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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 2: It's hither Duplicy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand Let's

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Speaker 3: News Talk said be.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to Heather Deplicy Allen Drive here on News Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 4: I'm Francesco Budkin filling in for Heather today. She will

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Speaker 4: be back with you tomorrow. Coming up on the show today,

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Speaker 4: Darling Taner has gone from the Greens, but has not

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Speaker 4: gone from Parliament. Green's co leader Chloes Warbroick will be

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Speaker 4: with me after five to talk about the report and

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Speaker 4: the consequences. Pressure is continuing to mount on US President

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden to step down in the next election, but

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Speaker 4: will he We will head to the States on the

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Speaker 4: show today, and plus we go to Tiano, birthplace of

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Speaker 4: New Zealand's new tennis sensation.

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Speaker 3: News Talk said by It has.

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Speaker 4: Been one hundred and sixteen days since Green MP Darling

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Speaker 4: Tanner was suspended from caucus on full pay amid allegations

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Speaker 4: shares linked to migrant exploitation at her husband's company. Finally,

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Speaker 4: today a very frustrated Greens co leader Chloe Swoolbrick stepped

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Speaker 4: up to announce they have received the final report. They

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Speaker 4: got it on Friday. They met as a caucus over

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Speaker 4: the weekend and unanimously decided that they would request Darling

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Speaker 4: Tanner's resignation from parliament. Since then, Darling has resigned from

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Speaker 4: the Green Party, but she is yet to resign from Parliament,

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Speaker 4: which at this point and at a minimum, is pretty cheeky.

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Speaker 4: Dna has been suspended on full pay for more than

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Speaker 4: half her entire career as an MP. The last count

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Speaker 4: that a very patient reporter did they are discovered how

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Speaker 4: much she had earned while under investigation. They suggested that

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Speaker 4: it was around forty seven thousand dollars, and the cost

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Speaker 4: of the investigation itself, well, those costs are north of

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Speaker 4: forty three thousand. So the Greens have been very cagey

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Speaker 4: about what's in the report. There is only so much

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Speaker 4: they can tell us, and as much as they have

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Speaker 4: stated they want to release the report, they don't know

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Speaker 4: when they will actually be able to do this. Despite this,

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Speaker 4: the Green Party isn't messing around. They've strongly stated that

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Speaker 4: they hope that Tana does the right thing and resigns

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Speaker 4: as a member of Parliament. If she refuses, they will

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Speaker 4: have to decide whether to invoke the Walker jumping legislation

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Speaker 4: to remove her from Parliament, legislation they've vehemently opposed, so,

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Speaker 4: as Warbrook said, her actions go against the core of

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Speaker 4: everything the Greens stand for. She also stated that she

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Speaker 4: felt Tana had misled Madama Davidson and herself, so you

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Speaker 4: can kind of understand White's woolbrick is fired up today.

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Speaker 4: This issue has always been about integrity, The integrity of

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Speaker 4: Darling Tana, the Green Party and independent investigations. They are

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Speaker 4: all under scrutiny. Surely there must be a better way

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Speaker 4: to conduct an independent investigation, a cheaper, more transparent and

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Speaker 4: a quicker version, please, and that would have benefited everybody involved.

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Speaker 4: And we're too now for Darling Tana. Well, she has

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Speaker 4: had her investigation, an investigation where she agreed to the

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Speaker 4: terms of reference. If she wants to stay in Parliament,

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Speaker 4: she must agree to release the report. However, I find

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Speaker 4: myself agreeing strongly with the Greens on the other option.

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Speaker 4: She should resign from parliament and save us from any

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Speaker 4: further Bother news talk said, be all right, and of

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Speaker 4: course keen to hear your thoughts throughout the afternoon. You

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Speaker 4: can text anytime on ninety two ninety two right, Consumer

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Speaker 4: New Zealand is calling for power companies to stop switching

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Speaker 4: off the power for those who can't pay. Each year,

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Speaker 4: around forty thousand New Zealanders are disconnected from their power

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Speaker 4: supply for non payment. Despite this, the big four power

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Speaker 4: companies together made more than half a billion dollars in

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Speaker 4: profit last year. Paul Fuge is power switch manager at

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Speaker 4: Consumer New Zealand, and he joins me, now, thanks for your.

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Speaker 5: Time, Paul, Hi, goody.

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Speaker 4: Hey, how many payments do you have to have missed

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Speaker 4: before the power is switched off?

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Speaker 6: What depends on the retail Usually depends on which sort

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Speaker 6: of plan you're on. If you're on a pre pay plan,

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Speaker 6: because the power can be disconnected automatically. If you're on

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Speaker 6: a post paid plan, usually get two or three reminders

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Speaker 6: before you're disconnected, So.

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Speaker 4: That could be a month then or two months, maybe

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Speaker 4: after you hadn't paid a bill.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, on post pay, it'll be a couple of months

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Speaker 6: before it got to that point.

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Speaker 4: Okay, how long are these people disconnected from their power

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Speaker 4: supply because they don't pay the bills?

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Speaker 6: Well, it varies, you know, on prepay it can be

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Speaker 6: a matter of hours, you know, on other options. It

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Speaker 6: can be a lot longer. It can be days or

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Speaker 6: even weeks. We've heard so was.

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Speaker 4: That because you've all of a sudden contacted them said

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Speaker 4: I've made a payment and they switch it back on

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Speaker 4: for you. Or is that just the length of time

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Speaker 4: it can take for them to get power back on.

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Speaker 7: No, it's right.

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Speaker 6: So with modern meters, the power can be reason toward

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Speaker 6: phily fairly immediately. So as soon as you know, pay

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Speaker 6: what's owed, they continue on back on immediately.

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Speaker 4: Forty thousand New Zealanders is a lot, isn't it You

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Speaker 4: surprised by that?

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Speaker 6: No, not really, It's been that way for a few

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Speaker 6: years now. It's been pretty consistent finding we've had Vie

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Speaker 6: being cut off. I guess what's of more concern is

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Speaker 6: the prepay for us. Is that's the automatic disconnections that

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Speaker 6: can be we feel as a little bit dangerous. With

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Speaker 6: the other ones. For postpaid, there's usually quite a bit

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Speaker 6: of time for intervention before disconnection occurs.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I can understand the concerns around the prepay. If

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Speaker 4: we don't ever switch the power off, aren't we just

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Speaker 4: sending the message that it's okay not to pay.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's that's right, it needs to be balanced that's

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Speaker 6: right if people will just if we just said no,

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Speaker 6: you wouldn't need to be cut off. That would create

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Speaker 6: another issue, wouldn't it Because bigger then we'll not pay well.

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Speaker 6: So we're not saying that it needs to be balanced out.

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Speaker 6: We need to be more protections around disconnections and more

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Speaker 6: time for interventions and other mechanisms need to be in

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Speaker 6: place to stop those people who genuinely can't afford it,

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Speaker 6: and whether it be genuine harm caused to take place

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Speaker 6: before disconnection occurs.

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Speaker 4: I have occasionally received Liverpool. I'm going to admit this

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Speaker 4: where I've missed a bill and the first that I get,

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Speaker 4: generally the utilities company will say to me, hey, look,

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Speaker 4: if you're having problems paying, we can come up with

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Speaker 4: a payment plan. Does that happen with the power companies?

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Speaker 6: And yes, that's right. Generally they're pretty good about it.

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Speaker 6: And as long as people are making a genuine effort

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Speaker 6: to pay, you won't be cut up. Lot people don't

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Speaker 6: realize that the people who get cut off we here

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Speaker 6: are the people who go to ground who just don't respond.

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Speaker 6: But if you're making it, if you do, you are

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Speaker 6: having trouble paying and you contact your retailer, they most

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Speaker 6: of them will come to the party and help you

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Speaker 6: out and come up with the payment plan or some

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Speaker 6: other mechanism. And as long as you're making an attempt

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Speaker 6: to pay, generally you will not be cut off.

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Speaker 4: Great, So the advice is don't be shy about it,

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Speaker 4: get on the phone, call them, explain the situation, and

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Speaker 4: find a solution as opposed to being cut off.

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Speaker 8: That's right.

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Speaker 6: The worst thing you can do is just not respond.

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Speaker 4: Is the problem here that power companies are charging too much?

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Speaker 8: Well, that's right.

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Speaker 6: If you take a step back, we have to ask

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Speaker 6: why ultricity has got so expensive. And I guess that's

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Speaker 6: the elephant in the room. You know what's causing you

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Speaker 6: know the you know what's causing this problem is ultracy

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Speaker 6: has got quite expensive. It's thirty five percent more expensive

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Speaker 6: in real terms than it was at the beginning of

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Speaker 6: the market, as we would offer a bit more recently,

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Speaker 6: but it has got increasing expensive and it's a cost

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Speaker 6: of living crisis. So it's not just not just ultrus

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Speaker 6: everything else has got more expensive as well. So people

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Speaker 6: are finding it generally a lot harder to pay their bill.

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Speaker 6: About nineteen percent of people are struggling to pay their power.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Paul, thanks so much for joining us today and

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Speaker 4: talking us through that. That was Paul Fuge from power Switch.

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Speaker 3: Digging deeper into the day's headlines.

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Speaker 1: It's hither duplessy Alan drive with one New Zealand one

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Speaker 1: giant leap for business US dogsb.

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Speaker 4: He comments here on the power story. Bend texts to say,

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Speaker 4: if I don't pay my phone bill, it gets cut off.

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Speaker 4: If I don't pay my car it gets taken Pay

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Speaker 4: your bills. People. Another person has bought up the winter

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Speaker 4: energy payment. This is what people on low incomes get

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Speaker 4: the winter energy payment for. Are they ripping the taxpayer off?

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Speaker 4: I think what we got out of that conversation with

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Speaker 4: Paul is if you're having a problem in struggling, just

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Speaker 4: call your provider, have a conversation. You'll be able to

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Speaker 4: find a solution, hopefully. Jason Pine, sports talk host, we'll

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Speaker 4: be joining you at seven pm tonight, and he joins me, Now,

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Speaker 4: good evening, Good evening. Don't you just love an underdog story?

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Speaker 4: I love that moment when someone's life is changed by

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Speaker 4: a game or a match and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: all those years Pioney of sacrifice and physical and mental

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Speaker 4: training and most likely a lot of loneliness.

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Speaker 10: It all pays off absolutely and lo LUs On, yeah,

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Speaker 10: I had all that.

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Speaker 4: That's what I felt like We've been watching with Lusn.

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Speaker 4: It's so absoluting, isn't it so good?

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Speaker 10: And I mean just the circumstances around her win first

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Speaker 10: ever appearance on center court, but even to get into

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Speaker 10: the main draw at Wimbledon is a big thing. She

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Speaker 10: a set down in one of those qualifiers, got through okay,

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Speaker 10: darling Emma Radakanu, who was obviously the crowd favorite and

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Speaker 10: probably the hot favorite ranking wise. She got there in

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Speaker 10: three sets. I thought it was really cool. Actually, even

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Speaker 10: you know though the crowd were clearly wanting Emma Ronicadu

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Speaker 10: to win. Once Lulusan had win, once she went back

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Speaker 10: out on court and got a really nice ovation. But

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Speaker 10: for her life changing, as you say, to make the

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Speaker 10: last eight of a major like this, this will be

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Speaker 10: a major thing in her tennis career.

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Speaker 4: We're going to head to Tiano a little bit later

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Speaker 4: in the show as well. Of course, we have ticked

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Speaker 4: the All Blacks first test off under Scott Robertson how

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Speaker 4: satisfied will he be? I have a funny feeling plony

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Speaker 4: that he will have just gone okay, we've done that

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Speaker 10: I tend to agree. I think the first one was

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Speaker 10: it is the first one. Everything was new. They didn't

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Speaker 10: the game for a while, these coaches and the players obviously,

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Speaker 10: I think was an important box to tick. And now

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Speaker 10: I think you're right. I think now now go into it,

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Speaker 10: it won't be new to them. They've got a frame

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Speaker 10: of reference around what England bring and around what the

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Speaker 10: All Blacks can do, and we'll need to do better.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, I think it's almost like a bit of

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Speaker 10: a weight off their shoulders now they're not new to

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Speaker 10: it all. And look, I kind of expect the All

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Speaker 10: more convincingly to England's chance. I think was Saturday night

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Speaker 10: I really want to focus on the tennis. Get a

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much for your texts. Francisco, I'm confused, Darling.

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Speaker 4: you plus se Alan drive on Newstalksby.

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Speaker 5: The hell love of bluff you had me believe in.

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Speaker 12: And what happened that happens? Did you go back?

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Speaker 3: Go back?

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Speaker 12: I loved you?

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Speaker 11: How tragic?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Did you new stuff working?

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Speaker 11: Did your truck break?

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Speaker 4: Did you plant through money?

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Speaker 11: Digit ex man, there's a way and I'm sure you're lasted.

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Speaker 3: Hard questions Strong opinion.

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Speaker 2: Heather du for see Ellen drive with one New Zealand

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Speaker 4: A little bit more feedback for you. I see someone

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Speaker 4: It's okay. She hasn't gone on holiday or anything. She

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Speaker 4: Power companies are the biggest crooks. It's disgraceful. They charge

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Speaker 4: very much for your text.

