1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,507 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from News Talk ZEDB. 3 00:00:12,627 --> 00:00:15,587 Speaker 2: It's been handled a five second time penalty and has 4 00:00:15,627 --> 00:00:19,787 Speaker 2: therefore lost his points finish from Formula one's Miami Grand 5 00:00:19,867 --> 00:00:23,707 Speaker 2: Prix sprint race. After qualifying fourteenth, Lawson looked to have 6 00:00:23,707 --> 00:00:27,187 Speaker 2: finished seventh in the eighteen lap affair shortened by one 7 00:00:27,267 --> 00:00:29,547 Speaker 2: lap due to rain, but the key we is judged 8 00:00:29,587 --> 00:00:31,747 Speaker 2: to have been at fault for an incident with Aston 9 00:00:31,827 --> 00:00:36,307 Speaker 2: Martin's Fernando Alonso, who crashed in the final lapse of 10 00:00:36,347 --> 00:00:40,147 Speaker 2: the race. Now, Lawson himself didn't believe that he was 11 00:00:40,347 --> 00:00:43,947 Speaker 2: at fault for the incident. He spoke about it shortly 12 00:00:44,147 --> 00:00:46,387 Speaker 2: after the finish of the sprint race. 13 00:00:47,067 --> 00:00:49,747 Speaker 3: He came out on cold tires and I'd done a lap, 14 00:00:49,787 --> 00:00:51,307 Speaker 3: so I was trying to get by him early in 15 00:00:51,307 --> 00:00:53,547 Speaker 3: the lap. Made sure my wheel was ahead at the apex, 16 00:00:53,587 --> 00:00:56,147 Speaker 3: wouldn't try and overtake, and I feel I did that 17 00:00:56,227 --> 00:00:58,387 Speaker 3: and then I got six squeezed off, so obviously not 18 00:00:58,387 --> 00:01:00,947 Speaker 3: my intention, but I do feel like my wheels ahead. 19 00:01:01,067 --> 00:01:03,587 Speaker 2: So seventh in the sprint would have netted Lawson two 20 00:01:03,587 --> 00:01:07,387 Speaker 2: points and betters his ninth placings from gromp in Singapore 21 00:01:07,627 --> 00:01:10,387 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three and Austin and Brazil last year, 22 00:01:10,427 --> 00:01:14,147 Speaker 2: but not to be He will start fifteenth meantime in 23 00:01:14,227 --> 00:01:17,627 Speaker 2: tomorrow's main race after being eliminated in the second session 24 00:01:17,627 --> 00:01:20,867 Speaker 2: of qualifying for the second consecutive day. Let's talk some 25 00:01:20,947 --> 00:01:25,147 Speaker 2: motorsport and two of my favorite motorsport writers have assembled. 26 00:01:25,347 --> 00:01:27,547 Speaker 2: I've summoned them and I have answered the call. You 27 00:01:27,547 --> 00:01:29,747 Speaker 2: can read them both at enzidherld dot co dot MZ. 28 00:01:30,187 --> 00:01:33,467 Speaker 2: Eric Thompson and Alex Powell. Alex, can we start with you? 29 00:01:33,907 --> 00:01:37,347 Speaker 2: What happened that led to Liam Lawson being given the 30 00:01:37,387 --> 00:01:38,147 Speaker 2: time penalty? 31 00:01:38,747 --> 00:01:40,747 Speaker 4: Afternoon piney hope you are mate. Yeah, it's a bit 32 00:01:40,787 --> 00:01:42,347 Speaker 4: of a funny one, isn't it, Because I mean, you 33 00:01:42,427 --> 00:01:45,107 Speaker 4: look at the steward's official ruling. They consided that Lawson 34 00:01:45,347 --> 00:01:48,107 Speaker 4: was ahead at turn twelve. I think if you watch 35 00:01:48,147 --> 00:01:50,307 Speaker 4: the replays you see that. But because a lot SOO 36 00:01:50,427 --> 00:01:53,387 Speaker 4: was a head at turn eleven, he was the sort 37 00:01:53,387 --> 00:01:56,507 Speaker 4: of the lead car and because of that, Lawson was 38 00:01:56,547 --> 00:01:58,387 Speaker 4: in the wrong for forcing him off the track. 