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Speaker 1: We've got the launch today of a red tape tip line.

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Speaker 1: This is the Ministry of a Regulation. Seymour's idea wants

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Speaker 1: to hear from you. Apparently infrastructure in New Zealand, bosnic

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Speaker 1: Leggett is whether it's on that Nick morlling to you hello?

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Speaker 1: Is this a stunt?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's going to be interesting to see what a

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Speaker 2: tip line uncovers, isn't it. I mean what worries me

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Speaker 2: is that we've got this sort of bureaucratic butt covering

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Speaker 2: that drives a lot of red tape and is that

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Speaker 2: hardwired into New Zealand's DNA now or can we do

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Speaker 2: something about it? So I think that David Seymour's Ministry

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Speaker 2: of Regulation is a is a good aim, but it's

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Speaker 2: going to take more than a tip line to actually

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Speaker 2: uncover where the problems are. You might pick up some trends,

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Speaker 2: it's a good way of involving the public, but actually

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Speaker 2: this is where you need politicians to lead and to act.

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Speaker 2: And I can tell you in the infrastructure sector that

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Speaker 2: you think about the cost of consenting And there'll be

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Speaker 2: lots of people listening that have done in addition to

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Speaker 2: their house or tried to build a commercial premise, the

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Speaker 2: cost of consenting the time it takes for any amount

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Speaker 2: of work under two hundred thousand dollars. In the infrastructure

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Speaker 2: set that the costs are contending of sixteen percent of

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Speaker 2: the job, it's over thirty thousand dollars. That's that's the

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Speaker 2: sort of red tape that they know.

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Speaker 1: But that's the problem that they know that, don't.

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Speaker 2: They That's right, That's what I mean. It's about we

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Speaker 2: need there to be some action on this stuff. And

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Speaker 2: it just seems as though so much of red tape

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Speaker 2: and consenting costs are people trying to protect and de

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Speaker 2: risk themselves, whereas we've got to have a more permissive

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Speaker 2: system and us that on that doesn't compromise on our standards,

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Speaker 2: still really protects safety. Oh that's another one, Mike. You know,

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Speaker 2: think about the red cones you know on the street

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Speaker 2: that key we's love. I mean, the government have said

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Speaker 2: we want fewer red cones. Well, you know, I'm a

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Speaker 2: director of a company that contracts infrastructure work and public works.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to take the risk of reducing red

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Speaker 2: cones unless there's a law that tells me I can

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Speaker 2: do that. So we do really have to demand like

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Speaker 2: it's great. It's a great sort of popular thing to say,

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Speaker 2: let's reduce cut through red tape, but somebody at the

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Speaker 2: end of the day has to hold the pen and

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Speaker 2: make sure that that happens, so keywis can get their

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Speaker 2: work done faster and we can be more productive of

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Speaker 2: a country.

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Speaker 1: Very well, said Nick nick Leggett, who is the Infrastructure

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