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Speaker 14: Actually, Heather Duplessy Allen cutting through the noise to get

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Speaker 2: It's Heather Duplicy Allen Drive with one New Zealand let's

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Speaker 4: Up, coming up shortly. Very sober is going to be well. Thus,

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Speaker 4: France is facing a hung parliament after an unexpected surge

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Speaker 13: Unfortunately, the alliance of this honor and the dangerous electual

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Speaker 4: Three children have died in a house fire in West Sydney.

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Speaker 15: This is a horrifying and senseless act, a horrifying and

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Speaker 15: senseless act that's quite rightly outraged the entire state. These

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Speaker 4: Of Australian correspondent Oliver Peterson. Shortly, and finally, two pistols,

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind for.

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Speaker 3: New Zealand business.

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Speaker 4: And joining us now is Oliver Peterson, six PR Perth

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Speaker 5: How are you today, Oliver Francesco? I am very well.

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Speaker 13: How are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm good? Thank you. This is just a horrible, horrible

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Speaker 16: It is just words will not do anything justice here

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Speaker 16: that reliving what these local residents had to go through

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Speaker 16: While it is being alleged that the father was holding

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Speaker 16: Let me die here now.

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Speaker 5: He's ten month old baby girl too.

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Speaker 16: Boys age three and six are dead and it is

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Speaker 16: But on the surface of this, I cannot quite believe

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Speaker 5: It is just horrible.

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Speaker 4: No, it's unimaginable. The cops are worried about a new lethal.

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Speaker 5: Drug, yeah they are.

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Speaker 16: They're saying, the Australian Federal Police that they've got on

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Speaker 16: stronger more potent than morphine. Now, obviously you've got to

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Speaker 5: It's been found in Melbourne.

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Speaker 16: A search warrant of about four kilos of this was

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Speaker 4: Any incidents regarding it not at this stage.

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Speaker 16: We do know of a forty thirty two year old

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Speaker 4: And the Defense Force by as new high tech drones.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, they're called the Kamakazi like drones.

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Speaker 5: They're called a switchblade three hundred.

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Speaker 16: It's designed to crash into enemy They're going to be

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Speaker 5: They are weigh only three kilograms. Will be interesting to

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Speaker 3: How much were they?

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Speaker 5: Sorry, we don't have a price yet.

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Speaker 16: We don't have a number, but the Australian Defense Force

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Speaker 16: you know, to photograph the beautiful coastal scenery there in New.

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Speaker 4: Zealand's passively Oliver Peterson, thank you for keeping us up

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Speaker 4: across Australia. This will probably affect us as well because

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Speaker 4: so many ships got held up in it. There was

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Speaker 4: a cyber attack and it brought its freight ships to

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Speaker 4: a halt, and there was this huge concern that it

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Speaker 4: was going to create widespread shortages ahead of Christmas. I

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Speaker 4: know it's July, but we're already thinking about Christmas. So

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Speaker 4: the Australians were getting very worried that Christmas was going

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Speaker 4: to be off and estimated thirty thousand shipping containers were stranded,

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Speaker 4: which is quite a lot. Anyway, they've kind of they're

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Speaker 4: back up and running, and experts predict that they originally

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Speaker 4: predicted that the fallout could last week's and it could

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Speaker 4: ripple through the broader economy and have an impact on Christmas.

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Speaker 4: But now it looks like the supermarket chains they're going

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Speaker 4: to be unaffected by disruptions and really really good news

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Speaker 4: for the assies. The owner of the liquor giant Dan

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Speaker 4: Murphy's has said, it's okay, folks, we already have our

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Speaker 4: Christmas stock. It has arrived in the country. It's going

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Speaker 4: to be all right. We're going to have enough bears

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Speaker 4: and bears and wine for Christmas. So that's good news

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Speaker 4: that that's up and running. But it doesn't take much,

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Speaker 4: does it, to stop everything. And we've learned over the

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Speaker 4: last few years what happens when shipping is disrupted. Okay,

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Speaker 4: back to your texts. The report on Tana's finding reflects

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Speaker 4: directly on the Greens. They shouldn't be able to hide

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Speaker 4: behind a privacy blanket to avoid releasing it. As I

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Speaker 4: mentioned before, we're going to talk to Chloe just after

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Speaker 4: fire and this is what we're going to ask her.

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Speaker 4: They have always said they wanted to release this report.

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Speaker 4: And I know it's really easy for us to say,

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Speaker 4: come on these investigations before, what the Greens have dragged on,

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Speaker 4: they haven't always been transparent and we sometimes don't get

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Speaker 4: all the information we need. So I completely understand cynicism

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Speaker 4: behind your texts and your thoughts here, but I think

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Speaker 4: they are really keen to release this report. I think

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Speaker 4: they would like us to know the behavior that has

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Speaker 4: gone on, because they would really like there to be

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Speaker 4: pressure on Darlene Tana to resign so that they don't

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Speaker 4: have to take any further steps to remove her from parliament.

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Speaker 4: A few more about the electricity Francesca, we are pensioners

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Speaker 4: and receive the electricity subsidy. We don't need it, nor

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Speaker 4: do any of our friends need it. It should be income

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Speaker 4: assessed based and Francisca, there is one hundred and ten

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Speaker 4: grand available to everybody struggling to pay their powable. You

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Speaker 4: claim it through your retailer. The previous governments set it

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Speaker 4: up when they took our low user rebates off us,

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Speaker 4: but didn't advertise widely. The grant is available. I just

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Speaker 4: email Meridian each year and it is credited. So that

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Speaker 4: was from Jill. More good information there, Hey yet, Next

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Speaker 4: we're also going to head to Tiano. And I'm really

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Speaker 4: excited about this story about lu Luson because we all

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Speaker 4: you know who doesn't love a really good underdog story.

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Speaker 4: And I just can't resist a positive, upbeat story. And

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Speaker 4: I had such a smile on my face this warning

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Speaker 4: when I saw that she had beaten former US Open

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Speaker 4: champ Edit Radakano, and I can only imagine what was

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Speaker 4: happening in Tiano and how exciting it must be for

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Speaker 4: them and her family who is still based there. So

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Speaker 4: we of course will be heading there next hour as well.

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Speaker 4: It is a fifteen to five year with News Talk

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Speaker 4: Senior political correspondent Barry Soaper joins me. Now, good afternoon,

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Speaker 4: Hello Francesca. How are you very good? Thank you, nice

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Speaker 4: to see you. The darlinge Tana saga has been the

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Speaker 4: news of the day, hasn't it.

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Speaker 17: It most certainly has. And Chloe Swarbrick she's the only

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Speaker 17: leader of the Greens on deck at the moment because

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Speaker 17: Madame and Davidson is taking time off for breast cancer

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Speaker 17: and will be away for most of the years. So

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Speaker 17: Chloe Swarbrick is now really feeling what the heat is

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Speaker 17: like if you're leading alone a political party, which is

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Speaker 17: what she's been doing today. It's an interesting one. This's

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Speaker 17: because you know, MPs have stayed on before as independents,

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Speaker 17: and there was a walker jumping piece of legislation in

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Speaker 17: the early two thousands that had a sunset clause and

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Speaker 17: it went off the statute books, but they brought another

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Speaker 17: one back in in twenty eighteen, and that's quite specific.

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Speaker 17: They have to essentially, an MP has to send a

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Speaker 17: notice to the Speaker saying that they either quit the

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Speaker 17: party or they wanted to remain on as an independent

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Speaker 17: or a member of another party. So they can still

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Speaker 17: do that, but there's no other party of course that's

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Speaker 17: going to touch Darling Tana at the moment.

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Speaker 4: Has the Speaker heard from Darling yet?

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Speaker 17: Well, I haven't been able to contact the Speaker. I

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Speaker 17: think he maybe overseas, so you know, it's the form

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Speaker 17: is there. They're in recess at the moment, so I

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Speaker 17: don't think anything immediate is going to happen. But you know,

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Speaker 17: I think the Greens are not covered in glory for

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Speaker 17: this because when they hired the solicitor to do the

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Speaker 17: inquiry at the beginning in mid March, they said, you know,

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Speaker 17: it'll be a short inquiry, it won't take long, and

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Speaker 17: now we see one hundred and fifteen days Darling Tana

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Speaker 17: has in fact been in Parliament for basically being paid

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Speaker 17: for more than half the time that she's been there

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Speaker 17: without being at work, which is pretty disgraceful and means

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Speaker 17: that she's earned over fifty thousand dollars the cost of

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Speaker 17: the report that the Greens have come up with. That's

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Speaker 17: taxpayer money as well. Even though it's out of the

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Speaker 17: Greens budget, it's still taxpayers money. So it's not a

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Speaker 17: good saga for the Greens. Don't forget Elizabeth Kerry Carey. Yes,

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Speaker 17: she defected from the Greens as well. She stayed on

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Speaker 17: in Parliament as an independent MP and the lead up

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Speaker 17: to the last election, but because it was so close,

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Speaker 17: I think there was no feeling that, you know, there

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Speaker 17: was any point in doing anything about it then. But

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Speaker 17: of course we've still got now almost two and a

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Speaker 17: half years to the next election. So I think of

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Speaker 17: Darli and Tanau. I'm sure she knows this. If she

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Speaker 17: hung on there, she'd be hanging around like a bad smell.

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Speaker 4: What do you think you're doing?

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Speaker 12: Well?

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Speaker 17: If she's got any honor, she would resign and get

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Speaker 17: out of the place and make way for the proportionality

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Speaker 17: for the Greens to be maintained in Parliament. And that

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Speaker 17: would mean that they would bring the next person through

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Speaker 17: on the list, and that's what should happen. But you

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Speaker 17: know who knows what this woman is thinking about at

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Speaker 17: the moment.

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Speaker 4: The Prime Minister leaves for Washington, d C. Tonight for

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Speaker 4: the NATO summit.

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Speaker 17: Hopefully Yeah, well he's he's meant to be going via

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Speaker 17: Houston's fun when you think about it. They used to

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Speaker 17: run an airline him. Yeah, that's right, but it is difficult,

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Speaker 17: but it's Look, it's an important meeting for New Zealand.

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Speaker 17: We're not a member of NATO, of course, but there

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Speaker 17: are some big names that will be there this year,

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Speaker 17: like France isn't a member of NATO either, but Emmanuel

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Speaker 17: macrong is likely to be there because he's done quite

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Speaker 17: a lot of work in the lead up to this summit.

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Speaker 17: And you'll see Justin Trudeau will be there most likely,

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Speaker 17: well almost certainly he'll be there as well. So there

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Speaker 17: will be some people that Luxon would like to get alongside,

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Speaker 17: but not the least secure Starmer. I think he will

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Speaker 17: most almost certainly be in Washington, and you know it'll

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Speaker 17: be an opportunity for New Zealand to get alongside the

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Speaker 17: British Prime minister.

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Speaker 4: Does he have any official meetings with them or is

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Speaker 4: it just going to be pulicides.

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Speaker 17: He's got a number of bilaterals lined up, but mainly

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Speaker 17: I think they're in Congress, and you know, he'll no

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Speaker 17: doubt get a pretty good feed on Joe Biden and

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Speaker 17: Donald Trump and where all that's at. Although I think

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Speaker 17: the world is pretty knowledgeable about where it should be at.

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Speaker 17: But whether it ends up that way or not is

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Speaker 17: another matter. I mean, Joe Biden clearly is not up

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Speaker 17: to running for president. And we had news over the

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Speaker 17: weekend that a Parkinson's doctor or specialist has been to

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Speaker 17: the White House on several occasions in recent months. And

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Speaker 17: you've only got to look at the way he walks. Franciska.

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Speaker 17: I've had friends who have unfortunately suffered from parkinson so

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Speaker 17: they walk with their hands at their side, which is

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Speaker 17: a balance, and I think it's the telltale signs are

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Speaker 17: pretty masked.

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Speaker 4: So Dr Barry Soper diagnosis. Okay, Well, there we go,

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Speaker 4: poor Joe. It will be looked really really quickly. In

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Speaker 4: thirty seconds, Martin names for government departments, there's some confusion,

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Speaker 4: a bit of back and forth going on.

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Speaker 17: Well, it's all over the place, actually, and you know

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Speaker 17: it was part of the New Zealand First National Party

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Speaker 17: coalition deal that New Zealand has said that they should

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Speaker 17: be done away with and don't forget it was the

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Speaker 17: government departments themselves that decided without any consultation with the public.

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Speaker 17: I think this is an issue that should be debated

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Speaker 17: more widely, rather than ministers saying to their departments you

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Speaker 17: make up your own minds, and apparently that is the case,

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Speaker 17: and some with Foreign Affairs Winston saying AURA is not

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Speaker 17: to be used under any circumstances, whereas Conservation says it's

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Speaker 17: up to you do what you like. So they've got

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Speaker 17: to have a statement and a policy that really does controllers.

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Speaker 4: Barry soper A pleasure is always last to talk to.

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Speaker 17: Frenchiskin.

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Speaker 4: It is a six to five News talks edb putting.

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Speaker 1: The tough questions to the newspakers. The mic Hosking breakfast.

