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Speaker 1: Now it is not looking that good for the Maori

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Speaker 1: Party in terms of a peace deal. Today the eerie

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Speaker 1: leaders have met today with the rogue MP taku to

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Speaker 1: Paris to try to brok or cease fire. But then

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Speaker 1: from the other side, shots are still being fired with

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Speaker 1: Kitty tamaher who's John Tamahera his daughter, and also at

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Speaker 1: Arwity White Eats wife still going on social media after

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Speaker 1: the last couple of days having her say. Baden Barber

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Speaker 1: is the chair of Nati Kahungu, who was at the

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Speaker 1: meeting today. Hi, Baden, how are good? Thank you? So

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Speaker 1: you met with taku to today and it was constructive. Yes, yep,

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Speaker 1: yep it was what did you guys agree?

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Speaker 2: Well, we we offered to host Hui and Pornique next

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Speaker 2: week and it would be great for him to come

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Speaker 2: along to their meeting as we're trying to pull together

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Speaker 2: the factions and so he he he offered, accepted to come.

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Speaker 2: He'll uh you know, he can see it coming to

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Speaker 2: get a face to face, this opportunity to build bridges.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so that was pleasing, very pleasing. And like

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Speaker 2: I say, we met with the co leaders on Tuesday

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Speaker 2: and to have an opportunity to speak with Takuta. Even

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Speaker 2: though Mariamna wasn't at the whuy, We're still a valuable exercise.

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Speaker 1: To why was she not at the meeting?

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Speaker 2: Not too sure? Not too sure? Yeah, said that he

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Speaker 2: would be the only one at the meeting. Kater boy,

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Speaker 2: it is what it is and uh and so we

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Speaker 2: had the meeting with Dociden.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's because it's a lost cause with her,

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Speaker 1: it's over with her?

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Speaker 2: No, not at all. I think he has has said

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Speaker 2: that she wants to meet with her people in the

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Speaker 2: North first before you know, other meetings, and so I'm

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Speaker 2: assuming that's the reason why she wasn't in the meeting today.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now, what's going on with Kerry tamahead it because

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Speaker 1: didn't the party just agree with you a couple of

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Speaker 1: days ago that they would stop firing shots on social

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Speaker 1: media and yet she continues to do it.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know that that was a discussion. You know

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Speaker 2: these the party is is wider, I guess, and you've

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Speaker 2: got lots of different parts of the party. But when

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Speaker 2: we spoke to the coaches, you know there's a general

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Speaker 2: agreement from from themselves.

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Speaker 1: But like, isn't their own wife because you're talking to

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Speaker 1: Roweri and then Rowady's missus goes on.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean we can only we can only

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Speaker 2: encourage and ask. At the end of the day, you know,

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Speaker 2: they're all adults and don't make their own choices.

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Speaker 1: Not helpful that I'd imagine. Listen, do you actually think,

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Speaker 1: be honest with me, you can't keep this together. This

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Speaker 1: thing is going to fall apart.

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Speaker 2: Were going to give it our best shot. And you know,

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Speaker 2: from from the discussions we had with Rowdy and deb

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Speaker 2: and also today with Takuta, you know there's still a

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Speaker 2: glimmer of hope and and that's what we let you go onto.

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Speaker 2: We've asked to bring up at the Marai and you know,

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Speaker 2: if we can get there before it all falls to bits,

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Speaker 2: you know, that would be the best outcome. So that's

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Speaker 2: what we pushed today. Takuta agreed to next week. And

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Speaker 2: here's let's keep.

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Speaker 1: With you on the other question, Baden, why are you guys,

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Speaker 1: as the EWEE chairs Forum, so invested in what's going

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Speaker 1: on with the Maori Party, Like would you do the

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Speaker 1: same thing if there were members of the Labor Party

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Speaker 1: who were in the Marii Electricity who are having in

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Speaker 1: fighting like this, would you step in as well?

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Speaker 2: It would depend. I mean we're we're stepped in because

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Speaker 2: there is an election in twelve months time. We're pretty

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Speaker 2: adamant at this government needs to go. I mean we've

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Speaker 2: been challenged like no other generation in the last couple

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Speaker 2: of years. So yeah, we've got a bigger picture ahead

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Speaker 2: of us. There's white stake and having the Marti Party

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Speaker 2: and fighting twelve months out from an election when they

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Speaker 2: should be pumping out policy before Christmas is not good.

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Speaker 2: And so you know it's not just about mighty party politics.

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Speaker 2: You know, the feeling goes right out to all mighty communities,

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Speaker 2: even though they might not be mighty party supporters. So

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Speaker 2: people are hurting, People are you know, confused, and you

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Speaker 2: know he just wants to stop. And that's why the

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Speaker 2: ewhas have stepped in.

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Speaker 1: All right, Baden, thanks very much for your time. Good

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Speaker 1: luck with us. It seems like a hard job. Baden Barber,

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