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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 2: Basketball doubleheader at Globox Arena, Claudland's Hamilton today to conclude

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Speaker 2: the Trans Tasman Throwdown. The Australian Boomers and the Tall

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Speaker 2: Blacks have just tipped off at ten past four as

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Speaker 2: the Australian Opals and the Tall Ferns now. Both Australian

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Speaker 2: teams were victorious in the opening two matches and Adelaide

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday night the Opals beat our Tall Ferns eighty

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Speaker 2: eight to seventy and the Boomers beat the Tall Blacks

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Speaker 2: eighty points to sixty eight. And then on Friday night

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Speaker 2: in the Sunshine Coast it was the women's ninety two

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Speaker 2: to sixty seven to Australia and in the men ninety

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Speaker 2: eight sorry ninety two sixty seven and the men ninety

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Speaker 2: eight to fifty seven in the women. So some pride

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Speaker 2: to play for this afternoon in the third and final

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Speaker 2: games of this Trans Tasman series, the Trans Tasman throw

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Speaker 2: Down as they're calling it. I spoke yesterday with Tall

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Speaker 2: Black's coach jud Flavel just after he got off the

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Speaker 2: plane on the flight home and asked him what had

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Speaker 2: taken up most of his thinking time on the flight

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Speaker 2: back to New Zealand ahead of Game three this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was an early start for us this morning,

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Speaker 3: travel day and all, but had had some time to

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Speaker 3: look across, get across the film, and I guess, you know,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot to light there in terms of what

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Speaker 3: we wanted to achieve. We wanted to tidy up some

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Speaker 3: of the things on the offensive end, and you know,

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Speaker 3: we we we were able to do that, and we

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Speaker 3: just I guess trying to put it together consistently is

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Speaker 3: the is the mission the objective? And at times when

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Speaker 3: we did do that and converted, you know, we we

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Speaker 3: were good. We haven't shot the ball well, we've show it,

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Speaker 3: I guess across both games, you know, twenty three percent

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Speaker 3: from a three point line.

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Speaker 4: And so it's hard to win ball games, you know.

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Speaker 3: And when I guess you are unable to convert, I

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Speaker 3: guess what you're trying to do. But I thought, defensively,

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Speaker 3: we've been very solid across the board.

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Speaker 4: Little things that we can.

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Speaker 3: You know, as as you get into these these games

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Speaker 3: and you know your your opponents throws them different things

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Speaker 4: But for the most part in the core of our defense,

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Speaker 4: I've been really happy with it.

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Speaker 2: So when you're looking for offensive consistency Jardin, and those

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Speaker 2: three pointers aren't dropping the way you are hoping they will,

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Speaker 2: are you encouraging your guys to keep on shooting from

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Speaker 2: from free point land or are you looking for other

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Speaker 2: options to that point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, traditionally tall blacks, we we have to be

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Speaker 3: out of space the floor, and so the shots that

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Speaker 3: we you know, some of the shots that we get

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Speaker 3: in and they're not falling, We're happy with that. That's

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Speaker 3: that's you're playing the numbers game as far as as

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Speaker 3: far as that's concerned, and numbers. Uh, yeah, Like shooters

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Speaker 3: have got to shoot, and if we turn down those shots,

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Speaker 3: then you know, we live. I guess we'll give ourselves

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Speaker 3: less time on the on the shop clock and to

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Speaker 3: try to generate more by another advantage, which is really

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Speaker 3: just going to come back to getting the same shot.

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Speaker 4: So I guess we don't have a lot of.

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Speaker 3: Margin for error, I guess at that end, And so

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Speaker 3: we have to be very precise and be on top

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Speaker 3: of things as far as the execution is concerned. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: given a short time frame, and the way that we

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Speaker 3: came into this window. You know, if we had a

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Speaker 3: longer prep time then maybe maybe some things we would

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Speaker 3: have done differently. But yeah, it's a good it's a

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Speaker 3: good process for us to go through in what leads

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Speaker 3: into the Asia Cup and in a couple of months time.

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Speaker 2: So you alluded to your defensive performance before Judd across

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Speaker 2: the two matches, how do you evaluate your your your

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Speaker 2: defensive performance.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as I say, just I think pretty solid across

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Speaker 3: That the two areas that it really stood out last

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Speaker 3: night obviously was points that we gave up in transition

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Speaker 3: if you're executing well and you're getting good shots, you

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Speaker 3: But we you know, we had a lot of turnovers.

