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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge new

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on an early edition with Smith City,

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture Bids and a play at store us Dogs.

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Speaker 2: It'd be good morning. It is six half to five.

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Speaker 2: It is August thirteenth. You're with me, Ryan Bridge. Great

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Speaker 2: to have your company. Lots to get through today, as

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Speaker 2: there always is, but we will start looking at this

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Speaker 2: new payment card for beneficiaries. We will take another look

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Speaker 2: at it just before six, particularly looking at young people

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Speaker 2: using this card. Also congestion charging for the rest of

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Speaker 2: us well in the major cities Auckland's, Wellington, christ Church, Todong.

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Speaker 2: It could be coming to a place near you, but

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Speaker 2: where exactly will you drive? I'm so finding it very

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Speaker 2: hard to concentrate this morning. There is a very distinct

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Speaker 2: smell of cologne in the studio. I don't know quite

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Speaker 2: where it's coming from, but we'll get to the bottom

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Speaker 2: of that too. Just gone six five the agenda and

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Speaker 2: it is when stated the thirteenth of August. Evacuations near

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Speaker 2: Athens as we go to air International helpers on the

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Speaker 2: way for Greece where wildfires are moving closer to the

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Speaker 2: capital forty fires have been burning across the country, and

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Speaker 2: just the last day thirty have been contained. More than

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Speaker 2: six hundred firefighters, seventeen helicopters and sixteen aircraft are working

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Speaker 2: to extinguish the blaze, with the army assisting.

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Speaker 3: The situation is chaotic. Our military unit's been here from

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Speaker 3: the beginning and we're trying to help the fire unit

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Speaker 3: night will be very hard.

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Speaker 2: France, Italy and the Czech Republic are all sending firefighting

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Speaker 2: resources to assist. Russia's President Vladimir Putin says there will

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Speaker 2: be a quote worthy response to Ukraine's incursion into the

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Speaker 2: Curse region and a meeting today with security and defense officials.

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Speaker 2: He said Ukraine is trying to put itself in a

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Speaker 2: better position for future peace talk. Russian officials say Ukraine

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Speaker 2: controls about one thousand square kilometers and twenty eight villages

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Speaker 2: now being evacuated. Australian ECE teachers are set to receive

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Speaker 2: a fifteen percent pay rise across two years if the

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Speaker 2: centers agreed to limit fee increases. What does that mean

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Speaker 2: for us, while the NZDI National Secretary of Stephanie Mills,

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Speaker 2: says our sector has had a chronic workforce shortage for

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Speaker 2: a long time and the Ossie pay increase could cause

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Speaker 2: issues for us here though PAI parity introduced under the

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Speaker 2: last government has started to turn things around.

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Speaker 4: But we're very concerned that if their profession gets done down,

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Speaker 4: if the government wants to make it cheaper for employers,

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Speaker 4: that we then worsk losing great people over to Australia.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on early edition

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Speaker 1: with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store.

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Speaker 2: News talks, it'd be eight after five. Great to have

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Speaker 2: your company this morning, just with cologne gate. Leo is

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Speaker 2: that and has reminded me actually that Mike Hoskin comes

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Speaker 2: so perhaps there's a lingering smell. Anyway, he'll be with

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Speaker 2: us just before six. To clarify this morning lots to

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Speaker 2: get through. Well, we'll start very quickly with putin just

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Speaker 2: the latest from overnight. He says, I will kick the

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Speaker 2: for Putin overnight, and he is upping his rhetoric. They're

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Speaker 2: Putin respond to that? What does he do? You know,

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Speaker 2: first of all, what is the Ukrainian's endgame? But you know,

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Speaker 2: are they wanting to use the land and negotiations? As

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Speaker 2: him to go for all out war? I mean, remember

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Speaker 2: he's still calling this invasion of Ukraine a military operation,

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Speaker 2: benefit changes, some are saying cruel. You'll see headlines in

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Speaker 2: the papers this morning, cruel, stressful for beneficiaries. It's beneficiary bashing.

