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Speaker 1: This Gentleman Being podcast. Hey that's us, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Hello Fresh, The Experts and Tastes that Kiwis love.

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Speaker 2: Nicole joins us again, how you done.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing well. How are you guys?

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Speaker 2: We're done good.

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Speaker 1: Always like to see who you've been hanging out with

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Speaker 1: over the last week. Charlie Pooth and studio. I saw

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Speaker 1: a good looking guy's got Will Ferrell. How you saw

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Speaker 1: with you about how he could just call him up?

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Speaker 1: He's got his number?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like it what a flex?

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Speaker 4: And he like threw that out, He's like, actually he's

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Speaker 4: a he's a good friend of mine. I was like,

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Speaker 4: don't just like toss that piece of information away.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's a good friend of mine.

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Speaker 4: But he did get a lot of people, like a

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Speaker 4: lot of really big people to make cameos in this

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Speaker 4: new show that he's got. And also we got a

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Speaker 4: little insight into Taylor Swift calling him out in Torture

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Speaker 4: Poe's department when she says, we, you know, we declared

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Speaker 4: that Charlieooth should be a bigger artists. He said she

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Speaker 4: never called him ahead of time. They haven't spoken since,

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Speaker 4: Like she hasn't called to me, like thank you that's

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Speaker 4: so cool. She never called us for permission. They've just

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Speaker 4: never talked. And I'm like, so you can call Will Ferrell.

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Speaker 4: But like Taylor shouts you out in a song and

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Speaker 4: nothing crickets.

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Speaker 5: It's weird that she wouldn't have reached out either before

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Speaker 5: or after, to be like, hey, I really love you.

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Speaker 6: Hope you don't mind that I meet you, knew my song?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 6: Nothing.

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Speaker 4: I feel like that's like very her style, and and

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Speaker 4: if she didn't, I think it's weird that like he didn't.

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Speaker 3: Be like, hey, let me get on the phone. There

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Speaker 3: someone get on the phone with her and so I

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Speaker 3: can say thank you.

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Speaker 4: That was really cool. I don't know, but he kind

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Speaker 4: of likes it. It's just out in the universe and

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Speaker 4: that's what it is.

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Speaker 5: So whatever, given that you're in New York and you

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Speaker 5: see these celebrities all the time, do you have a Flix?

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Speaker 5: Is there some celebrity that you can just call that

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Speaker 5: you have on your phone? No?

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Speaker 3: You know. I had Megan Trainer for a second, and

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Speaker 3: then that's right. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And then like a year after, like I think she

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Speaker 4: was at an award show and I was like we

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Speaker 4: were there, and I was like, I gotta call her

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Speaker 4: and say congratulations, and it seemed that that, uh, that

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Speaker 4: the line was disconnected.

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Speaker 3: I mean that doesn't mean it doesn't mean it was me, but.

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Speaker 1: Like I was like, so next time you talk to

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Speaker 1: her on your radio show, you'd be like, oh, number,

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Speaker 1: you didn't give me your new number, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, so yeah, hook it up, put it in.

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Speaker 2: That's very cool.

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Speaker 1: Now, obviously, the whole world, you know, I seem to

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Speaker 1: be talking sometimes publicly, sometimes privately about the pay Diddy,

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Speaker 1: Well what's going on with puff Daddy pay Diddy as well?

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Speaker 1: And it just seems to get messier and Missia these

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Speaker 1: lawyers talking about other celebrities potentially getting involved, but they

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Speaker 1: may not be mentioned.

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I think that the powers that be

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Speaker 4: are going to do everything in their freaking power not

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Speaker 4: to let some of those names be released.

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Speaker 3: But you never know.

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Speaker 4: If it goes to court, which it seems like it's

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Speaker 3: Because it has to like legally.

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Speaker 4: But yes, I've been sitting with my friends, I've been

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Speaker 4: to figure out who this person is. We've talked about

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Speaker 4: Ashton Kutcher. We've talked about Leonardo DiCaprio. We've talked about

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Speaker 4: just like Usher or Justin Bieber because we know that

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Speaker 4: he was they were both there when they were very

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Speaker 3: But I mean, I think that.

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Speaker 4: There's names that we never even dream of that won't

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Speaker 5: Because I did see the lawyer was giving them the

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Speaker 5: opportunity to basically settle. So we know that these celebrities

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Speaker 5: have a huge amount of money. They can settle, they

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Speaker 5: can put forward. This settlement has to be agreed upon.

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Speaker 5: But if someone's coming to you with millions of dollars,

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Speaker 4: I Mean, the thing is like Cassie sort of like

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Speaker 4: because they settled and then that opened up like sort

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Speaker 4: in the like the last week, they've got twelve thousand

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Speaker 4: calls regarding people saying that they had been a victim

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Speaker 4: of Diddy. So this guy's definitely not a good a

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Speaker 4: good guy. I don't think like where there's smoke, there's fire.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I mean lessen innocential, proven guilty. But I just feel

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Speaker 4: like there's not that many people saying the same exact

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Speaker 3: That's just my opinion.

