1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: I suppose the ultimate question is what do you want 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: in a leader, or more specifically, the prime minister. Chris 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Hopkins is immersed in this growing mess around social media 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: and an angry ex wife hand on heart before all 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: this happened, hand on heart. If this information hadn't been 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 1: sent to me, I would not have asked, because I 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: genuinely don't care. I still subscribe to the broad idea 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: that personal lives are off limits unless you decide that 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: they are fair game. Now social media has changed all 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: the rules. Of course, did the post of me at 11 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: a pab or a charity run give you clearance control 12 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: through every detail of my life? Does a political figure 13 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: asking for your vote entitle you to know everything about them? 14 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: And if so, where's the line? And the line surely 15 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: is different for each and every one of us. Equally, 16 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: it has a chilling effect for everything that maybe could 17 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: be said about you that isn't true, or is said 18 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: with malice, with a bit of added spice, that isn't 19 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: strictly true, but designed to damage you. It must put 20 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: people off public office, mustn't it there? There but for 21 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: the grace of God? I mean, who needs that grief? 22 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: No one squeaky clean. But if the parliament is supposed 23 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: to be representative, I suppose you could argue Hipkins in 24 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: his ex represent a large slice of the New Zealand countryside. Married, divorced, 25 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: things got messy, that's life experience. You could argue she's toxic. 26 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: You could argue he's a prick. You could argue a 27 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: lot of stuff, which is why it is probably best 28 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: left given that doesn't cross the threshold of requiring the authorities. 29 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: In other words, it's domestic, it's not illegal. It's not 30 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: involving police or authorities or courts or charges or investigations. 31 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: It's she said, he said. I would love to know, 32 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: and AI will tell us this one day, But I 33 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: would love to know. How many have reacted to the 34 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: allegations strongly because they hate Hipkins and they want to 35 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: take him down, versus how many have reacted strongly because 36 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: of the accusations in isolation, versus how many haven't reacted 37 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: at all, Versus how many have reacted against her for 38 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: seeking revenge, Versus how many have gone out of their 39 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: way to track down the comments because they're nosy. What 40 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: a mix say public life, social media, gossip, in nuendo, anger, 41 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: broken hearts, re venge toxicity, and sticky beakery. It would 42 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: be an MP. For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, 43 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: listen live to News Talks at B from six am weekdays, 44 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio