where that where that team.

2281
01:55:45,587 --> 01:55:49,547
Speaker 2: There were some fairly dramatic scenes in Halifax with Australia

2282
01:55:49,627 --> 01:55:53,547
Speaker 2: capsizing during that event. I'm not sure if it needed

2283
01:55:53,587 --> 01:55:56,827
Speaker 2: to be reinforced, but did that capsize reinforce to you

2284
01:55:57,347 --> 01:56:00,027
Speaker 2: how small the margins for ERA are when you're sailing

2285
01:56:00,027 --> 01:56:00,747
Speaker 2: in this competition.

2286
01:56:02,027 --> 01:56:05,307
Speaker 12: I think we're very well aware of it. You know,

2287
01:56:05,347 --> 01:56:10,387
Speaker 12: obviously we've had our fair share of pickups this year,

2288
01:56:11,107 --> 01:56:15,667
Speaker 12: or pretty major ones, and you know that, yeah, the

2289
01:56:15,667 --> 01:56:20,467
Speaker 12: Australia Capsize, Reinforces, the US Capsize and Bermuda. You know,

2290
01:56:20,747 --> 01:56:26,307
Speaker 12: these boats are at the very top of you know,

2291
01:56:26,347 --> 01:56:29,587
Speaker 12: the technology curve and sailing and you know that when

2292
01:56:29,587 --> 01:56:32,067
Speaker 12: they're going in the straight line and them moving well,

2293
01:56:32,227 --> 01:56:37,067
Speaker 12: everything's balanced. You know, it looks it looks effortless or easy.

2294
01:56:37,147 --> 01:56:40,147
Speaker 12: But you know, I think things like what have happened

2295
01:56:40,147 --> 01:56:42,387
Speaker 12: in the last couple of events, you know, show how

2296
01:56:42,867 --> 01:56:45,267
Speaker 12: how quickly things can change when it you know, when

2297
01:56:45,307 --> 01:56:47,747
Speaker 12: you get it wrong or the forces changed quickly on

2298
01:56:47,787 --> 01:56:50,827
Speaker 12: the boat. So no, we're pretty aware of that. But

2299
01:56:51,467 --> 01:56:54,907
Speaker 12: you know, it doesn't mean you're back off or but

2300
01:56:55,187 --> 01:56:57,387
Speaker 12: it's good to acknowledge it. But then still just you know,

2301
01:56:57,547 --> 01:56:59,987
Speaker 12: like I said before, as well, keep the hammer down

2302
01:57:00,027 --> 01:57:02,147
Speaker 12: and keep trying to work out how to make the

2303
01:57:02,147 --> 01:57:04,387
Speaker 12: boat go faster and get around the racetrack quicker than

2304
01:57:04,507 --> 01:57:05,187
Speaker 12: other boats.

2305
01:57:05,547 --> 01:57:08,747
Speaker 2: Across the series, seven teams by my account, have been

2306
01:57:08,867 --> 01:57:12,427
Speaker 2: docked points at various stages throughout the series for various things.

2307
01:57:12,907 --> 01:57:16,627
Speaker 2: How much of a potential threat is that, you know,

2308
01:57:16,667 --> 01:57:19,067
Speaker 2: the threat of losing points as you go about the

2309
01:57:19,107 --> 01:57:20,747
Speaker 2: business of securing the.

2310
01:57:20,707 --> 01:57:24,467
Speaker 8: Series, The penalty points systems very real.

2311
01:57:25,627 --> 01:57:28,347
Speaker 6: That's for sure. It's you know, it's.

2312
01:57:28,147 --> 01:57:33,467
Speaker 12: There to try and stop boats coming together. You know

2313
01:57:33,507 --> 01:57:37,267
Speaker 12: that obviously it is expensive for the teams or for

2314
01:57:37,307 --> 01:57:41,027
Speaker 12: the league, but it's also you know, causes real logistical

2315
01:57:41,347 --> 01:57:45,907
Speaker 12: nightmares of when we're trying to race, you know, on

2316
01:57:45,907 --> 01:57:47,827
Speaker 12: on weekends, you know, a couple of only a couple

2317
01:57:47,867 --> 01:57:51,467
Speaker 12: of weekends apart. So that's been in for two seasons now.