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Speaker 1: But it's just just because you've gone to a party

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Speaker 1: at his house or something doesn't necessarily mean you were

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Speaker 1: involved in anything. I'm sure there was there was some

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Speaker 1: parties that people went to that didn't quite end in

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Speaker 1: sort of freak offs and things.

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Speaker 5: Right, they were there if you believe the room is

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Speaker 5: the freak off part maybe started at a certain point

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Speaker 4: Right, I think like once it's like after hours or something,

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Speaker 4: so there could have been people there enjoying, Like you

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Speaker 4: guys used to have these like bougie white parties, right,

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Speaker 4: that's like, did he started that whole thing? People were there,

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Speaker 4: they were smoothing, they were drinking, they're having fun.

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Speaker 3: Then they go and then the real freaks stay for

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Speaker 3: the freak off I.

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Speaker 6: Mean just talking about it.

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Speaker 3: Whole thing so wild.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And as like like pop radio DJ's, it's very

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Speaker 4: hard to find other celebrity news right now, that's not

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Speaker 4: it's so annoying.

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Speaker 1: And what about on your you know station in America

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Speaker 1: and other stations, like is his music being taken off

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Speaker 1: or is that innocence until proven guilty? And we'll see

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Speaker 4: I think we're seeing certain people. I think, like the

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Speaker 4: key to he was given, like the key to Miami

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Speaker 4: they got rid of, like they they rescinded that since

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Speaker 4: these allegations, we don't play any Diddy because it's all

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Speaker 4: like current music.

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Speaker 3: But I actually don't know. I need to look into.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I can find out and let you guys next know,

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Speaker 4: next week, because I wouldn't be shocked if certain stations

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Speaker 4: you know, like just not a good look.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And then coming out of the the did he

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Speaker 5: saw all that some yeah some prison at the moment,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I honestly I feel terrible for his children, like,

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Speaker 4: you know, like because then like I mean, even if

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Speaker 3: You know, like that's gonna be a hard pilled as swallow.

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Speaker 1: We got Nicole joining us from New York. We love

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Speaker 1: catching up with Nicole every week. Now we're messaging over

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Speaker 1: social media. You were saying in response, because I've been

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Speaker 1: doing the silly videos, as you know, embarrassing my kids

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Speaker 1: the chance slang enough and you were like, this is great,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, well you should do it, and you

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Speaker 1: said your daughter would what.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, what did I right? I don't even remember.

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Speaker 2: I think you said, like, my daughter, would you see it?

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Speaker 2: Your daughter would murder me?

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Speaker 3: Sorry, she would, you know why?

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Speaker 4: Because I showed her and I was saying, this is

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Speaker 4: like one of our friends from New Zealand, and she

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Speaker 4: like when I showed her and I zoomed in on

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Speaker 3: She felt embarrassed for them. So you really killed it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've reached that sweet spot in

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, there's nothing better. We were leaving to

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Speaker 3: And with all the wind was open, I was going, Parker,

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Speaker 3: it's me your mom.

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Speaker 3: She was like mortified, And I love every second of it.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So we want to talk about Joker, the new

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Speaker 5: movie follow d uh Joaquin Phoenix, Lady Gaga.

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Speaker 6: I saw it and I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 5: I'm not a huge like Batman fans. I wasn't expecting

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Speaker 2: People walking out in movie theater.

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Speaker 3: It is flopping.

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Speaker 4: And the thing is, Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga are

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Speaker 4: both brilliant, like just entertainers. They're brilliant like artists right

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Speaker 4: might be that's a hard thing I even thought with

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Speaker 4: Mean Girls when they went that route, like the new

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Speaker 4: if that would work. I don't that everybody loves that,

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Speaker 4: so I'm wondering if that's the issue.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: And they were brilliant.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't think anyone's disputing the fact that they

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Speaker 5: were incredible in this.

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Speaker 6: The acting was amazing, but it kind of cruised along.

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Speaker 6: It cruised along.

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Speaker 5: It definitely was not a blockbuster, and there's not a

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Speaker 5: lot of like Joker action, shall we say, Yeah, Like

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Speaker 5: I want.

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Speaker 4: To see and I haven't seen yet, but I plan

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Speaker 4: on it. But I want to see them both being

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Speaker 4: like they're weird selves and like taking on these characters.

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Speaker 3: I don't need them singing to each other. It's just

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Speaker 3: like that's my that's for me.

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Speaker 5: And when you sell Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn, I

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Speaker 5: feel like you expect to see that, right, which we.

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Speaker 6: Kind of didn't to be honest, She's just she so

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Speaker 6: toe And at the end.

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Speaker 4: You didn't see the Craig Cray you need money, didn't

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Speaker 4: want it and needed more Craig Cray.

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Speaker 6: My got Jim it's a very good way to put it.

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Speaker 6: Now we have I don't know how in.

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Speaker 5: Touch you are with the Royals, but given that Harry

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Speaker 5: and Meghan live in America, we've seen a lot of

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Speaker 5: But yeah, that they've been traveling a lot secretly, Harry's

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Speaker 4: Oh, Harry is the sweetest most like you want to

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Speaker 3: You would never you would never be late for live.

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