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Speaker 10: Heart services are now being described as in crisis and

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Speaker 10: they need much needed drugs and they need funding.

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Speaker 7: Joining me Chair of the New Zealand Cardiac Society, Martin Styles,

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Speaker 7: we as.

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Speaker 18: A cardiology community have been watching the news closely with

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Speaker 18: all the cancer funding and we are delighted to see

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Speaker 18: that the cancer patients are getting more funding. However, Cardibus

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Speaker 18: of the disease remains the number one killer of New Zealanders,

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Speaker 18: so we need to make sure that the funding that's

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Speaker 18: been given to far Make is distributed equitably across all diseases.

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Speaker 3: How much money do you need?

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Speaker 18: Well, the issue with healthcare is that healthcare has this

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Speaker 18: tendency to soak up as much money as you give it.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on the mic Hosking Breakfast Back tomorrow at

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Speaker 1: six am with the Jaguar on Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 4: This is Heather Duplicy Allen Drive. I'm fridgis good back

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Speaker 4: can filling in and I don't want you to think

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Speaker 4: that we have not tried to contact darlinge tanas Day.

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Speaker 4: This is what happen. And when we tried to contact Darline.

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Speaker 19: Kyoda Darling speaking. Sorry I couldn't get to the phone

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Speaker 19: right away, but see me a quick text message and

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Speaker 19: I'll get back to your sumi arcane.

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Speaker 4: So then we thought, well let's try her husband Christian.

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Speaker 20: Hello, this is Chris from basen Baber's Newmarket SATA. You

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Speaker 20: have reached us outside the time we were able to

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Speaker 20: attend to your goal. Please refrain from leaving a message.

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Speaker 20: Try and tift us it's quicker and better or and

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Speaker 20: so to be called.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, so we got the beeps. We did try

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Speaker 4: texting as well, but we got nowhere, So apologies for that.

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Speaker 4: But Chloe's warbroock is going to be up after five

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Speaker 4: o'clock to talk us through what has kind of played

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Speaker 4: out today. Hey, did you tune into the three News

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Speaker 4: bulletin over the weekend? Keen to hear what you thought?

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Speaker 4: I look, I watched it, haven't watched it for years,

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Speaker 4: watched it. They've released the figures this afternoon. According to

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Speaker 4: the ratings, three hundred and forty thousand people five years

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Speaker 4: and older tuned in to watch on a Saturday. That's

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Speaker 4: a whopping eighty nine percent more than news hubs Saturday

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Speaker 4: bulletin a week. So it turns out I wasn't just

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Speaker 4: the only curious one. I thought that did a pretty

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Speaker 4: good job. I'm hoping they can keep up the pace.

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Speaker 4: You're with News Talk zed b back.

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Speaker 1: Shortly the only drive show you can trust to ask

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Speaker 1: the questions, get the answers by the facts and give

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Speaker 1: the analysis.

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Speaker 2: Heather due to Celan drive with one New Zealand. Let's

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Speaker 2: get connected. A News Talk sed.

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Speaker 4: Be good to have you with us. I'm pretisca if

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Speaker 4: I've been filling in for Heather tonight, You'll be back

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Speaker 4: with you tomorrow. Right as we have been talking about Darling,

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Speaker 4: Tana has resigned from the Green Party but will stay

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Speaker 4: as an MP for now. The Greens have asked that

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Speaker 4: she resigned from Parliament all together, but Tana is yet

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Speaker 4: to respond to that request. A report into allegations of

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Speaker 4: migrant exploitation at Tana's husband's e bike company was handed

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Speaker 4: to the party on Friday night, but neither the report

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Speaker 4: or a summary have been released. Chloe's Warbrook is the

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Speaker 4: Green Party Coley, don't she joins me? Now, Hi Colder,

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Speaker 4: why can't you say what's in the report?

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Speaker 19: So, just to be crystal clear, our preference mine and

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Speaker 19: Madama's and our caucuses is for immediate release of that report,

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Speaker 19: but we have to continue to follow good practice in privacy.

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Speaker 21: Rights and law to that effect.

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Speaker 19: It's basically about consulting with all of the named parties here.

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Speaker 19: We're not just talking about Darling, but those who are

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Speaker 19: involved in making those allegations in other ways. So for

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Speaker 19: sake of clarity as well, we as of this morning,

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Speaker 19: have contacted all parties named in the executive summary for

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Speaker 19: sake of expediency and releasing that as practically possible.

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Speaker 4: Is Darlne Tana taking legal action against you all the

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Speaker 4: party to prevent publication of the report.

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Speaker 19: I am not aware of that at this point in time.

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Speaker 19: We have gone out for consultation and obviously asked for

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Speaker 19: release of that report.

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Speaker 4: Chloe, how bad was the conduct that was detailed on

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Speaker 4: the report?

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Speaker 19: Frankly, it was bad. It was bad to the extent

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Speaker 19: that myself FROMATAMA have come to the conclusion that this

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Speaker 19: And more so than that that it is our very

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Speaker 19: strong view that she mislet us as co leaders, which

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Speaker 19: could have curtailed the need for this independent expert investigation

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Speaker 19: in the first place.

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Speaker 21: The severity of.

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Speaker 19: That is of course reflected in us taking that kind

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Speaker 19: of unprecedented steps as so far as the Greens you know,

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Speaker 19: to my understanding, have not taken the step in the

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Speaker 19: caucus that we request her resignation as a member of parliament.

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Speaker 4: In entirety, you mentioned that she went against the values

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Speaker 4: of the Green Party. What values in particular are you

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Speaker 4: talking about?

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Speaker 21: So look at the stand up today.

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Speaker 19: Obviously myself town we all know is Alta, Martha Waker,

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Speaker 19: Martin pacifica caucus chair, and Rikardo men In. There's March,

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Speaker 19: who is not only our musterer but also our immigration spokesperson.

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Speaker 19: Spoke to our values and our proud track record of

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Speaker 19: for migrant workers' rights. You know, there's plenty that is

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Speaker 19: out there in the public arena. And I cannot comment

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Speaker 19: on the content specifically of the report, but what I

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Speaker 19: and her inability to acknowledge that behavior but also take

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Speaker 19: accountability for it is in stark contrast to the expectations

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Speaker 19: any member of Parliament.

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Speaker 4: Does Darline accept the findings of the report?

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Speaker 19: Honestly, Francisca, this is something which I would really encourage

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Speaker 19: you to put to Darlinge. At this point in time.

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Speaker 19: It's honestly not quite clear what her position, view or

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Speaker 19: otherwise is. We've made it clear what it is that

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Speaker 19: we believe has to happen here, which is for her

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Speaker 19: to resign so that we are all able to move forward,

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Speaker 19: and that would be my plea. You know, if she

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Speaker 19: Party copopper, but also our foundational belief that no one

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Speaker 19: then the best way to bring about an end to

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Speaker 4: So Chloe, if she doesn't resign from parliament, will you

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Speaker 4: try and force this by invoking the Walker jumping law.

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Speaker 19: So this is not a discussion that we've yet had

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Speaker 19: with our caucus or with our party, as was well

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Speaker 19: Chevast at the stand up today. Of course, we have

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Speaker 19: a long track record opposing legislation as well. So that's

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Speaker 19: why it's important that everybody knows that right now this

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Speaker 19: ball sits in Darlene's court and we would expect that

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Speaker 19: the Green as this investigation has been underway, that there

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Speaker 19: is due scrutiny now on Darlene Dana and her position.

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Speaker 4: But if her behavior is as bad as you say

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Speaker 4: it has. Would you consider doing that again?

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Speaker 19: What I'm saying to you right now is that we

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Speaker 19: have not made a decision on what happens if Darlene

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Speaker 19: The Greens very proudly make decisions in a collective basis.

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Speaker 19: So where Darline to put us in a position where

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Speaker 19: then of course we would have to go back to

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Speaker 19: having some form of discussion about what comes next. I'm

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Speaker 4: That, thank you. Darlinge is a listing piece. She got

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Speaker 4: less than three thousand votes. She doesn't have the public

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Speaker 4: backing to be an independent. Surely you have to force

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Speaker 19: Yeah, And look, the reality is politically, legislatively or otherwise,

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Speaker 19: myself and Martama as co leaders, protecting the integrity and

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Speaker 19: the natural justice of this independent expert inquiry such that

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Speaker 19: we could have robust, evidential findings that didn't have any

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Speaker 19: polase finger on the sky, so that we could come

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Speaker 19: to very clear decisions on what needed to happen next

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Speaker 19: without kind of anybody, as I said before putting their

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Speaker 22: To that effect.

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Speaker 19: Into your question is to whether she has the public

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Speaker 19: mandate to stay on. Look, she was as she was elected,

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Speaker 19: rather as you say, as a Green List MP. All

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Speaker 19: across the country mobilized to end up getting over three

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Speaker 19: hundred thousand New Zealanders to put their face, their trust

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Speaker 19: very clear that Duln Tunner's actions, in our very strong view,

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Speaker 19: has breached all of those things.

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Speaker 4: Finally, Chloe, is there anything in this report that would

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Speaker 4: make you consider going to the police.

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Speaker 19: No, there's nothing in the report that would currently make

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Speaker 19: me consider going to police. Know but also, as I

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Speaker 19: said at the stand up, look, we remain open and

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Speaker 19: willing to engage with whomever, you know, whatever is needed

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Speaker 19: terms of getting justice in this process.

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Speaker 4: That was Chloe Swarbrick there, the co leader of the

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Speaker 4: Green Party, and we have just received a statement from

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Speaker 4: Darlene Tana. I can confirm that I received a copy

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Speaker 4: of the final report on Saturday morning and attended a

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Speaker 4: not feel that natural justice has been followed during this process,

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Speaker 4: and it's Saturday's hue. It seemed clear that a predetermined

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Speaker 4: can confirm, as indicated during today's conference with the Green

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Speaker 4: Party leadership, that I have subsequently resigned as a member

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Speaker 4: of the Green Party. I'm reading you the press relieve

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Speaker 4: a statement which has just been released from Darling Tana.

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Speaker 4: She continues, I want to make it clear that I

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Speaker 4: do not accept the findings of the report and believe

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Speaker 4: that it substantially misrepresents the level of my involvement in

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Speaker 4: my husband's business. This was an investigation into what I

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Speaker 4: knew and should have disclosed to my party leadership. I'm

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Speaker 4: therefore deeply concerned by the his summary of the findings.

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Speaker 4: The report does not say that migrant exploitation has occurred,

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Speaker 4: let alone that I'm responsible for it in any capacity.

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Speaker 4: I have only a short time to consider this report

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Speaker 4: and am taking some time to consider it before making

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Speaker 4: any further comment. So that has just been released. That

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Speaker 4: is the statement from Darlene Tanner Right News Talk ZDB

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Speaker 4: it air is a fifteen past.

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Speaker 3: Five here the duplicy Ellen right.

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Speaker 4: Pressure is continuing to mount on US President Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: to step down on the next election. During a leadership

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Speaker 4: call over night, a number of senior House Democrats agreed

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Speaker 4: that Biden should step aside following his disastrous debate last week.

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Speaker 4: The president has been trying to clear his name doing

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Speaker 4: media interviews and a pre recorded sit down with ABCN

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Speaker 4: US we Hear addressed allegations of being unfit for office.

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Speaker 3: Is a bad episode.

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Speaker 23: I no one a keys, very serious, conditional, as exhausted.

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Speaker 12: I did listen to my hands. Thanks in terms of

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Speaker 4: Dan Mitchenson is a US correspondent and he joins me.

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Speaker 12: Now, how are you doing, Dan hi Franchisa good?

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Speaker 4: How much influence do these democrats have, the ones who

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Speaker 4: were speaking out behind closed.

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Speaker 12: Doors, Well quite a bit.

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Speaker 24: I mean, if you're to believe reports, they're about a

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Speaker 24: half dozen of these top members of the House that

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Speaker 24: held this meeting today and basically they're saying that we

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Speaker 24: have to get Joe Biden to withdraw from this election.

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Speaker 24: And mister Biden spent the day at a number of

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Speaker 24: campaign rallies where he was joking again about his age.

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Speaker 24: But there are, you know, just more and more people

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Speaker 24: that don't think he has a chance at this point

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Speaker 24: to be Donald Trump. So over in this corner you

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Speaker 24: have the other Democrats who are saying, okay, that would

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Speaker 24: mean Kamala Harris would have to step up and slide

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Speaker 24: into the role vacated by Biden.

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Speaker 12: But she just doesn't have the it factor.

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Speaker 24: I mean, some polls show right now that she's ahead

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Speaker 24: of mister Biden, maybe by two or three points, but

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Speaker 24: she hasn't had the support of day Democrats that she

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Speaker 24: really needs. And yet you can't really bypass her because

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Speaker 24: that's never been done. Even if you have somebody like

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Speaker 24: California Democrat Governor Gavin Newsom, who's been circling this party

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Speaker 24: for some time, despite him saying he's not and will

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Speaker 24: likely run in the election in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: Eight, Dan, Joe Biden seems very steadfast. I you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you'll go, well, are these calls

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Speaker 4: going to continue literally until election day?

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Speaker 3: Do you think? Well?

