WEBVTT - Leighton Smith Podcast #281 - April 23rd 2025 - Kurt Schlichter 0:00:09.093 --> 0:00:11.973 You're listening to a podcast from news talks it B. 0:00:12.373 --> 0:00:16.173 Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 0:00:16.693 --> 0:00:19.733 It's time for all the attitude, all the opinion, all 0:00:19.773 --> 0:00:24.813 the information, all the debates of this now the Leighton 0:00:24.933 --> 0:00:27.653 Smith Podcast powered by news talks it B. 0:00:28.133 --> 0:00:30.973 Welcome to Podcasts two hundred and eighty one for April 0:00:31.013 --> 0:00:35.253 twenty third, twenty twenty five. This podcast is into its 0:00:35.253 --> 0:00:39.173 seventh year, which I struggle to comprehend for a variety 0:00:39.213 --> 0:00:42.013 of reasons, but one of the rewards. One of the 0:00:42.053 --> 0:00:46.573 highlights of doing it is discovering individuals who are unknown, 0:00:46.813 --> 0:00:50.373 in introducing them to you and in many cases to myself, 0:00:50.573 --> 0:00:54.613 and in other cases they are unfamiliar with us sort of. 0:00:55.213 --> 0:00:57.773 There are two forms of media that are booming at 0:00:57.773 --> 0:01:01.693 the moment, columnists and podcasts. Columists have been at it 0:01:01.973 --> 0:01:06.813 for hundreds of years, podcasts not so much. But there's 0:01:06.853 --> 0:01:11.253 one essential aspect that is applicable to both that render 0:01:11.293 --> 0:01:17.333 them valuable. Independence. Independence as in unencumbered by overlords, independence 0:01:17.373 --> 0:01:21.453 as in expressing what you think, not fitting into a 0:01:21.533 --> 0:01:27.093 mainstream keral. Kurt Schlichter is an interesting man, as we'll 0:01:27.093 --> 0:01:31.453 discover shortly and I have read his columns on and 0:01:31.493 --> 0:01:34.453 off for a period of time, but it occurred to 0:01:34.533 --> 0:01:38.173 me more recently that we needed somebody of his ilk 0:01:38.493 --> 0:01:42.333 in this country who could write about local things in 0:01:42.773 --> 0:01:45.813 somewhat the same manner, and adorned on me that that 0:01:46.053 --> 0:01:50.333 individual probably exists. And I want to give you an example. 0:01:50.933 --> 0:01:55.013 Readers of this blog have long known about our frustration 0:01:55.133 --> 0:01:59.613 with Wellington's lack of action by career bureaucrats over practically 0:02:00.053 --> 0:02:04.773 every important issue facing New Zealand. The pointless Party has 0:02:04.973 --> 0:02:09.093 continued under national Take the latest Treasury report, for example, 0:02:09.453 --> 0:02:14.173 it's called Teyara Makapuna twenty twenty five Consultation on the 0:02:14.253 --> 0:02:18.773 Draft Content of the Treasury's Long Term Insights Briefing Sustainable 0:02:18.813 --> 0:02:25.413 and Resilient Physical Policy through Economic Shocks and Cycles. With 0:02:25.533 --> 0:02:29.093 a long winded title like that, the report is bound 0:02:29.253 --> 0:02:32.413 to be nonsense, and so it is. What's the point 0:02:32.453 --> 0:02:35.973 of this one hundred and eleven page exercise in stupidity? 0:02:36.093 --> 0:02:39.293 The new Secretary Treasury sums it up when he says, 0:02:40.333 --> 0:02:43.773 we hope this briefing will encourage New Zealanders to talk 0:02:43.813 --> 0:02:46.493 about whether we are leaving enough in the public purse 0:02:46.853 --> 0:02:51.773 for future New Zealanders. How exciting is that all talk, 0:02:51.933 --> 0:02:55.093 no action. The nation is fed upwards talking and debating. 0:02:55.333 --> 0:02:57.853 It's fed up with Finance Minister Willis saying that she 0:02:58.053 --> 0:03:01.853 is taking advice on every single issue because she has 0:03:01.893 --> 0:03:05.253 no plan and no clue about economics and finance. Why 0:03:05.333 --> 0:03:08.973 is the Treasury Secretary being paid to talk all day? 0:03:09.413 --> 0:03:12.453 Why was he even hired? Now this is from Robert 0:03:12.533 --> 0:03:18.213 McCulloch from Auckland University and he's been writing columns now 0:03:18.533 --> 0:03:21.893 under the title or under the address of down to 0:03:21.973 --> 0:03:27.453 Worth Kiwi or down to Worth dot Kiwi. Anyway he 0:03:27.493 --> 0:03:31.333 goes on, I recommend finding this yet another rubbish Treasury 0:03:31.413 --> 0:03:35.013 report in your bim. It's a waste of one million 0:03:35.053 --> 0:03:37.813 dollars of taxpayer money. It reads like a first year 0:03:37.893 --> 0:03:43.053 macroeconomics textbook. Why didn't Finance Minister Willis by Principles of 0:03:43.093 --> 0:03:46.693 Economics by Greg Mann? I can't pronounce this guy's lam. 0:03:46.733 --> 0:03:49.533 I don't know m A n kiw manky mank you 0:03:50.773 --> 0:03:54.373 for ninety dollars rather than ask Treasury to write an 0:03:54.733 --> 0:03:59.013 imbasilically patronizing version of it. It provides not one solution 0:03:59.133 --> 0:04:02.373 to the primary underlying question posed by the report, namely 0:04:02.453 --> 0:04:06.493 how to avoid New Zealand's long term physical challenges stemming 0:04:06.533 --> 0:04:12.973 from population A. He concludes this particular commentary, I remember 0:04:13.053 --> 0:04:15.693 visiting the Treasury to present the plan together with Sir 0:04:15.773 --> 0:04:19.453 Roger Douglas. We were scheduled to meet the then Treasury 0:04:19.493 --> 0:04:23.133 Secretary at around nine am, and our earlier one of 0:04:23.133 --> 0:04:26.933 his minions called and said the big boss Man couldn't 0:04:27.013 --> 0:04:30.133 make the meeting. So I said we couldn't make it either. 0:04:30.813 --> 0:04:33.213 Then they called back and said he could make the meeting. 0:04:33.533 --> 0:04:36.573 The Treasury never cited our article and never gave a 0:04:36.693 --> 0:04:39.373 damn about coming up with a concrete plan to solve 0:04:39.413 --> 0:04:43.973 New Zealand's rising death and deficits. All it does is talk. 0:04:44.493 --> 0:04:47.173 All it wants us to do is talk. All the 0:04:47.213 --> 0:04:50.613 new Secretary wants to do is talk. All Willis wants 0:04:50.653 --> 0:04:55.613 to do is talk and seek advice. I think I 0:04:55.693 --> 0:04:59.373 thought him pretty much on a par with today's guest. 0:05:00.053 --> 0:05:03.533 Close anyway, Now, at the back end of this podcast, 0:05:03.613 --> 0:05:07.293 after the mail Room with Missus producer, I've included a 0:05:07.373 --> 0:05:12.773 message that Pope Francis said to his bishops in America 0:05:13.653 --> 0:05:16.573 only a couple of weeks few days before he died 0:05:17.933 --> 0:05:21.493 and it is a it's a targeted message and it 0:05:21.573 --> 0:05:25.133 has to do with migration, and I think you'll find 0:05:25.133 --> 0:05:28.693 its comments rather interesting. Whether you agree or not is 0:05:28.813 --> 0:05:33.333 up to you. I would like to discuss it with 0:05:33.453 --> 0:05:37.493 the departed Pope, but that's not possible now in a moment. Kerch, 0:05:37.493 --> 0:05:42.693 schlicktter Lat and Smith. Buckerlan is a natural oral vaccine 0:05:42.773 --> 0:05:46.173 in a tablet form called bacterial l sate. 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He served in the military, retiring in twenty fifteen. 0:07:14.853 --> 0:07:18.613 He retired as a full fully fledged colonel with a 0:07:18.653 --> 0:07:23.333 degree from the Army War College. He is an author 0:07:23.373 --> 0:07:26.933 of novels. He's an opinion writer, writing three columns a 0:07:26.933 --> 0:07:30.253 week for the town Hall dot com in two thousand 0:07:30.253 --> 0:07:32.213 and nine, and this seems to be a major claim 0:07:32.293 --> 0:07:35.373 to fame, because anywhere you read about Kurch Slickter they 0:07:35.613 --> 0:07:39.573 pretty much quote this. In two thousand and nine, Andrew 0:07:39.653 --> 0:07:45.573 Breitbart recruited him personally to write I believe on Hollywood, 0:07:46.533 --> 0:07:51.253 Big big Hollywood. How did he approach you? By the way, 0:07:51.293 --> 0:07:52.893 Welcome to New Zealand. I know this is the first 0:07:52.893 --> 0:07:53.653 time you've been here. 0:07:54.173 --> 0:07:54.693 Well, thank you. 0:07:54.733 --> 0:07:59.053 I've inn all over the world. New Zealand's on my list. 0:08:00.533 --> 0:08:00.893 Of course. 0:08:00.893 --> 0:08:03.013 I know. All I know about New Zealand is you 0:08:03.093 --> 0:08:06.773 had magnificent fighting forces and the Lord of the Rings 0:08:07.213 --> 0:08:09.013 and animals. 0:08:09.013 --> 0:08:11.453 But I'm eager to come there someday if I'm allowed 0:08:11.453 --> 0:08:11.973 in the country. 0:08:11.973 --> 0:08:14.493 Well, we know how to sink ships too, especially our own, 0:08:15.413 --> 0:08:17.453 well as such as I presume tonight. 0:08:17.533 --> 0:08:20.933 The story, I do know the story, and it's a 0:08:21.013 --> 0:08:23.453 story in all the Western militaries. I'm sure we'll touch 0:08:23.493 --> 0:08:25.573 on that at some point, but let me let me 0:08:25.613 --> 0:08:26.333 get to Andrew. 0:08:27.493 --> 0:08:29.933 I was a full time. 0:08:29.813 --> 0:08:32.733 Lawyer at the time, a litigator, but I had I 0:08:32.773 --> 0:08:35.533 had finished my stand up comedy career, which went on 0:08:35.573 --> 0:08:38.453 for a few years, and I deployed with the army 0:08:38.573 --> 0:08:41.453 overseas d Kosovo. I came back and I was doing 0:08:41.533 --> 0:08:45.133 still doing a little freelance writing. I had written, you know, 0:08:45.893 --> 0:08:50.493 opinion pieces. I had written jokes by a BMW, writing 0:08:50.613 --> 0:08:53.853 jokes living in Los Angeles. 0:08:53.373 --> 0:08:54.253 That's the kind of thing you do. 0:08:54.453 --> 0:08:57.733 And one day somebody from law school said, you've got 0:08:57.733 --> 0:08:59.813 to meet this friend of mine, Andrew Breitbart. And I 0:08:59.813 --> 0:09:01.613 had heard of him. I knew he was out there. 0:09:01.653 --> 0:09:04.493 I knew he was starting these websites and we met 0:09:04.533 --> 0:09:08.253 and we bonded over Mexican food and alternative music. We're 0:09:08.413 --> 0:09:11.453 big fans of books, and I got to know him 0:09:11.573 --> 0:09:14.973 and one day he's doing Big Hollywood, which was a 0:09:15.133 --> 0:09:16.653 kind of a conservative. 0:09:16.053 --> 0:09:18.933 Take on Hollywood. It was the first of his Breitbart stuff. 0:09:19.693 --> 0:09:22.693 And I saw this story in the newspaper about the 0:09:22.733 --> 0:09:24.653 new Star Trek movie and they were going to open 0:09:24.693 --> 0:09:26.573 it and wait for the American troops. 0:09:26.613 --> 0:09:28.293 That was that was gonna be the premiere. 0:09:28.333 --> 0:09:30.573 And I'm a big believer that you know from being 0:09:30.613 --> 0:09:32.973 in the military that when your guys do something positive, 0:09:33.013 --> 0:09:35.733 you reinforce it. Because if you were enforced positive, you're 0:09:35.733 --> 0:09:39.893 gonna get more positive. So I sent Andrew an email saying, Hey, 0:09:39.893 --> 0:09:41.653 you got to get somebody to write a story about this. 0:09:41.773 --> 0:09:44.693 If they're doing good things to Yatta, say that, and 0:09:44.733 --> 0:09:49.733 he said, why don't you write it? And I wrote 0:09:49.773 --> 0:09:53.493 it and I immediately got a writer's packet, So. 0:09:53.493 --> 0:09:55.493 I was one of the first big Hollywood writers. I'm 0:09:55.493 --> 0:09:56.093 so early. 0:09:56.253 --> 0:10:00.773 I also had no non disclosure agreement, which came later 0:10:01.493 --> 0:10:06.133 and when Breitbart kind of after Andrew's unfortunate death, Andrew 0:10:06.213 --> 0:10:06.933 became a friend. 0:10:07.413 --> 0:10:09.133 But after his n passing. 0:10:09.173 --> 0:10:11.973 Breitbart kind of went through some troubles, and I kept 0:10:11.973 --> 0:10:14.933 getting calls from the media because I became known as 0:10:14.973 --> 0:10:17.453 the one guy who could talk about Breitbart because I 0:10:17.453 --> 0:10:20.173 didn't have a non disclosure. But I wouldn't because I 0:10:20.213 --> 0:10:22.733 hate the meeting. So but Andrew was a great guy, 0:10:23.093 --> 0:10:27.573 a true visionary. He is somebody who saw things in 0:10:27.613 --> 0:10:30.693 a way no one else did. I've never met anyone 0:10:30.813 --> 0:10:34.293 like him. His death was a terrible surprise. Well it 0:10:34.373 --> 0:10:36.293 shouldn't have been. I had lunch with him two weeks 0:10:36.333 --> 0:10:40.813 before him and a conservative movie star in Los Angeles, 0:10:40.853 --> 0:10:43.213 and you know, he had a couple of lunch fears. 0:10:43.253 --> 0:10:46.253 He looked terrible, and I said, Andrew, you gotta take 0:10:46.253 --> 0:10:47.973 care of himself. No, no, no, I got too much work 0:10:47.973 --> 0:10:50.133 to do. I got more to do. And he literally 0:10:50.213 --> 0:10:51.253 worked himself to death. 0:10:52.653 --> 0:10:55.693 He is what was it that actually? What was it 0:10:55.733 --> 0:10:57.693 that actually killed him? Did they have a find out 0:10:57.773 --> 0:10:58.093 he had. 0:10:58.613 --> 0:11:02.653 He had a congenital heart condition and it was complicated 0:11:02.733 --> 0:11:10.173 by lack of exercise and stress, and he basically basically 0:11:10.173 --> 0:11:12.613 had our art attack. For lack of better people said, 0:11:12.613 --> 0:11:16.053 well he was poison and everything. Come on, I saw Andrew, 0:11:18.053 --> 0:11:21.093 he was not put He worked himself to death. He 0:11:21.253 --> 0:11:26.653 was a patriot. He put saving his country and his 0:11:26.773 --> 0:11:29.293 people over his own health. 0:11:29.453 --> 0:11:32.293 Who would you who would you say? Who would you 0:11:32.333 --> 0:11:36.493 say would come closest to him today? 0:11:36.533 --> 0:11:38.653 Today? 0:11:38.933 --> 0:11:43.933 Oh wow, it's funny because there are hundreds of us 0:11:44.013 --> 0:11:48.693 who came from Andrew, Brian, Ben Shapiro, Larry. 0:11:48.413 --> 0:11:50.173 O'Connor, My gosh. In two thousand and nine, the. 0:11:50.093 --> 0:11:52.813 Three of us were doing an hour long radio internet 0:11:52.933 --> 0:11:56.773 radio show every Thursday night, Larry Show. 0:11:57.093 --> 0:11:57.333 You know. 0:11:57.413 --> 0:12:00.173 And now Ben Shapiro is basically a corporation and himself 0:12:00.253 --> 0:12:01.933 Dana lash just. 0:12:02.093 --> 0:12:04.653 He inspired so many people, but no one's like him. 0:12:04.973 --> 0:12:09.413 There's not one guy who's adding out a vision. 0:12:10.293 --> 0:12:14.533 We're all running along in our various ways fulfilling his vision. 0:12:15.133 --> 0:12:16.373 So it's it's very hard. 0:12:16.493 --> 0:12:17.973 I mean, there are there are a lot of great 0:12:17.973 --> 0:12:21.293 guys out there doing innovative things, but there there's there's 0:12:21.333 --> 0:12:22.293 no new Andrew. 0:12:22.893 --> 0:12:23.213 Uh. 0:12:23.253 --> 0:12:28.293 He was the equivalent of the the internet, equivalent of 0:12:28.413 --> 0:12:32.253 Rush Limbaugh to the radio, which is the He was 0:12:32.293 --> 0:12:33.973 the beginning and the end of the story. 0:12:34.533 --> 0:12:38.973 I read. I read an opinion piece earlier today. It 0:12:39.013 --> 0:12:41.533 was written by somebody who I didn't used to like, 0:12:42.213 --> 0:12:47.573 but more recently have have come to well, feel more 0:12:47.613 --> 0:12:52.293 friendly toward basically because I think this particular person has 0:12:52.533 --> 0:12:57.653 has changed attitude to some degree. But he hated Andrew. 0:12:58.413 --> 0:13:02.213 His name's Matt, Matt Tybee really, and you know Matt. 0:13:03.213 --> 0:13:07.013 I I don't know him personally. I think he is. 0:13:08.173 --> 0:13:10.653 He's one of the people who found the ground shifting 0:13:10.813 --> 0:13:13.733 underneath him. I don't know how much he's changed, but 0:13:13.973 --> 0:13:15.973 I know that the people who used to be his 0:13:16.053 --> 0:13:17.133 allies have changed. 0:13:17.933 --> 0:13:20.093 He didn't like Andrew is stunning Andrew. 0:13:20.613 --> 0:13:23.453 A lot of leftists personally liked Andrew. 