1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: In the big red land to our left, see price. 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Very good morning to you. 3 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 2: Good morning morning. 4 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: I reckon elbow has been sucked in, don't you. 5 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a very interesting day yesterday, didn't he. 6 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 2: I mean he rushed to the phone. It was a 7 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: pre arranged call, President Trump. So let's get that up front. 8 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 2: And I mean, this call didn't come about because the 9 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: tariff's got slapped on and suddenly now Anthony Albanize wanted 10 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 2: to argue our case. It was a pre arranged call. 11 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: Lasted forty minutes. The President post the call called Anthony 12 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: Albaniz he quote, a very fine man, but then proceeded 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: not long after via his department that's actually going to 14 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: work out whether Australia gets exemption on these tariffs or not, 15 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: to say, well, hang on a minute. Australia is threatening 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: US national security. They've allowed all this aluminum into the country. 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: They've gone well past what they said they were the 18 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: expert to us by one hundred percent. So the ball 19 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: is now firmly back in the US court. I mean, 20 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: we know what happens here. Donald Trump. He signs these 21 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 2: presidential orders and then the department gets to work in 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: the background. Most of the diplomats I saw Mike yesterday 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 2: talked about this said, look, we're at stage one, we're 24 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: on the ground floor. We're not out of the woods yet. 25 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: This is going to take a long time. It's going 26 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: to take a lot of convincing and we're not sure 27 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: that Australia will end up actually being exempt on steel 28 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 2: and adaminium going into the US. And that's an interesting 29 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: aspect because the prime ministers really come straight out, stood 30 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: out in the Prime Minister who courtyard and crowed about 31 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: the call, basically saying we're going to be exempt. Well, 32 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 2: it's going to be very embarrassing for him if that 33 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: doesn't happen, particularly given that that law happened during the 34 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: lead up to an election. 35 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more. We'll come back to the election in 36 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: just a moment. Sam Kerr, I think I suggested to you. 37 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: I read a piece yesterday in one of the papers 38 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Robinson wrote it should never have been in court. 39 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: It was and she's been found not guilty. But the 40 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: bigger question is this, as so often as the case, 41 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: so much bigger than it needed to be, isn't it. 42 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: But the reputational damage to Sam Kerr, you can't calculate that. 43 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 2: I read Robertson's column and his sentiment is probably correct. 44 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot more important things in the 45 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: UK justice system I would have thought to be dealing 46 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: with than Sam Kerb. But what it's done, and this 47 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: is the debate we're having in this country. This woman's 48 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 2: the captain of the Matilda's, the national soccer team. She's 49 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: the most highly paid female soccer stuff probably in the 50 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: world place with Chelsea hasn't played for a year because 51 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: of a knee injury. But what she showed on that 52 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: night where she abused a copper refused to pay a 53 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: cab driver was a level of privilege that most people 54 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: feel uncomfortable with. I mean, I'd never thrown up in 55 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: the back of a taxi, but I can understand how 56 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: it might happen. I've never been in a cab locked 57 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: and driven to a police station, and yes, I'd be agitated. 58 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: Would I be libel as her partner did to kick 59 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: the back window out, No, I wouldn't, and then to 60 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: end up in court and all that body cam footage. 61 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: She's got a long way to go back to get 62 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: back to the point where at one point I would 63 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: suggest to you. During the World Cup in this country, 64 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: she was the most popular Australian of all. She was 65 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: the Young Australian of the Year in twenty eighteen. She'd 66 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: been lauded by every politician up and down the country. 67 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: I just think today she seems like a bit of 68 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 2: a privileged superstar soccer player who's a bit of a 69 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: nasty piece of works. 