1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:13,427 Speaker 1: from News Talks d B Who on texts. 3 00:00:13,547 --> 00:00:16,667 Speaker 2: Nothing better than a lazy boxing day at the cricket 4 00:00:17,187 --> 00:00:21,107 Speaker 2: with the best packed lunch you'll ever eat, Christmas leftovers, 5 00:00:21,427 --> 00:00:27,027 Speaker 2: ham cake, the works. How good James mcconey on a 6 00:00:27,067 --> 00:00:29,227 Speaker 2: Sunday is always you'd be a fan of a boxing 7 00:00:29,307 --> 00:00:32,987 Speaker 2: day cricket test return, wouldn't you? 8 00:00:33,027 --> 00:00:36,507 Speaker 3: Look, I'm open to anything, Piney really, you know me? 9 00:00:36,707 --> 00:00:38,907 Speaker 3: But maybe what about the would you be happy with 10 00:00:38,947 --> 00:00:41,627 Speaker 3: the twenty seventh? I mean, do we need to compete 11 00:00:41,627 --> 00:00:45,427 Speaker 3: with Australia because I'm just wondering whether if we stagger 12 00:00:45,467 --> 00:00:47,427 Speaker 3: it it might be might work. Well, I mean I'm 13 00:00:47,427 --> 00:00:49,547 Speaker 3: boxing down. I'm just trying to buy a cheap laptop 14 00:00:49,547 --> 00:00:51,627 Speaker 3: from Harvey Norman, you know, like everyone else. 15 00:00:52,027 --> 00:00:56,387 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to return my unwanted Christmas gifts exactly. 16 00:00:57,467 --> 00:00:59,787 Speaker 3: There's a lot of admin on boxing days. 17 00:01:00,227 --> 00:01:02,787 Speaker 2: It's a very good point you make actually, and other 18 00:01:02,827 --> 00:01:04,907 Speaker 2: events too. I think the Elleslie racers are on boxing now, 19 00:01:04,947 --> 00:01:07,227 Speaker 2: aren't there another bit some peace too? So maybe a 20 00:01:07,267 --> 00:01:09,227 Speaker 2: bit of clear air, maybe boxing they can be an 21 00:01:09,227 --> 00:01:12,427 Speaker 2: admin day and then we have the twenty seventh through 22 00:01:12,507 --> 00:01:13,947 Speaker 2: until New Year's Eve instead. 23 00:01:14,747 --> 00:01:17,987 Speaker 3: Yeah, how about that we can do this money twenty seventh, 24 00:01:18,027 --> 00:01:18,707 Speaker 3: make it happen. 25 00:01:19,067 --> 00:01:21,867 Speaker 2: I've written it down, Okay, in PC, I have loved 26 00:01:21,907 --> 00:01:25,867 Speaker 2: the NPC this season and I really enjoyed watching both 27 00:01:25,867 --> 00:01:28,867 Speaker 2: of the quarterfinals yesterday as well as Otago winning on 28 00:01:28,907 --> 00:01:31,467 Speaker 2: Friday night. Have you and you must have enjoyed it 29 00:01:31,507 --> 00:01:33,787 Speaker 2: to I know you love your provincial rugby. 30 00:01:34,707 --> 00:01:36,947 Speaker 3: I really do, and I don't mind Otago winning. I 31 00:01:36,947 --> 00:01:39,427 Speaker 3: think White cuts will getting the benefit of three all 32 00:01:39,467 --> 00:01:41,547 Speaker 3: blacks coming back was a bit of a cheap code 33 00:01:41,547 --> 00:01:44,867 Speaker 3: for them and a great game, but good on Otago. 34 00:01:44,947 --> 00:01:48,747 Speaker 3: I'm glad they went through just for the storyline really, 35 00:01:48,827 --> 00:01:51,867 Speaker 3: because I've got some players who are playing out of 36 00:01:51,907 --> 00:01:55,667 Speaker 3: their skin who may even be bolted in the near future. 