0:13:23.573 --> 0:13:27.453 He was just a great god. As a person. 0:13:27.493 --> 0:13:31.093 He wasn't uh, you know, he was a tough fighter, 0:13:31.533 --> 0:13:34.453 but he wasn't cruel or petty. Uh. 0:13:35.213 --> 0:13:38.053 He was just you know, and and he you know. 0:13:38.373 --> 0:13:40.933 I'm surprised that he actively hated him. 0:13:40.773 --> 0:13:41.813 On a personal level. 0:13:41.813 --> 0:13:45.213 I could see them hating him for his politics because 0:13:45.253 --> 0:13:48.093 some you know, lunatics think they should invest that kind 0:13:48.133 --> 0:13:49.093 of hatred. 0:13:49.173 --> 0:13:52.653 In their political stuff. But that that sucks me. 0:13:53.533 --> 0:13:57.133 Well, it was it was out of Rolling Stone, and 0:13:57.373 --> 0:14:00.773 I went looking for something and came across this. So 0:14:00.893 --> 0:14:03.413 let me just quote you briefly a little of it. 0:14:03.853 --> 0:14:06.613 There's some couple of pages, but just a bit. Give 0:14:06.693 --> 0:14:11.013 him this the right way provocateur had his moments. So 0:14:11.093 --> 0:14:14.293 Andrew Breitbart is dead. Here's what I have to say 0:14:14.293 --> 0:14:17.133 to that. And I'm sure Breitbart himself would have respected 0:14:17.133 --> 0:14:21.533 this reaction. Good fim, there's words in here I can't say. 0:14:22.253 --> 0:14:24.973 I couldn't be happier he's dead. I say this in 0:14:25.013 --> 0:14:27.893 the nicest possible way. I actually kind of liked Andrew Breitbart, 0:14:28.253 --> 0:14:30.973 but not in the sense that I would ever have 0:14:31.013 --> 0:14:32.813 wanted to hang out with him or even be caught 0:14:32.853 --> 0:14:36.053 within one hundred yards of him without a hazmat suit on, 0:14:36.933 --> 0:14:41.413 but respected the shamelessness. Breitbart didn't do anything by halves, 0:14:41.453 --> 0:14:44.013 and even his most ardent detractors had to admit that 0:14:44.053 --> 0:14:46.653 he had a highly developed, if not always funny, sense 0:14:46.693 --> 0:14:49.373 of humor. But he went on and finished up in 0:14:49.493 --> 0:14:51.853 much the same way. He was generous, and then he 0:14:51.933 --> 0:14:58.093 came back and put the boot in again. I was shocked. 0:14:58.173 --> 0:15:00.333 I was shocked also, but then I realized that in 0:15:00.373 --> 0:15:02.533 those days it was a long time ago. Now he 0:15:02.613 --> 0:15:05.293 was writing for Rolling Stone, and rolling Stone as a 0:15:05.613 --> 0:15:07.173 well something on its own. 0:15:08.373 --> 0:15:12.533 Well, I simply hope that. I'm sure all of us 0:15:12.533 --> 0:15:15.773 have embarrassing things that we're ashamed of that we've written 0:15:15.773 --> 0:15:19.053 in the past, and I hope nobody digs up something 0:15:19.133 --> 0:15:23.333 that reflects of mine, that reflects so poorly on my character. 0:15:23.693 --> 0:15:27.933 And I hope Matt Tayebe has thought about that over 0:15:27.973 --> 0:15:29.773 the years and come to a different conclusion. 0:15:30.573 --> 0:15:31.093 I want to. 0:15:31.773 --> 0:15:37.053 That's just it's mortifying in the sense that I'm not offended. 0:15:37.413 --> 0:15:38.773 I just think less of him. 0:15:38.933 --> 0:15:40.773 Maybe you should read the whole thing, just to put 0:15:40.773 --> 0:15:44.133 it more in perspective, but it's entitled the death of 0:15:44.173 --> 0:15:47.813 a douche. Having washed our hands of that, let me 0:15:47.853 --> 0:15:52.173 continue in somewhat the same vein what I'm quoting you 0:15:52.453 --> 0:15:57.413 is a piece written by a university professor in Auckland 0:15:58.653 --> 0:16:03.013 on his blog. Yesterday, the US President lambast at Harvard 0:16:03.133 --> 0:16:07.173 University he ordered its federal funding to be cut for 0:16:07.253 --> 0:16:11.093 those curious about the inner organizational workings of such places. 0:16:11.453 --> 0:16:15.013 The comments the president made as a social media post 0:16:15.613 --> 0:16:19.253 were not directed at the university as a whole. When 0:16:19.293 --> 0:16:23.773 one reads closely. He's particularly upset about former Democratic Party 0:16:24.173 --> 0:16:28.333 New York mayor Bill de Blasio being appointed to a 0:16:28.453 --> 0:16:32.533 visiting fellowship at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government. Other appointments 0:16:32.533 --> 0:16:35.893 at the Kennedy School also are also driving the president crazy. 0:16:36.453 --> 0:16:39.293 So who else is sitting in those ivory towers alongside 0:16:39.333 --> 0:16:43.453 the likes of de Blasio. New Zealand's former Prime Minister 0:16:43.533 --> 0:16:48.733 Jacinda Adern. Of course, she is also a fellow at 0:16:48.733 --> 0:16:51.653 that school, appointed from twenty four to twenty five. Her 0:16:51.693 --> 0:16:59.093 title is Angelopolis Global Public Leader's Fellow. What did the 0:16:59.133 --> 0:17:02.453 President say about the Kennedy School hiring the likes of Adern? 0:17:03.053 --> 0:17:07.813 Harvard has been hiring almost all woke, radical left idiots 0:17:07.853 --> 0:17:11.533 and bird brains who are only capable of teaching failure 0:17:11.693 --> 0:17:15.333 to students and so called future leaders. These leftist dopes 0:17:15.453 --> 0:17:18.733 are teaching at Harvard, and because of that, Harvard should 0:17:18.773 --> 0:17:20.853 not be considered on any list of the world's greatest 0:17:20.933 --> 0:17:25.853 universities or colleges. How should offended New Zealanders feel about that? 0:17:27.333 --> 0:17:30.573 Well, look, Donald Trump is a different kind of American president. 0:17:31.613 --> 0:17:33.493 He is much. 0:17:34.693 --> 0:17:38.813 More akin to the kind of guys to put up 0:17:39.013 --> 0:17:43.813 tall buildings and work on steel and sheet rock and 0:17:43.933 --> 0:17:46.813 cement than he is the kind of people who teach 0:17:46.853 --> 0:17:50.933 at Harvard. One of the problems that we faced in 0:17:50.933 --> 0:17:52.973 the United States and throughout the Western world is the 0:17:53.053 --> 0:17:55.773 leftists have taken control of our institutions. 0:17:56.093 --> 0:17:56.853 They have changed. 0:17:57.133 --> 0:18:01.173 Much like a virus takes control of a cell to 0:18:01.293 --> 0:18:04.173 turn it to its own purposes, which is usually creating 0:18:04.213 --> 0:18:08.573 more viruses. These leftists have taken the institutions and turn 0:18:08.653 --> 0:18:15.333 them into essentially leftist conformity factories and taking them off 0:18:15.453 --> 0:18:17.053 task from. 0:18:16.893 --> 0:18:18.573 Their institutional goals. 0:18:18.653 --> 0:18:20.653 You know, back back in the old days, Harvard was 0:18:20.653 --> 0:18:24.813 supposed to uh, uh, you know, train preachers. Then it 0:18:24.853 --> 0:18:27.653 was supposed to train you know, leaders for the government, 0:18:28.213 --> 0:18:31.973 uh and uh business and society. And now it changed. 0:18:32.413 --> 0:18:37.853 It trains a bunch of amas loving half wits. The 0:18:38.093 --> 0:18:40.093 the fight in the United States is over what to 0:18:40.133 --> 0:18:45.373 do with these institutions. Do we attempt to retake them 0:18:46.053 --> 0:18:48.653 or do we destroy them and build something else. 0:18:49.853 --> 0:18:51.853 I remember Maggie Thatcher. 0:18:52.773 --> 0:18:55.933 One of the brilliant things she said for her time 0:18:56.813 --> 0:18:59.413 was first you win the argument, that you win the election. 0:19:01.053 --> 0:19:04.373 That's changed now as and I thought that I wish 0:19:04.413 --> 0:19:06.453 I could take credit for it. I saw somebody else 0:19:06.493 --> 0:19:09.493 say it. Now We're not interested in winning the argument, 0:19:09.533 --> 0:19:14.093 We're interested in winning the fight. And Harvard is not 0:19:14.173 --> 0:19:19.333 losing its money because it has leftist teaching. Harvard is 0:19:20.413 --> 0:19:25.853 losing its money specifically because it's not complying with the 0:19:25.893 --> 0:19:30.773 civil rights laws that the money that the federal government 0:19:30.893 --> 0:19:34.853 gives it come attaxed with. They always come with strings. 0:19:35.693 --> 0:19:39.173 And in fact, this has been law for forty years. 0:19:39.413 --> 0:19:41.853 If you are a university that is not abiding by 0:19:41.893 --> 0:19:45.373 civil rights laws, according to a case called Bob Jones 0:19:45.493 --> 0:19:49.293 University versus the United States, you are not allowed to 0:19:49.293 --> 0:19:50.373 get a tax exemption. 0:19:50.453 --> 0:19:52.893 You're also not allowed to get federal funding. 0:19:53.253 --> 0:19:55.973 So Harvard, if it's you know, if it wants to 0:19:56.013 --> 0:19:59.893 continue not abiding by federal civil rights laws, it is 0:19:59.973 --> 0:20:03.973 free to not take federal money. I don't understand why 0:20:04.053 --> 0:20:07.453 my pocket has to get picked. And April fifteenth was 0:20:07.573 --> 0:20:09.053 tax day in the end United States. 0:20:09.213 --> 0:20:10.133 I'm not seeing why. 0:20:09.973 --> 0:20:12.333 My my money needs my pocket needs to get picked 0:20:12.333 --> 0:20:15.893 to go subsidize a place that is biased against Jews, 0:20:17.173 --> 0:20:21.253 white Americans, Asian Americans. And again I'm not sure. I'm 0:20:21.253 --> 0:20:24.413 not kind of throwing these things out there. There was 0:20:24.453 --> 0:20:26.653 a Supreme Court last year that found that Harvard was 0:20:26.653 --> 0:20:27.933 discriminating against. 0:20:27.693 --> 0:20:31.773 Asians in admissions. That's done the due process has happened. 0:20:31.933 --> 0:20:33.493 That's an established fact. 0:20:33.973 --> 0:20:36.973 And Harvard, of course, as Democrats tend to do, is 0:20:37.053 --> 0:20:39.973 massively resisting attempts to force it to comply with civil 0:20:40.053 --> 0:20:45.093 rights laws. And now the hammer comes down. That's that's 0:20:45.093 --> 0:20:50.893 that's how it is. There is a huge infrastructure of leftists, 0:20:51.973 --> 0:20:53.933 not only in the United States but around the world, non 0:20:54.013 --> 0:21:02.173 governmental organizations funded by American taxpayers, mostly at doing tasks 0:21:02.933 --> 0:21:06.173 that our counter to the interests of the United States. 0:21:07.373 --> 0:21:10.013 Donald Trump's the president of the United States. He's not 0:21:10.173 --> 0:21:14.813 citizens of the world. Okay, he's not a he's not 0:21:14.893 --> 0:21:17.373 a representative of some new world order. He is the 0:21:17.453 --> 0:21:19.933 President of the United States. And I expected president of 0:21:19.933 --> 0:21:23.493 the United States to act in the interests of the 0:21:23.533 --> 0:21:26.053 United States of America. I expect the president of Ukraine 0:21:26.333 --> 0:21:29.813 to act in the interests of Ukraine. I expect the 0:21:29.853 --> 0:21:32.653 Prime Minister of New Zealand to act in the interests 0:21:32.653 --> 0:21:33.733 of New Zealand. 0:21:35.293 --> 0:21:35.493 And. 0:21:35.493 --> 0:21:39.173 And that's a change that would be nice. Yes, I 0:21:39.213 --> 0:21:46.333 heard somebody refer to you as the writing king of x. 0:21:46.813 --> 0:21:49.653 Could you explain how how you became the writing king 0:21:49.693 --> 0:21:50.213 of X. 0:21:51.973 --> 0:21:52.493 Uh? 0:21:52.893 --> 0:21:55.773 You know, I started on exd boys sixteen years ago. 0:21:56.053 --> 0:21:59.693 I was a stand up comic. I I liked writing 0:21:59.813 --> 0:22:03.293 pithy jokes. The part about LAW that I liked was 0:22:03.333 --> 0:22:10.253 writing pithy briefs. Some people like crossword puzzles, people like Sudoku. 0:22:10.653 --> 0:22:13.013 For a long time, I liked writing jokes. There's a 0:22:13.093 --> 0:22:16.693 structure to jokes. There's a formed of writing jokes. If 0:22:16.733 --> 0:22:20.893 you read my columns, you'll see I write in essentially 0:22:21.053 --> 0:22:22.093 stand up comic. 0:22:23.093 --> 0:22:25.733 Uh oh yeah. 0:22:25.893 --> 0:22:33.813 And and I find I find Twitter mentally stimulating. It's fun, 0:22:34.333 --> 0:22:36.893 and I like I like talking to people. I like 0:22:37.013 --> 0:22:39.853 arguing with people. I like making points, I like learning things. 0:22:40.053 --> 0:22:44.693 I like videos about cute otters rolling around in the water. 0:22:45.413 --> 0:22:47.973 I just love everything about X. It allows you to 0:22:48.133 --> 0:22:52.973 participate in the marketplace of ideas in a way that 0:22:53.133 --> 0:22:55.573 was never possible before. Of course, Andrews de Brype are 0:22:55.773 --> 0:22:59.693 huge visionary for X. He knew that X was going 0:22:59.733 --> 0:23:05.893 to be something huge. But you know, I've had I've 0:23:05.933 --> 0:23:09.613 had conversations with the Vice President and state on X. 0:23:10.493 --> 0:23:11.533 Also met him in person. 0:23:11.613 --> 0:23:15.893 He's another Ohio guy like me h and a great guy, 0:23:16.133 --> 0:23:17.653 wonderful guy, brilliant guy. 0:23:17.693 --> 0:23:18.853 His wife's even smarter. 0:23:20.413 --> 0:23:24.093 But you know it gives you a chance to really 0:23:24.173 --> 0:23:28.173 participate in your own culture, in your own politics. 0:23:28.213 --> 0:23:29.973 The stink you want to I think that's great. 0:23:31.653 --> 0:23:33.853 You say, his wife's even smarter. I think every man 0:23:33.853 --> 0:23:36.293 should every man should have a smarter wife. 0:23:37.253 --> 0:23:41.093 Uh, well, he's certainly does and he is a smart cat. 0:23:41.253 --> 0:23:42.293 Do not be fooled. 0:23:42.973 --> 0:23:46.093 Here's this idea that Americans who don't live on the 0:23:46.133 --> 0:23:48.893 coast are a bunch of flat jaws and yokuls who 0:23:48.933 --> 0:23:52.773 are just waiting to ambush innocent canoeists. That that is 0:23:52.933 --> 0:23:58.093 very much not true. You know, go find a Texas 0:23:58.093 --> 0:24:00.493 cattleman and see if you can out negotiate him. 0:24:00.893 --> 0:24:02.053 It's it's gonna be tough. 0:24:03.333 --> 0:24:07.813 And he makes no apologies for coming from a very 0:24:07.893 --> 0:24:12.333 tough air a Appalachia. And then he he conquered you know, 0:24:12.453 --> 0:24:15.213 he he met the standards of the United States Marines, 0:24:15.253 --> 0:24:18.093 which are very high. He went to Yale Law School, 0:24:18.413 --> 0:24:21.333 which is, you know, super prestigious, and held his own. 0:24:21.373 --> 0:24:23.733 Then he went to Silicon Valley, held his own there, 0:24:23.813 --> 0:24:27.093 became a senator, became Vice President of the United States, 0:24:27.733 --> 0:24:35.333 and there's you know, there's this underlying bigotry against him 0:24:35.573 --> 0:24:38.573 as kind of uppity because he didn't know his place, 0:24:39.173 --> 0:24:41.413 and that just makes people like him more. 0:24:42.013 --> 0:24:43.693 And yeah, there's a lot. 0:24:43.573 --> 0:24:48.013 Of dynamics in America that I think are hard for 0:24:48.333 --> 0:24:49.213 folks who aren't. 0:24:49.053 --> 0:24:50.053 Americans to see. 0:24:50.093 --> 0:24:53.693 And I had the advantage of living overseas quite frequentized 0:24:53.693 --> 0:24:57.733 station in Europe two and a half three years once 0:24:58.173 --> 0:25:00.053 and then a year and a half a year or 0:25:00.053 --> 0:25:02.893 so another time, and I spent time over in Ukraine 0:25:02.933 --> 0:25:05.213 and stuff. So I had a little and I married 0:25:05.213 --> 0:25:09.493 an immigrant. My wife escaped casters Cuba and her family did, 0:25:09.573 --> 0:25:12.973 so I think I have a little different perspective than 0:25:13.093 --> 0:25:15.973 a lot of Americans, because you know, America is so 0:25:16.093 --> 0:25:18.613 big you you really don't have to leave it to 0:25:18.693 --> 0:25:24.173 see pretty much every facet of the world. But I 0:25:24.533 --> 0:25:26.653 think a lot of people looking in America from the 0:25:26.653 --> 0:25:30.373 outside don't fully get some of the nuances of our politics, 0:25:30.613 --> 0:25:33.573 especially the kind of social class and cultural one. 0:25:33.653 --> 0:25:37.173 It's interesting you there's a picture of you on on 0:25:37.213 --> 0:25:40.893 the website. I think it's I think it's on the 0:25:40.933 --> 0:25:43.973 town hall side with you and your wife. You're looking 0:25:44.013 --> 0:25:48.813 at each other and my wife. My wife came by, 0:25:49.013 --> 0:25:51.333 looked over my shoulder and said, oh, he's good looking, 0:25:52.013 --> 0:25:54.653 And I said not as good looking as his wife. 0:25:55.293 --> 0:26:00.333 Yeah, she saw. Sorry, I am such a Los Angelus 0:26:00.373 --> 0:26:01.173 lawyer I married. 0:26:01.533 --> 0:26:04.413 She was a model for a while. I literally married 0:26:04.413 --> 0:26:07.693 a model. That is the most Los Angeles lawyer stereotype possible. 0:26:08.733 --> 0:26:11.253 I am that show and you have and you have 0:26:11.373 --> 0:26:12.613 been happy ever since. 0:26:13.733 --> 0:26:17.253 Well, yeah, and we just finished a book together. We 0:26:17.493 --> 0:26:19.653 just wrote a novel together. It's gonna come out on 0:26:19.693 --> 0:26:23.613 the twenty fifth called Los Angeles Silver Bullets on the 0:26:23.653 --> 0:26:28.613 Sunset Strip, kind of a noir forties Raymond Chandler esque novel. 0:26:28.893 --> 0:26:31.893 It's just so much fun to write, and we did 0:26:31.933 --> 0:26:34.773 it together. We have a great cover artist, as all 0:26:34.773 --> 0:26:38.893 my covers, so we just had the experience. 0:26:38.413 --> 0:26:40.173 Of doing that. It was just I mean, it's really 0:26:40.213 --> 0:26:42.013 been a it's been nice. 0:26:42.093 --> 0:26:44.213 Well, as long as you've raised it, let's carry on 0:26:44.293 --> 0:26:46.933 with the with the book topic, because I have a 0:26:46.973 --> 0:26:50.253 copy of The Attack, and I think you wrote this 0:26:50.333 --> 0:26:54.533 on your own. I did from the author of Weeks 0:26:54.813 --> 0:26:57.773 from the the Will, I read a book once. It 0:26:57.773 --> 0:27:01.173 took me two years from the author, from the author 0:27:01.213 --> 0:27:05.573 of the People's Republic series The Attack. Now it's described 0:27:06.373 --> 0:27:10.773 as fripening only one description. Give us a give us 0:27:10.773 --> 0:27:13.413 a quick brief because it's not on it's not on sale. 0:27:13.493 --> 0:27:17.173 It's not on sale here, and I think it arguably 0:27:17.213 --> 0:27:17.573 should be. 0:27:19.853 --> 0:27:24.853 I I wrote it right after October seventh, uh, because 0:27:24.893 --> 0:27:27.373 I gotta tell you, I'm I'm concerned. Like I said, 0:27:27.373 --> 0:27:31.653 I'm retired army colonel's strategic Studies degree. I'm in contact 0:27:31.653 --> 0:27:34.173 with a lot of military people. I still talk to 0:27:34.253 --> 0:27:39.013 a lot of folks doing military things. We had a 0:27:39.053 --> 0:27:42.533 wide open border, and we had lots of enemies, and 0:27:43.533 --> 0:27:46.653 we the United States and I think other countries too, 0:27:46.693 --> 0:27:50.773 as we've seen, are extremely vulnerable to mass attack, to 0:27:50.853 --> 0:27:54.693 asymmetrical attacks, them hitting us at our weak point designed 0:27:54.693 --> 0:27:59.293 to break our spirit. The Attack Talks is essentially an 0:27:59.453 --> 0:28:02.853 oral history. It has about twenty five chapters each an 0:28:02.853 --> 0:28:06.373 individual who experienced some piece of a giant three day 0:28:06.413 --> 0:28:10.813 attack by thousands of jaha is supported by outside governments 0:28:11.133 --> 0:28:14.773 who use the weaknesses of the United States to literally 0:28:14.893 --> 0:28:17.253 murder as many Americans as they can with the idea 0:28:17.293 --> 0:28:19.333 of breaking our spirit. Now, I don't think that would 0:28:19.333 --> 0:28:24.933 break America's spirit. I think you would see America react 0:28:25.013 --> 0:28:28.093 with a cold fury that would make chill the spine 0:28:28.093 --> 0:28:34.773 of gageous con But We are a tremendously vulnerable country, 0:28:34.813 --> 0:28:37.573 but we're also a tremendously tough country, and we're a 0:28:37.573 --> 0:28:39.293 country that's ready to protect itself. 0:28:39.373 --> 0:28:41.613 While I am in Texas. I'm in Texas right now. 0:28:42.453 --> 0:28:44.413 Every time I walk out the door, I have a 0:28:44.533 --> 0:28:47.493 nine millimeter pistol on my hip unless I'm going to 0:28:47.533 --> 0:28:52.053 a bar, every single time in case something happens. California 0:28:52.053 --> 0:28:53.853 has a little different gun laws. It's kind of a 0:28:53.853 --> 0:28:57.293 fascist state. We'll fix it and then I'll carry there. 0:28:58.053 --> 0:29:05.213 But we are unbelievably vulnerable, and our government, by leaving 0:29:05.253 --> 0:29:09.293 our border open, let pretty much anybody in, and if 0:29:09.293 --> 0:29:12.653 you get them in at a very low cost, with 0:29:12.853 --> 0:29:19.493 minimal intelligence, minimal logistics, minimal command and control, you could 0:29:19.693 --> 0:29:23.533 launch a devastating attack that would kill tens of thousands 0:29:23.613 --> 0:29:24.373 of Americans. 0:29:24.613 --> 0:29:29.373 And that's what the attack's about. It is I wanted 0:29:29.373 --> 0:29:32.333 to write it. I wrote like Sir John Hackett. 0:29:32.693 --> 0:29:36.333 General Sir John Hackett wrote The Third World War back 0:29:36.413 --> 0:29:39.253 in I think nineteen eighty, and that was a huge 0:29:39.253 --> 0:29:41.333 book that made people look at NATO again and say, 0:29:41.373 --> 0:29:45.373 wait a minute, we're not ready for the Soviets. And 0:29:46.133 --> 0:29:48.573 I did in the same style the oral history style, 0:29:48.813 --> 0:29:51.373 create a character in one place to give you a 0:29:51.413 --> 0:29:54.733 piece of it. So it's not a Thetan Death March 0:29:55.333 --> 0:29:59.013 of statistics, numbers and rhetoric. 0:29:59.613 --> 0:30:02.173 I tried to make it the story. 0:30:01.893 --> 0:30:12.373 Of men and women, moms, dads, eric and you, repairman, comps, medics, 0:30:12.413 --> 0:30:12.893 all of them. 0:30:12.933 --> 0:30:15.933 What part of this did they experience? What does that 0:30:16.013 --> 0:30:20.773 tell you about the vulnerabilities as a whole? And of 0:30:20.813 --> 0:30:24.373 course the of course, one of the things is a 0:30:24.653 --> 0:30:30.053 B two bomber pilot who leads America's revenge against the 0:30:30.093 --> 0:30:35.173 country that plans. And you know, we lost three thousand 0:30:35.253 --> 0:30:37.693 people on nine to eleven, and we killed hundreds of 0:30:37.733 --> 0:30:41.093 thousands of people. If they killed tens of thousands of us, 0:30:41.333 --> 0:30:43.413 our enemies ought to be very, very frightened. 0:30:43.733 --> 0:30:45.693 I just flicked through the book while you were talking 0:30:45.733 --> 0:30:49.293 and came across chapter twenty one, which is set in Houston. 0:30:50.493 --> 0:30:53.733 There is a there is a development taking place in Texas. 0:30:53.773 --> 0:30:56.333 I think it's I think it's in Dallas rather than Houston, 0:30:56.653 --> 0:30:58.333 although it could be could be wrong. 0:30:58.373 --> 0:30:59.573 I think it's near Waco. 0:30:59.493 --> 0:31:02.813 But you know what I'm talking about, Yes, I know what. 0:31:02.733 --> 0:31:03.813 You're talking about. 0:31:04.333 --> 0:31:09.253 It is a town that essentially is being built to 0:31:09.573 --> 0:31:15.413 operate under Sharia law essentially, and it's a foothold in 0:31:15.533 --> 0:31:19.693 Texas as a municipality, and that can't be allowed to happen. 0:31:20.853 --> 0:31:24.413 Now there's one law, it's our constitution. We don't have 0:31:24.493 --> 0:31:27.733 two laws. We don't have two dual tracks. One of 0:31:27.773 --> 0:31:30.853 the problems in the United States is we got away 0:31:30.893 --> 0:31:33.533 from something that made us great, which is when you 0:31:33.533 --> 0:31:36.493 come here, you shed who you are and you become 0:31:36.533 --> 0:31:37.333 an American. 0:31:37.573 --> 0:31:39.133 I don't care where you came from. 0:31:40.373 --> 0:31:43.413 A guy who came from Nigeria's as much an American 0:31:43.653 --> 0:31:47.373 as a guy who came from Stuttgart right or in 0:31:47.693 --> 0:31:49.293 in my family's case, Bavaria. 0:31:49.973 --> 0:31:52.213 But some people got away from that. 0:31:52.853 --> 0:31:55.013 And one of the great things about America is we 0:31:55.053 --> 0:31:58.573 thought of ourselves as Americans first. You know, for a 0:31:58.613 --> 0:32:00.613 long time, if you went up to a white American, 0:32:00.693 --> 0:32:03.053 you would say, well, what are you? And in lots 0:32:03.053 --> 0:32:05.333 of other countries, and I was in Coastavot, so I 0:32:05.413 --> 0:32:09.253 know a little about Balkanization, walk up to what are you? 0:32:09.293 --> 0:32:13.133 We're on an American? Well you have white skin, and 0:32:13.813 --> 0:32:16.453 so what you know. My grandfather came from Midland. I 0:32:16.493 --> 0:32:18.413 have a great pasta recipe what's that now? 0:32:19.413 --> 0:32:20.013 And it. 0:32:21.813 --> 0:32:24.493 I mean we had I remember in the California and 0:32:24.573 --> 0:32:27.853 the National Guard a reserve unit down near Mexico. We 0:32:27.893 --> 0:32:30.693 had a whole tank unit that operated in Spanish on 0:32:30.733 --> 0:32:35.573 the radio. Super super patriotic, all American guys. They just 0:32:35.573 --> 0:32:39.373 happened to speak Spanish and we were Americans first. And 0:32:39.413 --> 0:32:43.013 when we got away from that, that really began. I mean, 0:32:43.053 --> 0:32:45.613 this was the American miracle. I mean, when I was 0:32:45.653 --> 0:32:48.613 in Costa, Though, you would go to a village of Albanians, 0:32:48.773 --> 0:32:52.693 who are mostly Muslim, about ten percent of Christian. Mother 0:32:52.773 --> 0:32:55.893 Teresa came from Albania. You you would in the next 0:32:55.973 --> 0:32:57.373 village over would be Serbian. 0:32:57.613 --> 0:32:59.573 And they've been together, they lived next to. 0:32:59.693 --> 0:33:01.973 Each other in peace for one hundred and fifty two hundred, 0:33:01.973 --> 0:33:05.933 three hundred, five hundred years. And then Melissa that came 0:33:05.973 --> 0:33:10.693 in decided he was going to push a racialization agenda, 0:33:10.853 --> 0:33:14.213 and pretty soon those Albanians and those serves were butchering 0:33:14.293 --> 0:33:18.213 each other, butchering their neighbors. It was inconceivable to us 0:33:18.213 --> 0:33:22.413 as Americans, and we've got to do everything we can 0:33:22.533 --> 0:33:26.973 to stop that. How do you You've got to be American, 0:33:27.053 --> 0:33:28.093 you can't be anything else. 0:33:28.213 --> 0:33:31.133 How do you interpret that? I mean, you've had you've 0:33:31.173 --> 0:33:37.533 had I would suggest vast experience on the waterfront. How 0:33:37.573 --> 0:33:43.173 would you describe and explain the willingness and the quickness 0:33:43.333 --> 0:33:46.413 of people to turn on each other and sort of 0:33:46.573 --> 0:33:47.413 sort of the other lot. 0:33:48.853 --> 0:33:53.973 It's throughout history, that's what human beings have done. In 0:33:54.013 --> 0:33:56.733 a way, America and some of the other in some 0:33:56.773 --> 0:34:01.053 of our countries have beaten history. You know, they managed 0:34:01.093 --> 0:34:04.693 to get beyond it. It wasn't we weren't faded to 0:34:04.773 --> 0:34:09.813 do it. We could be better. Sure, there are always problems, 0:34:09.853 --> 0:34:13.453 you know, New Zealand has has its own racial problems. 0:34:14.173 --> 0:34:19.373 We certainly have ours. But the solution to those problems 0:34:20.253 --> 0:34:25.253 is Pluber's una out of many one. 0:34:25.333 --> 0:34:28.653 And that's that's what we have to do. There's no 0:34:28.893 --> 0:34:29.453 other way. 0:34:29.653 --> 0:34:35.413 You cannot You cannot have baltimization without hatred. It doesn't work. 0:34:35.533 --> 0:34:38.333 History teaches us that, So we have to make a 0:34:38.373 --> 0:34:44.213 conscious choice to minimize. You know, I have relatives who 0:34:44.293 --> 0:34:47.293 came from Scotland. That all that needs to be is 0:34:47.333 --> 0:34:50.093 a fun fact in my life. I don't need to be, 0:34:50.613 --> 0:34:54.653 you know, militantly Scottish. 0:34:55.013 --> 0:34:58.573 I'm American, and that's that's really what we've got to 0:34:58.613 --> 0:34:59.373 get back to here in. 0:34:59.373 --> 0:35:02.493 The unit sty Well, you're really you're really an Italian 0:35:02.533 --> 0:35:03.533 Scottish American. 0:35:04.213 --> 0:35:05.933 Well I'm I'm not Italian. 0:35:07.053 --> 0:35:11.973 I am a percent German or Scottish and one percent Pannonian. 0:35:12.093 --> 0:35:15.533 And I think back in the day of like Tiberius 0:35:15.653 --> 0:35:20.453 or maybe Trajan, So some guy from the Balkans got assigned. 0:35:20.013 --> 0:35:23.213 To a legion up in up in Germany. 0:35:23.453 --> 0:35:27.853 And that's that's the one percent of my bloodbed's Balkans. 0:35:28.173 --> 0:35:31.173 I'm looking at the headline. I don't know whether you 0:35:31.333 --> 0:35:36.933 familiar with Michael Snyder. No, he's a he's a religious man, 0:35:37.453 --> 0:35:40.493 but he's a realist. And I came across FIW years 0:35:40.493 --> 0:35:43.773 ago and the well I just stuff drops into my 0:35:43.813 --> 0:35:47.413 box along with a million others. But occasionally I get 0:35:47.453 --> 0:35:49.853 attracted by a headline. The US dollar is crashing and 0:35:49.933 --> 0:35:53.093 our reserve currency status is in serious jeopardy? Is this 0:35:53.253 --> 0:35:56.213 being done by design? Got a thought? 0:35:57.293 --> 0:36:00.613 I no, America. I think America is just he a 0:36:00.613 --> 0:36:06.013 reserve currency because we are we are strong and free 0:36:06.093 --> 0:36:11.053 despite our many problems. And I although there's a little 0:36:11.133 --> 0:36:14.773 chaos and upsetting the world order right now, it's all 0:36:14.813 --> 0:36:15.533 going to fade. 0:36:15.533 --> 0:36:16.853 And I got to tell you, you. 0:36:16.813 --> 0:36:20.053 Know, most Americans, because of something called a four oh 0:36:20.133 --> 0:36:24.893 one k are invested in the stock market. Right you 0:36:24.933 --> 0:36:27.573 can invest tax free and that becomes retirement money. And 0:36:27.653 --> 0:36:30.733 I am like everybody else, and nobody wants to look 0:36:30.773 --> 0:36:34.213 at the nobody wants to look at their accounts online 0:36:34.333 --> 0:36:38.613 while the stock market's going through turmoil, turmoil, But America 0:36:38.853 --> 0:36:43.453 is it's hard to express it. In the nineteen eighties 0:36:43.533 --> 0:36:49.013 under Ronald Reagan, you had an explosion of American prosperity 0:36:49.133 --> 0:36:52.933 and just optimism and we were all out there going, man, 0:36:53.013 --> 0:36:56.613 we can just do anything. And that, you know, went 0:36:56.613 --> 0:37:02.013 through the nineties nine to eleven happened the Wall Street crash. Obama, 0:37:02.093 --> 0:37:07.573 who didn't promote that, he was not a real American cheerleader, 0:37:08.413 --> 0:37:10.173 but Donald Trump started bringing that back. 0:37:10.213 --> 0:37:13.733 First term. Biden kind of put a brake on it. 0:37:14.733 --> 0:37:18.653 But I think I can feel that, and I see 0:37:18.653 --> 0:37:22.133 evidence the Americans are ready to work. Americans are ready 0:37:22.133 --> 0:37:24.853 to get back out there and have a great economy again, 0:37:25.133 --> 0:37:26.453 to have another. 0:37:26.133 --> 0:37:29.533 Golden age like we did in the eighties and nineties. 0:37:30.093 --> 0:37:33.773 And you know, it's weird that there's a whole generation 0:37:33.893 --> 0:37:36.093 unless you were like forty. You were never an adult 0:37:36.133 --> 0:37:40.013 when America was really hitting on all eight cylinders. 0:37:40.453 --> 0:37:43.173 You know, I'm sixty. I grew up. 0:37:44.173 --> 0:37:48.133 It never occurred to me ever that I could not 0:37:48.333 --> 0:37:51.933 do or be whatever I wanted to be now as Californian. 0:37:52.413 --> 0:37:56.053 So we have that positive attitude, but it never occurred 0:37:56.053 --> 0:37:57.773 to me I couldn't do what I wanted to do, 0:37:58.293 --> 0:38:00.213 and I've been able to do. I built a law firm, 0:38:00.293 --> 0:38:02.653 I got to have a career active in reserve in 0:38:02.693 --> 0:38:04.773 the army. I could be a stand up I could 0:38:04.773 --> 0:38:06.213 write best selling books. 0:38:06.413 --> 0:38:07.533 I could be on the media. 0:38:08.173 --> 0:38:11.253 I did it, and that's it's that's same optimism, and 0:38:11.293 --> 0:38:13.773 I you know, we want to get back to that, 0:38:13.853 --> 0:38:16.453 and I think America is ready to do it. So 0:38:16.893 --> 0:38:20.453 I think I think America is going to do it. 0:38:20.533 --> 0:38:25.893 I think when the economic stuff, the reordering shapes out, 0:38:26.293 --> 0:38:28.973 I think we're going to see America back and very strong. 0:38:29.053 --> 0:38:32.613 Remember Trump has a huge incentive for economic success. 0:38:32.653 --> 0:38:34.373 He has literally. 0:38:34.053 --> 0:38:36.653 Got to do it and got to get things kicking 0:38:36.693 --> 0:38:40.293 before November twenty sixth, when we have midterm elections to 0:38:40.333 --> 0:38:42.733 re elect the House to representatives and thirty three of 0:38:42.733 --> 0:38:47.653 our senators thirty three or one hundred, and he's got 0:38:47.653 --> 0:38:51.293 to win in twenty twenty eight, and we saw what 0:38:51.373 --> 0:38:54.773 happens when he loses. If the left gets power, they 0:38:54.893 --> 0:38:59.133 will attempt to frame him again. And at least one 0:38:59.213 --> 0:39:01.133 leftist and we don't know about the other guy, but 0:39:01.213 --> 0:39:03.533 we know one was an active leftist tried to murder 0:39:03.613 --> 0:39:07.293 it and ended up murdering one guy wounding a couple others. 0:39:07.653 --> 0:39:10.373 So for Trump, he's really gotten a life and death 0:39:10.373 --> 0:39:14.493 incentive for him and his family. I I think we're 0:39:14.853 --> 0:39:18.253 I think the United States is going to get back 0:39:18.533 --> 0:39:23.253 uh to becoming the economic engine uh it was, and 0:39:23.533 --> 0:39:26.373 I think it's going to uh. I think our friends 0:39:26.413 --> 0:39:29.693 around the world are going to uh share uh share. 0:39:29.493 --> 0:39:30.373 That with us. 0:39:30.653 --> 0:39:33.973 I'm quoting from from one of the one of your books, 0:39:34.973 --> 0:39:35.973 The People's Republic. 0:39:37.013 --> 0:39:38.533 Oh boy, and. 0:39:38.573 --> 0:39:39.453 You want to explain that. 0:39:41.053 --> 0:39:43.973 People's Republic is the series of eight books about the 0:39:44.053 --> 0:39:47.333 United States that has split into into a red and 0:39:47.413 --> 0:39:52.133 a blue that is a conservative and a leftist uh 0:39:52.253 --> 0:39:57.333 countries and uh it uh it involves a red operative 0:39:57.333 --> 0:40:00.213 who goes into the leftist countries and shows what happens 0:40:00.413 --> 0:40:03.373 if America essentially becomes a giant college campus. 0:40:03.493 --> 0:40:04.493 Uh and uh. 0:40:04.813 --> 0:40:08.453 You know it's funny in part, lots of action, lots 0:40:08.213 --> 0:40:12.053 of humor, but it's scary too because there are some 0:40:12.173 --> 0:40:17.693 fault lines in America and they, you know, they could 0:40:17.693 --> 0:40:22.013 break over into violence. Some Hamasque loving scumbag tried to 0:40:22.093 --> 0:40:26.853 burn the Jewish family of the governor of Pennsylvania live 0:40:26.973 --> 0:40:29.533 the other day. They's broke in and threw firebombs in 0:40:29.613 --> 0:40:33.693 his house. Yeah, And like I said, people try to murder. 0:40:33.733 --> 0:40:37.813 The president did murder one American citizen who was simply 0:40:38.693 --> 0:40:40.973 exercising his right to be at a political rally. They 0:40:40.973 --> 0:40:45.893 blew his head off. The human capacity for violence is 0:40:45.973 --> 0:40:49.773 never that far beneath the surface, and People's Republic talks 0:40:49.813 --> 0:40:51.493 about what happens when it bubbles up. 0:40:51.973 --> 0:40:54.493 So the cride from the book, and I've chosen this 0:40:54.653 --> 0:41:00.773 especially for I think obviously a mutual interest. The voice 0:41:00.813 --> 0:41:03.733 of the television announceder warned that the climate change crisis 0:41:03.853 --> 0:41:07.933 was once again just one year away from reaching the 0:41:07.933 --> 0:41:11.813 point of no return, and urged the largely pedestrian citizen 0:41:11.853 --> 0:41:15.693 ry to continue to reduce their collective carbon footprint full 0:41:15.733 --> 0:41:20.213 stop butt and explain the butt what comes next? 0:41:22.213 --> 0:41:23.613 God, there's so much. 0:41:24.053 --> 0:41:26.573 I don't even remember that line, but it certainly sounds 0:41:26.573 --> 0:41:31.613 like something I would write. I find the whole climate 0:41:31.693 --> 0:41:34.573 change thing to be a bizarre manifestation of a pagan 0:41:34.653 --> 0:41:38.653 religion at best, and a cheesy attempt to take money 0:41:38.693 --> 0:41:42.613 and power from normal people through an abuse of science. 0:41:42.733 --> 0:41:45.253 I have been told since I was a kid we 0:41:45.253 --> 0:41:47.573 were on the verge of doo. We were gonna have 0:41:47.613 --> 0:41:50.333 a population explosion that never worked out. We were gonna 0:41:50.333 --> 0:41:52.533 have an ice age that didn't work out. We were 0:41:52.573 --> 0:41:55.773 going to be boiled alive because the ozone layer was gone. 0:41:56.253 --> 0:41:58.053 That didn't work out. We're going to be melted by 0:41:58.093 --> 0:41:59.573 acid rain that didn't know how. 0:42:00.133 --> 0:42:04.493 And then we have been five years away from. 0:42:06.213 --> 0:42:09.973 Climate heat or oh look, global warming armageddon, and of 0:42:10.013 --> 0:42:13.053 course that was We've had that for about thirty years. 0:42:13.493 --> 0:42:17.133 And then then when it became obvious that wasn't go 0:42:17.293 --> 0:42:20.093 work out, it became climate change. And as a lawyer 0:42:20.133 --> 0:42:22.653 I really respected because when you have clime, when you 0:42:22.693 --> 0:42:27.053 talk about climate change, literally anything the climate does except 0:42:27.173 --> 0:42:32.453 stay perfectly static, proves your point. It's like the perfect argument. 0:42:33.693 --> 0:42:37.613 As a lawyer, I really admire it. I mean, it's nonsense, 0:42:38.373 --> 0:42:43.053 but I do admire it. And I've noticed that climate 0:42:43.133 --> 0:42:48.213 change inevitably involves me becoming less free to do what 0:42:48.293 --> 0:42:51.853 I want and me giving up money and power to 0:42:51.973 --> 0:42:57.573 other people. There's I have searched high and low for 0:42:57.893 --> 0:43:02.613 one thing to remedy climate change that makes me more freer, 0:43:03.493 --> 0:43:05.413 or be freer, or more. 0:43:05.253 --> 0:43:06.093 Cross for us. 0:43:06.573 --> 0:43:08.693 And of course the point is to make me less 0:43:08.773 --> 0:43:12.013 free and less prosperous, because then I'll be a more 0:43:12.053 --> 0:43:12.773 willing surf. 0:43:14.093 --> 0:43:18.013 Over this period of time that we're discussing, you could 0:43:18.053 --> 0:43:22.253 start with, well, I'm thinking nine to eleven, but we'd 0:43:22.333 --> 0:43:25.013 have to go back a bit further actually, But through this, 0:43:25.573 --> 0:43:29.053 let's say the last three to four decades, do you 0:43:29.093 --> 0:43:30.733 think that human nature has changed? 0:43:31.813 --> 0:43:33.733 No? 0:43:33.733 --> 0:43:37.373 No, human nature won't change, which is why it is 0:43:37.453 --> 0:43:41.093 so important to read history and think about history. You know, 0:43:42.173 --> 0:43:45.133 one of the great hopeful signs to me was a 0:43:45.253 --> 0:43:47.573 meme from not long ago. It says the average man 0:43:47.613 --> 0:43:49.933 thinks about the Roman Empire two or three times a day, 0:43:50.493 --> 0:43:54.053 and I thought that's terrific. I mean, it's a good start, 0:43:54.853 --> 0:43:58.053 but you know, you also want to think about ancient Greece. 0:43:58.093 --> 0:43:59.733 Do you want to think about more modern things? You want 0:43:59.773 --> 0:44:02.773 to think about work thrift. You want to think about, 0:44:03.653 --> 0:44:07.813 you know, the smooth Holly terrorists. You want to think 0:44:07.853 --> 0:44:12.453 about the voice of Magella. You want to think about history, 0:44:12.493 --> 0:44:16.773 because history teaches you how people are. And I found that, 0:44:17.333 --> 0:44:19.173 you know, there are two things that'll tell you about 0:44:19.253 --> 0:44:23.693 human nature better than anything else, which is history and 0:44:24.053 --> 0:44:27.253 the Bible. Now, even if you're not religious, if you 0:44:27.333 --> 0:44:31.693 read the Bible, the actions of human beings are that 0:44:31.773 --> 0:44:37.453 it depicts are so archetypal that if you come to 0:44:37.493 --> 0:44:40.053 an understanding of what they're talking about in there, you're 0:44:40.053 --> 0:44:43.173 going to understand how people operate, particularly the Old Testament. 0:44:43.493 --> 0:44:45.933 I suppose it all really started for most people at 0:44:46.013 --> 0:44:48.333 nine to eleven. But over a period of time I 0:44:48.413 --> 0:44:53.093 suggested to people that if you don't understand biblical history, 0:44:53.373 --> 0:44:56.453 you'll never understand what the issues are in the Middle East. 0:44:57.133 --> 0:45:02.653 Correct that it is so strange that, you know, so 0:45:02.733 --> 0:45:06.933 many modern people think that history began, you know, thirty 0:45:07.013 --> 0:45:10.493 years ago, forty years ago, and we don't exactly have 0:45:10.533 --> 0:45:14.093 a crystal ball, but we've got a template that is history, 0:45:15.013 --> 0:45:17.413 and you can look at it and you can see 0:45:17.413 --> 0:45:20.693 how things works out. And sometimes it's scary, but sometimes 0:45:20.533 --> 0:45:25.213 it provides a hopeful path. But nine to eleven really 0:45:25.653 --> 0:45:28.453 knocked the United States out of its complacency and it 0:45:28.493 --> 0:45:31.933 got back to America's roots. You gotta understand some about America. 0:45:32.533 --> 0:45:38.853 We came to a continent dominated by indigenous people of 0:45:38.973 --> 0:45:42.293 various levels of savage rate. We just found another altar 0:45:42.493 --> 0:45:47.613 of Aztecs for butchering children. But you know, the indigenous 0:45:47.613 --> 0:45:52.973 American Indians weren't particularly you know, nice people either, and 0:45:53.013 --> 0:45:56.133 we fought our way across it and conquered it. America 0:45:56.333 --> 0:46:00.933 is a country that is very, very tough. It's really 0:46:00.973 --> 0:46:03.813 what we call JACKSONI and after Andrew Jackson. I don't 0:46:03.813 --> 0:46:06.533 want to fight, but if I fight, I'm gonna kill you, 0:46:06.693 --> 0:46:09.213 and I'm gonna kill everybody you ever met. And then 0:46:09.213 --> 0:46:10.693 I'm going to come home so I don't have to 0:46:10.733 --> 0:46:15.253 fight anymore. And unfortunately we got misguided after nine to eleven. 0:46:15.853 --> 0:46:18.453 I'm a big believer in punitive expeditions. We should have 0:46:18.493 --> 0:46:21.693 gone in Afghanistan and killed everybody who had anything to 0:46:21.693 --> 0:46:27.693 do with it, destroy their infrastructure, and make them use 0:46:27.893 --> 0:46:31.053 the name American to scare children for the next one 0:46:31.133 --> 0:46:32.173 hundred generations. 0:46:32.333 --> 0:46:33.453 But then we should have left. 0:46:34.613 --> 0:46:38.213 We didn't, and a lot of Americans die by the way. 0:46:38.253 --> 0:46:42.013 I want to thank New Zealand for its contribution. I 0:46:42.093 --> 0:46:46.013 know that at least one SAS soldier won the Victoria 0:46:46.093 --> 0:46:47.493 Cross who was a New Zealander. 0:46:48.093 --> 0:46:49.653 The bravery of New Zealand. 0:46:49.413 --> 0:46:54.093 Soldiers is legendary, and we American soldiers recognized and respected 0:46:55.053 --> 0:46:55.813 so well. 0:46:55.893 --> 0:46:58.613 If you asked, if you asked virtually anybody here at 0:46:58.613 --> 0:47:03.293 the moment, what's the standard about our defense forces, they 0:47:03.413 --> 0:47:05.813 probably cry, well. 0:47:06.533 --> 0:47:09.773 Say here, we're rebuilt at Pete Hagsath is our new 0:47:09.813 --> 0:47:14.613 Secretary of Defense infantry officer. He's you either want a 0:47:14.613 --> 0:47:16.853 guy who's a number cruncher or a guy is a killer. 0:47:17.973 --> 0:47:21.373 Right now we need a killer. He's a killer. We're 0:47:21.373 --> 0:47:24.533 going to get back. I don't look the American spirit 0:47:25.053 --> 0:47:28.693 that made us who we are, which includes our ability 0:47:28.693 --> 0:47:31.613 to fight wars, is not dead. I'm no expert on 0:47:31.653 --> 0:47:34.173 New Zealand, but I would expect that in times of trouble, 0:47:34.213 --> 0:47:36.933 the New Zealanders will rise to the standards that New 0:47:37.013 --> 0:47:42.413 Zealanders have always risen to. Again, New Zealanders are New 0:47:42.493 --> 0:47:46.613 Zealand soldiers are very well respected by Americans. If you're 0:47:46.613 --> 0:47:51.133 a professional Soldier Australia and New Zealand. Those guys are top, 0:47:51.533 --> 0:47:52.653 top notch. 0:47:53.893 --> 0:47:55.653 And then we need to do it kick stout again. 0:47:56.413 --> 0:47:58.453 I think I want to, I want to want to 0:47:58.453 --> 0:48:03.493 transfer attention to the law in many respects. I mean, 0:48:03.533 --> 0:48:07.093 I made some comments to three weeks back regarding and 0:48:07.133 --> 0:48:09.373 I think I quoted a bit too, the Agony of 0:48:09.453 --> 0:48:14.973 John Roberts. Yes, written by yourself, and I thought it 0:48:15.013 --> 0:48:18.453 was an extremely good I'm looking I'm looking at it. 0:48:18.493 --> 0:48:21.173 I'm looking at the pink and the green markings that 0:48:21.213 --> 0:48:27.053 I like as my code. It's all green normally, and 0:48:27.053 --> 0:48:29.333 then if it's pink, it's it's extra important. 0:48:30.253 --> 0:48:30.933 Oh wow. 0:48:31.373 --> 0:48:35.413 And you, I mean, you tell the story of John 0:48:35.453 --> 0:48:38.093 Roberts from your perspective, which I think is pretty much 0:48:38.253 --> 0:48:41.213 pretty much on target. So in the last in the 0:48:41.293 --> 0:48:45.293 last two weeks, maybe even three, since since you wrote this, 0:48:45.933 --> 0:48:48.893 has Roberts redeemed himself at all. 0:48:49.813 --> 0:48:55.373 A little bit for your listeners. The United States Constitution sets. 0:48:55.173 --> 0:48:56.253 For three branches. 0:48:56.973 --> 0:48:59.693 Article one is the legislature, Article two is the executive. 0:48:59.933 --> 0:49:03.933 Article three is the courts. And they are. 0:49:04.133 --> 0:49:07.893 Supposed to be coequal, but they're not quite. They check 0:49:07.933 --> 0:49:11.253 and ballt each other The courts, of course, don't have 0:49:11.293 --> 0:49:16.773 an army and they can't enforce anything. The executive, course 0:49:17.013 --> 0:49:19.813 is commander in chief of the military, has federal law enforcement. 0:49:20.573 --> 0:49:23.333 The legislative has the power of the purse power to 0:49:23.333 --> 0:49:27.493 pass laws. The court can only issue rulings, and then 0:49:27.573 --> 0:49:30.413 the Article two guys, the executive has to enforce them. Well, 0:49:30.413 --> 0:49:33.213 we're having a fight between Article two the executive president 0:49:33.693 --> 0:49:37.173 and Article three the courts. And the problem now is 0:49:37.213 --> 0:49:39.413 you have district courts. You have the way we go 0:49:39.453 --> 0:49:41.533 as district courts, they're the ones who i know, the 0:49:41.533 --> 0:49:44.013 trials for everything. There's the second level, which is the 0:49:44.053 --> 0:49:49.653 appellate level. There's eleven or twelve of those, and they 0:49:49.693 --> 0:49:54.533 handle appeals. The Supreme Court handles about forty or fifty 0:49:54.573 --> 0:49:58.373 cases from the courts of appeals or state courts, which 0:49:58.413 --> 0:50:01.773 is a whole different thing every year. So the Supreme 0:50:01.813 --> 0:50:05.653 Court's not out there, you know, being the Hindu god 0:50:05.693 --> 0:50:08.973 that's pulling all the levers. It does a few things 0:50:09.013 --> 0:50:10.933 to kind of set a standard, and then the lower 0:50:10.973 --> 0:50:12.653 courts are supposed to follow. But we have a lot 0:50:12.653 --> 0:50:16.133 of district court judges who are appointed by Biden who 0:50:16.213 --> 0:50:21.133 do not have judicial modesty and are exceeding the proper 0:50:21.213 --> 0:50:24.413 scope of their authority to impinge on the ability of 0:50:24.453 --> 0:50:27.893 the executive to act. And we're having a fight over it. 0:50:27.933 --> 0:50:31.173 People say it's a constitutional crisis. No, no, no, it's not. 0:50:32.293 --> 0:50:34.493 We're having a fight over it. We're having a fight 0:50:34.573 --> 0:50:39.253 in the courts. You know, Trump administrations complying with orders 0:50:39.413 --> 0:50:42.933 right now, passively, aggressively in some cases. 0:50:42.573 --> 0:50:43.653 But complying with them. 0:50:43.973 --> 0:50:47.333 But one of the texts and balances for the executive 0:50:47.533 --> 0:50:50.413 is to simply say it's an implied one. But you 0:50:50.413 --> 0:50:52.733 can simply say no, it's not like you can send 0:50:52.773 --> 0:50:54.453 a division to troops that don't make me. 0:50:55.013 --> 0:50:56.133 I'm not going to do it. 0:50:56.373 --> 0:50:59.253 And the courts always have to understand that John Roberts 0:50:59.293 --> 0:51:03.373 is the Chief Justice of Supreme Court, is responsible for 0:51:03.453 --> 0:51:06.293 trying to keep the power of the courts, which is 0:51:06.413 --> 0:51:12.213 really based on its own moral authority. And a lot 0:51:12.253 --> 0:51:17.293 of these district courts are blatantly making procedural and substance 0:51:17.453 --> 0:51:22.133 rulings that are frankly ridiculous. Now, I litigate in federal 0:51:22.173 --> 0:51:24.893 and state courts for thirty years. I've argued in front 0:51:24.893 --> 0:51:26.693 of the courts with you. I never argued in from 0:51:26.773 --> 0:51:29.213 the Supreme Court. But this is not an alien world 0:51:29.213 --> 0:51:32.013 to me. I do look at what's happening now, and 0:51:32.053 --> 0:51:34.653 it is crazy. It is not the standard law that 0:51:34.693 --> 0:51:37.253 I practice for thirty years. A lot of it's just 0:51:37.293 --> 0:51:42.213 frankly nuts and politically results driven. And this is a 0:51:42.933 --> 0:51:45.213 fight that we have to have and we have to solve. 0:51:45.813 --> 0:51:49.493 And at the end, the courts could come out with 0:51:49.533 --> 0:51:52.533 a lot less power and authority if they squander it. 0:51:53.133 --> 0:51:59.133 John Roberts needs to get his branch acting within its 0:51:59.173 --> 0:52:06.573 proper role. And if he doesn't, at some point, Donald Trump's. 0:52:06.293 --> 0:52:06.973 Going to say no. 0:52:07.733 --> 0:52:11.133 And Donald Trump's going to have and Donald Trump's going 0:52:11.173 --> 0:52:13.093 to do it on the eighty side of an eighty 0:52:13.973 --> 0:52:17.893 percent issue. He's not going to do it on something 0:52:17.893 --> 0:52:21.373 this controversial. He's gonna do this somewhere. Most Americans are like, oh, yeah, 0:52:21.533 --> 0:52:23.853 that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, we shouldn't be 0:52:23.853 --> 0:52:29.933 giving five hundred thousand dollars to support Ecuadorian transgender mind troops. 0:52:31.093 --> 0:52:33.573 And normal people are going to go, well, if the 0:52:33.613 --> 0:52:36.613 court tells them he has to do that, what good 0:52:36.613 --> 0:52:39.733 are the courts? And then John Roberts's brands is going 0:52:39.773 --> 0:52:41.733 to have a problem. So we're gonna have to work 0:52:41.773 --> 0:52:42.173 this out. 0:52:42.653 --> 0:52:44.973 But well, you keep saying we're going to have to 0:52:45.013 --> 0:52:47.653 work it out. But it's the it's the justices of 0:52:47.733 --> 0:52:50.173 the Serene Court, the nine of them that really have 0:52:50.253 --> 0:52:52.133 to have to do it, because if they don't do it, 0:52:52.133 --> 0:52:55.733 if he doesn't come, if he doesn't wake up and 0:52:55.773 --> 0:53:00.493 do what he's responsible for, then all hell could break loose, 0:53:00.933 --> 0:53:01.213 could it? 0:53:01.293 --> 0:53:05.413 Well that that that's true, I guess I'm looking at 0:53:05.453 --> 0:53:07.333 it in the sense of all. 0:53:07.173 --> 0:53:11.253 Americans have got to you know. 0:53:11.493 --> 0:53:14.733 The responsibilities on those nine, but all Americans have got 0:53:14.773 --> 0:53:16.533 to get together and say, wait a minute, we want 0:53:16.573 --> 0:53:18.333 a system that works, and the only way we have 0:53:18.373 --> 0:53:22.053 a system that works is if everybody honors their obligations. 0:53:22.733 --> 0:53:25.533 And many of the disreports aren't doing that. 0:53:26.013 --> 0:53:29.013 The problem is there are a lot of Americans who 0:53:29.253 --> 0:53:35.053 support ignoring the norms and guard rails. They keep the 0:53:35.133 --> 0:53:37.053 Constitution humming along. 0:53:38.093 --> 0:53:40.493 And I talk about it a lot, the. 0:53:40.413 --> 0:53:44.013 New rules that there's a special exception for Donald Trump 0:53:44.333 --> 0:53:47.773 to the norms and customs and rules that we usually practice. 0:53:47.813 --> 0:53:50.813 He's so bad, We've got to do something different. No, no, no, 0:53:50.813 --> 0:53:51.213 no no. 0:53:51.973 --> 0:53:54.653 If you really want to preserve the system, when somebody 0:53:54.693 --> 0:54:00.093 bad comes along, you use the system rigorously, You honor 0:54:00.173 --> 0:54:03.693 every norm, and that's the best way to deal. If 0:54:03.733 --> 0:54:07.453 you get rid of all the norms, don't expect unilateral disarmament. 0:54:07.533 --> 0:54:10.293 Like I said, rep used to be about winning the argument. 0:54:10.333 --> 0:54:13.293 Now they're about winning the fight. And there's a reason 0:54:13.333 --> 0:54:13.653 for that. 0:54:14.413 --> 0:54:18.773 What about big law the situation that we're still developing, 0:54:18.813 --> 0:54:23.893 I guess of the big law firms that Trump's been well, 0:54:23.933 --> 0:54:28.653 the thej I guess, has been targeting, some say because 0:54:28.693 --> 0:54:31.333 of what they did to him prior to in losing 0:54:31.413 --> 0:54:35.093 the election in twenty twenty, or the previous election, if 0:54:35.133 --> 0:54:39.173 you like. But these law firms seem to be compounding. 0:54:39.613 --> 0:54:41.773 My understanding is, and you tell me if I'm wrong, 0:54:42.373 --> 0:54:45.413 is that it started with a forty million contra deal 0:54:45.533 --> 0:54:49.013 with one big law firm. It's now developed to the 0:54:49.093 --> 0:54:52.693 point where the combination of all the law firms reputedly 0:54:52.933 --> 0:54:57.093 are doing work for the government for nothing amounting to 0:54:57.693 --> 0:55:01.573 a billion dollars. You know, Is that good or bang? 0:55:01.653 --> 0:55:04.133 A lot of these A lot of these big law firms. 0:55:04.173 --> 0:55:06.533 The big law firms are very powerful. They do a 0:55:06.533 --> 0:55:09.653 lot of the highest level work for corporation. They do 0:55:09.693 --> 0:55:12.733 a lot of work with the government, decided to do 0:55:12.813 --> 0:55:15.773 something that was, you know, at the time, seemed like 0:55:15.813 --> 0:55:16.613 a good idea, which is. 0:55:16.613 --> 0:55:18.293 Get involved in politics. 0:55:19.413 --> 0:55:25.533 Well, their side lost, and Donald Trump is addressing a 0:55:25.573 --> 0:55:28.453 lot of the issues that they got away with for 0:55:28.493 --> 0:55:31.053 a long time, including civil rights stuff they were not 0:55:31.293 --> 0:55:34.533 you know, they were discriminating and hiring for instance. He's 0:55:34.573 --> 0:55:38.813 pressing them on that. He is taking security clearances away 0:55:38.893 --> 0:55:44.053 from folks who have some shenanigans, particular about the Russia 0:55:44.053 --> 0:55:46.853 Gates stuff. Trump is the guy who does not hesitate 0:55:46.893 --> 0:55:50.613 to use his power against his opponents. Democrats have never 0:55:50.653 --> 0:55:53.573 hesitated to do that. This is a new thing and 0:55:53.613 --> 0:55:56.573 a lot of these law firms are suddenly figuring out, Wait, 0:55:56.773 --> 0:55:57.813 maybe it was a bad. 0:55:57.693 --> 0:55:59.333 Bet to go in on one side. 0:56:00.453 --> 0:56:04.813 Folks who didn't get involved in politics aren't having a problem. 0:56:05.213 --> 0:56:09.613 Folks who chose to get in politics they're having a problem. 0:56:09.893 --> 0:56:12.853 Is this is this what I love to see? No, 0:56:13.613 --> 0:56:18.013 I was against this when they wanted to change the 0:56:18.133 --> 0:56:20.693 rules and start getting involved in politics. I thought it 0:56:20.733 --> 0:56:23.293 was a bad idea. I said you shouldn't do it. 0:56:23.333 --> 0:56:25.413 They said, no, we have a short term advantage. We're 0:56:25.413 --> 0:56:28.613 going to grab it and I said, don't be surprised 0:56:28.653 --> 0:56:31.653 if the new rules apply to you, and they're applying 0:56:33.253 --> 0:56:36.253 the only Look, I'm a big believer in mutually assured 0:56:36.293 --> 0:56:37.973 distruction and game theory. 0:56:38.453 --> 0:56:41.613 The only way you never win. 0:56:42.653 --> 0:56:47.293 By giving up and letting somebody's misconduct be rewarded, you 0:56:47.373 --> 0:56:50.893 make it so painful for them that they either change 0:56:50.933 --> 0:56:54.813 back to the old norms, which I would prefer, and 0:56:55.053 --> 0:56:57.653 if they don't, at least my enemy didn't get away 0:56:57.693 --> 0:56:58.013 with it. 0:56:58.333 --> 0:57:01.493 So two wrongs don't make it right. That's a line 0:57:01.533 --> 0:57:05.093 that somebody would would throw about a situation like this. 0:57:06.093 --> 0:57:09.453 The question is is it a wrong because it's the rule. 0:57:10.213 --> 0:57:12.973 If the rule is you can use your political power 0:57:12.973 --> 0:57:16.413 against your opponents, that's not a rule I want, But 0:57:16.493 --> 0:57:19.293 that's the rule that exists when I have different rules. 0:57:19.373 --> 0:57:20.813 Yeah, do I think it's a bad idea. 0:57:20.813 --> 0:57:23.653 I think in general it's a bad idea, But I 0:57:23.653 --> 0:57:25.493 think the unilateral disarmament's worse. 0:57:26.053 --> 0:57:27.373 I think it's I think it is. 0:57:28.013 --> 0:57:31.493 You know, you don't stick a bayonet in somebody's gut 0:57:32.373 --> 0:57:37.213 as a general rule, but sometimes it's say they're a 0:57:37.293 --> 0:57:40.933 Nazi and you're coming up a beach at Normandy. Yeah, 0:57:41.213 --> 0:57:44.613 you stick a baynn in somebody's gut. Sometimes you got 0:57:44.613 --> 0:57:47.613 to play hardball with folks. I didn't want this game. 0:57:48.373 --> 0:57:51.613 This wasn't my choice. I didn't pick the rule set, 0:57:51.973 --> 0:57:53.293 but I don't intend to lose. 0:57:53.453 --> 0:57:57.053 So what's the connection then, between what's what we're discussing 0:57:57.173 --> 0:57:58.093 and the Constitution. 0:57:59.133 --> 0:58:02.813 Well, first of all, dal Trump's not doing anything that 0:58:02.973 --> 0:58:07.893 I see that violates the Constitution. There are some some 0:58:07.973 --> 0:58:10.373 of the things he wants the schools to do to 0:58:10.413 --> 0:58:14.853 comply with the civil rights laws that exist and are constitutional. 0:58:17.013 --> 0:58:20.053 I think there are some good faith debates there about 0:58:20.453 --> 0:58:27.573 whether some of his demands are appropriate, particularly regarding some 0:58:27.653 --> 0:58:29.093 of the departments. 0:58:29.333 --> 0:58:32.333 But overall, overall. 0:58:31.973 --> 0:58:34.333 What he's doing is within the bounds of the Constitution. 0:58:34.453 --> 0:58:38.933 The Constitution is not like a foundational mad lib. I 0:58:38.973 --> 0:58:41.573 don't know if you have mad libs in New Zealand, 0:58:41.613 --> 0:58:43.533 but you kind of like fill in the blanks with 0:58:43.573 --> 0:58:44.933 whatever you want. 0:58:45.813 --> 0:58:47.213 The Constitution's not like that. 0:58:47.213 --> 0:58:51.093 The Constitution says specific things, it doesn't say. It doesn't 0:58:51.133 --> 0:58:54.013 mean whatever you think is best. It means what it means, 0:58:54.853 --> 0:58:58.453 and I think he is abiding by the Constitution. 0:58:58.573 --> 0:58:59.453 We did have one. 0:58:59.733 --> 0:59:02.453 Notable error where a guy with a order not to 0:59:02.493 --> 0:59:05.453 be removed Al Salvador. He was an alleged wife beater, 0:59:05.573 --> 0:59:08.253 if you believe his wife's testimony under penalty of burgery, 0:59:08.653 --> 0:59:11.373 who had been ordered removed after two or three hearings. 0:59:12.573 --> 0:59:14.653 He got Sentel Salvador. He wasn't supposed to go to 0:59:14.653 --> 0:59:16.933 El Salvador. He could have gone anywhere else because I'm. 0:59:16.733 --> 0:59:17.453 In to New Zealand. 0:59:17.973 --> 0:59:19.893 Not that you go on him. 0:59:20.213 --> 0:59:23.373 But that was a mistake, and there's a big fight 0:59:23.453 --> 0:59:27.893 going on over that, and the Supreme Court unanimously said, look, 0:59:28.253 --> 0:59:30.613 the guy's got to get some sort of doe process. 0:59:30.733 --> 0:59:34.653 Okay, all right, Well in a related case. 0:59:35.133 --> 0:59:40.213 So look, he's there's always constitutional arguments. 0:59:40.453 --> 0:59:41.333 I think you make. 0:59:41.173 --> 0:59:44.933 Those arguments, and if Trump's wrong, you know, you tell 0:59:44.973 --> 0:59:48.213 me he's wrong. If he's not wrong, then that's the 0:59:48.293 --> 0:59:50.493 power he has under our Article two. 0:59:50.733 --> 0:59:54.893 Okay, So who decides, Well, the first. 0:59:54.653 --> 0:59:57.693 Guy at his sight should be Trump in that he 0:59:57.733 --> 1:00:01.453 should not ask for things that are manifestly unconstitutional. 1:00:01.733 --> 1:00:03.053 And we've had a problem with that. 1:00:03.493 --> 1:00:08.173 We had Barack Obama and his executive branch, for instance, 1:00:08.813 --> 1:00:14.533 empower folks to censor speech by going to things like 1:00:14.573 --> 1:00:17.773 Facebook and stuff and saying silence this guy. Massive First 1:00:17.813 --> 1:00:21.293 Amendment violation. This is a huge issue. So the first 1:00:21.333 --> 1:00:25.333 thing you do is you honor your oaths. You never ask, 1:00:26.893 --> 1:00:29.333 you never allow your branch to do something that you 1:00:29.453 --> 1:00:32.893 believe is clearly unconstitutional. There are other things where you 1:00:32.893 --> 1:00:34.613 can have legitimate debates about it. 1:00:35.693 --> 1:00:38.213 That's where the courts come in. And the courts need to. 1:00:40.053 --> 1:00:44.533 Not reflexively vote in the way of the political party that. 1:00:46.813 --> 1:00:48.173 Nominated them to the post. 1:00:49.253 --> 1:00:52.813 They need to look at each issue individually, look at 1:00:52.813 --> 1:00:59.173 the existing law, apply common sense and the normal canons 1:00:59.173 --> 1:01:03.653 of judicial interpretation and come to a ruling, and then 1:01:03.653 --> 1:01:05.293 the Court of Appeal needs to do it. And then 1:01:05.293 --> 1:01:07.213 if it gets the Supreme Court, Supreme Court needs to 1:01:07.213 --> 1:01:10.893 do and if you do it fairly and you do 1:01:10.973 --> 1:01:16.493 it honestly, And a good test is, you know, did 1:01:16.493 --> 1:01:19.653 a liberal judge across the across the aisle of vote 1:01:19.653 --> 1:01:20.293 with conservatives? 1:01:20.293 --> 1:01:23.493 Did conservatives across the oud of vote with liberals. That's a. 1:01:25.813 --> 1:01:29.093 Good indicator that they're actually, you know, trying to think 1:01:29.173 --> 1:01:34.253 these things through rather than just voting on pure politics. 