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Speaker 12: I think so.

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Speaker 24: I think we're going to have to find something out

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Speaker 24: in the next couple of weeks. I mean, you've got

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Speaker 24: Adam Smith, who's the ranking member of the Armed Services Committee.

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Speaker 24: You've got Jim Himes Connecticut, he's a ranking Democrat on

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Speaker 24: the Intelligence Committee.

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Speaker 12: And I mean, you know, they want to give mister

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Speaker 12: Biden room to.

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Speaker 24: Exit the race on his own terms before they make

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Speaker 24: a call for him to do so. But they're also

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Speaker 24: aware that there may be no way at this point

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Speaker 24: to prove to voters that he's not too old for

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Speaker 24: this task. But I think what's really interesting too, and

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Speaker 24: there was you know a number of health experts have

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Speaker 24: talked about this on the talk shows over the weekend

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Speaker 24: here on TV that said, how we're talking about Biden

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Speaker 24: right now, treating his age is systematic to a growing

876
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Speaker 24: problem in our country, agism. And he's got symptoms that

877
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Speaker 24: you know, are basically textbook cases that you find as

878
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Speaker 24: people get older. It's we had response time and you

879
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Speaker 24: can't find the words and so on. So you combine

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Speaker 24: that with little sleep, and if you really did have

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Speaker 24: a call Lake. He said, you know, they're saying that

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Speaker 24: anybody over the age of forty or forty five would

883
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Speaker 24: probably and I.

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Speaker 4: Don't think that that debate is going to stop as it. Dan, Hey,

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Speaker 4: thank you for the update. Really appreciate it. News Talk

886
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Speaker 4: ZB it is eighteen past five, a lot of techs

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Speaker 4: coming in. Keep them rolling on ninety two ninety two right.

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Speaker 4: The Tiano tennis community is celebrating Lulusim's massive achievement at Wimbledon.

889
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Speaker 4: Lulu Betbritish start Emma Radicanu in three sets overnight to

890
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Speaker 4: reach the Wimbledon quarter finals, the first key we female

891
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Speaker 4: to ever do so. And you'll know by now Lulu

892
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Speaker 4: grew up in Switzerland, but she was born in Tiano

893
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Speaker 4: and Tiano Tennis Club president Greg Shepherd is with me.

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Speaker 21: Now, good evening, Good evening, How are we going.

895
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Speaker 4: I'm good. You guys were all together watching last night.

896
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Speaker 25: We had a fair crew last night. Yeah, it was.

897
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Speaker 25: It was an epic evening. It was very exciting and

898
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Speaker 25: very nerve wrecking.

899
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Speaker 4: She certainly put you through your paces, but that's what

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Speaker 4: all good sport does. It's a roller coaster. So what

901
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Speaker 4: was the atmosphere like when she won.

902
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Speaker 25: Yeah, that was actually it was really good. It was

903
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Speaker 25: quite emotional. Actually there was a few tears she had

904
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Speaker 25: in the in the clubhouse there, but yeah, I know,

905
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Speaker 25: we're all just super proud.

906
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Speaker 4: When did Lulu first join the club?

907
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Speaker 25: We well, the first official game Lulu played for the

908
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Speaker 25: Tennis Club was in twenty eighteen at their annual Distinction

909
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Speaker 25: to Hotels Tennis Invitational. So we got her in to

910
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Speaker 25: do an exhibition match where she played Susie lark And

911
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Speaker 25: from Great Britain. But before that we just used to

912
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Speaker 25: provide heading partners for her when she'd come back from overseas.

913
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Speaker 25: So that was from about the age of thirteen and

914
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Speaker 25: she's now outgrown all of heir hitting partners based which

915
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Speaker 25: she's superful.

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Speaker 4: I was going to say, did it get to you

917
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Speaker 4: a point when no one responded to the call out?

918
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Speaker 25: Yeah? No, No, I wasn't enough to go. She would

919
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Speaker 25: have killed me. But yeah, I know a lot of

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Speaker 25: the top top male players went out there and came

921
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Speaker 25: back with a tail between the leagues.

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Speaker 4: Fantastic. How much further do you reckon Lowly will get

923
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Speaker 4: a win, Wooden?

924
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Speaker 25: Oh, she's going to go all the way looking at

925
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Speaker 25: that drawer. It just seems to be opening up for her.

926
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Speaker 25: And I think she's done the tricky matches. I think

927
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Speaker 25: she's just she's well. She certainly got some tough games

928
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Speaker 25: ahead of her. But she's got a different style game

929
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Speaker 25: than the rest of the ladies in there, I believe,

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Speaker 25: And it's she's just got too much pair, too much skill,

931
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Speaker 25: and she just seems so icy cam and cool and collected,

932
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Speaker 25: and nothing seems to phase her.

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Speaker 4: And hopefully not too exhausted yet.

934
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Speaker 25: No, no, she's just warming up, brilliant.

935
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Speaker 4: Have you been to sleep yet?

936
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Speaker 25: No, no, no, no, that all they have done. That's

937
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Speaker 25: probably going to happen once with wood and finishes. I

938
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Speaker 25: think the phone's been ringing red hot today. I think

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Speaker 25: we're the would be one of the most famous tennis

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Speaker 25: clubs in the world at the moment. Seems like it. Anyway.

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Speaker 4: If you expecting a few more sign ups this week, a.

942
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Speaker 25: Few more news, yeah, well you even know it's not.

943
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Speaker 25: It's not the tennis season, so it's tricky to tell.

944
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Speaker 25: But yeah, you never know, this could spur.

945
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Speaker 4: Something, I hope. So, hey, you have a great week,

946
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Speaker 4: Thank you so much of your time. That was Greg Shepherd,

947
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Speaker 4: who was the Tiano Tennis Club president. It is twenty

948
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Speaker 4: three past five.

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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather duper c

950
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Speaker 1: Allan drive with one New Zealand.

951
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Speaker 3: Let's get connected and us dogs.

952
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Speaker 4: That'd be thank you for your feedback this hour. Why

953
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Speaker 4: are we so excited about her? I'm talking about Lulu.

954
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Speaker 4: She played under the Swiss flag and then switched to

955
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Speaker 4: New Zealand. Was the Swiss straw too hard? I've got

956
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Speaker 4: no idea and I don't care. I just I'll take her.

957
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Speaker 4: You know, she was born in Tiano, her grandparents still

958
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Speaker 4: live there. She has returned to New Zealand quite often

959
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Speaker 4: played here and I think she's just giving us a

960
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Speaker 4: really positive, uplifting story for the week. And I'm going

961
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Speaker 4: to take that and I wish you all the best

962
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Speaker 4: and really excited that she's going to be playing for

963
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Speaker 4: US at the Olympics. And now the text are no

964
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Speaker 4: pressure for Lulu plus absolutely outstanding to get as far

965
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Speaker 4: as she has essentially top eight female players in the world,

966
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Speaker 4: I can letely agree with you. Like she was rated

967
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Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty third in the world. I think

968
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Speaker 4: that's impressive. Little one get into the quarter fighters in

969
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Speaker 4: a grand Slam. I think just being rated in the

970
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Speaker 4: world at anything would be absolutely amazing, wouldn't it. So

971
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Speaker 4: thank you very much for your takes a look with

972
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Speaker 4: the cynicism continues, Hi frand scrip. It's almost like the

973
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Speaker 4: Greens time to the release of today when both the

974
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Speaker 4: Hosk and he the Duplicity eleanor Away, they've both been

975
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Speaker 4: giving the Greens grief for this about this for the

976
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Speaker 4: last one hundred days. Word, I think they were just lucky.

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Speaker 2: The day's newsmakers talk to Heather first, Heather Duplicy Allan

978
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Speaker 2: Drive with one New Zealand. Let's get connected and news

979
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: talk as they'd.

980
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Speaker 3: Be light.

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Speaker 4: Now, don't forget that coming up here on hither to

982
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Speaker 4: person Alan Drive. I'm already changing the name of her

983
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Speaker 4: show for just after six o'clock, Chris Bishop is going

984
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Speaker 4: to be with us, of course, Associate Finance Minister. He's

985
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Speaker 4: going to be joining us to talk about a variety

986
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Speaker 4: of things. He also, of course is a sports minister.

987
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 4: What a good gig that would be. I think that's

988
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Speaker 4: that'll be what you'd go for. A few decided to

989
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 4: get development right, so let's get a bit of an

990
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 4: explainer about what is actually happening now. In the case

991
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Speaker 4: of Darling Tana, as it stands, she was elexed on

992
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Speaker 4: the Greens list but resigned her membership of the party.

993
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 4: In her electorate, she came a distant third with fewer

994
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Speaker 4: than three thousand votes. So Darling Tanner lest her statement

995
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 4: in the past half hour, saying she does not accept

996
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 4: the findings of the report and is deeply concerned by

997
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 4: the party's summary of the findings. She says the report

998
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 4: does not say that migrant exploitation occurred, let alone that

999
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 4: she is responsible for it in any capacity. Tana says

1000
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Speaker 4: she's only had a short time to consider the report

1001
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Speaker 4: and will be taking some time to consider it. So

1002
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Speaker 4: political analyst Bryce Edwardsman Victoria University of Wellington is with us.

1003
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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: How are you doing? Bryce?

1005
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 8: Not so bad?

1006
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Speaker 4: Francesca, what do you make of Darling's response?

1007
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 3: Oh?

1008
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Speaker 8: Look, this is her only response she can make if

1009
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Speaker 8: she wants to fight to stay in Parliament, she will

1010
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 8: have to contest what the Greens are saying, and if

1011
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 8: she is to have any sort of argument justification for staying,

1012
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 8: it's that she hasn't been treted barely and that the

1013
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 8: investigation is in correct. Otherwise it's hard to see how

1014
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 8: she's got a leg to stand on. So yeah, it's

1015
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 8: quite surprising, and until the Greens are ready to release

1016
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Speaker 8: that report, it's really hard for the public to judge

1017
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Speaker 8: her arguments that she's still innocent.

1018
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 4: What are the options here for Darling stay as an independent?

1019
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, she's been elected and to write to stay

1020
00:50:55,640 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 8: there unless the Greens and bring in the Walker jumping legislation.

1021
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 8: All they have to do is essentially right to the Speaker.

1022
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 8: There's a bit more to it. They need to get

1023
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 8: the permission of their membership and they need to give

1024
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 8: Darling Tana a twenty one day's notice and a chance

1025
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 8: for her to address this idea. But essentially they write

1026
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 8: to the Speaker and say, look, we've lost one of

1027
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Speaker 8: our MPs. Darling Tana is no longer a Green member

1028
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Speaker 8: of caucus and that thoughts the proportionality of Parliament, and

1029
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 8: then the Speaker essentially dismisses her. But of course whether

1030
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 8: they do that is a big question because.

1031
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 4: There have always opposed the jumping, don't they.

1032
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Speaker 8: Yes, But of course they now benefit from it, so

1033
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 8: they're going to have to I mean, unless Darling Tana

1034
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 8: chooses to resign, they're going to have to decide whether

1035
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 8: they just put up with her being there or whether

1036
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 8: they look like hypocrites or opportunists by using something they

1037
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Speaker 8: are fundamentally opposed to.

1038
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Speaker 4: So, Bryce, how do you see this whole thing playing out?

1039
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 8: Look, it's a bit hard to say at this stage,

1040
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Speaker 8: but I think she's likely Darling Towna likely to stay

1041
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 8: as an independent. She could even join a party liked

1042
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Speaker 8: Pardy Marie, because otherwise it's going to be very lonely

1043
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 8: with her by herself in Parliament, and you know she'll

1044
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 8: we have a huge pressure, so it won't be an

1045
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 8: easy ride if she chooses to step But of course

1046
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 8: it might just the pressure might get to her and

1047
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,919
Speaker 8: she might want to move away from politics and tiling.

1048
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 4: I think we'd all quite like to move on, Bryce,

1049
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 4: one and sixteen days. You know, this investigation's gone on.

1050
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 4: We're all over it.

1051
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 8: It is quite fast. Coal and the Greens haven't really

1052
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,959
Speaker 8: fronted up about why it's taking so long and why

1053
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 8: they haven't been more transparent about what's going on, And

1054
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 8: so I don't think there's a lot of sympathy at

1055
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Speaker 8: the moment for the Greens or Darlene Tanner, and it

1056
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 8: doesn't really reflect well on any of them a moment,

1057
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 8: so I think they're all kind of the losers in

1058
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Speaker 8: the situation.

1059
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Speaker 4: Bryce Edwards, thank you very much the huddle with New

1060
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Speaker 4: Zealand Southerby's International Realty Exceptional marketing for every property. And

1061
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Speaker 4: joining me today Trish Sharson from Sheerson Willis PR Good afternoon, Hello,

1062
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 4: good to have you in the studio. Nick Leggett is

1063
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Speaker 4: also with us from Infrastructure New Zealand. How are you

1064
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 4: doing that?

1065
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 3: Hello?

1066
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Speaker 25: Very well.

1067
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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm exhausted by this whole thing. We've been talking

1068
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 4: about it for one hundred and fifteen days. Trish, what

1069
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 4: do you make of the Greens calling for her resignation

1070
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 4: from Parliament?