70 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: And here's what but here's how it works. I mean, 71 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 1: if all the Australian people or whoever it is, see 72 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: you kick a ball and score a goal, that's what 73 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: they think of you the moment they get to I 74 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: just think about this the other day with Grace Tame 75 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: and that T shirt, the if Murdock t shirt standing 76 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: next to Elban easy, the woman's Australian. You know, you 77 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: hand out the prizes and then all of a sudden, Ah, 78 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: is that what you really like? Eh? 79 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: I think that's correct. And I don't know that Sam 80 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: Kirk could ever get it back to the position that 81 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: she was in during that World Cup. I think she's 82 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: very much tarnished and is now a debate going on 83 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: whether she should be given back to captaincy of the 84 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: Matilda's I don't think that'll happen. It's a bit like 85 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: Sam Papergate and Steve Smith. I mean it's very hard 86 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: to come back. 87 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Now, take me to the lodge last 88 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: night drinks. What's going on? 89 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 2: All the tills were invited. Now, these are the independents 90 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: who say they're not a party, but they are funded 91 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 2: by a climate two hundred and Simon homes a court. Suddenly, 92 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: out of the blue on a Monday Tuesday night, the 93 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: Prime Minister invites all of them to drinks at the lodge. 94 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: The invitation logged very late. Six point thirty was the 95 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: invitation time. It lasted for only an hour and a half. 96 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: You had people like Zoey Daniel and a Leegra Spender 97 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: and Zalie Stegel, all of them were there. Menique Ryan 98 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: and you can't see this in any other way than 99 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 2: the PM loading himself up with a drinks party at 100 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: the lodge. In the event that the election, which is 101 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: going to be hel now, I think it maybe sooner 102 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: rather than later, I must apologize the interest rate cover 103 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: this next Tuesday. I thought I said on Monday was yesterday. 104 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 2: It's next Tuesday. He's going to have to deal with 105 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: these people in a minority government. That's the most likely 106 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 2: outcome probably right now the election. So if you live 107 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: in the lodge and you're the PM and you want 108 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 2: to impress a bunch of people who you're going to 109 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: have to deal with if you have a hung Parliament, 110 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: what better way to do it than turn on some 111 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: Canterpase and champagne down at the lodge and the law. 112 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: Interesting, Hey, just quickly before you go. So I'm reading 113 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: yesterday about North Sydney and they're not the only one. 114 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: There's another council on Northern Beaches. I think North Sydney County. 115 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: How much of this is going on Australia generally eighty rates. 116 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: This is eighty seven percent over two years. What moron 117 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: thinks they can get away with that? 118 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: I wish I hadn't raised it because I think what's 119 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: going to happen to here now is Victorian councilors are going 120 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: to look at this and go, well, you beauty. If 121 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: they can get away with it there, we can get 122 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: away with it here. North Sydney Council is a little 123 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 2: bit of an outlier because they decided to renovate that 124 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: beautiful swimming pool down on the edge of the harbor 125 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: next to Lunar Park and the thing's been going. The 126 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: renovation has been going for four years. That could take 127 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: four years. I don't know. I haven't got the exact 128 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: cost off the top of my head. That it's ballooned 129 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: out by more than two hundred percent the cost of it. 130 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: It's sending the council broke and they believe the only 131 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: way to do it is to up the rates by 132 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: that amount, which is outrageous. Northern Beaches of Sydney have 133 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: done the same thing. I think other councils will be 134 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: looking at this going new beauty. I think we can 135 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: do this, which is outrageous because from a Victorian point 136 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: of view, councils are repairing pot old roads. Your rubbish 137 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: collection might or might not happen. They don't do the 138 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: basic things they're supposed to do, and I think there'd 139 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 2: be complete revolution if they tried to do it in Melbourne. 140 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: You're a good blake to see next week. Appreciate it 141 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: very much and I do recommend the Jeffrey Robinson peace 142 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: out of the Morning Herald yesterday. I was a London judge. 143 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: Sam Kerrz case should never have gone to trial. It's 144 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: a very very good example of how if you get 145 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: somebody who's a bit bitter and twisted, in this case, 146 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: a policeman, is somehow allowed to spend an astonishing amount 147 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: of the public's money on what essentially is a massive 148 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: waste of time. For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, 149 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: listen live to news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, 150 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.