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Speaker 2: Shall it good afternoon, Welcome into Weekend Sport, the Sunday

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Speaker 2: edition on News Talks EDB March sixteen. I'm Jason Pine,

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Speaker 2: through the Glass Show producer Andy McDonald. We're here talking

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Speaker 2: sport with you until three. Formula one well and truly

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Speaker 2: our focus. To kick the show off today, Race day

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Speaker 2: is here at Albert Park in Melbourne. The Australian Grand

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Speaker 2: Prix set to go at five this afternoon. New Zealand

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Speaker 2: time keywee Liam Lawson's had a challenging couple of days

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Speaker 2: on the twenty car grid. Rain is also forecast today

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Speaker 2: shortly with leading Formula one journalist and broadcast to Chris Medland.

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Speaker 2: I'm really keen to hear from you as well. Formula

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Speaker 2: one fans, what are your realistic expectations for Liam Lawson

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Speaker 2: in this race and for this season. We spoke about

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Speaker 2: talk Formula one between now and one after one o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Another compelling round of Super Rugby Pacific is in the books,

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Speaker 2: to talk Super Rugby with you after one o'clock. Other

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Speaker 2: Auckland FC back in action this afternoon. They take on

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Speaker 2: talking sporting matters around one forty five. A lot of

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Speaker 2: Liam Lawson will make his full time Red Ball Formula

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Speaker 2: underway at five This afternoon, New Zealand time. Let's get

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Speaker 2: you to Melbourne for a preview. Bring in highly respected

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Speaker 2: and experienced freelance Formula one journalist and broadcaster Chris Medland.

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Speaker 2: You can read him at racer dot com and also

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Speaker 2: in Motorsport Magazine and hear him on Sirius xf XM

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Speaker 2: across New Zealand to preview the Australian Grand Prix. Let's

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Speaker 2: start with Liam Lawson. Can you summarize the last two

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Speaker 2: What did you make of his last couple of days?

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Speaker 5: I'm glad you brought that up because I hadn't mentioned

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Speaker 5: George didn't like that either, So this war of words

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Speaker 5: But everything's been so close. We've been seeing a difference

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Speaker 2: All right. Chris the finish You've mentioned the rain a

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Speaker 2: very quick question, Liam Lawson, what does success look like

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your outstanding analysis, Chris. Thanks so much for joining

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Speaker 6: Not a problem, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Chris Chriss Midland Deer Live from Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: Where's you heard. It's hammering down with rain, which is

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Speaker 2: You have to think from what Chris just told us,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say. I mean we also people will remember

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Speaker 2: sale GP. Is this what you do? You just do?

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Speaker 2: Okay, now we've just had our correspondent on from Melbourne.

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Speaker 8: but he looks pretty focused. Same with Yeah, I saw

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Speaker 8: Christian Hounor as well, So yeah, they all look pretty

434
00:19:36,427 --> 00:19:38,947
Speaker 8: pretty locked in. But yeah, pretty serious time down there.

435
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Speaker 2: So what about the wider experience of being there, Angus?

436
00:19:41,987 --> 00:19:44,387
Speaker 2: What was it? You know? Where can you go? What

437
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Speaker 2: can you see? What is worth doing when you're there?

438
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Speaker 8: Well, yeah, I'm not gonna Lie've got I've got pretty

439
00:19:49,507 --> 00:19:51,947
Speaker 8: good passes this year. Yeah, we got pretty good arm

440
00:19:51,947 --> 00:19:53,307
Speaker 8: We did get a bit of a contact and so

441
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Speaker 8: we did get some pretty good passes. We've been in

442
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Speaker 8: the paddock, We've had access to pretty much most of

443
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Speaker 8: the drivers and the team principles. We've also had a

444
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Speaker 8: bit of at the hospitality onside, which has been really nice.

445
00:20:03,227 --> 00:20:05,667
Speaker 8: But I except for probably ninety to ninety five percent

446
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Speaker 8: of people that's not the same experience. It's usually kind

447
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Speaker 8: of like your ga. Yeah, you know, on the craft

448
00:20:10,667 --> 00:20:13,147
Speaker 8: banks and whatnot. I have done grandstands previously. You know,

449
00:20:13,307 --> 00:20:15,067
Speaker 8: in the grand stand that's usually probably the best value

450
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Speaker 8: for money and you get a really good view, guaranteed

451
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Speaker 8: seat and whatnot. So that's yeah, that's probably that's if

452
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Speaker 8: I do it again, and I probably will, that's probably

453
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Speaker 8: what I'll do an exist.

454
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Speaker 2: And in terms of the numbers, have you got any

455
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Speaker 2: engauge on how many people will turn up today to watch?

456
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Speaker 9: Yep?

457
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Speaker 8: Yeah, No, they asually promote it quite a bit, so

458
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Speaker 8: they're expecting across the whole week. I'll give you a

459
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Speaker 8: dogs to the number. They're expecting over five hundred thousand,

460
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Speaker 8: but you've got a factor and that that's across four days.

461
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Speaker 8: So on the first day or the first property of

462
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Speaker 8: kind of practice, which was Friday, they had a crowd

463
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Speaker 8: of one hundred and twenty five thousand. Yesterday I thought

464
00:20:44,947 --> 00:20:46,707
Speaker 8: it was just over one hundred and fifty seven thousand,

465
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Speaker 8: and I'm not sure what they're expecting today. So they

466
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Speaker 8: usually they kind of hype the crowd up of it

467
00:20:50,587 --> 00:20:51,707
Speaker 8: usual announced number.

468
00:20:51,507 --> 00:20:52,227
Speaker 10: Just record a race.

469
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Speaker 2: That's so where do they put them all? They can't

470
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Speaker 2: all be seated, surely.

471
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Speaker 8: No, not at all. Now, So these green stands around

472
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Speaker 8: the kind of main bins and turns and whatnot and

473
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Speaker 8: overtaking its own. So then pretty much in between there

474
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Speaker 8: it's just a bit of a free for all really,

475
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Speaker 8: and it's all standing. And it's usually about me to

476
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Speaker 8: meet a back from the track and it's all kind

477
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Speaker 8: of standing. They've got a couple of grass banks and

478
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Speaker 8: verges and a couple of like little mixture stands. That's

479
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Speaker 8: were a lot of live. I've got a couple of

480
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Speaker 8: mates off send down in the in the ga they

481
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Speaker 8: kind of find this spot post up for the day

482
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Speaker 8: and say.

483
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Speaker 2: There outstanding, So what are you? What are you predicting

484
00:21:21,707 --> 00:21:24,027
Speaker 2: this afternoon for for Liam Lawson? What would be good

485
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Speaker 2: for him this afternoon?

486
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Speaker 8: That's it's going to be hard. But I mean the

487
00:21:27,867 --> 00:21:30,787
Speaker 8: thing I would say, as you know, we all know

488
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Speaker 8: what happened yesterday, where he where he is, and given

489
00:21:34,027 --> 00:21:36,107
Speaker 8: the conditions, you could naff for much more, you know.

490
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Speaker 8: But it was a dry race, you know where I'll

491
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Speaker 8: be probably you know I was enthusiastic, but wet race,

492
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Speaker 8: anything could happen, literally anything could happen.

493
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Speaker 7: You know.

494
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Speaker 8: One thing a lot of people will think they have

495
00:21:45,227 --> 00:21:48,027
Speaker 8: been talking about here is oh, yeah, we've just seen

496
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Speaker 8: Liam's girlfriend just walk past, So it could could be

497
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Speaker 8: seeing Lim Lawson soon actually and basically yea, so basically

498
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Speaker 8: that's yeah. So it's going to happen, and if he's

499
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Speaker 8: going to get a chance, it'll be during the wet race.

500
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Speaker 2: All right, So so can we can we can say

501
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Speaker 2: live on here, you've seen Liam Lawson's girlfriend. I think

502
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Speaker 2: this is good, just walk past.

503
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Speaker 8: She's got a bit of security detail with her. She's

504
00:22:08,587 --> 00:22:10,627
Speaker 8: gone into padic now, so i'd say he's about to

505
00:22:10,667 --> 00:22:11,387
Speaker 8: come past as well.

506
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Speaker 2: So yeah, what sort of security detail have you employed?

507
00:22:15,427 --> 00:22:16,067
Speaker 6: I haven't got in it.

508
00:22:16,147 --> 00:22:16,787
Speaker 8: Do you know something?

509
00:22:16,947 --> 00:22:19,107
Speaker 2: No, I just feel as though you're the kind of

510
00:22:19,107 --> 00:22:21,867
Speaker 2: guy who would need to be protected from the great unwashed.

511
00:22:22,507 --> 00:22:23,907
Speaker 8: No, mate, I don't know. I need se hear it

512
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Speaker 8: everwhere from myself.

513
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Speaker 2: Great to chant. Yeah, I guess the enjoy enjoyed today, mate,

514
00:22:28,187 --> 00:22:31,027
Speaker 2: Thanks for thanks for phoning in. Just funny all of

515
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Speaker 2: its mate, There you go, our angers. He's become a

516
00:22:32,867 --> 00:22:35,587
Speaker 2: bit of a regular here. On weekend Sport. He was

517
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Speaker 2: out on the water at Sale GP, he's over at

518
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Speaker 2: the Australian Grand Prix. Goodness only knows where he might

519
00:22:40,667 --> 00:22:43,067
Speaker 2: end up next. Twelve twenty nine O eight one hundred

520
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Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty. Let's talk some if one Mark

521
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Speaker 2: can I mate?

522
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Speaker 4: Yeah, gys, the lucky by isn't there?

523
00:22:48,987 --> 00:22:51,867
Speaker 2: He certainly is. Yeah, that lucky is one word for it. Yes, indeed.

524
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was listening to your show yesterday and a

525
00:22:56,107 --> 00:22:58,827
Speaker 4: squad and cight for really how it seems like the

526
00:22:59,267 --> 00:23:03,347
Speaker 4: Red Bull Carr is very difficult to drive and you know,

527
00:23:03,507 --> 00:23:07,427
Speaker 4: maybe we underestimate how good men for stuff and is

528
00:23:07,587 --> 00:23:11,267
Speaker 4: and probably peris. You know, listening to your show yesterday

529
00:23:11,387 --> 00:23:14,267
Speaker 4: was sort of a bit maligned really because you know

530
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Speaker 4: it could be that that car is just so hard

531
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Speaker 4: to drive. You know, it takes a very good driver

532
00:23:20,027 --> 00:23:22,627
Speaker 4: to tame it almost and you know, seeing what happened

533
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Speaker 4: to Liam Lawson yesterday considering Uki, well he qualified fiftill

534
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Speaker 4: six something and yeah, and maybe that that other car,

535
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Speaker 4: even though it's less performance, it's easier to drive. And

536
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Speaker 4: to me, yeah it was. It was a really good

537
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Speaker 4: interview you did yesterday and it's sort of yeah, gave

538
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Speaker 4: him with a lot more information than I sort of

539
00:23:45,507 --> 00:23:48,547
Speaker 4: knew about it, you know, But yeah, maybe he's driving

540
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Speaker 4: a really difficult car.

541
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Speaker 2: Well, I think that's I did some more reading on it.

542
00:23:52,387 --> 00:23:55,507
Speaker 2: Mark and the number two seat at red Ball, you know,

543
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Speaker 2: behind or alongside the step and well actually behind him,

544
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Speaker 2: let's be honest, has been a bit of a poison

545
00:24:00,227 --> 00:24:02,227
Speaker 2: jealous You're right. I mean the car is set up,

546
00:24:02,427 --> 00:24:04,907
Speaker 2: the car set up for Max and as it was,

547
00:24:05,827 --> 00:24:07,707
Speaker 2: it was one of our two guests yesterday, Bob McMurray,

548
00:24:07,707 --> 00:24:10,027
Speaker 2: I think it was, he said, look whatever Max, whatever

549
00:24:10,067 --> 00:24:12,587
Speaker 2: Max wants, Max gets and you kind of have to

550
00:24:12,627 --> 00:24:14,907
Speaker 2: put up with that. So yeah, maybe he's just got

551
00:24:14,947 --> 00:24:17,427
Speaker 2: a very unique style of driving, which you know, for

552
00:24:17,547 --> 00:24:21,267
Speaker 2: him has been tremendously successful, but for his number two

553
00:24:21,907 --> 00:24:23,787
Speaker 2: is something that takes a bit of getting used to.

554
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, Prarie has had some pretty awful results,

555
00:24:28,107 --> 00:24:30,587
Speaker 4: and I mean put people put it down to whatever

556
00:24:30,667 --> 00:24:32,867
Speaker 4: the yips like in golf or something like that. But

557
00:24:33,307 --> 00:24:34,707
Speaker 4: I mean maybe it's just the car.

558
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean that.

559
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Speaker 4: It'd be interesting to see how he develops at a

560
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Speaker 4: time because he's obviously got the talent. He wouldn't be

561
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Speaker 4: one of the twenty drivers. He's got a seat less

562
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Speaker 4: of you know, done the metrics on him and know

563
00:24:44,707 --> 00:24:46,027
Speaker 4: how good he is to get there, you know.

564
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Speaker 2: Indeed, yeah, they must see something in them which a

565
00:24:48,707 --> 00:24:50,987
Speaker 2: lot of people have looking forward to seeing. Our plays

566
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Speaker 2: are out. Mark, good to chat, toy mat, Thanks for

567
00:24:52,867 --> 00:24:55,267
Speaker 2: calling in eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is our

568
00:24:55,347 --> 00:24:58,667
Speaker 2: number on text from Ian's success would be one finish

569
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Speaker 2: the race. Two if he even picks up one point,

570
00:25:02,267 --> 00:25:04,547
Speaker 2: I think the team would be wrapped after the Q

571
00:25:04,627 --> 00:25:06,787
Speaker 2: three problems with the car. Thanks, and yeah, it certainly

572
00:25:06,827 --> 00:25:09,307
Speaker 2: didn't go the way that Liam Lawson would have hoped

573
00:25:09,747 --> 00:25:13,187
Speaker 2: in practice or in qualifying. It goes without saying, doesn't it.

574
00:25:13,187 --> 00:25:17,787
Speaker 2: He's back in eighteenth on the grid. But funny things

575
00:25:17,827 --> 00:25:19,787
Speaker 2: happen when it rains in F one is another thing

576
00:25:19,827 --> 00:25:22,827
Speaker 2: that I've learned from listening to people who are a

577
00:25:22,827 --> 00:25:25,187
Speaker 2: lot more in the know than me. If you're in

578
00:25:25,227 --> 00:25:27,107
Speaker 2: the know, or even if you dislike to chew this over,

579
00:25:27,307 --> 00:25:29,787
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is our number. Nine

580
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Speaker 2: two ninety two for text messages. Twenty eight to one

581
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Speaker 2: term hold there with you right after the spear line

582
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Speaker 2: if you would like to jump aboard as we talk

583
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Speaker 2: Formula one until one here on news Talks, heb.

584
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585
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Speaker 2: Twenty five to one News Talks. HEB talking Formula one

588
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Speaker 2: O eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Any thoughts on

589
00:25:53,267 --> 00:25:55,667
Speaker 2: the Australian Grand Prix if you've been, I'd be keen

590
00:25:55,707 --> 00:25:58,667
Speaker 2: to hear about your experiences there. We just had angus

591
00:25:59,387 --> 00:26:02,187
Speaker 2: from deep in the hospitality sector. By the sounds of

592
00:26:02,227 --> 00:26:04,987
Speaker 2: it there, If you've been, what's it like? What was

593
00:26:05,027 --> 00:26:08,507
Speaker 2: the experience like? We're going to oh, eight hundred and

594
00:26:08,547 --> 00:26:12,507
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty five hundred thousand people across the across

595
00:26:12,547 --> 00:26:15,427
Speaker 2: the duration of the event. Hello, Tim, thanks for holding

596
00:26:16,107 --> 00:26:18,547
Speaker 2: hi plenty. How are you, Tim? Im great?

597
00:26:19,387 --> 00:26:22,307
Speaker 12: It's good. I can the former way that's hot tonon

598
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Speaker 12: Hopenyll be lots of safety cars.

599
00:26:25,427 --> 00:26:28,107
Speaker 2: Lots of safety cars, So explain it to all of us, Tim,

600
00:26:28,147 --> 00:26:29,587
Speaker 2: they come out when there's a crash.

601
00:26:29,347 --> 00:26:32,027
Speaker 12: Right, Yes, there were heaps of crasses.

602
00:26:32,667 --> 00:26:34,787
Speaker 2: Just because of the weather. Do you think that's it's

603
00:26:34,827 --> 00:26:36,507
Speaker 2: going to be the main factor this afternoon?

604
00:26:37,547 --> 00:26:41,747
Speaker 12: You may bee maybe here yep, yeah, well we all

605
00:26:41,827 --> 00:26:42,427
Speaker 12: over the place.

606
00:26:43,107 --> 00:26:46,267
Speaker 2: Given that, then, Tim, and there seems to be playing

607
00:26:46,307 --> 00:26:49,707
Speaker 2: into someone like Liam Lawson's hands because he's so far back.

608
00:26:49,747 --> 00:26:51,507
Speaker 2: You would have to expect that on a dry day

609
00:26:51,867 --> 00:26:54,107
Speaker 2: with fewer crashes, hard of him to make his way

610
00:26:54,147 --> 00:26:57,387
Speaker 2: up the field. So from eighteenth there's actually is it

611
00:26:57,427 --> 00:27:00,107
Speaker 2: better that he's sort of away, way back and the

612
00:27:00,147 --> 00:27:01,907
Speaker 2: carnage might all just happen in front of him?

613
00:27:02,907 --> 00:27:06,267
Speaker 12: Yes, yes you are there, because I watched a car

614
00:27:06,427 --> 00:27:07,867
Speaker 12: phone last night too.

615
00:27:07,867 --> 00:27:11,547
Speaker 2: Well, so what did you what else did you take

616
00:27:11,547 --> 00:27:14,027
Speaker 2: out of qualifying? Do you think the to McLaren's are

617
00:27:14,067 --> 00:27:15,107
Speaker 2: by far the fastest?

618
00:27:16,147 --> 00:27:20,507
Speaker 12: Yes, yes, yep, you are Yep, all.

619
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Speaker 2: Right, Tim, tell us give us, give us a finishing

620
00:27:22,907 --> 00:27:28,787
Speaker 2: position for Liam then still come eighth, eighth Yep. I

621
00:27:28,827 --> 00:27:31,947
Speaker 2: love the optimism, Tim, I love the optimism. Thanks for

622
00:27:31,987 --> 00:27:34,867
Speaker 2: calling in, mate, Lando Norris and Oscar Piastre. The to

623
00:27:35,027 --> 00:27:37,907
Speaker 2: McLaren drivers are on the front rid of the grid,

624
00:27:38,227 --> 00:27:41,707
Speaker 2: Max for Stappin and George Russell, who as you heard

625
00:27:41,787 --> 00:27:44,187
Speaker 2: Chris Midland say, I've got a bit of beef. That'll

626
00:27:44,187 --> 00:27:46,667
Speaker 2: be interesting to watch the first corner. I think Noras

627
00:27:46,667 --> 00:27:48,787
Speaker 2: and Piastre. They're obviously teammates. They'll get to the first

628
00:27:48,787 --> 00:27:51,667
Speaker 2: corner first. The Stappin and Russell just keep an eye

629
00:27:51,707 --> 00:27:54,387
Speaker 2: on that as as they head towards the first corner.

630
00:27:54,587 --> 00:27:56,747
Speaker 2: And Yuki Sonoda, who of course is part of the

631
00:27:56,867 --> 00:27:59,627
Speaker 2: Racing Bulls set up, but in the second sort of

632
00:27:59,667 --> 00:28:02,027
Speaker 2: the second team, if you like, fifth on the grid.

633
00:28:02,507 --> 00:28:04,947
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm sure that the fans of Yuki

634
00:28:05,027 --> 00:28:07,787
Speaker 2: Sonoda are looking at that and looking at Liam Lawson

635
00:28:07,827 --> 00:28:11,267
Speaker 2: in eighteenth and saying I told you so, there's a

636
00:28:11,267 --> 00:28:13,507
Speaker 2: lot more to it than that, But Yuki Sanoda is

637
00:28:13,587 --> 00:28:14,947
Speaker 2: fifth on the grid.

638
00:28:15,147 --> 00:28:20,147
Speaker 13: Kelly, Hello, Yeah, and I'm just talk about Lamb. I

639
00:28:20,187 --> 00:28:24,027
Speaker 13: think his main role in the team for the Red

640
00:28:24,067 --> 00:28:27,627
Speaker 13: Ball he has to score points. If he doesn't score points,

641
00:28:28,387 --> 00:28:30,387
Speaker 13: that's going to put the pressure on him every time

642
00:28:30,387 --> 00:28:34,747
Speaker 13: he doesn't score points. So that's his whole idea of

643
00:28:34,787 --> 00:28:38,107
Speaker 13: being in the team because they are after constructor point.

644
00:28:39,387 --> 00:28:43,147
Speaker 13: So I think that he's got to finish in the

645
00:28:43,187 --> 00:28:45,187
Speaker 13: top ten. If he doesn't finish in the top ten,

646
00:28:45,267 --> 00:28:45,987
Speaker 13: it's not a good.

647
00:28:45,907 --> 00:28:46,507
Speaker 11: Day for him.

648
00:28:46,667 --> 00:28:49,107
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Kelly make a great point because I've heard

649
00:28:49,107 --> 00:28:51,507
Speaker 2: that spoken about a lot that Red Bull as much

650
00:28:51,547 --> 00:28:54,947
Speaker 2: as obviously the steppens there man to win the Drivers Championship,

651
00:28:55,267 --> 00:28:58,027
Speaker 2: the Constructors Championship still has quite a bit of prestige

652
00:28:58,027 --> 00:28:58,627
Speaker 2: about it, does it.

653
00:28:59,667 --> 00:29:02,147
Speaker 13: Yeah, well that's where they get their money from. The

654
00:29:02,267 --> 00:29:06,147
Speaker 13: money other than their sponsors, they get right from the

655
00:29:06,147 --> 00:29:11,227
Speaker 13: te T viewership, so that's money for that. So for

656
00:29:11,387 --> 00:29:14,907
Speaker 13: every point that you get, the further up the chain

657
00:29:15,027 --> 00:29:18,627
Speaker 13: you follow. It's like Ferrari, they went from I think

658
00:29:19,467 --> 00:29:21,867
Speaker 13: I think they went from first position last year and

659
00:29:21,907 --> 00:29:27,267
Speaker 13: then they dropped back to second and they lost so

660
00:29:27,347 --> 00:29:31,027
Speaker 13: much money. And it's all about money, there's nothing else.

661
00:29:31,147 --> 00:29:35,467
Speaker 13: And it's the same with Jack Doing and the other team.

662
00:29:35,787 --> 00:29:37,907
Speaker 13: If he doesn't perform, there's a guy sitting there and

663
00:29:37,987 --> 00:29:41,107
Speaker 13: he's bringing twenty three million dollars to the team, so

664
00:29:41,467 --> 00:29:45,587
Speaker 13: he's got a lot more pressure on him. So it's

665
00:29:45,667 --> 00:29:48,027
Speaker 13: all about money. And if you're not in the points,

666
00:29:48,987 --> 00:29:51,387
Speaker 13: it means not thing. That's why they weren't happy with

667
00:29:51,467 --> 00:29:54,827
Speaker 13: Perez and they canceled his contract for this year as

668
00:29:55,067 --> 00:29:58,747
Speaker 13: as he wasn't scoring points. And Red Ball went from

669
00:29:59,227 --> 00:30:03,947
Speaker 13: being the Drivers Champion team to being third, So they

670
00:30:04,027 --> 00:30:09,587
Speaker 13: get third pack of position, like for your garaging, So

671
00:30:09,787 --> 00:30:12,827
Speaker 13: number one team gets the first pack, so then then

672
00:30:12,867 --> 00:30:16,667
Speaker 13: it goes down from that, so they get the end

673
00:30:16,707 --> 00:30:19,947
Speaker 13: of either the first of the gate packs or the last.

674
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Speaker 2: Kelly, it seems as though McLaren are faster than everybody else.

675
00:30:25,747 --> 00:30:28,827
Speaker 2: They're the first two group positions. So how difficult is

676
00:30:28,827 --> 00:30:31,387
Speaker 2: it going to be for anybody else, Red Ball, Ferrari,

677
00:30:31,467 --> 00:30:35,427
Speaker 2: Mercedes to even challenge them for the Constructors Championship.

678
00:30:36,387 --> 00:30:42,067
Speaker 13: Oh but you saw last year how red Bull and

679
00:30:42,227 --> 00:30:45,107
Speaker 13: Ferrari were fast at the start of last year. Halfway

680
00:30:45,147 --> 00:30:48,307
Speaker 13: through the season, McLaren just packed up the game and

681
00:30:48,707 --> 00:30:53,507
Speaker 13: they just ran away with it. The best team is McLaren.

682
00:30:53,587 --> 00:30:58,187
Speaker 13: They got the two best drivers as in competitiveness, they

683
00:30:58,227 --> 00:31:01,027
Speaker 13: ain't going to decide who's going to be the number

684
00:31:01,067 --> 00:31:04,707
Speaker 13: one driver until halfway through that season, so they'll just

685
00:31:04,787 --> 00:31:06,467
Speaker 13: leave it up to the two. But they are I'm

686
00:31:06,507 --> 00:31:08,987
Speaker 13: not allowed to take each other out. It's a no no.

687
00:31:09,467 --> 00:31:13,667
Speaker 13: And so between the two drivers, whoever gets to jump

688
00:31:13,707 --> 00:31:15,987
Speaker 13: on the start and being in the wet once you're

689
00:31:16,027 --> 00:31:19,307
Speaker 13: out front, you've got clear visibility behind you. You've got

690
00:31:19,347 --> 00:31:22,227
Speaker 13: to spray of those rooster tails. I don't know how

691
00:31:22,267 --> 00:31:24,987
Speaker 13: anybody can see. And they got to look at their

692
00:31:25,027 --> 00:31:28,467
Speaker 13: breaking marks, and if you want to attempt to pass someone,

693
00:31:28,867 --> 00:31:32,827
Speaker 13: you've got to be real brave and say. And then

694
00:31:32,867 --> 00:31:36,707
Speaker 13: on a street circuit there's no runoff, there is no

695
00:31:36,787 --> 00:31:39,107
Speaker 13: runoff to go. It's into the fence and that's it.

696
00:31:39,707 --> 00:31:43,507
Speaker 13: So you're either going to be hero or zero. And

697
00:31:43,907 --> 00:31:47,347
Speaker 13: with you Yuki, he's very good in the rain, and

698
00:31:47,427 --> 00:31:51,387
Speaker 13: so is for Staffan. So it's actually good to see

699
00:31:51,467 --> 00:31:57,387
Speaker 13: that Yuki's up there. But I think just trying to

700
00:31:57,547 --> 00:32:00,707
Speaker 13: get points for that team, because the more points that

701
00:32:00,907 --> 00:32:06,547
Speaker 13: team's worth, the better sailor is for Red Bull because

702
00:32:06,547 --> 00:32:08,627
Speaker 13: they've been trying to sell that team to someone else

703
00:32:08,747 --> 00:32:12,867
Speaker 13: to take over. But when you're not getting money from

704
00:32:12,947 --> 00:32:16,507
Speaker 13: the TV rights, it's not worth a lot. But if

705
00:32:16,507 --> 00:32:19,907
Speaker 13: it's up there and the point, so if they can

706
00:32:19,947 --> 00:32:22,227
Speaker 13: get two drivers and they in the top ten, they

707
00:32:22,267 --> 00:32:23,947
Speaker 13: get points, it's worth money.