2318
01:57:52,827 --> 01:57:56,387
Speaker 12: You know, we've managed to stay clear this season of them,

2319
01:57:56,507 --> 01:57:59,787
Speaker 12: but we've had we've had our share of them last season, which,

2320
01:58:00,907 --> 01:58:04,307
Speaker 12: like you quite rightly pointed out that it can swing

2321
01:58:04,427 --> 01:58:08,467
Speaker 12: things very fast. So yeah, you definitely have to have

2322
01:58:08,547 --> 01:58:10,867
Speaker 12: respect for them. You have to you know, know the

2323
01:58:10,907 --> 01:58:15,907
Speaker 12: consequences which are very harsh. But at the same time,

2324
01:58:15,947 --> 01:58:18,987
Speaker 12: you don't want to you don't want to go around

2325
01:58:19,427 --> 01:58:23,347
Speaker 12: backed off because obviously at that point, you know, you

2326
01:58:23,387 --> 01:58:26,307
Speaker 12: can come and stuck, you know, just as easily I feel.

2327
01:58:26,587 --> 01:58:28,347
Speaker 2: And I know you said before that you're not entirely

2328
01:58:28,427 --> 01:58:30,987
Speaker 2: sure of the conditions you'll face this weekend, But in

2329
01:58:31,027 --> 01:58:34,627
Speaker 2: general terms, do you expect the wind to be to

2330
01:58:34,667 --> 01:58:37,707
Speaker 2: be strong enough yet about to use the high speed configuration?

2331
01:58:37,787 --> 01:58:39,907
Speaker 2: For the most part, I'm.

2332
01:58:39,787 --> 01:58:41,587
Speaker 6: Still a little unsure at this stage.

2333
01:58:42,907 --> 01:58:45,827
Speaker 12: A bit of a heat wave coming through New York

2334
01:58:45,867 --> 01:58:50,947
Speaker 12: at the moment. So with that is it just puts

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Speaker 12: a bit of uncertainty into the wind. That could you know,

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Speaker 12: the chance of thunderstorms in the area Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

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01:58:58,347 --> 01:59:02,987
Speaker 12: So that always just adds a level of uncertainty to

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01:59:03,027 --> 01:59:07,067
Speaker 12: the forecast. But yeah, certainly hoping that we you know,

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01:59:07,307 --> 01:59:10,427
Speaker 12: are up and boiling boats are ripping around, you know,

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01:59:10,467 --> 01:59:14,827
Speaker 12: whether we're on the the high speed configuration or the

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01:59:15,627 --> 01:59:19,947
Speaker 12: you know, the lighter configuration. You know, obviously both options

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01:59:19,947 --> 01:59:21,787
Speaker 12: get get you up and foiling. Just one has a

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01:59:21,827 --> 01:59:24,707
Speaker 12: slightly higher top end speed or more geared towards the

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01:59:24,747 --> 01:59:30,067
Speaker 12: windy missions, but so not not too not too fast,

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01:59:30,747 --> 01:59:33,707
Speaker 12: you know, slightly looking further ahead, you'd have to think,

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01:59:34,067 --> 01:59:37,267
Speaker 12: you know, San Francisco's will likely be on the high

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01:59:37,307 --> 01:59:41,947
Speaker 12: speed configuration, which has been the last couple of years

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01:59:41,947 --> 01:59:42,667
Speaker 12: that we've braced there.

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01:59:43,107 --> 01:59:46,587
Speaker 2: And the racecourse itself in New York it's off Governor's Island,

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01:59:46,587 --> 01:59:49,027
Speaker 2: doesn't it. But what about the you know, the famous

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01:59:49,107 --> 01:59:52,547
Speaker 2: landmarks of New York, you know, lot of Manhattan and

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01:59:52,587 --> 01:59:54,627
Speaker 2: of course the Statue of Liberty. Do you get do

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01:59:54,667 --> 01:59:56,547
Speaker 2: you get close to some of those places.

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01:59:57,547 --> 02:00:02,787
Speaker 12: Yeah, a pretty phenomenal racetrack here in New York. To

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02:00:02,827 --> 02:00:06,587
Speaker 12: have the opportunity to sell these boats, you know, our

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Speaker 12: first time selling Amacuda here in New York.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, to have the.

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Speaker 12: Opportunity to sell fifty is right, you know, in such

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02:00:15,027 --> 02:00:19,787
Speaker 12: an iconic city. You know, the massive skyscrapers. Statue of

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Speaker 12: Liberty actually will be just on the edge of the racetrack,

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Speaker 12: probably within half a mile. And then yeah, so Statue Liberty.

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Speaker 8: And one Governor's Island on the other and then.

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Speaker 12: Lower mayheading at the top of the course or the

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Speaker 12: bottom of the course. That yeah, pretty pretty awesome And

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02:00:37,307 --> 02:00:39,867
Speaker 12: just can't can't wait to get out and ripping around

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02:00:40,667 --> 02:00:40,987
Speaker 12: out there.

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Speaker 16: And I'm Acuda.

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Speaker 2: Amazing, amazing news in the last couple of days, Blair,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you've picked up on sal GP won't be

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Speaker 2: returning to christ Church next year. There is still a

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Speaker 2: lot of intent for a New Zealand League of sol

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02:00:52,587 --> 02:00:56,507
Speaker 2: GP in twenty twenty five, presumably in Auckland. How important

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02:00:56,587 --> 02:00:58,427
Speaker 2: is it to the team that you get the chance

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02:00:58,467 --> 02:01:02,187
Speaker 2: to sail on event in cel GP on home waters.

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Speaker 12: It would be huge. Is nothing better for us and

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02:01:06,827 --> 02:01:10,507
Speaker 12: racing in front of our home fans. You know, we're

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02:01:11,107 --> 02:01:15,467
Speaker 12: a team that predominantly races overseas all around the world,

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02:01:15,627 --> 02:01:18,947
Speaker 12: you know, and that's going to continue next year fourteen

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02:01:18,987 --> 02:01:22,747
Speaker 12: odd events I think somewhere around there. But to have

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02:01:22,827 --> 02:01:26,667
Speaker 12: their opportunity to race in front of our home fans, yeah,

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02:01:26,827 --> 02:01:30,867
Speaker 12: there's nothing better. So I know the league's working incredibly

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02:01:30,907 --> 02:01:34,427
Speaker 12: hard right now to try and get that final calendar

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Speaker 12: for season five.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I guess WA's the space.

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Speaker 12: But yeah, nothing better for us than racing at home.

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Speaker 2: Of course, christ Church, you know, had its issues this year,

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02:01:44,787 --> 02:01:46,507
Speaker 2: but when you did get out racing on the Sunday,

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02:01:46,507 --> 02:01:48,267
Speaker 2: it was a very happy regatta for you with the

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02:01:49,067 --> 02:01:52,027
Speaker 2: win for the Black Foils. Are you a bit disappointed

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02:01:52,067 --> 02:01:53,987
Speaker 2: you won't be going back to Littleton?

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02:01:55,147 --> 02:01:59,027
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean Littleton was unbelievable right this year and

2392
02:02:00,267 --> 02:02:05,827
Speaker 12: last year. To those conditions for sailing there you know

2393
02:02:05,867 --> 02:02:07,667
Speaker 12: have been some the best in sale gup and we

2394
02:02:07,667 --> 02:02:12,987
Speaker 12: were pretty clear on that, you know, after after racing there.