37 00:01:55,707 --> 00:01:57,947 Speaker 3: And I'm talking about Dylan Pledger of course, the little 38 00:01:57,947 --> 00:02:03,027 Speaker 3: half back, and Lucas Casey that open so Flanka from 39 00:02:03,067 --> 00:02:07,707 Speaker 3: Kenny Kenny who just keeps on scoring VISal tries and 40 00:02:07,827 --> 00:02:12,147 Speaker 3: has legit wheels. I mean, it's just a matter of time. Really, 41 00:02:12,187 --> 00:02:13,427 Speaker 3: surely you have to. 42 00:02:13,347 --> 00:02:16,227 Speaker 2: Think so, right, And that's what the NPC has always 43 00:02:16,307 --> 00:02:18,707 Speaker 2: done as thrown up guys who most of us had 44 00:02:18,747 --> 00:02:21,147 Speaker 2: never heard of and then they have a terrific season, 45 00:02:21,147 --> 00:02:22,947 Speaker 2: they end up in Super Rugby and then you know 46 00:02:23,107 --> 00:02:25,027 Speaker 2: they then it is up to them, I guess to 47 00:02:25,387 --> 00:02:28,347 Speaker 2: take the next steps. But yeah, I mean part from 48 00:02:28,347 --> 00:02:30,387 Speaker 2: the fact that my Wellington was so terrible this year, 49 00:02:31,587 --> 00:02:35,187 Speaker 2: I have loved it. Canterbury Counties, Counties any chance. This 50 00:02:35,267 --> 00:02:37,107 Speaker 2: afternoon we just had Nick bulling the team on from 51 00:02:37,187 --> 00:02:40,947 Speaker 2: christ Church. They're obviously favors, but Counties have been chupid. 52 00:02:41,027 --> 00:02:42,947 Speaker 2: They've been pretty prolific in the last few weeks. 53 00:02:43,987 --> 00:02:46,907 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're a team with genuine Razzell Poney. I know 54 00:02:46,987 --> 00:02:49,947 Speaker 3: you love Razel and so do I I think that 55 00:02:50,027 --> 00:02:53,587 Speaker 3: there's that there's more to it than that, Like speaking 56 00:02:53,587 --> 00:02:57,067 Speaker 3: of loose forwards, they've really got a great trio with 57 00:02:57,387 --> 00:03:00,427 Speaker 3: Dalton Papola. You just shifting over to the blind side. 58 00:03:00,467 --> 00:03:03,627 Speaker 3: I think at the behest of the all black selectors 59 00:03:03,627 --> 00:03:05,867 Speaker 3: who sort of wanted to see him at number six. 60 00:03:06,427 --> 00:03:09,667 Speaker 3: That's allowed others to flourish in those other two positions, 61 00:03:10,067 --> 00:03:14,187 Speaker 3: and so the four packs going, well, you know, Jimmy Tippo, 62 00:03:14,347 --> 00:03:17,427 Speaker 3: you need that veteran presence, but it's the midfield. I 63 00:03:17,467 --> 00:03:19,947 Speaker 3: just wanted to focus on a little bit Gibson Poppa Lee, 64 00:03:20,507 --> 00:03:24,387 Speaker 3: who I think leads in terms of yards after contact 65 00:03:24,467 --> 00:03:29,787 Speaker 3: or several stats at second five. Just a battleship really 66 00:03:30,387 --> 00:03:33,267 Speaker 3: and he's full steam ahead. And then to be the 67 00:03:33,347 --> 00:03:35,947 Speaker 3: author who people would have seen play from Winer PACIFICA 68 00:03:35,987 --> 00:03:39,347 Speaker 3: or and other other teams. He is a classy center 69 00:03:39,467 --> 00:03:41,867 Speaker 3: and I just think that they sort of just open 70 00:03:41,987 --> 00:03:45,587 Speaker 3: up for the Champagne rugby that we expect from Counties. 71 00:03:45,947 --> 00:03:49,947 Speaker 3: One other player as well, Yowani moor Nanu, the hooker 72 00:03:50,107 --> 00:03:52,667 Speaker 3: we saw play for the Crusaders. I mean he's scored 73 00:03:52,667 --> 00:03:55,107 Speaker 3: a sixty meter chip in chase in the NPC last 74 00:03:55,147 --> 00:03:59,827 Speaker 3: year try that is, and he looks like he's another 75 00:03:59,827 --> 00:04:02,107 Speaker 3: one who could be pushing for all black selection in 76 00:04:02,147 --> 00:04:03,107 Speaker 3: the very near future. 77 00:04:03,507 --> 00:04:05,907 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about all black selection in the very 78 00:04:06,107 --> 00:04:09,907 Speaker 2: very very near future. Tomorrow, in fact, around eleven thirty, 79 00:04:09,947 --> 00:04:13,227 Speaker 2: they're going to unveil the touring squad for the Northern 80 00:04:13,227 --> 00:04:15,387 Speaker 2: Hemisphere Tour, which of course takes in the Test against 81 00:04:15,427 --> 00:04:18,547 Speaker 2: Ireland in Chicago as well. A couple of injuries will 82 00:04:18,547 --> 00:04:21,507 Speaker 2: mean that new faces are introduced. Are we going to 83 00:04:21,547 --> 00:04:25,187 Speaker 2: see any new all blacks guys who haven't been involved before. 84 00:04:26,347 --> 00:04:29,027 Speaker 3: Well, I think Bilimple just seems to me like he's 85 00:04:29,067 --> 00:04:33,867 Speaker 3: probably got the best chance of getting a tour at halfback. 86 00:04:33,947 --> 00:04:37,147 Speaker 3: But then you know, when you think about those other injuries, 87 00:04:37,187 --> 00:04:40,467 Speaker 3: there will be a couple of opportunities. I mean, I 88 00:04:40,587 --> 00:04:43,387 Speaker 3: do like the idea of even I noticed in the 89 00:04:43,427 --> 00:04:46,867 Speaker 3: loose forwards that people making noises about Devin Flanders and 90 00:04:46,947 --> 00:04:51,267 Speaker 3: I like Flanders. You know, Homer Simpson didn't, but I'm 91 00:04:51,307 --> 00:04:53,307 Speaker 3: a big fan of them, and I think that you know, 92 00:04:53,507 --> 00:04:57,587 Speaker 3: there's there's room for a veteran presence in the Lucy's 93 00:04:57,627 --> 00:05:00,667 Speaker 3: someone who is a drafter, So I just sort of 94 00:05:00,707 --> 00:05:02,907 Speaker 3: heard his name popping up any that have popped up 95 00:05:02,907 --> 00:05:04,067 Speaker 3: on your show, Pony. 96 00:05:03,987 --> 00:05:06,347 Speaker 2: Well, I wondered whether Caleb Tunguetowel might be an option 97 00:05:06,547 --> 00:05:08,307 Speaker 2: in the back three. I'm not sure if he's fit again. 98 00:05:08,387 --> 00:05:10,707 Speaker 2: I think he is, but he was the other one 99 00:05:11,107 --> 00:05:15,467 Speaker 2: whose name I heard mentioned. He feels like he's going 100 00:05:15,507 --> 00:05:17,147 Speaker 2: to be an All Black at some stage. Could it 101 00:05:17,187 --> 00:05:17,827 Speaker 2: be tomorrow? 102 00:05:18,547 --> 00:05:20,667 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think Tangy Tail is the one who Raiser 103 00:05:21,067 --> 00:05:23,747 Speaker 3: was very excited by during Super Rugby. Then he got 104 00:05:23,747 --> 00:05:27,907 Speaker 3: injured and even though I think Raiser himself proclaimed that 105 00:05:27,987 --> 00:05:31,147 Speaker 3: Lero Ocado was the fastest man in New Zealand rugby. 106 00:05:31,227 --> 00:05:34,227 Speaker 3: I spoke to Leroy himself and he did confirm that 107 00:05:34,267 --> 00:05:39,067 Speaker 3: Tangy Taw was quicker than him and was indeed there 108 00:05:39,067 --> 00:05:42,147 Speaker 3: in the sevens. Again, so they know. And I think 109 00:05:42,187 --> 00:05:45,427 Speaker 3: having that elite pace makes a really big difference. And 110 00:05:45,467 --> 00:05:48,867 Speaker 3: so it's probably a good segue, actually elite pace, Pony, 111 00:05:48,907 --> 00:05:52,787 Speaker 3: because we could move on to the Warrior his new signing, 112 00:05:52,827 --> 00:05:55,347 Speaker 3: Paeda from the Titans. 113 00:05:55,667 --> 00:05:57,627 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's a great segue. So why don't you 114 00:05:57,667 --> 00:05:59,787 Speaker 2: pick up that seguey and run with it as fast 115 00:05:59,827 --> 00:06:00,347 Speaker 2: as he might. 116 00:06:01,987 --> 00:06:04,187 Speaker 3: This is the one thing that we have been missing 117 00:06:04,187 --> 00:06:06,267 Speaker 3: for the wise. Let's be honest, we just don't have 118 00:06:06,947 --> 00:06:12,067 Speaker 3: elite gas. I mean, yeah, Roger is still a supreme athlete, 119 00:06:12,107 --> 00:06:15,187 Speaker 3: but in terms of out and outpaced, Potata has scored 120 00:06:15,307 --> 00:06:19,747 Speaker 3: so many try fastest to fifty tries in the NRL. 121 00:06:20,187 --> 00:06:24,107 Speaker 3: That's a record. So we've got someone who's an absolute flyer. 122 00:06:24,227 --> 00:06:26,267 Speaker 3: I think it makes a really big difference. You look 123 00:06:26,307 --> 00:06:29,707 Speaker 3: at that NRL Grand Final, what stood out for you? 124 00:06:29,907 --> 00:06:33,547 Speaker 3: I mean, Reese Walsh, just that elite pace makes all 125 00:06:33,627 --> 00:06:36,827 Speaker 3: the difference, doesn't it. So at the moment, I'd say 126 00:06:36,827 --> 00:06:40,107 Speaker 3: our fastest player might be Leka Halathima, certainly over twenty meters. 127 00:06:40,387 --> 00:06:43,307 Speaker 3: But this is big and probably a bit of a 128 00:06:43,307 --> 00:06:46,627 Speaker 3: bummer for Dallan Yteni's a lesniak because I guess that's 129 00:06:46,667 --> 00:06:48,027 Speaker 3: where he might slode in on the wing. 130 00:06:48,547 --> 00:06:50,627 Speaker 2: Now, the other person I've seen linked with a move 131 00:06:50,667 --> 00:06:53,187 Speaker 2: to the Warriors is and this isn't on your list, 132 00:06:53,187 --> 00:06:55,187 Speaker 2: so my apologies for dropping this on you. As one 133 00:06:55,187 --> 00:06:58,987 Speaker 2: of New Zealand's brightest and most recognizable young talents, and 134 00:06:58,987 --> 00:07:02,467 Speaker 2: that's Harry Inch out of Tasman. He's long been regarded 135 00:07:02,507 --> 00:07:04,747 Speaker 2: as a guy from his time at Nelson College who 136 00:07:04,747 --> 00:07:07,187 Speaker 2: could go a long way in the thing fifteen man game. 137 00:07:07,227 --> 00:07:10,667 Speaker 2: But apparently he signed or has certainly expressed interest in 138 00:07:10,747 --> 00:07:11,587 Speaker 2: going to Rugby League. 139 00:07:11,627 --> 00:07:14,507 Speaker 3: Have you heard these stories, Yeah, I heard that quite 140 00:07:14,547 --> 00:07:17,627 Speaker 3: a while ago. Actually, Harry Inch, Yeah, out of Nelson College. 141 00:07:17,667 --> 00:07:19,787 Speaker 3: He was you know that he's a really good show 142 00:07:19,827 --> 00:07:23,747 Speaker 3: and go first five, loves to run, take on the line. 143 00:07:23,347 --> 00:07:27,387 Speaker 3: I think that the Warriors courted him, you know, kind 144 00:07:27,427 --> 00:07:30,147 Speaker 3: of like they went all out. I mean they helicopped 145 00:07:30,187 --> 00:07:34,187 Speaker 3: him up from Nelson to to Anie Hunger. They I 146 00:07:34,227 --> 00:07:37,467 Speaker 3: think Monty Betha met him at the Halliport. They showed 147 00:07:37,507 --> 00:07:40,827 Speaker 3: him around the Warriors and you know, pretty much wind 148 00:07:40,907 --> 00:07:43,427 Speaker 3: him and dined him and then send him down to 149 00:07:43,827 --> 00:07:46,987 Speaker 3: back down to Nelson. But he always had aspirations of 150 00:07:47,107 --> 00:07:50,107 Speaker 3: playing for the All Blacks, so I thought that might 151 00:07:50,147 --> 00:07:53,227 Speaker 3: have been off the table. But maybe it's back on. 152 00:07:53,467 --> 00:07:56,307 Speaker 3: Maybe he's just sort of reading the tea leaves and things. 