1071
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 26: This is an absolute nightmare for the Greens. It's their

1072
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 26: worst nightmare, I think. And there were absolute scenes at

1073
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Speaker 26: this press conference today, scenes that I had never imagined

1074
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 26: the Greens or that they would have imagined they were facing.

1075
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Speaker 26: For instance, they were facing questions from one of the

1076
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Speaker 26: journalists in the press gallery about is the Greens an

1077
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 26: unsafe space for Wahini Mahis? Are they racist? I mean,

1078
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 26: you know, I think the Greens had never thought they

1079
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Speaker 26: were be facing those questions. And you know, thinking about

1080
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 26: what has just been said from Bryce about the possibility

1081
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 26: of if Darlene stayed there could be the possibility that

1082
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Speaker 26: she could join to party Madi, there seemed to be

1083
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 26: a narrative if you think about that. Today, developing this

1084
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 26: has been very shoddy for the Greens. The process has

1085
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 26: taken way too long. I was amazed today though about

1086
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Speaker 26: how tough Chloe Swarbrick was in that press conference.

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Speaker 4: It was very ungreen like.

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Speaker 26: It was a one eighty difference between the press conference

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Speaker 26: held around around Goldras Garinaeum earlier in the year, where

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Speaker 26: it was all about you know, her wonderful pedigree and everything,

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Speaker 26: and very little about the shoplifting.

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Speaker 4: Problems.

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Speaker 26: So the next few days are going to be interesting.

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Speaker 26: The Greens obviously wanted a quick resignation from Darlene over

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Speaker 26: the weekend. They wanted her to did be out of

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Speaker 26: caucus and out of Parliament. So today they could have

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Speaker 26: had a clean press conference and gone it's all dealt with.

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Speaker 26: I just don't think that's going to happen for them now.

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Speaker 4: I got very short curt answers from Chloe Swarbrick today, Nick,

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Speaker 4: which is quite unusual. You know, what do you make

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Speaker 4: of this whole scenario? What do you think Darling will do.

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Speaker 25: Well?

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Speaker 21: If her behavior today has anything to go by, She's

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Speaker 21: going to dig in and not cooperate with the party hierarchy.

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Speaker 21: Lo the Greens are you know this is this is

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Speaker 21: not just an isolated incident in the sense that they've

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Speaker 21: had a tumultuous few months. Some of that is with

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Speaker 21: MP behavior, some of it is with tragedy with official

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00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 21: columns as passing. James Shaw of course has left. They

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Speaker 21: want this now to go away, and my view is

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Speaker 21: that they've really got to invoke the Wucker Jumping Act

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Speaker 21: if they want to preserve any credibility here. This is

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Speaker 21: the Wucker Jumping Act is about preserving As Bryce Edwoods says,

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00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 21: the proportionality of parliament. Having a member of Parliament, a

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00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 21: member of your corkers, go west and do whatever they

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00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 21: like is not really what the spirit of MMP is about.

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Speaker 21: She was appointed by the party in electronalist. They need

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Speaker 21: to clean house and they need to move on. And

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Speaker 21: I hope that that Chloe shwawbricks mood of today and

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Speaker 21: the attitude that she has shown will continue and we'll

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Speaker 21: get to that outcome where darning Tana is removed from

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Speaker 21: Parliament and the Greens get their next person up.

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Speaker 4: We haven't seen the report, obviously, tris this is the problem.

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Speaker 4: We haven't seen the report. It's so frustrating. But Chloe's

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Speaker 4: telling us it's really bad. You've got done and going no,

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00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 4: it's not too bad at all. The Wacker jumping route.

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00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 4: It almost feels tresh like it's going to come down

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00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 4: to who the what the Green or who the Greens

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Speaker 4: hates more? You know, of which are they're going.

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Speaker 5: To go either way?

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Speaker 26: There are dead rats to swallow. And again that's one

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Speaker 26: of the problems for the Greens today that they couldn't

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Speaker 26: release the report today. So what they've said is, and

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Speaker 26: I understand there are privacy issues around it because obviously

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00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 26: in that report it names a lot of I imagine the

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Speaker 26: individuals who had raised issues through the report. So they've

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Speaker 26: got to get you know, get it cleared to be

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Speaker 26: able to release it. I think that's probably the issue

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Speaker 26: with the report. So they couldn't release that. So we're

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Speaker 26: having to take a sort of Chloe on her word

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00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 26: about how bad it is. But this is what tells me,

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00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 26: something has gone terribly wrong here. Think about how strident

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00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 26: Chloe was in her language about not only the severity

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00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 26: of the seriousness of what you know allegedly Darlene has

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00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 26: has done, but Chloe Lou used words like I feel betrayed.

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00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 26: On the other side, in Darlene's statement today, you have

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00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 26: her saying, effectively, this was just about what she did

1148
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 26: or didn't know, and it's not that she was involved

1149
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 26: in the alleged behavior. So it's like black and white

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00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 26: at this point.

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Speaker 4: Okay, don't you think, though, Nick, if we're going to

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Speaker 4: have independent investigations and they're going to take one hundred

1153
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 4: and fifteen hundred and sixteen days, if you take part

1154
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 4: in it, should you not just sign a form then

1155
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 4: and there that says that you are happy for the

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00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 4: report to be released. I don't understand why we're chasing

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Speaker 4: these people.

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00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 21: Look, I'm involved in a review not quite as controversial

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00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 21: as this, but nonetheless sensitive at the moment, and those

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00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 21: sort of undertakings can be given upfront to people who

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Speaker 21: are interviewed. That's not hard. But of course it's always

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Speaker 21: going to be sensitive, But nonetheless there's significant public interest here.

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Speaker 21: I also note that the Green said they were funder

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00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 21: this themselves after a certain amount of time had elapsed,

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00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 21: but it turns out it turns out they're just funding

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00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 21: it through the Parliamentary leader's budget, so taxpayers are paying

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00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 21: either way. There's just a bit of less discretionary funding

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Speaker 21: I think for the Greens now that they've chosen to

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Speaker 21: fund it from there from the leader's budget. But look,

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Speaker 21: it does need to be drawn to a close. If

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Speaker 21: you're the Green Party, you're actually doing pretty well in

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Speaker 21: the polls despite everything that's going on. You do not

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Speaker 21: need this to continue. You want to be on the

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00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 21: job of opposition at a time when you think that

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Speaker 21: there is significant capital to be made opposing the new government.

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Speaker 21: So it is this, This will needs to This will

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Speaker 21: continue to bleed unless they can actually take an action,

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Speaker 21: and that action appears to be going down the Wucker

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Speaker 21: jumping route.

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Speaker 4: You are with the Huddle. We're going to take a

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Speaker 4: quick break back in just a moment.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's in today store Realty,

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Speaker 1: unparalleled reach and results.

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Speaker 4: Trish Herson and Nick Leggett are with me. Trish, forty

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Speaker 4: thousand people in New Zealand go without power each year

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Speaker 4: because they can't pay the power bills. Consumer thinks power

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Speaker 4: should not be shut off for people who don't pay.

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Speaker 4: Is it realistic?

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Speaker 26: Well, it's a great headline for consumer, but if you

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Speaker 26: dig under it, how on earth is that going to happen?

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Speaker 26: And actually, we have to pay for power. That's just

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Speaker 26: the way that it works. I do know also that

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Speaker 26: for the major power companies now, because of the tragic

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Speaker 26: circumstances that happened back in two thousand and seven, where

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Speaker 26: you know, if Afarno was cut off who relied on

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Speaker 26: on power and was a very terrible event, power companies

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Speaker 26: now have to go through a number of steps before

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Speaker 26: there is a disconnection, and on the flip side, to

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Speaker 26: get people back on there are a number of options,

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Speaker 26: like the kind of prepayment in your home that you

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Speaker 26: can have. I just I don't think it's realistic to say,

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Speaker 26: you know that we can just have a situation where

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Speaker 26: people don't have to pay Nick is par too expensive?

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01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 25: Well?

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Speaker 21: Everything's too expensive, isn't it. I mean I think that

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Speaker 21: what we're we're looking at here is hardship is increasing

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Speaker 21: across the board. I don't think any kere We likes

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Speaker 21: the idea of a children living in a home and

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01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 21: winter that doesn't have the power on, and I think

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Speaker 21: that there should be steps to support people who are

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Speaker 21: living in energy hardship. If you think about you know,

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Speaker 21: we live in a cold country in winter, and housing

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01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 21: we know in many parts of the country is not

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Speaker 21: up to the standard that actually preserves or enhances people's health.

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Speaker 21: Turning the electricity off adds to that for children. So

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Speaker 21: I think it's more around the support of people, the

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01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 21: better support of people who are suffering hardship. It's the

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01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 21: approach that both places like MSD can take, but also

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Speaker 21: the power companies themselves, like Trish. You can't just say

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Speaker 21: you're never going to cut off people's power because you

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01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 21: actually empower people in those instances who deliberately won't pay

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Speaker 21: a bill and never have any will never have any

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Speaker 21: intention of doing so. So we've got to be sensible here.

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Speaker 21: But I think that it's also around sensitivity to those

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Speaker 21: who are in circumstances and who are vulnerable where their

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01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 21: health is going to be impacted, and particularly children. So

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Speaker 21: it's just it's a policy approach. It's not a black

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Speaker 21: or white situation.

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Speaker 4: Oh look, I couldn't agree more. Let's get to the

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Speaker 4: really serious topic of the day. Our prices might be

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Speaker 4: going up, but grocery supplies keep shrinking our food. So

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Speaker 4: my producer is very concerned that biscuits are getting smaller.

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01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 4: It might be a good thing for the waistline. I

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01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 4: personally am fed up of opening a packet of chips

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01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 4: and there's just no chips in there. And people tell

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01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 4: me you need air in that chip bag, but there's

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Speaker 4: only third the packs field with the third of chips.

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Speaker 4: It's ridiculous trash that.

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Speaker 26: Well, this is my personal, my personal little rant on this.

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Speaker 26: One of my favorite things in the is the marshmallow

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01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 26: Easter eggs that you get with the yolk in the center.

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Speaker 8: Yep.

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Speaker 26: A couple of years ago Cadbury just cut the egg

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01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 26: and well it's not even egg now, it's just half

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01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 26: a sort of a half round chocolate marshmallow. I find

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01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 26: that so outrageous and so not in the spirit.

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01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 4: Of Well, it's not in the spirit of Easter?

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Speaker 26: Is it because they didn't know?

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Speaker 4: Did you be angry about it? Just mingji, It's just

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Speaker 4: you've got a pet winge.

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Speaker 15: With this nick.

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Speaker 21: Well, I'd like to second that, because I too look

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Speaker 21: forward to those eggs every year. The other one. I mean,

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Speaker 21: for me, it's the it's the biscuits, right, they shrink,

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Speaker 21: and you know the we buy kids those chocolate chippy

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Speaker 21: sort of they've got the sort of chocolate chips and

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Speaker 21: my cameral they're called. I'm quite partial to them myself.

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Speaker 21: They have shrunk and look part of it. You're absolutely

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01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 21: right our waistlines would be thankful, but actually you're paying

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01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 21: the same. Actually you're paying more for less. And when

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Speaker 21: you buy those bags of chippies, you're not paying for

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Speaker 21: the fresh air of the bag. You're paying for the content,

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Speaker 21: i e.

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Speaker 9: The chips.

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Speaker 21: So look, you can understand that this is economizing on

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Speaker 21: behalf of food manufacturers, but you're going to annoy customers.

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Speaker 21: And I think that people should be given the option to,

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01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 21: you know, to pay a bit more to get a

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Speaker 21: bit more, and we're not given that option at the moment,

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Speaker 21: and that to me seems pretty unfair.

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Speaker 26: In good news, I saw out of the States today

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Speaker 26: a story from some of those very big multinational supplies

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Speaker 26: saying we can't we can't do this kind of stuff

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Speaker 26: anymore because of pressure on from around.

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Speaker 4: The cost of living. I think basically we've been told

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01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 4: that we just have to make these things ourselves. Trasherson

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Speaker 4: and Nick Legott, thank you so much for your time

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Speaker 4: today five to five five.

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Speaker 1: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app, and in

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01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: your car on.

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Speaker 3: Your drive home.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy allan drive with One New Zealand one Giant

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Speaker 1: Leap for Business News Talk Zibby, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Very much for all your feedback. Someone else has mentioned

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01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 4: shower gel. The holes are getting bigger, so it will

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01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 4: use twice as much soap. Yeah, I had that problem

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01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 4: with shampoo recently as well. Paters, let me know that

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Speaker 4: the air is needed to keep the chips fresh, and

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Speaker 4: I know that, but there are definitely less chips in

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Speaker 4: the packet. There's always been some air in the packet, Peter.

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Speaker 1: I know that.

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Speaker 4: I know that's why it's there. But you open up

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01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 4: a packet now and you go, hey, fake family, let's

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01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 4: all share this packet of chips, and goodness me, really

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01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 4: you need to tell two members of the family to

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Speaker 4: go off and do something else so that you know

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Speaker 4: two of you can eat the chips. It's just it's

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Speaker 4: not satisfactory. I'll get to more of your text next hour.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much for sending them through. Don't forget

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Speaker 4: that after news which is next here on News Talks,

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Speaker 4: he'd be Chris Bership, the Associate Finance Minister, is going

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Speaker 4: to be with us. You're with News Talks. Hereby quotes,

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Speaker 4: Oh get close, Oh I get with my.