708
00:32:24,947 --> 00:32:26,907
Speaker 2: Great analysis, Kelly, Just so just before you go, so,

709
00:32:27,187 --> 00:32:31,267
Speaker 2: so Lando Norris an Oscar Piastree are aren't a one two,

710
00:32:32,147 --> 00:32:34,547
Speaker 2: you know, in any particular order for McLaren at the.

711
00:32:34,467 --> 00:32:41,147
Speaker 13: Moment, I think Lando is number one. But they still

712
00:32:41,187 --> 00:32:46,147
Speaker 13: give the rights for Oscar to go hard at them.

713
00:32:46,387 --> 00:32:49,307
Speaker 13: They don't they don't say no you can't do this

714
00:32:49,427 --> 00:32:52,347
Speaker 13: and you can't do that. Sometimes they do. They don't

715
00:32:52,427 --> 00:32:57,067
Speaker 13: want to jeopardize the points, and they'll say, right, you've

716
00:32:57,067 --> 00:32:58,667
Speaker 13: got to pull over and let the other one pass

717
00:32:58,667 --> 00:33:02,307
Speaker 13: because he got pole whatever, and he's done a better job.

718
00:33:02,947 --> 00:33:09,627
Speaker 13: The thing is with like when you look at Mercedes,

719
00:33:10,227 --> 00:33:13,227
Speaker 13: George Russell was their number one driver, so if anyone

720
00:33:14,267 --> 00:33:17,707
Speaker 13: Antonelli is starting to beat him too much, they'll say,

721
00:33:17,707 --> 00:33:19,507
Speaker 13: you've got to pull back and let George.

722
00:33:19,267 --> 00:33:21,707
Speaker 11: Russell through because they want George to win.

723
00:33:22,467 --> 00:33:25,627
Speaker 13: And then it's the same with Ferrari. Last year it

724
00:33:25,707 --> 00:33:28,787
Speaker 13: was Leclair. They wanted Leclair to be on points. They

725
00:33:28,947 --> 00:33:35,667
Speaker 13: told the Spaniard to pull back and he was sold off. So,

726
00:33:36,387 --> 00:33:39,107
Speaker 13: as I say, they most teams that have a number

727
00:33:39,107 --> 00:33:42,147
Speaker 13: one driver, it's same with Max. Max won't have a

728
00:33:42,227 --> 00:33:47,307
Speaker 13: driver that will challenge him. They'll just say, no, you

729
00:33:47,347 --> 00:33:50,987
Speaker 13: hang back. And that's how it is. You either like

730
00:33:51,067 --> 00:33:53,347
Speaker 13: it or your lump. But when Riccardo was there and

731
00:33:53,387 --> 00:33:57,627
Speaker 13: Max joined Ricardo, it used to be Riccardo was the

732
00:33:57,747 --> 00:34:00,227
Speaker 13: number one and then all of a sudden it went

733
00:34:00,267 --> 00:34:04,747
Speaker 13: to Max. And that's why Riccardo actually left Red Ball

734
00:34:04,787 --> 00:34:05,627
Speaker 13: in the first place.

735
00:34:06,387 --> 00:34:08,747
Speaker 2: You've got a move mate, but you've given us great insight. Thanks.

736
00:34:08,787 --> 00:34:11,067
Speaker 2: I know you'll be keeping a close signent this afternoon.

737
00:34:11,267 --> 00:34:14,227
Speaker 2: Thanks indeed for your call, Appreciate it very much. Seventeen

738
00:34:14,267 --> 00:34:16,427
Speaker 2: to one News Talk to be after the break. Another

739
00:34:16,467 --> 00:34:19,387
Speaker 2: one of our top motorsport exponents, albeit in a slightly

740
00:34:19,387 --> 00:34:23,107
Speaker 2: different car, Hayden Padden on Liam Lawson when we come

741
00:34:23,107 --> 00:34:24,227
Speaker 2: back the.

742
00:34:24,267 --> 00:34:28,147
Speaker 1: Tough questions off the turf Weekend Sport with Jason Pine

743
00:34:28,227 --> 00:34:35,227
Speaker 1: and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder News talking.

744
00:34:33,947 --> 00:34:35,987
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson at the F one Grand Prix. Another of

745
00:34:35,987 --> 00:34:38,707
Speaker 2: our elite drivers willbeit in a rally cars Hayden Padden,

746
00:34:38,747 --> 00:34:42,187
Speaker 2: who last year on a second straight European Rally Championship,

747
00:34:42,187 --> 00:34:45,707
Speaker 2: the latest achievement in his storied and ongoing career. Hayden

748
00:34:45,747 --> 00:34:47,707
Speaker 2: patterns with us how do you reckon? Liam will be

749
00:34:47,747 --> 00:34:49,867
Speaker 2: feeling ahead of his first start in the full time

750
00:34:49,907 --> 00:34:50,747
Speaker 2: seat this afternoon.

751
00:34:50,747 --> 00:34:54,907
Speaker 10: Hayden obviously is a massive opportunity for Liam, and I

752
00:34:54,947 --> 00:34:57,947
Speaker 10: guess that the first emotion will be excitement. You know,

753
00:34:57,987 --> 00:35:01,307
Speaker 10: it's a very big opportunity that he's got there and

754
00:35:01,347 --> 00:35:05,827
Speaker 10: something he's obviously worked very hard to achieve. So excitement,

755
00:35:05,827 --> 00:35:08,907
Speaker 10: but I guess that comes you know, pressure. You know,

756
00:35:08,947 --> 00:35:12,107
Speaker 10: it's a very cutthroat world of any professional sport, and

757
00:35:12,227 --> 00:35:14,907
Speaker 10: you know, while you want to enjoy the moment, you

758
00:35:14,987 --> 00:35:16,787
Speaker 10: know how much pressure there is to perform as well.

759
00:35:16,867 --> 00:35:18,827
Speaker 10: So I'm sure there'll be mixed emotions.

760
00:35:18,947 --> 00:35:20,867
Speaker 2: How do you deal with those mixed emotions? Because you've

761
00:35:20,947 --> 00:35:23,347
Speaker 2: landed on a really interesting point. Yeah you're excited, of

762
00:35:23,387 --> 00:35:25,667
Speaker 2: course you are, but it is cut throat. There are

763
00:35:25,707 --> 00:35:28,467
Speaker 2: only twenty of these seats, So how do you how

764
00:35:28,507 --> 00:35:32,107
Speaker 2: do you assess his ability to balance those emotions effectively?

765
00:35:33,747 --> 00:35:36,867
Speaker 10: I think just put the helmet on. What happens in

766
00:35:36,907 --> 00:35:39,147
Speaker 10: a lot of motors BEFO, you put the helmet on,

767
00:35:39,227 --> 00:35:42,827
Speaker 10: and you trust your instincts, and you trust your natural

768
00:35:42,827 --> 00:35:45,427
Speaker 10: skill and what's that you've got there in the first

769
00:35:45,427 --> 00:35:47,987
Speaker 10: place to go out and do the job. And you know,

770
00:35:48,067 --> 00:35:51,667
Speaker 10: adrenaline as a very powerful tool. I want to get

771
00:35:51,827 --> 00:35:54,147
Speaker 10: that in that sort of moment and get the tunnel

772
00:35:54,227 --> 00:35:57,827
Speaker 10: vision and I guess, do what you do best. Then

773
00:35:58,267 --> 00:36:01,107
Speaker 10: you just got to trust and bank yourself. Really, So yeah,

774
00:36:01,147 --> 00:36:03,667
Speaker 10: he's obviously very talented. That's what's got in there. Now

775
00:36:03,667 --> 00:36:05,307
Speaker 10: he's got to make sure he enjoys the moment and

776
00:36:05,547 --> 00:36:07,107
Speaker 10: lets her talent were talking.

777
00:36:07,427 --> 00:36:11,227
Speaker 2: In any car, in any form of motorsport. Are there

778
00:36:11,347 --> 00:36:14,187
Speaker 2: qualities that that all good drivers have in common?

779
00:36:16,307 --> 00:36:18,347
Speaker 10: I think the end of the day, you've got to

780
00:36:18,347 --> 00:36:21,107
Speaker 10: be patient as one of the biggest factors. It takes

781
00:36:21,107 --> 00:36:22,867
Speaker 10: a long time to get to the top of any sport,

782
00:36:22,907 --> 00:36:26,427
Speaker 10: particularly motorsport. But you know, you've got to be willing

783
00:36:26,427 --> 00:36:28,467
Speaker 10: to dig that much deeper. You've got to be willing

784
00:36:28,467 --> 00:36:30,907
Speaker 10: to take risks that maybe some others aren't prepared to take.

785
00:36:31,947 --> 00:36:33,787
Speaker 10: And you've got to be a good team player, you know,

786
00:36:33,947 --> 00:36:36,267
Speaker 10: despite former one that other being one person in the

787
00:36:36,307 --> 00:36:38,307
Speaker 10: car or any form of motorsport. You know, you've got

788
00:36:38,307 --> 00:36:40,947
Speaker 10: to work well with your engineers, your teammates.

789
00:36:41,027 --> 00:36:42,227
Speaker 2: It's about that whole package.

790
00:36:42,227 --> 00:36:44,987
Speaker 10: And you know, New Zealand's got some very good training

791
00:36:44,987 --> 00:36:47,627
Speaker 10: tools at a disposable here through lights of the Motorsport

792
00:36:47,667 --> 00:36:49,987
Speaker 10: Academy and things that helps young drivers loan some of

793
00:36:50,027 --> 00:36:53,787
Speaker 10: those traits from an early early age. And yeah, you've

794
00:36:53,827 --> 00:36:56,547
Speaker 10: just got to again trust and those things that we've planned.

795
00:37:00,547 --> 00:37:03,947
Speaker 2: Oh I've lost you there, you're still there aiding, Yeah, yep, yep,

796
00:37:03,947 --> 00:37:05,547
Speaker 2: sorry matey, I just lost you near the end of

797
00:37:05,587 --> 00:37:09,467
Speaker 2: that sentence, I think I've they're all good Formula one cars.

798
00:37:09,627 --> 00:37:12,787
Speaker 2: They can reach top speeds of what three hundred and

799
00:37:12,787 --> 00:37:15,227
Speaker 2: seventy five k ever its speed around three twenty during

800
00:37:15,227 --> 00:37:17,987
Speaker 2: a race and rally cars, you're also flying pretty close

801
00:37:18,027 --> 00:37:24,467
Speaker 2: to the line. How much of a factor does fear play.

802
00:37:23,667 --> 00:37:27,107
Speaker 10: None, I'd say, you know, we all get very comfortable

803
00:37:27,267 --> 00:37:30,267
Speaker 10: in our own environment. So you know, despite three hundred

804
00:37:30,307 --> 00:37:32,507
Speaker 10: and fifty plus climeter is sounding fast. You know when

805
00:37:32,547 --> 00:37:35,427
Speaker 10: you do it often enough, or you naturally want as

806
00:37:35,427 --> 00:37:38,867
Speaker 10: a race drivers, you want to go faster. So you know,

807
00:37:38,907 --> 00:37:40,707
Speaker 10: it's just what you adapt to, what you used to

808
00:37:40,867 --> 00:37:43,747
Speaker 10: and to be honest, you know, while you need is

809
00:37:43,787 --> 00:37:47,027
Speaker 10: an element of fear that creates the adrenaline that we

810
00:37:47,067 --> 00:37:49,907
Speaker 10: need and that we throve off. You can't be focused

811
00:37:49,907 --> 00:37:51,747
Speaker 10: on the fear. If you're worried about the fear, then

812
00:37:51,747 --> 00:37:54,387
Speaker 10: you're simply not going to drive fast. So it's not

813
00:37:54,427 --> 00:37:55,147
Speaker 10: a factor at all.

814
00:37:55,267 --> 00:37:58,067
Speaker 2: Do it take you as a driver, You know a

815
00:37:58,107 --> 00:38:01,107
Speaker 2: bit of time to get to that point where there

816
00:38:01,187 --> 00:38:02,707
Speaker 2: wasn't any trepidation anymore.

817
00:38:04,627 --> 00:38:07,827
Speaker 10: It comes with time their earlier life, you know, I

818
00:38:07,827 --> 00:38:10,067
Speaker 10: guess just once that novelty factor wears off and you

819
00:38:10,107 --> 00:38:12,827
Speaker 10: get used to something and becomes a lot more natural there.

820
00:38:13,307 --> 00:38:16,947
Speaker 10: You just you become more relaxed and more comfortable in

821
00:38:16,947 --> 00:38:19,387
Speaker 10: your surroundings and that's when things often happen a lot

822
00:38:19,387 --> 00:38:20,067
Speaker 10: easier as well.

823
00:38:20,947 --> 00:38:23,267
Speaker 2: And in the car, look, I don't know, but there

824
00:38:23,347 --> 00:38:27,027
Speaker 2: must be at those speeds some some fairly serious adrenaline,

825
00:38:27,267 --> 00:38:29,667
Speaker 2: you know, willing to pump itself through your veins. But

826
00:38:29,747 --> 00:38:33,267
Speaker 2: you've talked a couple of times they're about staying calm again,

827
00:38:33,387 --> 00:38:35,787
Speaker 2: is that a challenge in something that only comes with experience?

828
00:38:37,147 --> 00:38:40,387
Speaker 10: Definitely, Like everyone's different, of course, you know, how you

829
00:38:40,427 --> 00:38:42,747
Speaker 10: control your body and your heart rates and your mindset.

830
00:38:43,547 --> 00:38:45,547
Speaker 10: Some people need to pump themselves up, some people need

831
00:38:45,587 --> 00:38:47,587
Speaker 10: to calm themselves down. So you know, it is a

832
00:38:47,707 --> 00:38:52,467
Speaker 10: very personalized aspect of it. But again, the more you

833
00:38:52,507 --> 00:38:55,707
Speaker 10: do it, the easier it becomes, becomes second acre it.

834
00:38:55,707 --> 00:38:58,267
Speaker 10: It almost becomes like writing, like the more often that

835
00:38:58,307 --> 00:39:00,907
Speaker 10: you're doing it. So you know, particularly for Liam at

836
00:39:00,907 --> 00:39:02,787
Speaker 10: the start of it, obviously he's done a couple of

837
00:39:02,827 --> 00:39:05,107
Speaker 10: half seasons and former one now, but you know, as

838
00:39:05,107 --> 00:39:06,867
Speaker 10: a season progresses, he's going to get more and more

839
00:39:06,907 --> 00:39:09,787
Speaker 10: comfortable and fast and naturally and that's where you've got

840
00:39:09,827 --> 00:39:11,147
Speaker 10: to be patient. You're going to be patient with the

841
00:39:11,147 --> 00:39:14,307
Speaker 10: process because you know he we are a very competitive person.

842
00:39:14,787 --> 00:39:17,507
Speaker 10: He'll want results straight away and that's where you have

843
00:39:17,587 --> 00:39:19,507
Speaker 10: to be obviously patient to give as results.

844
00:39:19,907 --> 00:39:21,307
Speaker 2: How do you reckon? You'd go on an F one,

845
00:39:22,827 --> 00:39:23,227
Speaker 2: No good.

846
00:39:25,147 --> 00:39:27,667
Speaker 10: I prefer a bit of gravel and a roof over

847
00:39:27,707 --> 00:39:30,507
Speaker 10: me head. So I've grown up on the gravels since

848
00:39:30,547 --> 00:39:33,267
Speaker 10: I was a kid, So very different skill sets, but

849
00:39:33,747 --> 00:39:36,467
Speaker 10: obviously very excited to see what Lean's going to do

850
00:39:36,507 --> 00:39:38,987
Speaker 10: this weekend and obviously we want the key, we to

851
00:39:39,027 --> 00:39:40,547
Speaker 10: be up there at the front, so it's going to

852
00:39:40,587 --> 00:39:41,187
Speaker 10: be pretty excited.

853
00:39:41,267 --> 00:39:42,627
Speaker 2: Yeah, looking forward to it. You've had a bit on

854
00:39:42,707 --> 00:39:44,707
Speaker 2: as well. You took part in the Race of Champions

855
00:39:44,707 --> 00:39:46,787
Speaker 2: in Sydney last weekend. How do you enjoy that?

856
00:39:47,627 --> 00:39:48,067
Speaker 11: I loved it.

857
00:39:47,987 --> 00:39:50,587
Speaker 10: It was an awesome vent, different formats to what we

858
00:39:50,667 --> 00:39:52,707
Speaker 10: used to and probably didn't quite perform how I would

859
00:39:52,707 --> 00:39:56,107
Speaker 10: have liked, but yeah, it's just a cool event. Obviously,

860
00:39:56,107 --> 00:39:58,387
Speaker 10: now we get into our rally season started in Australia

861
00:39:58,387 --> 00:40:01,387
Speaker 10: next week as well in Canberra, and another busy season

862
00:40:01,387 --> 00:40:02,067
Speaker 10: and head on the gravel.

863
00:40:02,107 --> 00:40:04,987
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see the Australian Rally Championship is in your sight.

864
00:40:05,067 --> 00:40:07,587
Speaker 2: So is that your main focused for twenty twenty five.

865
00:40:08,427 --> 00:40:11,187
Speaker 10: Yeah, this stage it is. It's an unticked box. It's

866
00:40:11,227 --> 00:40:13,667
Speaker 10: something we haven't taken on before. So I love the

867
00:40:13,707 --> 00:40:15,667
Speaker 10: idea of a new challenge and something that hasn't been

868
00:40:15,667 --> 00:40:18,507
Speaker 10: done before and obviously possible. Was the last key to

869
00:40:18,507 --> 00:40:21,387
Speaker 10: go over there and win the championship, so we'd love

870
00:40:21,427 --> 00:40:24,147
Speaker 10: to go over and try and do something similar. But yeah,

871
00:40:24,147 --> 00:40:25,867
Speaker 10: it's going to be a big challenge, and we haven't

872
00:40:25,907 --> 00:40:28,227
Speaker 10: given up on Europe. You know. The budget hasn't quite

873
00:40:28,227 --> 00:40:29,827
Speaker 10: allowed to go back there at the moment this year,

874
00:40:29,867 --> 00:40:31,907
Speaker 10: but we are still in talks to try and get

875
00:40:31,907 --> 00:40:32,467
Speaker 10: back over there.

876
00:40:32,507 --> 00:40:35,507
Speaker 2: That's good to hear and something completely different. Ambassador at

877
00:40:35,507 --> 00:40:37,827
Speaker 2: the New Zealand Golf Open, How did you enjoy that?

878
00:40:38,867 --> 00:40:40,867
Speaker 10: Let's just saying driving a race car is easy than

879
00:40:40,867 --> 00:40:45,187
Speaker 10: playing golf, but no, I love it. You know, the

880
00:40:45,467 --> 00:40:47,507
Speaker 10: New Zealand it consessually one of my supporting highlights of

881
00:40:47,547 --> 00:40:49,427
Speaker 10: the week in terms of, you know, when all the

882
00:40:49,467 --> 00:40:51,827
Speaker 10: ambassadors get together and you know, we just have fun

883
00:40:51,947 --> 00:40:54,267
Speaker 10: and when you're on the course with the pros. It

884
00:40:54,307 --> 00:40:57,107
Speaker 10: really opens your eyes about how bad you your own golfers,

885
00:40:57,467 --> 00:40:59,547
Speaker 10: but just also just how good they are. And it's

886
00:40:59,587 --> 00:41:01,827
Speaker 10: just a it's a cool weekend. It's in a pretty

887
00:41:01,947 --> 00:41:03,107
Speaker 10: techular backdrop too.

888
00:41:03,187 --> 00:41:05,867
Speaker 2: Good man, Hayden. We'll all be glued glued to our

889
00:41:05,907 --> 00:41:08,147
Speaker 2: TV to watch Liam this weekend and looking forward to

890
00:41:08,187 --> 00:41:09,987
Speaker 2: seeing how you go in twenty twenty five as well.

891
00:41:10,107 --> 00:41:11,827
Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the time for a chat mate, great

892
00:41:11,907 --> 00:41:14,067
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Thank you, No, thank you, Hayden. Hayden Patten.

893
00:41:14,107 --> 00:41:15,987
Speaker 2: On News Talks, There're b seven to one. The Rugby

894
00:41:15,987 --> 00:41:18,787
Speaker 2: Direct podcast are releasing a special edition at five o'clock

895
00:41:18,827 --> 00:41:21,987
Speaker 2: Tuesday morning, Elliott and Liam with Mark Robinson and Scott

896
00:41:22,067 --> 00:41:25,747
Speaker 2: Robertson discussing various issues, including the spring Box at Eden

897
00:41:25,827 --> 00:41:26,507
Speaker 2: Park this year.

898
00:41:26,627 --> 00:41:29,907
Speaker 14: You mentioned Eden Park September the sixth, Yeah, how much

899
00:41:29,907 --> 00:41:31,867
Speaker 14: you're looking forward to that test already? The springbox coming

900
00:41:31,907 --> 00:41:32,227
Speaker 14: to town.

901
00:41:32,427 --> 00:41:35,067
Speaker 15: Yeah, a great opportunity. You know it's on the line,

902
00:41:35,107 --> 00:41:36,947
Speaker 15: isn't it. Those are the ones you want to play

903
00:41:36,987 --> 00:41:40,587
Speaker 15: in and those ones that get Rugby every news. Jalnors

904
00:41:40,707 --> 00:41:44,787
Speaker 15: So everyone excited about so you It's definitely on their calendar.

905
00:41:44,907 --> 00:41:48,507
Speaker 2: It's exciting Rugby Direct Special edition five am Tuesday morning.

906
00:41:50,227 --> 00:41:53,147
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

907
00:41:53,507 --> 00:41:54,667
Speaker 1: and after fields.

908
00:41:55,187 --> 00:41:56,787
Speaker 7: It's all on Weekend.

909
00:41:56,427 --> 00:42:00,907
Speaker 16: Ford with Jason Pade on your home of Sport with

910
00:42:01,027 --> 00:42:02,307
Speaker 16: you Talks.

911
00:42:02,387 --> 00:42:04,387
Speaker 2: Hello, They're welcome in one o sevens the time. I'm

912
00:42:04,467 --> 00:42:07,227
Speaker 2: Jason Pine and McDonald's show producer us this Weekend Sport

913
00:42:07,307 --> 00:42:12,707
Speaker 2: until three. Still hammering down in Melbourne. Will keep eyes

914
00:42:12,747 --> 00:42:16,347
Speaker 2: on that as race time draws closer five o'clock, we're

915
00:42:16,347 --> 00:42:18,667
Speaker 2: going to move away from Formula one for the meantime

916
00:42:18,747 --> 00:42:21,707
Speaker 2: after these texts. Of course, Aiden says, there's a great

917
00:42:21,787 --> 00:42:25,627
Speaker 2: video of Alex Albin talking about Max and the Red

918
00:42:25,627 --> 00:42:28,027
Speaker 2: Bull car on YouTube from when he was there. Kind

919
00:42:28,027 --> 00:42:30,707
Speaker 2: of makes sense why the number two drivers at Red

920
00:42:30,707 --> 00:42:36,027
Speaker 2: Bull struggle after watching that. Thank you, Aiden, Karen says, Piney,

921
00:42:36,147 --> 00:42:38,587
Speaker 2: my nineteen year old son and his nineteen year old

922
00:42:38,627 --> 00:42:41,027
Speaker 2: mate are at Albert Park. They paid their own way.

923
00:42:41,627 --> 00:42:47,387
Speaker 2: Hashtag school leavers straight into jobs. It's a long hashtag. Unfortunately,

924
00:42:47,387 --> 00:42:50,307
Speaker 2: says Karen, the daily Proof of Life texts have stopped.

925
00:42:50,547 --> 00:42:53,427
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're fine, Karen, I'm sure they're fine. Speaking

926
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Speaker 2: of which you might have heard us talking to Angus

927
00:42:56,947 --> 00:43:00,507
Speaker 2: last hour, and as we were talking to him, Liam

928
00:43:00,547 --> 00:43:05,747
Speaker 2: Lawson's girlfriend walked past where he was and so you know,

929
00:43:06,067 --> 00:43:08,347
Speaker 2: Lot would suggest that perhaps Liam was there in the

930
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Speaker 2: vicinity as well.

931
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Speaker 7: Well.

932
00:43:09,787 --> 00:43:13,107
Speaker 2: Shortly after we hung up the phone, a text arrived

933
00:43:13,107 --> 00:43:17,067
Speaker 2: from Angus a picture of he and Liam Lawson. So

934
00:43:17,507 --> 00:43:20,747
Speaker 2: we timed that terribly, didn't we. If we've been talking

935
00:43:20,747 --> 00:43:24,387
Speaker 2: to Angus Andy and Liam Lawson had walked past and

936
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Speaker 2: had just handed the phone over, we could have got

937
00:43:26,227 --> 00:43:29,147
Speaker 2: one of those exclusives that mean so much.

938
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Speaker 17: That's generally how I try to time most of our

939
00:43:31,587 --> 00:43:34,667
Speaker 17: interviews to be honest, Piney, do you yeah, yeah, just

940
00:43:34,667 --> 00:43:36,867
Speaker 17: just on the hope that we could get someone even

941
00:43:36,907 --> 00:43:41,507
Speaker 17: more famous.

942
00:43:38,867 --> 00:43:41,107
Speaker 2: So we just get in touch with people who are

943
00:43:41,107 --> 00:43:43,947
Speaker 2: in the general vicinity of famous people.

944
00:43:44,107 --> 00:43:47,347
Speaker 17: That's been the plan for about three and a half years, Piney.

945
00:43:47,707 --> 00:43:49,467
Speaker 17: Should we call Angus now he might be able to

946
00:43:49,507 --> 00:43:52,467
Speaker 17: Boss Hamilton might be walking. Maybe they were just given

947
00:43:52,507 --> 00:43:55,827
Speaker 17: him three hours of your time, and hopefully should he

948
00:43:55,907 --> 00:43:57,187
Speaker 17: host actually even he.

949
00:43:58,107 --> 00:44:00,707
Speaker 2: Could do an outside broadcast from Albert Park. Now great

950
00:44:00,707 --> 00:44:03,147
Speaker 2: to get the text from Angus that he got the

951
00:44:03,147 --> 00:44:06,587
Speaker 2: selfie with Liam Lawson. Good stuff. Maybe that's the stroke

952
00:44:06,627 --> 00:44:10,067
Speaker 2: of lucky needs. Heading into the race this afternoon, Mitchell

953
00:44:10,147 --> 00:44:12,627
Speaker 2: says Norris to win, Land of Norris to win. The

954
00:44:12,707 --> 00:44:14,867
Speaker 2: watch out for Williams. They'll be good. And I think,

955
00:44:15,267 --> 00:44:18,147
Speaker 2: says Mitchell, that Liam may struggle in the wet. He

956
00:44:18,227 --> 00:44:21,027
Speaker 2: doesn't have too much experience in the wet or on

957
00:44:21,067 --> 00:44:22,907
Speaker 2: this track. Thank you very much indeed for all your

958
00:44:22,947 --> 00:44:27,147
Speaker 2: calls and correspondence. The White Ferns are about to beat

959
00:44:27,187 --> 00:44:31,667
Speaker 2: Sri Lanka. They need one run with ten balls remaining

960
00:44:32,347 --> 00:44:36,547
Speaker 2: three down. One thirteen for seven is what Sri Lanka got.

961
00:44:36,667 --> 00:44:39,587
Speaker 2: The White Ferns are one thirteen for three with Sharp

962
00:44:39,707 --> 00:44:42,707
Speaker 2: and Halliday out there. So as I say, one more

963
00:44:42,787 --> 00:44:45,587
Speaker 2: run from ten balls and they will tie that series.

964
00:44:45,787 --> 00:44:47,867
Speaker 2: And as we speak to you, the one run has achieved,

965
00:44:48,347 --> 00:44:51,787
Speaker 2: smash down the ground for four. There we go, game over?

966
00:44:52,747 --> 00:44:55,947
Speaker 2: Is he sharpening the winning runs and New Zealand winning

967
00:44:55,947 --> 00:44:58,347
Speaker 2: by seven wickets. So on around an hour or so,

968
00:44:58,387 --> 00:45:01,467
Speaker 2: it'll be the black Caps turn up against Pakistan doubleheader

969
00:45:01,667 --> 00:45:05,507
Speaker 2: on a beautiful day in christ Church. So will I

970
00:45:05,547 --> 00:45:09,187
Speaker 2: bring you team new and toss details, et cetera and

971
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Speaker 2: pregres scores As we stay on the year, this afternoon

972
00:45:12,427 --> 00:45:16,027
Speaker 2: from the second of the double header cricket matches at Hagleyoval.

973
00:45:16,067 --> 00:45:20,987
Speaker 2: Speaking of christ Church, the Crusaders have moved to second

974
00:45:21,387 --> 00:45:24,827
Speaker 2: on the Super Rugby table with a fifty five thirty

975
00:45:24,827 --> 00:45:27,547
Speaker 2: three win over the Western Force in christ Church yesterday

976
00:45:27,587 --> 00:45:30,227
Speaker 2: on another beautiful day. They ran a nine tries to

977
00:45:30,307 --> 00:45:35,507
Speaker 2: four Winger Machas Springer scored a record equalling five of

978
00:45:35,547 --> 00:45:37,627
Speaker 2: those tries in or Well.

979
00:45:37,507 --> 00:45:40,347
Speaker 18: Jordan, he'll pen the years back. He gets it out

980
00:45:40,387 --> 00:45:44,067
Speaker 18: to Maccus Pregger and it's tends up to Marco Man

981
00:45:44,547 --> 00:45:47,667
Speaker 18: kicks through, bounce up all me interesting, goes over it

982
00:45:47,867 --> 00:45:51,187
Speaker 18: or up and rans in the lap of a Crusader

983
00:45:51,467 --> 00:45:55,547
Speaker 18: who falls over the line. It's Maccus Bragger again. Oh

984
00:45:55,627 --> 00:45:58,507
Speaker 18: kind of holds the pass for Jordan. He eventually sent

985
00:45:58,587 --> 00:46:01,987
Speaker 18: to White to Maccus Bragger and now the Creger's got

986
00:46:01,987 --> 00:46:07,227
Speaker 18: a hat trick. Jordan, lovely Harbobridge pass to Maccusrea dances

987
00:46:07,267 --> 00:46:13,627
Speaker 18: down the touch on Backer Stragger. That is his best

988
00:46:13,627 --> 00:46:16,107
Speaker 18: in the afternoon, can't three up Springer.

989
00:46:15,787 --> 00:46:16,547
Speaker 7: Who wants five?

990
00:46:16,787 --> 00:46:18,307
Speaker 6: He might get a chance at.

991
00:46:20,427 --> 00:46:21,467
Speaker 19: Mecca Spragger.

992
00:46:21,947 --> 00:46:27,347
Speaker 18: Oh wow, five are the best to young Maccus Spragger.

993
00:46:27,747 --> 00:46:29,747
Speaker 2: High excitement in the crowd and in the cold try

994
00:46:29,787 --> 00:46:32,707
Speaker 2: box too, brilliantly called by Nick Gully. There yesterday, maccas

995
00:46:32,707 --> 00:46:36,627
Speaker 2: Springer just the second man in Super rugby history to

996
00:46:36,667 --> 00:46:38,427
Speaker 2: score five tries in the game. The other was the

997
00:46:38,507 --> 00:46:41,267
Speaker 2: late Sean wan Nui, who did so for the Chiefs

998
00:46:41,307 --> 00:46:43,867
Speaker 2: against the Warra Tars back in two thousand and one.

999
00:46:44,307 --> 00:46:47,067
Speaker 2: Macca Springer is with us on weekends for congrats. Mate.

1000
00:46:47,067 --> 00:46:49,747
Speaker 2: When was the last time you scored five tries in

1001
00:46:49,787 --> 00:46:51,427
Speaker 2: one game? Was it back at school or something?

1002
00:46:52,947 --> 00:46:53,387
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1003
00:46:53,627 --> 00:46:56,227
Speaker 20: No, I never I've never scored five tries in the game,

1004
00:46:56,707 --> 00:46:59,067
Speaker 20: so the first of me, that's pretty special.

1005
00:46:59,427 --> 00:47:02,027
Speaker 2: It's well something you've given the overnight tests. Now are

1006
00:47:02,067 --> 00:47:04,627
Speaker 2: you woken up? I mean, how do you reflect on

1007
00:47:04,627 --> 00:47:06,267
Speaker 2: on what played out yesterday, not just for you but

1008
00:47:06,387 --> 00:47:07,467
Speaker 2: with the Crusaders as well.

1009
00:47:09,467 --> 00:47:12,147
Speaker 20: To be fair, I still don't really think it's through.

1010
00:47:12,187 --> 00:47:14,267
Speaker 20: I don't think it's really kicked in on you know,

1011
00:47:14,667 --> 00:47:18,147
Speaker 20: a few messages coming in, but it's very special for

1012
00:47:18,227 --> 00:47:22,147
Speaker 20: me and obviously quick from the teams did a lot

1013
00:47:22,427 --> 00:47:25,467
Speaker 20: to help me get those five, so pretty much took

1014
00:47:25,467 --> 00:47:28,467
Speaker 20: with credit to them. But yeah, it's a tough game.

1015
00:47:28,987 --> 00:47:30,827
Speaker 20: Leading in thirty three points. It's very not ideal for

1016
00:47:30,827 --> 00:47:32,947
Speaker 20: a super team. So we could feel the points, but

1017
00:47:33,027 --> 00:47:34,907
Speaker 20: we're going to be able to defend it as well.

1018
00:47:35,427 --> 00:47:37,107
Speaker 2: A couple of year tries were on the end of

1019
00:47:37,147 --> 00:47:39,867
Speaker 2: back line moves, but you also went hunting for work

1020
00:47:39,907 --> 00:47:41,787
Speaker 2: as well. I want to talk about your kick and

1021
00:47:41,827 --> 00:47:43,907
Speaker 2: chase in the moment, but the second try good evidence

1022
00:47:43,907 --> 00:47:46,267
Speaker 2: of that you like sort of you know, popping up

1023
00:47:46,307 --> 00:47:49,147
Speaker 2: in different places rather than just hanging out on the fringes.

1024
00:47:50,507 --> 00:47:52,307
Speaker 20: Yeah, I think it's a bit of a work on

1025
00:47:52,387 --> 00:47:55,107
Speaker 20: from my season last year, just getting a bit more

1026
00:47:55,107 --> 00:47:58,027
Speaker 20: involved in getting the hands on the ball. So you

1027
00:47:58,067 --> 00:47:59,787
Speaker 20: watched the news game and see how much it gets

1028
00:47:59,787 --> 00:48:02,267
Speaker 20: involved and you touched he gets chop a little bit

1029
00:48:02,307 --> 00:48:04,507
Speaker 20: out of there, and just just wanted to get as

1030
00:48:04,507 --> 00:48:06,707
Speaker 20: involved as much as I could, and I guess showed

1031
00:48:06,707 --> 00:48:07,107
Speaker 20: as well.

1032
00:48:07,467 --> 00:48:09,147
Speaker 2: And the fourth one that the kick and chase down

1033
00:48:09,147 --> 00:48:11,027
Speaker 2: the left wing side, you must have enjoyed that. I

1034
00:48:11,027 --> 00:48:14,067
Speaker 2: think you said afterwards a Tom Marshall trick from back

1035
00:48:14,067 --> 00:48:14,627
Speaker 2: in Tasman.

1036
00:48:15,827 --> 00:48:18,907
Speaker 20: Yeah, it's a Tom Marshall's special. When he started coaching,

1037
00:48:18,987 --> 00:48:21,147
Speaker 20: you told me playing it, actually told me that, so

1038
00:48:21,827 --> 00:48:22,867
Speaker 20: all credit to him for that.

1039
00:48:23,307 --> 00:48:25,347
Speaker 2: What do you what sort of pictures are you seeing

1040
00:48:25,347 --> 00:48:26,947
Speaker 2: when you you know, because you get it. I think

1041
00:48:26,947 --> 00:48:29,947
Speaker 2: on about halfway, Uh, you know what? What what is

1042
00:48:29,987 --> 00:48:31,947
Speaker 2: going through your mind in the in the split second

1043
00:48:31,947 --> 00:48:34,307
Speaker 2: that you have to make your decision about what you

1044
00:48:34,387 --> 00:48:34,867
Speaker 2: do next.

1045
00:48:36,467 --> 00:48:38,827
Speaker 20: I think it's just where the defense is, how fast

1046
00:48:38,827 --> 00:48:40,707
Speaker 20: they're coming up, and if I can get to that

1047
00:48:40,747 --> 00:48:42,347
Speaker 20: outside and put on the foot.

1048
00:48:42,107 --> 00:48:43,347
Speaker 11: Then we'll take it.

1049
00:48:43,467 --> 00:48:46,107
Speaker 20: But it's all kind of trying to do it at training.

1050
00:48:46,147 --> 00:48:48,587
Speaker 20: So it comes as an instinct when you did to.

1051
00:48:48,587 --> 00:48:51,027
Speaker 2: A game and you made on the other wing. Seev

1052
00:48:51,227 --> 00:48:53,467
Speaker 2: Reese he got a hat trick as well, now just

1053
00:48:53,507 --> 00:48:56,347
Speaker 2: one short of the all time Super Rugby tri scoring record,

1054
00:48:56,347 --> 00:48:58,987
Speaker 2: he's got sixty four. Now how much of a help

1055
00:48:59,027 --> 00:49:01,907
Speaker 2: has has he been to you as you developed your career?

1056
00:49:03,547 --> 00:49:07,107
Speaker 20: Yeah, he's a special player. Obviously got hold back to

1057
00:49:07,307 --> 00:49:10,187
Speaker 20: where they don't have been a huge part of my career.

1058
00:49:10,187 --> 00:49:13,427
Speaker 20: Obviously two years with them, learn a lot a lot

1059
00:49:14,107 --> 00:49:17,347
Speaker 20: from both of them, So now they are pretty extraordinary players.

1060
00:49:17,347 --> 00:49:21,267
Speaker 20: And to be able to rub shoulders with them every day,

1061
00:49:21,267 --> 00:49:24,187
Speaker 20: every week and even in the games was awesome. So

1062
00:49:24,347 --> 00:49:26,867
Speaker 20: you have to take a lot from them, But so

1063
00:49:27,147 --> 00:49:28,827
Speaker 20: keep picking their brains for a bit more so.

1064
00:49:28,947 --> 00:49:31,587
Speaker 2: Yeah, as you say, see a recent Will Jordan, it's

1065
00:49:31,627 --> 00:49:33,787
Speaker 2: not a bad, bad couple of players to be part

1066
00:49:33,787 --> 00:49:36,267
Speaker 2: of a back three with. Are you still able though,

1067
00:49:36,267 --> 00:49:39,347
Speaker 2: Do you feel able to contribute your voice during the

1068
00:49:39,627 --> 00:49:42,267
Speaker 2: back three conversations as a game is playing out.

1069
00:49:43,867 --> 00:49:44,627
Speaker 11: Yeah, definitely.

1070
00:49:45,067 --> 00:49:48,547
Speaker 20: They're always asking questions what I'm saying. What they're saying,

1071
00:49:48,547 --> 00:49:50,947
Speaker 20: they're telling me feedback, and I'm giving them a bit

1072
00:49:50,947 --> 00:49:53,107
Speaker 20: of feedback too, so I always feel comfortable to talk

1073
00:49:53,147 --> 00:49:54,307
Speaker 20: to them. There's a pretty thing.

1074
00:49:54,507 --> 00:49:57,307
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some pretty stuff. Competition for the outside backspots

1075
00:49:57,467 --> 00:50:00,107
Speaker 2: and the side even to get on the bench. Do

1076
00:50:00,147 --> 00:50:02,947
Speaker 2: you feel like if you've given an opportunity you really

1077
00:50:02,987 --> 00:50:04,107
Speaker 2: have to take it.

1078
00:50:05,507 --> 00:50:05,747
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1079
00:50:05,747 --> 00:50:08,987
Speaker 20: This season just definitely. Yeah, you know, she'd like to

1080
00:50:08,987 --> 00:50:11,267
Speaker 20: be around this playing in our perform and he runs

1081
00:50:11,267 --> 00:50:13,547
Speaker 20: healthy at the moment, So as soon as you get

1082
00:50:13,547 --> 00:50:16,267
Speaker 20: the opportunity to play, you've got to take the hands.

1083
00:50:16,267 --> 00:50:20,267
Speaker 20: And yeah, it's good for the team obviously, it's real healthy,

1084
00:50:20,867 --> 00:50:23,027
Speaker 20: actually pushed heart of each each game.

1085
00:50:23,107 --> 00:50:26,107
Speaker 2: So it'd be pretty hard to drop you out to

1086
00:50:26,107 --> 00:50:29,587
Speaker 2: scoring five tries on him, I imagine, But I guess

1087
00:50:29,387 --> 00:50:31,667
Speaker 2: it's just it's just one part of it. You guys

1088
00:50:31,707 --> 00:50:34,227
Speaker 2: are only your head by what twenty points to eighteen

1089
00:50:34,267 --> 00:50:36,787
Speaker 2: at halftime? Why don't you think you could quite shake

1090
00:50:36,827 --> 00:50:38,347
Speaker 2: them off in the first half.

1091
00:50:40,587 --> 00:50:43,027
Speaker 20: I think a little bit of discipline probably didn't help

1092
00:50:43,027 --> 00:50:45,387
Speaker 20: getting them and are in the field and they were

1093
00:50:45,427 --> 00:50:48,307
Speaker 20: just getting points from that. So we just had our

1094
00:50:48,307 --> 00:50:51,347
Speaker 20: discipline in our own half, but probably just a little

1095
00:50:51,347 --> 00:50:53,787
Speaker 20: bit of connection stuff as well wasn't really clicking until

1096
00:50:53,787 --> 00:50:54,507
Speaker 20: that second half.

1097
00:50:55,707 --> 00:50:58,147
Speaker 2: And if we look back to last year after Round five,

1098
00:50:58,227 --> 00:51:01,707
Speaker 2: last year the Crusaders were zero and five. Without wanting

1099
00:51:01,747 --> 00:51:03,987
Speaker 2: to dwell on that at all, what other big differences

1100
00:51:04,027 --> 00:51:04,747
Speaker 2: mac of this season?

1101
00:51:07,467 --> 00:51:10,267
Speaker 20: I think I just I think the culture has obviously

1102
00:51:10,307 --> 00:51:12,547
Speaker 20: grind last year. We've taken a lot out out of

1103
00:51:12,547 --> 00:51:16,947
Speaker 20: the season last year and you get to learn from that.

1104
00:51:16,987 --> 00:51:19,347
Speaker 20: You gotta learn quick. With the super rug vs. Every

1105
00:51:19,387 --> 00:51:22,427
Speaker 20: teams is a threat out. So you come up to

1106
00:51:22,467 --> 00:51:25,587
Speaker 20: each game and I think, yeah, you reflect on what

1107
00:51:25,707 --> 00:51:28,747
Speaker 20: happened last year. I think it's a big, big improvement

1108
00:51:28,787 --> 00:51:29,827
Speaker 20: with the boys.

1109
00:51:29,787 --> 00:51:32,347
Speaker 2: Certainly, and beudy afternoon in christ Church, how much do

1110
00:51:32,387 --> 00:51:34,867
Speaker 2: you enjoy playing with a bit of sun on your back?

1111
00:51:35,947 --> 00:51:36,947
Speaker 11: Oh it's beautiful?

1112
00:51:37,227 --> 00:51:39,107
Speaker 20: Any too hot? For christ until that point.

1113
00:51:39,747 --> 00:51:41,627
Speaker 2: Are you're from Nelson? May you be used to, wouldn't you?

1114
00:51:42,507 --> 00:51:45,067
Speaker 20: Yeah, you've been Christian's for a couple of months.

1115
00:51:45,067 --> 00:51:50,547
Speaker 2: You climatize and I mean, obviously that would have been nice.

1116
00:51:50,587 --> 00:51:53,587
Speaker 2: But the new christ Church Stadium well and truly taking shape.

1117
00:51:53,587 --> 00:51:56,107
Speaker 2: You drive down, you know, down the middle of town

1118
00:51:56,107 --> 00:51:57,827
Speaker 2: and you see it there rising up. Now have you

1119
00:51:57,867 --> 00:51:59,907
Speaker 2: thought about what it might be like to play in

1120
00:51:59,947 --> 00:52:01,307
Speaker 2: that brand new venue next year?

1121
00:52:02,827 --> 00:52:05,027
Speaker 20: Yeah, definitely had thoughts about it. It would be pretty spitch

1122
00:52:05,467 --> 00:52:09,347
Speaker 20: once it's opened to see it, and obviously a playing

1123
00:52:09,387 --> 00:52:11,707
Speaker 20: it as well. So now I'm pretty excited for that

1124
00:52:11,747 --> 00:52:13,387
Speaker 20: to open up, and I think it'd be good for

1125
00:52:14,187 --> 00:52:16,067
Speaker 20: the community and enter the team as well.

1126
00:52:16,427 --> 00:52:18,347
Speaker 2: And what happens when you score five tries? Did you

1127
00:52:18,387 --> 00:52:19,267
Speaker 2: have to shout last.

1128
00:52:19,107 --> 00:52:25,507
Speaker 20: Night going round there to shout? I think two boys

1129
00:52:25,507 --> 00:52:26,827
Speaker 20: told me I was a bit greedy as well, so

1130
00:52:27,667 --> 00:52:29,667
Speaker 20: said it be fine when I come in on Monday.

1131
00:52:29,747 --> 00:52:32,107
Speaker 20: I don't know what they will be, but I'll be

1132
00:52:32,147 --> 00:52:34,667
Speaker 20: playing something which.

1133
00:52:34,507 --> 00:52:36,427
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to think about, which try you could

1134
00:52:36,467 --> 00:52:39,347
Speaker 2: be accused of being greedy? And maybe maybe the last one,

1135
00:52:39,667 --> 00:52:40,987
Speaker 2: maybe the last one, I don't know.

1136
00:52:41,627 --> 00:52:44,747
Speaker 20: I think was Will was inside me on that when

1137
00:52:44,747 --> 00:52:46,347
Speaker 20: I did the cover down the sideline, so he wasn't

1138
00:52:46,347 --> 00:52:48,227
Speaker 20: too happy after he gave me that first one as well,

1139
00:52:48,347 --> 00:52:50,147
Speaker 20: so he plat he won one back?

1140
00:52:51,067 --> 00:52:53,067
Speaker 2: Well did I? I think? Well, he got the last one,

1141
00:52:53,067 --> 00:52:54,587
Speaker 2: didn't he? So you get to if you get to

1142
00:52:54,907 --> 00:52:57,347
Speaker 2: eight tries and Will Jordan hasn't got one, he probably

1143
00:52:57,347 --> 00:52:58,267
Speaker 2: would get a bit grumpy.

1144
00:52:58,227 --> 00:52:58,707
Speaker 11: Got image.

1145
00:53:00,827 --> 00:53:02,227
Speaker 2: Good to see him get one of the endo. He

1146
00:53:02,307 --> 00:53:03,587
Speaker 2: made hard work at at one of the end though

1147
00:53:03,587 --> 00:53:05,427
Speaker 2: didn't he was sort of crawling on his hands and

1148
00:53:05,467 --> 00:53:06,227
Speaker 2: knees to get over.

1149
00:53:07,467 --> 00:53:10,787
Speaker 20: Yeah, we did have a laugh afterwards. Found look like

1150
00:53:10,787 --> 00:53:14,707
Speaker 20: he found a bit tough to stay up find the

1151
00:53:14,747 --> 00:53:15,827
Speaker 20: way to get there he does.

1152
00:53:16,027 --> 00:53:18,027
Speaker 2: It was most Unwill Jordan like, but he did get

1153
00:53:18,067 --> 00:53:20,827
Speaker 2: his try a Mecca. Was terrific to watch last You know,

1154
00:53:20,947 --> 00:53:24,507
Speaker 2: watch yesterday, you know the outside backs running with such

1155
00:53:24,787 --> 00:53:28,147
Speaker 2: freedom and scoring tries. Mate, Well done, big big week

1156
00:53:28,147 --> 00:53:29,627
Speaker 2: this week. As you as you look forward to the

1157
00:53:29,627 --> 00:53:32,187
Speaker 2: blues of Eaton Park this coming Saturday, you'll know how

1158
00:53:32,187 --> 00:53:33,507
Speaker 2: to get back on the tools on Monday.

1159
00:53:34,787 --> 00:53:38,627
Speaker 20: Yeah, definitely back to the new week. Was he bluest

1160
00:53:38,827 --> 00:53:41,387
Speaker 20: bit of hate watching the game last monthing to get

1161
00:53:41,427 --> 00:53:43,667
Speaker 20: to chase a pretty tight game, so they'll they'll be

1162
00:53:43,667 --> 00:53:44,227
Speaker 20: ready to go.

1163
00:53:44,867 --> 00:53:46,827
Speaker 2: Congrats again, Mecca, thanks for taking the time for a

1164
00:53:46,907 --> 00:53:49,267
Speaker 2: chat mate, No, thank you very much, thanks Macca. Macha

1165
00:53:49,307 --> 00:53:53,747
Speaker 2: Springer there scorer or five tries yesterday. That's rough being

1166
00:53:53,787 --> 00:53:57,787
Speaker 2: told he was greedy. I guess the fifth try, yeah,

1167
00:53:57,787 --> 00:53:59,027
Speaker 2: perhaps he could have passed it.

1168
00:53:59,067 --> 00:53:59,507
Speaker 21: I don't know.

1169
00:53:59,987 --> 00:54:02,907
Speaker 2: Will Jordan gave him the first one, didn't he. If

1170
00:54:02,907 --> 00:54:05,107
Speaker 2: you seen these tries, there's a line up out to

1171
00:54:05,147 --> 00:54:08,187
Speaker 2: the left and Will Jordan probably could have gone in

1172
00:54:08,267 --> 00:54:11,147
Speaker 2: himself at one more passkas macis Spring of the try,

1173
00:54:11,147 --> 00:54:13,107
Speaker 2: he probably thought, well, I'll give the young killy chance.

1174
00:54:13,427 --> 00:54:15,827
Speaker 2: It was his first game of the season. Two Mackispring

1175
00:54:15,867 --> 00:54:19,987
Speaker 2: hasn't played up until yesterday. Five tries in one game.

1176
00:54:20,027 --> 00:54:23,307
Speaker 2: Talk about seizing your opportunities. Ian Will Jordan right at

1177
00:54:23,307 --> 00:54:26,827
Speaker 2: the end just getting a try was kind of ankle tapped,

1178
00:54:26,827 --> 00:54:30,347
Speaker 2: got up, went again, crawled towards the line, reach out, scored,

1179
00:54:30,347 --> 00:54:33,827
Speaker 2: He almost scored his try and installments really in slow motion.

1180
00:54:34,427 --> 00:54:38,467
Speaker 2: So Crusaders fans, are you back? Are you back? I

1181
00:54:38,507 --> 00:54:41,587
Speaker 2: look at the table, Chiefs are on top. They've played

1182
00:54:41,587 --> 00:54:45,547
Speaker 2: five games eighteen points. We'll get to Chiefs Country in

1183
00:54:45,587 --> 00:54:49,427
Speaker 2: the next little while. Actually, Crusader second on fourteen, same

1184
00:54:49,507 --> 00:54:52,027
Speaker 2: number of points as the Reds and the Brumbies, so

1185
00:54:52,147 --> 00:54:56,987
Speaker 2: three teams there on fourteen points and then it's back

1186
00:54:56,987 --> 00:55:00,947
Speaker 2: to the Highlanders on Sorry warretas thirteen Highlanders ten are

1187
00:55:01,947 --> 00:55:05,387
Speaker 2: those are the top six at the moment. So are

1188
00:55:05,427 --> 00:55:09,067
Speaker 2: you back Crusaders fans? Are you willing to say that

1189
00:55:09,187 --> 00:55:13,627
Speaker 2: last year was just a bad dream? Graham? Are you back.

1190
00:55:15,067 --> 00:55:15,267
Speaker 7: Well?

1191
00:55:15,307 --> 00:55:18,707
Speaker 22: I think I think we are because we're we're back

1192
00:55:18,707 --> 00:55:22,947
Speaker 22: in the hunt. We've got three wins out of four. Yeah,

1193
00:55:22,987 --> 00:55:25,347
Speaker 22: and we've got players back. You know, Macca was there

1194
00:55:25,467 --> 00:55:27,947
Speaker 22: last year and played was one of the better ones.

1195
00:55:28,147 --> 00:55:31,187
Speaker 22: Great interview by the way, but yeah, the personnel that

1196
00:55:32,187 --> 00:55:35,147
Speaker 22: Barrett eastan blackad even though Eathan didn't play yesterday, he's

1197
00:55:35,187 --> 00:55:38,147
Speaker 22: been playing the other games and you got well Jordan

1198
00:55:38,227 --> 00:55:40,587
Speaker 22: Braden in all that back. I mean I was at

1199
00:55:40,667 --> 00:55:44,227
Speaker 22: the last two home games against the Reds and against

1200
00:55:44,267 --> 00:55:47,387
Speaker 22: yesterday against the Western Fourth. I mean, day rugby on

1201
00:55:47,427 --> 00:55:50,707
Speaker 22: a nice day, Jason, I mean it's just perfect. I

1202
00:55:50,707 --> 00:55:52,987
Speaker 22: mean your team's playing well. I mean the first half

1203
00:55:53,107 --> 00:55:56,547
Speaker 22: was a bit rough, but that second half was just

1204
00:55:57,587 --> 00:56:01,507
Speaker 22: it was you know, it was a real clinic.

1205
00:56:01,667 --> 00:56:04,067
Speaker 2: It looked awesome, It looked awesome on TV. Graham, I

1206
00:56:04,107 --> 00:56:06,507
Speaker 2: have to say it was. He's just a beautiful day,

1207
00:56:06,787 --> 00:56:09,267
Speaker 2: you know, ironically enough, you know from next year you'll

1208
00:56:09,267 --> 00:56:11,587
Speaker 2: be under a roof, won't you. But but you know,

1209
00:56:11,707 --> 00:56:14,107
Speaker 2: on a day like that, it just goes to show,

1210
00:56:14,387 --> 00:56:17,707
Speaker 2: you know what what day rugby can be. And yeah,

1211
00:56:17,747 --> 00:56:20,227
Speaker 2: it's just great to see them running so freely. Nine

1212
00:56:20,267 --> 00:56:23,267
Speaker 2: tries all to the outside backs. None of this, none

1213
00:56:23,307 --> 00:56:26,227
Speaker 2: of this forward scoring tries rubbish, Graham.

1214
00:56:26,667 --> 00:56:29,987
Speaker 22: The days of I mean, this isn't Jason Ryan. Remember

1215
00:56:29,987 --> 00:56:32,307
Speaker 22: we were known for these, the line out drives. And

1216
00:56:32,347 --> 00:56:34,227
Speaker 22: I mean Jason was an expert at he was like

1217
00:56:34,227 --> 00:56:37,907
Speaker 22: a tank commander really but I mean they've still got

1218
00:56:38,307 --> 00:56:40,467
Speaker 22: players that can do that, but they you know, the

1219
00:56:40,507 --> 00:56:43,147
Speaker 22: game's changed a lot, and the referees is I think

1220
00:56:43,187 --> 00:56:45,867
Speaker 22: we talked about it after round one. You know, there's

1221
00:56:45,427 --> 00:56:48,787
Speaker 22: there's been a real sea change. And my personal highlight

1222
00:56:48,827 --> 00:56:51,907
Speaker 22: was Will Jordan's tries to say, because see he is

1223
00:56:52,027 --> 00:56:56,627
Speaker 22: just so good, I thought that I thought he you know, stopped,

1224
00:56:56,627 --> 00:56:59,187
Speaker 22: but then as you say, it was like installments.

1225
00:56:59,587 --> 00:57:01,427
Speaker 2: I just think, you know, you think back to last

1226
00:57:01,507 --> 00:57:03,227
Speaker 2: year and there were a lot of players who weren't there.

1227
00:57:03,267 --> 00:57:06,587
Speaker 2: But he just makes such a massive different stuff. He

1228
00:57:06,747 --> 00:57:08,987
Speaker 2: will Jordan. He wasn't there at all that season, was he? Graham?

1229
00:57:09,027 --> 00:57:10,467
Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong, But I don't think he

1230
00:57:10,467 --> 00:57:13,747
Speaker 2: played a single game, Wasn't He was good? He was

1231
00:57:13,787 --> 00:57:16,547
Speaker 2: good too, wasn't he? He's another one. He's well, he's

1232
00:57:16,587 --> 00:57:18,667
Speaker 2: been so unlucky with injuries, says Now. I remember when

1233
00:57:18,667 --> 00:57:20,747
Speaker 2: Brandon in Or first came onto the scene. You'll remember this.

1234
00:57:21,107 --> 00:57:22,667
Speaker 2: They were talking about him as being a seven or

1235
00:57:22,707 --> 00:57:24,627
Speaker 2: eighty test all black. You know that won't happen now.

1236
00:57:24,667 --> 00:57:28,147
Speaker 2: But yeah, he's clearly still a very very handy footballer.

1237
00:57:29,147 --> 00:57:31,907
Speaker 22: Yeah, and I mean yeah, he's brought real pace to

1238
00:57:31,947 --> 00:57:35,827
Speaker 22: that midfield, which we struggled a bit in that area

1239
00:57:35,947 --> 00:57:39,467
Speaker 22: last year. And the Yeah, it's fantastic for him because

1240
00:57:39,467 --> 00:57:42,907
Speaker 22: I mean training all the time and not playing. I mean,

1241
00:57:43,707 --> 00:57:45,267
Speaker 22: you know he's back, you know, he's back on the

1242
00:57:45,307 --> 00:57:47,747
Speaker 22: grass and put it in eighty minutes and I was

1243
00:57:47,867 --> 00:57:50,507
Speaker 22: very very happy for him. He looked very happy after

1244
00:57:50,547 --> 00:57:52,547
Speaker 22: the game, that's for sure, and so he should.

1245
00:57:52,827 --> 00:57:54,387
Speaker 2: Do you think you can go to Eden Park and

1246
00:57:54,427 --> 00:57:56,107
Speaker 2: beat the Blues though, Graham.

1247
00:57:56,507 --> 00:57:58,427
Speaker 22: It'd be tough, but I think we can. Yeah. I

1248
00:57:58,467 --> 00:58:01,627
Speaker 22: mean the Blues nearly toppled the Chiefs and that has

1249
00:58:01,667 --> 00:58:05,027
Speaker 22: to be said. So yeah, there won't be any complacency

1250
00:58:05,147 --> 00:58:09,187
Speaker 22: that you know, I assure you well, you'd know that

1251
00:58:09,187 --> 00:58:11,627
Speaker 22: they're not going to just go a one. No, no,

1252
00:58:12,067 --> 00:58:13,707
Speaker 22: I mean I do think we can though, yeah.

1253
00:58:13,747 --> 00:58:16,307
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well you look at the ordinarily, Graham. If you

1254
00:58:16,387 --> 00:58:18,667
Speaker 2: up against a team that's one and four, you know,

1255
00:58:18,787 --> 00:58:21,707
Speaker 2: and you you yourselves are three wins, one lost, You's okay,

1256
00:58:21,707 --> 00:58:24,147
Speaker 2: we're going to be favorites. But yeah, you you know

1257
00:58:24,227 --> 00:58:25,707
Speaker 2: as well as I do that a trip to Eden

1258
00:58:25,747 --> 00:58:28,667
Speaker 2: Park is never easy for any rugby team, particularly when

1259
00:58:28,707 --> 00:58:31,307
Speaker 2: it's the Crusaders. So Crusaders Blues. Yeah, looking forward to

1260
00:58:31,347 --> 00:58:33,707
Speaker 2: that one already on Saturday night, Graham, good to chat

1261
00:58:33,707 --> 00:58:34,827
Speaker 2: to your mate. I knew you were going to be

1262
00:58:34,827 --> 00:58:37,307
Speaker 2: there yesterday. I would have been there yesterday, so good

1263
00:58:37,347 --> 00:58:39,467
Speaker 2: to good to hear that you've enjoyed yourself on the

1264
00:58:39,507 --> 00:58:41,587
Speaker 2: sunshine with all of those tries to the outside backs

1265
00:58:41,587 --> 00:58:44,867
Speaker 2: as well. One twenty four News Talk sad B lines

1266
00:58:44,907 --> 00:58:46,787
Speaker 2: are open to talk Super Rugby. On eight hundred and

1267
00:58:46,867 --> 00:58:48,907
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. We'll get you to Chiefs Country in

1268
00:58:48,947 --> 00:58:52,027
Speaker 2: the next little while. Actually, with Graham Minty Mead who

1269
00:58:52,107 --> 00:58:56,107
Speaker 2: called the game last night, it was another cracker you

1270
00:58:56,187 --> 00:58:57,747
Speaker 2: got to say, I mean super rugby. I know we

1271
00:58:57,787 --> 00:59:02,787
Speaker 2: say it week after week, but again some tremendous games

1272
00:59:03,347 --> 00:59:06,227
Speaker 2: Friday night. We talked about this yesterday. The Hurricanes just

1273
00:59:06,507 --> 00:59:09,987
Speaker 2: there against the Highlanders in a titanic clash. The other

1274
00:59:10,107 --> 00:59:13,947
Speaker 2: Derby New Zealand Derby thirty two thirty one, the Chiefs

1275
00:59:13,947 --> 00:59:16,467
Speaker 2: over the Blues. I didn't watch the Reds Warritars game

1276
00:59:16,547 --> 00:59:17,987
Speaker 2: last night. I wake up this morning and saw that

1277
00:59:18,027 --> 00:59:22,147
Speaker 2: score and it surprised me because war Retars were, you know,

1278
00:59:22,187 --> 00:59:25,747
Speaker 2: three from three. They were the only gun beatenside going

1279
00:59:25,787 --> 00:59:28,987
Speaker 2: into the weekend. But we're well by the looks of

1280
00:59:29,027 --> 00:59:31,147
Speaker 2: it anyway on the scoreboard, given a bit of a

1281
00:59:31,347 --> 00:59:35,467
Speaker 2: dealing to by the Reds. So yeah, again upsets the

1282
00:59:35,507 --> 00:59:39,947
Speaker 2: Fiji and Drewer couldn't get anything in Canberra, and yeah

1283
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Speaker 2: that's at five games. So again a terrific weekend of

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00:59:44,227 --> 00:59:46,507
Speaker 2: super rugby, with hopefully much more to come. We'll talk

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00:59:46,547 --> 00:59:48,307
Speaker 2: some Chiefs in a moment. If you'd like to add

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00:59:48,307 --> 00:59:51,867
Speaker 2: your two cents from any of the Super Rugby franchises.

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is our number nine

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Speaker 2: two nine two on text from Back in a Moment.

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Speaker 1: The biggest things in sports are on Weekend Sports with

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Speaker 1: Jason Pain and GJ. Gunnomes, New Zealand's most trusted home

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Speaker 1: builder News Talks.

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Speaker 2: They'd be news talks every one. Twenty eight. The table

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Speaker 2: topping Chiefs have hung on for a thirty two to

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01:00:10,827 --> 01:00:14,107
Speaker 2: thirty one win over the Blues in Hamilton, making it

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01:00:14,107 --> 01:00:17,307
Speaker 2: two from two over the defending Super Rugby champions.

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Speaker 23: Curling it back, curling it back, passing off was up

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01:00:20,627 --> 01:00:25,267
Speaker 23: the postman, missus, Oh, he did everything right and hits

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Speaker 23: the post and bounces back into the field to play

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Speaker 23: Watima has it.

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Speaker 6: There's the whistle, there's the thing.

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Speaker 23: Radham is going to do one thing with us into

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Speaker 23: this than that goes and it's going to be the

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Speaker 23: takes thirty two points, Blue thirty one points. What a

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Speaker 23: game of rugby here.

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Speaker 2: In Hamilton, What a game of rugby? And d That

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Speaker 2: is the voice of Graham Minty Mead who calls Chiefs

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Speaker 2: games for us on gold Sport and iHeartRadio. Were you

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Speaker 2: willing that last conversion hit the Postminte were.

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Speaker 24: You by that time? Piney? I had no idea what

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Speaker 24: was going to happen. Numb. It was one of those

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01:00:58,387 --> 01:01:01,227
Speaker 24: games you just sat back in war and thought, what's

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Speaker 24: just gone on? It was nearly four minutes before the

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Speaker 24: first stoppage after the kickoff and it didn't stop. Intense

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Speaker 24: footy and wow, I want to win for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 24: But how good were the Blues too?

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Speaker 2: They were? They were very good and it was like

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Speaker 2: on the table it was top the bottom pretty much.

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Speaker 2: But it certainly didn't look like that and it was

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Speaker 2: never going to be when the Chiefs play the Blues.

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Speaker 2: I mean they're defending champions. Do you think, you know,

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Speaker 2: having given up the overnight test and on the across

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Speaker 2: the eighty odd minutes, do you think the Chiefs deserve

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Speaker 2: to win?

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Speaker 24: Well? I think that rugby was so intense. There are

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Speaker 24: lots of mistakes. There were lots of errors we got.

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Speaker 24: The Chiefs got a couple of lucky tries that McKenzie

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Speaker 24: won where the ball went behind him and both to

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Speaker 24: Ali and Joanne ran past him and he grabbed the

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Speaker 24: ball and dipped around and scored. That was a fortunate try.

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Speaker 24: It wasn't anything too flash, but some of the crossfield

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Speaker 24: kicking to the wingers there was some special rugby in

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Speaker 24: that Piney and I just thought I've never come away

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Speaker 24: from a game so probably naked it was. Gordy was

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Speaker 24: the same, David Fox. They said that it was just

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Speaker 24: incredible game of footy and whoever one I deserved it.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the Blues have what it takes to

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Speaker 2: get out of this sort of slump that they are in.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're defending champions after all, but you look

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Speaker 2: at the table played five, one, one, last four. Do

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Speaker 2: you think they're still a top six side?

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Speaker 24: Well they should be, Let's just be honest. They lost

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Speaker 24: doing a FARSI and Caleb Clark just before kickoff last night,

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Speaker 24: and the Chiefs like Anton Lennart Brown and I think

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Speaker 24: that made a bit of difference to their prep. But man,

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Speaker 24: they've got some talent out there, young cam Christie. This

1346
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Speaker 24: number six, the North Harbor Locke's playing on the flank.

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Speaker 24: I think he was dynamic last night for a twenty

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Speaker 24: year old. And they've got the gears that just needs

1349
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Speaker 24: to click and I'm not sure what's causing it not

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Speaker 24: to click. But if we're going to get rugby like

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Speaker 24: that every week. I'm all for that.

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Speaker 2: Look, yeah, I think, look they'll they'll be fine. I

1353
01:02:54,947 --> 01:02:56,947
Speaker 2: really believe they'll be fine. And they've had a pretty

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Speaker 2: tough start of it, the Chiefs twice for a start.

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Speaker 2: But as I say, Crusaders next week. But just on

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs, Damie McKenzie obviously stands out and when he plays,

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Speaker 2: they look a different outfit. But who else caught your

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01:03:12,267 --> 01:03:13,907
Speaker 2: eye in a Chief's jersey last night?

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Speaker 24: Well you took of Damien McKenzie. I'm but worried about

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Speaker 24: the kicking that's going on, and see for Raby this time.

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Speaker 24: It seems to be affecting them all. The kicking's not

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Speaker 24: good from anyone. But I still look at Quincy Pie,

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Speaker 24: the guy was he was working around the rucks and

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Speaker 24: mauls at second five. He's reinvented himself since that bad

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Speaker 24: injury he's got. He's just aggressive and solid in that

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Speaker 24: second five. And probably you look down at and they

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Speaker 24: go Jerome Brown as in Anne McAllister from the Crusaders

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Speaker 24: and Jerome Brown II. If they are not the two

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Speaker 24: best buyers of the season, the Chiefs have picked up.

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Speaker 24: I go he they have really just slotted into this

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Speaker 24: the side and made the places their own.

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Speaker 2: I think there was probably a bit of not concerned,

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Speaker 2: maybe mild concern that Wallace Atzi wasn't going to be

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Speaker 2: there for you this season, given what a huge impact

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Speaker 2: he had last season. But you're right, Manti, you know

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Speaker 2: you lose forwards. They've hardly skipped a beat ow they

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Speaker 2: even off the bench. When a guy like you know,

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Speaker 2: some a penny female comes off the bench and makes

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Speaker 2: a massive difference, the loose forward cohort would probably be

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Speaker 2: the envy I think of most of the other teams.

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Speaker 24: Well, I think you're right. When Wallis a Cedi opted

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Speaker 24: out for the season with the injury, we thought, who's

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Speaker 24: going to replace this kid? Because he is he's a freak,

1384
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Speaker 24: He's there's something absolutely special about him. And suddenly upsteps

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Speaker 24: Simon Parker. Luke Jacobson steps up. We've got Jerome Brown

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Speaker 24: come in, We've got Sammo penny Fee now and the

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Speaker 24: list just goes on and these guys are really playing well.

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Speaker 24: And Xavier Row spoke to me yesterday morning. He said

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Speaker 24: it's just he said, it's lovely to have the protection

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Speaker 24: he's got from the forwards as a halfback and you

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Speaker 24: don't hear that very often, so they have stepped up.

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Speaker 24: I think that's the bones of it. And Tupu Vai

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Speaker 24: he's been part captain this year. He's gone another leg

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Speaker 24: mans he's strong and playing good rugby. He's becoming to

1395
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Speaker 24: Brady Rettalick. He's now starting to get that maturity and

1396
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Speaker 24: he's just getting better and better.

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Speaker 2: How do you think these Chiefs guys are handling it

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01:05:02,627 --> 01:05:07,027
Speaker 2: with Clayton McMillan, clearly, you know, using players and different roles.

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Speaker 2: You talked about summer Penny Feenwe, Xaviero started Courtiz Latimer

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Speaker 2: probably has a very good case to start rugby matches

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01:05:14,347 --> 01:05:16,387
Speaker 2: given the fact that he's an All Black and Xavier

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01:05:16,467 --> 01:05:19,187
Speaker 2: Roh is not. I look at Summersuni Talkio he's come

1403
01:05:19,267 --> 01:05:21,507
Speaker 2: back and but he's starting off the bench. How do

1404
01:05:21,507 --> 01:05:23,307
Speaker 2: you think these players are dealing with the fact that

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01:05:23,627 --> 01:05:26,587
Speaker 2: Clayton McMillan doesn't mind mixing and matching his starting fifteen

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01:05:26,627 --> 01:05:27,347
Speaker 2: with his reserves.

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Speaker 24: Well, we talked to him. Clayton's got a plan and

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01:05:30,987 --> 01:05:33,507
Speaker 24: he's got a plan that involves the whole name squad

1409
01:05:33,987 --> 01:05:36,667
Speaker 24: and they've got specific jobs and he's finding at the moment,

1410
01:05:36,747 --> 01:05:39,947
Speaker 24: Ratham are and deep Female and Tuck Ajo coming off

1411
01:05:39,987 --> 01:05:42,107
Speaker 24: the bench or a bit like a small version of

1412
01:05:42,147 --> 01:05:45,187
Speaker 24: the South African bomb Squad, and they're coming in and

1413
01:05:45,227 --> 01:05:48,587
Speaker 24: making a different type of play which is enabling enabling

1414
01:05:48,627 --> 01:05:51,027
Speaker 24: the Chiefs to do some different things. And we'll see

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Speaker 24: Radamill probably start next week. We'll see sammer Penny get

1416
01:05:53,587 --> 01:05:56,867
Speaker 24: their start shortly. But they've got a really solid player

1417
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Speaker 24: Roger Randall, Clayton McMillan, David Hill. They've got a super

1418
01:06:00,867 --> 01:06:03,387
Speaker 24: plan for the year of how they want to inject

1419
01:06:03,387 --> 01:06:06,307
Speaker 24: their players into games against different opposition. It's quite cool.

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01:06:06,667 --> 01:06:08,947
Speaker 2: I was going to say that next week they he

1421
01:06:09,067 --> 01:06:11,787
Speaker 2: might look at resting a couple of guys against Mona Pacifica,

1422
01:06:11,867 --> 01:06:15,067
Speaker 2: but you probably can't do that now given the way

1423
01:06:15,107 --> 01:06:18,187
Speaker 2: Morea Pacifica played against the Hurricanes. What was that last weekends?

1424
01:06:18,907 --> 01:06:20,747
Speaker 2: And there is the buy to follow. So do you

1425
01:06:20,747 --> 01:06:22,907
Speaker 2: get the feeling that Clayton will just just go with

1426
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Speaker 2: the big guns again against Mona Pacifica on Friday night?

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Speaker 24: I think so. I did the game pre season up

1428
01:06:28,467 --> 01:06:31,707
Speaker 24: at pul k Winer Pacifica and the Chiefs and that

1429
01:06:31,827 --> 01:06:34,067
Speaker 24: minor Pacific side is a hell of a good side,

1430
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Speaker 24: lots of talent. I don't think Clayton will rest too many.

1431
01:06:37,147 --> 01:06:40,787
Speaker 24: He might have some bay injury alone. But they're about

1432
01:06:40,787 --> 01:06:43,107
Speaker 24: winning a competition and I think if you start playing

1433
01:06:43,267 --> 01:06:45,907
Speaker 24: the resting game and stretching it back down too much,

1434
01:06:45,907 --> 01:06:47,427
Speaker 24: it can come round and bite you in the back

1435
01:06:47,427 --> 01:06:48,267
Speaker 24: side pretty quickly.

1436
01:06:48,707 --> 01:06:50,787
Speaker 2: All right, Just to finish Mintea, the Chiefs have been

1437
01:06:50,907 --> 01:06:52,867
Speaker 2: you know well, I think they were the best side

1438
01:06:52,867 --> 01:06:54,827
Speaker 2: two years ago. I think they were close to the

1439
01:06:54,867 --> 01:06:58,107
Speaker 2: best side. Last year. They made the Grand Final both times,

1440
01:06:58,187 --> 01:07:01,387
Speaker 2: beaten both times. Is this going to be third time lucky?

1441
01:07:01,427 --> 01:07:07,027
Speaker 2: As a farewell gift to Clayton McMillan, dance.

1442
01:07:06,907 --> 01:07:10,587
Speaker 24: Down on the ground that incriminate, But I'm certainly hoping. So,

1443
01:07:11,107 --> 01:07:13,387
Speaker 24: I am most certainly hoping so, Biney.

1444
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Speaker 2: And actually, just before you go, do you have a

1445
01:07:17,547 --> 01:07:21,147
Speaker 2: prediction for the for the Carabeur Cup, the League Cup

1446
01:07:21,187 --> 01:07:24,507
Speaker 2: final tomorrow morning between a side that I know you follow,

1447
01:07:24,787 --> 01:07:28,107
Speaker 2: Newcastle United and aside that I follow Liverpool. And again,

1448
01:07:28,187 --> 01:07:30,027
Speaker 2: you don't have to answer if you think it's going

1449
01:07:30,067 --> 01:07:31,227
Speaker 2: to incriminate.

1450
01:07:30,747 --> 01:07:34,987
Speaker 24: You turn two wonderful magpies. That's our year. We're having

1451
01:07:34,987 --> 01:07:36,827
Speaker 24: a cup. Your follows have got too much going on

1452
01:07:36,867 --> 01:07:38,867
Speaker 24: in your place at the moment. We need to win

1453
01:07:38,987 --> 01:07:41,307
Speaker 24: and you should bring England and say just let them

1454
01:07:41,307 --> 01:07:42,867
Speaker 24: win one, just to make them feel better.

1455
01:07:43,067 --> 01:07:44,827
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I've got the power, Graham, but I'll

1456
01:07:44,867 --> 01:07:49,667
Speaker 2: be watching as I know all the power. A great

1457
01:07:49,707 --> 01:07:52,347
Speaker 2: call again last night, Minty. Thanks thanks for chatting to us.

1458
01:07:52,347 --> 01:07:52,507
Speaker 7: Mate.

1459
01:07:52,507 --> 01:07:53,427
Speaker 2: We'll catch up again soon.

1460
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Speaker 24: Yeah, have a safe week party and Cheersay for the.

1461
01:07:56,267 --> 01:07:59,627
Speaker 2: Call for the best, Graham me Minty to everybody our

1462
01:07:59,667 --> 01:08:02,507
Speaker 2: caller for Chiefs games, and again on the mic last

1463
01:08:02,587 --> 01:08:04,707
Speaker 2: night with Steve Gordon former All Black alongside. They do

1464
01:08:04,747 --> 01:08:07,187
Speaker 2: a great job for us. Next for the Chiefs. More

1465
01:08:07,187 --> 01:08:09,787
Speaker 2: on a Pacifica on Friday night that starts round six.

1466
01:08:10,187 --> 01:08:12,307
Speaker 2: More on a Pacifica coming off the buye this weekend

1467
01:08:12,867 --> 01:08:15,787
Speaker 2: and I'm sure still high on confidence after their went

1468
01:08:15,827 --> 01:08:19,587
Speaker 2: over the Hurricanes last weekend. Looking ahead to the other

1469
01:08:19,627 --> 01:08:22,307
Speaker 2: games in round six of Super Rugby. So I see

1470
01:08:22,347 --> 01:08:25,267
Speaker 2: a Friday night mighta Pacific Chiefs Saturday, the Highlanders welcome

1471
01:08:25,347 --> 01:08:28,587
Speaker 2: the Reds to Dunedin. Four thirty five Blues Crusaders. What

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Speaker 2: a contest that is said to be five past seven

1473
01:08:31,747 --> 01:08:34,387
Speaker 2: Eden Park Saturday, night than the Warra Tares against the

1474
01:08:34,387 --> 01:08:39,747
Speaker 2: Brumbies in Sydney and on Sunday night a rare Sunday night.

1475
01:08:40,067 --> 01:08:42,547
Speaker 2: Well it'll week in the afternoon in Western Australia the

1476
01:08:42,627 --> 01:08:46,627
Speaker 2: Force against the Fijian Drewer in Perth. Five past seven

1477
01:08:46,667 --> 01:08:50,267
Speaker 2: on Sunday night is scheduled kickoff time for that one

1478
01:08:50,267 --> 01:08:53,587
Speaker 2: that's next Sunday. So a week tonight on text from

1479
01:08:53,667 --> 01:08:55,867
Speaker 2: Dave and Queenstown, Jason against me to start because I

1480
01:08:55,907 --> 01:08:57,947
Speaker 2: was over super Ragby. But how good is it to

1481
01:08:58,027 --> 01:09:00,907
Speaker 2: have more competitive games every week? I think the rule

1482
01:09:00,987 --> 01:09:03,907
Speaker 2: changes to speed things up is obviously helping. It's a

1483
01:09:03,987 --> 01:09:05,987
Speaker 2: much better watch. It's looking like the Blues are having

1484
01:09:05,987 --> 01:09:09,347
Speaker 2: the issue with injuries the Crusaders had last season, so

1485
01:09:09,827 --> 01:09:12,587
Speaker 2: as a Crusaders fan, I'm loving that. I'm pretty confident

1486
01:09:12,587 --> 01:09:14,347
Speaker 2: that the Crusaders may need to make some room in

1487
01:09:14,347 --> 01:09:18,107
Speaker 2: their trophy cabinet for another one. Luckily, the Blues probably

1488
01:09:18,227 --> 01:09:20,947
Speaker 2: have plenty of room in their cabinet anyway to fit

1489
01:09:20,987 --> 01:09:25,707
Speaker 2: in their big wooden spoon cheapus Dave, shots fired from Queenstown,

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Speaker 2: where I know you are tupor vai for all Blacks.

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Speaker 2: Number seven is this one? He's got all the ball skills,

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01:09:32,187 --> 01:09:35,147
Speaker 2: power and pace and finally has the blood and guts

1493
01:09:35,187 --> 01:09:40,547
Speaker 2: to smash them. Bro a two meter seven in Tupor Vai. Lookout,

1494
01:09:41,787 --> 01:09:43,307
Speaker 2: I think he is going to play in the loose forwards.

1495
01:09:43,307 --> 01:09:46,307
Speaker 2: It'll be at six, wouldn't it. I don't know. Look

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01:09:46,907 --> 01:09:49,667
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. It wouldn't be a huge shock to see

1497
01:09:49,667 --> 01:09:52,227
Speaker 2: Tupor Vai in the loose forward. I just think it

1498
01:09:52,267 --> 01:09:55,227
Speaker 2: would be more likely at six than at seven. But

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Speaker 2: I appreciate the text. With updated Live Sport. In terms

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Speaker 2: of the White Ferns, they have beaten Sri Lanka by

1501
01:10:01,667 --> 01:10:05,307
Speaker 2: seven wickets in the second of their T twenty Internationals.

1502
01:10:06,627 --> 01:10:09,827
Speaker 2: Looking at plunket chill cricket, there's a really intriguing game

1503
01:10:09,907 --> 01:10:13,867
Speaker 2: going on in a lungey order. The Wellington Firebirds scored

1504
01:10:13,907 --> 01:10:17,627
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty batting first, then bowld Canterbury out

1505
01:10:17,627 --> 01:10:21,347
Speaker 2: for sixty eight. They didn't enforce the follow on. They

1506
01:10:21,387 --> 01:10:24,667
Speaker 2: batted again and were all out for two hundred and twenty,

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01:10:25,227 --> 01:10:28,787
Speaker 2: so that left Canterbury five hundred and three to win.

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01:10:29,387 --> 01:10:32,827
Speaker 2: With plenty of time five hundred and three, they are

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01:10:32,907 --> 01:10:36,667
Speaker 2: three hundred and eighty eight for five at the moment,

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01:10:37,387 --> 01:10:41,907
Speaker 2: so they're on track and Henry Nichols are still out

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01:10:41,947 --> 01:10:46,027
Speaker 2: there unbeaten on one hundred and twenty nine. Chad Bows

1512
01:10:46,027 --> 01:10:47,427
Speaker 2: has already scored one hundred. He was out for one

1513
01:10:47,507 --> 01:10:51,027
Speaker 2: hundred and fourteen or eighty five balls yesterday, so clearly

1514
01:10:51,027 --> 01:10:55,147
Speaker 2: not messing around. Comma Cooncu made eighty nine but Canterbury

1515
01:10:55,867 --> 01:10:59,427
Speaker 2: three eighty eight for five chasing five hundred and three,

1516
01:10:59,467 --> 01:11:01,347
Speaker 2: so the only nine of one hundred and fifteen runs.

1517
01:11:01,387 --> 01:11:06,187
Speaker 2: They've got plenty of overs, still sixty overs left, so

1518
01:11:06,507 --> 01:11:08,907
Speaker 2: that is a very intriguing game playing out in the

1519
01:11:08,947 --> 01:11:12,707
Speaker 2: lungey order. At Eton Parks out of Oval, Auckland in

1520
01:11:12,747 --> 01:11:14,987
Speaker 2: their second innings are two hundred and thirty six for six,

1521
01:11:15,027 --> 01:11:18,467
Speaker 2: so they may three twenty nine Northern four point fifty five,

1522
01:11:18,707 --> 01:11:20,747
Speaker 2: Auckland two thirty six for six, so that one's headed

1523
01:11:20,787 --> 01:11:27,227
Speaker 2: for a draw. And in Alexandra Otago three hundred and

1524
01:11:27,347 --> 01:11:30,387
Speaker 2: ninety for seven declared and two thirty four for nine declared.

1525
01:11:30,987 --> 01:11:34,267
Speaker 2: Central Stags three hundred for six and seventy six for three,

1526
01:11:34,747 --> 01:11:36,987
Speaker 2: so they need another two hundred and forty nine runs

1527
01:11:37,067 --> 01:11:40,307
Speaker 2: and Otaga need another seven wickets to win that one.

1528
01:11:40,347 --> 01:11:43,867
Speaker 2: In Alexandra twenty to two. Let's take a break when

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01:11:43,907 --> 01:11:47,827
Speaker 2: we come back our Sunday afternoon staple James mcconey joining

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Speaker 2: us on weekend sport.

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Speaker 2: Crowd goes wild, alternative comment, recollective, various other media platforms

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Speaker 2: and other things too that you know don't need to

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Speaker 2: be discussed here. Hello James, Hi, how.

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Speaker 11: Are you pony? Yeah, good to be here. Plenty of platforms, mate,

1540
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Speaker 11: it's what you need, absolutely way reinforced ones.

1541
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Speaker 2: Well I always say they can't all fire you at once.

1542
01:12:24,747 --> 01:12:27,307
Speaker 2: So if you if you have plenty of plenty of

1543
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Speaker 2: income streams. I think it's good.

1544
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Speaker 7: Hi.

1545
01:12:29,987 --> 01:12:30,947
Speaker 2: The Warriors are back.

1546
01:12:32,587 --> 01:12:35,227
Speaker 11: Oh our back baby, and I gave them no chance

1547
01:12:35,267 --> 01:12:37,987
Speaker 11: of beating manly. But this is the whole thing with

1548
01:12:38,027 --> 01:12:40,427
Speaker 11: those teams that seems stacked. But then you look at

1549
01:12:40,507 --> 01:12:43,507
Speaker 11: manly and there's you know, Tom Javoievitch has always been

1550
01:12:43,547 --> 01:12:45,907
Speaker 11: in jury prone. Daily Cherry Evans, I think might be

1551
01:12:45,947 --> 01:12:49,467
Speaker 11: the oldest player in the NRL. You know, sometimes it's

1552
01:12:49,507 --> 01:12:54,467
Speaker 11: about being healthy and and methodical, and I thought exactly

1553
01:12:54,507 --> 01:12:58,387
Speaker 11: that's what the Warriors were on on Friday night. They

1554
01:12:58,387 --> 01:13:01,067
Speaker 11: didn't you know, they didn't get scared, they didn't freak

1555
01:13:01,147 --> 01:13:04,067
Speaker 11: out after that early manly try. It just bit by

1556
01:13:04,147 --> 01:13:08,827
Speaker 11: bit they put together nice moves and I thought, for

1557
01:13:09,667 --> 01:13:13,147
Speaker 11: webe the carriage. Andrew Webster, he must have been so

1558
01:13:13,187 --> 01:13:17,027
Speaker 11: stoked because he's he's got a plan and they absolutely

1559
01:13:17,067 --> 01:13:19,827
Speaker 11: stuck to it. And we're a team, let's be honest,

1560
01:13:19,907 --> 01:13:22,907
Speaker 11: that is lacking the big stars. So on paper, we

1561
01:13:22,987 --> 01:13:24,107
Speaker 11: should not have won that game.

1562
01:13:24,387 --> 01:13:26,267
Speaker 2: I must say, you said they didn't freak out after

1563
01:13:26,307 --> 01:13:28,227
Speaker 2: conceding the first try. I must say I was a

1564
01:13:28,227 --> 01:13:31,587
Speaker 2: little bit concerned after they considered that first try. I

1565
01:13:31,627 --> 01:13:33,427
Speaker 2: wondered what was going to get, what was going to happen.

1566
01:13:33,467 --> 01:13:36,027
Speaker 2: I actually feared for us a little bit.

1567
01:13:36,947 --> 01:13:39,427
Speaker 11: Yeah, well, that's the thing I think when you look

1568
01:13:39,427 --> 01:13:43,627
Speaker 11: at the Warriors team, even I still don't believe Roger

1569
01:13:43,667 --> 01:13:47,027
Speaker 11: Tuvarsi Sheik should play on the wing. But look, we've

1570
01:13:47,027 --> 01:13:49,187
Speaker 11: got to trust him. We'll be trust in the process

1571
01:13:49,267 --> 01:13:53,227
Speaker 11: because you know what's what happened there is Ali lad

1572
01:13:53,227 --> 01:13:57,667
Speaker 11: Taua had a good game. We saw even our has

1573
01:13:57,707 --> 01:14:01,267
Speaker 11: started to combine really nicely. We needed to see that

1574
01:14:01,347 --> 01:14:04,187
Speaker 11: because to me, the X factor comes from someone like

1575
01:14:04,307 --> 01:14:07,707
Speaker 11: Letter Halasima off the bench and harped on about him

1576
01:14:07,747 --> 01:14:09,947
Speaker 11: for a while. But he's a guy who could be

1577
01:14:09,987 --> 01:14:13,067
Speaker 11: a superstar. How we manage him is important. But also

1578
01:14:13,827 --> 01:14:16,507
Speaker 11: we can't let him go like Ellie Katora to the storm,

1579
01:14:16,627 --> 01:14:20,787
Speaker 11: so the process of getting him to that next level

1580
01:14:21,347 --> 01:14:24,467
Speaker 11: is vital. But I mean, I'm always a believer that

1581
01:14:24,547 --> 01:14:26,947
Speaker 11: someone like Rogers Tvasis she should be a bit like

1582
01:14:27,187 --> 01:14:30,827
Speaker 11: the way Larry Daley moved closer to the ball as

1583
01:14:30,907 --> 01:14:33,867
Speaker 11: his career went on, and should almost be a standoff

1584
01:14:33,867 --> 01:14:35,627
Speaker 11: by now. But hey, as long as we winning games

1585
01:14:35,667 --> 01:14:37,827
Speaker 11: have come out on the wing, let's just keep it

1586
01:14:37,867 --> 01:14:38,147
Speaker 11: that way.

1587
01:14:38,267 --> 01:14:38,787
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

1588
01:14:38,827 --> 01:14:38,987
Speaker 9: Now.

1589
01:14:39,067 --> 01:14:42,107
Speaker 2: The rooster is the next they beat the Panthers, they

1590
01:14:42,147 --> 01:14:43,867
Speaker 2: beat Penrith James.

1591
01:14:44,507 --> 01:14:46,347
Speaker 11: I know. And the thing is, I was looking at

1592
01:14:46,347 --> 01:14:49,387
Speaker 11: this as a player again. Alfahu White, who played for

1593
01:14:49,587 --> 01:14:54,427
Speaker 11: Chlston Boyce HI for fifteen rugby and just you know,

1594
01:14:54,547 --> 01:14:56,587
Speaker 11: sometimes you just go where's that guy? From him and

1595
01:14:56,587 --> 01:14:59,347
Speaker 11: you go, I remember seeing him somewhere and yeah, just

1596
01:14:59,387 --> 01:15:01,947
Speaker 11: down the road here from my house in west Auckland.

1597
01:15:02,707 --> 01:15:05,747
Speaker 11: So seeing this is the thing. There's a lot of

1598
01:15:05,747 --> 01:15:08,187
Speaker 11: players who are who were starting to mature and turn

1599
01:15:08,227 --> 01:15:13,707
Speaker 11: into really solid pros, and watching them, I guess boss

1600
01:15:14,347 --> 01:15:17,187
Speaker 11: the Pendris side around. There was a bit of a

1601
01:15:17,227 --> 01:15:20,307
Speaker 11: comeback here and it came down to the last seconds,

1602
01:15:20,387 --> 01:15:25,347
Speaker 11: but really they look solid after a terrible start. So

1603
01:15:25,387 --> 01:15:28,267
Speaker 11: this is what you want from the competition, really, is

1604
01:15:28,267 --> 01:15:30,827
Speaker 11: that anybody can get anybody to Super rugby is doing

1605
01:15:30,827 --> 01:15:35,067
Speaker 11: that for sure, and I mean I think Super rugby

1606
01:15:35,067 --> 01:15:39,747
Speaker 11: has probably been even more entertaining. But the NRL's getting

1607
01:15:39,747 --> 01:15:40,987
Speaker 11: into its work, isn't it, And.

1608
01:15:40,987 --> 01:15:42,907
Speaker 2: Dat it is. Indeed it is. Well it's got to rugby.

1609
01:15:42,987 --> 01:15:45,787
Speaker 2: Nice segue, because the Chiefs are top, but from the

1610
01:15:45,827 --> 01:15:49,867
Speaker 2: second place Crusaders down to the bottom place more Ona Pacifica.

1611
01:15:49,987 --> 01:15:53,347
Speaker 2: There's only eight points between those ten teams. And it's

1612
01:15:53,387 --> 01:15:56,907
Speaker 2: exactly what you just said. Anyone can beat anybody true

1613
01:15:56,987 --> 01:16:01,027
Speaker 2: jeopardy and some cracking games of rugby.

1614
01:16:01,187 --> 01:16:03,747
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean there's no natural alpha, you know, That's

1615
01:16:03,787 --> 01:16:05,747
Speaker 11: what I quite like about it. So it is like

1616
01:16:05,827 --> 01:16:08,507
Speaker 11: the end of that scene in Jurassic World where they

1617
01:16:08,547 --> 01:16:10,987
Speaker 11: had that sort of like the one that the dinosaur

1618
01:16:11,027 --> 01:16:13,787
Speaker 11: cooked up in the lab versus t Rex. I don't

1619
01:16:13,827 --> 01:16:16,667
Speaker 11: know if I'm going too far from your wheelhouse of

1620
01:16:16,707 --> 01:16:20,987
Speaker 11: movies here, Pony, but we saw that with the Blues

1621
01:16:20,987 --> 01:16:23,507
Speaker 11: and the Chiefs last night. I know Minty on your

1622
01:16:23,507 --> 01:16:25,907
Speaker 11: show was, oh, by the way, have you seen Jurassic World?

1623
01:16:26,027 --> 01:16:27,747
Speaker 2: I know I haven't, but I feel like I have

1624
01:16:27,867 --> 01:16:29,267
Speaker 2: now that you've explained the ending.

1625
01:16:30,027 --> 01:16:34,107
Speaker 11: Yes, yes, yeah, great battle between those two. But I

1626
01:16:34,147 --> 01:16:36,547
Speaker 11: mean Minty is the Chiefs man, and God bless him,

1627
01:16:36,547 --> 01:16:39,747
Speaker 11: but he's definitely the glass artful Chiefs version. I'm the

1628
01:16:39,787 --> 01:16:42,107
Speaker 11: glass half empty guy at the moment, because you know,

1629
01:16:42,147 --> 01:16:46,547
Speaker 11: it was just a conversion shaving upright the cost that cost.

1630
01:16:46,587 --> 01:16:51,187
Speaker 11: The Blues are really solid victory against the odds last night,

1631
01:16:51,307 --> 01:16:53,667
Speaker 11: and yeah, the Chiefs have got a few things they

1632
01:16:53,707 --> 01:16:56,107
Speaker 11: need to go away and work on. I think it's

1633
01:16:56,147 --> 01:16:58,427
Speaker 11: good to see two strong hookers out there, with Brodie

1634
01:16:58,467 --> 01:17:00,867
Speaker 11: mccollis coming into the fray and then the one to

1635
01:17:01,027 --> 01:17:07,067
Speaker 11: punch with him and SUMMERSONI Tokiyaho but really I think

1636
01:17:07,067 --> 01:17:10,947
Speaker 11: they got lucky. And when I look at Zavi Tairly

1637
01:17:11,147 --> 01:17:14,787
Speaker 11: and then Cam Christie pretty much two guys on debut

1638
01:17:16,147 --> 01:17:18,587
Speaker 11: looking so good for the Blues. They are the future.

1639
01:17:19,107 --> 01:17:21,747
Speaker 11: And Tarey has been targeted quite a bit under twenty

1640
01:17:21,787 --> 01:17:24,227
Speaker 11: scepta and I think, and you know he's been everyone

1641
01:17:24,227 --> 01:17:27,347
Speaker 11: talks about them. But Cam Christie out of Audiowa College.

1642
01:17:27,427 --> 01:17:29,867
Speaker 11: I mean, I thought there were only rest homes in Audioway,

1643
01:17:30,147 --> 01:17:34,667
Speaker 11: but yet there is a college there and senior kids

1644
01:17:34,707 --> 01:17:37,667
Speaker 11: to just normal state schools. Because it doesn't they can

1645
01:17:37,707 --> 01:17:38,667
Speaker 11: still rise to the top.

1646
01:17:38,707 --> 01:17:42,107
Speaker 2: Pony, You're so right about the kick, because that slightly

1647
01:17:42,107 --> 01:17:45,107
Speaker 2: to the left. Then we're having a different conversation as

1648
01:17:45,147 --> 01:17:48,147
Speaker 2: we are of Sam Gilbert's drop goal at the end

1649
01:17:48,187 --> 01:17:51,427
Speaker 2: of the game on Friday night is slightly more to

1650
01:17:51,507 --> 01:17:56,107
Speaker 2: the right. You know, there are very small margins between

1651
01:17:56,627 --> 01:17:59,787
Speaker 2: defeat and victory and super agular this year, which again

1652
01:18:00,307 --> 01:18:02,627
Speaker 2: is what we're after. But yeah, it's funny how small

1653
01:18:02,667 --> 01:18:05,507
Speaker 2: margins can have such huge, huge impacts.

1654
01:18:06,427 --> 01:18:08,867
Speaker 11: Thing. On the end of the Highlanders game, there was

1655
01:18:08,907 --> 01:18:11,027
Speaker 11: a high tackle by Peter among the Jensen and I

1656
01:18:11,107 --> 01:18:13,987
Speaker 11: was thinking, okay, did the refs miss that? And they said,

1657
01:18:14,027 --> 01:18:16,307
Speaker 11: it's not yellow cart threshold, but that's still really a

1658
01:18:16,347 --> 01:18:19,467
Speaker 11: high tackle that I think a TMO should rule on,

1659
01:18:20,027 --> 01:18:23,027
Speaker 11: and there seems to be a few of those discrepancies.

1660
01:18:23,067 --> 01:18:25,867
Speaker 11: Rugby is absolutely riddled with it at the moment because

1661
01:18:26,147 --> 01:18:28,347
Speaker 11: there was a kind of potential headbut by this French

1662
01:18:28,347 --> 01:18:30,987
Speaker 11: hook in Malvaca this morning in the Six Nations and

1663
01:18:31,027 --> 01:18:33,467
Speaker 11: that was I thought it was going to be upgraded

1664
01:18:33,507 --> 01:18:36,147
Speaker 11: to red and stayed yellow. So who knows what the

1665
01:18:36,147 --> 01:18:39,187
Speaker 11: hell's going on up the upstairs, because I mean, are

1666
01:18:39,187 --> 01:18:41,387
Speaker 11: they like me? They just like triple screening and looking

1667
01:18:41,427 --> 01:18:44,187
Speaker 11: on Instagram while they're watching the game because potentially they

1668
01:18:44,267 --> 01:18:45,347
Speaker 11: might be Yeah, so.

1669
01:18:45,667 --> 01:18:48,747
Speaker 2: They don't have their full focus where they should have

1670
01:18:48,827 --> 01:18:50,987
Speaker 2: in other words, yeah on.

1671
01:18:50,947 --> 01:18:54,267
Speaker 11: The twisties like myself or whatever, you know, like chips

1672
01:18:54,267 --> 01:18:57,387
Speaker 11: and dirt and so TMO is just focus people. We

1673
01:18:57,467 --> 01:18:59,267
Speaker 11: need to actually need you to contribute.

1674
01:18:59,427 --> 01:19:01,747
Speaker 2: Do you ever when you're watching Sky do you ever

1675
01:19:01,867 --> 01:19:04,227
Speaker 2: pause it and then you know, to do whatever and

1676
01:19:04,267 --> 01:19:06,867
Speaker 2: then and then started again and then forget that you're

1677
01:19:06,907 --> 01:19:09,467
Speaker 2: actually about a couple of minutes behind even when you

1678
01:19:09,507 --> 01:19:11,707
Speaker 2: go through halftime all the time.

1679
01:19:11,707 --> 01:19:14,227
Speaker 11: And then they get an annoying text from the Crogo's Wild

1680
01:19:14,267 --> 01:19:16,907
Speaker 11: group chat and I just go, okay, right, that's some

1681
01:19:17,267 --> 01:19:20,387
Speaker 11: I'm miles behind here. And even the Tribat, which is

1682
01:19:20,427 --> 01:19:22,067
Speaker 11: a really good app for people out there if you

1683
01:19:22,107 --> 01:19:25,307
Speaker 11: love your sport, tried as a New Zealand act. That's

1684
01:19:25,347 --> 01:19:28,347
Speaker 11: got all your favorite sporting sporting teams. But they'll give

1685
01:19:28,347 --> 01:19:30,467
Speaker 11: me an a lit and I'll find out. Oh okay,

1686
01:19:30,627 --> 01:19:32,707
Speaker 11: you know King, You see you've scored, and it's like

1687
01:19:32,747 --> 01:19:35,587
Speaker 11: I'm watching the game and it's nowhere ere.

1688
01:19:35,747 --> 01:19:37,827
Speaker 2: You're still watching the You're still watching the pre game,

1689
01:19:38,027 --> 01:19:42,227
Speaker 2: still watching the pre game. Hey, Liam Lawson's going to

1690
01:19:42,587 --> 01:19:45,587
Speaker 2: going to take to the track at Albert Park this afternoon.

1691
01:19:46,267 --> 01:19:48,507
Speaker 2: In about three hours or so, he'll be out there.

1692
01:19:48,507 --> 01:19:52,027
Speaker 2: It's going to rain. What what are you expecting from

1693
01:19:52,427 --> 01:19:53,747
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson this afternoon.

1694
01:19:54,867 --> 01:19:57,827
Speaker 11: Well, apparently he's good in the wet I've heard, so

1695
01:19:57,947 --> 01:20:01,787
Speaker 11: that's that's great. I mean he grew up and book Koey.

1696
01:20:01,867 --> 01:20:03,827
Speaker 11: Everyone loves the Book of Kelley Bogan, whether it's the

1697
01:20:03,907 --> 01:20:07,867
Speaker 11: late great Possum Born, you know, everybody's every great driver

1698
01:20:07,947 --> 01:20:10,067
Speaker 11: has really cut their teeth there. But he is actually

1699
01:20:10,107 --> 01:20:13,387
Speaker 11: from there, from humble beginnings, which is really hard to do.

1700
01:20:14,027 --> 01:20:16,867
Speaker 11: In Formula one. You know, he does look like a

1701
01:20:16,947 --> 01:20:18,947
Speaker 11: rich kid with his blonde here who looks like Draco

1702
01:20:19,027 --> 01:20:21,547
Speaker 11: Malfoy out of Harry Potter? Do you know that reference? Bony?

1703
01:20:21,667 --> 01:20:23,667
Speaker 2: No, But again I'm learning all the time.

1704
01:20:23,787 --> 01:20:28,067
Speaker 11: Okay, but this is the thing. His car sounds like

1705
01:20:28,147 --> 01:20:31,747
Speaker 11: my car. It's got major problems. It barely passes the

1706
01:20:31,787 --> 01:20:34,907
Speaker 11: war On of Fitness. I've had the huge issues. When

1707
01:20:34,907 --> 01:20:36,507
Speaker 11: I got war On the Fitness the other day for

1708
01:20:36,667 --> 01:20:39,747
Speaker 11: my car, it was all my second happiest day after

1709
01:20:39,787 --> 01:20:43,187
Speaker 11: my daughter's birth, you know, like it was that big

1710
01:20:43,227 --> 01:20:47,467
Speaker 11: of a deal. This car is so crap. But seeing

1711
01:20:47,587 --> 01:20:50,907
Speaker 11: him get the probably the worst, the lesser mechanics, the

1712
01:20:50,987 --> 01:20:54,067
Speaker 11: lesser engineers, and him having engine problems while the staff

1713
01:20:54,107 --> 01:20:58,307
Speaker 11: and it's just flying. It's just typical, isn't it really?

1714
01:20:58,347 --> 01:21:00,907
Speaker 11: Of course, but hopefully you can overcome that and get

1715
01:21:00,907 --> 01:21:02,227
Speaker 11: a warrant.

1716
01:21:02,347 --> 01:21:05,187
Speaker 2: It's hope. So let's have you passed it, Like put

1717
01:21:05,227 --> 01:21:07,147
Speaker 2: a new sticker on his screen. I was not even

1718
01:21:07,187 --> 01:21:09,027
Speaker 2: a sticker anymore. Is that you're sort of slotted into

1719
01:21:09,067 --> 01:21:11,507
Speaker 2: its little into a little case, now, don't you. You

1720
01:21:11,507 --> 01:21:12,867
Speaker 2: don't stick it on the screen anymore.

1721
01:21:12,987 --> 01:21:15,547
Speaker 11: Oh no, there's still a sticker. There's still a ceremony

1722
01:21:15,547 --> 01:21:17,387
Speaker 11: and it lasts for a year. Pony, it's the greatest

1723
01:21:17,427 --> 01:21:20,307
Speaker 11: thing feeling of relief you'll ever feel in your life.

1724
01:21:20,067 --> 01:21:20,947
Speaker 11: Go get one.

1725
01:21:21,667 --> 01:21:25,547
Speaker 2: I'll go and get one when when the need arises.

1726
01:21:25,547 --> 01:21:27,747
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. Look forward to many more

1727
01:21:27,827 --> 01:21:33,627
Speaker 2: niche references from you next Sunday. And as you know, yes,

1728
01:21:33,667 --> 01:21:36,107
Speaker 2: so you're not just, You're not just, You're not just

1729
01:21:36,267 --> 01:21:39,747
Speaker 2: making it up for our benefit. Got on you, James,

1730
01:21:39,747 --> 01:21:42,067
Speaker 2: Thanks indeed, James mcconey a huge part of our Sundays

1731
01:21:42,067 --> 01:21:43,827
Speaker 2: here on News Talks here b seventy two.

1732
01:21:43,867 --> 01:21:47,507
Speaker 1: From breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic field

1733
01:21:49,147 --> 01:21:53,227
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jesus n News Talk ZB one.

1734
01:21:53,147 --> 01:21:55,947
Speaker 2: Fifty six after News, Sport and Weather at two, we're

1735
01:21:55,987 --> 01:22:00,307
Speaker 2: going back twenty three years to saw Grass TPC saw

1736
01:22:00,307 --> 01:22:03,947
Speaker 2: Grass the Players Championship in two thousand and two. Craig

1737
01:22:04,067 --> 01:22:06,787
Speaker 2: Perks famously won that tournament with one of the more

1738
01:22:06,827 --> 01:22:10,467
Speaker 2: extraordinary finishers you're ever likely to see in a golf tournament.

1739
01:22:10,827 --> 01:22:13,547
Speaker 2: Twenty three years on, he's there as a television commentator.

1740
01:22:13,587 --> 01:22:16,227
Speaker 2: It's going to join us to talk about at wonderful

1741
01:22:16,627 --> 01:22:19,147
Speaker 2: four rounds of his twenty three years ago. Auckland f

1742
01:22:19,227 --> 01:22:21,867
Speaker 2: C back in action this afternoon against the Central Coast Mariners.

1743
01:22:21,867 --> 01:22:24,547
Speaker 2: Ago Media five o'clock Star on that one. Jesse randall

1744
01:22:25,027 --> 01:22:27,747
Speaker 2: ahead of that clash, and we're going to go stateside

1745
01:22:27,907 --> 01:22:30,067
Speaker 2: as well to catch you up with the latest an

1746
01:22:30,067 --> 01:22:33,507
Speaker 2: American sport, plus the black Caps against Pakistan underway at

1747
01:22:33,547 --> 01:22:34,187
Speaker 2: two fifteen.

1748
01:22:35,947 --> 01:22:38,867
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

1749
01:22:39,227 --> 01:22:42,747
Speaker 1: and after fields. It's all on Weekends Forward.

1750
01:22:42,547 --> 01:22:47,387
Speaker 16: With Jason Vane on your home of Sport Used Talks.

1751
01:22:48,187 --> 01:22:50,387
Speaker 2: Welcome back into the show seven past two. I'm Jason

1752
01:22:50,427 --> 01:22:52,747
Speaker 2: Pine with Andy McDonald producing the show. We're here till

1753
01:22:52,787 --> 01:22:55,787
Speaker 2: three talking sport. Then Tim Beveridge takes over with the

1754
01:22:55,827 --> 01:22:58,227
Speaker 2: Sunday edition of the Weekend Collective. A bit to get

1755
01:22:58,227 --> 01:23:01,227
Speaker 2: through before we get there. We're stateside, catching you up

1756
01:23:01,227 --> 01:23:03,627
Speaker 2: on all the latest and American sport with our Manly

1757
01:23:03,707 --> 01:23:08,627
Speaker 2: on buzzby Jesse Rand. Auckland FC ahead of their game

1758
01:23:08,667 --> 01:23:11,107
Speaker 2: against the Mariners this afternoon five o'clock. They win that,

1759
01:23:11,187 --> 01:23:13,827
Speaker 2: they go nine points clear at the top of the

1760
01:23:13,867 --> 01:23:17,707
Speaker 2: A League ladder with six games to play. Craig Perks

1761
01:23:17,747 --> 01:23:21,587
Speaker 2: shortly reliving what happened in the Players Championship in two

1762
01:23:21,627 --> 01:23:24,987
Speaker 2: thousand and two. It's on this weekend. Ryan Fox is

1763
01:23:25,747 --> 01:23:28,827
Speaker 2: in the field. Craig Perks is these days a television

1764
01:23:28,947 --> 01:23:31,787
Speaker 2: golf analyst, but how often does he think back to

1765
01:23:32,147 --> 01:23:36,667
Speaker 2: two thousand and two, particularly when he's there at TPC Sawgrass.