153 00:07:56,347 --> 00:07:58,947 Speaker 3: It's worth a nudge because I mean, why not. I 154 00:07:58,987 --> 00:08:02,667 Speaker 3: think the Warriors really want him and he could probably 155 00:08:02,667 --> 00:08:05,387 Speaker 3: see himself playing first grade sooner than later. 156 00:08:06,547 --> 00:08:09,067 Speaker 2: To finish today, when I ask about the New York Giants, 157 00:08:09,347 --> 00:08:12,067 Speaker 2: who've been terrible for a wee while, but they have 158 00:08:12,147 --> 00:08:14,187 Speaker 2: found some new hope. 159 00:08:14,867 --> 00:08:17,707 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is for fans of teams they who are 160 00:08:17,947 --> 00:08:21,027 Speaker 3: kind of in the doll drums. Really, I'm talking about 161 00:08:21,067 --> 00:08:24,547 Speaker 3: West Tiger's fan in the NRL. Maybe there's an Everton 162 00:08:24,667 --> 00:08:28,267 Speaker 3: fan out there from English football, you know those they 163 00:08:28,307 --> 00:08:30,147 Speaker 3: just can't see any hope. But this is a team 164 00:08:30,187 --> 00:08:33,907 Speaker 3: that was similarly struggling, got rid of their best player, 165 00:08:33,987 --> 00:08:38,907 Speaker 3: Sae Kwon Barclay, a running back, but instead now they've drafted, well, 166 00:08:39,067 --> 00:08:42,467 Speaker 3: got a quarterback called Jackson Dart great name for a quarterback, 167 00:08:42,467 --> 00:08:46,467 Speaker 3: wouldn't you agree? I do Dart yes. And then Cam 168 00:08:46,587 --> 00:08:50,107 Speaker 3: Scatterboo even better name for the running back who sends 169 00:08:50,107 --> 00:08:54,787 Speaker 3: people scattering. And he scored three touchdowns I think in 170 00:08:54,827 --> 00:08:58,107 Speaker 3: their last game and might have been Forore I was three, 171 00:08:58,347 --> 00:09:00,987 Speaker 3: I believe. But anyway, these guys have come together the 172 00:09:01,147 --> 00:09:04,387 Speaker 3: great mates are very gen z that kind of like 173 00:09:04,467 --> 00:09:09,187 Speaker 3: this new generation coming through and just have transformed that team. 174 00:09:09,467 --> 00:09:11,507 Speaker 3: I know it's only one when, but it was against 175 00:09:11,507 --> 00:09:14,627 Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Eagles who won the Super Bowls. So watch 176 00:09:14,667 --> 00:09:16,987 Speaker 3: this space. I mean, that's the thing. If you've got 177 00:09:16,987 --> 00:09:20,027 Speaker 3: a team that kind of sucks, two players can make 178 00:09:20,067 --> 00:09:20,747 Speaker 3: all the difference. 179 00:09:22,507 --> 00:09:24,707 Speaker 2: It's always great chatting to you, James. Thanks for joining 180 00:09:24,787 --> 00:09:26,867 Speaker 2: us this afternoon, mate, enjoy the rest of your weekend 181 00:09:26,907 --> 00:09:28,827 Speaker 2: and we will catch up again next Sunday if that 182 00:09:28,867 --> 00:09:29,307 Speaker 2: fits with. 183 00:09:29,307 --> 00:09:33,627 Speaker 3: You, mate, anytime we'll talk Rugby three sixty. I'm keen 184 00:09:33,707 --> 00:09:35,867 Speaker 3: to represent them and I think they're going to save 185 00:09:35,947 --> 00:09:38,427 Speaker 3: on sand as well from the fields. That's work. 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