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Speaker 1: We're Business Insight the business hours with my HR on

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Speaker 1: News Talks.

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Speaker 4: AV good to have you with us. I'm Francisca Rudkins

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Speaker 4: filling in for Heather tonight with you until seven pm now.

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Speaker 4: Nicola Willison is also away today but standing in for

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Speaker 4: her as the Finance Minister. Chris Bishop, he's also the

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Speaker 4: Associate Finance Minister. How's Housing Minister, Infrastructure Minister and Sports minister?

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Speaker 4: Is really quite exhausting, Chris.

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Speaker 27: Just coming through that it's the old time.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about Darlene Tanner. What should happen to her?

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Speaker 25: Wow?

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Speaker 27: This a chakra, isn't it?

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Speaker 8: It's real.

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Speaker 27: Look, it's really over to the Greens. They've coming out

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Speaker 27: today and said that basically to stand down as an MP.

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Speaker 27: I see a statements just come through from her saying

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Speaker 27: at least for the moment, she's not doing that. She

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Speaker 27: gets the findings of the report. She says they haven't

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Speaker 27: given her any natural justice. It seems to be a

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Speaker 27: bit of a stitch up. As my sort of general

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Speaker 27: take on it. I don't know the actual facts of it.

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Speaker 27: I don't think anyone does. You know, obviously people have

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Speaker 27: seen the public reporting around allegations of migrant exploitation and

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Speaker 27: things like that. She's now been under investigation for longer

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Speaker 27: than she's actually been an MP, and you know, at

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Speaker 27: vast expense. So look, it's a bit of a mess. Really,

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Speaker 27: it's over to them to sort it out, but all

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Speaker 27: feels pretty messy. She's now an independent MP. Of course

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Speaker 27: in the Parliament, the Greens can't actually make her resign

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Speaker 27: as an MP, so they've essentially expelled her from the caucus.

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Speaker 27: It feels like a bit of a mess to me.

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Speaker 4: So is this a clear case for a walker jumping Bill.

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Speaker 27: Wellsation. It's quite technical. The first thing, the Greens have

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Speaker 27: historically opposed to walker jumping to be feather them. They've

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Speaker 27: had a very principle position against it. And then secondly,

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Speaker 27: from memory, I haven't read the Act for a while,

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Speaker 27: you do have to show that the person who's expelled

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Speaker 27: from the party X disproportionately so that she would have

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Speaker 27: to start voting against the Greens on things, and of

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Speaker 27: course it's only just happened today and there haven't been

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Speaker 27: any votes in Parliament or anything like that, so let's

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Speaker 27: just wait and see. But it feels to me like

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Speaker 27: they won't they won't use it because historically that's been

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Speaker 27: very opposed to it, So let's just wait and see.

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Speaker 27: But's it's pretty messy, isn't it. And it feels feels

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Speaker 27: to me, Francesca, like there's a bit of a way

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Speaker 27: to run on this.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, Minister, you made a call last week to flood

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Speaker 4: New Zealand with housing. Are you surprised by the backlash

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Speaker 4: against the shoe box shoe box housing?

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Speaker 27: Well, I don't know if there'd be if I would

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Speaker 27: call it a backlash, it's been a bit of public

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Speaker 27: debate around it. I mean, I just made this simple

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Speaker 27: point that yep, shoebox apartments, they aren't for everybody, but

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Speaker 27: you know there are a lot bigger than people living

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Speaker 27: in cars and tents, which is you know, definitely the

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Speaker 27: case in New Zealand right now, and so you know,

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Speaker 27: small apartments aren't going to be for every everybody, but

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Speaker 27: it's about housing choice and we need smaller apartments. We

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Speaker 27: need bigger apartments. We need suburban houses, we need duplexes,

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Speaker 27: we need terraced houses, we need townhouses, we need big mensions.

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Speaker 25: We need everything.

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Speaker 27: We need all of the above. And that's what our

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Speaker 27: housing policy is about creating. Is about housing choices and

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Speaker 27: housing supply so that people can choose the way they

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Speaker 27: live their lives. And at the moment, we've got over

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Speaker 27: two thousand families living in motels, we've got people living

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Speaker 27: in cars, we've got people living in tents, we've got

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Speaker 27: people on the social housing wait list, and we've got

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Speaker 27: people paying very very high rents to live in not

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Speaker 27: particularly nice conditions. So solving our housing crisis is about

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Speaker 27: fixing the underlying courses of that, which is land supply

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Speaker 27: inside our cities and at the edges of our cities

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Speaker 27: and different housing typologies. And that's what we're about creating.

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Speaker 4: But you can understand why councils are concerned about the infrastructure.

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Speaker 27: Around us, absolutely and absolutely, and we're working away on that.

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Speaker 27: And there's the sort of three pillars to our housing policy.

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Speaker 27: One is land supply. We made then announce around that

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Speaker 27: last week. The second is the infrastructure all so that

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Speaker 27: growth can pace growth, making sure we can build the

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Speaker 27: infrastructure required to support that. And we're working away on that,

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Speaker 27: and I have more to say in the next you

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Speaker 27: know a few months around that. And then the third

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Speaker 27: part of it is incentives for councils, because I hear

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Speaker 27: the call of councils and they say, well, you know,

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Speaker 27: you guys in the central government, you get all the

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Speaker 27: upside from new houses, we get all the downside. We

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Speaker 27: get none of the none of the benefits. So you know,

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Speaker 27: share the love a bit. So I understand that, and

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Speaker 27: we're working away on that and we're committed to that

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Speaker 27: as well. So all of those, all of that stuff's underway,

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Speaker 27: but it's pretty exciting. You know, we're making really good

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Speaker 27: changes to fix our housing crisis.

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Speaker 4: Auguran Council voted to oppose your request to increase speed

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Speaker 4: limits again. Is this organ council telling you to side

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Speaker 4: off again?

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Speaker 27: Chris, Well, this is this is Augrom Council being a

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Speaker 27: bit political. I think we campaigned on reversing the blanket

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Speaker 27: speed limit reductions of the last government and we consider

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Speaker 27: ourselves to have a mandate to do that. And it's

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Speaker 27: not to say that you don't need lower speeds around schools,

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Speaker 27: you do, and we're in favor of that. But this

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Speaker 27: kind of blanket approach of lywering, you know, vast swaths

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Speaker 27: of city streets down to thirty conglor is an hour,

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Speaker 27: we don't think is the right thing to do, and

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Speaker 27: that's why we campaigned on it and we now implementing

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Speaker 27: that policy. It's out for consultation, so the councilor will

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Speaker 27: have a a submission as part of that consultation process,

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Speaker 27: and there'll be a variety of different views out there

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Speaker 27: in the community, but we're going to proceed with it.

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Speaker 4: Are you happy for counsels to do what they feel

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Speaker 4: is best for their city.

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Speaker 27: Well within limits. I mean, you know, we have a

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Speaker 27: clear policy and a clear rule that simi in Browns

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Speaker 27: advance in this Minister of Transport and so government has

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Speaker 27: a policy and you know what, there is obviously some

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Speaker 27: discretion within that, but you know, the broad policy of

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Speaker 27: the government is that we are reversing the blanket speed

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Speaker 27: lit reductions and actually in areas where you can increase

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Speaker 27: them up to you know, one hundred and ten and

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Speaker 27: we're consulted one hundred and twenty on four lane very

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Speaker 27: safe roads. You know, we'll do that as well.

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Speaker 4: How much does it cost to change all this again, Well.

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Speaker 27: Will be undoubtedly about some costs, but there's some cost

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Speaker 27: to lower the speed limits, so there'll be a cost

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Speaker 27: to reverse them. But as I say, we campaigned on it.

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Speaker 27: It was a popular policy that the National government and

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Speaker 27: Act as well for that matter, campaigned on, So there

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Speaker 27: will be some cost, but I think it'll be worth it.

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Speaker 4: There was a story over the weekend about public sector

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Speaker 4: employees getting pay rises by getting their annual leave paid out.

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Speaker 4: This doesn't seem like hugely controversial to me because I

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Speaker 4: know a lot of people who you know, they might

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Speaker 4: have quite a lot of holidays owed and they're allowed

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Speaker 4: to cash them in.

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Speaker 27: Is that essentially what's happening here as I understand it,

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Speaker 27: that's what's happening. So actually, National back in two thousand

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Speaker 27: and nine allowed employees to cash up a week and

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Speaker 27: manual leave, which is essentially what they're doing. So I

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Speaker 27: don't have a problem with it. That's the way the

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Speaker 27: laws meant to You can cash it up if you like.

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Speaker 27: Is it a pay rise, well, I mean it's more money.

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Speaker 27: That's the reason why people do it. I don't think

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Speaker 27: it's right to call it a pay rise.

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Speaker 4: It's just cashing up and you'll leave which they've accumulated.

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Speaker 4: I presume, I presume you're doing this because you want

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Speaker 4: to get you want to get the I mean it

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Speaker 4: generally happens when you've accumulated too much and companies get

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Speaker 4: uncomfortable with how much you're sitting on.

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Speaker 27: Right Yeah, well yeah exactly if the flip side is

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Speaker 27: you know you're not taking the leave, so you're catching

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Speaker 27: it up. So you know, it's about an extra extra

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Speaker 27: choice for people. Really, it's people. You know, people are

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Speaker 27: going to make the decisions that best fit them.

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Speaker 4: With your sports minister hat on, how good? So no soon,

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Speaker 4: isn't she fantastic?

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Speaker 27: Brilliant, absolutely brilliant quarterfinal and she knocked over Emma RADICANU fantastic.

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Speaker 27: So I'm looking forward to watching the quarter final. I

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Speaker 27: mean imagine if she went all the way that would

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Speaker 27: just be amazing, you know. So I think it's awesome

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Speaker 27: for the on sport, and I've noticed a lot of

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Speaker 27: interest in atually just the last you know, twenty four

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Speaker 27: forty eight hours as she's marched on and how amazing

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Speaker 27: that she was a qualifier had to fight through the

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Speaker 27: qualified tournament. I was reading today that she is the

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Speaker 27: first qualifier to make the fourth round or the quarters

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Speaker 27: for quite a long time. I don't have the exact

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Speaker 27: I don't know the exact stats with me, but you know,

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Speaker 27: incredible that that very really happens.

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Speaker 15: Right.

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Speaker 27: Normally, what happens is a qualify goes through the qualifying

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Speaker 27: tournament and you know, they're exhausted, they get to the

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Speaker 27: first round, they get knocked over by one of the

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Speaker 27: top seeds in the first round. She's managed to make

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Speaker 27: it all the way through to the quarters. So it's

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Speaker 27: pretty amazing, which is why.

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Speaker 4: Emma Radakanu was talking about her being dangerous, because that's

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Speaker 4: exactly how she got through the US Open and ended

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Speaker 4: up winning the title as well qualified and then went

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Speaker 4: on to win. So if she does get to the final,

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Speaker 4: do you believe that really there should be a representative

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Speaker 4: from the government at Wimbledon.

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Speaker 27: I hadn't even thought about that. I mean, that would

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Speaker 27: be there's just wait and see Lusia's wait and see.

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Speaker 27: I think I'm pretty flute, pretty flat tak in the

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Speaker 27: next next week or so, but it would be pretty amazing,

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Speaker 27: no doubt. If she does make the Grand Final. I've

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Speaker 27: no doubt that our very hard working High commissioner over there,

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Speaker 27: sil Goth would I'm sure be delighted to represent you

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Speaker 27: Center Court, to represent the government. But that would be amazing.

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Speaker 27: But she's also gone to the Olympics in August for

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Speaker 27: the New Zealand so she's playing doubles with Aaron Rotliff

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Speaker 27: at the at the Olympics. So you know, you know,

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Speaker 27: I'm not I'm not sure we were thinking about a

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Speaker 27: medal through the Olympics as part of the tennis team,

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Speaker 27: but it'd be amazing to pack up of medal. Who knows.

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Speaker 4: Chris Boshop, thank you so much for your time today.

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Speaker 4: I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 25: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Righty home. It is what were on sixteen past six.

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Speaker 4: You're with some new stig XEBB.

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Speaker 1: Scrunching the numbers and getting the results. It's headed duplicy

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Speaker 1: Ellen with the business hours thanks to my HR the

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Speaker 1: HR platforms on Newstalb.