1766
01:23:37,187 --> 01:23:42,067
Speaker 2: We'll find out in the next little while. Michael Bracewells

1767
01:23:42,067 --> 01:23:44,027
Speaker 2: won the toss and sent Pakistan and to bat in

1768
01:23:44,067 --> 01:23:46,867
Speaker 2: the first of five T twenty internationals between New Zealand

1769
01:23:46,867 --> 01:23:50,587
Speaker 2: and Pakistan. Hagley Oval and christ Jews looking an absolute picture.

1770
01:23:50,987 --> 01:23:52,947
Speaker 2: We'll keep you updated on that and any other live

1771
01:23:53,027 --> 01:23:56,627
Speaker 2: sport as well, including the Wellington Saints against the Palladaky

1772
01:23:56,707 --> 01:23:59,587
Speaker 2: Years in the New Zealand National Basketball League about to

1773
01:23:59,587 --> 01:24:02,507
Speaker 2: get underway in Wellington. Call us if you like eight

1774
01:24:02,627 --> 01:24:04,867
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty textas if you like nine

1775
01:24:04,907 --> 01:24:07,387
Speaker 2: two ninety two. We'll send us an email if you like.

1776
01:24:07,547 --> 01:24:10,827
Speaker 2: Jason at Newstalk SADB dot co dot in ze. But

1777
01:24:10,907 --> 01:24:13,907
Speaker 2: as we tick past eight past two, as we always

1778
01:24:13,907 --> 01:24:15,867
Speaker 2: do it around about this time on weekend sport, let's

1779
01:24:15,907 --> 01:24:19,107
Speaker 2: get you up to date with some of the sporting

1780
01:24:19,187 --> 01:24:21,947
Speaker 2: things that have been happening while you had your attention

1781
01:24:22,067 --> 01:24:27,227
Speaker 2: elsewhere in case humorst at starting with heartbreak for the

1782
01:24:27,267 --> 01:24:32,587
Speaker 2: Wellington Phoenix women against Sydney last night, Dennis is it

1783
01:24:32,707 --> 01:24:34,107
Speaker 2: back by the time.

1784
01:24:38,467 --> 01:24:40,027
Speaker 11: The dad th.

1785
01:24:43,107 --> 01:24:47,787
Speaker 2: Care the dance to make it a ninety eight minute

1786
01:24:47,787 --> 01:24:51,067
Speaker 2: winner for Sydney FC, sinking the next two to one.

1787
01:24:52,107 --> 01:24:55,347
Speaker 2: But in the UK, Chris Wood and Nottingham Forest continue

1788
01:24:55,347 --> 01:24:56,587
Speaker 2: their good form.

1789
01:24:56,907 --> 01:25:00,867
Speaker 10: It's a beautiful picker to Morgan jerk slights, jot of.

1790
01:25:00,907 --> 01:25:05,907
Speaker 2: Silver and support here is they've done it again.

1791
01:25:05,987 --> 01:25:07,707
Speaker 7: From what under the pitch to the other.

1792
01:25:09,907 --> 01:25:14,187
Speaker 2: It'd switch naive again. They've conceded that for a four

1793
01:25:14,187 --> 01:25:16,987
Speaker 2: to two win for Forest over Ipswich. Nottingham Forest, five

1794
01:25:17,067 --> 01:25:20,307
Speaker 2: points clear of Chelsea. Forest are third and looking great

1795
01:25:20,307 --> 01:25:23,667
Speaker 2: for the Champions League spots closer to Homer thriller. In

1796
01:25:23,707 --> 01:25:27,507
Speaker 2: the NRL last night last play year, walker Overy's.

1797
01:25:27,067 --> 01:25:29,867
Speaker 23: Shoulder of Gily goes back to Humphreys because if here

1798
01:25:29,907 --> 01:25:32,947
Speaker 23: it's take the one point attack to running.

1799
01:25:35,587 --> 01:25:38,107
Speaker 2: Stick that dropped all the difference. The Rabbinue is beating

1800
01:25:38,147 --> 01:25:40,627
Speaker 2: the Dragons twenty five twenty four. Also last night, the

1801
01:25:40,707 --> 01:25:44,147
Speaker 2: Raiders thirty two, the Broncos twenty two, and the Sharks

1802
01:25:44,147 --> 01:25:48,227
Speaker 2: beating the Cowboys thirty six points to twelve to Rugby Union.

1803
01:25:48,267 --> 01:25:50,267
Speaker 2: The Reds have put the warrants haas to the Sword

1804
01:25:50,267 --> 01:25:51,467
Speaker 2: and Super Rugby.

1805
01:25:51,187 --> 01:25:55,387
Speaker 17: Ice and fast Borbough poor Queezer roof superhas blighter.

1806
01:25:55,267 --> 01:26:05,547
Speaker 25: Everything rug everything in field be right great.

1807
01:26:05,747 --> 01:26:08,747
Speaker 2: Third the Reds thirty five to fifteen winners and to

1808
01:26:08,787 --> 01:26:11,987
Speaker 2: the final weekend of the Six Nations. Ireland did it

1809
01:26:12,067 --> 01:26:14,987
Speaker 2: the hard way but eventually beat Italy. A little kick

1810
01:26:14,987 --> 01:26:22,667
Speaker 2: over the top from Captain had Persian ship that scored

1811
01:26:22,787 --> 01:26:24,547
Speaker 2: Ireland's colors point five.

1812
01:26:24,867 --> 01:26:26,027
Speaker 21: It's a hunchrick for.

1813
01:26:26,147 --> 01:26:31,907
Speaker 2: Shia twenty two seventeen to Ireland. England utterly humiliated the

1814
01:26:31,907 --> 01:26:34,347
Speaker 2: Welsh to give themselves a chance to win.

1815
01:26:34,387 --> 01:26:39,067
Speaker 19: The title has never been in Wales by this march,

1816
01:26:39,107 --> 01:26:45,387
Speaker 19: you'd ever before home or away, and the site there

1817
01:26:45,387 --> 01:26:48,187
Speaker 19: about of Jones just about suns things up.

1818
01:26:48,507 --> 01:26:49,907
Speaker 2: The final scoring.

1819
01:26:49,627 --> 01:26:54,947
Speaker 5: Card in England have beat Wales by sixty eight points to.

1820
01:26:55,027 --> 01:26:59,827
Speaker 2: Ball team incredible, but then France beating Scotland to secure

1821
01:26:59,987 --> 01:27:02,267
Speaker 2: the Six Nations Championship.

1822
01:27:01,667 --> 01:27:05,907
Speaker 21: And into Max's We'll have the champlainship.

1823
01:27:06,667 --> 01:27:12,467
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Fronts. I've written the nudge.

1824
01:27:12,307 --> 01:27:16,947
Speaker 1: Target to the Trump breaking down the hail Mary's and

1825
01:27:17,027 --> 01:27:22,587
Speaker 1: the Epic Fails Weekend Sport with Jason M News Talk.

1826
01:27:22,707 --> 01:27:26,707
Speaker 2: ZENB eleven minutes past two on news Talk ZB. Ryan

1827
01:27:26,747 --> 01:27:29,547
Speaker 2: Fox is tied for thirty third at two under the

1828
01:27:29,547 --> 01:27:32,147
Speaker 2: card after an even part third round of the Players

1829
01:27:32,227 --> 01:27:36,787
Speaker 2: Championship at TPC Sawgrass, widely known of course, as the

1830
01:27:36,827 --> 01:27:39,507
Speaker 2: fifth Major. He is ten shots off the lead held

1831
01:27:39,507 --> 01:27:43,307
Speaker 2: by American JJ Spawn, who is twelve under the cart.

1832
01:27:43,867 --> 01:27:47,347
Speaker 2: In two thousand and two, Kiwee Craig Perks produced one

1833
01:27:47,387 --> 01:27:51,587
Speaker 2: of golf's most memorable triumphs when he won this very event,

1834
01:27:52,067 --> 01:27:54,867
Speaker 2: and one of the more remarkable finishes to a golf tournament.

1835
01:27:54,947 --> 01:27:58,507
Speaker 2: He was a stroke behind Stephen Ames when he chipped

1836
01:27:58,547 --> 01:28:01,867
Speaker 2: in for eagle at the par five sixteenth. Then on

1837
01:28:01,907 --> 01:28:05,427
Speaker 2: the famous island degreen at seventeen he sunk a twenty

1838
01:28:05,427 --> 01:28:09,347
Speaker 2: eight foot birdie park and on eighteen he took three shots,

1839
01:28:09,787 --> 01:28:14,627
Speaker 2: still wasn't on the green. But then this, well that's beautiful,

1840
01:28:15,187 --> 01:28:17,147
Speaker 2: and that is do you put away?

1841
01:28:18,907 --> 01:28:19,827
Speaker 7: Why not? Me?

1842
01:28:20,667 --> 01:28:26,267
Speaker 18: As the three greatest pullouts the Major Championship type, the atmosphere.

1843
01:28:25,787 --> 01:28:29,307
Speaker 2: I've ever seen, pitches it in on sixteenth for eagle,

1844
01:28:30,027 --> 01:28:32,467
Speaker 2: a snake over the hill at seventeen.

1845
01:28:32,347 --> 01:28:33,867
Speaker 6: Another pick in at a camp.

1846
01:28:35,347 --> 01:28:37,627
Speaker 18: Not only have you seen one of the most shocking

1847
01:28:38,307 --> 01:28:43,667
Speaker 18: conclusions in golf history, especially at this championship, you've seen

1848
01:28:43,707 --> 01:28:45,147
Speaker 18: the biggest surprise.

1849
01:28:44,787 --> 01:28:47,387
Speaker 11: Winner of this championship in its history.

1850
01:28:48,387 --> 01:28:52,827
Speaker 2: Craig Perks incredible one putt on the last three holes.

1851
01:28:52,907 --> 01:28:56,267
Speaker 2: Craig Perks is now a TV golf analyst and has

1852
01:28:56,307 --> 01:29:00,467
Speaker 2: been covering the Plass Championship. He joins us now from Florida. Kraig,

1853
01:29:00,507 --> 01:29:02,907
Speaker 2: I can't believe it's been twenty three years. I remember

1854
01:29:03,347 --> 01:29:05,867
Speaker 2: being glued to it back in March of two thousand

1855
01:29:05,867 --> 01:29:09,147
Speaker 2: and two. What stands out most vividly when you think

1856
01:29:09,187 --> 01:29:11,667
Speaker 2: back to that day, Well.

1857
01:29:11,467 --> 01:29:16,707
Speaker 7: Good afternoon. Yeah, many strong memories, no question about it.

1858
01:29:16,867 --> 01:29:20,707
Speaker 7: And some of the commentary from Johnny Miller. You know,

1859
01:29:20,867 --> 01:29:25,147
Speaker 7: the three greatest wholeouts and major championship history is a

1860
01:29:25,187 --> 01:29:27,267
Speaker 7: certainly a compliment. I know when I still on the

1861
01:29:27,267 --> 01:29:31,267
Speaker 7: eighteenth tee with a two shot lead and took out driver.

1862
01:29:32,067 --> 01:29:34,547
Speaker 7: I had been living in Louisiana for about twenty years

1863
01:29:34,587 --> 01:29:37,147
Speaker 7: at that time, and he said I must have left

1864
01:29:37,627 --> 01:29:40,747
Speaker 7: my brain and the bayou. So a lot of great comments,

1865
01:29:40,787 --> 01:29:44,267
Speaker 7: a lot of great memories. You know when I showed

1866
01:29:44,347 --> 01:29:49,227
Speaker 7: up there for my very first Players Championship in two

1867
01:29:49,307 --> 01:29:50,787
Speaker 7: thousand and two, I was just honored to be in

1868
01:29:50,787 --> 01:29:53,147
Speaker 7: the field, really just privileged to be a PGA two

1869
01:29:53,227 --> 01:29:57,347
Speaker 7: player coming from Palmerston, North, New Zealand, and lo and behold,

1870
01:29:57,387 --> 01:30:01,347
Speaker 7: I walked away with a crystal and yeah, so many

1871
01:30:01,587 --> 01:30:06,147
Speaker 7: incredibly indelible memories, I guess throughout the years, but it

1872
01:30:06,427 --> 01:30:09,347
Speaker 7: it is. I've chatted with a few people this week

1873
01:30:09,387 --> 01:30:13,107
Speaker 7: and it seems like everyone remembers me for one week

1874
01:30:13,147 --> 01:30:16,267
Speaker 7: of the year, and a lot of it. Most of

1875
01:30:16,267 --> 01:30:18,947
Speaker 7: them have said, I can't believe it's been twenty three years.

1876
01:30:19,187 --> 01:30:21,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I certainly couldn't. I was watching the footage

1877
01:30:21,267 --> 01:30:24,827
Speaker 2: back this morning in preparation for chatting to r Kragan

1878
01:30:25,387 --> 01:30:29,267
Speaker 2: and the emotion when you won you almost looked overcome

1879
01:30:29,307 --> 01:30:31,987
Speaker 2: by it? Or what was it like when you chipped

1880
01:30:31,987 --> 01:30:33,107
Speaker 2: in on eighteen and you'd won.

1881
01:30:34,747 --> 01:30:37,107
Speaker 7: I was overwhelmed, you know. I think at the time

1882
01:30:37,347 --> 01:30:41,147
Speaker 7: I really didn't know what I'd accomplished. First, I didn't

1883
01:30:41,187 --> 01:30:44,467
Speaker 7: know the magnitude of the event and the reason I

1884
01:30:44,507 --> 01:30:47,147
Speaker 7: state that I was actually in the second to last

1885
01:30:47,187 --> 01:30:51,107
Speaker 7: group the following year with a wonderful chance to win.

1886
01:30:51,147 --> 01:30:54,027
Speaker 7: I was one back going into the final day, and

1887
01:30:54,027 --> 01:30:56,507
Speaker 7: no one up to that point had ever won back

1888
01:30:56,547 --> 01:30:59,707
Speaker 7: to back Players Championship and here I was, the unheralded

1889
01:30:59,747 --> 01:31:03,107
Speaker 7: Kiwi with a chance to do it. But then go

1890
01:31:03,187 --> 01:31:06,307
Speaker 7: back to two and after I chipped in, you know,

1891
01:31:06,467 --> 01:31:09,547
Speaker 7: I think just a flood of emotions. I'd you know,

1892
01:31:09,547 --> 01:31:13,147
Speaker 7: I'd come from New Zealand, gone through qualifying school ten

1893
01:31:13,187 --> 01:31:14,147
Speaker 7: different times.

1894
01:31:14,307 --> 01:31:15,267
Speaker 11: I had.

1895
01:31:16,827 --> 01:31:19,747
Speaker 7: Just had been you know, I was a journeyman. It

1896
01:31:19,867 --> 01:31:22,547
Speaker 7: was a grind. I got to the point at one

1897
01:31:22,627 --> 01:31:24,947
Speaker 7: point in nineteen ninety nine when I'd run out of

1898
01:31:24,987 --> 01:31:27,947
Speaker 7: money and I was pleading to some of my sponsors

1899
01:31:28,707 --> 01:31:30,627
Speaker 7: just give me one more chance. I really think I'm

1900
01:31:30,667 --> 01:31:32,667
Speaker 7: good enough to do it. And lo and behold. I

1901
01:31:32,747 --> 01:31:35,907
Speaker 7: got onto the PGA too the next year, and you know,

1902
01:31:36,067 --> 01:31:38,467
Speaker 7: and two years later I won the Players. But I

1903
01:31:38,467 --> 01:31:41,947
Speaker 7: think more than anything, it was just, you know, it

1904
01:31:41,987 --> 01:31:47,907
Speaker 7: was an appreciation for those that helped me along the way,

1905
01:31:47,987 --> 01:31:51,027
Speaker 7: the journey that I'd made from New Zealand, and you know,

1906
01:31:51,187 --> 01:31:54,747
Speaker 7: just to win an event of that magnitude in the

1907
01:31:54,787 --> 01:31:58,027
Speaker 7: exhilarating fashion that I did it, it was it was

1908
01:31:58,107 --> 01:31:59,707
Speaker 7: it was pretty cool to be a.

1909
01:31:59,627 --> 01:32:01,787
Speaker 2: Part of that, Can we just go through the last

1910
01:32:02,107 --> 01:32:06,707
Speaker 2: three holes on sixteen? Part five? An eagle walk us

1911
01:32:06,747 --> 01:32:07,507
Speaker 2: through sixteen.

1912
01:32:08,987 --> 01:32:12,067
Speaker 7: Well, it was interesting because I had driven it all

1913
01:32:12,107 --> 01:32:15,387
Speaker 7: over the the entire dad. I'd only hit four fairways,

1914
01:32:15,427 --> 01:32:19,387
Speaker 7: and I've missed a couple of very short parts, one

1915
01:32:19,427 --> 01:32:21,587
Speaker 7: at twelve and one at fifteen, and I was still

1916
01:32:21,627 --> 01:32:26,787
Speaker 7: on the sixteenth tee and I still wasn't even contemplating winning.

1917
01:32:27,827 --> 01:32:29,947
Speaker 7: I'd played well up to that point. I was really

1918
01:32:30,267 --> 01:32:32,827
Speaker 7: in a situation in my career, was just trying to

1919
01:32:32,947 --> 01:32:34,987
Speaker 7: keep my PGA to a card, and I thought, man

1920
01:32:35,027 --> 01:32:37,547
Speaker 7: if I could just have a good finish this week,

1921
01:32:37,587 --> 01:32:39,227
Speaker 7: I could lock up my card for the rest of

1922
01:32:39,227 --> 01:32:42,747
Speaker 7: the year. And exhale, I had a wonderful drive down sixteen,

1923
01:32:42,787 --> 01:32:45,067
Speaker 7: the best of the week, and it just set things

1924
01:32:45,107 --> 01:32:49,027
Speaker 7: in motion middle of the fairway with a foe iron

1925
01:32:49,107 --> 01:32:52,467
Speaker 7: from over two hundred yards and I was always a

1926
01:32:52,467 --> 01:32:54,667
Speaker 7: hooker of the golf ball or a hard drawer of

1927
01:32:54,707 --> 01:32:56,347
Speaker 7: the golf ball, and the pin was over there on

1928
01:32:56,387 --> 01:32:59,587
Speaker 7: the right, and I just told myself to hit it solid,

1929
01:33:00,187 --> 01:33:02,387
Speaker 7: and I was very fortunate there was a ribbon rough

1930
01:33:03,747 --> 01:33:05,787
Speaker 7: that blanketed the edge of the green before it went

1931
01:33:05,827 --> 01:33:09,027
Speaker 7: in the water not there anymore. And if it wasn't there,

1932
01:33:09,107 --> 01:33:12,067
Speaker 7: my border forward gone on the water, but it stayed

1933
01:33:12,107 --> 01:33:17,387
Speaker 7: up and I chipped it in and then sort of

1934
01:33:17,507 --> 01:33:21,147
Speaker 7: to jump ahead here. The walk to seventeen was just amazing.

1935
01:33:21,307 --> 01:33:24,587
Speaker 7: I was the heart rate was elevated. I was having

1936
01:33:24,627 --> 01:33:29,667
Speaker 7: trouble breathing. I was having trouble getting slyron spitting, but

1937
01:33:29,787 --> 01:33:34,107
Speaker 7: it was it was you know, Pete Iron Dean Beaman

1938
01:33:34,267 --> 01:33:38,187
Speaker 7: created that stadium atmosphere, that colisseum, and it was electric.

1939
01:33:38,947 --> 01:33:43,027
Speaker 7: And I still wasn't thinking about winning. I was just

1940
01:33:43,227 --> 01:33:46,027
Speaker 7: really trying to enjoy the atmosphere and maybe that was beneficial.

1941
01:33:46,387 --> 01:33:52,707
Speaker 2: Well, seventeen the famous Island green. How intimidating a tea

1942
01:33:52,747 --> 01:33:53,507
Speaker 2: shot is that?

1943
01:33:55,787 --> 01:33:59,507
Speaker 7: Well, I think you've seen the triumphs and the disasters there.

1944
01:34:00,907 --> 01:34:01,267
Speaker 24: I was.

1945
01:34:01,907 --> 01:34:05,267
Speaker 7: I felt lucky, you know, I was really overwhelmed getting

1946
01:34:05,307 --> 01:34:09,347
Speaker 7: to the tea. It's as nervous as I've ever been.

1947
01:34:10,667 --> 01:34:16,267
Speaker 7: And knowing the history onics at that hole, and really

1948
01:34:15,387 --> 01:34:18,387
Speaker 7: there's there's no margin of era. You have to hit

1949
01:34:18,387 --> 01:34:20,787
Speaker 7: it on the green or you're going to look like

1950
01:34:20,787 --> 01:34:23,387
Speaker 7: a full I just stood up on the green. I

1951
01:34:23,387 --> 01:34:26,107
Speaker 7: felt very calm. I had a wonderful yardage, and I

1952
01:34:26,147 --> 01:34:29,147
Speaker 7: didn't even really look at the flag. There was a

1953
01:34:29,267 --> 01:34:34,747
Speaker 7: huge NBC plaqueard on a TV tower well behind the green,

1954
01:34:34,787 --> 01:34:36,307
Speaker 7: and I said, I'm just going to aim at the end,

1955
01:34:36,547 --> 01:34:38,747
Speaker 7: and that was really all I focused on. I hit

1956
01:34:38,787 --> 01:34:41,387
Speaker 7: it solid. When I looked up, seeing it pretty much

1957
01:34:41,427 --> 01:34:44,947
Speaker 7: going at that end of the NBC, I was relieved.

1958
01:34:44,987 --> 01:34:46,987
Speaker 7: And then obviously the seat land in the middle of

1959
01:34:46,987 --> 01:34:51,707
Speaker 7: the green, knowing all the disasters that occurred there in

1960
01:34:51,827 --> 01:34:55,187
Speaker 7: previous years, I was more than pleased. I can tell

1961
01:34:55,187 --> 01:34:56,347
Speaker 7: you that, all right.

1962
01:34:56,387 --> 01:34:59,347
Speaker 2: So then eighteen what happened on eighteen?

1963
01:34:59,507 --> 01:35:04,787
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, so this was my first Players Championship and

1964
01:35:04,827 --> 01:35:08,467
Speaker 7: I played pray this round Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and I'd

1965
01:35:08,547 --> 01:35:12,227
Speaker 7: hit driver there every single day. And again, I'm a

1966
01:35:12,307 --> 01:35:14,987
Speaker 7: Keiwi and I have no idea. I have no idea

1967
01:35:15,067 --> 01:35:17,027
Speaker 7: how to win golf tournament. So I had you know,

1968
01:35:17,027 --> 01:35:19,827
Speaker 7: I played on the I'd won a lot in mini

1969
01:35:19,867 --> 01:35:22,507
Speaker 7: tours and a little bit in college, and but you know,

1970
01:35:22,507 --> 01:35:24,587
Speaker 7: I wasn't proficient at it. So I didn't stand on

1971
01:35:24,627 --> 01:35:26,347
Speaker 7: that tea going okay, I got to protect this two

1972
01:35:26,387 --> 01:35:29,507
Speaker 7: shot lead. I'm really thinking more Okay, I just hit

1973
01:35:29,547 --> 01:35:30,947
Speaker 7: a good t shot and then hit it in the

1974
01:35:30,947 --> 01:35:33,707
Speaker 7: grain and make a power not not the culmination of

1975
01:35:33,707 --> 01:35:38,427
Speaker 7: the whole week, and where I positioned myself. You know, legitimately,

1976
01:35:38,627 --> 01:35:41,307
Speaker 7: great champions would have probably hit a four or five

1977
01:35:41,347 --> 01:35:43,307
Speaker 7: on down to the right and hit an eight iron

1978
01:35:43,387 --> 01:35:45,987
Speaker 7: short of the green and knocked it on and made

1979
01:35:45,987 --> 01:35:48,027
Speaker 7: a five and one by one and walked off and

1980
01:35:48,067 --> 01:35:51,027
Speaker 7: everyone would have pat padded to you on the back

1981
01:35:51,067 --> 01:35:53,787
Speaker 7: and said well done. I just I was still trying

1982
01:35:53,787 --> 01:35:57,187
Speaker 7: to play golf like I had through my career in

1983
01:35:57,227 --> 01:35:59,827
Speaker 7: New Zealand and then through college and the Mini Tours

1984
01:35:59,867 --> 01:36:02,787
Speaker 7: and the and the Nike too, and so on and

1985
01:36:02,787 --> 01:36:05,147
Speaker 7: so forth, and so I just thought, I'm going to

1986
01:36:05,227 --> 01:36:06,987
Speaker 7: hit this drive and I'm gonna take get down the right.

1987
01:36:07,067 --> 01:36:09,987
Speaker 7: It sets up perfectly. I had a draw and lo

1988
01:36:10,147 --> 01:36:13,027
Speaker 7: and beholder. You know, coming down on the down swing,

1989
01:36:13,027 --> 01:36:14,227
Speaker 7: you don't want to hook it in the water, so

1990
01:36:14,267 --> 01:36:16,627
Speaker 7: you block it to the right. And then I get

1991
01:36:16,667 --> 01:36:18,387
Speaker 7: over there and I'm still trying to make it four,

1992
01:36:19,067 --> 01:36:21,387
Speaker 7: not thinking okay, I can just make it five and

1993
01:36:21,427 --> 01:36:25,587
Speaker 7: I can still win. And then I pitched. I was

1994
01:36:25,627 --> 01:36:27,347
Speaker 7: able to pitch it out, which I think was a

1995
01:36:27,347 --> 01:36:29,827
Speaker 7: pretty smart play. And then I hit this wonderful aid

1996
01:36:29,867 --> 01:36:32,667
Speaker 7: iron from one hundred and sixty yards and thinking it's

1997
01:36:32,667 --> 01:36:34,187
Speaker 7: perfect in the middle of the green that goes over

1998
01:36:34,187 --> 01:36:37,267
Speaker 7: the green. My first thought was, Jean Vandervelt, I'm going

1999
01:36:37,347 --> 01:36:40,467
Speaker 7: to make it double or a triple or a quadruple,

2000
01:36:40,507 --> 01:36:42,107
Speaker 7: and I'm gonna lose this, and I'm gonna look like

2001
01:36:42,147 --> 01:36:45,067
Speaker 7: the biggest moron in the entire world. And I can't

2002
01:36:45,067 --> 01:36:46,667
Speaker 7: believe I've just done this. I've at it over the

2003
01:36:46,707 --> 01:36:48,467
Speaker 7: green in three and now I really do have to

2004
01:36:48,467 --> 01:36:50,307
Speaker 7: get it up and down. And I walked back there,

2005
01:36:50,347 --> 01:36:55,187
Speaker 7: and you know, again, there was this sense of calm.

2006
01:36:55,307 --> 01:36:57,587
Speaker 7: This wasn't the most difficult thing I've ever done in

2007
01:36:57,627 --> 01:37:01,507
Speaker 7: my life to try and keep my competitive career alive.

2008
01:37:01,627 --> 01:37:05,947
Speaker 7: At spots along the journey was more difficult because there

2009
01:37:06,027 --> 01:37:08,107
Speaker 7: might not have been a tomorrow here. If I didn't

2010
01:37:08,107 --> 01:37:10,347
Speaker 7: get this up and down and I last in the playoff,

2011
01:37:10,947 --> 01:37:13,067
Speaker 7: it would still be my best ever finished and I

2012
01:37:13,147 --> 01:37:17,387
Speaker 7: might have made, you know, seven hundred and fifty thousand,

2013
01:37:17,387 --> 01:37:19,147
Speaker 7: and I would have kept my card and I was

2014
01:37:19,187 --> 01:37:20,827
Speaker 7: on my way and all this sort of stuff. But

2015
01:37:20,867 --> 01:37:23,827
Speaker 7: when I walked down there, the line was really really good.