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Speaker 3: We had I think it was sixteen or eighteen turnovers

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Speaker 3: that led to a lot of points for them, and

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Speaker 3: we also gave up I guess the offensive rebound count.

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Speaker 4: We've lost that both games, and.

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Speaker 3: I guess that's those are the sides that the sides

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Speaker 4: Those areas and that gives you a fighting chants.

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Speaker 3: And you know Xavier Cooks who had six offensive rebounds

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Speaker 3: last last night, as you know, someone like that has

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Speaker 3: just the way our structures are on the defensive end.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, those are the two areas for us that

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Speaker 3: we will be looking to improve. And but you know, overall,

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Speaker 3: for the defense and for the short time span and

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Speaker 3: there's been some good science.

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Speaker 2: You're welcomed Fin Delaney back into your camp after his

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Speaker 2: club season in Japan was all done. Good to have

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Speaker 2: him back in the Black Singler. How much of a

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Speaker 2: boost does Findalaney give you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just a leader, another veteran that has a wealth

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Speaker 3: been great. Obviously a guy that can play at a

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I know the toll box means a lot.

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Speaker 3: For him and him coming back and such a short

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Speaker 3: to the twllbacks as well.

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Speaker 4: So the great influence to have. We've got a young group.

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Speaker 3: We got like three or fourteen agers here, some early

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Speaker 3: model and a leader like is yeah with its weight

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Speaker 2: So you mentioned I mean there's a couple of players

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Speaker 2: that a little bit for us, Judd, how close is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look, it's good.

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Speaker 3: As I said, a lot of youngsters that are going

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Speaker 3: And I guess tama Isaac an eighteen year old who

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Speaker 4: Off to college soon.

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Speaker 3: And say with Julius Ala who is apparently over in Georgetown,

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Speaker 3: you know, both to eighteen year old's Jackson boy who

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Speaker 4: So yeah, we also had Oscar.

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Speaker 3: Goodman as well another eighteen year old that was at

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Speaker 3: the Adelaide game. These guys are at the future of

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Speaker 3: a large number of guys that are currently away and unavailable.

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Speaker 3: You know, Ty Webster's are in Europe and along with

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Speaker 4: And you know we had named some guys.

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Speaker 3: You have Flynn Cameron who was part of this initial

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Speaker 3: that they come around, but you know, bad timing for

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Speaker 3: them and for us, But look what it has given

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Speaker 2: So back home now and we don't get the chance

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Speaker 2: to watch the tall Blacks player Australia on home courts

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Speaker 2: very often. How motivated are you to pull up a

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Speaker 2: your home fans in game three?

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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, you know.

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Speaker 3: We we relished the opportunity to play against our I

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Speaker 3: guess our rivals and two in this series has really

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Speaker 3: a great preparation for what we're great opportunities for us

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Speaker 3: to really stretch ourselves and this, yeah, this game in

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Speaker 3: Hamilton tomorrow is going to be yea nothing short of

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Speaker 3: what we've seen so far. Two countries playing hard and

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Speaker 3: playing the game the right way, and I think it's going.

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Speaker 4: To be a great spectacle.

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Speaker 3: Of course, you know, we are going to compete as

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Speaker 2: And speaking of young up and coming players, your daughter

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Speaker 2: Bailey is on the Tall Ferns side that's been playing

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Speaker 2: the opals, the Australian women's side at the same time

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Speaker 2: you've been facing the Boomers. So have you been able

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Speaker 2: to take a break from being tall Black's coach to

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Speaker 2: be a proud dad.

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Speaker 3: Well, I actually after the game yesterday did stick around

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Speaker 3: it's been fun. Look, you know, just been on tour

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Speaker 3: with this. I think with the Tall Fans group and

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Speaker 3: the Tall back's been together, it's you. It's great for

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Speaker 4: That connection there.

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Speaker 3: And obviously having Bailey there, you know, sometimes I do

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Speaker 3: catch myself going on that's right. Yeah, Barey's playing and

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Speaker 3: Bailey's here, so I see her, you know, having a.

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Speaker 4: Good time and enjoying the experience. But yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 4: what it's all about at the end of the day.

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Speaker 3: It's it's basketball, it's it's sport, and you it's fun and.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're lucky to do this.

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Speaker 2: That is the voice of Judd Flavel, tall Black's coach,

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Speaker 2: who I spoke to once they jumped off the plane

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Speaker 2: yesterday ahead of Game three Today.

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