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Speaker 4: Many New Zealand homes are cold, damp and unhealthy to

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Speaker 4: live in. Did you know almost one in ten households

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Speaker 4: are concerned about significant mold in their home. That's why

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01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,679
Speaker 4: Habitat for Humanity New Zealand work with families and housing

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01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 4: need to make homes more habitable and healthier, from providing

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01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 4: critical home repairs through to installing double lined, full length

1514
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:27,879
Speaker 4: curtains to make a room warmer. Habitat's Warm Fuzzies campaign

1515
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 4: aims to raise funds to allow Habitat to continue their

1516
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 4: critical work helping New Zealand households and housing need and

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01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 4: to warmer, drier and healthier homes. It's a great cause,

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01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 4: and AMI Insurance agrees. AMI are proud supporters of Habitat

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01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,839
Speaker 4: and the Warm Fuzzies campaign. If you'd like to support

1520
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 4: Habitat's work by donating to habitat and get a warm

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01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 4: fuzzy yourself, head to habitat dot org dot nz slash

1522
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 4: warm Fuzzies. All donations go towards helping New Zealand families

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Speaker 4: in housing need have a warmer, dryer and safer home

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Speaker 4: this winter. That's habitat dot org dot NZ slash warm Fuzzies.

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01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 12: News talk said, be.

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01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:10,839
Speaker 4: Right, thank you for the feedback. The chip talk continues.

1527
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 4: Robbie tells where the error there is to stop the

1528
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 4: chips getting crushed. That too makes a lot of sense,

1529
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 4: but Robbie is still not enough chips anyway, I'm going

1530
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 4: to move on from that or hang on, we will talk.

1531
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 4: But Dave sent through a text there is so much

1532
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 4: noise regarding the supermarkets inflating prices. Your lighthearted bit on

1533
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 4: product sizes reducing reflects the reality that most of the

1534
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 4: food price increases come from suppliers. The largest suppliers are

1535
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 4: making far more than the supermarkets and are happy to

1536
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 4: support the commerce. Commissions focus on retailers who in reality

1537
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 4: operate on fairly low and fixed margins, albeit high volume.

1538
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 4: They want to fix food pricing, go to will source

1539
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 4: and stop the largest supply inflating their margins. So this

1540
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 4: commistry is very skewed. We even have an ex food

1541
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:57,480
Speaker 4: manufacturer as the commissioner, and Dave continues that the commissioner

1542
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 4: stopped the supermarkets bringing in an alternative wheat to protect

1543
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 4: his company's profits as so Max went to court and loss. Look,

1544
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 4: we were just making the point. They're not putting the

1545
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 4: prices up, but they're finding other ways in order to

1546
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 4: deal We're all dealing with the crisis somewhere. We're all

1547
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 4: dealing with the increased costs in products and manufacturing products especially,

1548
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 4: and this is just the way they're sort of countering it.

1549
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 4: But it'd be nice if there was just a you know,

1550
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 4: an honest chat about it, maybe talking about the housing.

1551
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 4: Pushing infrastructure costs onto developers and other text reads ultimately

1552
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 4: puts the cost onto the buyers or renters excessive rate

1553
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 4: increases of eighteen percent or more in Wellington, of forcing

1554
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 4: costs on to end users, the tenants. And this is

1555
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 4: of course one of the arguments that people are putting forward,

1556
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 4: saying it doesn't matter what size property you build, they

1557
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 4: are still going to struggle to be affordable. It is

1558
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 4: twenty one past six news storks a b.

1559
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:56,560
Speaker 3: Crunching the numbers and getting the results.

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01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 1: It's the Business Hour thanks to my HR the HL

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01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 1: platform for sme on.

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Speaker 4: Joining me now is Shane Solely from Harbord Asset Management.

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01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 4: How are you, Shane, hang on, I've got a fine chant.

1564
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 4: I've got it all the way to the top. Here

1565
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 4: here he is. That was my problem before, Shane.

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01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 17: How are you?

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01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 22: Yeah, well you're Francisco and really well yourself.

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01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, good, thank you. Apologies. I was in It was

1569
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,640
Speaker 4: in a text queue there and I missed you at

1570
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:29,719
Speaker 4: the top. Now tell me the Reserve Bank's next monetary

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01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 4: policy statement is due on Wednesday and it's widely expected

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01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 4: to keep the cash rate on hold.

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01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 1: Is that right?

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01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 22: That's right, that's right, that's right. And today we've had

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01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 22: this injured I shadow Board, which is made up of

1576
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 22: nine private sector economists, business people, academics, and they've come

1577
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 22: out and said, you know what this ghastline, the bit

1578
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 22: of slacking. The labor market place has falling back, but

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01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 22: not enough in their opinion for the Reserve Bank, and

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01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 22: you're going to start cutting rights. But interesting there's a

1581
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 22: couple of bit of contention than in the group. There

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01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 22: is your members thinking that early next year it needs

1583
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,719
Speaker 22: to happen. In one board number she said they should

1584
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 22: be cutting now. So we're getting closer, and I think

1585
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 22: interest rate markets are starting to think about it the

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01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 22: members when most people in the market I think about cuts,

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01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 22: and if we look forward to July next year, about

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01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 22: one percy that cuts baked. And so it's a little

1589
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 22: bit of tough times for borrowers to come but getting

1590
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 22: near a turning point.

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01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 4: Perhaps we have been well forwarned about that though, haven't

1592
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 4: we shame? I mean, a lot of people are thinking

1593
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 4: it's going to be sort of early twenty twenty five even.

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01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 22: Yeah, and that's right. And so what we're seeing globally

1595
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 22: is central banks getting to the end. They can see

1596
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 22: that the medicine of higher interest rates is working, but

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01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 22: they just want to see it really get on top

1598
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 22: of inflation. And so I think if you're a central banker,

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01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:41,639
Speaker 22: you're going to wait. You're going to wait for things

1600
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 22: to get particularly the heat coming out of inflation. But

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01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,719
Speaker 22: the economy is really coming down hard. We all notice,

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01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 22: we can see it. And that's going to what's lead

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01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 22: is going to lead this cutting cycle.

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01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 4: Do you think the bank might indicate a bit more

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01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 4: regarding the timing of any potential cut.

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01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 22: Yeah, great Christian process, because I think this is a

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01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 22: thinking about thinking about where we might be thinking about

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01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 22: thinking about cutting rates. That is something that is probably

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01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 22: not necessarily bakedon to capital markets, not into interestrate forecast.

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01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 22: And that's what we'll all be looking for as this

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01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 22: is in the next few days, is on Wednesdays, there's

1612
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 22: some Hey, we're thinking about it. We're starting to see

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01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 22: the tighter interest rates, the restraint on availability. It didn't

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01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 22: really start to hammer home.

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01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 4: Contact Energy's share price took ahead today. What happened Jane.

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01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 22: Yeah, look, Contact has been our great story from New Zealander.

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01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 22: This is they've done a good job of growing their

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01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 22: generation capability of the literacy generation. But they're coming out

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01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 22: today and cut their earnings for gusts and it really

1620
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 22: comes down to a little bit of technical stuff around

1621
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 22: this new portfolio of particularly geofilmal generation, just some slow

1622
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 22: down in terms of when the new generation geo thermal

1623
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 22: plant comes on. At the same time, they don't have

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01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,600
Speaker 22: access to the gas that used to be used to

1625
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 22: fill this generating requirements, so they've said we've got to

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01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 22: go and buy electricity in the open market. It's going

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01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 22: to cost us more because we don't have the GFM

1628
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 22: or plants. We've got some outlages coming through and we

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01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 22: just can't get excess to the gas. So they've trimmed.

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01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 22: Thereforecas on earning. Bit of a surprise. Haven't seen next

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01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 22: a little while from Contact. So yeah, share prizing it

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01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 22: up down four percent today at eight dollars seventy eight,

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01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 22: so give us surprise.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Shane, good to catch up with you.

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01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,719
Speaker 4: That was Shane Soley. They're from Harvard Asset Management. Coming

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01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 4: up shortly are the dairy processing companies, so they have

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01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 4: a dual die shareholder vote this Thursday. We're going to

1638
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 4: talk about what is potentially going to take place that

1639
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 4: is coming up here on you still ZB.

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01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 3: Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics.

1641
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 1: It's all on the Business Hour with my HR, the

1642
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 1: HR platform for SME US talks that'd be still.

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01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 4: Become this Our UK correspondent Gavin Gray will be with

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01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 4: us for right now. Teetering dairy processing company Sinlay's do

1645
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,440
Speaker 4: or die shareholder voters this Thursday, and a major shareholder

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01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 4: is keeping mum on how they'll vote. The voter is

1647
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 4: on whether to accept one hundred and thirty million dollar

1648
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 4: loan from Bright Dairy, which itself phones thirty nine percent

1649
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 4: of Sinlay, in order to repay some bank loans before

1650
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 4: they become due next week. So Bright Dairy can't vote

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01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 4: as they have a conflict of interest, so fifty one

1652
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 4: percent of the remaining shareholders need to approve the loan

1653
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 4: for it to go through. A two Milk, which has

1654
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,759
Speaker 4: been feuding with Sinley since last year, is Sinleay's second

1655
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 4: biggest shareholder and hasn't said how it'll cast its votes.

1656
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 4: George Adams is the chair of sin Lane. He's with

1657
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 4: me now, Hi, George, Hi for Jessica. So if this

1658
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:00,640
Speaker 4: loan doesn't get shareholder, what.

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01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 9: Happens pretty much are running out of runway Francesco on

1660
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 9: on on sin Lay.

1661
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 21: So who you know.

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01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 9: What it brings into really the future viability of the business,

1663
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 9: And we have to sit there and have a very

1664
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 9: hard conversation with our bank and obviously our other shareholder Bright.

1665
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 9: They might have some thoughts, but ultimately then it brings

1666
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 9: into question things like volutary administration or receivership.

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01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 4: Are you sure that you can get the money from

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01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 4: Bright Dairy?

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01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 9: A lot of assure you get the money from Bright

1670
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 9: Dairy for sure for one hundred and thirty million dollars up.

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01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 4: Absolutely shouldn't this be a glorified rubber stamp from the

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01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 4: shareholders If they don't want their avesement to evaporate, then

1673
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 4: they have to approve it, right.

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01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 9: You describe it particularly particularly sensibly. So I think it

1675
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 9: should be. But clearly I can't as a director. I'm

1676
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 9: setting you're, you know, at the best, really a shareholder.

1677
01:24:58,200 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 9: So they need to tell me what they want to

1678
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:02,639
Speaker 9: do going forward, and obviously the vote on Thursday gives

1679
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 9: them the opportunity to do that, and I very much

1680
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 9: would hope that they would vote for it.

1681
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 4: Have you asked A two what they're going to do?

1682
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 9: Oh, I mean, we're in constant dialogue with A two

1683
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 9: and they're very much aware of the fact that the

1684
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:20,839
Speaker 9: vote is on Thursday. And look, there's really not anything

1685
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,640
Speaker 9: particularly MACKI valiant about it. They just simply have not

1686
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 9: told us what way they are going to vote. They

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01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,639
Speaker 9: may vote for, they may vote against, they may abstain.

1688
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 9: I just don't know. So hopefully we'll find that out

1689
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 9: before Thursday.

1690
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 4: Why haven't they told you, Well, you have to.

1691
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 9: Ask them that, but you know they do have to frankly,

1692
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 9: but it is a piece of material information and we

1693
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 9: are required to give that level of material information to

1694
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,600
Speaker 9: the market if we have it. That's the reason for

1695
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 9: the announcements.

1696
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 4: And to think, you say, you'll need a good turnout

1697
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 4: of A two doesn't vote the way you want. Do

1698
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 4: you think you will get a good turnout?

1699
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 9: I mean, you can never anticipate, to be honest, to

1700
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 9: protest it. So what you try to do is try

1701
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 9: to give shareholders as much opportunity to have their say

1702
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 9: as possible, which is one of theans.

1703
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 25: You and I are talking.

1704
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 9: But clearly the balance of our shareholders, who own around

1705
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 9: forty one percent of their business, if they don't get

1706
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 9: out and vote and A two, for example, voted against,

1707
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 9: then really they've want to got themselves to.

1708
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 8: Blame.

1709
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 9: So what we want to do is want to make

1710
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 9: sure that there's no regrets on Friday morning that they've

1711
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 9: put out and they've had their say.

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01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 4: Is that the most important thing that you want the

1713
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 4: shareholders to know, George? Anything else?

1714
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 9: Pretty much that's it is. It's it's do or die

1715
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 9: on Thursday. We really appreciate if you tell us what

1716
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 9: you what way you want to vote on Thursday.

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01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 4: If you get your way, how long will this money last?

1718
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 4: I mean, is this going to change the future or

1719
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 4: are you going to be requiring more input at some point?

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01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 22: Oh?

1721
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 25: No, we've been.

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Speaker 9: We've we've been. We've been, super tigger, Frances. This is this,

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Speaker 9: This just buys us time to put the rest of

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Speaker 9: our deleveraging proposals into place. Ideally, clearly, this gets us

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Speaker 9: through the life down for the banks and then post

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Speaker 9: that we will be coming back to the market with

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Speaker 9: a few on an equal areas. We're just working through

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Speaker 9: that and whenever we have a full details on that,

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Speaker 9: well we will come back to the market. But for sure,

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Speaker 9: this this is this is the first step. This isn't

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Speaker 9: but this is not the full the full solution.

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Speaker 4: George Beast of Black on Thursday and hope you will.

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Speaker 22: Jeers.