2016
01:37:25,787 --> 01:37:28,987
Speaker 7: There was a slight little puff of breeze back in

2017
01:37:29,067 --> 01:37:32,747
Speaker 7: my face, and I said, I've hit this. All I

2018
01:37:32,787 --> 01:37:35,387
Speaker 7: did was work on my short game. I love spending

2019
01:37:35,427 --> 01:37:39,147
Speaker 7: time just tucked away somewhere working on my short gam

2020
01:37:39,187 --> 01:37:41,067
Speaker 7: And I said, you've done this a thousand times, not

2021
01:37:41,547 --> 01:37:43,227
Speaker 7: thinking I'm go going to make this, but just get

2022
01:37:43,227 --> 01:37:44,867
Speaker 7: this ball up and down. And as soon as I

2023
01:37:44,907 --> 01:37:48,267
Speaker 7: hit it, I said, I've done it. Because I didn't

2024
01:37:48,267 --> 01:37:50,027
Speaker 7: expect it to go in, but I knew it wasn't

2025
01:37:50,067 --> 01:37:51,747
Speaker 7: going to be more than a couple of feet past,

2026
01:37:51,827 --> 01:37:55,667
Speaker 7: and lo and behold it dropped in. And then obviously pandemonium.

2027
01:37:55,707 --> 01:37:56,107
Speaker 12: Brilliant.

2028
01:37:56,267 --> 01:37:59,547
Speaker 2: So good gee, what a great description, getting goosebumps even

2029
01:37:59,547 --> 01:38:02,147
Speaker 2: listening to you talk about it. Defending champion Tiger Woods

2030
01:38:02,547 --> 01:38:04,787
Speaker 2: finished seven shots behind you in a tie for fourteenth,

2031
01:38:04,827 --> 01:38:07,467
Speaker 2: but then he handed over the try he and famously said,

2032
01:38:07,507 --> 01:38:09,827
Speaker 2: you're unbelievable. How cool the moment was that?

2033
01:38:10,947 --> 01:38:16,467
Speaker 7: Well, more famously, you know, after you finished the round,

2034
01:38:16,467 --> 01:38:18,467
Speaker 7: you've got to walk through the grandstand and go to

2035
01:38:18,507 --> 01:38:21,747
Speaker 7: the scorer's tent and validate it all and make sure

2036
01:38:21,787 --> 01:38:24,107
Speaker 7: it's so for sure. And my wife was Maureen. She

2037
01:38:24,307 --> 01:38:28,067
Speaker 7: was with me, uh, and so were they said, some

2038
01:38:28,147 --> 01:38:31,787
Speaker 7: of the red coats there, Brian joined the tournament director.

2039
01:38:31,827 --> 01:38:35,747
Speaker 7: He escorted me back, he said, look, the the commissioner

2040
01:38:35,787 --> 01:38:38,067
Speaker 7: will be on a little platform behind the green, and

2041
01:38:38,147 --> 01:38:41,907
Speaker 7: you're there's a trophy presentation with listen. I had no

2042
01:38:41,987 --> 01:38:44,427
Speaker 7: idea what what had just occurred. I had no idea

2043
01:38:44,507 --> 01:38:48,307
Speaker 7: how to walk and be present in a prize ceremony

2044
01:38:48,387 --> 01:38:52,547
Speaker 7: or anything like this. I had. I'm just I'm complete

2045
01:38:53,627 --> 01:38:56,467
Speaker 7: rookie and all this, you know, sort of theatrics and

2046
01:38:56,507 --> 01:38:58,987
Speaker 7: what was going on. And then so we Marian and

2047
01:38:58,987 --> 01:39:02,467
Speaker 7: I my wife walked through the the grand stand and

2048
01:39:02,547 --> 01:39:04,587
Speaker 7: I sort of peeked to my right and I looked

2049
01:39:04,587 --> 01:39:07,867
Speaker 7: over and I said what. I'm not going to use

2050
01:39:07,907 --> 01:39:10,107
Speaker 7: the explicator, but I said what? And then you know,

2051
01:39:10,187 --> 01:39:13,707
Speaker 7: what is Tiger Woods doing here? And then I'm like, okay,

2052
01:39:13,867 --> 01:39:17,067
Speaker 7: So where he's the defending championese Hold standing there with

2053
01:39:17,147 --> 01:39:20,547
Speaker 7: the crystal. Tim Vinchon's there. So we walk up under

2054
01:39:20,547 --> 01:39:22,707
Speaker 7: the podium and Tiger looks me in. I'd play with

2055
01:39:22,787 --> 01:39:26,347
Speaker 7: Tiger two weeks previous at Drau the event down there

2056
01:39:26,347 --> 01:39:29,787
Speaker 7: in Florida, in the final round and I paid well.

2057
01:39:29,827 --> 01:39:32,987
Speaker 7: I'd finished fifth and Tiger finished second and so you know,

2058
01:39:33,027 --> 01:39:35,267
Speaker 7: and Stevie Williams on the bag obviously, so there's a

2059
01:39:35,267 --> 01:39:38,387
Speaker 7: connection there. And so we walk up and Tiger looks

2060
01:39:38,387 --> 01:39:40,627
Speaker 7: at me and laughs and shakes his hand, and then

2061
01:39:40,667 --> 01:39:42,467
Speaker 7: Maureen's sitting right next to me, and I'm going to

2062
01:39:42,507 --> 01:39:43,947
Speaker 7: swear on the air. I hope you guys.

2063
01:39:43,707 --> 01:39:44,227
Speaker 2: Don't go on.

2064
01:39:44,467 --> 01:39:48,547
Speaker 7: Go on, so it's not that bad. But so I

2065
01:39:48,667 --> 01:39:50,947
Speaker 7: walk up there, shake Tiger's hand. He goes, you know,

2066
01:39:50,987 --> 01:39:54,507
Speaker 7: you're unbelievable whatever, and then he sort of moves over,

2067
01:39:54,707 --> 01:39:57,267
Speaker 7: slides over and looks down to Maureen and puts his

2068
01:39:57,347 --> 01:40:00,307
Speaker 7: hand out and he goes, nice to meet you on

2069
01:40:00,387 --> 01:40:02,987
Speaker 7: Tiger Woods. And Marian looks up and goes, yeah, no shit,

2070
01:40:03,587 --> 01:40:06,907
Speaker 7: So you know it was that was sort of and

2071
01:40:06,947 --> 01:40:09,827
Speaker 7: may we laugh about that? Yeah, of course we know

2072
01:40:09,867 --> 01:40:12,227
Speaker 7: your Tiger Woods. You don't really have to introduce stuff.

2073
01:40:12,947 --> 01:40:14,107
Speaker 11: So that was funny.

2074
01:40:14,227 --> 01:40:18,027
Speaker 7: And then you know all the other stuff that I've

2075
01:40:18,067 --> 01:40:20,547
Speaker 7: sat there for two and a half hours going to

2076
01:40:21,147 --> 01:40:24,307
Speaker 7: you know, we had the the ceremony on the back

2077
01:40:24,307 --> 01:40:25,947
Speaker 7: of the green, and then you have to talk to

2078
01:40:26,187 --> 01:40:28,547
Speaker 7: Mike Triko from NBC, and then you have to go

2079
01:40:28,627 --> 01:40:30,387
Speaker 7: into the media center, and then you have to go

2080
01:40:30,467 --> 01:40:32,347
Speaker 7: thank all the volunteers, and then you go into the

2081
01:40:32,347 --> 01:40:35,147
Speaker 7: locker room and thank the all the people that have

2082
01:40:35,227 --> 01:40:37,227
Speaker 7: helped you for the week. And then you go to

2083
01:40:37,267 --> 01:40:42,067
Speaker 7: a little whatever it may be with all of the

2084
01:40:42,147 --> 01:40:44,067
Speaker 7: Red coats who are the ones that sort of put

2085
01:40:44,147 --> 01:40:48,507
Speaker 7: on the show, and then and I am my brain,

2086
01:40:48,747 --> 01:40:52,187
Speaker 7: my mind is just I'm like, I'm really hungry. Actually

2087
01:40:52,187 --> 01:40:53,587
Speaker 7: I'd like to get out of here and go home,

2088
01:40:53,587 --> 01:40:55,707
Speaker 7: because that's normally what I did. It was actually happened

2089
01:40:55,707 --> 01:40:57,907
Speaker 7: on a Friday, not I've just missed the cart and

2090
01:40:57,947 --> 01:41:00,267
Speaker 7: go home and go to the next event. But I'm like,

2091
01:41:00,307 --> 01:41:01,507
Speaker 7: why the hell do I have to do all this

2092
01:41:01,587 --> 01:41:04,227
Speaker 7: stuff for the next three or four hours? Again I

2093
01:41:04,267 --> 01:41:08,067
Speaker 7: had I couldn't comprehend the magnitude of this event. And

2094
01:41:08,107 --> 01:41:09,747
Speaker 7: you know what, I want to talk to the people

2095
01:41:09,747 --> 01:41:12,347
Speaker 7: in the locker room that and the guys that helped

2096
01:41:12,907 --> 01:41:15,667
Speaker 7: shine our shoes and prepare, you know, have things ready

2097
01:41:15,747 --> 01:41:17,707
Speaker 7: for us. And then there was a there was a

2098
01:41:17,787 --> 01:41:20,787
Speaker 7: special champions locker room, Champion Zone. We walked in there

2099
01:41:20,787 --> 01:41:25,027
Speaker 7: and lit a little ceremony, so it was you know,

2100
01:41:25,467 --> 01:41:28,067
Speaker 7: literally I think that when I chipped in at eighteen,

2101
01:41:29,027 --> 01:41:31,347
Speaker 7: it was six thirty local and I didn't leave the

2102
01:41:31,347 --> 01:41:35,747
Speaker 7: golf course till ten o'clock, and I'm like, what just occurred?

2103
01:41:35,747 --> 01:41:38,227
Speaker 7: And Maury and I are sitting there just looking at

2104
01:41:38,267 --> 01:41:42,027
Speaker 7: each other, bewildered at what we accomplished, and we had

2105
01:41:42,067 --> 01:41:44,307
Speaker 7: no idea how our lives were about to change.

2106
01:41:45,507 --> 01:41:46,827
Speaker 2: How do you feel when you go back there?

2107
01:41:46,867 --> 01:41:55,587
Speaker 7: Now that's a loaded question, it's really it's really interesting.

2108
01:41:57,707 --> 01:42:03,587
Speaker 7: Like you said, it's twenty three years I played, you know,

2109
01:42:03,707 --> 01:42:06,347
Speaker 7: so it was a five year exemption. So the next

2110
01:42:06,947 --> 01:42:09,467
Speaker 7: three years that I played the next five years as

2111
01:42:09,467 --> 01:42:12,227
Speaker 7: poorly as you could ever imagine, completely lost my way.

2112
01:42:13,307 --> 01:42:17,227
Speaker 7: I was in the wilderness. So I left, I quit

2113
01:42:17,347 --> 01:42:20,507
Speaker 7: plan and left the tour at the end of two

2114
01:42:20,547 --> 01:42:24,307
Speaker 7: thousand and seven, And fortunate enough to I still loved

2115
01:42:24,307 --> 01:42:27,707
Speaker 7: the game, and I really appreciated what the game had

2116
01:42:27,747 --> 01:42:30,587
Speaker 7: allowed us and the blessings that I went and played

2117
01:42:30,707 --> 01:42:35,707
Speaker 7: Open Championships with Nick Foudert, Miarfield Up and Sevi Balistereos

2118
01:42:35,787 --> 01:42:41,587
Speaker 7: walked with me for nine holes that trooon after I'd

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Speaker 7: helped them in the gym the day before. But so

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Speaker 7: I would be all of these incredible experiences that were

2121
01:42:51,667 --> 01:42:56,307
Speaker 7: just you could they were sort of parts of dreams

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01:42:56,347 --> 01:42:59,027
Speaker 7: that you could never imagine happened. So then I got

2123
01:42:59,027 --> 01:43:01,867
Speaker 7: into television in two thousand and eight, and then I

2124
01:43:01,907 --> 01:43:04,347
Speaker 7: went back to the players doing television, and I've been

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01:43:04,387 --> 01:43:09,467
Speaker 7: doing it every year since twenty ten. So really my

2126
01:43:09,627 --> 01:43:15,547
Speaker 7: experience in my lifetime of memories started in two So again,

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01:43:15,907 --> 01:43:19,507
Speaker 7: literally I've been part of the fabric of this event

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Speaker 7: for nearly twenty five years, a quarter of a century.

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01:43:23,907 --> 01:43:27,107
Speaker 7: I was so, yeah, I was so I was such

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01:43:27,107 --> 01:43:31,187
Speaker 7: an unheralded winner, and I'm sort of the outlier in

2131
01:43:31,227 --> 01:43:33,427
Speaker 7: the in the wrong direction if you look at the

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01:43:34,067 --> 01:43:37,427
Speaker 7: role the role call of champions here, you know, if

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01:43:37,467 --> 01:43:41,147
Speaker 7: you think Jack Nicholas is one in Treveno and Floyd

2134
01:43:41,307 --> 01:43:46,627
Speaker 7: and Norman Price and Elkington and the great, my name

2135
01:43:46,667 --> 01:43:49,507
Speaker 7: doesn't belong there. And I think sometimes when I go back,

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01:43:50,467 --> 01:43:54,667
Speaker 7: I'm so thankful and appreciative and all that, but sometimes

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01:43:54,707 --> 01:43:58,067
Speaker 7: I just don't feel like I should be part of

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01:43:57,187 --> 01:44:00,387
Speaker 7: the fiber and the fabric of the event because my

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01:44:00,507 --> 01:44:06,827
Speaker 7: name sort of you'll see graphics throughout tomorrow, as you know,

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01:44:06,907 --> 01:44:10,667
Speaker 7: maybe even Bud Cawley or Alex Smally, they'll say that

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01:44:10,747 --> 01:44:14,027
Speaker 7: the guy with the I don't want to say worse.

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01:44:14,147 --> 01:44:16,947
Speaker 7: But let's say the lowest world ranking to win the

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01:44:16,987 --> 01:44:20,427
Speaker 7: Players champ was me at two thousand, At two hundred

2144
01:44:20,427 --> 01:44:22,827
Speaker 7: and third in the world. You know, the greats of

2145
01:44:22,867 --> 01:44:25,587
Speaker 7: this game, the best of the best, have won this event.

2146
01:44:25,667 --> 01:44:29,827
Speaker 7: So I'm sort of the sore thumb there, and not

2147
01:44:29,947 --> 01:44:34,707
Speaker 7: in a negative way, but to be one hundred percent honest,

2148
01:44:34,747 --> 01:44:39,267
Speaker 7: I'd rather watch this from Afar. I've had my time here.

2149
01:44:39,507 --> 01:44:43,787
Speaker 7: I'm so thankful that I'm part of the event, but

2150
01:44:43,907 --> 01:44:47,067
Speaker 7: I think at some point it's it's time to, you know,

2151
01:44:47,107 --> 01:44:49,427
Speaker 7: and I'm so thankful to be part of television, but

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01:44:49,467 --> 01:44:54,467
Speaker 7: I think that nowadays. I walked around and drove around

2153
01:44:54,467 --> 01:45:00,667
Speaker 7: here preparing for this week for television, and it's I

2154
01:45:00,667 --> 01:45:03,267
Speaker 7: don't really know. It's interesting. I'm trying to come up

2155
01:45:03,267 --> 01:45:08,147
Speaker 7: with the correct words to describe it, but I just

2156
01:45:08,587 --> 01:45:10,787
Speaker 7: it'd be nice to just step away and just watch

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01:45:10,827 --> 01:45:13,147
Speaker 7: from Afar and be thankful for what I did accomplish

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01:45:13,307 --> 01:45:14,347
Speaker 7: twenty three years ago.

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Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you from the list and feedback

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Speaker 2: we're getting, Craig, that you absolutely belong on that leaderboard.

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01:45:19,347 --> 01:45:21,547
Speaker 2: I know what you're saying. I know you know that

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01:45:21,747 --> 01:45:23,987
Speaker 2: on that board of champions, I know exactly what you're saying,

2163
01:45:24,347 --> 01:45:27,907
Speaker 2: and you've articularated yourself beautifully, but yeah, I don't think

2164
01:45:27,907 --> 01:45:30,227
Speaker 2: you'll get too many people agreeing with that particular part

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Speaker 2: of it. Craig, mate, it's been such a wonderful wander

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01:45:34,147 --> 01:45:36,467
Speaker 2: down memory lane with you. Thank you for being so

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01:45:36,587 --> 01:45:39,547
Speaker 2: generous with your time, and you know we'll always have

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Speaker 2: two thousand and two and I know a whole legion

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01:45:42,107 --> 01:45:45,707
Speaker 2: of golf fans still look back particularly fondly on that

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01:45:46,227 --> 01:45:48,107
Speaker 2: on that day in March of two thousand and two.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for reliving up with us.

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01:45:50,627 --> 01:45:53,627
Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks again. It's good to be you know, you

2173
01:45:53,707 --> 01:45:56,867
Speaker 7: think of Subab, you know, winning an Open championship and

2174
01:45:56,987 --> 01:46:00,427
Speaker 7: Cambo winning a US Open, so you know, Frank Nobolo

2175
01:46:00,467 --> 01:46:02,947
Speaker 7: accomplished so much and obviously Grant Wait as well. But

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01:46:03,027 --> 01:46:04,947
Speaker 7: just to be part of the Kiwi legion that has

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01:46:04,987 --> 01:46:08,467
Speaker 7: had some success on the PGA two, I think that's

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01:46:08,507 --> 01:46:10,587
Speaker 7: what I'm most proud of. But listen, thanks thanks for

2179
01:46:10,667 --> 01:46:13,307
Speaker 7: letting me join you guys and wander down memory lane

2180
01:46:13,387 --> 01:46:13,867
Speaker 7: a little bit.

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Speaker 2: All the best to you, Craig, Thanks again.

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Speaker 6: Craig Perks, thank you, Thank you.

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01:46:17,787 --> 01:46:21,067
Speaker 2: Players Championship winner two thousand and two. Joining us from

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01:46:21,067 --> 01:46:23,507
Speaker 2: the course at which he achieved that wonderful feet Back

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Speaker 2: in two thousand and two, half past two on NEWSTALKSB,

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Speaker 2: We're back in a moment.

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Speaker 1: Love Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport Weekend

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01:46:31,627 --> 01:46:35,667
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Hyne and GJ. Gunnos, New Zealand's most

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01:46:35,707 --> 01:46:37,027
Speaker 1: trusted home builder News.

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Speaker 2: Talks V twenty seven Away from three. Want to listen

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Speaker 2: to Craig Perks if you're on text here, Kevin says,

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Speaker 2: Craig Perks, great interview, Poney from Ian Craig. If you

2193
01:46:45,147 --> 01:46:47,987
Speaker 2: ever changed career, you'd be a great storyteller. That was fantastic.

2194
01:46:47,987 --> 01:46:50,387
Speaker 2: I could listen all day from Mike, I love this interview.

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01:46:50,467 --> 01:46:52,467
Speaker 2: Craig Perk's a leegend, brings it all back, and he

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01:46:52,507 --> 01:46:54,707
Speaker 2: speaks so well, doesn't he just doesn't?

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Speaker 6: He just you?

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Speaker 2: What a What an honor to listen to Craig Perks.

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01:46:57,627 --> 01:47:01,707
Speaker 2: Reminis about two thousand and two Pakistana nine for three

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01:47:02,227 --> 01:47:05,387
Speaker 2: batting first against New Zealand at Agloval acceususally better than

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Speaker 2: they were. They were actually three down for one run,

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Speaker 2: So this is quite a good partnership. By comparison, Kyle

2203
01:47:12,187 --> 01:47:14,867
Speaker 2: Jamison's got two for two. Jacob Duffy has the other wicket.

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01:47:14,987 --> 01:47:18,347
Speaker 2: Pakistan nine for three after four overs batting first against

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Speaker 2: New Zealand in the first of five to twenty internationals.

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Speaker 2: Got to get another breakaway. When we come back, we

2207
01:47:23,067 --> 01:47:25,387
Speaker 2: go stateside, catching you up on everything to do with

2208
01:47:25,427 --> 01:47:28,787
Speaker 2: American sport. Our man Leon Busby on Weekend Sport, after This.

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Speaker 1: The Big Issues on and after Fields Call Oh eight

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Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty Weekends Forward with Jason.

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Speaker 2: Paine and GJ.

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Speaker 1: Gunnerhomes New Zealand's first trusted home, Milder News Talks, Abby.

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Speaker 2: News Talks hereb and Weekend Sport What are We twenty

2214
01:47:44,267 --> 01:47:46,227
Speaker 2: three to three a regular feature on the show. This

2215
01:47:46,267 --> 01:47:49,027
Speaker 2: ship is going to be state side as we keep

2216
01:47:49,107 --> 01:47:50,787
Speaker 2: you up to date on a regular basis with the

2217
01:47:50,787 --> 01:47:54,627
Speaker 2: big sporting stories coming out of the United States of America.

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01:47:54,707 --> 01:47:58,267
Speaker 2: Leon Busby is our state side man. He's with us now.

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Speaker 21: Thanks for joining Usleon, Yeah, Pine, it's great to be

2220
01:48:00,827 --> 01:48:03,027
Speaker 21: back on your show now. Appreciate you making the time

2221
01:48:03,067 --> 01:48:04,827
Speaker 21: for me. We've got a lot to cover, so let's

2222
01:48:04,827 --> 01:48:05,587
Speaker 21: get straight into.

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01:48:05,467 --> 01:48:09,707
Speaker 2: Today that mate, Look, you're sounding more like me trying

2224
01:48:09,747 --> 01:48:10,587
Speaker 2: to get things going.

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Speaker 13: I love it.

2226
01:48:11,067 --> 01:48:14,867
Speaker 2: Let's start okay with the NBA around what fifteen sixteen

2227
01:48:14,907 --> 01:48:18,227
Speaker 2: games to go in the regular season before the playoffs.

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01:48:18,307 --> 01:48:22,867
Speaker 2: Who's standing out in each of the Western and Eastern conferences?

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Speaker 13: Yes?

2230
01:48:23,627 --> 01:48:27,067
Speaker 21: So in the association. In the East, the Cleveland Cavaliers

2231
01:48:27,067 --> 01:48:30,067
Speaker 21: are dominating. Have the best record on the NBA. They're

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01:48:30,107 --> 01:48:32,587
Speaker 21: fifty six and ten and are on a sixteen game

2233
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Speaker 21: win stream. Second behind them are the defending champion Boston

2234
01:48:36,347 --> 01:48:39,827
Speaker 21: Celtic for the forty eight and nineteen record. Now, over

2235
01:48:39,867 --> 01:48:44,947
Speaker 21: in the West, the ok oc sorry Oklahoma City Thunder

2236
01:48:45,107 --> 01:48:47,747
Speaker 21: have a fifty four and twelve records, so they're about

2237
01:48:47,787 --> 01:48:50,307
Speaker 21: treen wins better than the second place Denver NUGA two

2238
01:48:50,307 --> 01:48:53,747
Speaker 21: on forty three and thirty four. So, although the Cavaliers

2239
01:48:53,747 --> 01:48:56,107
Speaker 21: and Thunder will most likely finish top seeds of their

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Speaker 21: conferences with home court advalanced throughout the postseason, there are

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Speaker 21: a lot of lingering doubts whether they can win it

2242
01:49:02,467 --> 01:49:05,587
Speaker 21: or due to their lack of playoff experience. The huge

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01:49:05,587 --> 01:49:08,947
Speaker 21: difference between the regular postseason, as they'll both soon find out.

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01:49:09,707 --> 01:49:12,667
Speaker 2: Which is the stronger conference overall? Leon If you look

2245
01:49:12,667 --> 01:49:15,667
Speaker 2: at the you know the overall strength of the East

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01:49:15,787 --> 01:49:19,387
Speaker 2: and the West, which is more competitive, which is stronger.

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01:49:20,427 --> 01:49:23,787
Speaker 21: Yeah, you'd have to say that. Yeah, the West is

2248
01:49:23,827 --> 01:49:26,947
Speaker 21: probably more top heavy than the East, so they've got

2249
01:49:27,147 --> 01:49:30,107
Speaker 21: probably more content. It's going to be a real battle

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Speaker 21: between those top teams to get through to the conference final.

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Speaker 21: But yeah, if you look at the Eastern Conference, Boston

2252
01:49:37,707 --> 01:49:40,227
Speaker 21: and Clear ran a differently blight years ahead of all

2253
01:49:40,267 --> 01:49:42,387
Speaker 21: the other teams. So it's it's pretty likely that those

2254
01:49:42,427 --> 01:49:43,947
Speaker 21: two are going to meet in the conference finals.

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Speaker 2: All right, We'll look forward to seeing what plays out there.

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Speaker 2: Want to add off the court, there's always some storylines

2257
01:49:48,387 --> 01:49:50,187
Speaker 2: happening off the court and all the sport we talk,

2258
01:49:50,667 --> 01:49:53,307
Speaker 2: what about basketball? What are the big off court stories

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01:49:53,307 --> 01:49:53,787
Speaker 2: at the moment?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, So in the MVP rate, okay, see point guard

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Speaker 21: Shy Gilder Alexander the Clear odds on favorite winner's first

2262
01:50:01,067 --> 01:50:05,347
Speaker 21: major award for MVP despite three time winner Nikolay Yokochov

2263
01:50:06,387 --> 01:50:09,827
Speaker 21: Nuggets putting up historical numbers. So rounding out the top five,

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01:50:09,867 --> 01:50:12,907
Speaker 21: we've got Giannath and its Compo of the Milwaukee Bucks,

2265
01:50:12,947 --> 01:50:16,227
Speaker 21: Jetson Tatum of the Celtics, and Karl Anthony Towns of

2266
01:50:16,227 --> 01:50:17,827
Speaker 21: the New York. So there's been a lot of debate

2267
01:50:17,867 --> 01:50:22,387
Speaker 21: around that that even though they call them SGA had

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01:50:22,467 --> 01:50:25,307
Speaker 21: put up some really good numbers this year, Jocus should

2269
01:50:25,307 --> 01:50:30,547
Speaker 21: really be the MVP winner even though his team doesn't

2270
01:50:30,587 --> 01:50:32,187
Speaker 21: have a bit of record. But so there's a lot

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Speaker 21: of debate around that argument as well.

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Speaker 2: And what about load management the player participation policy. I've

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Speaker 2: seen this talked about about in recent times.

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Speaker 21: Yes, so this is a bit of a slightly negative

2275
01:50:45,147 --> 01:50:47,747
Speaker 21: note in terms of the NBA. The fun offs is

2276
01:50:47,787 --> 01:50:51,187
Speaker 21: also cracking down on teams that are blatantly violating the

2277
01:50:51,187 --> 01:50:55,267
Speaker 21: player Participation Policy, more commonly referred to as load management.

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01:50:55,267 --> 01:50:57,587
Speaker 21: So a number of teams are currently being investigated for

2279
01:50:57,627 --> 01:51:01,227
Speaker 21: sitting star players even though they're not injured, denying pain

2280
01:51:01,347 --> 01:51:03,707
Speaker 21: fans opportunity to watch their favorite players up place in

2281
01:51:03,787 --> 01:51:06,987
Speaker 21: attending games. So this is unfortunately part of the game

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01:51:07,027 --> 01:51:07,867
Speaker 21: in recent years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what a shame. Just before we move on a producer, Andy,

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Speaker 2: as you know, I was a big Pelicans fan. They're

2285
01:51:13,347 --> 01:51:15,067
Speaker 2: not going to be in the playoff picture. I think

2286
01:51:15,107 --> 01:51:17,667
Speaker 2: the record's eighteen and forty nine, so that's not playoff

2287
01:51:17,667 --> 01:51:21,667
Speaker 2: basketball by any stretch. But are they coming to Melbourne?