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Speaker 2: There was this exchange on three News last night with

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Speaker 5: There are kids out there whose households relied on a

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Speaker 7: So I'd say to those parents, it's pretty simple.

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Speaker 5: We've got common sense rules around what you need to

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Speaker 2: So the interesting thing about this is you would think,

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Speaker 2: So even just yesterday looking at this information from the

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Speaker 2: half of a person's benefit for a specified period goes

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Speaker 2: on that electronic payment card, so you can only buy

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Speaker 2: Interesting. We've had a text already and from one of

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Speaker 2: how you prioritize it, isn't it. One would love your

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Speaker 2: feedback on that one This morning nine two nine two,

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Speaker 2: we're going to speak to a youth advocate just before six.

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Speaker 2: It's eleven after five.

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Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth

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Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Swis City, New

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Speaker 1: Zealand's furniture beds and a flying store.

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Speaker 2: News Talk said be fourteen after five year old. News

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Speaker 2: Talk said be. We are going to speak shortly to AA.

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Speaker 2: This is about the government's congestion charging legislation. It's going

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Speaker 2: to be a couple of years away, so you can

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Speaker 2: relax driving into the cities. This morning, new small business

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Speaker 2: surveys come out. No surprise really, this is five hundred

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Speaker 2: SMEs that have been spoken to surveyed by RFI Global Research.

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Speaker 2: Seventy percent are stressed and burned out and smeezs remember

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Speaker 2: make up ninety seven percent of all businesses in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: They employ about thirty percent of our workforce. And this

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Speaker 2: is the number you need to worry about. Just forty

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Speaker 2: the next year forty eight percent. That's down from fifty

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Speaker 2: three percent on the last survey. Why inflation cost pressures?

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Speaker 2: You know, there aren't people through the door consumers like

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Speaker 2: there were. And ironically, I suppose one of those problems

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Speaker 2: will help solve the other, won't they When you know,

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Speaker 2: and weirdly he is backing Trump even though Trump hates

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Speaker 2: evs and he owns an EV company. Doesn't make any

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Speaker 2: It is quarter past.

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Speaker 2: So the legislation is on the way to introduce congestion

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Speaker 2: charging on our busiest roads. The bill will be drafted

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Speaker 2: and introduced this year select committee. From early twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: local councils will propose what their ideas are for local roads.

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Speaker 2: NZTA will help with the design the farm us supposedly

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Speaker 2: will be ring fence. They must be reinvested back into

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Speaker 2: transport in the area. They were taken from the AA

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Speaker 2: Policy director as Martin Glynn is with us this morning. Martin,

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Speaker 2: good morning, Good to have you on the show. Good morning, right,

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Speaker 2: So is this just local roads that we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Will this actually help motorway traffic?

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Speaker 8: No, I don't think it's local roads at all. I

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Speaker 8: think there's a very high chance that the food scheme

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Speaker 8: will be on one or more of Orkand's motorways.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we're not just talking about CBD congestion charging here.

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Speaker 8: No, we're not all the singles we've had Ryan As.

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Speaker 8: It'll be focused on network performance. Utan city centers such

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Speaker 8: a tiny proportion of the traffic, it doesn't it's not

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Speaker 8: sort of unable to have it impact on the whole network.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, we're expecting it'll be beyond the city center,

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Speaker 8: but we'll have to wait and see what finally, what

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Speaker 2: Which I guess makes sense that NZTA is involved, right

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Speaker 2: given the the motorway networks run by Central.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's a combination of that and the

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Speaker 8: going to it's going to shift the dialogue congestion.

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Speaker 2: In Europe, Asia, the Middle East where they've done this.

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Speaker 2: It only seems to work in those central areas if

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Speaker 2: you have good public transport alternatives. Do we have that

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Speaker 2: on our motorway network.

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Speaker 6: No, we don't.