39 00:01:59,267 --> 00:02:02,787 Speaker 2: And so it was the correct decision that was handed out. 40 00:02:02,867 --> 00:02:05,147 Speaker 2: Eric Thompson, welcome to you. You agree with that that 41 00:02:05,227 --> 00:02:07,707 Speaker 2: it was correct of the official rus to hand loss 42 00:02:07,707 --> 00:02:08,547 Speaker 2: in the time penalty. 43 00:02:09,667 --> 00:02:12,827 Speaker 5: I mean I never really, honestly, Piny and Hi Alex 44 00:02:13,547 --> 00:02:17,987 Speaker 5: never really quite understand some of the machinations of the officials. 45 00:02:18,027 --> 00:02:21,267 Speaker 5: I mean, as Alex said, you know, like Alonso was 46 00:02:21,307 --> 00:02:23,067 Speaker 5: deemed to be a head in turn eleven and then 47 00:02:23,187 --> 00:02:26,867 Speaker 5: to use that as some sort of metric to pass 48 00:02:26,947 --> 00:02:30,427 Speaker 5: down a ruling for the following corner. I just thought 49 00:02:30,427 --> 00:02:33,467 Speaker 5: it was a bit odd. But I mean, Lim and 50 00:02:33,827 --> 00:02:38,267 Speaker 5: Alonso had a bit of history, of a bit of 51 00:02:38,307 --> 00:02:40,787 Speaker 5: will to will argie bargie, But I mean, I think 52 00:02:42,267 --> 00:02:45,987 Speaker 5: it's a bit harsh. But you know, something about officials 53 00:02:45,987 --> 00:02:48,507 Speaker 5: and sort of looking at things and ruling things, and 54 00:02:48,987 --> 00:02:51,987 Speaker 5: you know, going back to the previous corner, I find 55 00:02:52,027 --> 00:02:52,667 Speaker 5: that very odd. 56 00:02:53,867 --> 00:02:56,867 Speaker 2: All right, Well, even putting that to one side, that 57 00:02:57,027 --> 00:03:00,827 Speaker 2: happened after the race had finished, Alex, how much confidence 58 00:03:00,867 --> 00:03:03,587 Speaker 2: will Liam Lawson take from the fact that he actually 59 00:03:03,667 --> 00:03:05,707 Speaker 2: drove the car pretty well, I'm pretty fast during the 60 00:03:05,707 --> 00:03:06,267 Speaker 2: sprint race. 61 00:03:06,427 --> 00:03:08,027 Speaker 4: I mean, I hope he takes a lot of confidence 62 00:03:08,067 --> 00:03:09,507 Speaker 4: from it, because he needs it at the moment. You 63 00:03:09,547 --> 00:03:12,067 Speaker 4: look at how difficult this Miami track is to actually 64 00:03:12,067 --> 00:03:15,587 Speaker 4: overtake on Liam Lawson passed five cars on the opening 65 00:03:15,587 --> 00:03:18,507 Speaker 4: of app alone, Like, that's not easy to do. He's 66 00:03:18,507 --> 00:03:20,427 Speaker 4: going to be starting a bit further back than he was. 67 00:03:20,467 --> 00:03:22,787 Speaker 4: I mean, he's starting fifteenth compared to fourteenth, so it's 68 00:03:22,827 --> 00:03:25,467 Speaker 4: not too much. But if there's rain then I think 69 00:03:25,507 --> 00:03:27,427 Speaker 4: it really will bring him into it. But I mean, 70 00:03:27,467 --> 00:03:29,347 Speaker 4: at this point in the season, where so many things 71 00:03:29,347 --> 00:03:31,027 Speaker 4: have gone wrong for him, you just don't know. 72 00:03:32,947 --> 00:03:35,587 Speaker 2: Are you seeing improvements in Liam's driving? 73 00:03:37,027 --> 00:03:43,107 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll beck, Alex. I'm saying even in Liam's post race, 74 00:03:43,347 --> 00:03:46,147 Speaker 5: Chaddy just said something just things just opened up for 75 00:03:46,267 --> 00:03:49,667 Speaker 5: me and he went for it. And sometimes that just 76 00:03:49,747 --> 00:03:52,627 Speaker 5: happens in sort of motorsport. The thing is where you 77 00:03:52,667 --> 00:03:55,067 Speaker 5: just see this gap through everybody else that hasn't launched 78 00:03:55,067 --> 00:03:57,307 Speaker 5: off the line as well as you have. And he 79 00:03:57,707 --> 00:04:01,667 Speaker 5: hooked the car up really really well and drove really 80 00:04:01,667 --> 00:04:05,347 Speaker 5: well and to finish, you know, well, think he'll take 81 00:04:05,387 --> 00:04:10,387 Speaker 5: a lot of confidence from finishing, you know in seventh. 82 00:04:10,947 --> 00:04:13,707 Speaker 5: You know, despite his penalty, he did finish like on 83 00:04:13,827 --> 00:04:17,787 Speaker 5: the track in seventh, so and he was on par 84 00:04:17,947 --> 00:04:20,307 Speaker 5: with his teammate. And you know that's the thing is 85 00:04:20,347 --> 00:04:22,787 Speaker 5: you and I have talked about Piney that is that 86 00:04:23,147 --> 00:04:25,387 Speaker 5: the only person you really want to beat in a 87 00:04:25,507 --> 00:04:28,707 Speaker 5: race is your teammate, and he managed to do that. 88 00:04:30,107 --> 00:04:35,027 Speaker 5: Tomorrow night's race feature race loads more distance and he's starting, 89 00:04:35,707 --> 00:04:37,827 Speaker 5: you know, just be he's pretty much similar to where 90 00:04:37,827 --> 00:04:39,467 Speaker 5: he started in the sprint race. He'll have a lot 91 00:04:39,507 --> 00:04:43,667 Speaker 5: more time to manage the race and hopefully get through it. 92 00:04:43,707 --> 00:04:46,067 Speaker 5: And I think if it rains that that will change 93 00:04:46,067 --> 00:04:50,067 Speaker 5: the whole diy okay rain dion' the sprint race, but 94 00:04:50,107 --> 00:04:52,187 Speaker 5: it'll change the dynamics of it quite a bit. So 95 00:04:52,867 --> 00:04:56,147 Speaker 5: I reckon he'll go okay, Alex. 96 00:04:56,547 --> 00:04:59,467 Speaker 2: Are you seeing improvements? So he's been in the racing 97 00:04:59,467 --> 00:05:01,747 Speaker 2: Bulls car for what three or four Grand Prix? Now 98 00:05:02,307 --> 00:05:04,627 Speaker 2: are you seeing improvements? Are you seeing a lift in 99 00:05:04,707 --> 00:05:06,587 Speaker 2: confidence from Liam Law's. 100 00:05:06,707 --> 00:05:08,747 Speaker 4: Confidence is hard to say because you know, we don't 101 00:05:08,747 --> 00:05:11,587 Speaker 4: really get to speak to Liam during a Grand Prix weekend. 102 00:05:11,627 --> 00:05:13,387 Speaker 4: But in terms of the way he's been driving, if 103 00:05:13,427 --> 00:05:15,387 Speaker 4: you watch that practice session, remember this was the only 104 00:05:15,427 --> 00:05:17,947 Speaker 4: practice session that the drivers actually get for the weekend, 105 00:05:17,987 --> 00:05:20,067 Speaker 4: but every lap he betted his last lap, So it 106 00:05:20,107 --> 00:05:22,987 Speaker 4: is a track he's still learning. Remember, like the tricky 107 00:05:23,027 --> 00:05:24,987 Speaker 4: part of this first part of the season was there 108 00:05:24,987 --> 00:05:27,387 Speaker 4: are so many tracks that Liam just hadn't driven on before. 109 00:05:27,467 --> 00:05:29,347 Speaker 4: You So you think of Melbourne, you think of Shanghai, 110 00:05:29,387 --> 00:05:30,867 Speaker 4: and those were the two that he drove for red 111 00:05:30,867 --> 00:05:33,547 Speaker 4: Bull before he was unfortunately moved back to race more 112 00:05:33,547 --> 00:05:35,307 Speaker 4: was but those were the ones he'd never driven on before. 113 00:05:35,347 --> 00:05:38,547 Speaker 4: And then Miami's a similar one. So if that sprint 114 00:05:38,627 --> 00:05:40,987 Speaker 4: race just turns out to be another learning experience for him, 115 00:05:41,027 --> 00:05:43,627 Speaker 4: I think it will. Actually, as Eric pointed, to hold 116 00:05:43,667 --> 00:05:45,827 Speaker 4: him in good stead for a longer race. 117 00:05:47,187 --> 00:05:49,387 Speaker 2: Can I start with you aout At what point? Does 118 00:05:49,427 --> 00:05:52,747 Speaker 2: it it like he just needs points on the board, 119 00:05:52,827 --> 00:05:54,467 Speaker 2: right and these would have been points on the board 120 00:05:54,507 --> 00:05:57,747 Speaker 2: for him. Will it be, you know, something that just 121 00:05:57,787 --> 00:06:00,227 Speaker 2: sits on his shoulder there until he actually finally gets 122 00:06:00,227 --> 00:06:01,187 Speaker 2: some points on the board. 123 00:06:01,267 --> 00:06:03,627 Speaker 4: I think absolutely, Like every driver wants to be scoring points. 124 00:06:03,627 --> 00:06:05,427 Speaker 4: I also think a lot is being made of the 125 00:06:05,467 --> 00:06:07,987 Speaker 4: fact that this cars not scoring points because of how 126 00:06:08,027 --> 00:06:10,707 Speaker 4: well his teammate Isaac Hadjar is doing. Let's not forget 127 00:06:10,747 --> 00:06:13,027 Speaker 4: that this Racing Bolls team and this sort of car 128 00:06:13,067 --> 00:06:14,867 Speaker 4: set up only finished eight out of ten in the 129 00:06:14,907 --> 00:06:17,267 Speaker 4: Constructor's Championship last year. Like it's not a car that 130 00:06:17,307 --> 00:06:20,827 Speaker 4: will consistently challenge for points that will get the odd result. 131 00:06:21,067 --> 00:06:23,067 Speaker 4: But I think if you're going to judge Liam Lawson 132 00:06:23,227 --> 00:06:25,867 Speaker 4: based on scoring points every week and then you are 133 00:06:25,907 --> 00:06:27,347 Speaker 4: giving him or putting him on a bit of a 134 00:06:27,387 --> 00:06:28,027 Speaker 4: hiding to nothing. 135 00:06:28,987 --> 00:06:31,907 Speaker 2: So what should our realistic expectations be then, Erica, are 136 00:06:31,907 --> 00:06:33,827 Speaker 2: we are we in a situation where we should just 137 00:06:33,867 --> 00:06:36,667 Speaker 2: accept that Liam Lawson's going to finish in the teams 138 00:06:37,227 --> 00:06:38,067 Speaker 2: most of the time. 139 00:06:40,027 --> 00:06:45,107 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's and Challex's point absolutely right. The car is 140 00:06:45,147 --> 00:06:48,867 Speaker 5: not a rocket ship. It really isn't a race winning car, 141 00:06:49,547 --> 00:06:53,747 Speaker 5: but it doesn't mean that, you know, if all of 142 00:06:53,787 --> 00:06:55,987 Speaker 5: the cards fall the right way, that you can't actually 143 00:06:56,027 --> 00:06:59,507 Speaker 5: end up in the top ten. And Liam has scored 144 00:06:59,547 --> 00:07:01,467 Speaker 5: points in Formula One, you know, it's not as if 145 00:07:01,467 --> 00:07:04,267 Speaker 5: he doesn't know how to score points. Like last year 146 00:07:04,307 --> 00:07:07,187 Speaker 5: you proved you can score points. I just think it's 147 00:07:07,187 --> 00:07:11,627 Speaker 5: a bit like the tracks. He's not familiar with street circuit. 148 00:07:11,667 --> 00:07:13,907 Speaker 5: Basically they're racing in a car park, which is you know, 149 00:07:14,067 --> 00:07:16,907 Speaker 5: for anybody it's quite hard. But I think as the 150 00:07:16,907 --> 00:07:20,067 Speaker 5: season progresses, and I think if he gets towards the 151 00:07:20,507 --> 00:07:23,547 Speaker 5: summer break, the European summer break, he will have a 152 00:07:23,587 --> 00:07:25,667 Speaker 5: few points, and once he starts getting some points, I 153 00:07:25,667 --> 00:07:30,387 Speaker 5: think consistently, if he can finish between eighth and say 154 00:07:30,427 --> 00:07:35,187 Speaker 5: twelve consistently, the season will be quite a good result. 155 00:07:35,507 --> 00:07:39,507 Speaker 2: I think for Liam, Heyte, what if you offered if 156 00:07:39,547 --> 00:07:41,867 Speaker 2: you offered Liam, and this is hypothetical, if you offered 157 00:07:41,867 --> 00:07:45,627 Speaker 2: Liam points tomorrow morning or are better finished than Hadja, 158 00:07:45,747 --> 00:07:47,067 Speaker 2: which one do you think he would take? 159 00:07:48,307 --> 00:07:51,907 Speaker 5: I think a better result than Hadja. Having been in 160 00:07:52,027 --> 00:07:54,627 Speaker 5: competitive motorsport and my youth for many years, the thing 161 00:07:54,667 --> 00:07:56,507 Speaker 5: is if you can just stay, if you can get 162 00:07:56,507 --> 00:08:00,187 Speaker 5: ahead of your teammate, it's confidence building, it's you know, 163 00:08:00,307 --> 00:08:02,267 Speaker 5: it just bodes well. So I mean, I don't know 164 00:08:02,667 --> 00:08:04,387 Speaker 5: that that would be my call. If you can just 165 00:08:04,427 --> 00:08:05,347 Speaker 5: finish again a Hadger. 166 00:08:06,347 --> 00:08:09,107 Speaker 2: Do you think Liam Lawson's a better driver than Isaac 167 00:08:09,107 --> 00:08:10,427 Speaker 2: Hadjar and what you've seen. 168 00:08:10,587 --> 00:08:12,667 Speaker 4: Yeah, only because I've seen a lot more of Liam 169 00:08:12,707 --> 00:08:14,587 Speaker 4: than I have seen of Isaac Hadjer. But I think 170 00:08:14,627 --> 00:08:16,707 Speaker 4: the confidence really is as a shit, I'm like, we know, 171 00:08:16,867 --> 00:08:19,147 Speaker 4: like remember in Bahrain he did beat Hajjar on track, 172 00:08:19,427 --> 00:08:21,347 Speaker 4: but it was a couple of penalties that really put 173 00:08:21,427 --> 00:08:23,227 Speaker 4: him back. So it's not as though Hajar is just 174 00:08:23,227 --> 00:08:25,627 Speaker 4: completely blowing him out of the water. It's just that 175 00:08:25,667 --> 00:08:29,507 Speaker 4: Hagi has had a longer preseason in this car than 176 00:08:29,587 --> 00:08:31,787 Speaker 4: what Liam Lawson's had, and it will take him time 177 00:08:31,907 --> 00:08:33,707 Speaker 4: to catch up. But it's just how much time he 178 00:08:33,747 --> 00:08:34,427 Speaker 4: actually gets. 179 00:08:35,307 --> 00:08:37,907 Speaker 2: How's Yuki Sonoda going Alex in the in the Red 180 00:08:37,907 --> 00:08:38,307 Speaker 2: Bull car? 181 00:08:38,627 --> 00:08:41,107 Speaker 4: Not flash? He scored points? What a couple of races 182 00:08:41,147 --> 00:08:42,987 Speaker 4: ago he got ninth, but then he's had a DNF. 183 00:08:42,987 --> 00:08:46,307 Speaker 4: He's out a twelfth. He qualified in the bottom five 184 00:08:46,787 --> 00:08:49,827 Speaker 4: in the sprint race, which he was upgraded to. I 185 00:08:49,827 --> 00:08:51,267 Speaker 4: think he got a points finish after all the just 186 00:08:51,347 --> 00:08:53,867 Speaker 4: qualifications were put in, But he's not exactly pulling up 187 00:08:53,907 --> 00:08:56,107 Speaker 4: trees either. I think that Red Bull car continues to 188 00:08:56,147 --> 00:09:00,147 Speaker 4: be problematic for anyone who's not called Maxistappeny. 189 00:08:59,267 --> 00:09:02,707 Speaker 2: You'd agree, eat and look. We talked about the Constructor's 190 00:09:02,747 --> 00:09:04,827 Speaker 2: Championship and how important it is, and that's why they 191 00:09:04,827 --> 00:09:07,667 Speaker 2: made the change from Lawston to Sonoda. As Alex said, 192 00:09:07,667 --> 00:09:10,267 Speaker 2: he's not ready getting too many points either. Do we 193 00:09:10,347 --> 00:09:12,827 Speaker 2: just have to again except that Maxim Stephen's a bit 194 00:09:12,867 --> 00:09:14,507 Speaker 2: of a genius and not too many others can drive 195 00:09:14,507 --> 00:09:15,227 Speaker 2: this car. 196 00:09:15,947 --> 00:09:16,107 Speaker 3: Oh. 197 00:09:16,187 --> 00:09:19,267 Speaker 5: I think he's an absolute magician. Maxi Staffan, you know 198 00:09:19,507 --> 00:09:22,027 Speaker 5: that that pole rap he did for the main race, 199 00:09:22,067 --> 00:09:25,787 Speaker 5: for the future race was just like how against sort 200 00:09:25,827 --> 00:09:28,787 Speaker 5: of the two McLaren's and he just was just he 201 00:09:28,947 --> 00:09:32,427 Speaker 5: just seems to pull something out of the bag when 202 00:09:32,467 --> 00:09:36,347 Speaker 5: you just don't expect it. And you know, Yicki Sonodo's 203 00:09:36,387 --> 00:09:38,147 Speaker 5: like Alix says, you know, has picked up the odd 204 00:09:38,747 --> 00:09:44,147 Speaker 5: points so far, but there's a listening. There are headstones 205 00:09:44,227 --> 00:09:48,267 Speaker 5: in the graveyard of teammates to Maxi Stapan in that car. 206 00:09:48,507 --> 00:09:53,467 Speaker 5: It's just, you know, it's just weird that car. Alex. 207 00:09:53,507 --> 00:09:55,987 Speaker 2: Does it feel to you like the pressure has come off? 208 00:09:56,187 --> 00:09:58,427 Speaker 2: Liam Lawson? It's probably a silequition. He's not in the 209 00:09:58,427 --> 00:10:00,547 Speaker 2: Red Bull, but do you feel like there's still like 210 00:10:00,587 --> 00:10:03,427 Speaker 2: quite a harsh glare on him or not? 211 00:10:03,827 --> 00:10:04,267 Speaker 5: Absolutely. 212 00:10:04,307 --> 00:10:06,347 Speaker 4: I think any driver in those two Red Bull teams 213 00:10:06,467 --> 00:10:08,547 Speaker 4: will have pressure on them because the goal is to 214 00:10:08,667 --> 00:10:12,307 Speaker 4: get into Red Bull. Let's not forget Red Bulls driving 215 00:10:12,507 --> 00:10:14,227 Speaker 4: or the future of Red Bulls drive on. It's by 216 00:10:14,227 --> 00:10:17,227 Speaker 4: no means secure. There's doubts or speculation that max for 217 00:10:17,267 --> 00:10:19,227 Speaker 4: Stappand might actually call it and say he's had enough, 218 00:10:19,267 --> 00:10:22,107 Speaker 4: He's just had his first child, might he want to 219 00:10:22,147 --> 00:10:24,627 Speaker 4: step away, and then Sonoda might leave as well next year, 220 00:10:24,667 --> 00:10:26,907 Speaker 4: given that he's only with the team because Honda, the 221 00:10:26,907 --> 00:10:30,427 Speaker 4: engine supplier, have basically paid ten or sorry an eight 222 00:10:30,467 --> 00:10:32,667 Speaker 4: figure some to get him in there. So when they 223 00:10:32,747 --> 00:10:34,987 Speaker 4: leave next year, you could be looking at a space 224 00:10:35,067 --> 00:10:37,147 Speaker 4: where there are two seats available at Red Bull, and 225 00:10:37,187 --> 00:10:40,467 Speaker 4: if they are using that junior team the way it 226 00:10:40,467 --> 00:10:42,827 Speaker 4: should be used, then those two cars would be the 227 00:10:42,827 --> 00:10:44,707 Speaker 4: front runners to replace them. Whether or not that's how 228 00:10:44,707 --> 00:10:46,347 Speaker 4: it will go is to be seen. 229 00:10:47,267 --> 00:10:50,907 Speaker 2: On the grid and Miami E. T Lander Norris is 230 00:10:51,227 --> 00:10:53,707 Speaker 2: second on the grid. His McLaren team made oscar ps 231 00:10:53,787 --> 00:10:57,787 Speaker 2: three fourth. Are the McLaren's still the fastest cars? 232 00:10:59,027 --> 00:11:02,707 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there the benchmark. I mean, you know, like 233 00:11:03,747 --> 00:11:06,067 Speaker 5: looking at the history of Formula one, you know, some 234 00:11:06,147 --> 00:11:11,067 Speaker 5: tea means just have a time of dominance, and the 235 00:11:11,147 --> 00:11:14,627 Speaker 5: McLaren so far this year have really come into there 236 00:11:14,747 --> 00:11:17,507 Speaker 5: for and at the moment, I think it's quite interesting 237 00:11:17,547 --> 00:11:20,547 Speaker 5: watching how Norris and Pastri are not you know, they're 238 00:11:20,587 --> 00:11:24,627 Speaker 5: not hunting each other off, you know, which I'm finding 239 00:11:24,747 --> 00:11:27,667 Speaker 5: really interesting because normally at that level in history you 240 00:11:27,707 --> 00:11:30,827 Speaker 5: look at some of the battles between teammates and championship 241 00:11:30,827 --> 00:11:35,187 Speaker 5: winning Formula One teams, there's always argibarji, there's always sort 242 00:11:35,187 --> 00:11:37,787 Speaker 5: of just going to punt each other off and drive 243 00:11:37,827 --> 00:11:39,867 Speaker 5: into everything. And I think, I don't know how Zach 244 00:11:39,907 --> 00:11:41,987 Speaker 5: Brown is doing it, but he's managing those two young 245 00:11:42,027 --> 00:11:45,867 Speaker 5: guys extraordinarily well. And I think either one of those 246 00:11:45,907 --> 00:11:49,547 Speaker 5: guys well, they'll win the Manufacturer's Championship without without a doubt. 247 00:11:49,547 --> 00:11:52,427 Speaker 5: This year be interesting to see who wins the Driver's Championship. 