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 11: We are so.

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Speaker 21: News earlier came out this week that the New Orleans

2291
01:51:26,187 --> 01:51:28,507
Speaker 21: Pelicans will be heading head in Melbourne in October for

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Speaker 21: a historic series of games against Melbourne United and the

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Speaker 21: Southeast Melbourne Phoenix. This announcement was on the back of

2294
01:51:35,547 --> 01:51:37,787
Speaker 21: news at the NFL and NFL will also be playing

2295
01:51:37,827 --> 01:51:41,467
Speaker 21: games in Melbourne. So then, organized are hoping that New

2296
01:51:41,587 --> 01:51:44,307
Speaker 21: Orleans star Zion Williamson will be healthy and make the

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01:51:44,307 --> 01:51:47,667
Speaker 21: trip down on. Since entering the league, he has unfortunately

2298
01:51:47,747 --> 01:51:49,987
Speaker 21: been plagued by injury, but will undoubtedly be the main

2299
01:51:49,987 --> 01:51:52,907
Speaker 21: attraction for a Pelicans. So just the heads up last,

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01:51:52,947 --> 01:51:54,747
Speaker 21: and I'm sure you know that a certain producers will

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01:51:54,787 --> 01:51:57,507
Speaker 21: be submitting a red form sometimes seen to coincide around

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Speaker 21: that time.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I will take it under consideration, Leon, I'll take

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Speaker 2: it under consideration. Can we stay with basketball because March

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01:52:05,267 --> 01:52:10,627
Speaker 2: Madness is upon u S NCAA basketball College basketball for

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Speaker 2: those who are unfamiliar with it's starting on Tuesday to

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01:52:13,467 --> 01:52:16,827
Speaker 2: find the top men's and women's college teams. First of all,

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01:52:16,947 --> 01:52:20,107
Speaker 2: how big has March Madness become.

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Speaker 4: Here in the States.

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Speaker 21: It's huge. Most people that obviously a lot of people

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01:52:25,587 --> 01:52:27,467
Speaker 21: that went to there certain colleges they call them that

2312
01:52:27,547 --> 01:52:31,667
Speaker 21: alma mater really connected with their schools. I wanted to

2313
01:52:31,907 --> 01:52:33,787
Speaker 21: comment on this, but yesterday I just want to make

2314
01:52:33,827 --> 01:52:36,587
Speaker 21: a quick comment about I knew I knew a Tate

2315
01:52:36,707 --> 01:52:38,947
Speaker 21: Jones and how he did a fantastic job breaking down

2316
01:52:38,987 --> 01:52:41,787
Speaker 21: the competition the young Kiwi boy there. I was really

2317
01:52:41,787 --> 01:52:44,267
Speaker 21: impressed by the the in depth knowledge of the college game.

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01:52:44,307 --> 01:52:46,027
Speaker 21: But even more so if it's great work, ethic and

2319
01:52:46,107 --> 01:52:49,187
Speaker 21: humility which will undoubtedly take him fin in his career.

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01:52:49,267 --> 01:52:52,227
Speaker 21: So I've won look forward to following his career believing

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Speaker 21: I feel like a lot more of your listeners will

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01:52:54,107 --> 01:52:57,027
Speaker 21: be back in UC San Diego. That they already didn't

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01:52:57,027 --> 01:52:59,627
Speaker 21: have a teen in NCAA tournament, so go to Trentons.

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01:53:00,027 --> 01:53:03,107
Speaker 21: I also just throwminded the audience pointy that much madness

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01:53:03,107 --> 01:53:06,827
Speaker 21: referred to the NCAA Division One men's and women's basketball

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01:53:06,907 --> 01:53:10,427
Speaker 21: championship tournaments. So in recent years, the phenomenal rights and

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01:53:10,547 --> 01:53:14,427
Speaker 21: influence of one Caplan Clark is how popularized women's basketball,

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Speaker 21: a trend known as the Caplin Clark Effect. It's worth

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01:53:17,747 --> 01:53:20,427
Speaker 21: mentioning that name, image and likeness more commonly referred to

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Speaker 21: as nil and the student transfer portal had completely changed

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01:53:24,067 --> 01:53:27,547
Speaker 21: the college forty landscape exponentially in recent years, especially in

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01:53:27,587 --> 01:53:32,267
Speaker 21: regards to basketball. So both NCAA tournaments consist of sixty

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01:53:32,267 --> 01:53:35,107
Speaker 21: four teams for the women and sixty eight teams for

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01:53:35,187 --> 01:53:37,667
Speaker 21: the men, and they're known for their thrilling, single elimination

2335
01:53:37,787 --> 01:53:41,107
Speaker 21: format where teams compete to determine the national champion and

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01:53:41,147 --> 01:53:44,627
Speaker 21: collegiate basketball. Millions of Americans watch their college teams on

2337
01:53:44,667 --> 01:53:47,027
Speaker 21: the biggest stage and take part in what's known as

2338
01:53:47,027 --> 01:53:48,987
Speaker 21: the Bracket Challenge, trying to pick the teams they think

2339
01:53:48,987 --> 01:53:51,987
Speaker 21: will advance the Street sixteen, the Elite eight, to the

2340
01:53:52,027 --> 01:53:54,907
Speaker 21: Final four, and the eventual winners. The event itself as

2341
01:53:54,907 --> 01:53:57,507
Speaker 21: a rich history, having started way back in nineteen thirty

2342
01:53:57,587 --> 01:54:00,747
Speaker 21: nine and has become a significant cultural phenomenon in the

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01:54:00,827 --> 01:54:01,827
Speaker 21: US and now globally.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I know it's big news in our house.

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01:54:03,827 --> 01:54:06,187
Speaker 2: My son Johnny is going to be glued to March madness,

2346
01:54:06,747 --> 01:54:09,227
Speaker 2: as are many around the world. So looking forward to that.

2347
01:54:09,507 --> 01:54:12,907
Speaker 2: Can we move to Major League Baseball? The new season

2348
01:54:13,587 --> 01:54:15,787
Speaker 2: is almost upon us. In fact, I think it starts

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01:54:15,787 --> 01:54:18,947
Speaker 2: in the weak ahead. Any big preseason stories from Major

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01:54:19,027 --> 01:54:19,747
Speaker 2: League Baseball?

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01:54:20,667 --> 01:54:23,027
Speaker 21: Yes, so the season opener is taking pat in Tokyo,

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01:54:23,067 --> 01:54:25,227
Speaker 21: which they've done over the last few years. That's only

2353
01:54:25,347 --> 01:54:28,347
Speaker 21: a matter of days away. Spring trainings wrapped up, and

2354
01:54:28,427 --> 01:54:30,987
Speaker 21: the current World Series champion LA Dodgers are taken on

2355
01:54:31,027 --> 01:54:34,227
Speaker 21: the Chicago Cubs and a double header. Now, the Dodgers

2356
01:54:34,267 --> 01:54:36,947
Speaker 21: spent a boatload of money bossing their roster, which is

2357
01:54:37,787 --> 01:54:41,227
Speaker 21: already immensely strong in the off season, are like clearly

2358
01:54:41,227 --> 01:54:44,507
Speaker 21: the favorites to repeat. Now they're widely considered the so

2359
01:54:44,667 --> 01:54:46,867
Speaker 21: called villains of basketball because they have all this money

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01:54:46,867 --> 01:54:49,627
Speaker 21: and they're just throwing it around. Willy Lilly, their closest

2361
01:54:49,707 --> 01:54:52,667
Speaker 21: rivalry they've beaten the World Series. The New York Yankees

2362
01:54:52,707 --> 01:54:54,947
Speaker 21: are already in trouble though, even before the first pitch

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01:54:55,027 --> 01:54:57,627
Speaker 21: of the season is thrown. The Bronx Bombers have a

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01:54:57,667 --> 01:55:00,067
Speaker 21: number of their key starting players injured or even out

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01:55:00,107 --> 01:55:03,187
Speaker 21: for the whole season. It's a grueling schedule of one

2366
01:55:03,267 --> 01:55:06,227
Speaker 21: hundred and sixty two regular season games. It really is

2367
01:55:06,427 --> 01:55:08,667
Speaker 21: war of attrition before the playoffs even roll around, so

2368
01:55:08,747 --> 01:55:12,147
Speaker 21: maintaining their healthy team is paramount for success in the sport,

2369
01:55:12,347 --> 01:55:14,707
Speaker 21: and other teams to keep an eye on. The serious

2370
01:55:14,707 --> 01:55:18,827
Speaker 21: contenders are the Atlanta Brays, New York Mets, Philadelphia Phillis,

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01:55:18,867 --> 01:55:22,027
Speaker 21: Baltimore Orioles, Houston Afhirt and the San Diego Padres.

2372
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Speaker 2: Looking forward to a new season of MLB underway soon.

2373
01:55:25,547 --> 01:55:27,427
Speaker 2: And can we finish with any can we finish with

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01:55:27,547 --> 01:55:32,067
Speaker 2: NFL that is obviously in its off season, any big

2375
01:55:32,107 --> 01:55:36,347
Speaker 2: stories around trades or contract extension? Free agency?

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01:55:36,507 --> 01:55:39,467
Speaker 21: Leon, Yeah, definitely, there's some big stories that I'm going

2377
01:55:39,507 --> 01:55:42,627
Speaker 21: to share with the audience right now. Free agency. It's

2378
01:55:42,667 --> 01:55:44,547
Speaker 21: fun and sent it with some recent big moves, so

2379
01:55:44,627 --> 01:55:46,867
Speaker 21: the quarterback carousel.

2380
01:55:46,427 --> 01:55:49,107
Speaker 4: Begain with Super Bowl winner Matthew Stafford.

2381
01:55:48,667 --> 01:55:51,267
Speaker 21: Of the La Rams re signing with the franchise despite

2382
01:55:51,307 --> 01:55:53,627
Speaker 21: a number of other big offers on the table. So

2383
01:55:53,787 --> 01:55:55,627
Speaker 21: he was the first Domino to fall an e hectic

2384
01:55:55,707 --> 01:55:58,667
Speaker 21: free agency period. In the Minnesota Vikings, you I know

2385
01:55:58,707 --> 01:56:02,307
Speaker 21: you're done for Lois Justin traded their quarterback Sam Donald

2386
01:56:02,347 --> 01:56:05,827
Speaker 21: to the Seattle Seahawks after Korea BS season last year.

2387
01:56:05,907 --> 01:56:08,147
Speaker 21: Donald the three year deal with one hundred and ten

2388
01:56:08,267 --> 01:56:11,187
Speaker 21: million with fifty five million guaranteed. It is a gamble

2389
01:56:11,187 --> 01:56:12,227
Speaker 21: of thoughts for Seattle.

2390
01:56:12,707 --> 01:56:13,147
Speaker 4: Give them the.

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Speaker 21: Statu of their office and line and a new offensive

2392
01:56:15,267 --> 01:56:19,467
Speaker 21: coordinator some other big trades or Super Bowl winning defensive tackled.

2393
01:56:19,507 --> 01:56:22,507
Speaker 21: Milton Williams, who are the major fact in Super Bowl

2394
01:56:22,587 --> 01:56:25,067
Speaker 21: fifty nine, traded from the Philadelphia Eagles to the New

2395
01:56:25,147 --> 01:56:28,267
Speaker 21: England Pagherriod. He agreed to terms on a four year

2396
01:56:28,347 --> 01:56:31,187
Speaker 21: deal with one hundred and four million, including a twenty

2397
01:56:31,187 --> 01:56:34,587
Speaker 21: four million signing bonus, sixty three million guaranteed and an

2398
01:56:34,627 --> 01:56:37,267
Speaker 21: average annual based salary of twenty six million. As you

2399
01:56:37,307 --> 01:56:39,307
Speaker 21: can see, point of these numbers are staggering if we

2400
01:56:39,347 --> 01:56:43,067
Speaker 21: put that into context. Currently, the fifty highest paid players

2401
01:56:43,067 --> 01:56:46,987
Speaker 21: in the NRL colectively earn forty five million Australian dollars,

2402
01:56:47,027 --> 01:56:50,227
Speaker 21: which equates to about twenty nine million dollars US. It's

2403
01:56:50,267 --> 01:56:52,147
Speaker 21: almost as if the NFL are printing their own money.

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01:56:52,147 --> 01:56:53,467
Speaker 2: It's crazy incredible.

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01:56:53,907 --> 01:56:54,147
Speaker 20: Yeah.

2406
01:56:54,187 --> 01:56:55,827
Speaker 21: So what probably one of the biggest stories to come

2407
01:56:55,827 --> 01:56:59,587
Speaker 21: out of the NFL was Butffalo Bill's quarterback and regular

2408
01:56:59,627 --> 01:57:03,147
Speaker 21: season MVP, Josh Allen. God has bagged that people use

2409
01:57:03,187 --> 01:57:05,667
Speaker 21: that phrase to refer to, you know, people getting paid.

2410
01:57:06,467 --> 01:57:08,987
Speaker 21: He signed a sixty extension on a record sitting deal.

2411
01:57:09,787 --> 01:57:12,347
Speaker 21: They get this, He'll receive three hundred and thirty million,

2412
01:57:12,427 --> 01:57:15,587
Speaker 21: including a record two hundred and fifty million guarantees and

2413
01:57:15,627 --> 01:57:17,867
Speaker 21: he's not even the highest paid player in the league

2414
01:57:18,027 --> 01:57:20,027
Speaker 21: that his numbers are staggering in a sport that is

2415
01:57:20,067 --> 01:57:23,747
Speaker 21: a hard salary cap and true free agency, the NFL

2416
01:57:23,827 --> 01:57:26,067
Speaker 21: has been structured in a way towards parody compared to

2417
01:57:26,107 --> 01:57:29,227
Speaker 21: any of US professional sports league, so they sort of

2418
01:57:29,227 --> 01:57:32,507
Speaker 21: money being thrown around as unprecedented. Finally, the betting market

2419
01:57:32,507 --> 01:57:36,187
Speaker 21: has already released the odds for Super Bowl sixty no surprises.

2420
01:57:36,227 --> 01:57:40,507
Speaker 21: Defending champion Philadelphia Eagles are clear favorites after they dismantled

2421
01:57:40,507 --> 01:57:43,107
Speaker 21: candidsit in the Reefs and Super Bowl. The Chiefs are

2422
01:57:43,107 --> 01:57:46,667
Speaker 21: second favorite SIS, ahead of the Baltimore Ravens, Bills and

2423
01:57:46,787 --> 01:57:47,627
Speaker 21: Detroit Lyons.

2424
01:57:48,267 --> 01:57:50,667
Speaker 2: So much going on state side, Leon, Thank you so

2425
01:57:50,747 --> 01:57:53,067
Speaker 2: much for your comprehensive rap of it all. We look

2426
01:57:53,107 --> 01:57:55,627
Speaker 2: forward to catching up regularly across the year here on

2427
01:57:55,667 --> 01:57:58,627
Speaker 2: Weekend Sport. Always some terrific storylines coming out of the

2428
01:57:58,747 --> 01:58:01,547
Speaker 2: United States, and we look forward to you keeping us

2429
01:58:01,627 --> 01:58:02,547
Speaker 2: up to date with all of them.

2430
01:58:02,587 --> 01:58:04,867
Speaker 21: Thanks for your time, Thank you for having me on today,

2431
01:58:04,947 --> 01:58:06,467
Speaker 21: Jess and I look forward to doing it again and

2432
01:58:07,067 --> 01:58:07,507
Speaker 21: cheers mate.

2433
01:58:07,587 --> 01:58:09,507
Speaker 2: Now, good on you, Leon. Thanks to day. Leon Busby

2434
01:58:09,507 --> 01:58:12,307
Speaker 2: stateside a big part of our weekend sport agenda for

2435
01:58:12,387 --> 01:58:16,187
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. It is twelve away from three. Just

2436
01:58:16,267 --> 01:58:19,267
Speaker 2: quick check on the cricket where Pakistan has lost a

2437
01:58:19,307 --> 01:58:22,987
Speaker 2: fourth wicket fourteen for four in the seventh over, so

2438
01:58:23,107 --> 01:58:26,347
Speaker 2: not going particularly while for Pakistan at Hackley Oval. Twelve

2439
01:58:26,387 --> 01:58:27,507
Speaker 2: to three News talks eb.

2440
01:58:28,987 --> 01:58:31,627
Speaker 1: Let's scoop from the track, field and the court on

2441
01:58:31,787 --> 01:58:35,187
Speaker 1: your home of sport weekends for It with Jason vine

2442
01:58:35,387 --> 01:58:36,547
Speaker 1: Youth Talks MB.

2443
01:58:36,587 --> 01:58:40,067
Speaker 2: Nine to three. Now Rugby Direct is your podcast for

2444
01:58:40,187 --> 01:58:42,627
Speaker 2: all things rugby. It always comes out on a Monday

2445
01:58:42,867 --> 01:58:45,987
Speaker 2: and there will be a normal episode tomorrow, but then

2446
01:58:46,107 --> 01:58:49,747
Speaker 2: a very special episode will be released at five o'clock

2447
01:58:49,867 --> 01:58:53,827
Speaker 2: on Tuesday morning. Elliott Smith and Liam Napier with CEO

2448
01:58:53,867 --> 01:58:57,027
Speaker 2: of New Zealand Rugby Mark Robinson and All Blacks coach

2449
01:58:57,187 --> 01:59:02,067
Speaker 2: Scott Robertson discussing various issues including Jordy Barrett playing in Ireland.

2450
01:59:02,787 --> 01:59:05,667
Speaker 14: Raizy, You've them obviously been your One of your lines

2451
01:59:05,707 --> 01:59:07,947
Speaker 14: has been keeping eyes open mind. Where are you at

2452
01:59:07,987 --> 01:59:09,987
Speaker 14: at the moment with the soligibility saga?

2453
01:59:10,067 --> 01:59:12,107
Speaker 15: Yeah, look I had a first a year, you know,

2454
01:59:12,147 --> 01:59:13,307
Speaker 15: so I said I have a year to look at

2455
01:59:13,307 --> 01:59:15,507
Speaker 15: it and where I stand. And the first thing is,

2456
01:59:18,227 --> 01:59:21,187
Speaker 15: you know, my intentions for the comment was is it

2457
01:59:21,187 --> 01:59:23,907
Speaker 15: fit for purpose still? You know currently in this model

2458
01:59:23,947 --> 01:59:29,547
Speaker 15: where we're sitting, you know, globally and internally, and one

2459
01:59:29,587 --> 01:59:31,747
Speaker 15: of my jobs is to make sure that the pathways

2460
01:59:31,787 --> 01:59:33,947
Speaker 15: is strong so we can keep it, canue a flow

2461
01:59:33,987 --> 01:59:37,107
Speaker 15: of quality players enjoy the game and also want to

2462
01:59:37,107 --> 01:59:41,947
Speaker 15: come through and be professional rugby players and aspiration. So

2463
01:59:42,467 --> 01:59:44,387
Speaker 15: we'll talk a little bit later on around the pathway

2464
01:59:44,427 --> 01:59:47,507
Speaker 15: stuff that we're doing. But look, look, I understand how

2465
01:59:47,547 --> 01:59:50,507
Speaker 15: important is and now I probably got more insight around

2466
01:59:50,547 --> 01:59:56,707
Speaker 15: the flexibility there is. There isn't the current regulations. You know,

2467
01:59:56,747 --> 02:00:00,427
Speaker 15: it is fit for purpose. There is a little bit

2468
02:00:00,427 --> 02:00:02,107
Speaker 15: of flexibility there. And I just want to give you

2469
02:00:02,107 --> 02:00:04,667
Speaker 15: an example. An open mind is someone like a Jody Barrett,

2470
02:00:04,987 --> 02:00:09,587
Speaker 15: you know traditionally have gone to Japan to play. And

2471
02:00:09,667 --> 02:00:12,347
Speaker 15: when Jordi came and said I've got an option for

2472
02:00:12,347 --> 02:00:15,987
Speaker 15: for for Leinster and another an opportunity, you know, we

2473
02:00:16,147 --> 02:00:20,227
Speaker 15: zoomed and we talked through all the practicalities. What would

2474
02:00:20,867 --> 02:00:23,467
Speaker 15: what would his season look like going north? Is it

2475
02:00:23,547 --> 02:00:26,707
Speaker 15: going to make him a better player? You know, and

2476
02:00:26,987 --> 02:00:29,747
Speaker 15: once we'd listened and you know, had majority of the

2477
02:00:29,787 --> 02:00:32,467
Speaker 15: six nations off, he'd had a break, he'd been well coached.

2478
02:00:32,467 --> 02:00:32,627
Speaker 7: You know.

2479
02:00:32,747 --> 02:00:35,227
Speaker 15: I just had to catch up with Jack Naber when

2480
02:00:35,267 --> 02:00:38,587
Speaker 15: I was over there and talked and sat down with

2481
02:00:38,667 --> 02:00:40,667
Speaker 15: him and just how impressed he was as a as

2482
02:00:40,707 --> 02:00:43,707
Speaker 15: a player, as a man, how hard he worked on

2483
02:00:43,827 --> 02:00:46,627
Speaker 15: and off the field. That were just incredibly impressed. You know,

2484
02:00:46,947 --> 02:00:49,987
Speaker 15: we touched base with him. He's an off field coach

2485
02:00:50,027 --> 02:00:52,107
Speaker 15: to Jordy, so he'd be leaning on and off the field.

2486
02:00:52,307 --> 02:00:54,427
Speaker 15: And that's a prime example of keeping open mind someone

2487
02:00:55,027 --> 02:00:58,907
Speaker 15: like himself going north. Okay, great, we're in a position now.

2488
02:00:58,907 --> 02:01:01,347
Speaker 15: Will he'll come back as a better player and ultimately

2489
02:01:01,387 --> 02:01:04,147
Speaker 15: that's what we want out of this and he's just

2490
02:01:04,187 --> 02:01:06,347
Speaker 15: one example, you know, potentially more to come.

2491
02:01:06,387 --> 02:01:08,467
Speaker 2: There you go. Just a small snippet of a very

2492
02:01:08,507 --> 02:01:13,147
Speaker 2: special Rugby Direct episode released at five o'clock on Tuesday morning,

2493
02:01:13,147 --> 02:01:16,827
Speaker 2: with Elliot Smith and Liam Napier alongside Mark Robinson, CEO

2494
02:01:17,107 --> 02:01:22,347
Speaker 2: of New Zealand Rugby and Scott Robertson, All Black's head coach.

2495
02:01:22,467 --> 02:01:24,587
Speaker 2: Of course, that brings to an end our show. Just

2496
02:01:24,627 --> 02:01:27,027
Speaker 2: about final text from Carl poney. I'm not a huge

2497
02:01:27,027 --> 02:01:29,267
Speaker 2: follower of golf, don't play it, don't really watch it,

2498
02:01:29,347 --> 02:01:33,587
Speaker 2: but Mate, that interview absolutely transcend it all Sport. It

2499
02:01:33,667 --> 02:01:36,187
Speaker 2: was absolutely amazing to hear from Craig Perks. I literally

2500
02:01:36,227 --> 02:01:38,427
Speaker 2: had tears in my eye, says Carl. The way Craig

2501
02:01:38,507 --> 02:01:41,867
Speaker 2: described those shots and the background story of his journey riveting,

2502
02:01:41,907 --> 02:01:44,347
Speaker 2: incredible radio. Thank you so much for sharing, Carl, Thank

2503
02:01:44,347 --> 02:01:46,427
Speaker 2: you for texting in. Appreciate it very much. Yeah, one

2504
02:01:46,467 --> 02:01:49,307
Speaker 2: of the more enjoyable fifteen minutes I've had in recent

2505
02:01:49,347 --> 02:01:52,427
Speaker 2: times a chat with Craig Perks. Hopefully we can do

2506
02:01:52,427 --> 02:01:55,747
Speaker 2: it again when March rolls around next year and get

2507
02:01:55,747 --> 02:01:58,867
Speaker 2: the feeling he'd be just as articulate a storyteller. If

2508
02:01:58,907 --> 02:02:01,627
Speaker 2: we did it, then that is us on Weekend Sport

2509
02:02:01,707 --> 02:02:04,907
Speaker 2: for today. Huge tanks to any McDonald for producing the show.

2510
02:02:05,547 --> 02:02:07,587
Speaker 2: Enjoy the rest of your way. Thank you for listening

2511
02:02:07,627 --> 02:02:09,987
Speaker 2: to and for taking part in the conversation. If that's

2512
02:02:10,027 --> 02:02:12,947
Speaker 2: what you elected to do. Tim Beverage is on your

2513
02:02:13,027 --> 02:02:15,547
Speaker 2: radio after three o'clock to take you through the next

2514
02:02:15,587 --> 02:02:19,467
Speaker 2: segment of Sunday with the Weekend Collective. And we're counting

2515
02:02:19,507 --> 02:02:23,187
Speaker 2: down now. Towards Liam Lawson getting on the starting grid

2516
02:02:23,547 --> 02:02:26,667
Speaker 2: at the Australian Grand Prix in Melbourne. Five o'clock is

2517
02:02:26,747 --> 02:02:30,027
Speaker 2: scheduled start time for that, as he takes a full

2518
02:02:30,027 --> 02:02:32,507
Speaker 2: time seat in Formula one for the very first time.

2519
02:02:32,907 --> 02:02:35,707
Speaker 2: He's had all sorts of advice. I'm sure over the

2520
02:02:35,787 --> 02:02:38,107
Speaker 2: last little while he's been told this, that and the

2521
02:02:38,187 --> 02:02:41,307
Speaker 2: other thing. But as an exit song today, I think

2522
02:02:41,387 --> 02:02:47,347
Speaker 2: the basic message should be Rihanna's basic message. Andy, just

2523
02:02:47,387 --> 02:02:50,987
Speaker 2: shut up and drive man, I drive fast, fast, race cards,

2524
02:02:51,307 --> 02:02:54,707
Speaker 2: just drive fast. Liam, just shut up and drive. Thank

2525
02:02:54,747 --> 02:02:56,747
Speaker 2: you for listening. We're back on sports Talk tomorrow night.

2526
02:02:56,787 --> 02:02:57,267
Speaker 2: See then.

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Speaker 9: It's time she staid the same way there gets away

2528
02:03:33,507 --> 02:03:37,907
Speaker 9: on accoun you know what to make around them more

2529
02:03:38,147 --> 02:03:39,187
Speaker 9: than a must.

2530
02:03:39,947 --> 02:03:40,947
Speaker 16: Maybe again.

2531
02:03:42,227 --> 02:03:45,507
Speaker 9: Run on the lad maybe give him, maybe one away,

2532
02:03:45,587 --> 02:03:51,067
Speaker 9: gave one back, there was six day, everyone back. Maybe

2533
02:03:51,187 --> 02:03:51,787
Speaker 9: you'll get.

2534
02:03:53,867 --> 02:03:54,947
Speaker 1: Shut up and drawn.

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Speaker 9: Shut up the dred, shut up, the dun let him

2536
02:04:05,267 --> 02:04:05,787
Speaker 9: the dread.

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Speaker 1: For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine, listen live

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02:04:22,147 --> 02:04:25,427
Speaker 1: to news talks at b Weekends from midday, or follow

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Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.