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Speaker 8: Most of the motorway trips aren't heading to the city

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Speaker 8: center there, all over the place, a public transport is

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Speaker 8: now pretty good. And then out of the city center

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Speaker 8: better with the city rail length. But generally, yeah, public

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Speaker 2: What's a reasonable charge? Do you reckon? I saw Wayne

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Speaker 8: and it will need to be about that level. Make people,

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Speaker 8: you know, five bucks a trip for someone who's you know,

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Speaker 8: it doesn't work in the office, and they're not not

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Speaker 8: that's one of the things we're really concerned about that

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Speaker 8: the charges has got to be affordable because you know,

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Speaker 8: people don't need the alternatives. Know they're still going to drive.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Thanks for your time this morning, Martin. Martin Glenn,

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Speaker 2: are worried right now, I do wonder question if you

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Speaker 2: live close to where this you know district will be.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you live in that area, does that

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Speaker 2: just mean you can't drive your car if you want

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Speaker 2: to go, I don't know, visit a friend at peak hour,

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Speaker 2: you won't be able to do it or you will

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Speaker 2: Importantly for those who are worried about that. Coming up next,

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Speaker 2: we're looking at construction. Almost three quarters of builders believe

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Speaker 2: that the slowdown is going to carry on for at

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Speaker 2: least another year.

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Speaker 1: The first Word on the News of the Day early

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Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City New Zealand's furniture

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Speaker 1: beds and a play at store news Talk Zippy.

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Speaker 2: Twenty one after five new retail crime stats out from

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Speaker 2: Dairy Owners Group this morning. We'll get to that in

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Speaker 2: just a second. Also, we'll have more on these benefit

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Speaker 2: before six. Right now, almost three quarters of builders believe

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Speaker 2: the construction slowdown will carry on for at least another year.

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Speaker 1: Way on your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition

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Speaker 2: Good morning to get a twenty four away from Sexier.

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Speaker 2: On news Talk said b I'm Ryan Bridge. It is Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: the setting that August is great to have your company. Hello, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: this is I'm just reading this text very quickly. You

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Speaker 2: It comes across and it's very clear I'd like you

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Speaker 2: Lots of other good feedback this morning, Hi, Ryan, No

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Speaker 2: It is a good point. It comes after this Eboss

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Speaker 2: lots of them, but this one in particular on congestion charges. Ryan,

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Speaker 2: I have a chronically ill daughter on dialysis. We have

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Speaker 2: What I can tell you, Judy, is that emergency vehicles

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Speaker 2: It is twenty two away from six Brian Bridge. We're

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Speaker 2: District Council this morning, Ye morning Ryan.

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Speaker 10: The council's defending its approach to protecting Maori cultural sites.

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Speaker 10: They say, look, it's no different from the current processes

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Speaker 10: these new plans from the council to declare the entire

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Speaker 2: All right, And how's your weather today?

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Speaker 10: Early morning shows clearing to find this afternoon westerlies and

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Speaker 2: morning Claire. Interesting you were talking the other day about

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Speaker 2: an expanded Electra Avenue festival and now a scaled back

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Speaker 11: It's all on here in Canterbury, Ryan Look. Cantabrians are

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Speaker 11: that was at the general meeting had called off this

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Speaker 11: Novembers show initially because of some financial struggles. That was

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Speaker 11: He says they're now asking the public to purchase tickets

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Speaker 2: That sounds like it's going to be a great show.

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Speaker 2: Clear The weather in Canterbury today.

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Speaker 11: Cold and frosty to start, southwesterlies will turn normally a

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Speaker 2: Thank you and Max tollers. In Wellington this morning, the

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Speaker 12: One of our reporters found this fifty million dollar budget

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Speaker 2: It's less than ideal, isn't it. Max Weather today.

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Speaker 13: I heard you say after five about a smell in

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Speaker 2: Can you smell then? Yes, it's thick in the air.

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Speaker 13: It is thick in the air. It smells like the

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Speaker 2: I was going to say expensive.

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Speaker 13: Oh yes, so then hey, well who this one?

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's not for my benefit that he comes in,

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Speaker 2: and it's because he doesn't want a doty for when

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Speaker 2: when he comes in. But there was but I was wondering,

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Speaker 2: is is it just that he's been in here and

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Speaker 2: gone and the smell has remained, or is he's actually

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Speaker 2: spraying the seat.

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Speaker 11: Well, he could be.

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Speaker 13: What does it say about you saying as we should

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Speaker 13: try and capture that because little we squirre. It is

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Speaker 13: probably worth a thousand dollars. I suppose it's better than

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Speaker 13: the studio smelling a.

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Speaker 2: Bo absolutely, absolutely, which is probably what happens when I leave.

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Speaker 2: Hey very quickly. I know you've got a story for me,

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Speaker 2: but I've got a story for you.

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Speaker 6: Have you tell me?

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Speaker 2: These are the divers and Carpity Coast? Did you read that?

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Speaker 9: Yes?

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Speaker 13: I did, tell me.

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Speaker 2: Tell us this is why you don't dive. This is

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Speaker 2: why I don't dive. Okay, So they're diving. The girlfriends

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Speaker 2: are on the boat, they go in the water. They're

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Speaker 2: diving for a couple of hours. They pop up or

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Speaker 2: they've been dragged south.

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Speaker 13: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: This is before I've even mentioned sharks, of which they

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Speaker 2: there are none. But this is what I would be

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Speaker 2: worried about if I was anyway. Boat's not there, girlfriends

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Speaker 2: five pm, Sunday night. Where are they? I don't know,

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Speaker 2: call the emergency services. Can't find out our partners. They've

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Speaker 2: just you know, gone underwater and haven't popped up. So

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Speaker 2: they're thinking obviously the worst. Anyway, the guys have popped up.

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Speaker 2: They've realized they're too far from the boat. They then

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Speaker 2: swim through currents and tides and all sorts to an island,

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Speaker 2: Fisherman Island an hour away.

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Speaker 13: An hour, an hour in the water.

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Speaker 2: And then they have an emergency pack on them which

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Speaker 2: has got matches. They light a fire on the island.

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Speaker 2: Helicopter sees the fire, boom, stop it, rescue serious. This

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Speaker 2: was Sunday Night and Company.

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Speaker 13: These too, neat two divers, two diskies is over medal

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Speaker 13: is fantastic.

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Speaker 2: And the girlfriends for the imagine the nerves.

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Speaker 6: Ah, the nerves.

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Speaker 13: I mean that's like a movie.

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Speaker 2: It is, isn't it? Oh my god?

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Speaker 1: Well done?

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Speaker 2: What was your story?

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Speaker 13: No, I think your story is way better than that.

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Speaker 13: Mine was about all contransport. But no, but no, you

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Speaker 13: know we'll wait sick of that. No, your story that

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Speaker 13: is that tops it. But I'll do the weather. How

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Speaker 13: about that partly cloudy, isolated light showers early morning Auckland

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Speaker 13: find spellso increasing this afternoon? Fourteen is the high.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant Thank you never get to see sixteen away from sex.

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Speaker 1: I love this international correspondence with ends in eye insurance

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Speaker 1: peace of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen away from six. We're talking to Shirley Johnson, the

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Speaker 2: Youth Justice Consultant on the beneficiary changes which will do

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Speaker 2: in just a few moments A very quickly a text,

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Speaker 2: this one from Jake making a good point, Hi, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: Nobody will be sanctioned for being unemployed. They'll be sanctioned

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Speaker 2: for not meeting the requirements I having a CV, attending interviews,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. Jake good point well made the text number

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Speaker 2: nine two, nine to two this morning. We're now going

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Speaker 2: to Donna Tomayo, our Australia correspondent. There's a push for

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Speaker 2: a total gambling ad band there, Donna.

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Speaker 5: Yes, there was a certain inquiry in twenty twenty two

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Speaker 5: and it called for a full ban on gambling ads,

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Speaker 5: and it's back in the news because it looks like

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Speaker 5: Lady's going to face some resistance from backbenches and the

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Speaker 5: Greens in regard to what it's said or suggesting that

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Speaker 5: perhaps there won't be a gambling ad ban, a full ban,

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Speaker 5: but there might be some cap imposed on them. So

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Speaker 5: we've heard from the Cabinet Minister Bill Shorten, who says

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Speaker 5: that I'm not sure the blanket bands work. Interesting, right,

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Speaker 5: So the Greens spoken up and we heard from their

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Speaker 5: communications spokespresin Sarah Hanson Young yesterday and she said that

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Speaker 5: the minor party would be trying to amend that bill

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Speaker 5: or any bill that is introduced that would lead and

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Speaker 5: they do definitely want a total ban on gambling ads.

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Speaker 5: It's an ongoing campaign. But what would that mean. They

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Speaker 5: want no ads online, they want none in children's programming,

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Speaker 5: and they definitely don't want any during live sports broadcasts

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Speaker 5: and an hour either side of said sports broadcasts. So

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Speaker 5: it'll be interesting to see what ends up happening. But

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Speaker 5: as Albanezi says, the government is working through the issues

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Speaker 5: and says it is very complex. Now can you imagine

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Speaker 5: media companies, major sporting codes. Well, they definitely don't want

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Speaker 5: gambling at bands because I imagine the impact on their

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Speaker 5: revenue exactly.

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Speaker 2: Hey, one person I wouldn't be bidding on and that

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Speaker 2: that's Raygun the Olympic breakdown. So she's she's spoken, spoken

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Speaker 2: out on what's happened. What she's saying.

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Speaker 5: As we have gone on, Vital has been relentless since that.

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Speaker 5: You just can't unsee that kangaroo move that she that

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Speaker 5: she did at that breakdancing at the Olympics. So Raygun

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Speaker 5: has said that it's all about creativity and originality, and

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Speaker 5: she said she was never going to beat the girls

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Speaker 5: she described them and their power moves, but what she

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Speaker 5: brought to the Olympics and to the breakdancing was creativity

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Speaker 5: and that sometimes her artistry speaks to the judges and

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Speaker 5: sometimes it doesn't, but she is convinced that what she

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Speaker 5: did was art And we also heard from the PM

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Speaker 5: who said the Olympics, well, it's about people participating in

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Speaker 5: sport and she gave it a cry.

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Speaker 2: She certainly did. Donna, thank you very much for that. Donodo,

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Speaker 2: our Australia correspondent. It's eleven to six Bryan Bridge Beneficiary

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Speaker 2: bashing or reasonable Expectations. The government has introduced tougher rules

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Speaker 2: and harsher penalties for beneficiaries. Job Seekers will have to

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Speaker 2: reapply for the benefit every six months, and a new

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Speaker 2: traffic light system which will indicate whether you're complying with

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Speaker 2: the rules that came into a false yesterday. There will

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Speaker 2: also be new sanctions like money management. It means that

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Speaker 2: half of a person's benefit could go on an electronic

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Speaker 2: payment card which you can only use for things like

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Speaker 2: essentials like groceries and clothing, but only if they break

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Speaker 2: the rules to begin with, don't meet the obligations, right,

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Speaker 2: So what does this mean for particularly young job seekers.

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Speaker 2: Youth Justice consultant advocate Sheirley Johnson's with me now, Shurley,

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Speaker 2: good morning.

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Speaker 4: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: So I suppose there's two Well, there's obviously two arguments here.

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Speaker 2: But my question to you you would be what is

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Speaker 2: unreasonable about the expectations.

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Speaker 4: Well, you're right, like, obviously we need some accountability, but

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Speaker 4: there always is a bit of an undertone about people

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Speaker 4: who find themselves on benefits for whatever reason something the

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Speaker 4: people who you can't trust, so therefore you've got to

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Speaker 4: manage their money. And it's a sense that they're sitting

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Speaker 4: at home English and on the money which we are

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Speaker 4: giving them. It's just not the reality. We exist in

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Speaker 4: a recessionary times for adults finding it hard to get

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Speaker 4: to work, and so if you look at adult unemployments

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Speaker 4: going up, young people it's always about double of that.

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Speaker 4: So for them to get it's really tough times at

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Speaker 4: the moment, and I don't think punishments it's the way

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Speaker 4: to activate this in any way at all.

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Speaker 2: So let's be clear, you don't get punished for just

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Speaker 2: being on the benefit. You only get punished if and

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Speaker 2: you don't even get punished if you're on the benefit

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Speaker 2: and you can't find a job. You get punished if

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Speaker 2: you don't meet the obligations, right, and there are levels

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Speaker 2: of punishment and traffic light systems, etc.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think even that idea, like I'd like to

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Speaker 4: believe that every young person has a casework that they're working,

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Speaker 4: how we wouldn't know very clearly how they're going in

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Speaker 4: terms of trying to get a job in supporting them.

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Speaker 4: The idea that every six month saying you've got to

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Speaker 4: reapply it really is a bit of a sense of punishment.

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Speaker 4: Nothing is more terrifying than him to go into an

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Speaker 4: organization like MSD to apply to see whether you've got.

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Speaker 6: Any more money again.

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Speaker 4: And like, I just think some of those steps are

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Speaker 4: just unnecessary because one of the key things that we've

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Speaker 4: found over the years in terms of turning things around

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Speaker 4: for young people, because a lot of young people who

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Speaker 4: are on benefits kind of either don't have the skills,

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Speaker 4: have been through a lot of traumas that have lost

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Speaker 4: tous and confidence both in themselves in the system as

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Speaker 4: quality relationships are really important so that they rebuild themselves

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Speaker 4: and anything that gets in the way of that is

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Speaker 4: quite destructive. And none of this is new, none of no.

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Speaker 6: I know, we have.

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Speaker 4: Tried before where beneficiaries are only allowed to purchase whatever.

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Speaker 4: I've tried before, where you know, you have to work

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Speaker 4: to get the doll and they actually found that it

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Speaker 4: didn't work. So it's kind of feels to me a

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Speaker 4: little bit fullness to go back and redo what we

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Speaker 4: know doesn't work when there are in fact a lot

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Speaker 4: of programs out there that are working incredibly well.

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Speaker 2: Surely thanks for your time. That Shirley Johnson, she's the

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Speaker 2: Youth Justice Consultant Advocate, responding there to the government's changes

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Speaker 2: on penalties and you know, criteria, et cetera, sanctions. I

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Speaker 2: don't know. Sherely mentions that there can be terrifying the

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Speaker 2: thought of having your benefit canceled. Shouldn't that be a

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Speaker 2: little bit terrifying, you know, the thought that perhaps you

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Speaker 2: won't be able to feed and clothe yourself, and therefore

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Speaker 2: it acts as motivation to get work. Nine two nine

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Speaker 2: two the number.

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Speaker 1: To text news and views you Trust To start your

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Speaker 1: day is early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City,

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture beds and a flying store. You've talked said, be.

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Speaker 2: Four minutes away from six this morning. Elon Musk going

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Speaker 2: to interview Donald Trump on exit midday to Day. That'll

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Speaker 2: be fun. Mike's here, Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 7: Well, I just wish you'd make better cars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, why is he supporting a guy

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Speaker 2: who doesn't like evs? That's what I don't care.

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Speaker 7: But because he's an unusual bloke and a read very

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Speaker 7: interesting piece the other day that suggested that his brand

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Speaker 7: now is damaging the car company because he's so sort

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Speaker 7: of toxic. Yeah, and so people go, I don't want

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Speaker 7: to be associated with him, So I wouldn't buy his car,

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Speaker 7: even if it's a decent car.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting anyway.

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Speaker 7: Prime Minister on this morning gets Prime Minister Tuesday, so

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Speaker 7: we'll talk about the electricity market.

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Speaker 2: Did you come in here and spray cologne this morning

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Speaker 2: by any chance?

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Speaker 7: No, it'll just be me. I always smell beautiful. You

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Speaker 7: shouldn't know that by.

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Speaker 2: Now wrong, it's very thick in the air.

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