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Speaker 4: That was George Adams. He was the chair of Sinlove

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Speaker 4: right most of us, I don't think we pay a

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Speaker 4: huge amount of attention to elections which are taking place

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Speaker 4: around the world. But actually twenty twenty four is this

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Speaker 4: really fascinating year for democracy. With more than eighty countries

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Speaker 4: hold elections, it is the biggest election year in global history.

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Speaker 4: So roughly half the world's population are going to have

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Speaker 4: the opportunity to cast a vote in local, regional, legislative

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Speaker 4: or presidential elections. It's amazing, it's really interesting. And elections

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Speaker 4: have already been held in places such as South Africa

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Speaker 4: and India and Taiwan and the UK with some pretty

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Speaker 4: interesting results. And then of course we had France in

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Speaker 4: the weekend as well. French centralists and left wing voters

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Speaker 4: breed the sigh of relief as the left wing Alliance

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Speaker 4: did better than expected in the election exit poll for

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Speaker 4: the National Assembly. The New Popular Front has emerged as

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Speaker 4: the shock winner in France's snap election over the National Rally.

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Speaker 4: But what this means is a hung election of three

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Speaker 4: opposing blocks with hugely different platforms who don't work together.

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Speaker 4: So we've got months of gridlock ahead while we wait

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Speaker 4: to see if the government can be formed. France can't

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Speaker 4: hold another election for a year under their constitution, So

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Speaker 4: another very interesting election, but a very frustrating time for

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Speaker 4: the French. But you know what, it is summer and

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Speaker 4: the Olympics are about to start, so there is quite

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Speaker 4: a lot to distract people with. And then of course

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Speaker 4: we've got the big show which is taking place in

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Speaker 4: the US and getting so much our attention. With the

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Speaker 4: President Biden doubling down this weekend on remaining on the

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Speaker 4: ticket as the Democratic nominee. How can you not be

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Speaker 4: utterly fascinated with what is happening around the world when

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Speaker 4: it comes to politics and these elections. As I say,

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Speaker 4: it's this biggest election here in global history. Interestingly, though,

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Speaker 4: I discovered in the weekend when I was reading about

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Speaker 4: the French election, actually that you know how we have

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Speaker 4: these terms that we just use freely, the left wing

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Speaker 4: and the right wing, and they're used as these symbolic

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Speaker 4: labels for you liberals and conservatives discovered where those expressions

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Speaker 4: actually originally came from, and it was the French Revolution. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so we have actually gained something from French politics. And

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Speaker 4: it goes right back to seventeen eighty nine when members

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Speaker 4: of the French National Assembly they were drafting a constitution.

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Speaker 4: They were trying to work out how much authority the

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Speaker 4: king should have, and as the debate carried on, these

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Speaker 4: two main factions kind of each staked out territory in

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Speaker 4: the Assembly hailed So the anti royalists, the revolutionaries, they

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Speaker 4: seated themselves to the left, and the more conservative aristocratic

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Speaker 4: supporters of the monarchy they went to the right. And

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Speaker 4: that's sort of how it kind of began. Newspapers began

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Speaker 4: making reference to the progressive left and the traditionalist right.

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Speaker 4: That was in the seventeen nineties, and by the mid

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Speaker 4: nineteenth century, left and right had even expanded to center left,

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Speaker 4: center right, extreme left, extreme right. But interestingly, their terms,

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Speaker 4: they weren't common in English speaking countries until the early

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Speaker 4: twentieth century, and these are now the terms that we

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Speaker 4: of course describe used to describe sort of opposing ends

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Speaker 4: of the political spectrum, not just where you're sitting. But

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Speaker 4: of course we still sit, don't we on opposite side?

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Speaker 27: So there we go.

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Speaker 4: You can saw that and you hoho gives a file

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Speaker 4: for some point when you potentially need it. That's where

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Speaker 4: the origins of left and right came from in politics.

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Speaker 4: It is a fifteen to seven newstalksib.

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Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates of the Business

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Speaker 1: Hour with my HR, the HR platform for SME Newstalk zib.

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Speaker 4: Hey UK correspondent Devin Gray joins us now.

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Speaker 3: Hikevin Good, Mine brand ethca good to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: I've just been talking about how fascinating elections are around

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Speaker 4: the world at the moment, and the French election in

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Speaker 4: the weekend, but riots of erupted in France. I have

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01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 4: a night following the most Well, this shocking result.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean it was pretty shocking because the far

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Speaker 23: right national Ally Party had done so well in the

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Speaker 23: first round, getting one in three of all the boats

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Speaker 23: that were carved, and has then seemingly become third place

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Speaker 23: in the second round. Why Well, because there was a

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Speaker 23: loose coalition of centrist and left wing parties that basically

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Speaker 23: got together. They don't seem have any other raison vectra

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Speaker 23: other than blocking the national Rally party and succeeded in

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Speaker 23: doing exactly that. So candidates dropped out are from the

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Speaker 23: left and center parties in order just to have one

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Speaker 23: left and center party candidate taking on the National Rally

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Speaker 23: and try and coalesce to gather those supporters around them,

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Speaker 23: and they have succeeded in that, and that led to

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Speaker 23: some pretty violent riots and demonstrations across France last night,

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Speaker 23: with left wing protesters taking to the pavements against the

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Speaker 23: expected right wing game, and then of course violence breaking

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Speaker 23: out again when the results came out. Protester's picture throwing

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Speaker 23: smoke flares into the streets, demonstrators in Paris setting bins

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Speaker 23: on fire and vehicles on fire, and also pictures on

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Speaker 23: social media showing the police rushing in towards the flames

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Speaker 23: with Protesta's throwing projectiles at them and it looks like

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Speaker 23: using tear gas at those demonstrators, And this was after

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Speaker 23: thirty thousand police officers have been on duty during that

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Speaker 23: second runoff vote on Sunday, and that was quite simply

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Speaker 23: because they really did fear some major, major unrest on

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Speaker 23: the streets. The question now for France is what next?

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Speaker 23: Because I haven't got this loose coalition in place, they

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Speaker 23: doesn't have that many policies that they all seem to

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Speaker 23: agree on.

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Speaker 4: How long is it going to take? Vinck?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, I think this could take a month actually to

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Speaker 23: work its way through. And the bizarre thing about this

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Speaker 23: Francesca is that the President Emmanuel Macaran, he came into

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Speaker 23: power trying to effectively get more centrist support in France,

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Speaker 23: to do away with the far left, to do away

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Speaker 23: with the far right, and actually the reverse has happened,

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Speaker 23: because both those areas have gained support in this particular election.

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Speaker 4: The UK's first female Chancellor, Rachel Reeves, has made a

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Speaker 4: promise to kickstart economic growth. She's going to make this

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Speaker 4: a national mission, yes, and.

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Speaker 23: She's probably going to give I would think the most

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01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 23: important speech of her life coming up in the next

1847
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Speaker 23: couple of hours, because she's going to be talking to

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Speaker 23: the businesses and leaders at the Treasury and she's got

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Speaker 23: to obviously have to set out Labor, the new party

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Speaker 23: of government in the UK, Labour's plan for the economy

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Speaker 23: because growth has been sluggish, it's not been good around

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Speaker 23: the world, but it's been really sluggish in the UK,

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01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 23: so how best to get that moving. One of the

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Speaker 23: plans she's going to unveil, we believe, is compulsory house

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Speaker 23: building targets. This has always been a major thorn in

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01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 23: the side of leaders because we need so many houses

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Speaker 23: being built and of course nobody wants them being built

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Speaker 23: near them. Plus the fact we're a small nation in area,

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Speaker 23: very densely populated, and people are very protective of green

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Speaker 23: spaces that are left. So it's going to be interesting

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01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 23: which way she twists and turns to try and get

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Speaker 23: rid of this. But experts are saying this is going

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01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 23: to be no easy target because are going to be

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01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 23: all sorts of objections put in her way, and one

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Speaker 23: can see this going legal as well.

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Speaker 4: Now we're all dealing with the same same issues. Given

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Speaker 4: I see a major UK supermarket chain has script a

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Speaker 4: four day working week after staff complained that the system

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Speaker 4: leaft them feeling exhausted. Yeah.

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Speaker 23: The Labor Party, the new party of government here in

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Speaker 23: the UK, tends to receive much of its backing from

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Speaker 23: the unions, and although Sekre Starmer, the leader, is really

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01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 23: you know, keeping them at arms distance. There are others

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Speaker 23: who are very very keen on seeing more of those

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Speaker 23: union ideas being brought in. Amongst them, Britain's largest union, Unison,

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Speaker 23: wants a four day working week, so it really is

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Speaker 23: pushing this now. It says it's been found to work

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Speaker 23: around the world and therefore we should have it in

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Speaker 23: the UK. But one leading supermarket chain here called Asda,

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01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 23: has been trialing a four day week and looks like

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Speaker 23: it's going to scrap it. Why will across twenty stores.

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Speaker 23: They did a trial where staff worked forty four hours

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01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 23: over four days rather than five, but had got the

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Speaker 23: same pay. But those eleven hour shifts proved physically demanding

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Speaker 23: and left the staff worn out, And they're saying that

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01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:15,760
Speaker 23: they don't want to work the four days, they prefer

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01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:18,520
Speaker 23: to work the five. This, of course, is being highlighted

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01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 23: in the right wing press here as another concern for

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Speaker 23: the incoming labor Party things they might try and do.

1890
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Speaker 23: But yeah, four day weeks being talked about a lot here,

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Speaker 23: but very few big companies have managed to implement it successfully.

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Speaker 4: Oh, thank you so much for the update, Gevin Gray.

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Speaker 4: They're good to talk to you. Ann has become my

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01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 4: new favorite listener. She has said. Hyphranchisca wonderfully explained about

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Speaker 4: you know how we got these left and right terms

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Speaker 4: and politics. Never knew that very mixed criersh of you. Look,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to be honest with you.

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Speaker 8: Nn.

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Speaker 4: I was telling my family about that and I all

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Speaker 4: thought it was dearly boring. So I appreciate that one

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Speaker 4: person has really enjoyed that little bit of information that

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Speaker 4: I've shed with you today. So thank you very much

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Speaker 4: for your text. And it is seven to seven. You're

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Speaker 4: with News Talk THEREB whether.

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Speaker 1: It's macro MicroB or just playing economics, it's all on

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Speaker 1: the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and my HR.

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Speaker 3: The HR platform for sme US talks a B Hey look.

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Speaker 4: Today on the show, we've been talking about the amazing

1909
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Speaker 4: success of Lulu with the tennis. But another New Zealand

1910
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 4: athlete is stepping out this week, also about to play

1911
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Speaker 4: with the big boys, Liam Lawson. So news came out

1912
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Speaker 4: over the weekend that the F one Reserve driver will

1913
01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 4: be driving a Red Bull car for a promotional event

1914
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 4: this week in the UK. Why does this matter? While

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Speaker 4: with Studio Pea's faulting performance for Red Bull, there are

1916
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 4: plenty of rumors swirling about driver seats for twenty twenty five,

1917
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Speaker 4: So Liam Lawson will have two hundred kilometers on the track,

1918
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Speaker 4: the same track that his teammates raced on in the weekend,

1919
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Speaker 4: to show once again why he should be on the

1920
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Speaker 4: F one starting line in twenty twenty five, if not before.

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Speaker 4: So it's a really big week for a lot of

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Speaker 4: Kiwi athletes this week. All right, as what song have

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Speaker 4: you picked for us to go out of?

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Speaker 7: Sorry by Justin Bieber to play us out? Our friend Yes,

1925
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 7: says some good news about this. It turns out you

1926
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Speaker 7: can probably hire Justin Bieber to play a song at

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Speaker 7: your wedding. The reason I'm basing the thing I'm basing

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Speaker 7: this on is there's this bloke, mkesh Ambarney, an Indian businessman.

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Speaker 7: He's the richest guy in Asia, worth one hundred and

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Speaker 7: twenty billion US dollars, and he managed to get Justin

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Speaker 7: to play not not at the wedding, but at like

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Speaker 7: a pre wedding party. Because I guess if you're like

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Speaker 7: a mega billionaire, like you don't just have a wedding,

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Speaker 7: you probably have like a whole week of parties leading

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Speaker 7: up to it, because why not so yeah, so apparently

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Speaker 7: he got just a mieble to play like a private show.

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Speaker 7: It's for the pre wedding party. So it only cost

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Speaker 7: him sixteen million New Zealand dollars. So if you've got

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Speaker 7: a spare I don't know if that's like Justin's going

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Speaker 7: rate or maybe maybe he did like a mates rates thing,

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Speaker 7: so you might need like twenty million. But you know,

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Speaker 7: there you go, there's an option.

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Speaker 4: I thought you were playing this for Darling Tanner.

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Speaker 7: Oh well, she says, She says, it's all made up, right,

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Speaker 7: So don't we going to be hearing He's word from

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Speaker 7: dun Or anytime?

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Speaker 4: So fantastic, thank you, and no, I'll put that. I'll

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Speaker 4: kick that in the back of my mind just in

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Speaker 4: case I need someone to perform at a party for me.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much for joining me today, Heather. We'll

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Speaker 4: be back tomorrow, of course. Jason Pine is up next

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Speaker 4: with Sports Talk. I'll be back on Sunday morning at

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Speaker 4: nine o'clock with the Sunday Session. Take Care.

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