2395
02:02:13,507 --> 02:02:18,147
Speaker 12: Obviously racing there also comes with its unique challenges, you know.

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02:02:18,187 --> 02:02:20,147
Speaker 12: But just you know, I want to say thanks to

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02:02:20,867 --> 02:02:23,107
Speaker 12: everyone in christ Church that you know, the community there

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02:02:23,147 --> 02:02:26,907
Speaker 12: was amazing to the team to the to the whole league,

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02:02:26,907 --> 02:02:29,747
Speaker 12: and you know, so to all the fans that travel

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02:02:29,787 --> 02:02:33,147
Speaker 12: from Afar and.

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02:02:31,787 --> 02:02:32,987
Speaker 16: Our team partners as well.

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02:02:33,027 --> 02:02:35,587
Speaker 12: So yeah, but a bit of a shame.

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02:02:35,627 --> 02:02:38,987
Speaker 18: But I know, you know, you know the league is

2404
02:02:39,067 --> 02:02:39,747
Speaker 18: now working.

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02:02:39,547 --> 02:02:42,867
Speaker 12: Hard to try and finalize that season five calendar.

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02:02:42,947 --> 02:02:44,827
Speaker 2: All right, well, look forward to seeing news of that

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02:02:45,027 --> 02:02:47,107
Speaker 2: for the meantime New York for you guys, and then

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Speaker 2: on towards San Francisco. All the best this weekend. Blair,

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02:02:50,307 --> 02:02:51,867
Speaker 2: thanks for taking the time for a chat and good luck.

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02:02:52,347 --> 02:02:53,507
Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you very much, No.

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02:02:53,547 --> 02:02:55,907
Speaker 2: Thank you, Blair. Blair. Chuck there from the Black Foils

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02:02:56,507 --> 02:03:00,387
Speaker 2: at a sou gp, New York. About six tomorrow morning

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02:03:00,387 --> 02:03:01,987
Speaker 2: is when they get under way in New Zealand time

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02:03:02,227 --> 02:03:03,947
Speaker 2: seven and a half away from three News Talk.

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02:03:04,947 --> 02:03:06,187
Speaker 3: When it's downs on the line.

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02:03:06,507 --> 02:03:10,627
Speaker 1: You made a call one hundred eighty Weekend Sports with

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Speaker 1: Jason Pine, News Talk zemb.

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Speaker 3: Four to three.

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Speaker 2: That's about a show for today, quickly EDGs. Tomorrow we'll

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Speaker 2: wrap the Super Rugby Final, of course, Jeff Wilson and

2421
02:03:18,627 --> 02:03:21,067
Speaker 2: Mike Brewer try to predict the first all Black squad

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02:03:21,067 --> 02:03:23,507
Speaker 2: of the year. Just after midday and Sir Mark Todd

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02:03:23,547 --> 02:03:26,187
Speaker 2: on the Road to Paris just after the two o'clock news.

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02:03:26,427 --> 02:03:29,267
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening in Tim beverage after three. Huge thanks

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02:03:29,267 --> 02:03:31,867
Speaker 2: to Andy McDonald for producing the show. Is always what's

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02:03:31,867 --> 02:03:32,867
Speaker 2: our exit song today?

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Speaker 16: Mate?

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02:03:33,227 --> 02:03:36,667
Speaker 4: Well, piney because it's the Battle of the Bombays, So

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Speaker 4: you'll forgive me for my laziness, but I've gone for

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02:03:38,867 --> 02:03:41,867
Speaker 4: a song from the band South Side of Bombay. Not

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02:03:41,947 --> 02:03:43,947
Speaker 4: me showing my allegiance or anything, just that it has

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02:03:43,987 --> 02:03:46,707
Speaker 4: the word Bombay in there. What's the time, mister Wolf?

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Speaker 4: Great tune, Great June and enjoy the rest of your afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Everyone. See tomorrow.

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