1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: More movement over the weekend in attracting the right people 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: into the country to fill labor gaps. This is the 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Global Workforce VISA will target specialized workers over a three 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: year period, allowing them to basically come and go. Pig 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: seasonal VISA will focus on short term agri and agriculture 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: things like that for up to seven months. David Cooper 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: as the CEO director at to Malcolm Pacific Immigration and 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: is with It's David, very good morning to you. 9 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: Good morning mate, makes sense and fill the gaps absolutely. 10 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: Look the Minister of Immigration, Ericus Stanford, she's listened to 11 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: industry and she's nailed it. She solved a big problem. 12 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: Why didn't we solve a big problem before? Because what 13 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: she's done, although sensible, doesn't strike me as particularly complex 14 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: or is it. 15 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: Well, it's not complex if you're listening. But if you're 16 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 2: not listening and you're doing what you think is right 17 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: and you're not listening to industry, then things don't get fixed. 18 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: And for the last eighteen months in the immigration space, 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: the Minister's been fixing all the problems. 20 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: The come and go aspect of it. Was that a 21 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: key the ability to move. 22 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well look these particularly if you look at something 23 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: like the snow industry, for example, these are young people. 24 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: They come in, they do a season, and then they 25 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 2: head away. And that's no different to what kiwis do. 26 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: You go to Aspen, you go to Hofgarten, you'll hear 27 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: Kiwi's working on the ski slopes, right. Just what happens 28 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 2: in that particular industry. 29 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: The agri stuff is have we given up on the 30 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: unemployed in this country? We have more of than five 31 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: point two percent as of last week. Have we given 32 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: up on getting locals to do it? It's just too hard? 33 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it's that, Mike. I think it's 34 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: the seasonal nature of the job. They're in places where 35 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 2: not a lot of Kewis particularly want to be. It's 36 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: messy work, it's not particularly pleasant and it's hard to 37 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: attract people. So that's why these employers are having to 38 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: bring people in from offshore. 39 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: What's your sense of demand? Are we still attractive? 40 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: Take a look at our Golden visa. We're up to 41 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: nearly two hundred and seventy applications and four months were 42 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: at over one point six billion dollars and four months 43 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: the best this visa ever did in the past was 44 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 2: a billion dollars a year. We are attractive, people want 45 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: to come here. 46 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: Good. Would it help if they could buy a house. 47 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: You bet. It would supercharge the interest in this visa. 48 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: And it wouldn't help just the interest, Mike. It would 49 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: get people committed because they'd spend time in our communities 50 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: and they'd do more for New Zealand. 51 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: More common sense, David, always enjoy your company, David Coober, 52 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: the CEO director of Melolm Pacific Immigration. If we can 53 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: get this sorted out the way he claims, we have 54 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: once again, you know, Erica Stamford strikes. I mean, how 55 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: many good op eds did she get herself last week 56 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,399 Speaker 1: with the NCAA stuff. So she seems to have solved immigration. 57 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: If it's that easy and we have now done the 58 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: right thing, why is it taking us till twenty twenty five. 59 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 60 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 61 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 2: the podcast my Heart Radio