248 00:11:52,507 --> 00:11:56,107 Speaker 2: Huh, all right, a prediction from you both to finish. 249 00:11:56,227 --> 00:11:59,387 Speaker 2: Liam Lawson starts fifteenth on the grid, Alex, I got 250 00:11:59,467 --> 00:12:01,747 Speaker 2: to you first, what's a good finish and where do 251 00:12:01,827 --> 00:12:03,107 Speaker 2: you think he'll finish? 252 00:12:03,227 --> 00:12:06,147 Speaker 4: I think anything and from tenth uputs would be a 253 00:12:06,147 --> 00:12:09,147 Speaker 4: great finish. I mean, I'll nail the cost of the 254 00:12:09,147 --> 00:12:11,067 Speaker 4: master there and think with a better weather and a 255 00:12:11,107 --> 00:12:13,947 Speaker 4: bit of a clever strategy, he'll get tenth, tenth. 256 00:12:13,987 --> 00:12:15,507 Speaker 2: There you go? All right? Et for you? 257 00:12:16,507 --> 00:12:20,307 Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty similar. I reckon ninth or tenth if they 258 00:12:20,387 --> 00:12:24,787 Speaker 5: get the strategy right for him, because sometimes racing bills 259 00:12:24,827 --> 00:12:26,867 Speaker 5: haven't quite got the strategy right with Liam. You know, 260 00:12:26,907 --> 00:12:29,027 Speaker 5: they've rolled the dice a couple of times in it 261 00:12:29,067 --> 00:12:32,107 Speaker 5: and it hasn't worked. So hope, hopefully if the weather 262 00:12:33,507 --> 00:12:36,147 Speaker 5: plays into the strategy and they roll the dice and 263 00:12:36,747 --> 00:12:39,067 Speaker 5: you know, double six comes up, I reckon he could 264 00:12:39,067 --> 00:12:41,027 Speaker 5: easily get into the points, all. 265 00:12:40,987 --> 00:12:43,067 Speaker 2: Right, A friendly time to watch the race thing about 266 00:12:43,067 --> 00:12:45,067 Speaker 2: eight o'clock tomorrow morning it gets under waste, so breakfast 267 00:12:45,147 --> 00:12:47,867 Speaker 2: time Formula one. Eric Thompson, Alex Powell, thank you so 268 00:12:47,987 --> 00:12:50,387 Speaker 2: much for both both of you for joining us and 269 00:12:50,627 --> 00:12:51,827 Speaker 2: lending us your expertise. 270 00:12:52,987 --> 00:12:54,947 Speaker 5: Boys a pleasure panic good on you guys. 271 00:12:55,027 --> 00:12:57,867 Speaker 2: Eric Thompson and Alex Powell read them both at inzidherld 272 00:12:57,867 --> 00:13:00,627 Speaker 2: dot co dot en zen. It is two twenty four 273 00:13:00,667 --> 00:13:03,547 Speaker 2: year racetime. Eight o'clock tomorrow morning is when they'll go. 274 00:13:03,627 --> 00:13:06,507 Speaker 2: Liam Lawson, We'll start from fifteenth on the grid. It's 275 00:13:06,547 --> 00:13:08,067 Speaker 2: hope we can make our way through the field. Let's 276 00:13:08,067 --> 00:13:09,387 Speaker 2: hope for a bit of rain from all the boys 277 00:13:09,387 --> 00:13:12,227 Speaker 2: for saying that might help him, and who knows those 278 00:13:12,267 --> 00:13:15,347 Speaker 2: first points might be in the offering in Miami tomorrow 279 00:13:15,347 --> 00:13:17,227 Speaker 2: morning around breakfast time, New Zealand. 280 00:13:17,227 --> 00:13:20,987 Speaker 1: Time for more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen 281 00:13:21,107 --> 00:13:24,347 Speaker 1: live to news Talk zed B Weekends from midday or 282 00:13:24,427 --> 00:13:26,347 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.