1:01:35.293 --> 1:01:38.413 The courts will be respected and you know, to have 1:01:38.573 --> 1:01:41.173 a democracy, and of course America is a republic. I know. 1:01:41.333 --> 1:01:43.733 I know that, but we'll call it a democracy because 1:01:43.733 --> 1:01:47.293 people do for shorthand if you're to have a democracy, 1:01:47.413 --> 1:01:52.613 you have to accept that you can lose. The key 1:01:52.653 --> 1:01:56.013 to democracy is not what you can do. It's how 1:01:56.013 --> 1:01:59.493 you react when you don't get your way. And if 1:01:59.493 --> 1:02:02.533 you think your country is legitimate. You know, at the 1:02:02.653 --> 1:02:04.893 end of the day, when you don't win on something, 1:02:05.093 --> 1:02:08.013 you say, look, I was heard. I had a fair 1:02:08.093 --> 1:02:11.933 chance to make my point. The people or the uh 1:02:12.733 --> 1:02:14.933 you know, the tools of the people where an article one, 1:02:15.053 --> 1:02:17.853 two or three looked at it and it came and 1:02:17.893 --> 1:02:21.613 it came to a decision. It's contrary, but I can 1:02:21.693 --> 1:02:25.493 accept that because I was heard and my voice was heard. 1:02:25.613 --> 1:02:28.493 And democracy is not a problem a promise I always 1:02:28.493 --> 1:02:31.133 get my way. It's a promise that we will have 1:02:31.253 --> 1:02:34.733 forms and structure to protect my right to participate in 1:02:34.773 --> 1:02:35.533 my own government. 1:02:35.973 --> 1:02:42.493 Talking of disagreements in the legal sphere, Letitia James, the 1:02:42.653 --> 1:02:45.373 New York Attorney General, I can only I can only 1:02:45.453 --> 1:02:48.773 say that it's it's a rarity to find such a 1:02:49.173 --> 1:02:53.333 nasty piece of work. But she ran her campaign when 1:02:53.493 --> 1:02:56.653 when she ran for the for the job on the 1:02:56.693 --> 1:03:00.893 back of loocking Trump up forever, and she lost that one. 1:03:01.693 --> 1:03:04.013 She tried the hardest, but she made it very difficult 1:03:04.093 --> 1:03:07.133 and still hangovers from it. It looks like she's that 1:03:07.213 --> 1:03:11.653 she's guilty of some corruption herself. Take it from there. 1:03:13.013 --> 1:03:18.213 Well, Letitia James essentially manufactured a civil suit against Donald 1:03:18.253 --> 1:03:25.133 Trump's companies involving loans and valuations of properties, and there 1:03:25.173 --> 1:03:28.053 was a trial from a judge who, frankly, to my view, 1:03:28.133 --> 1:03:29.013 seems biased. 1:03:29.053 --> 1:03:31.053 That's up on a he got hit for like four 1:03:31.093 --> 1:03:32.573 hundred million dollars. That is. 1:03:34.333 --> 1:03:36.693 Ridiculous in my view. It's up on appeal. I think 1:03:36.693 --> 1:03:37.853 he'll be thrown out on appeal. 1:03:38.053 --> 1:03:39.053 But you were correct. 1:03:39.173 --> 1:03:42.453 She ran on a platform of I'm going to find 1:03:42.533 --> 1:03:44.293 something to sue Donald Trump about. 1:03:44.533 --> 1:03:46.333 I mean, we talked about new rules. 1:03:46.853 --> 1:03:50.413 That's a really dumb new rule to have, particularly if 1:03:50.413 --> 1:03:53.813 you have problems with your own mortgage issues. It is 1:03:53.853 --> 1:03:59.573 a federal crime to lie on a mortgage application. There 1:03:59.733 --> 1:04:03.653 is evidence from others, and I'm all, this's allegations. 1:04:03.773 --> 1:04:04.973 She has a right to a trial. 1:04:05.013 --> 1:04:08.013 I'm not presuming she's guilty, but the allegations are that 1:04:08.053 --> 1:04:12.013 she lie in significant ways that saved her significant money 1:04:12.373 --> 1:04:17.493 multiple times and bizarrely, long after the Statue of Limitations, 1:04:17.573 --> 1:04:19.933 or long since long before the Statue of limitations, we've 1:04:20.013 --> 1:04:25.013 run she represents herself as being married to her father 1:04:25.613 --> 1:04:31.093 to get loans, which is just freakish. In any case, 1:04:31.813 --> 1:04:36.133 these are federal crimes. The Department of Justice is the 1:04:36.213 --> 1:04:39.493 news flash, is about ninety seven percent conviction rate. He 1:04:39.573 --> 1:04:42.373 usually doesn't take cases it's going to lose, I would 1:04:42.413 --> 1:04:46.573 expect because one of the houses was in Virginia, and 1:04:46.653 --> 1:04:49.333 a federal crime can be charged anywhere the crime was committed. 1:04:49.933 --> 1:04:53.493 While she's a New Yorker, I think there is a 1:04:53.613 --> 1:04:58.373 decent chance. Maybe they do the Northern District. I don't 1:04:58.413 --> 1:05:00.533 know if yeah, I think Northern District of New York 1:05:00.933 --> 1:05:03.053 or the Eastern District of Virginia. They're not gonna do 1:05:03.093 --> 1:05:06.053 this Southern District of New York, which is New York City. 1:05:08.413 --> 1:05:10.973 But you go, the Department of Justice will find a 1:05:11.013 --> 1:05:14.173 favorable venue, a favorable place where they think they have 1:05:14.213 --> 1:05:17.493 a good jury pool that would be disinclined to have 1:05:17.533 --> 1:05:19.893 sympathy for her, and they're going to charge her with 1:05:20.013 --> 1:05:24.373 multiple felonies. Charger with mail fraud, wire fraud, various types 1:05:24.413 --> 1:05:27.293 of fraud, and of course, mortgage fraud, and she could 1:05:27.333 --> 1:05:29.613 go to jail for years, and politicians have gone to 1:05:29.653 --> 1:05:33.333 jail for years, And I just think it's you know, 1:05:33.453 --> 1:05:36.453 if you're gonna go after a guy who's president for 1:05:36.573 --> 1:05:39.893 some sort of loan shenanigans, you better make sure your 1:05:40.173 --> 1:05:43.733 loans are perfect down to the tee. You better have 1:05:43.813 --> 1:05:48.093 your accountants go over them three or four times each. Okay, 1:05:50.053 --> 1:05:54.533 she's not a smart lady, but I think this was arrogance. 1:05:54.613 --> 1:05:58.253 I think when she decided that the new rule would 1:05:58.253 --> 1:06:00.093 be I'm going to use the power of my political 1:06:00.093 --> 1:06:04.093 office solely to go an attempt to punish by creating 1:06:04.173 --> 1:06:07.653 and she did create these charges against Trump. They are 1:06:07.773 --> 1:06:10.173 ridiculous ever bred brought against Aby before. 1:06:10.373 --> 1:06:11.973 Like I said, they'll be thrown out on appeal. 1:06:12.853 --> 1:06:16.933 Uh you know, you you need to understand that those 1:06:17.013 --> 1:06:18.333 rules are going to get applied to you. 1:06:18.453 --> 1:06:22.053 And apparently some group went out got her. 1:06:21.973 --> 1:06:24.173 Stuff, took a look at it and said, hey, wait 1:06:24.253 --> 1:06:29.813 a minute, she's lied, and uh uh, it's now been 1:06:29.853 --> 1:06:32.293 referred to the Department of Justice. And I expect she'll 1:06:32.333 --> 1:06:34.613 be charged, and I expect you'll be convicted, and I 1:06:34.653 --> 1:06:35.173 expect she. 1:06:35.133 --> 1:06:37.893 Will go to jail couldn't happen to a NASA woman. 1:06:38.773 --> 1:06:43.133 Hey, you know, if you don't want none, don't start 1:06:43.253 --> 1:06:46.453 None is the uh is the expression? 1:06:48.253 --> 1:06:48.453 You know? 1:06:48.533 --> 1:06:50.853 If she just said, Hey, if Donald Trump does something wrong, 1:06:50.893 --> 1:06:51.813 I'll prosecute him. 1:06:52.093 --> 1:06:53.933 And if he doesn't do anything wrong, I. 1:06:53.853 --> 1:06:57.853 Won't everybody go oh okay, but no, no, she had 1:06:57.853 --> 1:06:59.493 to make that the therapiece of her campaign. 1:07:00.213 --> 1:07:02.973 Oh well, but is that hoisted on your note her 1:07:02.973 --> 1:07:03.773 own petard? 1:07:04.293 --> 1:07:07.173 As they say, as they say, I just want to 1:07:07.173 --> 1:07:13.453 touch finally on Iran. I watched I watched Jack Keen 1:07:13.733 --> 1:07:18.653 on television yesterday, the general retired general talking about the 1:07:19.573 --> 1:07:23.133 nuclear talks with Iran, which seemed to be seemed to 1:07:23.173 --> 1:07:26.533 be underway at some level between America and Iran. What 1:07:26.693 --> 1:07:30.093 chance do you think? Oh? By the way, Keen had 1:07:30.133 --> 1:07:33.813 no hesitation in saying that he thought that the Iranians 1:07:33.853 --> 1:07:35.893 were lying through their teeth and that they wouldn't fulfill 1:07:35.933 --> 1:07:39.293 the promises that were the deal that they were discussing. 1:07:40.173 --> 1:07:45.533 What chance would you put on a serious fighting war 1:07:45.613 --> 1:07:46.333 with Iran? 1:07:47.613 --> 1:07:50.893 Well, it wouldn't really be a war with Iran. It 1:07:50.893 --> 1:07:54.213 would be a very one sided things. Remember, in the 1:07:54.253 --> 1:07:56.493 conservative movement there were a lot of people who were 1:07:56.493 --> 1:08:00.693 burned very very heavily about the War on Terror, and 1:08:00.773 --> 1:08:03.093 they saw it mishandled. They saw a lot of Americans 1:08:03.133 --> 1:08:07.133 and Allies killed and named without a strategy, without a plan. 1:08:08.613 --> 1:08:13.893 And you know, there is an anti war strain through 1:08:14.213 --> 1:08:19.013 the conservative American the Republican Party, largely because it's mostly 1:08:19.133 --> 1:08:22.213 Republicans who go fight right, you know. You know, there 1:08:22.253 --> 1:08:24.493 are not a lot of not a lot of liberal 1:08:24.533 --> 1:08:27.693 Democrats from you know, Harvard and Princeton out there on 1:08:27.733 --> 1:08:31.653 the front lines. I was until I became a reservist, 1:08:31.693 --> 1:08:35.373 where all the senior officers are fairly successful businessmen. I 1:08:35.693 --> 1:08:38.333 probably I came from a normal suburban family, as my 1:08:38.373 --> 1:08:38.893 mom was a. 1:08:38.893 --> 1:08:40.933 Judge, so maybe I wasn't that normal. 1:08:40.973 --> 1:08:44.613 But I was always one of the more affluent guys 1:08:44.613 --> 1:08:48.333 in the that I knew, and it was my guys 1:08:48.333 --> 1:08:50.773 who paid the price. So there's there's an anti war thing. 1:08:51.333 --> 1:08:55.333 But that said, Iran took our hostages in nineteen seventy nine. 1:08:55.373 --> 1:08:58.693 We lost eight guys at Desert One trying to rescue them. 1:08:59.173 --> 1:09:06.373 They killed hundreds of Americans in Beirut bombings. They killed hundreds, 1:09:06.413 --> 1:09:09.933 maybe thousands of Americans in their way, and my feeling 1:09:09.973 --> 1:09:13.933 about the Mulas is they all have to die, you 1:09:13.973 --> 1:09:16.973 know they we taught. I mentioned people think about the Romans. 1:09:17.053 --> 1:09:17.653 I do too. 1:09:18.213 --> 1:09:21.093 The Romans didn't tolerate that stuff. I don't see why 1:09:21.133 --> 1:09:24.853 Americans should. If you kill Americans, you need to die. 1:09:25.573 --> 1:09:29.533 They cannot get nuclear weapons, they will use them, and 1:09:29.573 --> 1:09:32.013 that has to be stought. So my choice, and it 1:09:32.053 --> 1:09:34.973 is not the choice to some of my friends. For instance, 1:09:35.053 --> 1:09:39.613 Jad Dance is reputed to be very against it. 1:09:40.453 --> 1:09:41.013 We don't know. 1:09:41.773 --> 1:09:46.253 Pete haggs Backs, who I support, is rumored to be 1:09:46.293 --> 1:09:48.293 against it. I don't know what counsel is given the president. 1:09:48.573 --> 1:09:51.293 Guys like Tucker Carlson, who I've met and I respect 1:09:51.333 --> 1:09:54.413 a lot. Though I disagree with them about some things, 1:09:54.413 --> 1:09:57.613 I disagree with them about this too. I am all 1:09:57.613 --> 1:10:02.973 forgetting with Israel and conducting a comprehensive campaign to completely 1:10:03.053 --> 1:10:07.893 annihilate both the nuclear weapons capability of the Iranians and 1:10:07.973 --> 1:10:09.373 Thera leadership. 1:10:09.973 --> 1:10:11.653 I would kill all the mall as I could. 1:10:11.893 --> 1:10:15.493 I would wipe out their Republican guard and their security 1:10:15.493 --> 1:10:20.293 apparatus to the Persian people can throw these semi humans dictators, 1:10:20.813 --> 1:10:23.693 yoke off their back and become the great and prosperous 1:10:23.733 --> 1:10:27.373 people they should be. The United States, particularly Los Angeles, 1:10:27.413 --> 1:10:30.733 has benefited greatly by the number of Persians who escaped 1:10:30.773 --> 1:10:33.733 and came over. And these are wonderful people who deserve 1:10:33.813 --> 1:10:37.013 to be free, and I think we should help them. 1:10:37.053 --> 1:10:38.653 But we need to take out there. 1:10:40.933 --> 1:10:44.213 We need to take out their capacity to create nuclear 1:10:44.253 --> 1:10:47.733 weapons and do ballistic missiles and pay them back for 1:10:47.853 --> 1:10:48.853 murdering Americans. 1:10:49.093 --> 1:10:51.613 It's important to set a marker. If you kill an. 1:10:51.493 --> 1:10:54.893 American, just you know, make sure your affairs in order, 1:10:54.893 --> 1:10:56.933 because we're going to get you, and we're going to 1:10:56.973 --> 1:10:58.853 get everybody around you. So you might want to send 1:10:58.893 --> 1:11:02.573 the family off somewhere else. And I have I make 1:11:02.693 --> 1:11:06.973 no bones about that. This is a you know you, 1:11:07.773 --> 1:11:09.733 if you're going to fight, you need to be serious. 1:11:09.813 --> 1:11:16.413 That's the hallmark of Jacksonian foreign policy. Get in there 1:11:16.733 --> 1:11:21.133 and win hard so that they never even dream of 1:11:21.213 --> 1:11:24.693 messing with you again. A good example is Japan, where 1:11:24.693 --> 1:11:29.413 both both my grandparents were on navy ships in the 1:11:29.413 --> 1:11:30.493 Pacific when. 1:11:30.533 --> 1:11:31.373 That war ended. 1:11:32.013 --> 1:11:35.173 I right now, we have a correlation of forces over there. 1:11:35.173 --> 1:11:37.533 We have b two bombers in position, we have two 1:11:37.613 --> 1:11:41.093 carrier task forces, and this is all public information. I'm 1:11:41.093 --> 1:11:44.253 not giving you anything secret therapalistic missile subs or cruise 1:11:44.253 --> 1:11:48.933 missile subs, and the Israelis are ready to go. I say, 1:11:49.213 --> 1:11:52.413 wipe out, wipe it out, get it done. That that 1:11:52.453 --> 1:11:54.773 would be my vote. And if I was advising the president, 1:11:54.853 --> 1:11:58.453 that's why i'd say. Of course, I'm not the president. 1:11:58.613 --> 1:12:01.773 I didn't win an election. The trust isn't in me. 1:12:02.133 --> 1:12:05.933 All I can do is give my best best advice 1:12:06.053 --> 1:12:08.293 if asked, and that would be my best advice. 1:12:08.453 --> 1:12:10.653 Is well, I have to say, you've given us a 1:12:10.693 --> 1:12:15.093 very good advice at opinion over the last eighty minutes, 1:12:15.693 --> 1:12:19.533 and it's been most enjoyable. I thank you, and I 1:12:19.613 --> 1:12:21.573 invite you to return at some stage. 1:12:22.613 --> 1:12:26.773 I would be happy to return anytime. I've really enjoyed it. 1:12:26.893 --> 1:12:32.973 You man, you know, if you're representative of the kind 1:12:33.013 --> 1:12:36.773 of level of a discourse that New Zealand has, congratulations 1:12:36.773 --> 1:12:40.213 because that's that's that's sure impressive, because I think we've 1:12:40.213 --> 1:12:41.853 talked about some important things. 1:12:42.093 --> 1:13:03.213 Thank you, good, thank you. Here we are for a 1:13:03.293 --> 1:13:06.613 podcast two hundred and eighty one in the mailroom, missus producer. 1:13:07.013 --> 1:13:09.253 Are you comfortable, I'm great. 1:13:09.173 --> 1:13:10.053 Well comfortable. 1:13:10.133 --> 1:13:13.373 I'm sitting on a very hard chair, same chair you 1:13:13.373 --> 1:13:15.813 sit on every weekend. Never complained this week It's hard. 1:13:15.853 --> 1:13:18.973 I don't know why. Okay, let me lead, if you 1:13:19.013 --> 1:13:25.333 don't mind. On this occasion from Gatherine, salutations lately, after 1:13:25.333 --> 1:13:29.293 all these years, a number one fan of your ZEBB 1:13:29.453 --> 1:13:33.213 nine to twelve show makes contact. I loved those days 1:13:33.413 --> 1:13:37.213 when they were never complete without hearing your latest renderings 1:13:37.253 --> 1:13:39.693 on the news of the moment. I went into a 1:13:39.693 --> 1:13:42.693 state of complete decline for a significant time after you 1:13:42.773 --> 1:13:46.333 retired from that position. I always felt missus producer led 1:13:46.373 --> 1:13:51.173 you to consider new perspectives on life. There was hope. 1:13:52.013 --> 1:13:55.893 So when I went through a period of disillusionment at 1:13:55.933 --> 1:14:00.333 your seeming to be stuck in the old paradigm, when 1:14:00.373 --> 1:14:02.813 there seemed to be no recognition at the beginning of 1:14:02.933 --> 1:14:05.733 twenty twenty of the propaganda that we were being fed, 1:14:06.213 --> 1:14:10.133 when we were being assaulted from every quarter, I had 1:14:10.173 --> 1:14:13.013 to turn to the US and UK for my updates 1:14:13.013 --> 1:14:16.293 and information. Then I noticed your more recent guest list 1:14:16.373 --> 1:14:19.453 and began listening again, and my faith in your judgment 1:14:19.493 --> 1:14:23.653 has returned. It is so so wonderful to see because 1:14:23.853 --> 1:14:28.053 you are and have always previously been an important truth 1:14:28.173 --> 1:14:31.413 slash fact teller. I take that as a compliment I 1:14:31.453 --> 1:14:33.493 would if I were you in terms of the whole 1:14:33.533 --> 1:14:36.853 COVID debarcle. I do understand that my advantage has been 1:14:37.013 --> 1:14:42.533 a background as an nz RM and midwife, had a 1:14:42.613 --> 1:14:45.493 keen interest in what was to become a nightmare of 1:14:45.533 --> 1:14:48.653 a time to look back on, but also realizing that 1:14:48.693 --> 1:14:53.333 the repercussions are ongoing and still very current with the 1:14:53.373 --> 1:14:57.813 health crisis that we are now experiencing turbo cancers, myocarditis, 1:14:58.093 --> 1:15:02.653 in Barmer's clots, autoimmune issues, to name just a few. 1:15:03.013 --> 1:15:07.573 I was deeply suspicious early on that the mRNA biowarfare 1:15:07.613 --> 1:15:13.013 population control therapy should not be used, let alone mandated. 1:15:13.693 --> 1:15:17.533 I agree it would have been acceptable to target vulnerable 1:15:17.573 --> 1:15:20.773 groups and to use it for them, especially at the 1:15:20.773 --> 1:15:24.213 beginning when there were so many unknown factors to consider. 1:15:24.333 --> 1:15:27.733 Doctor Robert Malone and doctor Peter mccullor and doctor Pier 1:15:27.853 --> 1:15:31.613 Corey with voices I heard early on, the authorities did 1:15:31.653 --> 1:15:37.333 all sorts of things pre twenty twenty in preparing or 1:15:37.373 --> 1:15:41.493 in preparation for their plan. This included changing the definition 1:15:41.773 --> 1:15:46.213 of the word vaccine to incorporate this new and poorly 1:15:46.293 --> 1:15:51.133 tested platform, mRNA. This product should be called genetic therapy. 1:15:51.733 --> 1:15:56.813 Many people still do not understand this. And as she writes, 1:15:57.533 --> 1:16:00.693 a whole lot more in bullet points so it doesn't 1:16:00.733 --> 1:16:03.413 become too long and winded. And here's the first one 1:16:03.453 --> 1:16:06.533 or two. And there are so many truth tellers now 1:16:06.733 --> 1:16:10.613 in independent media into and people are starting to wake up. 1:16:10.653 --> 1:16:13.933 Podcasts are such a great medium, and I enjoy being 1:16:13.973 --> 1:16:16.573 able to hear exactly what is said, but also to 1:16:16.613 --> 1:16:19.813 watch the body language. Well, let's if you've got podcasts 1:16:19.813 --> 1:16:22.573 with pictures, which they were never meant to me. Podcasts 1:16:22.573 --> 1:16:26.453 originally were audio, and so we stay with the tradition. 1:16:26.773 --> 1:16:30.213 Maybe missus producer can talk me around as something. Secondly, 1:16:30.733 --> 1:16:34.413 mainstream media, both here and internationally, is over and I 1:16:34.453 --> 1:16:37.213 find it impossible to stomach their lives and half truths 1:16:37.213 --> 1:16:40.893 on politics and to watch and know what mouthpieces they 1:16:40.973 --> 1:16:46.053 are specifically for the left wing political parties, or maybe 1:16:46.053 --> 1:16:47.933 that should be that they are for the left wing 1:16:47.933 --> 1:16:51.213 political parties. TV and Z and The Herald have not improved, 1:16:51.213 --> 1:16:54.453 and every mention of President Trump is still negative as 1:16:54.493 --> 1:16:58.253 it has been since twenty sixteen. I do still have 1:16:58.373 --> 1:17:02.253 a brief daily update from my Fox favorite hosts, and 1:17:02.293 --> 1:17:04.333 to keep up with the current state of play, but 1:17:04.453 --> 1:17:07.853 don't hang on their every word. We will leave politics 1:17:07.893 --> 1:17:11.413 there and stay with COVID, and she makes mention of 1:17:11.493 --> 1:17:13.973 Guy Hatchett, who was right on the money. 1:17:15.013 --> 1:17:17.853 Laden Jin says, I always thought that New Zealand politics 1:17:17.933 --> 1:17:22.053 was boring compared to American politics. A Luxe and Hipkins 1:17:22.173 --> 1:17:26.293 debate pales into comparison to a Trump Biden debate. Recently, 1:17:26.333 --> 1:17:28.813 I was on a family holiday and Australia and I 1:17:28.933 --> 1:17:32.493 turned into a leader's debate between Albanese and Dutton just 1:17:32.533 --> 1:17:35.133 to get a feel of what the Australian political landscape 1:17:35.173 --> 1:17:38.333 was like. And boy, to my surprise, I found that 1:17:38.373 --> 1:17:41.813 Australian politics was even more boring than New Zealand politics. 1:17:42.373 --> 1:17:46.493 Both Albow and Dutton struggled to articulate any inspiring vision. 1:17:46.933 --> 1:17:50.013 As Nick Kata said in Your podcast, we knew Obama 1:17:50.013 --> 1:17:53.453 clearly stood for woke, while Trump stood for anti woke. 1:17:53.813 --> 1:17:56.013 With Albo and Dutten, I had no idea which either 1:17:56.053 --> 1:18:00.333 of them really stood for in their debate. Quadrant Magazine's 1:18:00.533 --> 1:18:03.853 Peter Smith gave a pretty good explanation in his short 1:18:03.973 --> 1:18:09.173 article The Dripping wet alternative. He said Labour offers a 1:18:09.253 --> 1:18:13.093 road to ruin and the Libs and Gnats seemingly same roads, 1:18:13.133 --> 1:18:16.853 lower speed. He gave a long list of Albanesi's failures 1:18:16.893 --> 1:18:20.973 and provided a reason why Albo might still prevail despite 1:18:21.053 --> 1:18:26.373 leading the most inact government in recent history. Concluded by saying, 1:18:27.173 --> 1:18:30.013 essentially it comes down to the absence of an opposition 1:18:30.133 --> 1:18:34.173 party with conviction and courage. The Libs Wet through and 1:18:34.213 --> 1:18:39.493 through inspire very few. It's time to start inspiring. Dutton 1:18:39.573 --> 1:18:42.413 needs to inspire Australians or he will leave Australians with 1:18:42.533 --> 1:18:46.813 a Labour Greens government. The twenty twenty five Australian election 1:18:46.933 --> 1:18:50.333 will prove whether the Ossies have learned anything from their 1:18:50.453 --> 1:18:54.573 Kiwi neighbors our greatest mistake of electing a Labour Greens government, 1:18:54.693 --> 1:18:57.773 which ushered in six years of national pain. 1:18:59.413 --> 1:19:03.213 The aforementioned Peter Smith is an expat by the way, 1:19:03.693 --> 1:19:07.573 I think comes from the Hawks Bay region, but I 1:19:07.613 --> 1:19:10.813 could be wrong. It's onny a loose memory that tells 1:19:10.853 --> 1:19:16.453 me that okay from Gerald. My wife is presently reclaiming 1:19:16.493 --> 1:19:19.613 our office room at home after many years of it 1:19:19.693 --> 1:19:22.173 becoming a storage place for nothing. We need. 1:19:23.653 --> 1:19:23.933 Later. 1:19:24.333 --> 1:19:28.813 Hello, that sounds just like you. Look around and tell 1:19:28.853 --> 1:19:31.333 me what there is here that is not needed. 1:19:31.653 --> 1:19:34.653 Don't get me started, not in this room. Oh you 1:19:34.773 --> 1:19:36.413 don't even get me started. 1:19:36.493 --> 1:19:41.333 You couldn't whilst filling our recycling bin with what now 1:19:41.453 --> 1:19:45.853 is unwanted paperwork? Is she noticed with interest promises written 1:19:46.053 --> 1:19:49.253 twenty years ago by the National Party. Initially we found 1:19:49.253 --> 1:19:53.973 the words amusing. However, within minutes I became frustrated, then 1:19:54.013 --> 1:19:58.533 annoyed that our society is still fighting the same issues today. 1:19:59.013 --> 1:20:03.693 I'm sure similar frustrations have already been aired. However, wish 1:20:03.813 --> 1:20:07.213 to share our findings with you, if only to start 1:20:07.213 --> 1:20:10.693 a conversation with your listeners as to why obvious failing 1:20:10.813 --> 1:20:14.533 standards are continuing to be our country's biggest challenge. I 1:20:14.573 --> 1:20:17.293 look forward to any feedback, if any, to my question. 1:20:17.573 --> 1:20:19.973 Or is it going to be easier to ask Trump 1:20:20.533 --> 1:20:23.293 to consider New Zealand as their fifty first state instead 1:20:23.293 --> 1:20:26.293 of Canada? And by the way, I so enjoy your 1:20:26.293 --> 1:20:30.573 interviews and commentary, Hence I have been for some time 1:20:30.653 --> 1:20:34.973 now an enthusiastic advocate for your podcast. Keep it up. 1:20:35.093 --> 1:20:38.053 Best wishes, Gerald from the NAKI. 1:20:38.853 --> 1:20:41.653 Leighton David says, I've just finished listening to your episode 1:20:41.653 --> 1:20:44.213 two eighty and I'm communicating with you about the study 1:20:44.293 --> 1:20:48.053 on the intelligence of vaccine adherents. Both my older brothers 1:20:48.093 --> 1:20:51.133 made the decision to get vaccinated for COVID. Both have 1:20:51.253 --> 1:20:53.773 done well in their lives. The oldest was ducks of 1:20:53.853 --> 1:20:56.093 his high school and came top in his years at 1:20:56.133 --> 1:21:00.293 Forestry School at Canterbury University. He has had multiple jabs, 1:21:00.293 --> 1:21:03.773 five or six and isn't quite sure. The second, as 1:21:03.813 --> 1:21:06.893 an embsc in computer science, has worked in various parts 1:21:06.933 --> 1:21:11.133 of the world undertaking time for companies using software. He wrote, 1:21:11.253 --> 1:21:14.013 he has had at least two jabs. Both are retired 1:21:14.053 --> 1:21:17.933 and live a very comfortable life regardless of doses. This 1:21:18.093 --> 1:21:21.933 spares out the research by Ofir and scharraz I warned 1:21:21.933 --> 1:21:23.613 them not to take the jab where it could have 1:21:23.733 --> 1:21:26.333 serious consequences, but what would I know. I'm only a 1:21:26.373 --> 1:21:31.013 conspiracy theorist. Big Farmer have captured many, many people. The 1:21:31.053 --> 1:21:34.053 aforementioned brothers chose to hand over their health to buy 1:21:34.053 --> 1:21:38.653 and large incompetent doctors and corrupt corporations rather than investigate 1:21:38.733 --> 1:21:42.853 and make lifestyle changes. Tis a funny thing, this intelligence. 1:21:43.493 --> 1:21:48.173 It's from David. David interesting. I like hearing family stories 1:21:48.213 --> 1:21:48.373 like that. 1:21:48.813 --> 1:21:51.213 I've just had my second shingles chab yesterday. 1:21:51.693 --> 1:21:52.493 Did you enjoy it? 1:21:52.893 --> 1:21:56.653 I did not enjoy it. Actually, I think I reacted 1:21:56.693 --> 1:21:59.893 a little bit to both of them. But I'm quite 1:21:59.933 --> 1:22:03.293 happy that I've had that you are, And in fact, 1:22:03.333 --> 1:22:05.733 I only read this morning that there is new research 1:22:05.853 --> 1:22:10.893 that reckons that an unan tended consequence of that particular 1:22:11.293 --> 1:22:15.573 vaccination could be a relatively good resistance to dementia. 1:22:15.613 --> 1:22:16.173 They reckon. 1:22:16.253 --> 1:22:19.813 Now anyway, it's done. It's in my arm, which is 1:22:19.893 --> 1:22:22.493 throbbing like crazy, even after eighteen hours. 1:22:23.853 --> 1:22:28.493 Just going back to the Naki because what I didn't 1:22:28.533 --> 1:22:32.853 do was refer to what he'd actually he said a 1:22:32.853 --> 1:22:36.653 picture of one of the things that they've been that 1:22:36.733 --> 1:22:40.933 they found reading. And it's a bit difficult in the 1:22:41.333 --> 1:22:46.253 reproduced form. But National is in the process of formulating policies. 1:22:46.733 --> 1:22:50.573 As you will be aware, we have pledged an end 1:22:50.613 --> 1:22:54.053 to race based policies and to get tough on crime. 1:22:54.933 --> 1:22:58.333 There will be no backtracking on our commitment to ensure 1:22:58.373 --> 1:23:01.813 that all New Zealanders, regardless of race, treated equally under 1:23:01.853 --> 1:23:05.773 the law. We will end the race based absurdities and 1:23:05.853 --> 1:23:10.093 political correctness which will otherwise condemned this country to a 1:23:10.173 --> 1:23:13.613 Pacific backwater. But we need to address issues in education 1:23:14.133 --> 1:23:17.453 that means that many of our youngsters leave school unable 1:23:17.493 --> 1:23:21.893 to read and write properly and undertake basic mathematics. We 1:23:21.973 --> 1:23:26.973 have urgent demands for new roads, but politically correct legislation, 1:23:27.213 --> 1:23:30.573 thanks to Labor and the Greens, stops the bulldozers from 1:23:30.733 --> 1:23:34.173 being started. Our streets in many areas are unsafe, and 1:23:34.213 --> 1:23:37.053 police do not have the resources to respond quickly to burgeries. 1:23:37.853 --> 1:23:40.613 And it goes on. I just thought a bit about 1:23:40.653 --> 1:23:45.173 our streets are unsafe after that murder that took place 1:23:45.413 --> 1:23:52.013 in Saint John's a few days ago. So finally from Jered. 1:23:52.573 --> 1:23:55.693 It was Gerald previously. This is Jered late and as 1:23:55.693 --> 1:23:58.173 you will read, I started as email after hearing your 1:23:58.213 --> 1:24:01.453 podcast with Muriel Newman. Once I started, I kept coming 1:24:01.493 --> 1:24:04.933 back to it with more thoughts, ideas and suggestions. I 1:24:04.933 --> 1:24:08.093 would like to think that you will find them interesting, 1:24:08.573 --> 1:24:11.213 although you may not agree with them all or any 1:24:11.253 --> 1:24:13.653 of them. I've been meaning to drop you a line 1:24:13.653 --> 1:24:16.253 for quite a while now, but listening to your not 1:24:16.293 --> 1:24:19.613 so recent interview with Muriel Newman has prompted me to 1:24:19.293 --> 1:24:23.053 get on with it and strike while the iron is hot. 1:24:23.333 --> 1:24:26.413 Chris Luxen and National are sticking to their knitting and 1:24:26.613 --> 1:24:29.133 think that if they get the economy back on track, 1:24:29.253 --> 1:24:31.893 then they'll be voted in for a second term. Wrong, 1:24:32.013 --> 1:24:35.173 says Gered. They're not addressing the one issue that concerns 1:24:35.253 --> 1:24:38.133 most New Zealand is over thirty with IQs that actually 1:24:38.133 --> 1:24:42.013 reach double digits, the Treaty of Waitangi and all its encumbrances. 1:24:42.653 --> 1:24:45.853 Neither have they learnt from Comrades Clark and a Dern. 1:24:46.493 --> 1:24:49.853 Those two put all the unpopular laws, rules and regulations 1:24:49.853 --> 1:24:52.333 and bills into play as soon as they were in power. 1:24:52.653 --> 1:24:54.733 It gave the voters three years or so to accept 1:24:54.853 --> 1:24:57.453 or forget about them. I'm in my early seventies and 1:24:57.573 --> 1:25:01.053 was born into a socialist country post World War II. 1:25:01.573 --> 1:25:04.493 The country was relatively isolated from the rest of the world, 1:25:04.533 --> 1:25:09.253 and we the citizens were insulated or detected from all 1:25:09.293 --> 1:25:12.453 the negatives experienced by other countries in the world, especially 1:25:12.533 --> 1:25:17.293 Europe and the devastation experienced there during the war. My 1:25:17.453 --> 1:25:20.613 country was rock solid, no overseas debt, very little crime. 1:25:20.733 --> 1:25:22.773 No one needed to lock doors. We slept with the 1:25:22.773 --> 1:25:26.693 windows open. Mainly in houses that would today be considered 1:25:27.093 --> 1:25:31.413 very low standard, if not condemned. Men worked, women stayed home, 1:25:31.493 --> 1:25:34.173 looking after the house and brought up the children. Divorce 1:25:34.253 --> 1:25:36.573 was difficult to get and people were brought up to 1:25:36.613 --> 1:25:40.373 make the right choice of partner, as it was generally 1:25:40.453 --> 1:25:44.693 accepted that marriage was for a lifetime. Christianity in all 1:25:44.693 --> 1:25:47.493 its forms, were the country's religion, but that didn't stop 1:25:47.533 --> 1:25:52.733 atheists from practicing their calling. Respect was throughout society. Schools 1:25:52.773 --> 1:25:56.213 existed to educate children and were non political. We voted 1:25:56.213 --> 1:25:58.573 in the government and just trusted them to get on 1:25:58.653 --> 1:26:01.613 with the job. If we didn't like them, they paid 1:26:01.613 --> 1:26:05.173 the price. Three years later. Politics were stable as it 1:26:05.293 --> 1:26:10.013 was a first past The post system was paramount. I 1:26:10.053 --> 1:26:13.053 seem to remember something along those lines. The final settlement 1:26:13.093 --> 1:26:16.293 of the Treaty of the Treaty was paid to the 1:26:16.333 --> 1:26:19.933 Mary Queen in I think nineteen thirty eight, and it 1:26:20.093 --> 1:26:23.573 was the princely sum of over eight hundred thousand pounds. 1:26:23.813 --> 1:26:26.933 The media was politically neutral and its functions were to 1:26:26.973 --> 1:26:29.853 tell the truth, give a balanced story, and protect the 1:26:29.933 --> 1:26:34.493 English language. The country's second main religion was rugby, and 1:26:34.573 --> 1:26:37.973 when the All Blacks played the only conversation for the 1:26:38.013 --> 1:26:41.293 week before was the coming game, and he goes on 1:26:41.533 --> 1:26:47.733 for some considerable length and it runs into twenty pages. 1:26:49.693 --> 1:26:53.653 I only printed the first four wow, twenty pages, but 1:26:53.733 --> 1:26:56.453 it was a good effort, Jared, and I'm going to 1:26:56.533 --> 1:26:59.333 keep those twenty pages. I have already filed them, but 1:26:59.773 --> 1:27:02.973 I might refer to them from time to time. So 1:27:03.053 --> 1:27:06.253 thank you, missus, producer, thank you latent. Thanks you may depart, 1:27:06.333 --> 1:27:23.013 I shall and see you next week. You will. So 1:27:23.093 --> 1:27:26.733 it's not for any particular religious reason that I'm going 1:27:26.773 --> 1:27:31.293 to quote what is coming. It's more for the geopolitical 1:27:31.613 --> 1:27:35.693 aspects of the papacy, and it needs to be recognized 1:27:35.733 --> 1:27:39.613 that the Papacy of the Vatican has a geopolitical role 1:27:39.653 --> 1:27:43.853 that it plays rightly or wrongly. I was tempted to 1:27:44.053 --> 1:27:49.293 quote from Paul Williams book Operation Gladio, the Unholy Alliance 1:27:49.333 --> 1:27:52.693 between the Vatican and the Cia and the Mafia. However, 1:27:53.573 --> 1:27:57.893 this is appropriate because of the death of Pope Francis 1:27:58.293 --> 1:28:01.733 and where the papacy goes from here. So it's a 1:28:01.813 --> 1:28:05.533 letter of the Holy Father Francis to the bishops of 1:28:05.573 --> 1:28:08.573 the United States of America, and it was written on 1:28:08.893 --> 1:28:13.173 February ten of this year, Dear brothers of the Episcopate, 1:28:13.413 --> 1:28:16.133 I'm writing today to address a few words to you 1:28:16.373 --> 1:28:19.933 in these delicate moments that you're living as pastors of 1:28:19.973 --> 1:28:22.493 the people of God who walk together in the United 1:28:22.533 --> 1:28:27.613 States of America. And then follows ten points. The journey 1:28:27.613 --> 1:28:30.533 from slavery to freedom that the people of Israel traveled, 1:28:30.573 --> 1:28:33.253 as narrated in the Book of Exodus, invites us to 1:28:33.293 --> 1:28:37.013 look at the reality of our time so clearly marked 1:28:37.053 --> 1:28:41.213 by the phenomenon of migration, as a decisive moment in 1:28:41.333 --> 1:28:45.213 history to reaffirm not only are faith in a God 1:28:45.253 --> 1:28:52.013 who is always close incarnate, migrant and refugee, but also 1:28:52.173 --> 1:28:56.733 the infinite and transcendent dignity of every human person. Now, 1:28:56.733 --> 1:28:59.853 I can't guarantee the accuracy of some of the writing, 1:29:00.173 --> 1:29:04.013 but I present it as it's written. Point two. These 1:29:04.053 --> 1:29:07.613 words with which I begin are not an artificial construct. 1:29:08.333 --> 1:29:12.133 Even a cursory examination of the Church's social doctrine emphatically 1:29:12.213 --> 1:29:16.373 shows that Jesus Christ is the true Immanuel and refers 1:29:16.413 --> 1:29:20.253 to Matthew one twenty three. He did not live apart 1:29:20.333 --> 1:29:23.373 from the difficult experience of being expelled from his own 1:29:23.453 --> 1:29:26.893 land because of an imminent risk to his life, and 1:29:26.973 --> 1:29:29.253 from the experience of having to take refuge in a 1:29:29.293 --> 1:29:32.813 society of the culture foreign to his own. The Son 1:29:32.853 --> 1:29:36.533 of God, in becoming man, also chose to live the 1:29:36.653 --> 1:29:40.493 drama of immigration. I like to recall, among other things, 1:29:40.533 --> 1:29:43.333 the words with which Pope Pius the twelfth began his 1:29:43.733 --> 1:29:48.573 Apostolic Constitution on the Care of Migrants, which is considered 1:29:48.653 --> 1:29:52.613 the magna carta of the Church's thinking on migration, and 1:29:52.693 --> 1:29:56.733 it goes like this. The family of Nazareth in exile, Jesus, 1:29:56.733 --> 1:30:01.253 Mary and Joseph, emigrants in Egypt, and refugees there to 1:30:01.453 --> 1:30:04.853 escape the wrath of an ungodly king, are the model, 1:30:05.093 --> 1:30:09.693 the example, and the constellation of emigran and pilgrims of 1:30:09.733 --> 1:30:13.653 every age and country, of all refugees of every condition, 1:30:14.173 --> 1:30:18.413 who beset by persecution or necessity, are forced to leave 1:30:18.493 --> 1:30:23.093 their homeland, beloved family and dear friends for foreign lands. 1:30:23.413 --> 1:30:28.413 Number three. Likewise, Jesus Christ, loving everyone with a universal love, 1:30:29.013 --> 1:30:32.333 educates us in the permanent recognition of the dignity of 1:30:32.413 --> 1:30:38.333 every human being without exception. Note that without exception, in fact, 1:30:38.533 --> 1:30:40.973 I'm sure you did in fact, when we speak of 1:30:41.213 --> 1:30:46.213 infinite and transcendent dignity. We wish to emphasize that the 1:30:46.253 --> 1:30:50.453 most decisive value possessed by the human person surpasses and 1:30:50.533 --> 1:30:55.773 sustains every other juridical consideration that can be made to 1:30:55.813 --> 1:30:59.653 regulate life in society. Thus, all the Christian faithful and 1:30:59.733 --> 1:31:03.573 people of goodwill are called upon to consider the legitimacy 1:31:03.613 --> 1:31:06.773 of norms and public policies in the light of the 1:31:06.813 --> 1:31:10.973 dignity of the person and his or her fundamental rights, 1:31:11.853 --> 1:31:15.613 not vice versa. Number four. I have followed closely the 1:31:15.653 --> 1:31:18.653 major crisis that's taking place in the United States with 1:31:18.853 --> 1:31:23.813 the initiation of Now number four gets to the grips 1:31:24.373 --> 1:31:27.533 of what I think he's driving it. I have followed 1:31:27.533 --> 1:31:30.133 closely the major crisis that is taking place in the 1:31:30.213 --> 1:31:34.853 United States with the initiation of a program of mass deportations. 1:31:35.773 --> 1:31:39.453 The rightly formed conscience cannot fail to make a critical 1:31:39.533 --> 1:31:44.013 judgment and express its disagreement with any measure that tacitly 1:31:44.173 --> 1:31:49.573 or explicitly identifies the illegal status of some migrants with criminality. 1:31:50.773 --> 1:31:53.853 At the same time, one must recognize the right of 1:31:53.893 --> 1:31:57.053 a nation to defend itself and keep community safe from 1:31:57.093 --> 1:32:00.133 those who have committed violent or serious crimes while in 1:32:00.173 --> 1:32:04.213 the country or prior to arrival. That said, the act 1:32:04.293 --> 1:32:07.013 of deporting people who, in many cases have left their 1:32:07.013 --> 1:32:12.173 own land for reasons of ex extream poverty, insecurity, exploitation, persecution, 1:32:12.413 --> 1:32:17.493 or serious deterioration of the environment damages the dignity of 1:32:17.613 --> 1:32:21.813 many men and women, and of entire families, and places 1:32:21.853 --> 1:32:26.933 them in a state of particular vulnerability and defenselessness. Number five. 1:32:27.773 --> 1:32:30.933 This is not a minor issue. An authentic rule of 1:32:31.053 --> 1:32:35.053 law is verified precisely in the dignified treatment that all 1:32:35.173 --> 1:32:39.933 people deserve, especially the poorest and most marginalized. The true 1:32:39.973 --> 1:32:44.493 common good is promoted when society and government, with creativity 1:32:44.573 --> 1:32:48.053 and strict respect for the rights of all, as I 1:32:48.173 --> 1:32:53.773 have affirmed on numerous occasions, welcomes, protects, promotes, and integrates 1:32:53.813 --> 1:32:58.773 the most fragile, unprotected, and vulnerable. This does not impede 1:32:58.773 --> 1:33:03.453 the development of a policy that regulates orderly and legal migration. However, 1:33:03.493 --> 1:33:06.533 this development cannot come about through the privilege of some 1:33:06.813 --> 1:33:09.693 and the sacrifice of others. What is built on the 1:33:09.733 --> 1:33:12.573 basis of force and not on the truth about the 1:33:12.773 --> 1:33:17.013 equal dignity of every human being begins badly and will 1:33:17.133 --> 1:33:21.173 end badly. Number six. Christians know very well that it's 1:33:21.213 --> 1:33:24.213 only by affirming the infinite dignity of all that our 1:33:24.253 --> 1:33:28.573 own identity as persons and as communities reaches its maturity. 1:33:29.453 --> 1:33:34.253 Christian love is not a concentric expansion of interest that 1:33:34.373 --> 1:33:38.733 little by little extend to other persons and groups. In 1:33:38.773 --> 1:33:41.973 other words, the human person is not a mere individual 1:33:42.693 --> 1:33:48.213 relatively expansive with some philanthropic feelings. The human person is 1:33:48.253 --> 1:33:53.973 a subject with dignity, who, through the constitutive relationship with all, 1:33:54.733 --> 1:33:59.773 especially with the poorest, congradually mature in his identity and vocation. 1:34:00.693 --> 1:34:04.493 The true audo amorus that must be promoted is that 1:34:04.533 --> 1:34:08.933 which we discover by meditating constantly on the parable of 1:34:08.973 --> 1:34:12.413 the good Samaritan, that is, by meditating on the love 1:34:12.493 --> 1:34:16.533 that builds a fraternity open to all without exception. Number seven. 1:34:16.813 --> 1:34:20.653 But worrying about personal community or national identity apart from 1:34:20.733 --> 1:34:27.493 these considerations easily introduces an ideological criterion that distorts social 1:34:27.533 --> 1:34:30.533 life and imposes the will of the strongest as the 1:34:30.573 --> 1:34:35.373 criterion of truth. Number eight. I recognize your valuable efforts, 1:34:35.493 --> 1:34:38.413 dear brother bishops of the United States, as you work 1:34:38.453 --> 1:34:42.733 closely with migrants and refugees, proclaiming Jesus Christ and promoting 1:34:42.773 --> 1:34:47.333 fundamental human rights. God will richly reward all that you 1:34:47.453 --> 1:34:50.013 do for the protection and defense of those who are 1:34:50.053 --> 1:34:55.653 considered less valuable, less important, or less human. Nine I 1:34:55.733 --> 1:34:58.773 exhort all the faithful of the Catholic Church and all 1:34:58.893 --> 1:35:01.253 men and women of good will, not to give in 1:35:01.333 --> 1:35:05.773 to narratives that discriminate against and cause unnecessary suffering to 1:35:05.813 --> 1:35:11.253 our migrant and refugee brothers and sisters. With charity and clarity. 1:35:11.853 --> 1:35:15.413 Were all called to live in solidarity and fraternity, to 1:35:15.493 --> 1:35:18.693 build bridges that bring us ever closer together, to avoid 1:35:18.733 --> 1:35:23.293 wars of ignominy, and to learn to give our lives 1:35:23.373 --> 1:35:27.213 as Jesus Christ gave his for the salvation of all. 1:35:29.053 --> 1:35:32.493 And finally, number ten, let us ask our Lady of 1:35:32.533 --> 1:35:36.173 Guadaloupe to protect individuals and families who live in fear 1:35:36.373 --> 1:35:41.253 or pain due to migration and or deportation. May the 1:35:41.333 --> 1:35:45.653 Virgin Moreener, who knew how to reconcile peoples when they 1:35:45.693 --> 1:35:49.693 were at enmity, grant us all to meet again as 1:35:49.733 --> 1:35:53.173 brothers and sisters within her embrace, and to take a 1:35:53.213 --> 1:35:56.133 step forward in the construction of a society that is 1:35:56.173 --> 1:36:00.693 more fraternal, inclusive and respectful of the dignity of all 1:36:01.573 --> 1:36:07.253 fraternally Francis from the Vatican, ten February twenty twenty five. Now, 1:36:07.253 --> 1:36:10.893 there's been one particular case that's had plenty of publicity 1:36:11.093 --> 1:36:13.693 over the last week or so, and it is the 1:36:14.813 --> 1:36:18.173 true story, sadly, of the thirty seven year old mother 1:36:18.213 --> 1:36:27.173 of five who was assaulted, bashed, raped, slaughtered, not just killed, 1:36:27.453 --> 1:36:32.813 slaughtered by an illegal immigrant, who, having seen him in 1:36:33.213 --> 1:36:37.613 court pictures, seems to be totally unbothered by what he's 1:36:37.613 --> 1:36:41.293 been charged with. Now, the question, if I were able 1:36:41.333 --> 1:36:45.453 to interview by Francis, the question would be, so, where 1:36:45.453 --> 1:36:50.013 does your dignity for everybody without exception go for this one? 1:36:50.333 --> 1:36:53.733 How do you handle that? And he'd likely say, well, 1:36:54.373 --> 1:36:57.213 there are obvious exceptions that you have to take into 1:36:57.253 --> 1:37:02.813 account of, something along those lines. And the response is, well, 1:37:02.933 --> 1:37:08.053 you take into you've got an attitude that everybody, everybody 1:37:08.133 --> 1:37:11.573 is titled to the same level of dignity. What about 1:37:11.573 --> 1:37:14.373 the next time another case comes up that's similar but 1:37:14.493 --> 1:37:17.533 not as bad, So you extend it, and so you 1:37:17.613 --> 1:37:20.613 extend it again and again, and before you know it, 1:37:20.773 --> 1:37:25.613 the tyrannical judiciary has taken over, and there's no such 1:37:25.693 --> 1:37:29.293 thing as dignity for anybody. Well, it's a sound argument, 1:37:30.213 --> 1:37:33.613 might take a while, but it nevertheless is the way 1:37:33.613 --> 1:37:38.293 that things generally unfold. So on that note, please if 1:37:38.333 --> 1:37:41.013 you'd like to write to us Latent at NEWSTALKSB dot 1:37:41.013 --> 1:37:45.173 co dot nz or Carolyn at NEWSTALKSNB dot co dot nz. 1:37:46.213 --> 1:37:50.293 We love getting a correspondence. We will respond accordingly until 1:37:50.413 --> 1:37:53.213 next time. For what is at two eighty two. We 1:37:53.293 --> 1:37:57.573 shall leave you in peace and say thank you for listening, 1:37:58.453 --> 1:37:59.773 and we'll talk soon. 1:38:07.773 --> 1:38:11.733 Thank you for more from Newstalk st B. Listen live 1:38:11.933 --> 1:38:14.653 on air or online, and keep our shows with you 1:38:14.733 --> 1:38:17.733 wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio