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Speaker 2: The only thing we need to share with you today

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Speaker 2: Sir Bob Jones. Have a great weekend, and we'll do

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 2: God after Noon, Welcome in Too Friday Show. I hope

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Speaker 2: you're doing well wherever you're listening in New Zealand. Get

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Speaker 2: a Maddie get a, Tyler, great, you're going to New Zealand's

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Speaker 3: Hey you how the however it is for you, whether

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thundery thundery thundery week? Yeah, yeah to say lightning knee.

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Speaker 2: You gave it a good crank though out there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: show for you today after three o'clock as we always

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Speaker 2: do on Friday, New Zealander of the Week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's right, Tyler, And you can have your say

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Speaker 2: Very fair as a nomination.

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Speaker 3: Fellows News of the Week would have to be Torrifano,

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Speaker 3: the Mayor of Wellington, for being the biggest fibit of

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Speaker 4: Do you go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, keep those nominations coming in, but he is clearly

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Speaker 2: chat to you about group travel. So it's on the

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Speaker 2: writer's name is En Peckham. He has been a solo

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, and you can do it at any age,

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Speaker 3: can't you. Becas there's the Kontickie tour approach to group travel.

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Speaker 3: Or you can go on a group trip with a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and gets steamed as well, if that's your thing.

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Speaker 2: Cause right now it's a chat about Princess Diana. A

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Speaker 3: All we do is here about politicians feelings, and it

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Speaker 3: So as she actually had a negative impact on the discourse.

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Speaker 3: And look, I'm looking forward to people really having a

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Speaker 2: And people, as Princess says, she was called in the UK.

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Speaker 3: But she was a very emotional person, especially if you

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Speaker 2: And was that a good thing? I mean, just on

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Speaker 2: It was pretty good. Actually, that was a good start.

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Speaker 3: Well that was her old queen voice. I declare before

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Speaker 2: Very good.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps maybe it was because it was the first time

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Speaker 2: looked at that and see it authentic. Nowadays, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Meghan Markle is the opposite of authentic. But when people

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but what about this from the Queen from

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Speaker 3: nineteen fifty three, Throughout all my life and with all

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Speaker 2: That's a beautiful quote.

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Speaker 3: That's what she did. She inmboted that no one knew

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Speaker 2: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 2: That'd be good afternoon. We're discussing the legacy of Princess

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Speaker 3: Well, as I was going to say, As as Diana

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Speaker 2: Yep, she was a rock for the people of Great Britain.

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Speaker 2: Oh one hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call, Glenn.

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Speaker 7: Oh thanks guys, thank you pretty and so forth.

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Speaker 4: Get locked up.

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Speaker 2: So it sounds like.

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Speaker 7: Well, when you're married to someone that's just so beautiful,

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Speaker 3: Okay, but just just bring it back to the topic

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Speaker 3: But do you think that that emotional response where we

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Speaker 7: Yeah, look, it's a pretty deep subject. But for me,

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Speaker 3: Isn't it kind of the queen's job to be a

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Speaker 7: Service society the queen as well, you know. But anyway,

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Speaker 7: it's a good subject, guys, A better go.

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Speaker 3: Is Glenn married? He sounds like a top bloke with

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Speaker 2: That's from He certainly didn't sound the same age as

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Speaker 3: That's from Christina. Is Christina married? It sounds like Glenn

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Speaker 2: We can do it a matchmakers.

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Speaker 2: Institutions are more open different sorry, institutions are more open

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Speaker 3: You've articulated my point. Well there, Tyler, that's what I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Oh, what one hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 3: Back to this business of our economic aims and chief

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, having a great discussion about the legacy of

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Speaker 2: Princess Diana. It is after a new book that is

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Speaker 2: the author and the book is called Diana World, an Obsession,

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Speaker 2: but it explores her lasting cultural impact and her populist influence.

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Speaker 2: But it does make the argument that Britain was forever

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you don't have to blame Diana for it,

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Speaker 3: but according to this, and it would seem to be

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Speaker 3: know not to say those things to them. I want

439
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Speaker 3: to know what's happening in their hearts and in their lives.

440
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Speaker 3: You want robots to lead you. The Queen was a robot.

441
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Speaker 3: She had no personality of her own. I want to

442
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Speaker 3: be led by people with a heart like Diana. And

443
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Speaker 3: of course you're going to text and say that they

444
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Speaker 3: didn't lead us, but but they are political figures. And

445
00:21:38,093 --> 00:21:40,973
Speaker 3: they did lead to more emotional behavior from other people.

446
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Speaker 4: Diana.

447
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Speaker 3: All right, so that person.

448
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Speaker 2: It's a detext. I could feel the emotion in that text.

449
00:21:45,773 --> 00:21:49,133
Speaker 2: I'm going to say. And this Texas says, at the

450
00:21:49,413 --> 00:21:52,893
Speaker 2: time the future queen had to be a virgin of

451
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Speaker 2: noble birth without any blemishes like affairs, which Camilla wasn't

452
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Speaker 2: at the time. Blame on hundred years one hundred years

453
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Speaker 2: of palace protocol. William told the palace snubs to get

454
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Speaker 2: stuffed when he married Kate, and they did. Steve from Tikowiti.

455
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Speaker 3: Well, it's funny say that, Steph from Tickerwitty, because I

456
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Speaker 3: would say that that William married the most queen like

457
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Speaker 3: royal for quite some time.

458
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Speaker 11: Yeah.

459
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Speaker 3: She may have been the daughter of a what was

460
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Speaker 3: it was, I think it was a pilot, was he?

461
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Speaker 2: No?

462
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Middleton's Yeah, So I don't know whether she

463
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Speaker 3: was a virgin or not. Absolutely. I don't think that's

464
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Speaker 3: that's that's the part that we necessarily want to keep

465
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Speaker 3: or focus on. But I would say that Kate Middleton

466
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Speaker 3: does seem to demonstrate that sort of stoic Queen Elizabeth

467
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Speaker 3: approach to being in public life, absolutely more than the

468
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Speaker 3: likes of Megan or Diana did, which is interesting that

469
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Speaker 3: William picked someone like Kate to be his partner, someone

470
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Speaker 3: who's very solid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's pretty stoic, but with a touch of Diana

472
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Speaker 2: in there. And Kate, I mean you see that with

473
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Speaker 2: some of the things that she does. But yeah, I

474
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Speaker 2: mean I think that balance between Kate and the Queen

475
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Speaker 2: should probably meet. Lean more to Queen Elizabeth hundred.

476
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Speaker 3: I can't believe you guys think that the Kings of

477
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Speaker 3: England were stoic. They were creeps. And Winston Churchill was

478
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Speaker 3: a drunk and had wild mood swings. Look at that

479
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Speaker 3: old weird Trump guy. He's a role. He uses Winston

480
00:23:29,333 --> 00:23:33,693
Speaker 3: Churchill as a royal model. Now, yeah, maybe Winston was.

481
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Speaker 3: Winston Churchill was a bit of a drunk here and

482
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Speaker 3: there and enjoyed a champagne or two, but in public

483
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Speaker 3: he was very powerful and strong. We shall meet them

484
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Speaker 3: on the beaches, yeah you know.

485
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Speaker 2: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

486
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Speaker 2: We've got headlines coming up, but we're keen to check

487
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Speaker 2: to you on this one. It is twenty sixty two.

488
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Speaker 12: You talk said the headlines with Blue Bubble taxis it's

489
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Speaker 12: no trouble with a blue bubble. The double murder trial

490
00:24:03,453 --> 00:24:05,693
Speaker 12: for a man accused of killing an Auckland couple in

491
00:24:05,693 --> 00:24:09,413
Speaker 12: their Elleslie home two years ago has been aborted before

492
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Speaker 12: any witnesses could be called. A new trial date will

493
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Speaker 12: be set. Building inspectors are out assessing around fifty flood

494
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Speaker 12: effect at homes in Selwyn. The district and christ Church

495
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Speaker 12: are in a state of emergency after record breaking down

496
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Speaker 12: Paul sparked widespread flooding, slips and road closures. Some homes

497
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Speaker 12: in Wellington may be without power until mid next week

498
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Speaker 12: after yesterday's extreme weather. Health New Zealand is rescheduling thousands

499
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Speaker 12: of planned procedures following yesterday's nationwide strike by senior doctors.

500
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Speaker 12: Health and union officials are meeting today to discuss possible

501
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Speaker 12: facilitation and karkapool have been heard booming in Wakato for

502
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Speaker 12: the first time in more than a century. Australia's bold

503
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Speaker 12: strategy may inspire New Zealand rugby policy shift. You can

504
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Speaker 12: see Gregor Paul's opinion at NZED Herald Premium. Now back

505
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Speaker 12: to Mattiethan Tyler Adams.

506
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Railean well there's been some accusations

507
00:25:06,213 --> 00:25:07,413
Speaker 2: flying on the text machine.

508
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Speaker 13: Man.

509
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Speaker 3: Yes, someone ca Elf from you Plumbers saying the mocking

510
00:25:11,533 --> 00:25:14,533
Speaker 3: of the late Queen by you Matt is beyond contempt.

511
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Speaker 11: Elf.

512
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Speaker 3: Are you even listening to the freaking show You're gonna

513
00:25:17,853 --> 00:25:21,453
Speaker 3: text nine to ninety two? Turn your freaking ears on, mate.

514
00:25:21,933 --> 00:25:23,973
Speaker 3: I've just been talking about how great the queen has

515
00:25:24,213 --> 00:25:25,413
Speaker 3: have I've been.

516
00:25:25,733 --> 00:25:28,813
Speaker 2: Stopped for the last half as talking out the queen

517
00:25:28,973 --> 00:25:31,493
Speaker 2: stick monarch and one of the best leaders we've have aired.

518
00:25:31,693 --> 00:25:35,053
Speaker 3: This absolute muppet from New Plumbers says the mocking of

519
00:25:35,093 --> 00:25:36,853
Speaker 3: the late queen is beyond contempt.

520
00:25:37,493 --> 00:25:39,693
Speaker 2: Truth, Elf, you and Matt would get on. You could

521
00:25:39,693 --> 00:25:41,373
Speaker 2: go over to beer and chat about how beautiful the

522
00:25:41,453 --> 00:25:44,333
Speaker 2: queen was because Matt is a massive fan of Queen Elizabeth.

523
00:25:44,373 --> 00:25:46,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I tell you what, I'm not a massive

524
00:25:46,413 --> 00:25:47,973
Speaker 3: fan of Elf from New Plumber.

525
00:25:48,293 --> 00:25:50,973
Speaker 2: Jesus, Mate, Come on, Elf, it's Friday, mate, just listen.

526
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Speaker 3: If you haven't heard, don't put that commenting. Have you

527
00:25:55,133 --> 00:25:57,173
Speaker 3: ever been listening anyway?

528
00:25:57,293 --> 00:25:58,013
Speaker 2: Anyway? Thank you?

529
00:25:58,053 --> 00:25:58,253
Speaker 4: Elf?

530
00:25:58,333 --> 00:25:58,533
Speaker 11: Yeah?

531
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Speaker 14: Wow?

532
00:25:59,213 --> 00:25:59,693
Speaker 2: Not thank you?

533
00:26:00,213 --> 00:26:01,933
Speaker 3: Um what a muppet?

534
00:26:02,853 --> 00:26:07,533
Speaker 2: It's god, Chris, Chris, you weren't a fan of Diana, No,

535
00:26:07,693 --> 00:26:08,093
Speaker 2: but I.

536
00:26:08,093 --> 00:26:11,453
Speaker 15: Wasn't in a call, so I'll keep this call. Call quick, gents.

537
00:26:11,453 --> 00:26:15,893
Speaker 15: I'm just about stinish lunch. What trigger in my call

538
00:26:15,933 --> 00:26:18,173
Speaker 15: was yet a gentleman on gosh, I can't remember his name,

539
00:26:18,213 --> 00:26:22,133
Speaker 15: but from what I understood, he was so anti Charles

540
00:26:22,173 --> 00:26:25,053
Speaker 15: based on purely if you had such a beautiful wife

541
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Speaker 15: as Diana, why would you do that? So that that

542
00:26:28,813 --> 00:26:32,093
Speaker 15: seemed to be the sort of, you know, the premise

543
00:26:32,133 --> 00:26:35,733
Speaker 15: of this sort of point of view. Now, I mean,

544
00:26:35,773 --> 00:26:38,613
Speaker 15: I don't particularly care about the Royals, you know, established stuff,

545
00:26:38,933 --> 00:26:42,653
Speaker 15: tuffy nose, stuffy, et cetera. But and I don't particularly

546
00:26:42,653 --> 00:26:47,373
Speaker 15: like Charles either. But he's not a bad person now

547
00:26:48,213 --> 00:26:52,053
Speaker 15: since Diana unfortunately passed away in that he doesn't he

548
00:26:52,133 --> 00:26:55,013
Speaker 15: not raise two children on his own, you know, they

549
00:26:55,093 --> 00:26:57,653
Speaker 15: turn up reasonably role. I mean, the troubles were sort

550
00:26:57,653 --> 00:27:00,253
Speaker 15: of happening. Now that's not really to do with him.

551
00:27:00,293 --> 00:27:03,613
Speaker 15: That's to do with their own intermarriage, you know, relationships whatever,

552
00:27:05,093 --> 00:27:07,613
Speaker 15: so you know, And I mean like Diana was not

553
00:27:07,893 --> 00:27:11,053
Speaker 15: she didn't said on cloud some sort of angelic bean,

554
00:27:11,573 --> 00:27:16,933
Speaker 15: you know. So I sort of remember the sort of

555
00:27:17,093 --> 00:27:20,093
Speaker 15: the psyche when Diana passed away, the hatred towards Charles

556
00:27:20,333 --> 00:27:24,173
Speaker 15: been all the stuff. You know, it's flightly embarrassing to

557
00:27:24,173 --> 00:27:26,493
Speaker 15: see the sort of behavior. You know, you actually got

558
00:27:26,533 --> 00:27:30,173
Speaker 15: to think about Diana again. No one's perfect, absolutely, but

559
00:27:30,253 --> 00:27:33,693
Speaker 15: she knew how she how to manipulate the media as well,

560
00:27:35,253 --> 00:27:36,973
Speaker 15: so she was put you know, she there was a

561
00:27:37,013 --> 00:27:39,573
Speaker 15: degree of expediency in her behavior as well.

562
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Speaker 3: I mean, even the way she did her makeup for

563
00:27:42,133 --> 00:27:46,213
Speaker 3: the Michael this Year interview, even though we know now

564
00:27:46,253 --> 00:27:47,373
Speaker 3: that there was a very dodge in here, was a

565
00:27:47,453 --> 00:27:50,733
Speaker 3: terrible human being, but that we know for a fact

566
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Speaker 3: that she said, make me a lot incredibly depressed in there.

567
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Speaker 15: And in a way actually I mean again don't really

568
00:27:58,293 --> 00:28:00,013
Speaker 15: have any type of charlds either, but I mean, if

569
00:28:00,013 --> 00:28:02,333
Speaker 15: you're going to be shallow about it and talking about beauty,

570
00:28:03,093 --> 00:28:06,893
Speaker 15: the fact that he chose Camilla and he's you know, that.

571
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Speaker 3: Could be argued to be a positive about a person

572
00:28:08,893 --> 00:28:11,813
Speaker 3: that so if you go, well, he chose someone because

573
00:28:12,013 --> 00:28:14,453
Speaker 3: he had a close connection to her and he saw

574
00:28:14,493 --> 00:28:17,773
Speaker 3: Camilla as his soul mate over someone that was arguably

575
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Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm not going to go and rate them.

576
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Speaker 3: Arguably bitter looking could be seen as strength of character.

577
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Speaker 3: Couldn't it Chris.

578
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Speaker 15: Yeah, but then you know sort of court of public

579
00:28:28,133 --> 00:28:32,213
Speaker 15: opinion and the sort of media and you know, tabloids

580
00:28:32,213 --> 00:28:33,853
Speaker 15: and all that kind of stuff that they don't focus

581
00:28:33,933 --> 00:28:36,013
Speaker 15: on that sort of thing. They focus on the sort

582
00:28:36,053 --> 00:28:38,693
Speaker 15: of aesthetic side of things, you know, and and and

583
00:28:38,333 --> 00:28:41,133
Speaker 15: what sort of scandal might sell and you know, and

584
00:28:41,173 --> 00:28:44,133
Speaker 15: then people people themselves can't rationalize it, so they just

585
00:28:44,253 --> 00:28:45,653
Speaker 15: end up believing.

586
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your call. What are you

587
00:28:49,133 --> 00:28:50,773
Speaker 3: having for lunch that you've just finished, Chris? If you

588
00:28:50,773 --> 00:28:51,853
Speaker 3: don't mind me asking.

589
00:28:52,733 --> 00:28:56,213
Speaker 15: Well, I'm in Wellington, so on a day like this,

590
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Speaker 15: I had stopped to the Colonel's. I've got a wicked.

591
00:28:59,573 --> 00:29:03,413
Speaker 2: Pack popcorn check it and wicked wings.

592
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Speaker 4: Did you say?

593
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Speaker 11: Yes?

594
00:29:04,933 --> 00:29:07,893
Speaker 2: I did, close to close to my heart, Chris, delicious,

595
00:29:08,493 --> 00:29:10,853
Speaker 2: so hungry right now I need in case you.

596
00:29:11,813 --> 00:29:13,653
Speaker 3: Have a great afternoon, Chris. Thanks for calling.

597
00:29:14,053 --> 00:29:16,093
Speaker 2: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

598
00:29:16,133 --> 00:29:19,093
Speaker 2: call Diana's legacy. Did she do a bit of a

599
00:29:19,133 --> 00:29:23,053
Speaker 2: disservice to how leaders operate? Sorry, you got to have

600
00:29:23,093 --> 00:29:23,653
Speaker 2: seen the text.

601
00:29:23,733 --> 00:29:25,413
Speaker 3: I know I was just someone saying, oh, I was

602
00:29:25,453 --> 00:29:27,133
Speaker 3: going to say this to Chris as well, but It's like,

603
00:29:27,173 --> 00:29:29,853
Speaker 3: I don't know if Charles strictly brought up his kids

604
00:29:29,893 --> 00:29:31,213
Speaker 3: on his own. I think he had a little bit

605
00:29:31,253 --> 00:29:33,253
Speaker 3: of help. Yeah, yeah, a lot of considering he has

606
00:29:33,253 --> 00:29:35,653
Speaker 3: helped just getting dressed in the morning. He's got his

607
00:29:35,693 --> 00:29:36,213
Speaker 3: own valet.

608
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Speaker 2: Exactly hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

609
00:29:39,053 --> 00:29:42,613
Speaker 2: It's eighteen to two. Have a chat with the.

610
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Speaker 1: Lads on eight hundred eighty ten eighty, Mad Heathen Tayler

611
00:29:46,093 --> 00:29:48,173
Speaker 1: Adams afternoons used talk.

612
00:29:48,053 --> 00:29:50,693
Speaker 2: Said, be good afternoon, it is quarter to two, and

613
00:29:50,733 --> 00:29:53,773
Speaker 2: having a good discussion about the legacy of Diana. It

614
00:29:53,853 --> 00:29:57,693
Speaker 2: has been not called into question, but somewhat challenged in

615
00:29:57,733 --> 00:30:00,293
Speaker 2: a new book out that's in sale in the UK

616
00:30:00,373 --> 00:30:01,893
Speaker 2: as we speak, called Diana World.

617
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Speaker 3: That's right. There's an accusation that it's sparked emotional popularism

618
00:30:05,973 --> 00:30:09,453
Speaker 3: that has been taken on by politicians to hide behind

619
00:30:09,013 --> 00:30:14,573
Speaker 3: a wall of emotions and use empathy as a weapon

620
00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:17,173
Speaker 3: to get away with thanks by just crying their way

621
00:30:18,013 --> 00:30:20,853
Speaker 3: out of what if a problem they get themselves into.

622
00:30:21,333 --> 00:30:24,133
Speaker 3: Doesn't mean Diana wasn't an awesome person. I mean she's

623
00:30:24,173 --> 00:30:29,693
Speaker 3: not responsible for the way people use her legacy. Welcome

624
00:30:29,693 --> 00:30:31,813
Speaker 3: to the show Mike, you've got a story about Diana.

625
00:30:32,813 --> 00:30:33,053
Speaker 7: I have.

626
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Speaker 13: I'm going back thirty years ago when I met my

627
00:30:35,453 --> 00:30:39,573
Speaker 13: wife's cuby Gill, and we were living in London and

628
00:30:39,613 --> 00:30:42,053
Speaker 13: her mother and father had some friends who were very

629
00:30:42,093 --> 00:30:44,813
Speaker 13: wealthy in Earle's Court in London, so the Asters would

630
00:30:44,853 --> 00:30:47,973
Speaker 13: be housed at the house for six months while they

631
00:30:47,973 --> 00:30:50,653
Speaker 13: came out to New Zealand her to escape the winter

632
00:30:50,733 --> 00:30:53,253
Speaker 13: over there. Anyway, we jumped at it as just like

633
00:30:53,293 --> 00:30:55,813
Speaker 13: a three bedroom, a three story house in the middle

634
00:30:55,813 --> 00:30:58,133
Speaker 13: of Shales Court. It was a way out of ours vam.

635
00:30:58,213 --> 00:31:01,293
Speaker 13: So we go in there and we take over the house.

636
00:31:02,773 --> 00:31:04,653
Speaker 13: The reason they wanted us to take it over, we

637
00:31:04,693 --> 00:31:06,173
Speaker 13: didn't get it at the end. It was such an

638
00:31:06,213 --> 00:31:09,773
Speaker 13: egotistical thing is that she had a maid who was

639
00:31:09,813 --> 00:31:13,973
Speaker 13: also Diana's maid part time, but we didn't know this. Anyway,

640
00:31:13,973 --> 00:31:15,213
Speaker 13: the maid comes in and we sued to have to

641
00:31:15,213 --> 00:31:18,293
Speaker 13: pay her twenty quick a week whatever it was, and

642
00:31:18,333 --> 00:31:21,893
Speaker 13: the name and the name of the lady was Lily. Now,

643
00:31:21,893 --> 00:31:24,093
Speaker 13: the funny thing was that I'm a musician, have played

644
00:31:24,093 --> 00:31:26,133
Speaker 13: guitar and play piano, and I'm in there and she

645
00:31:26,213 --> 00:31:28,093
Speaker 13: used to just come over to me all the time, Michael,

646
00:31:28,253 --> 00:31:30,293
Speaker 13: please come to the church. It was a Filipino lady

647
00:31:30,773 --> 00:31:33,813
Speaker 13: come to the church and play for us. And I

648
00:31:33,853 --> 00:31:35,813
Speaker 13: was like, not really, but I was always plugging, and

649
00:31:35,813 --> 00:31:38,013
Speaker 13: I was like, what's it like, you know, working for Diana.

650
00:31:38,053 --> 00:31:39,813
Speaker 13: It's like I can't tell you because of the official

651
00:31:39,853 --> 00:31:42,373
Speaker 13: secret sect and whatever else. But he had only job.

652
00:31:42,653 --> 00:31:44,693
Speaker 13: It's bizarre when you actually go into it and actually

653
00:31:44,773 --> 00:31:47,453
Speaker 13: understand it. Her only job was she'd go in the morning.

654
00:31:47,533 --> 00:31:50,173
Speaker 13: She'd opened the blind, pull the blanket back, and SAI,

655
00:31:50,213 --> 00:31:55,013
Speaker 13: good morning, your majesty. That was her job. Get it

656
00:31:55,133 --> 00:31:58,853
Speaker 13: gets more and more weird, but anyway, so that was

657
00:31:58,893 --> 00:32:00,373
Speaker 13: her job. And then she'd come and clean the house

658
00:32:00,413 --> 00:32:02,773
Speaker 13: twice a week. Now, over the period that we were there,

659
00:32:02,813 --> 00:32:05,013
Speaker 13: I actually became quite friendly with it, and she started

660
00:32:05,013 --> 00:32:08,133
Speaker 13: taking me into a confidence and every morning she said, Michael, please,

661
00:32:08,133 --> 00:32:10,413
Speaker 13: please played piano on the song, play play the gospel songs.

662
00:32:10,573 --> 00:32:13,813
Speaker 13: Played piano for her. And then one day she sat

663
00:32:13,853 --> 00:32:15,733
Speaker 13: down next to me and she turned around she said,

664
00:32:15,733 --> 00:32:18,333
Speaker 13: I want to tell you something about Diana, so I

665
00:32:18,373 --> 00:32:21,453
Speaker 13: see her go on, so the boss too. It was

666
00:32:21,613 --> 00:32:23,813
Speaker 13: one day she'd gone in there two years earlier. She

667
00:32:23,893 --> 00:32:26,653
Speaker 13: was crying and Diana said, Lily, Lily, whatever's the matter?

668
00:32:26,813 --> 00:32:29,653
Speaker 13: She said to, my mother is about to die. Within

669
00:32:29,813 --> 00:32:32,373
Speaker 13: sixteen hours, she was on a plane in business class

670
00:32:32,373 --> 00:32:36,093
Speaker 13: to the Philippines. Diana that organized that for her. Now,

671
00:32:36,613 --> 00:32:38,733
Speaker 13: anyone who'd done that, I thought, that's got to be

672
00:32:38,773 --> 00:32:39,373
Speaker 13: a good person.

673
00:32:39,773 --> 00:32:41,173
Speaker 3: Is a good person. I mean, she had the money

674
00:32:41,213 --> 00:32:42,933
Speaker 3: to do it, but she's but you have just have

675
00:32:43,053 --> 00:32:47,093
Speaker 3: the thought to do it. Is beautiful, isn't it so much?

676
00:32:47,613 --> 00:32:49,253
Speaker 3: Are you saying that you would have had the ability

677
00:32:49,293 --> 00:32:54,053
Speaker 3: if you're taking up the option to come and play

678
00:32:54,133 --> 00:32:55,653
Speaker 3: for Diana? What was the church?

679
00:32:56,733 --> 00:32:58,653
Speaker 13: No, I actually met Diana las long as it goes,

680
00:32:58,693 --> 00:33:01,413
Speaker 13: but that's a different story altogether. No, it wasn't that.

681
00:33:01,733 --> 00:33:03,893
Speaker 13: It's just that she became very friendly with me. She

682
00:33:03,973 --> 00:33:06,893
Speaker 13: started to tell me some really weird stuff. Now I

683
00:33:07,013 --> 00:33:09,933
Speaker 13: am actually a Royalist. I must be the only person

684
00:33:09,933 --> 00:33:14,533
Speaker 13: from the Blue Words, but I am. And she started

685
00:33:14,533 --> 00:33:17,053
Speaker 13: telling me things, and it changed my perception totally about

686
00:33:17,053 --> 00:33:21,373
Speaker 13: the royals. So, for an example, with Charles, if Charles

687
00:33:21,373 --> 00:33:23,493
Speaker 13: would walk into a room that he's walked into a

688
00:33:23,573 --> 00:33:26,653
Speaker 13: hundred times, and let's say a booth that was supposed

689
00:33:26,693 --> 00:33:28,373
Speaker 13: to be placed on the table was an inch either

690
00:33:28,493 --> 00:33:30,773
Speaker 13: side of where there should be. That person would be fired,

691
00:33:32,093 --> 00:33:34,493
Speaker 13: or a photograph wasn't exactly where they should be on

692
00:33:34,573 --> 00:33:37,813
Speaker 13: a table, or that person would be fired if it

693
00:33:38,013 --> 00:33:40,733
Speaker 13: was just anywhere that. So you can imagine, let me

694
00:33:40,773 --> 00:33:42,893
Speaker 13: time to go into a room, it's exactly how it

695
00:33:43,013 --> 00:33:46,053
Speaker 13: should be and nothing is out by the slicest milimeter.

696
00:33:46,373 --> 00:33:48,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's kind of like Mike hosking it and

697
00:33:48,293 --> 00:33:52,213
Speaker 3: news tucks. He'd be very much trying to get everyone

698
00:33:52,253 --> 00:33:54,773
Speaker 3: fired if they move his a little bits of CRUs

699
00:33:55,213 --> 00:33:56,613
Speaker 3: such as fody leaves lying around.

700
00:33:56,693 --> 00:34:00,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know where it is.

701
00:34:00,573 --> 00:34:04,333
Speaker 13: But it's really quite strange when you when when you

702
00:34:04,373 --> 00:34:07,093
Speaker 13: actually got into it. But the bottom line to what

703
00:34:07,173 --> 00:34:09,613
Speaker 13: I took from that, it was a beautiful thing that

704
00:34:09,652 --> 00:34:11,533
Speaker 13: Diana did. And about a year later, I used to

705
00:34:11,533 --> 00:34:14,413
Speaker 13: work in Chelsea and I'd gone into the office on

706
00:34:14,453 --> 00:34:16,692
Speaker 13: a Friday to drop my business off and just as

707
00:34:16,693 --> 00:34:18,733
Speaker 13: I got into the office, this guy walks in and

708
00:34:18,773 --> 00:34:21,173
Speaker 13: he must have been not six foot ten, and he

709
00:34:21,293 --> 00:34:23,493
Speaker 13: was built like the back end of the brickhouse. And

710
00:34:23,533 --> 00:34:24,893
Speaker 13: he come up and he turned. I said, do oh

711
00:34:25,013 --> 00:34:27,053
Speaker 13: was a card X y Z? And I said, I

712
00:34:27,173 --> 00:34:28,973
Speaker 13: to mine. He says move it, and I said, just

713
00:34:28,973 --> 00:34:30,253
Speaker 13: give me a minute, and he come up to me.

714
00:34:30,333 --> 00:34:32,413
Speaker 13: He just towered over and he said move it. So

715
00:34:32,493 --> 00:34:34,573
Speaker 13: I said, okay, So any I go downstairs with him

716
00:34:34,613 --> 00:34:36,692
Speaker 13: and mover. And it's Diane. She's waiting to get house.

717
00:34:36,693 --> 00:34:38,253
Speaker 13: She used to go to the gym above where I

718
00:34:38,293 --> 00:34:40,773
Speaker 13: used to work. So I said to her the story

719
00:34:40,773 --> 00:34:43,333
Speaker 13: about Lily, and I try towards you up moller. And

720
00:34:43,413 --> 00:34:46,373
Speaker 13: she was just so beautiful. She was truly a beautiful person,

721
00:34:46,413 --> 00:34:49,213
Speaker 13: I believe, because it's very easy to make someone very

722
00:34:49,253 --> 00:34:51,373
Speaker 13: beautiful through pr and the way he promote them and

723
00:34:51,413 --> 00:34:54,413
Speaker 13: all that and whatever else. But the way she actually

724
00:34:54,533 --> 00:34:56,933
Speaker 13: the way she came across, and it always stuck with

725
00:34:56,973 --> 00:34:59,293
Speaker 13: me what she did for this poor little Filipino lady

726
00:34:59,613 --> 00:35:01,333
Speaker 13: who was heart broken and she had on a plane.

727
00:35:01,413 --> 00:35:02,692
Speaker 13: I just thought that was a beautiful thing.

728
00:35:02,773 --> 00:35:03,053
Speaker 4: Really.

729
00:35:03,253 --> 00:35:05,613
Speaker 3: Yes, well, thank you so much for sharing your story.

730
00:35:05,693 --> 00:35:09,093
Speaker 2: Great stories. Yeah, I mean that is I mean, Mike

731
00:35:09,173 --> 00:35:11,693
Speaker 2: has been in that situation. But that is a compelling

732
00:35:11,813 --> 00:35:15,293
Speaker 2: argument for Diana, and some would say she was she

733
00:35:15,653 --> 00:35:17,653
Speaker 2: took a punt doing what she did, how she acted

734
00:35:17,693 --> 00:35:19,733
Speaker 2: in public and putting we're in her heart on a

735
00:35:19,773 --> 00:35:22,493
Speaker 2: sleep that was arguably quite a brave thing for her

736
00:35:22,533 --> 00:35:24,413
Speaker 2: to do, because she came under quite a bit of

737
00:35:24,453 --> 00:35:24,893
Speaker 2: stick for that.

738
00:35:25,173 --> 00:35:27,533
Speaker 3: That may be true, Tyler, but the argument isn't that.

739
00:35:27,573 --> 00:35:29,252
Speaker 3: The thing that's not being pushed forward here is whether

740
00:35:29,293 --> 00:35:32,172
Speaker 3: Diana was a good person or not. It is that

741
00:35:32,213 --> 00:35:36,293
Speaker 3: whether her emotional approach and look, everyone, no matter how

742
00:35:36,373 --> 00:35:39,173
Speaker 3: nice she was, would admit that she did use She

743
00:35:39,213 --> 00:35:42,573
Speaker 3: did emotionally manipulate people. That is well documented. Even the

744
00:35:42,573 --> 00:35:45,973
Speaker 3: biggest fans of evil say that. But that emotional public

745
00:35:46,173 --> 00:35:51,573
Speaker 3: response that she put out there affected and enabled other

746
00:35:51,653 --> 00:35:56,253
Speaker 3: people or empowered I guess other politicians going forward to

747
00:35:57,373 --> 00:36:00,212
Speaker 3: hide behind a wall of empathy as well. So when

748
00:36:00,213 --> 00:36:03,293
Speaker 3: something goes down, you just the waterworks come out, and

749
00:36:03,293 --> 00:36:04,733
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden you're allowed to hassle.

750
00:36:04,893 --> 00:36:06,693
Speaker 2: Oh on one hundred and eighty ten eighty, do you

751
00:36:06,733 --> 00:36:08,733
Speaker 2: agree or disagree? It is nine to two.

752
00:36:10,373 --> 00:36:13,933
Speaker 1: Matt heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

753
00:36:14,053 --> 00:36:18,173
Speaker 1: eighty it's mad Heathen Tyler Adams. Afternoons News Talk.

754
00:36:18,013 --> 00:36:23,293
Speaker 2: Said, news Talk said, Robin, very good afternoon to you.

755
00:36:23,333 --> 00:36:24,893
Speaker 2: How are you good?

756
00:36:24,973 --> 00:36:27,253
Speaker 16: Thank you? And I've been thinking about what I wanted

757
00:36:27,253 --> 00:36:30,173
Speaker 16: to say and it suddenly hit me that maybe Donald

758
00:36:30,253 --> 00:36:34,652
Speaker 16: Trump is the opposite and he didn't get that lesson.

759
00:36:36,573 --> 00:36:41,293
Speaker 3: Would say that, which particular lesson is that Robin, Sorry,

760
00:36:41,573 --> 00:36:44,813
Speaker 3: which particular lesson is that Robin empathy?

761
00:36:45,013 --> 00:36:48,373
Speaker 16: That he didn't learn how to be empathetic. So he's

762
00:36:48,413 --> 00:36:50,773
Speaker 16: almost opposite, isn't there, I'm going to do this, I'm

763
00:36:50,813 --> 00:36:52,173
Speaker 16: going to do that. I'm going to do that.

764
00:36:52,413 --> 00:36:55,133
Speaker 3: So you're saying like that, you're saying he's more like

765
00:36:56,253 --> 00:36:57,853
Speaker 3: you're saying Robin that he's more like the Queen.

766
00:36:57,893 --> 00:37:05,053
Speaker 16: Then no, no, he's opposite, extreme to empathetic. I would think, right.

767
00:37:04,933 --> 00:37:07,613
Speaker 3: No, but he but what he does, which is like

768
00:37:07,733 --> 00:37:12,533
Speaker 3: Diana shere his emotions and so you always know how

769
00:37:12,573 --> 00:37:15,973
Speaker 3: he feels about a particular issue. Whereas what we're kind

770
00:37:15,973 --> 00:37:17,853
Speaker 3: of saying is what the Queen did is she kept

771
00:37:17,893 --> 00:37:20,373
Speaker 3: all that behind and tried to be a rock for

772
00:37:21,573 --> 00:37:24,893
Speaker 3: her people. So what her personal emotions never came into play.

773
00:37:24,933 --> 00:37:28,333
Speaker 3: You never knew what they were. She was steady, you know,

774
00:37:28,453 --> 00:37:30,093
Speaker 3: she pledged to be that way, and she was that

775
00:37:30,133 --> 00:37:31,453
Speaker 3: way for seventy five years.

776
00:37:32,453 --> 00:37:35,813
Speaker 16: Thank you for explaining that. And so I will rephrase

777
00:37:36,013 --> 00:37:41,293
Speaker 16: and say that for me, I quite like somebody who

778
00:37:41,693 --> 00:37:45,853
Speaker 16: in you know, that's head of state or head of

779
00:37:46,853 --> 00:37:53,933
Speaker 16: Evan government, not to have not to be like that,

780
00:37:54,493 --> 00:37:58,253
Speaker 16: not to show their emotions all the time. It's times

781
00:37:58,293 --> 00:38:02,773
Speaker 16: where it is important to show emotions. Diana was a wife,

782
00:38:02,893 --> 00:38:06,373
Speaker 16: so that's that's the position. You can actually be like

783
00:38:06,453 --> 00:38:10,533
Speaker 16: that rather than be the one in control. But jas,

784
00:38:10,853 --> 00:38:13,652
Speaker 16: I think we shouldn't really judge. But I think it's

785
00:38:13,693 --> 00:38:16,013
Speaker 16: really wonderful that the person's brought out this book because

786
00:38:16,013 --> 00:38:18,813
Speaker 16: I don't think anybody's ever raised this question, and I

787
00:38:18,853 --> 00:38:20,813
Speaker 16: think it's a question that needs to be raised.

788
00:38:21,133 --> 00:38:22,573
Speaker 3: Oh well, thank you so much for you call Robin.

789
00:38:22,693 --> 00:38:26,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you very much. A couple of texts to finish, Guys,

790
00:38:26,773 --> 00:38:29,773
Speaker 2: we will never see the likes of Queen Elizabeth the

791
00:38:29,813 --> 00:38:34,253
Speaker 2: Ion again. The way media Watch mocked Mike Hosking for

792
00:38:34,333 --> 00:38:36,613
Speaker 2: crying on here when she died exposes them for the

793
00:38:36,613 --> 00:38:40,013
Speaker 2: solest people that they are. Give me a constitutional monarchy

794
00:38:40,133 --> 00:38:42,893
Speaker 2: over socialism any day of the week.

795
00:38:43,293 --> 00:38:45,373
Speaker 3: And this person says, hey, guys, I think Diana was

796
00:38:45,493 --> 00:38:48,253
Speaker 3: very manipulative person. She married into a family knowing Charles

797
00:38:48,293 --> 00:38:50,493
Speaker 3: was in love with Camilla, looks have nothing to do

798
00:38:50,573 --> 00:38:53,212
Speaker 3: with it. He loved Camilla and she loved him end

799
00:38:53,253 --> 00:38:56,493
Speaker 3: of it. And no, I don't think politicians should do

800
00:38:56,533 --> 00:38:58,533
Speaker 3: the sniveling and crying in public.

801
00:38:58,733 --> 00:39:02,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, very good discussion. Really enjoyed that. Right coming up

802
00:39:02,733 --> 00:39:06,293
Speaker 2: after the news at two o'clock, are we taking too

803
00:39:06,453 --> 00:39:10,893
Speaker 2: many things away from young members of our towns. We

804
00:39:10,933 --> 00:39:13,413
Speaker 2: want to have a chat about what they did in Napier.

805
00:39:13,493 --> 00:39:17,533
Speaker 2: They wanted to close the bars an hour earlier, but

806
00:39:17,693 --> 00:39:20,093
Speaker 2: they decided not to do that. But one counselor in

807
00:39:20,133 --> 00:39:23,013
Speaker 2: particular was pretty hot on the fact that they don't

808
00:39:23,013 --> 00:39:26,053
Speaker 2: seem to be catering for the younger members of towns

809
00:39:26,133 --> 00:39:27,973
Speaker 2: around New Zealand. So that is coming up by we

810
00:39:27,973 --> 00:39:29,652
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

811
00:39:29,653 --> 00:39:32,853
Speaker 2: call News, Sport and Weather on its way. We'll see

812
00:39:32,893 --> 00:39:42,053
Speaker 2: you on the other side News Talks. It'd be very

813
00:39:42,133 --> 00:39:44,613
Speaker 2: very good Afternoon View All afternoon.

814
00:39:44,893 --> 00:39:48,613
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk.

815
00:39:48,493 --> 00:39:54,813
Speaker 2: ZIB Good afternoon to you. Welcome into the show. So

816
00:39:55,173 --> 00:39:58,533
Speaker 2: we're going to get into a topic very very shortly,

817
00:39:58,573 --> 00:40:01,293
Speaker 2: the local alcohol policy and Napier they are going to

818
00:40:01,333 --> 00:40:04,333
Speaker 2: retain it at three a m. The bar closing times

819
00:40:04,373 --> 00:40:08,053
Speaker 2: after council reversal. So originally they looked to a c

820
00:40:08,733 --> 00:40:11,573
Speaker 2: those bars at two am instead of three am, but

821
00:40:11,733 --> 00:40:15,373
Speaker 2: after a passionate push by one of their councilors, Richard McGrath,

822
00:40:15,653 --> 00:40:17,373
Speaker 2: they are no longer going to do that, and he

823
00:40:17,413 --> 00:40:18,933
Speaker 2: had a great quote.

824
00:40:18,653 --> 00:40:21,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, And it just got me thinking about

825
00:40:21,053 --> 00:40:26,013
Speaker 3: the idea of morality and how currently all the virtue

826
00:40:26,173 --> 00:40:27,733
Speaker 3: is put in the hands of people that try and

827
00:40:27,773 --> 00:40:32,493
Speaker 3: shut down bars and close things early and put restrictions

828
00:40:32,573 --> 00:40:36,613
Speaker 3: on activities. But there is an argument that they are

829
00:40:36,613 --> 00:40:38,173
Speaker 3: not the good guys. And I just thought this was

830
00:40:38,213 --> 00:40:42,053
Speaker 3: a fantastic line from councilor Richard McGrath to his other

831
00:40:42,093 --> 00:40:46,213
Speaker 3: council people. The likes he goes. He looked around the

832
00:40:46,213 --> 00:40:48,693
Speaker 3: council table and making up his mind. The likes of

833
00:40:48,733 --> 00:40:51,172
Speaker 3: the three o'clock in the morning is for eighteen to

834
00:40:51,213 --> 00:40:53,293
Speaker 3: twenty five year olds and that is not us. He said.

835
00:40:53,813 --> 00:40:55,733
Speaker 3: There is only one place in aper open until three

836
00:40:55,773 --> 00:40:57,973
Speaker 3: am and offers a point of difference. You can actually

837
00:40:58,053 --> 00:41:01,173
Speaker 3: go and dance. Not my thing, but for plenty of

838
00:41:01,173 --> 00:41:04,053
Speaker 3: people it is. And perhaps if we go back far

839
00:41:04,213 --> 00:41:06,652
Speaker 3: enough around the table, for some dancing was a big

840
00:41:06,693 --> 00:41:09,093
Speaker 3: thing I'm not prepared to take that away from our

841
00:41:09,093 --> 00:41:11,613
Speaker 3: community who are growing up and doing their thing and

842
00:41:11,693 --> 00:41:13,772
Speaker 3: learning about the world. How are they going to learn

843
00:41:13,773 --> 00:41:16,493
Speaker 3: about the world sitting at home playing on a PlayStation.

844
00:41:17,413 --> 00:41:19,493
Speaker 3: And I just thought that was a really, really good point.

845
00:41:19,533 --> 00:41:23,853
Speaker 3: And anyone surely we know these things from the Footloose

846
00:41:24,013 --> 00:41:26,173
Speaker 3: movie from nineteen eighty four with Kimbo Bacon. It was

847
00:41:26,493 --> 00:41:31,173
Speaker 3: remade recently. Both movies are fantastic movies. But if you

848
00:41:31,173 --> 00:41:33,173
Speaker 3: are a small town and not look, Napier's not that

849
00:41:33,253 --> 00:41:36,693
Speaker 3: smaller town. It's a fantastic place. Napier, it's not the

850
00:41:36,733 --> 00:41:40,173
Speaker 3: biggest place. And it does struggle with the young people leaving.

851
00:41:40,893 --> 00:41:44,733
Speaker 3: So when you do make rules like they're closing bars early,

852
00:41:44,813 --> 00:41:47,493
Speaker 3: so there's so young people walk around and go there's

853
00:41:47,493 --> 00:41:49,732
Speaker 3: no nightlife here, there's nothing for me to do here.

854
00:41:49,773 --> 00:41:53,053
Speaker 3: There's no community here, there's no culture here. They up

855
00:41:53,093 --> 00:41:57,253
Speaker 3: sticks and move to other towns. Is it behoven? I

856
00:41:57,253 --> 00:42:02,133
Speaker 3: guess upon councils and people in charge to make sure

857
00:42:02,253 --> 00:42:05,773
Speaker 3: there are the things available for the young people to

858
00:42:05,853 --> 00:42:09,013
Speaker 3: do that they want to do, such as going out

859
00:42:09,013 --> 00:42:11,533
Speaker 3: to clubs to three am in the morning. Yeah, because

860
00:42:11,613 --> 00:42:14,733
Speaker 3: you know your hometown Nelson, for example, Tyler, you go

861
00:42:14,853 --> 00:42:17,413
Speaker 3: back there and nothing's open that late anymore, is it?

862
00:42:17,413 --> 00:42:20,613
Speaker 2: It's not the same because I think they reversed their decision.

863
00:42:20,613 --> 00:42:22,693
Speaker 2: They had it at three am when I was eighteen,

864
00:42:22,733 --> 00:42:25,093
Speaker 2: and that was great. That was so many people going out.

865
00:42:25,133 --> 00:42:26,893
Speaker 2: There was only about three or four bars, and there's

866
00:42:26,893 --> 00:42:30,133
Speaker 2: still actually a few of closed down Sadley. But then

867
00:42:30,373 --> 00:42:34,413
Speaker 2: the council decided to try and change that and reduced

868
00:42:34,413 --> 00:42:36,573
Speaker 2: it to two am. Then this idea about you know,

869
00:42:36,613 --> 00:42:39,053
Speaker 2: the lock and policy, and what they ended up doing

870
00:42:39,173 --> 00:42:41,453
Speaker 2: is it just started to kill the nightlife. The people

871
00:42:41,493 --> 00:42:44,093
Speaker 2: are Nelson and you go back now and it's dead.

872
00:42:44,253 --> 00:42:45,973
Speaker 2: Last time was in Nelson and I went out on

873
00:42:45,973 --> 00:42:47,773
Speaker 2: a Saturday night to say, I just wonder how the

874
00:42:47,773 --> 00:42:50,693
Speaker 2: old club street is doing these days, and there was

875
00:42:50,733 --> 00:42:51,373
Speaker 2: nothing going on.

876
00:42:51,493 --> 00:42:53,493
Speaker 3: And we're a tourist country, right, So it's not only

877
00:42:53,533 --> 00:42:54,933
Speaker 3: the locals that you don't want to leave the town,

878
00:42:54,973 --> 00:42:56,893
Speaker 3: the young people and you want to give them something

879
00:42:56,893 --> 00:43:00,093
Speaker 3: to do, but it's also tourists. Tourists come to New

880
00:43:00,173 --> 00:43:03,013
Speaker 3: Zealand they go there's absolutely nothing to do. Yeah, and

881
00:43:03,453 --> 00:43:06,453
Speaker 3: that's a really bad lock. It makes us look depressing,

882
00:43:06,573 --> 00:43:09,573
Speaker 3: So do we need to tell the skiddy's that they've

883
00:43:09,573 --> 00:43:12,252
Speaker 3: got it wrong more often. When you tell that more often,

884
00:43:12,333 --> 00:43:14,652
Speaker 3: and do what Nap has done and make sure there

885
00:43:14,733 --> 00:43:18,013
Speaker 3: is places that people can go and have fun. You

886
00:43:18,013 --> 00:43:21,093
Speaker 3: can always describe problems and use them to shut down

887
00:43:21,133 --> 00:43:23,613
Speaker 3: fun and freedom, but it doesn't always make you the

888
00:43:23,613 --> 00:43:26,573
Speaker 3: good guy. Yeah, as I say, wats foot loose?

889
00:43:26,693 --> 00:43:30,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can good the karality story. They canceled the dancing, Yeah,

890
00:43:32,373 --> 00:43:33,252
Speaker 2: we know how that ended.

891
00:43:33,573 --> 00:43:33,732
Speaker 11: Well.

892
00:43:33,733 --> 00:43:36,413
Speaker 3: It ended in a very aggressive dance and a factory

893
00:43:36,453 --> 00:43:38,453
Speaker 3: and a very very angry dance in a forest.

894
00:43:38,453 --> 00:43:41,333
Speaker 2: Great music name. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Do

895
00:43:41,533 --> 00:43:45,613
Speaker 2: councils have their younger members of their towns and cities

896
00:43:45,653 --> 00:43:49,093
Speaker 2: in mind? Or are they cutting things that are just

897
00:43:49,213 --> 00:43:50,893
Speaker 2: fun for younger people? Love to hear from you. Oh

898
00:43:50,973 --> 00:43:52,973
Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

899
00:43:53,173 --> 00:43:57,613
Speaker 2: It is ten PAS two.

900
00:43:56,533 --> 00:44:00,692
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk mad Heathan Tylor Adams afternoons

901
00:44:00,893 --> 00:44:04,133
Speaker 1: call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty Youth Talk ZEDB.

902
00:44:05,413 --> 00:44:09,573
Speaker 2: News Talk z B. It is thirteen past too.

903
00:44:12,413 --> 00:44:15,652
Speaker 1: This is newstalks'd be breaking news.

904
00:44:15,893 --> 00:44:20,453
Speaker 2: Yes and breaking news. Prominent businessman, author and former politician

905
00:44:20,733 --> 00:44:24,973
Speaker 2: Sir Robert Edward Jones, known as Sir Bob Jones, has

906
00:44:25,013 --> 00:44:27,853
Speaker 2: passed away. Eighty five year old. Sir Bob died at

907
00:44:27,853 --> 00:44:30,733
Speaker 2: home surrounded by family after a brief illness. That is

908
00:44:30,933 --> 00:44:32,373
Speaker 2: very sad and very big news.

909
00:44:32,533 --> 00:44:35,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is huge news. He's loomed large over New

910
00:44:35,213 --> 00:44:37,733
Speaker 3: Zealand society for a very very long time. Yeah, I

911
00:44:37,733 --> 00:44:40,573
Speaker 3: mean founder of New Zealand. First, of course, he's knighted

912
00:44:41,013 --> 00:44:45,853
Speaker 3: boxing enthusiast. Yeah, controversial figure. Yes, I believed in what

913
00:44:45,933 --> 00:44:47,813
Speaker 3: he believed in and stood up forty believed in.

914
00:44:47,813 --> 00:44:49,333
Speaker 2: Called a spade a spade as they say.

915
00:44:49,413 --> 00:44:51,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, big fan of smoking in his office for

916
00:44:51,773 --> 00:44:55,413
Speaker 3: a very long long time. Yeah, Bob Jones. So you

917
00:44:55,453 --> 00:44:57,253
Speaker 3: know one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Have you got

918
00:44:57,293 --> 00:44:59,893
Speaker 3: any thoughts on Bob Jones and his legacy?

919
00:44:59,973 --> 00:45:02,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, incredible legacy. So just repeating that Sir Bob Jones

920
00:45:02,893 --> 00:45:05,453
Speaker 2: passed away at the age of eighty five years old,

921
00:45:05,493 --> 00:45:07,573
Speaker 2: surrounded by family at his home. There'll be more to

922
00:45:07,613 --> 00:45:10,533
Speaker 2: come on that story as the afternoon progresses, but in

923
00:45:10,573 --> 00:45:13,093
Speaker 2: the meantime we'll go back to this particular topic that

924
00:45:13,133 --> 00:45:15,093
Speaker 2: we are talking about. It is on the back of

925
00:45:15,173 --> 00:45:19,573
Speaker 2: Napier deciding to reverse their proposed local alcohol policy. That

926
00:45:19,693 --> 00:45:23,293
Speaker 2: policy would have seen their bars close at two am

927
00:45:23,373 --> 00:45:26,293
Speaker 2: instead of three am. They've seen the light and decided

928
00:45:26,333 --> 00:45:29,533
Speaker 2: to keep it at three am. And it was one

929
00:45:29,613 --> 00:45:36,653
Speaker 2: particular quote from their counselor, their counselor rich McGrath, who said,

930
00:45:36,733 --> 00:45:39,533
Speaker 2: I quote, the likes of the three o'clock in the

931
00:45:39,573 --> 00:45:41,853
Speaker 2: morning is for eighteen to twenty five year olds and

932
00:45:41,973 --> 00:45:44,213
Speaker 2: that is not us. There's only one place in Napier

933
00:45:44,253 --> 00:45:47,013
Speaker 2: open till three am, and it offers a point of difference.

934
00:45:47,093 --> 00:45:49,333
Speaker 2: So love to hear your thoughts. Do councils actually look

935
00:45:49,373 --> 00:45:51,693
Speaker 2: after the younger members of these towns?

936
00:45:51,773 --> 00:45:51,973
Speaker 4: Yeah?

937
00:45:52,013 --> 00:45:53,933
Speaker 3: And on the Bob Jones thing, we'll try and get

938
00:45:53,973 --> 00:45:56,133
Speaker 3: hold of Barry Soper, who was a very good friend

939
00:45:56,173 --> 00:45:59,172
Speaker 3: of Bob Jones over many times and commentated on him

940
00:46:00,053 --> 00:46:01,013
Speaker 3: a lot over the years.

941
00:46:01,013 --> 00:46:03,453
Speaker 2: Obviously, Yep, we'll get to him very shortly. But in

942
00:46:03,493 --> 00:46:06,973
Speaker 2: the meantime, Ronder, you're a counselor in Napier, is that right?

943
00:46:07,813 --> 00:46:10,933
Speaker 2: I am good to chat with you. So you were

944
00:46:10,933 --> 00:46:13,772
Speaker 2: in this council meeting, you know your fellow councilor Richard

945
00:46:13,813 --> 00:46:14,652
Speaker 2: McGrath very well.

946
00:46:14,773 --> 00:46:17,653
Speaker 3: Were you four again, We were you four again two

947
00:46:17,693 --> 00:46:23,373
Speaker 3: pm two am or three pm, three am, four three pm,

948
00:46:23,413 --> 00:46:24,973
Speaker 3: three am.

949
00:46:25,053 --> 00:46:27,773
Speaker 17: Richard did a great speech, but he wasn't the only one.

950
00:46:28,093 --> 00:46:30,493
Speaker 17: It's just that they've picked up on one person's speech.

951
00:46:31,453 --> 00:46:35,973
Speaker 17: A lot of us spoke out about, particularly in my

952
00:46:36,013 --> 00:46:39,773
Speaker 17: point of view. I've brought up three boys who've managed

953
00:46:39,773 --> 00:46:43,773
Speaker 17: to make it to the twenties, thank god. And you know,

954
00:46:43,853 --> 00:46:48,413
Speaker 17: going out to local bars is much safer than going

955
00:46:48,493 --> 00:46:51,212
Speaker 17: to the parties that I have gone and picked them

956
00:46:51,293 --> 00:46:56,013
Speaker 17: up from. And that was that was a real probably

957
00:46:56,013 --> 00:46:59,373
Speaker 17: another really strong point that we did, that you're actually

958
00:46:59,413 --> 00:47:02,173
Speaker 17: our young ones, they're actually safer and a premise where

959
00:47:02,293 --> 00:47:05,093
Speaker 17: people looking out for them, watching out for them, the security,

960
00:47:05,293 --> 00:47:10,212
Speaker 17: then they are at a party with no control. So yeah,

961
00:47:10,253 --> 00:47:12,613
Speaker 17: I was totally for keeping it. I grew up here.

962
00:47:12,893 --> 00:47:15,213
Speaker 17: We used to have lots of night here in the

963
00:47:15,253 --> 00:47:18,613
Speaker 17: eighties and nineties. There was lots of fun, and why

964
00:47:18,653 --> 00:47:20,093
Speaker 17: should we take that away from us?

965
00:47:20,373 --> 00:47:24,853
Speaker 3: Do you think, yeah, does it lead to you know,

966
00:47:24,933 --> 00:47:28,093
Speaker 3: young people leaving your town? I mean, Nape is beautiful place,

967
00:47:28,253 --> 00:47:31,413
Speaker 3: fantastic area to live in, but you know, there might

968
00:47:31,453 --> 00:47:33,453
Speaker 3: be other opportunities in other cities. And if there's no

969
00:47:33,573 --> 00:47:36,173
Speaker 3: nightlife for the young people. Do you think that that

970
00:47:36,173 --> 00:47:38,733
Speaker 3: that's you know, a motivation for them to leave to

971
00:47:38,813 --> 00:47:39,773
Speaker 3: bigger places.

972
00:47:40,533 --> 00:47:43,413
Speaker 17: I think the kids leave because you know, kids do leave.

973
00:47:43,533 --> 00:47:46,652
Speaker 17: Or my boys are overseas at the moment. So we

974
00:47:46,733 --> 00:47:48,533
Speaker 17: don't have a university here. We have an e T

975
00:47:48,973 --> 00:47:52,252
Speaker 17: but which does keep some of our young ones here.

976
00:47:52,933 --> 00:47:55,933
Speaker 17: But you know it is they want to go and

977
00:47:55,973 --> 00:47:58,692
Speaker 17: see the big world and other places. Having a night

978
00:47:58,733 --> 00:48:02,652
Speaker 17: life is important, and you know, I think COVID has

979
00:48:02,733 --> 00:48:07,573
Speaker 17: really hurt that industry big time and obay, here our

980
00:48:07,613 --> 00:48:10,853
Speaker 17: hospitality struggling, and so why should we put restrictions on

981
00:48:10,893 --> 00:48:14,013
Speaker 17: them when you know we we need them to keep

982
00:48:14,053 --> 00:48:17,212
Speaker 17: going because I believe that, you know, the tourists will

983
00:48:17,213 --> 00:48:19,893
Speaker 17: come back and the fun will come back hopefully, and

984
00:48:19,933 --> 00:48:21,573
Speaker 17: the places need to be open for that to have.

985
00:48:22,173 --> 00:48:25,453
Speaker 3: And how lame does Hastings look now when they're closing earlier?

986
00:48:26,653 --> 00:48:28,893
Speaker 17: Well, it was one of the debates because they wanted

987
00:48:28,973 --> 00:48:31,333
Speaker 17: us to be the same, because we know we're quite

988
00:48:31,333 --> 00:48:34,933
Speaker 17: close together, but why should we be the same. It's

989
00:48:34,973 --> 00:48:37,773
Speaker 17: I just you know, I got voted on as an

990
00:48:37,773 --> 00:48:41,613
Speaker 17: acta city counselor, and that's what I stood up for so.

991
00:48:41,373 --> 00:48:48,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean, how many, to be brutally honest,

992
00:48:48,573 --> 00:48:51,733
Speaker 3: how many places are looking to stay open and they

993
00:48:51,773 --> 00:48:52,653
Speaker 3: fire to three a m.

994
00:48:53,453 --> 00:48:54,133
Speaker 17: There's only one?

995
00:48:55,333 --> 00:48:55,813
Speaker 2: You're right.

996
00:48:57,653 --> 00:48:58,253
Speaker 3: What's it called?

997
00:48:59,613 --> 00:49:03,453
Speaker 17: Well, the pub is called rocks Off. The nightclubs called

998
00:49:03,493 --> 00:49:05,533
Speaker 17: rocks out of the whale.

999
00:49:05,453 --> 00:49:05,533
Speaker 18: Like.

1000
00:49:07,053 --> 00:49:07,933
Speaker 3: Get your rocks off?

1001
00:49:08,773 --> 00:49:11,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, good names, yeah, good name. You know what you're

1002
00:49:11,013 --> 00:49:11,453
Speaker 2: going to get?

1003
00:49:11,653 --> 00:49:13,413
Speaker 3: What kind of music is it playing it? Get your

1004
00:49:13,493 --> 00:49:15,573
Speaker 3: rocks off? That sounds pretty old fashioned.

1005
00:49:16,493 --> 00:49:18,493
Speaker 17: To be fair. I haven't been there for a very

1006
00:49:18,493 --> 00:49:18,973
Speaker 17: long time.

1007
00:49:19,493 --> 00:49:21,573
Speaker 2: Oh it's clear, so yeah, it's.

1008
00:49:22,773 --> 00:49:26,933
Speaker 17: First we did so we did after his twenty first.

1009
00:49:26,973 --> 00:49:30,333
Speaker 17: But they play all the young ones music, although I

1010
00:49:30,373 --> 00:49:32,053
Speaker 17: know my boys tell me that when if they are

1011
00:49:32,093 --> 00:49:33,813
Speaker 17: home and they do go back there, they think it's

1012
00:49:33,813 --> 00:49:35,933
Speaker 17: the same music that they played when they were like

1013
00:49:36,133 --> 00:49:39,733
Speaker 17: you know aten, So yeah.

1014
00:49:38,533 --> 00:49:43,133
Speaker 3: Well, well good on you, because look, as people get older,

1015
00:49:43,373 --> 00:49:45,613
Speaker 3: they they you know, they they might have had fun

1016
00:49:45,613 --> 00:49:47,453
Speaker 3: when they're young, and they try and shut down the

1017
00:49:47,493 --> 00:49:50,053
Speaker 3: fun going forward to the young. As people get older,

1018
00:49:50,093 --> 00:49:52,813
Speaker 3: they look back and go, oh, these people, you know,

1019
00:49:53,933 --> 00:49:55,732
Speaker 3: it's like they've had their fun, but they don't. They're

1020
00:49:55,733 --> 00:49:57,493
Speaker 3: scared of other people having their fun. They're scared what

1021
00:49:57,493 --> 00:49:59,653
Speaker 3: they do. So I think I think people on councils

1022
00:49:59,693 --> 00:50:02,053
Speaker 3: need to go, Look, we've got a cada for everyone

1023
00:50:02,093 --> 00:50:04,973
Speaker 3: of all age groups, and we can't just listen to

1024
00:50:05,133 --> 00:50:07,053
Speaker 3: the wines and the skinny cats that try and shut

1025
00:50:07,093 --> 00:50:07,573
Speaker 3: everything down.

1026
00:50:08,173 --> 00:50:11,893
Speaker 17: Well totally, it's I mean, the local alcohol policy is

1027
00:50:11,933 --> 00:50:17,333
Speaker 17: about you know, alcohol is a huge problem in society,

1028
00:50:18,413 --> 00:50:21,893
Speaker 17: but this isn't the place that's causing it. And that's

1029
00:50:21,933 --> 00:50:25,812
Speaker 17: one of the big things. You know, there is lots

1030
00:50:25,813 --> 00:50:28,693
Speaker 17: of other you know, it was a real shame that

1031
00:50:28,773 --> 00:50:30,813
Speaker 17: the Department of Health didn't have the stats for us,

1032
00:50:30,813 --> 00:50:35,693
Speaker 17: so when people come into eds with you know, alcohol

1033
00:50:35,693 --> 00:50:38,893
Speaker 17: boys and alcohol issues, that they couldn't tell us whether

1034
00:50:38,893 --> 00:50:43,333
Speaker 17: it was from pubs, from parties, from where there have

1035
00:50:43,453 --> 00:50:45,533
Speaker 17: been because that would be a really good fact because

1036
00:50:45,613 --> 00:50:50,212
Speaker 17: I would I would bet it's from parties and socializing, not.

1037
00:50:50,333 --> 00:50:54,133
Speaker 3: This, I would I would agree. I would take that

1038
00:50:54,213 --> 00:50:55,933
Speaker 3: bet as well. And I'm saying, hey, thanks so much

1039
00:50:55,973 --> 00:50:57,013
Speaker 3: for and.

1040
00:50:59,173 --> 00:51:02,053
Speaker 17: Some house listening, and I went, I just it was

1041
00:51:02,093 --> 00:51:04,733
Speaker 17: more than just Richard a couple of good speeches.

1042
00:51:06,133 --> 00:51:08,453
Speaker 2: Thank you, sounds like a good counsel, Wonda, And the.

1043
00:51:08,493 --> 00:51:09,933
Speaker 3: Good decision has been made in my opinion.

1044
00:51:10,333 --> 00:51:14,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, good on you, good place, good counsel. There you go, right, decisions.

1045
00:51:13,773 --> 00:51:15,453
Speaker 3: Being made, a rare thing, a good council.

1046
00:51:15,573 --> 00:51:17,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Now we were going to carry this on.

1047
00:51:17,653 --> 00:51:19,893
Speaker 2: But of course, with that said, breaking news of Sir

1048
00:51:19,933 --> 00:51:22,413
Speaker 2: Bob Jones passing away at the age of eighty five,

1049
00:51:22,493 --> 00:51:23,453
Speaker 2: we want to transition.

1050
00:51:23,733 --> 00:51:26,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, And so we've managed to track down

1051
00:51:26,853 --> 00:51:30,213
Speaker 3: the great Barry Soaper, who has been a friend of

1052
00:51:30,373 --> 00:51:33,133
Speaker 3: Bob Jones for a very long time and covered him

1053
00:51:33,173 --> 00:51:35,453
Speaker 3: for a very long time as well. So we'll talk

1054
00:51:35,493 --> 00:51:39,453
Speaker 3: to Bob took to Barry Soaper about Bob Jones up next.

1055
00:51:39,533 --> 00:51:42,733
Speaker 2: Absolutely, but we also want to hear your thoughts about

1056
00:51:43,133 --> 00:51:45,933
Speaker 2: Sir Bob Jones's legacy. A lot of techs coming through

1057
00:51:46,253 --> 00:51:48,093
Speaker 2: at the moment. We want to hear your stories. Oh

1058
00:51:48,093 --> 00:51:50,493
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number call.

1059
00:51:50,453 --> 00:51:52,933
Speaker 3: And of course I must correct is everyone's texting through

1060
00:51:52,973 --> 00:51:55,093
Speaker 3: and the heat of the moment, I said he was

1061
00:51:55,093 --> 00:51:57,613
Speaker 3: the founder of New Zealand. First, I meant he was

1062
00:51:57,613 --> 00:52:00,732
Speaker 3: the founder of the New Zealand Party in nineteen eighty

1063
00:52:00,733 --> 00:52:04,533
Speaker 3: three and a protest against Robert Muldoon's National government. So yeah,

1064
00:52:04,573 --> 00:52:06,813
Speaker 3: of course, the founder of the New Zealand Party.

1065
00:52:07,733 --> 00:52:10,933
Speaker 2: He's not when some no, exactly there's twenty one past two.

1066
00:52:16,293 --> 00:52:19,733
Speaker 1: Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and

1067
00:52:19,733 --> 00:52:21,933
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk zby.

1068
00:52:22,373 --> 00:52:26,493
Speaker 2: Very good afternoon, So breaking news in the last fifteen minutes. Sad,

1069
00:52:26,533 --> 00:52:29,053
Speaker 2: breaking news that Sir Bob Jones has passed away at

1070
00:52:29,053 --> 00:52:31,373
Speaker 2: the age of eighty five. He passed away in his

1071
00:52:31,373 --> 00:52:34,533
Speaker 2: family home, surrounded by his family members. A man that

1072
00:52:34,613 --> 00:52:38,453
Speaker 2: knew Sir Bob Jones very well was our senior political correspondent,

1073
00:52:38,493 --> 00:52:43,333
Speaker 2: Barry Soaper, who joins us now. Barry, Good afternoon, Good afternoon.

1074
00:52:43,333 --> 00:52:46,653
Speaker 3: So, Barry, you knew Sir Bob both professionally and personally.

1075
00:52:48,133 --> 00:52:51,053
Speaker 11: Yes, very sad to hear of his death.

1076
00:52:51,933 --> 00:52:54,813
Speaker 18: We knew though for some weeks that he was ailing,

1077
00:52:55,533 --> 00:52:58,293
Speaker 18: and I talked to one of his daughters this morning,

1078
00:52:59,053 --> 00:53:03,613
Speaker 18: and you know, he at least died where he would

1079
00:53:03,693 --> 00:53:06,213
Speaker 18: have wanted to die, and that's in his home and

1080
00:53:06,253 --> 00:53:10,772
Speaker 18: Lower Hut, surrounded by his family. So for that, I'm

1081
00:53:10,773 --> 00:53:12,173
Speaker 18: sure Bob would appreciate.

1082
00:53:13,453 --> 00:53:15,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it all started for him in Lower Hut,

1083
00:53:15,573 --> 00:53:15,973
Speaker 3: didn't it.

1084
00:53:17,173 --> 00:53:19,733
Speaker 18: Well, it all started for him really when back in

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00:53:19,893 --> 00:53:24,573
Speaker 18: nine I and he was one of the original pupils

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00:53:24,653 --> 00:53:28,133
Speaker 18: at nine I School and went on, unlike most of

1087
00:53:28,173 --> 00:53:32,293
Speaker 18: the others, to the sixth form and then went to university,

1088
00:53:33,013 --> 00:53:35,613
Speaker 18: which was sort of almost unheard of in those days.

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00:53:36,013 --> 00:53:37,893
Speaker 11: But Bob, Bob was a.

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00:53:37,773 --> 00:53:42,453
Speaker 18: Man that never was one to toe anybody's line. And

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00:53:42,493 --> 00:53:45,013
Speaker 18: the thing that I liked about him, he was a

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00:53:45,053 --> 00:53:48,613
Speaker 18: person that always spoke his mind. And you know, I've

1093
00:53:48,653 --> 00:53:52,773
Speaker 18: been at many dues, been around many dinner tables, and

1094
00:53:52,853 --> 00:53:57,933
Speaker 18: had many conversations with Bob Jones, and the conversations that

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00:53:58,053 --> 00:54:01,133
Speaker 18: you treasure because you'll never forget them. Bob was a

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00:54:01,253 --> 00:54:07,053
Speaker 18: reverent he was you know, he was deliberately obnoxious at times.

1097
00:54:07,813 --> 00:54:10,573
Speaker 18: But for those of us who knew him well, we

1098
00:54:10,733 --> 00:54:13,733
Speaker 18: knew the cut of the man's cloth, and he was

1099
00:54:13,733 --> 00:54:15,293
Speaker 18: a thoroughly decent individual.

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00:54:15,973 --> 00:54:18,133
Speaker 3: Was he the same guy in private as he was

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00:54:18,173 --> 00:54:18,693
Speaker 3: in public?

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00:54:20,013 --> 00:54:21,133
Speaker 11: Oh? Pretty much so.

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00:54:21,613 --> 00:54:24,652
Speaker 18: I mean I remember when Bob reached seventy, he said

1104
00:54:24,653 --> 00:54:27,013
Speaker 18: to me, Locke, when you get to seventy, he said,

1105
00:54:27,413 --> 00:54:31,133
Speaker 18: speak your own bloody mind, because you know you're at

1106
00:54:31,173 --> 00:54:34,693
Speaker 18: an age that you're entitled to say what you think.

1107
00:54:35,093 --> 00:54:37,933
Speaker 18: And Bob I don't think it took him until he

1108
00:54:38,013 --> 00:54:42,573
Speaker 18: was seventy to say what he thought. He basically let

1109
00:54:42,613 --> 00:54:45,973
Speaker 18: you know how he thought. And to that end, of course,

1110
00:54:46,293 --> 00:54:50,093
Speaker 18: he let Muldoon, Rob Muldoon know in the early eighties

1111
00:54:50,133 --> 00:54:52,453
Speaker 18: how he thought. He went out and formed the New

1112
00:54:52,533 --> 00:54:57,773
Speaker 18: Zealand Party and collared twelve percent of the vote.

1113
00:54:58,133 --> 00:54:59,413
Speaker 11: Now you know it was the.

1114
00:55:01,173 --> 00:55:04,573
Speaker 18: Oh he would have been most unsuited as an MP.

1115
00:55:05,213 --> 00:55:08,173
Speaker 18: But nevertheless, in those days it was first past the post.

1116
00:55:08,453 --> 00:55:09,373
Speaker 11: But it saw the.

1117
00:55:09,373 --> 00:55:12,933
Speaker 18: End of Rob Muldoon and his government in the beginning

1118
00:55:13,413 --> 00:55:19,212
Speaker 18: of the Longy Labor government, whose policies under Rogernomics Bob

1119
00:55:19,293 --> 00:55:22,693
Speaker 18: Jones light. But you know when it came to Muldoon,

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00:55:23,533 --> 00:55:26,093
Speaker 18: even though there may have been enemies at one stage,

1121
00:55:26,333 --> 00:55:30,613
Speaker 18: it was Bob along with Audrey Young, who of course

1122
00:55:30,773 --> 00:55:34,413
Speaker 18: one of the senior correspondents for the Herald, her father

1123
00:55:34,973 --> 00:55:38,813
Speaker 18: being Young. They put on a fearwell dinner for Rob

1124
00:55:38,893 --> 00:55:42,733
Speaker 18: Muldoon in the Wellington Club and it was really the

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00:55:42,773 --> 00:55:44,173
Speaker 18: most wonderful occasion.

1126
00:55:44,773 --> 00:55:47,893
Speaker 11: And Muldourn I had a radio show in those days.

1127
00:55:47,613 --> 00:55:50,893
Speaker 18: In the morning, and muldourn and Bob Jones came on

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00:55:50,933 --> 00:55:54,172
Speaker 18: the show the morning after the dinner, Bob was traditionally

1129
00:55:54,253 --> 00:55:58,293
Speaker 18: running late, arrived there during the ad break, but Muldoon

1130
00:55:58,453 --> 00:56:01,293
Speaker 18: was there and it's the first time I've ever seen

1131
00:56:01,813 --> 00:56:08,253
Speaker 18: Muldoon cry, and he cried over gratitude for Bob Jones

1132
00:56:08,613 --> 00:56:11,573
Speaker 18: and maybe how they should never have had a falling

1133
00:56:11,573 --> 00:56:12,533
Speaker 18: out in the first place.

1134
00:56:13,013 --> 00:56:13,293
Speaker 1: Wow.

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00:56:13,373 --> 00:56:15,493
Speaker 3: There are some great Bob Jones stories over the years

1136
00:56:15,533 --> 00:56:19,853
Speaker 3: and some great wounds around the eighty four election. Anyone's

1137
00:56:20,053 --> 00:56:22,333
Speaker 3: specific ones that you can remember around that time.

1138
00:56:23,613 --> 00:56:27,453
Speaker 18: Well, I remember the foundation of the New Zealand Party

1139
00:56:28,053 --> 00:56:33,813
Speaker 18: and it was a wonderful for the media because the

1140
00:56:33,853 --> 00:56:35,933
Speaker 18: media I don't think I've ever been locked after as

1141
00:56:35,933 --> 00:56:40,213
Speaker 18: well at any political conference that the wine and the

1142
00:56:40,213 --> 00:56:42,493
Speaker 18: beer flowed throughout the conference.

1143
00:56:42,533 --> 00:56:44,253
Speaker 11: The food was sublime.

1144
00:56:44,453 --> 00:56:48,093
Speaker 18: So Bob really knew how to look after the media,

1145
00:56:48,213 --> 00:56:52,293
Speaker 18: even though he got frustrated with the media very much.

1146
00:56:52,133 --> 00:56:53,373
Speaker 11: So from time to time.

1147
00:56:53,853 --> 00:56:56,453
Speaker 18: But when it came when it came to the election,

1148
00:56:57,613 --> 00:57:01,493
Speaker 18: you know, Bob was in his element and he spoke

1149
00:57:02,333 --> 00:57:06,413
Speaker 18: when he was on stage very quietly for him and

1150
00:57:06,493 --> 00:57:10,772
Speaker 18: quite deliberately, a man who got his message across, and

1151
00:57:11,133 --> 00:57:15,093
Speaker 18: no one left any meeting not understanding what Bob Jones meant.

1152
00:57:15,293 --> 00:57:17,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a great story and you can maybe

1153
00:57:17,933 --> 00:57:19,933
Speaker 3: confirm or deny this, but it was on the way

1154
00:57:19,973 --> 00:57:22,613
Speaker 3: to a television debate and Bob Jones was going to

1155
00:57:22,653 --> 00:57:27,853
Speaker 3: debate David Longi and Rob Muldoon And as he was

1156
00:57:27,893 --> 00:57:30,693
Speaker 3: being driven in, Bob Jones noticed that he was had

1157
00:57:30,693 --> 00:57:33,973
Speaker 3: pulled up beside the car of Rob Muldoon and for

1158
00:57:34,013 --> 00:57:35,973
Speaker 3: a joke, he got his driver to give it a

1159
00:57:35,973 --> 00:57:39,173
Speaker 3: little bang. He got us drive to turn into it

1160
00:57:39,173 --> 00:57:41,573
Speaker 3: and give it a little bang and then drove off.

1161
00:57:41,973 --> 00:57:43,173
Speaker 3: Do you know if that's true.

1162
00:57:44,053 --> 00:57:47,693
Speaker 18: Well, I've heard the story, but look, I would have

1163
00:57:47,813 --> 00:57:51,453
Speaker 18: my doubts about it because it will have been an LTD.

1164
00:57:52,053 --> 00:57:55,453
Speaker 11: In those days that Muldoon cohorts.

1165
00:57:55,453 --> 00:57:59,293
Speaker 18: She used to get around it, and they were revered cards,

1166
00:57:59,653 --> 00:58:02,213
Speaker 18: and I think it would take even somebody bigger than

1167
00:58:02,253 --> 00:58:05,373
Speaker 18: Bob Jones to nudge one of those cars.

1168
00:58:05,493 --> 00:58:09,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had obviously a competitive public image Bowie, but

1169
00:58:09,453 --> 00:58:11,933
Speaker 2: also a wicked sense of humor. But from what you're saying,

1170
00:58:11,973 --> 00:58:14,133
Speaker 2: it sounds like he didn't hold a grudge if he

1171
00:58:14,213 --> 00:58:14,973
Speaker 2: if he could help it.

1172
00:58:16,253 --> 00:58:17,053
Speaker 11: No, he didn't.

1173
00:58:17,253 --> 00:58:20,493
Speaker 18: Actually some people that he held a grudge for, but

1174
00:58:21,373 --> 00:58:27,173
Speaker 18: probably the ones that he have grudges were fairly deserved,

1175
00:58:27,213 --> 00:58:31,213
Speaker 18: I would imagine. But no, Bob was not unlike dare

1176
00:58:31,213 --> 00:58:34,453
Speaker 18: I say it another old mate who's in politics, Winston Peters.

1177
00:58:34,853 --> 00:58:38,413
Speaker 18: That Peters and I have had, you would have to say,

1178
00:58:38,613 --> 00:58:44,653
Speaker 18: a volatile relationship over the years. But Bob, like Winston Peters,

1179
00:58:45,133 --> 00:58:50,893
Speaker 18: they generally wouldn't hold grudges and would get over things.

1180
00:58:50,973 --> 00:58:54,293
Speaker 18: And Bob was very like that. He wrote a very

1181
00:58:54,293 --> 00:58:57,613
Speaker 18: good column He used to write very good columns up

1182
00:58:57,693 --> 00:59:02,693
Speaker 18: until relatively recently online and that was rather ironic in itself.

1183
00:59:03,013 --> 00:59:07,893
Speaker 18: And that Bob he never liked much to do with

1184
00:59:08,013 --> 00:59:10,893
Speaker 18: teak And if you were at a dinner table with

1185
00:59:10,973 --> 00:59:13,853
Speaker 18: him with a cell phone, the likelihood is that the

1186
00:59:13,893 --> 00:59:15,893
Speaker 18: cell phone would end up on the water.

1187
00:59:16,053 --> 00:59:17,933
Speaker 11: Joe. He hated them so much.

1188
00:59:18,573 --> 00:59:21,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, he once reached out to me though by an email,

1189
00:59:21,613 --> 00:59:23,573
Speaker 3: to complain about my grammar and an article I wrote

1190
00:59:23,573 --> 00:59:27,653
Speaker 3: for the Herald. So he was very very staunch on grammar.

1191
00:59:27,973 --> 00:59:30,653
Speaker 3: So you know, one of the most famous instants in

1192
00:59:31,333 --> 00:59:35,253
Speaker 3: his in his legacy, I guess, is the Rod Vaughan situation.

1193
00:59:36,493 --> 00:59:39,493
Speaker 3: How do you remember that going down back in the day.

1194
00:59:40,413 --> 00:59:44,093
Speaker 18: Well, I remember when Bob was he was convicted of

1195
00:59:44,093 --> 00:59:47,773
Speaker 18: assault for it. And find two thousand dollars, and he

1196
00:59:47,853 --> 00:59:50,573
Speaker 18: said to the judge, can I pay another two thousand

1197
00:59:50,653 --> 00:59:51,933
Speaker 18: dollars and do it over again?

1198
00:59:53,493 --> 00:59:55,533
Speaker 2: Of course, you know, great sad to hear.

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00:59:55,573 --> 00:59:57,173
Speaker 11: I don't know what the judge thought if he didn't

1200
00:59:57,173 --> 00:59:59,173
Speaker 11: allow him. It didn't allow him to pay it.

1201
00:59:59,213 --> 01:00:05,453
Speaker 18: But no, again, it'll be interesting if Vard was around,

1202
01:00:06,173 --> 01:00:10,453
Speaker 18: which I don't think he is unfortunately, but he and

1203
01:00:10,493 --> 01:00:14,413
Speaker 18: Bob probably I would imagined and patched things up. Bob

1204
01:00:14,573 --> 01:00:19,973
Speaker 18: was really hosed off about his fishing spot, upset by

1205
01:00:20,013 --> 01:00:22,813
Speaker 18: the blades of a helicopter and that's what really pissed

1206
01:00:22,853 --> 01:00:25,813
Speaker 18: him off, and that's why he said upon the journalist.

1207
01:00:26,013 --> 01:00:28,773
Speaker 3: Well, he was a huge boxing enthusiast, Sir Bob Jones,

1208
01:00:28,853 --> 01:00:32,293
Speaker 3: wasn't he? And that punch did actually break Rodvaughn's nose,

1209
01:00:32,333 --> 01:00:35,053
Speaker 3: so obviously had some skills. So that was a lifelong

1210
01:00:35,693 --> 01:00:39,413
Speaker 3: love and he was involved and Joseph Parker early on

1211
01:00:39,893 --> 01:00:41,133
Speaker 3: as well, wasn't he Bob Jones?

1212
01:00:41,213 --> 01:00:45,213
Speaker 18: Yes, Well, he started boxing when he was at university,

1213
01:00:45,853 --> 01:00:51,453
Speaker 18: and indeed he was the university lightweight boxing champion I

1214
01:00:51,453 --> 01:00:53,333
Speaker 18: think for a number of years.

1215
01:00:53,733 --> 01:00:56,453
Speaker 11: So he was very deaft with his fists. There's no

1216
01:00:56,453 --> 01:00:57,053
Speaker 11: doubt about that.

1217
01:00:57,173 --> 01:00:59,573
Speaker 18: But the only time he used them, as to my

1218
01:00:59,733 --> 01:01:04,053
Speaker 18: knowledge and anger, was against Rod Vaughan on that fateful day.

1219
01:01:04,053 --> 01:01:07,973
Speaker 3: And to Rangie, yes, So if you could, and putting

1220
01:01:07,973 --> 01:01:10,413
Speaker 3: on this bot here, you know, sum up your thoughts

1221
01:01:10,533 --> 01:01:14,893
Speaker 3: on Sir Bob Jones, you know, personally and publicly in

1222
01:01:14,933 --> 01:01:17,213
Speaker 3: a couple of sentences, that would be awesome.

1223
01:01:17,933 --> 01:01:18,293
Speaker 4: Barry.

1224
01:01:19,613 --> 01:01:23,093
Speaker 18: Well, I'm very sadden that Bob is no longer around

1225
01:01:23,093 --> 01:01:27,893
Speaker 18: because he was a character plus and a very enjoyable

1226
01:01:27,973 --> 01:01:32,093
Speaker 18: company A laugh a minute, and I think the world

1227
01:01:32,133 --> 01:01:36,013
Speaker 18: won't be quite the same, certainly for me, without Bob

1228
01:01:36,093 --> 01:01:36,933
Speaker 18: Jones being in it.

1229
01:01:37,253 --> 01:01:40,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, Barry, thank you very much for having a chat

1230
01:01:40,093 --> 01:01:42,773
Speaker 2: with us. Really appreciate it, and we'll catch up again soon.

1231
01:01:43,973 --> 01:01:45,173
Speaker 11: It's my pleasure. Chairs.

1232
01:01:45,333 --> 01:01:48,173
Speaker 2: That is News Talks the b senior political correspondent of course,

1233
01:01:48,173 --> 01:01:50,693
Speaker 2: Barry Soaper and a close friend of Sir Bob. We

1234
01:01:50,693 --> 01:01:53,213
Speaker 2: want to hear from you about your memories of Sir

1235
01:01:53,253 --> 01:01:55,733
Speaker 2: Bob Jones. Sadley passed away today at the age of

1236
01:01:55,773 --> 01:01:58,213
Speaker 2: eighty five. And if you want to send a teacher,

1237
01:01:58,213 --> 01:02:00,093
Speaker 2: more than welcome nine to nine two. But the number

1238
01:02:00,213 --> 01:02:03,213
Speaker 2: is eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. It is twenty

1239
01:02:03,253 --> 01:02:03,573
Speaker 2: seven to.

1240
01:02:03,613 --> 01:02:08,733
Speaker 1: Three news talks'd be headline.

1241
01:02:08,453 --> 01:02:11,693
Speaker 12: With blue bubble taxis It's no trouble with a blue bubble.

1242
01:02:12,093 --> 01:02:16,733
Speaker 12: Prominent businessman, author and former politician, Sir Robert Edward Jones,

1243
01:02:17,093 --> 01:02:19,253
Speaker 12: better known as Sir Bob Jones.

1244
01:02:19,053 --> 01:02:19,653
Speaker 3: Has died.

1245
01:02:20,173 --> 01:02:23,093
Speaker 12: The eighty five year old died peacefully at his Wellington home,

1246
01:02:23,173 --> 01:02:27,533
Speaker 12: surrounded by family after a brief illness. The double murder

1247
01:02:27,573 --> 01:02:29,973
Speaker 12: trial for a man accused of killing an Auckland couple

1248
01:02:30,013 --> 01:02:33,333
Speaker 12: in their Allesley home two years ago has been aborted

1249
01:02:33,573 --> 01:02:36,733
Speaker 12: before any witnesses could be called. A new trial date

1250
01:02:36,813 --> 01:02:40,573
Speaker 12: will be set. Brighter and drier days lie head for

1251
01:02:40,573 --> 01:02:44,853
Speaker 12: the weekend after wild weather battered the country yesterday Met Services.

1252
01:02:44,893 --> 01:02:47,573
Speaker 12: Most of the severe weather warnings have been lifted but

1253
01:02:47,693 --> 01:02:50,693
Speaker 12: wided up. It could be in heavy rain this afternoon.

1254
01:02:51,173 --> 01:02:54,813
Speaker 12: Christ Church and Selwyn districts remain under a state of emergency.

1255
01:02:55,533 --> 01:02:58,333
Speaker 12: State Highway One through the Mungamuka Gorge just south of

1256
01:02:58,413 --> 01:03:03,533
Speaker 12: Kaitire has reopened after a slip on Tuesday. Westpac Banks

1257
01:03:03,573 --> 01:03:06,533
Speaker 12: been fined more than three million dollars after twenty four

1258
01:03:06,573 --> 01:03:12,173
Speaker 12: thousand people were misled and overcharged. Antibiotics can derail your

1259
01:03:12,213 --> 01:03:14,533
Speaker 12: gut health, find out how to get it back on

1260
01:03:14,653 --> 01:03:17,253
Speaker 12: track at end Zen Herald Premium. Back now to matt

1261
01:03:17,293 --> 01:03:18,333
Speaker 12: Ethan Tyler Adams.

1262
01:03:18,333 --> 01:03:20,373
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we're talking about your

1263
01:03:20,413 --> 01:03:22,453
Speaker 2: memories of Sir Bob Jones. He has passed away at

1264
01:03:22,493 --> 01:03:25,213
Speaker 2: the age of eighty five, surrounded by family at his

1265
01:03:25,333 --> 01:03:28,813
Speaker 2: home in Wellington. But keen to hear your stories about

1266
01:03:28,853 --> 01:03:31,893
Speaker 2: Sir Bob Jones, an absolute icon in New Zealand and

1267
01:03:31,973 --> 01:03:34,293
Speaker 2: leaves behind an incredible legacy.

1268
01:03:34,413 --> 01:03:38,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, a willfully controversial figure that always spoke his mind.

1269
01:03:38,773 --> 01:03:41,613
Speaker 3: Sir Bob wasn't above taking time to talk to the

1270
01:03:41,653 --> 01:03:44,733
Speaker 3: tradesman that worked for him. He would remember your name.

1271
01:03:45,053 --> 01:03:45,933
Speaker 3: I was his plumber.

1272
01:03:46,133 --> 01:03:48,733
Speaker 2: Oh that Yeah, So that is the measure of a man,

1273
01:03:48,773 --> 01:03:52,613
Speaker 2: isn't it. Rest in peace, Sir Bob legendary New Zealander

1274
01:03:52,653 --> 01:03:56,453
Speaker 2: thought leader, authentics, successful at business, very successful at business.

1275
01:03:56,453 --> 01:04:01,013
Speaker 2: He then used to gift generously to enable others as well.

1276
01:04:01,653 --> 01:04:03,733
Speaker 3: Tony your thoughts on Sir Bob Jones.

1277
01:04:05,253 --> 01:04:07,973
Speaker 5: Madam Tyler. Yeah, I attended a couple of his party

1278
01:04:08,013 --> 01:04:11,133
Speaker 5: sound seminars and he was a really interesting guy. He

1279
01:04:11,173 --> 01:04:14,653
Speaker 5: gave a lot of good advice. He also suggested initially,

1280
01:04:14,653 --> 01:04:16,413
Speaker 5: if you couldn't get money from a bank, you could

1281
01:04:16,413 --> 01:04:19,813
Speaker 5: often get it from a solicitors fund, which I in

1282
01:04:19,853 --> 01:04:22,053
Speaker 5: fact did myself on the first property I bought. But

1283
01:04:22,493 --> 01:04:24,573
Speaker 5: the main purpose of my tool is that I don't

1284
01:04:24,573 --> 01:04:26,533
Speaker 5: know if a lot of people realized this, but actually

1285
01:04:27,493 --> 01:04:33,453
Speaker 5: was very involved and the initial promotion, and he actually

1286
01:04:33,573 --> 01:04:38,133
Speaker 5: paid Joseph Parker a salary to trainers and boxing because

1287
01:04:38,133 --> 01:04:40,773
Speaker 5: he saw a lot of potential in him. And of

1288
01:04:40,773 --> 01:04:43,013
Speaker 5: course a lot of people would realize now that you know,

1289
01:04:43,133 --> 01:04:47,773
Speaker 5: Joseph Parker is certainly one of the will contenders and

1290
01:04:48,133 --> 01:04:50,133
Speaker 5: one of the best ten boxes in the world right now.

1291
01:04:50,253 --> 01:04:54,333
Speaker 5: So he was very involved in his actual career. And

1292
01:04:54,373 --> 01:04:57,013
Speaker 5: he was also a guy that used to be asked

1293
01:04:57,013 --> 01:04:59,933
Speaker 5: to come on a lot of your sporting commentaries with

1294
01:05:00,053 --> 01:05:03,253
Speaker 5: your sports announcers if there was a big boxing match

1295
01:05:03,293 --> 01:05:06,053
Speaker 5: to come up, because he had a great knowledge of

1296
01:05:06,093 --> 01:05:10,133
Speaker 5: the sport and most of the comment he made regarding

1297
01:05:10,213 --> 01:05:11,933
Speaker 5: fights was pretty much on the mark, you know.

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01:05:13,173 --> 01:05:18,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So essentially you know a guy that spotted

1299
01:05:19,213 --> 01:05:22,133
Speaker 3: a talent in Joseph Parker before anyone else did.

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01:05:23,533 --> 01:05:27,053
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, no, he did, and he really sort of

1301
01:05:27,133 --> 01:05:30,573
Speaker 5: backed him and as I said, I think I think

1302
01:05:30,653 --> 01:05:33,853
Speaker 5: initially that he saw he had a lot of ability,

1303
01:05:34,093 --> 01:05:37,693
Speaker 5: and he liked the way that he actually presented himself

1304
01:05:37,733 --> 01:05:40,093
Speaker 5: on the ring and his ring craft he thought was

1305
01:05:40,173 --> 01:05:42,893
Speaker 5: quite good. So he basically felt that he had a

1306
01:05:42,893 --> 01:05:45,533
Speaker 5: lot of potential and he backed him for you know,

1307
01:05:45,613 --> 01:05:47,413
Speaker 5: for at least a couple of years financially.

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01:05:47,493 --> 01:05:48,093
Speaker 4: So there you go.

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01:05:48,533 --> 01:05:53,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, So in order would it be businessman, politician, boxing

1310
01:05:53,093 --> 01:05:54,133
Speaker 3: fan mom Jones?

1311
01:05:54,253 --> 01:05:57,813
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, And I think he gave a lot to

1312
01:05:57,893 --> 01:05:59,973
Speaker 5: charity of course as well. But as I said, I

1313
01:06:00,013 --> 01:06:02,133
Speaker 5: met him but at least two property cinemas, and I

1314
01:06:02,133 --> 01:06:04,613
Speaker 5: found him very informative and he was a guy you

1315
01:06:04,693 --> 01:06:06,653
Speaker 5: could approach and he was really easy to talk to,

1316
01:06:06,773 --> 01:06:06,973
Speaker 5: you know.

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01:06:07,253 --> 01:06:09,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, on your Tony, thanks for sharing that.

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01:06:09,813 --> 01:06:12,173
Speaker 2: I wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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01:06:12,173 --> 01:06:14,773
Speaker 2: to call. You would have had a couple of interactions

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01:06:14,773 --> 01:06:16,053
Speaker 2: with Sue Bob Man Yep, yep.

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01:06:16,253 --> 01:06:18,573
Speaker 3: I've interviewed him in a number of times, and I

1322
01:06:18,613 --> 01:06:21,733
Speaker 3: had received some correspondence when I'd made grammatical errors in

1323
01:06:21,773 --> 01:06:25,813
Speaker 3: my articles. But a very interesting, very interesting guy. You're

1324
01:06:25,813 --> 01:06:29,213
Speaker 3: not going to win a discussion with him. In my

1325
01:06:29,333 --> 01:06:32,813
Speaker 3: experience when I interviewed him over the years. He didn't

1326
01:06:32,853 --> 01:06:35,773
Speaker 3: take any nonsense at all, and he'd quickly see through

1327
01:06:36,773 --> 01:06:39,693
Speaker 3: what you were trying to do. But you know, we

1328
01:06:39,813 --> 01:06:41,493
Speaker 3: interviewed him quite a lot when I was down on

1329
01:06:41,613 --> 01:06:45,133
Speaker 3: Radiohodachi because he was he always had an interesting take

1330
01:06:45,173 --> 01:06:47,933
Speaker 3: on things, very funny. But he would absolutely berate us

1331
01:06:47,973 --> 01:06:51,013
Speaker 3: about the music because you know, you'd go over, you know,

1332
01:06:51,013 --> 01:06:53,933
Speaker 3: he'd be waiting on hold and there'd be a Red

1333
01:06:53,973 --> 01:06:58,733
Speaker 3: Hot Chilli Peppers song on and immediately just absolutely horrified

1334
01:07:00,133 --> 01:07:02,813
Speaker 3: how bad he thought whatever song was playing was so good.

1335
01:07:02,853 --> 01:07:04,373
Speaker 2: I wait. One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1336
01:07:04,453 --> 01:07:07,413
Speaker 2: number to call love your memories and thoughts and encounters

1337
01:07:07,413 --> 01:07:09,293
Speaker 2: with Sue Bob who was sadley passed away at the

1338
01:07:09,333 --> 01:07:12,533
Speaker 2: age of eighty five. It is nineteen two three.

1339
01:07:13,613 --> 01:07:16,293
Speaker 1: A fresh take on took Back. It's Matt Heath and

1340
01:07:16,373 --> 01:07:20,173
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams afternoons have your say on eight hundred eighty

1341
01:07:20,253 --> 01:07:21,413
Speaker 1: ten eighty us talk.

1342
01:07:21,573 --> 01:07:24,053
Speaker 2: Be good afternoons seventeen to three. We're talking about the

1343
01:07:24,133 --> 01:07:26,453
Speaker 2: legacy of Sir Bob Jones, who has passed away at

1344
01:07:26,453 --> 01:07:27,333
Speaker 2: the age of eighty five.

1345
01:07:27,613 --> 01:07:29,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I've been called in to question my list

1346
01:07:29,773 --> 01:07:33,693
Speaker 3: of what he was in order. I was saying, businessman, politician,

1347
01:07:33,773 --> 01:07:38,293
Speaker 3: boxing fan, This texas is drinker comes after businessman and

1348
01:07:38,373 --> 01:07:41,893
Speaker 3: another text sent the letter agreed with that texta and

1349
01:07:42,093 --> 01:07:46,733
Speaker 3: sent the list and as businessman, drinker, politician, boxing fan, philanthropist, yep,

1350
01:07:46,853 --> 01:07:49,853
Speaker 3: drinker and then smoker, Oh and then smoker.

1351
01:07:49,933 --> 01:07:53,093
Speaker 2: Yet fisherman in there as well somewhere as well. Uh, Trevor,

1352
01:07:53,213 --> 01:07:55,013
Speaker 2: you had a personal encounter with Sir Bob.

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01:07:55,893 --> 01:07:56,413
Speaker 5: Yeah, I did.

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01:07:56,533 --> 01:07:56,693
Speaker 10: Yeah.

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01:07:56,693 --> 01:07:58,573
Speaker 19: He said that he was well armed for his pipe.

1356
01:07:58,573 --> 01:07:59,493
Speaker 5: He used to smoke a pipe.

1357
01:07:59,493 --> 01:08:01,733
Speaker 19: But no, I had a first encountered with Bob was

1358
01:08:02,373 --> 01:08:04,493
Speaker 19: you know I talked about me in Craine. But I

1359
01:08:04,533 --> 01:08:07,853
Speaker 19: remember I went to Fix's air conditioner in his office

1360
01:08:07,893 --> 01:08:10,093
Speaker 19: in one of his high rises of Willington and the

1361
01:08:10,133 --> 01:08:12,093
Speaker 19: company I worked for back and then you know, there's

1362
01:08:12,133 --> 01:08:14,093
Speaker 19: a sort of etiquette and how nice and polite you

1363
01:08:14,173 --> 01:08:16,492
Speaker 19: were to the customer explaining what was wrong on that.

1364
01:08:16,773 --> 01:08:19,173
Speaker 19: So I checked his ecodition around and I start explained

1365
01:08:19,213 --> 01:08:23,053
Speaker 19: to him. He says, listen, mate, just fix theF and things.

1366
01:08:23,452 --> 01:08:25,652
Speaker 5: You know here Hero was.

1367
01:08:25,612 --> 01:08:27,612
Speaker 19: Trying to do it. But there's another couple of things

1368
01:08:27,612 --> 01:08:30,652
Speaker 19: that he was well known for. He hated guys. He

1369
01:08:30,893 --> 01:08:35,932
Speaker 19: hated guys that wore their trousers down by their knees, right,

1370
01:08:35,973 --> 01:08:38,732
Speaker 19: He just hated. He just hated people for that. And

1371
01:08:38,812 --> 01:08:40,732
Speaker 19: another thing. He used to have a talkback show on

1372
01:08:40,772 --> 01:08:42,333
Speaker 19: the radio and Willing I think it was a Sunday

1373
01:08:42,412 --> 01:08:45,173
Speaker 19: night and one night he was late getting there and

1374
01:08:45,213 --> 01:08:47,852
Speaker 19: he said he got pulled over by a colt for speeding.

1375
01:08:48,133 --> 01:08:51,293
Speaker 19: And you should have heard his spray about the Ministry

1376
01:08:51,333 --> 01:08:54,732
Speaker 19: of Transport and the number of this officer that pulled

1377
01:08:54,772 --> 01:08:56,812
Speaker 19: him over was I mean, you just wouldn't get away

1378
01:08:56,812 --> 01:09:00,693
Speaker 19: with her these days. So and his spray was unbelievable.

1379
01:09:00,812 --> 01:09:03,253
Speaker 19: And another thing he does upset people. He sacked one

1380
01:09:03,253 --> 01:09:05,973
Speaker 19: of his guards once, the gardeners once because he had

1381
01:09:05,973 --> 01:09:07,972
Speaker 19: a big property on the Western Hills and the art there,

1382
01:09:08,492 --> 01:09:11,333
Speaker 19: and the old gardener must have been pissed off, and

1383
01:09:11,333 --> 01:09:13,412
Speaker 19: he went back and he poisoned all of his trees

1384
01:09:13,452 --> 01:09:16,732
Speaker 19: and all of the lawns. So he was he was.

1385
01:09:16,973 --> 01:09:18,972
Speaker 19: He was a real character. And to tell you the truth,

1386
01:09:19,253 --> 01:09:23,372
Speaker 19: that's the sort of guy person that I enjoyed.

1387
01:09:23,652 --> 01:09:27,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean interesting, you know. He often there

1388
01:09:27,572 --> 01:09:29,532
Speaker 3: was a certain thing that Bob Jones didn't like and

1389
01:09:30,013 --> 01:09:33,172
Speaker 3: on in New Zealand flights. He didn't like the safety

1390
01:09:33,253 --> 01:09:36,093
Speaker 3: videos and he didn't like the safety talk. It used

1391
01:09:36,093 --> 01:09:39,053
Speaker 3: to absolutely drive him because he thought it was a

1392
01:09:39,093 --> 01:09:42,173
Speaker 3: logical I believe, because he flew so much he didn't

1393
01:09:42,173 --> 01:09:43,732
Speaker 3: need to watch and there's that annoying thing that so

1394
01:09:43,812 --> 01:09:46,612
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter if you flow frequently or not, please listen.

1395
01:09:47,013 --> 01:09:50,413
Speaker 3: And so he wouldn't, and he started putting those headphones

1396
01:09:50,452 --> 01:09:51,053
Speaker 3: on so he.

1397
01:09:50,973 --> 01:09:53,812
Speaker 2: Couldn't pioneer because he's so right, isn't.

1398
01:09:53,652 --> 01:09:55,652
Speaker 3: He, So he didn't have to listen to them, and

1399
01:09:55,692 --> 01:09:57,932
Speaker 3: finally they were forcing him to do so I think

1400
01:09:58,173 --> 01:10:00,333
Speaker 3: that's he brought himself a private jet so he didn't

1401
01:10:00,372 --> 01:10:02,972
Speaker 3: have to listen to the hed the safety messages, which

1402
01:10:02,973 --> 01:10:03,492
Speaker 3: I respect.

1403
01:10:03,732 --> 01:10:07,173
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, No, he was a great character that I'll

1404
01:10:07,213 --> 01:10:09,133
Speaker 19: be really missed because we I ain't got people like

1405
01:10:09,173 --> 01:10:09,852
Speaker 19: that these days.

1406
01:10:10,053 --> 01:10:11,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much for your call, Trevor.

1407
01:10:11,692 --> 01:10:14,492
Speaker 2: Appreciate that there's some great texts coming through guys many

1408
01:10:14,572 --> 01:10:16,692
Speaker 2: years ago. Living in Wellington, was that a function? So

1409
01:10:16,893 --> 01:10:19,492
Speaker 2: Bob was a guest speaker out I answered the door

1410
01:10:19,612 --> 01:10:22,412
Speaker 2: and a young cop asked if Barney was in. Sorry,

1411
01:10:22,412 --> 01:10:24,372
Speaker 2: I said, he is sleeping. Can you wake him up.

1412
01:10:24,372 --> 01:10:26,452
Speaker 2: Not really, Why do you want him for? We have

1413
01:10:26,532 --> 01:10:30,532
Speaker 2: numerous unpaid parking fines, I said, hold on. Came back

1414
01:10:30,532 --> 01:10:32,972
Speaker 2: with my dog Barney, telling the cop he owns the car.

1415
01:10:33,053 --> 01:10:36,213
Speaker 2: Not knowing what to do, he left. Bob told the

1416
01:10:36,253 --> 01:10:40,532
Speaker 2: audience he registered many vehicles with animals. Very good, keep

1417
01:10:40,532 --> 01:10:43,173
Speaker 2: those stories coming through on. Oh, eight hundred and eighty

1418
01:10:43,293 --> 01:10:46,412
Speaker 2: ten eighty. We'll get Terry in before. We've got to

1419
01:10:46,412 --> 01:10:47,772
Speaker 2: play some messages. Get I Terry.

1420
01:10:48,652 --> 01:10:52,932
Speaker 20: Oh hello, Yeah. I met Bob Jones back in nineteen

1421
01:10:52,973 --> 01:10:56,852
Speaker 20: sixty seven. I was postmaster of Varro's Street post Office

1422
01:10:56,893 --> 01:10:59,852
Speaker 20: in Wellington and I used to have a drink after

1423
01:10:59,933 --> 01:11:05,572
Speaker 20: work in a pub on Tanacori Road, and he used

1424
01:11:05,612 --> 01:11:11,253
Speaker 20: to be in there, oh most nights and having a beer. Anyway,

1425
01:11:11,253 --> 01:11:12,852
Speaker 20: I got talking to him. I said what do you do?

1426
01:11:12,973 --> 01:11:15,173
Speaker 20: And he said, oh, I do up houses and sell

1427
01:11:15,213 --> 01:11:18,253
Speaker 20: them and I said, ah, he said actually, he said,

1428
01:11:18,293 --> 01:11:22,133
Speaker 20: I've just broken brunched out and I just I've got

1429
01:11:22,173 --> 01:11:27,133
Speaker 20: the fishing rights of lake wire Wrapper and I said, well,

1430
01:11:27,372 --> 01:11:29,492
Speaker 20: how what are you going to do with that? He said, well,

1431
01:11:29,532 --> 01:11:33,692
Speaker 20: I've just opened a smoke factory and Grove Town and

1432
01:11:33,772 --> 01:11:39,892
Speaker 20: I'm smoking eel and sending it to American and I said, well,

1433
01:11:40,013 --> 01:11:42,732
Speaker 20: that's interesting. He said, do you want a job? And

1434
01:11:42,772 --> 01:11:45,532
Speaker 20: I said no, no, you know I'm in the post

1435
01:11:45,572 --> 01:11:48,052
Speaker 20: office here. He says, oh. He said, oh, you won't

1436
01:11:48,053 --> 01:11:52,293
Speaker 20: make much there, mate, and he's god, he couldn't have

1437
01:11:52,293 --> 01:11:58,692
Speaker 20: been more right. Yeah, but that's true. He offered me

1438
01:11:58,732 --> 01:12:01,333
Speaker 20: a job. I don't know what is, probably a bloody

1439
01:12:01,732 --> 01:12:07,652
Speaker 20: floor sweeper or walker or whatever, but yeah, he had

1440
01:12:07,692 --> 01:12:10,452
Speaker 20: the fishing all right of Blake war wrapper.

1441
01:12:10,772 --> 01:12:15,612
Speaker 3: Well, thanks for you call Terry. This person has text

1442
01:12:15,652 --> 01:12:17,612
Speaker 3: it through. I used to work for Bob as his pa.

1443
01:12:18,013 --> 01:12:21,253
Speaker 3: He was a great man, hard but fear. Yeah. Yeah,

1444
01:12:21,293 --> 01:12:23,692
Speaker 3: I think that's what's coming through a lot now. I'm

1445
01:12:24,452 --> 01:12:26,492
Speaker 3: a friend of mine that have worked with for a

1446
01:12:26,572 --> 01:12:29,973
Speaker 3: number of years, was good friends with Bob Jones and

1447
01:12:30,013 --> 01:12:34,053
Speaker 3: had a number of encounters with him and a number

1448
01:12:34,093 --> 01:12:35,932
Speaker 3: of adventures with him. So I'm quite keen to talk

1449
01:12:35,973 --> 01:12:36,452
Speaker 3: to him next.

1450
01:12:37,013 --> 01:12:41,532
Speaker 2: Mister Jeremy Wells, it is eleven to three, The issues

1451
01:12:41,572 --> 01:12:44,052
Speaker 2: that affect you and a bit of fun along the way.

1452
01:12:44,293 --> 01:12:49,612
Speaker 2: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News talks'd be it

1453
01:12:49,652 --> 01:12:50,412
Speaker 2: is nine to three.

1454
01:12:50,973 --> 01:12:54,652
Speaker 3: Prominent businessman, author and former politicians. Sir Robert Edward Jones,

1455
01:12:54,652 --> 01:12:57,692
Speaker 3: better known as Sir Bob Jones, has died five year old.

1456
01:12:57,732 --> 01:13:01,492
Speaker 3: Died peacefully ads Wellington Homes, surrounded by family after a

1457
01:13:01,492 --> 01:13:04,612
Speaker 3: brief illness. And a man that's had a quite a

1458
01:13:04,612 --> 01:13:07,133
Speaker 3: bit to do with Bob Jones over the years is

1459
01:13:07,253 --> 01:13:10,133
Speaker 3: seven Sharp and Ready Hedecki host Jeremy Wells. Welcome to

1460
01:13:10,173 --> 01:13:10,492
Speaker 3: the show.

1461
01:13:11,213 --> 01:13:12,412
Speaker 4: Good Matt Good o' kyler.

1462
01:13:12,492 --> 01:13:15,093
Speaker 3: How are you good, jeremyy Gard? So how did you

1463
01:13:15,133 --> 01:13:16,333
Speaker 3: first get to know Sir.

1464
01:13:16,213 --> 01:13:19,812
Speaker 4: Bob well Years ago? I was doing a show called

1465
01:13:19,812 --> 01:13:22,053
Speaker 4: Eating Media Lunch and a lot of it used to

1466
01:13:22,133 --> 01:13:25,852
Speaker 4: be archive based, and when we'd look at some archives stuff,

1467
01:13:25,893 --> 01:13:30,172
Speaker 4: Bob Jones featured very, very heavily, particularly through the nineteen

1468
01:13:30,213 --> 01:13:33,772
Speaker 4: seventies and then into the nineteen eighties, the early to

1469
01:13:33,812 --> 01:13:36,452
Speaker 4: mid nineteen eighties with the formation of the New Zealand Party,

1470
01:13:37,093 --> 01:13:42,732
Speaker 4: and so he was heland large over the New Zealand

1471
01:13:42,772 --> 01:13:45,492
Speaker 4: political landscape. Fact just open news in landscape as a whole.

1472
01:13:45,492 --> 01:13:47,133
Speaker 4: So we thought it'd be a great person to reach

1473
01:13:47,133 --> 01:13:49,093
Speaker 4: out and talk to it. When you did reach out

1474
01:13:49,133 --> 01:13:50,692
Speaker 4: to Bob Jones, this is the thing you call him

1475
01:13:50,772 --> 01:13:53,612
Speaker 4: up on his landline at home, and he's always an't

1476
01:13:53,652 --> 01:13:56,173
Speaker 4: to the phone and he'd have a chat to you,

1477
01:13:56,333 --> 01:13:58,893
Speaker 4: and he always gave you time. And so I was

1478
01:13:58,973 --> 01:14:02,133
Speaker 4: very really lucky that he gave me a bit of

1479
01:14:02,133 --> 01:14:03,852
Speaker 4: time over the years, and I got to intertraim a

1480
01:14:03,853 --> 01:14:05,772
Speaker 4: few times and got to go to his house and

1481
01:14:05,812 --> 01:14:06,612
Speaker 4: all sorts of stuff.

1482
01:14:06,853 --> 01:14:09,933
Speaker 3: What was he like to spend time I'm worth personally

1483
01:14:10,053 --> 01:14:13,412
Speaker 3: outside of the public image.

1484
01:14:12,572 --> 01:14:18,053
Speaker 4: Well, he is incredibly affable and very hospitable. When he

1485
01:14:18,093 --> 01:14:19,852
Speaker 4: went to his house, I went over there once and

1486
01:14:20,732 --> 01:14:22,532
Speaker 4: he made lunch for us. Well he didn't make lunch,

1487
01:14:22,612 --> 01:14:27,572
Speaker 4: but has made lunch for us and he was walking around.

1488
01:14:27,652 --> 01:14:31,412
Speaker 4: He shared so much of himself. He was a great wreck,

1489
01:14:31,933 --> 01:14:35,452
Speaker 4: an amazing conversationalist, even if at times it was more

1490
01:14:35,492 --> 01:14:37,812
Speaker 4: of a listening exercise for the other person involved in

1491
01:14:37,812 --> 01:14:41,372
Speaker 4: the conversation. You were definitely happy to listen because his

1492
01:14:41,492 --> 01:14:44,732
Speaker 4: stories were second to none. I mean, his Muldoon's stories

1493
01:14:44,772 --> 01:14:47,333
Speaker 4: were next level. Because of course he was great mates

1494
01:14:47,333 --> 01:14:49,652
Speaker 4: with Muldoon and then formed the New Zealand Party in

1495
01:14:49,732 --> 01:14:52,492
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty three because he didn't believe what Muldoon was

1496
01:14:52,532 --> 01:14:55,333
Speaker 4: doing was right and essentially split the vote and really

1497
01:14:55,412 --> 01:14:58,372
Speaker 4: changed New Zealand history. I mean, is there a man

1498
01:14:59,013 --> 01:15:02,372
Speaker 4: who's changed New Zealand politics more? I'm not sure.

1499
01:15:02,532 --> 01:15:06,452
Speaker 3: It would have been a very different country if Muldoon

1500
01:15:06,532 --> 01:15:09,132
Speaker 3: had got back. And you've told me a great story

1501
01:15:09,133 --> 01:15:12,253
Speaker 3: in the past that that's I think it's hilarious. And

1502
01:15:13,372 --> 01:15:15,973
Speaker 3: you and Sir Bob Jones are smoking cigars and a

1503
01:15:16,013 --> 01:15:19,373
Speaker 3: TV and Z studio long after that was the considered

1504
01:15:19,412 --> 01:15:20,452
Speaker 3: an absolute crime.

1505
01:15:22,452 --> 01:15:24,093
Speaker 4: We set up an interview with him, and we thought

1506
01:15:24,093 --> 01:15:26,092
Speaker 4: it would be good to do it like a nineteen

1507
01:15:26,173 --> 01:15:28,973
Speaker 4: seventies interview in black and white, so we created a

1508
01:15:29,013 --> 01:15:31,093
Speaker 4: set that looked like a nineteen seventies set, and then

1509
01:15:31,093 --> 01:15:33,772
Speaker 4: we approached TV and Z. Of course strict no smoking

1510
01:15:33,853 --> 01:15:36,093
Speaker 4: rules of TV and ZED in the studios in the

1511
01:15:36,772 --> 01:15:40,173
Speaker 4: late nineties early two thousands understandably, but we asked for

1512
01:15:40,173 --> 01:15:44,852
Speaker 4: an exemption and in a strange tournam events, they allowed

1513
01:15:44,933 --> 01:15:47,133
Speaker 4: us to smoke cigars in the studios. I don't think

1514
01:15:47,173 --> 01:15:50,652
Speaker 4: that'll ever happen again. So we drank red wine chatted away.

1515
01:15:51,173 --> 01:15:53,572
Speaker 4: The planned interview was about half an hour long. It

1516
01:15:53,692 --> 01:15:55,253
Speaker 4: went for an hour and a half because once Bob

1517
01:15:55,293 --> 01:15:58,572
Speaker 4: started talking, you couldn't stop them, and we ended up

1518
01:15:58,612 --> 01:16:01,612
Speaker 4: polishing off two bottles of wine. Next thing you know,

1519
01:16:01,652 --> 01:16:03,652
Speaker 4: he said to me, he goes, Jeremy, I've got to

1520
01:16:03,652 --> 01:16:06,532
Speaker 4: go and meet Barrymore. So come with me. You're coming

1521
01:16:06,532 --> 01:16:07,973
Speaker 4: with me. We're going to meet Barrymore. I've got to

1522
01:16:08,013 --> 01:16:10,452
Speaker 4: go to a speech. And the blab I mean, he was,

1523
01:16:10,772 --> 01:16:12,612
Speaker 4: you know, he's a couple of of the wine deep.

1524
01:16:12,692 --> 01:16:14,253
Speaker 4: Next thing you know, I'm out. I'm going out to

1525
01:16:14,293 --> 01:16:17,173
Speaker 4: Barrymore's house with him. He's dragging me around somewhere else.

1526
01:16:17,893 --> 01:16:20,972
Speaker 4: But that's the kind of guy he was. He as

1527
01:16:20,973 --> 01:16:23,333
Speaker 4: soon as he kind of sussed you out quite quickly,

1528
01:16:23,333 --> 01:16:25,173
Speaker 4: and if he decided that he liked you, after that,

1529
01:16:25,893 --> 01:16:27,173
Speaker 4: there was nothing he didn't share.

1530
01:16:28,133 --> 01:16:30,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I've heard stories of people banging on

1531
01:16:30,492 --> 01:16:32,452
Speaker 3: the doors of that studio trying to get in because

1532
01:16:32,492 --> 01:16:35,652
Speaker 3: even though it was sanctioned that you could be smoking cigars,

1533
01:16:35,692 --> 01:16:37,452
Speaker 3: only not the whole company was buying.

1534
01:16:39,173 --> 01:16:39,372
Speaker 21: Yeah.

1535
01:16:39,372 --> 01:16:43,013
Speaker 4: Well, once we went to his Wellington office and he

1536
01:16:43,213 --> 01:16:45,213
Speaker 4: invited us up there for drinks, and so we went

1537
01:16:45,293 --> 01:16:48,133
Speaker 4: up there and it's a huge office, I mean it

1538
01:16:48,173 --> 01:16:51,772
Speaker 4: was giant, big drinks cabinet, and poured us a glass

1539
01:16:51,772 --> 01:16:53,492
Speaker 4: of wine and then I saw I said, I did

1540
01:16:53,492 --> 01:16:54,973
Speaker 4: you make this had a huge balcony. I said, do

1541
01:16:54,973 --> 01:16:56,133
Speaker 4: you mind if I go and have a cigarette in

1542
01:16:56,133 --> 01:17:00,532
Speaker 4: the balcony? Is Nate you must smoke inside? I said no,

1543
01:17:00,532 --> 01:17:02,333
Speaker 4: I'd rather smoke outside of smoking at the time. He

1544
01:17:02,372 --> 01:17:06,092
Speaker 4: said no, no, no, I insist you have to smoke inside.

1545
01:17:06,213 --> 01:17:09,293
Speaker 4: So he forced you to smoke and side. He was

1546
01:17:09,412 --> 01:17:12,093
Speaker 4: very funny as a sad loss and I feel for

1547
01:17:12,133 --> 01:17:12,652
Speaker 4: his family.

1548
01:17:13,532 --> 01:17:17,492
Speaker 3: So, Jeremy, we've had we've had someone text throw and

1549
01:17:17,532 --> 01:17:20,452
Speaker 3: that news of Bob Jones and has put the man

1550
01:17:20,532 --> 01:17:22,612
Speaker 3: in order in this fashion. And see if you agree

1551
01:17:22,652 --> 01:17:33,133
Speaker 3: with that? He said, businessman, drinker, politician, author, boxing fan, drinker, philanthropist, smoker.

1552
01:17:33,372 --> 01:17:34,652
Speaker 3: Would you agree with that order?

1553
01:17:36,173 --> 01:17:39,812
Speaker 4: He definitely did all of those things. Tricky, tricky to

1554
01:17:39,933 --> 01:17:41,652
Speaker 4: know which order to put them in. I think it

1555
01:17:41,732 --> 01:17:43,812
Speaker 4: sort of depends on how he's feeling at the time.

1556
01:17:44,173 --> 01:17:45,772
Speaker 4: I think at one stage we went around to his

1557
01:17:45,812 --> 01:17:48,053
Speaker 4: place and he said, I've given up the bozer. Dog

1558
01:17:48,133 --> 01:17:50,133
Speaker 4: just told me that's not good for me. And then

1559
01:17:50,173 --> 01:17:53,093
Speaker 4: by about by about an hour into it, he said,

1560
01:17:53,093 --> 01:17:57,412
Speaker 4: should be crack into a red So we're having a

1561
01:17:57,492 --> 01:18:01,093
Speaker 4: glass of glass of red wine. But yeah, a really

1562
01:18:01,093 --> 01:18:06,772
Speaker 4: good guy and one of the one of the last people.

1563
01:18:06,812 --> 01:18:09,012
Speaker 4: I don't think we'll ever see another personal Bob Jones

1564
01:18:09,013 --> 01:18:11,173
Speaker 4: and is no doubt about that absolute icon.

1565
01:18:11,253 --> 01:18:13,333
Speaker 2: Jeremy, thanks for having a yet with us. We'll catch

1566
01:18:13,372 --> 01:18:16,053
Speaker 2: up again soon. That is Jeremy Wells, who was a

1567
01:18:16,093 --> 01:18:18,532
Speaker 2: great fan of SD Bob Jones. We're gonna pick this

1568
01:18:18,652 --> 01:18:20,732
Speaker 2: up again after three o'clock. We want to hear your

1569
01:18:20,772 --> 01:18:23,333
Speaker 2: memories and stories of Sir Bob Jones, who was sadly

1570
01:18:23,372 --> 01:18:26,492
Speaker 2: passed away at the age of eighty five. News Sport

1571
01:18:26,532 --> 01:18:27,892
Speaker 2: and Weather is on its.

1572
01:18:27,732 --> 01:18:34,092
Speaker 1: Way talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen, Taylor

1573
01:18:34,133 --> 01:18:36,412
Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons News Talks.

1574
01:18:36,452 --> 01:18:40,372
Speaker 2: It'd be News Talks, it'd be welcome back into the program,

1575
01:18:40,372 --> 01:18:43,333
Speaker 2: and we are talking about Sir Bob Jones, who sadly

1576
01:18:43,372 --> 01:18:46,093
Speaker 2: passed away at the age of eighty five. Your memories,

1577
01:18:46,612 --> 01:18:49,652
Speaker 2: your thoughts, your interactions with a man who was an

1578
01:18:49,812 --> 01:18:50,612
Speaker 2: icon in New Zealand.

1579
01:18:51,812 --> 01:18:54,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we've had some great chats with Barry Soaper

1580
01:18:55,133 --> 01:18:58,452
Speaker 3: and Jeremy Wells, both good friends of Sir Bob Jones.

1581
01:18:58,933 --> 01:19:02,492
Speaker 3: And if you miss those, they'll be on Men Tyler

1582
01:19:02,492 --> 01:19:05,732
Speaker 3: Afternoon's podcast. We can find it iHeartRadio where you get

1583
01:19:05,732 --> 01:19:09,173
Speaker 3: your podcasts. So I felt both both discussions of Sir

1584
01:19:09,253 --> 01:19:10,333
Speaker 3: Bob Jones quite touching.

1585
01:19:10,492 --> 01:19:14,812
Speaker 2: Absolutely, there's some great texts coming through on nine two

1586
01:19:14,893 --> 01:19:17,133
Speaker 2: nine two, And if you want to send us a

1587
01:19:17,133 --> 01:19:19,412
Speaker 2: message with your thoughts about se Bob, you're more than welcome,

1588
01:19:19,412 --> 01:19:21,293
Speaker 2: but we're keen to hear your stories on our eight

1589
01:19:21,372 --> 01:19:23,293
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty as well.

1590
01:19:23,572 --> 01:19:25,772
Speaker 3: I think, like many, my enduring memory of Bob Jones

1591
01:19:25,812 --> 01:19:28,132
Speaker 3: will be that iconic footage of him smacking that juno

1592
01:19:28,173 --> 01:19:32,012
Speaker 3: herm bushed him on, ambushed him on a fishing trip. Now,

1593
01:19:32,013 --> 01:19:34,053
Speaker 3: I think, especially over the past five years, most of

1594
01:19:34,133 --> 01:19:36,932
Speaker 3: us want to punch a journal or two. So there

1595
01:19:36,933 --> 01:19:38,933
Speaker 3: you go, guys, you're next. Yeah, thanks for that.

1596
01:19:38,973 --> 01:19:40,892
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, we wait for it. I mean that was

1597
01:19:40,933 --> 01:19:44,213
Speaker 2: incredible footage, though, wasn't it coming off the helicopter. Then

1598
01:19:44,253 --> 01:19:46,572
Speaker 2: he approaches Bob, and Bob's in the anirak and he

1599
01:19:46,652 --> 01:19:48,932
Speaker 2: just turns around and slogs him right in the nose.

1600
01:19:48,973 --> 01:19:51,412
Speaker 2: And then Rod turns to the camera with blood gushing

1601
01:19:51,452 --> 01:19:54,772
Speaker 2: down his face with a wee wah wah. I think

1602
01:19:54,853 --> 01:19:57,892
Speaker 2: most people at the time had a lot of sympathy

1603
01:19:57,933 --> 01:19:59,812
Speaker 2: for Bob punching Rod in the face.

1604
01:20:00,372 --> 01:20:02,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rod Vaughan. Yeah, I think they made up in

1605
01:20:02,973 --> 01:20:03,333
Speaker 3: the end.

1606
01:20:03,492 --> 01:20:03,692
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1607
01:20:03,772 --> 01:20:06,612
Speaker 3: And it's interesting before because you know, we had a

1608
01:20:06,612 --> 01:20:09,412
Speaker 3: caller that rang up and was talking about the mot

1609
01:20:09,732 --> 01:20:11,973
Speaker 3: officer that gave Bob Jones a speeding ticket on his

1610
01:20:12,013 --> 01:20:15,412
Speaker 3: way into his radio show, Bob Jones's radio show. The

1611
01:20:15,532 --> 01:20:18,852
Speaker 3: officer was called It was Ken McLeod, and they ended

1612
01:20:18,933 --> 01:20:23,372
Speaker 3: up becoming friends after Bob Jones absolutely ripped into him

1613
01:20:23,412 --> 01:20:26,852
Speaker 3: and gave his number on the radio show, and Bob

1614
01:20:26,893 --> 01:20:30,973
Speaker 3: wrote a lovely obituary when Ken passed. So there you go,

1615
01:20:31,133 --> 01:20:31,732
Speaker 3: that is lovely.

1616
01:20:31,853 --> 01:20:34,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, Phil, you've got a story about Sir Bob.

1617
01:20:35,652 --> 01:20:36,732
Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't know.

1618
01:20:36,933 --> 01:20:40,093
Speaker 21: It might be the fishing trip one, but I think

1619
01:20:40,093 --> 01:20:43,213
Speaker 21: it's possibly a different one. But just before I do,

1620
01:20:43,412 --> 01:20:45,293
Speaker 21: I was thinking, like, I don't know how to put it,

1621
01:20:45,372 --> 01:20:47,892
Speaker 21: but I was going to say, what a sort of

1622
01:20:47,973 --> 01:20:50,572
Speaker 21: nice way to die at home, surrounded by your family

1623
01:20:50,612 --> 01:20:52,253
Speaker 21: and your own home, you know, if you're going to

1624
01:20:52,293 --> 01:20:57,093
Speaker 21: go out. Yeah, yeah, I couldn't think of a better,

1625
01:20:57,253 --> 01:21:01,133
Speaker 21: better way. But yeah, like Verry Soper said, because this

1626
01:21:01,253 --> 01:21:03,972
Speaker 21: story I think was sort of how he was quite

1627
01:21:04,372 --> 01:21:07,572
Speaker 21: he sounded. I made me think he was quite force right,

1628
01:21:07,612 --> 01:21:10,053
Speaker 21: and like he saved said, you knew he left you

1629
01:21:10,173 --> 01:21:12,053
Speaker 21: no doubt what he was talking about, if he had

1630
01:21:12,053 --> 01:21:15,293
Speaker 21: an opinion a sort of thing. But I heard I

1631
01:21:15,333 --> 01:21:17,213
Speaker 21: think it was on the TV that I heard him.

1632
01:21:17,333 --> 01:21:19,412
Speaker 21: It was either him being interviewed. I might have been

1633
01:21:19,412 --> 01:21:21,652
Speaker 21: watching him being interviewed, and at the time he had

1634
01:21:21,652 --> 01:21:24,812
Speaker 21: got into a bit of strife, and I think it

1635
01:21:24,812 --> 01:21:27,933
Speaker 21: was Bob Jones, because I think he had gone overseas

1636
01:21:27,973 --> 01:21:30,293
Speaker 21: and hired out a section of a river on some

1637
01:21:30,412 --> 01:21:35,093
Speaker 21: wealthy English farm or countryside and somehow got in the

1638
01:21:35,213 --> 01:21:38,253
Speaker 21: headlines or whatever, you know, and the guy was interview

1639
01:21:38,293 --> 01:21:40,013
Speaker 21: was hitting him up about that, saying, oh he's a

1640
01:21:40,053 --> 01:21:42,492
Speaker 21: bit extravagant, isn't it. You know, how who do you think?

1641
01:21:42,572 --> 01:21:45,492
Speaker 21: You know, Yeah, your high this whole river and shut

1642
01:21:45,572 --> 01:21:47,652
Speaker 21: it off, you know, to no one else, conflesing that

1643
01:21:47,772 --> 01:21:51,133
Speaker 21: sort of thing. And I can't remember who he said,

1644
01:21:51,133 --> 01:21:53,492
Speaker 21: but he said back to the interview he said, oh, well,

1645
01:21:53,532 --> 01:21:55,452
Speaker 21: you know, maybe it is sort of thing, but he

1646
01:21:55,933 --> 01:21:58,173
Speaker 21: tried to deflect the sort of heat off. And I

1647
01:21:58,173 --> 01:22:00,412
Speaker 21: suppose he said, and I can't remember who the guy was,

1648
01:22:00,452 --> 01:22:04,772
Speaker 21: It might have been rich White, Fay Rich White or

1649
01:22:04,812 --> 01:22:08,333
Speaker 21: some big, big mobile guy who owned the media or something.

1650
01:22:08,732 --> 01:22:10,492
Speaker 21: He said, well, at least it's not as bad as

1651
01:22:10,492 --> 01:22:12,532
Speaker 21: this Spellow, who I can't remember.

1652
01:22:13,093 --> 01:22:14,253
Speaker 5: Quite as well as Richway.

1653
01:22:14,253 --> 01:22:16,293
Speaker 21: He said, well, at least it's not as bad as

1654
01:22:16,293 --> 01:22:20,053
Speaker 21: this speller rich White will say, who ran out of

1655
01:22:20,053 --> 01:22:22,532
Speaker 21: petfrell going and his car ran out of petrol going

1656
01:22:22,612 --> 01:22:24,452
Speaker 21: over the Auckland Bridge. So he just hopped out and

1657
01:22:24,572 --> 01:22:27,052
Speaker 21: left the car and walked off and and brought another one.

1658
01:22:27,293 --> 01:22:29,732
Speaker 3: I remember that story, was that Ray Widwright that did that?

1659
01:22:29,853 --> 01:22:32,173
Speaker 3: Because I remember that famous story growing up in Dneed

1660
01:22:32,213 --> 01:22:34,053
Speaker 3: and that I thought it was we heard this down

1661
01:22:34,133 --> 01:22:38,133
Speaker 3: in Dunedin that a guy driving a Porsche just ran

1662
01:22:38,133 --> 01:22:39,652
Speaker 3: out of gasole on the Oakland to have a bridge

1663
01:22:39,652 --> 01:22:43,452
Speaker 3: and abandoned the car. I didn't know that was Ray Ridgewright.

1664
01:22:44,372 --> 01:22:47,412
Speaker 21: Well, I'm not one hundred percent sure on that, because

1665
01:22:47,732 --> 01:22:49,412
Speaker 21: my memory is a bit patchy on the story. If

1666
01:22:49,412 --> 01:22:51,692
Speaker 21: I always remember him saying like, wow, not as bad

1667
01:22:51,692 --> 01:22:54,572
Speaker 21: as this guy who was super wealthaid he just ran

1668
01:22:54,572 --> 01:22:56,652
Speaker 21: out of petrol and just left his car in the

1669
01:22:56,692 --> 01:22:59,253
Speaker 21: middle of the Auckland Bridge. I went and brought another one.

1670
01:22:59,612 --> 01:23:01,812
Speaker 2: Thank you, cawful, thank you very much.

1671
01:23:02,093 --> 01:23:06,133
Speaker 3: Yeah. So the famous incident was when Bob Jones was

1672
01:23:06,173 --> 01:23:10,452
Speaker 3: fishing near Too Dingy. Yes, when Rod Vaughn rocked up

1673
01:23:10,492 --> 01:23:14,372
Speaker 3: on a helicopter. And I think that the punch was

1674
01:23:14,452 --> 01:23:18,852
Speaker 3: primarily for the damage it was doing to Bob Bob's fishing.

1675
01:23:18,973 --> 01:23:21,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, according to Barry Soaper, which makes a lot of sense,

1676
01:23:22,372 --> 01:23:24,692
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1677
01:23:24,732 --> 01:23:26,972
Speaker 2: Gidde guys. Was Bob Jones ever on the dragons Den?

1678
01:23:27,013 --> 01:23:28,492
Speaker 2: I think he may have been, but I'm not sure.

1679
01:23:28,532 --> 01:23:31,372
Speaker 2: Lots of stories. Thanks for your show on him from

1680
01:23:31,492 --> 01:23:33,253
Speaker 2: Jan Yes, he was on the New Zealand version of

1681
01:23:33,293 --> 01:23:34,293
Speaker 2: dragons Den.

1682
01:23:34,492 --> 01:23:37,213
Speaker 3: Condolences to Sir Bob's family. I briefly went out with

1683
01:23:37,253 --> 01:23:40,092
Speaker 3: his beautiful daughter, Francis mid eighties. I hope she coped

1684
01:23:40,133 --> 01:23:43,133
Speaker 3: well with the goodbyes. My dad turned eighty nine years

1685
01:23:43,133 --> 01:23:46,293
Speaker 3: old today. That's from Steve, so Happy birthday to Steve's dad.

1686
01:23:46,412 --> 01:23:48,532
Speaker 2: Absolutely right. We'll get to more of your phone calls

1687
01:23:48,532 --> 01:23:50,973
Speaker 2: and memories about Sir Bob Jones very shortly. It is

1688
01:23:51,213 --> 01:23:54,732
Speaker 2: twelve past three, very good afternoons. It is a quarter

1689
01:23:54,853 --> 01:23:57,652
Speaker 2: past three, and we are hearing stories about Sir Bob Jones,

1690
01:23:57,652 --> 01:24:01,132
Speaker 2: who has passed away at the age of eighty five. Steve,

1691
01:24:01,973 --> 01:24:04,532
Speaker 2: you've got a story about sub Bob Okay.

1692
01:24:04,732 --> 01:24:08,732
Speaker 22: Yeah, it was probably around about thirty five years ago

1693
01:24:08,732 --> 01:24:09,652
Speaker 22: when I lived in Wellington.

1694
01:24:09,732 --> 01:24:13,013
Speaker 23: I sold photo copiers and in those days you'd go

1695
01:24:13,093 --> 01:24:16,213
Speaker 23: up to the stop at top of the high rise

1696
01:24:16,293 --> 01:24:18,732
Speaker 23: and work your way down And remember going into this

1697
01:24:18,893 --> 01:24:21,052
Speaker 23: office and and there was a lady at the counter

1698
01:24:21,133 --> 01:24:22,933
Speaker 23: and I'm sort of saying, oh, I'm just here to

1699
01:24:22,933 --> 01:24:24,692
Speaker 23: talk to you about your photo copies, and she goes

1700
01:24:24,732 --> 01:24:27,772
Speaker 23: not interested peaks so I went, Okay, thanks very much.

1701
01:24:27,853 --> 01:24:30,492
Speaker 5: And from the office I get this is that? Is

1702
01:24:30,492 --> 01:24:32,812
Speaker 5: that all you got? And I'm like, I sort of

1703
01:24:32,812 --> 01:24:37,013
Speaker 5: spot and Bob James see Bob Jones walks out and

1704
01:24:37,013 --> 01:24:37,333
Speaker 5: he goes.

1705
01:24:37,333 --> 01:24:38,133
Speaker 4: Is that a young fella?

1706
01:24:38,333 --> 01:24:39,532
Speaker 5: Is that how you're going to give up?

1707
01:24:40,253 --> 01:24:47,452
Speaker 22: And he goes like, holy shitt on there, And he

1708
01:24:47,532 --> 01:24:50,253
Speaker 22: sort of gave me this lesson on life about selling

1709
01:24:50,293 --> 01:24:52,652
Speaker 22: I guess moreso than the house, and gave me a

1710
01:24:52,652 --> 01:24:55,812
Speaker 22: couple of I guess training modules that I could do.

1711
01:24:55,933 --> 01:24:58,572
Speaker 22: And yeah, that was just just my experience with him.

1712
01:24:59,933 --> 01:25:02,093
Speaker 3: He was offended by your soft seal. Did that help

1713
01:25:02,213 --> 01:25:05,772
Speaker 3: you going forward? Were you a more robust sales person

1714
01:25:05,812 --> 01:25:06,253
Speaker 3: after that.

1715
01:25:07,492 --> 01:25:08,173
Speaker 22: Actually it did.

1716
01:25:08,933 --> 01:25:11,293
Speaker 23: I made a career out of selling, so so I

1717
01:25:12,293 --> 01:25:14,612
Speaker 23: think it was very much talking point.

1718
01:25:14,652 --> 01:25:15,692
Speaker 4: I think it was quite funny.

1719
01:25:15,812 --> 01:25:18,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, for truth and did you manage to sell him

1720
01:25:18,333 --> 01:25:25,452
Speaker 3: a photocopy of though? No great story?

1721
01:25:25,452 --> 01:25:30,972
Speaker 2: Thanks for sharing that, Steve absolutely, Pete have you Yeah.

1722
01:25:32,572 --> 01:25:36,052
Speaker 24: You know, it's just I give something to his family

1723
01:25:36,093 --> 01:25:38,253
Speaker 24: and that as well. You know, you're just such a

1724
01:25:38,333 --> 01:25:40,093
Speaker 24: light sort of a bloke, you know, displaying there a

1725
01:25:40,133 --> 01:25:42,532
Speaker 24: bit more guys like him out here in your jil David,

1726
01:25:42,933 --> 01:25:45,053
Speaker 24: he wouldn't be in the mess we are today. He's

1727
01:25:45,093 --> 01:25:48,892
Speaker 24: a straight shooter and all the spade a spade, and

1728
01:25:49,412 --> 01:25:52,572
Speaker 24: there's that many people around that who would say what

1729
01:25:52,612 --> 01:25:54,293
Speaker 24: he thinks. And in some way that's not a bad

1730
01:25:54,412 --> 01:25:57,732
Speaker 24: thing like he did, but you should say it shouldn't

1731
01:25:57,732 --> 01:26:00,013
Speaker 24: be able to say what you think otherwise, you know,

1732
01:26:01,213 --> 01:26:04,412
Speaker 24: he's just he's a finder and there's a bit like

1733
01:26:04,492 --> 01:26:07,452
Speaker 24: another billy to change of sitting people. I got some

1734
01:26:07,492 --> 01:26:09,572
Speaker 24: of those books and that, seeing like The Property Ladder

1735
01:26:09,612 --> 01:26:12,973
Speaker 24: and all that. He pretty good books as well, and

1736
01:26:13,093 --> 01:26:14,812
Speaker 24: I think a lot of people can learn from him.

1737
01:26:14,812 --> 01:26:16,732
Speaker 24: So just read some of his books and his books

1738
01:26:16,732 --> 01:26:20,612
Speaker 24: are quite yeah, quite knowledgeable, you know, just basic stuff.

1739
01:26:20,612 --> 01:26:23,412
Speaker 24: But he's a character. I say, when he got when

1740
01:26:23,492 --> 01:26:25,852
Speaker 24: he when that chopper flew and his fishing, well, that

1741
01:26:25,893 --> 01:26:27,452
Speaker 24: guy actually deserved a bit of a snack on the

1742
01:26:27,572 --> 01:26:31,772
Speaker 24: nose here he was fishing. Last thing you expect to

1743
01:26:31,772 --> 01:26:34,372
Speaker 24: be a topper come around and almost bend on your head.

1744
01:26:35,452 --> 01:26:37,852
Speaker 2: You've just got almost got something on the line. And

1745
01:26:37,893 --> 01:26:41,532
Speaker 2: then some punishing journalist comes in as helicopter. The arty questions, Yeah,

1746
01:26:41,732 --> 01:26:52,213
Speaker 2: probably deserve to punished.

1747
01:26:47,692 --> 01:26:50,773
Speaker 3: The nose too. It was the nose started bleeding immediately.

1748
01:26:50,812 --> 01:26:53,012
Speaker 3: But you know, good on Rod Vaughan the journalists for

1749
01:26:53,013 --> 01:26:55,532
Speaker 3: for doing the piece to camera with his nose bleeding.

1750
01:26:55,652 --> 01:26:58,293
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, al TV.

1751
01:26:58,372 --> 01:27:00,612
Speaker 3: You know, you know that's kind of the best thing

1752
01:27:00,612 --> 01:27:02,933
Speaker 3: that could happen to you if you want a story though. Yeah,

1753
01:27:02,452 --> 01:27:06,732
Speaker 3: you know, used to be a journalist, Tyler. Are you journalists?

1754
01:27:06,973 --> 01:27:07,173
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1755
01:27:07,412 --> 01:27:09,772
Speaker 2: No, no, no background of journalism, let's say that.

1756
01:27:09,893 --> 01:27:10,333
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

1757
01:27:10,372 --> 01:27:12,732
Speaker 3: Now you used to be in parliament talking to people,

1758
01:27:12,772 --> 01:27:13,093
Speaker 3: didn't you.

1759
01:27:13,173 --> 01:27:15,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and many people wanted to punch me in

1760
01:27:15,093 --> 01:27:17,572
Speaker 2: the face. Nobody did because it was you know, but but.

1761
01:27:17,532 --> 01:27:19,293
Speaker 3: If a politicians punches you in their face, you've got

1762
01:27:19,412 --> 01:27:21,052
Speaker 3: you've got the best story of the day exactly.

1763
01:27:21,133 --> 01:27:25,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, we go live Pete. Thanks very much mate. Uh,

1764
01:27:26,133 --> 01:27:27,812
Speaker 2: you've got time for Ruben Ruben.

1765
01:27:27,893 --> 01:27:28,093
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1766
01:27:28,093 --> 01:27:32,572
Speaker 3: Also from New Plymouth, big Bob Jones fans. You had

1767
01:27:32,572 --> 01:27:33,732
Speaker 3: some dealings with them in the eighties.

1768
01:27:34,812 --> 01:27:37,452
Speaker 10: Hey guys, Hey, this is an inn goat from a

1769
01:27:37,492 --> 01:27:40,852
Speaker 10: work colleague of mine. I'm not old enough the a

1770
01:27:41,013 --> 01:27:44,492
Speaker 10: nineteen eighty two and Partmouth and North Bob Jones was

1771
01:27:44,933 --> 01:27:50,293
Speaker 10: speaker at a real estate conference investing in commercial real

1772
01:27:50,412 --> 01:27:55,053
Speaker 10: estates and at the particular hotel that they're at. All

1773
01:27:55,133 --> 01:28:00,053
Speaker 10: the crowd wintowners a little last summer and they gave

1774
01:28:00,133 --> 01:28:03,333
Speaker 10: Bob Jones a end innovation. He takes the lec tune

1775
01:28:03,973 --> 01:28:07,532
Speaker 10: and he gets here and to sit down and he says, all.

1776
01:28:07,452 --> 01:28:09,372
Speaker 6: Those got because it's all blokes.

1777
01:28:09,692 --> 01:28:12,972
Speaker 10: All those guys were sunglasses and can you please Sam

1778
01:28:13,173 --> 01:28:17,053
Speaker 10: stand up? And he's got about twelve with them. Apparently

1779
01:28:17,412 --> 01:28:18,973
Speaker 10: they were looked at each other like what does he

1780
01:28:19,093 --> 01:28:21,093
Speaker 10: want with last week? They don't even thing to say,

1781
01:28:21,732 --> 01:28:25,133
Speaker 10: and he's like, Greg, your things, there is the door.

1782
01:28:25,213 --> 01:28:27,452
Speaker 10: You guys will even make it in commercial real estate.

1783
01:28:30,532 --> 01:28:33,732
Speaker 10: Every time I see perfuction of the sunglasses on the

1784
01:28:33,812 --> 01:28:36,572
Speaker 10: heat on their glassening, don't I always think of that,

1785
01:28:36,732 --> 01:28:39,972
Speaker 10: Bob Jones, he'd be cool story.

1786
01:28:40,053 --> 01:28:42,932
Speaker 3: So was that a big thing wearing sunglasses inside, because

1787
01:28:43,572 --> 01:28:43,852
Speaker 3: you know.

1788
01:28:44,053 --> 01:28:45,972
Speaker 2: I don't know, it is kind of a weird thing

1789
01:28:46,053 --> 01:28:47,972
Speaker 2: to do if you're inside and you've got the glasses

1790
01:28:47,973 --> 01:28:48,772
Speaker 2: on the top of the head.

1791
01:28:49,173 --> 01:28:51,293
Speaker 3: I don't know, I see the glasses were on the

1792
01:28:51,293 --> 01:28:51,772
Speaker 3: top of the head.

1793
01:28:51,812 --> 01:28:54,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, taking your sunnies off instead of taking your sunnies

1794
01:28:54,253 --> 01:28:56,173
Speaker 2: and putting them in your pocket or you know, Oh,

1795
01:28:56,253 --> 01:28:57,972
Speaker 2: I see I've got them on the top of your head.

1796
01:28:58,013 --> 01:28:59,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I get that. It's going to go well.

1797
01:28:59,893 --> 01:29:04,492
Speaker 3: Twelve people were in his speech wearing their sunglasses.

1798
01:29:03,973 --> 01:29:04,532
Speaker 2: On their eyes.

1799
01:29:04,652 --> 01:29:04,892
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1800
01:29:04,973 --> 01:29:06,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, I've got to say in defensive people that

1801
01:29:07,093 --> 01:29:10,372
Speaker 3: get caught wearing sunglasses in public on their eyes, some

1802
01:29:10,412 --> 01:29:13,372
Speaker 3: of them are people like me that we're prescription sunglasses

1803
01:29:13,412 --> 01:29:15,333
Speaker 3: and can't read the menu at the restaurant without their

1804
01:29:15,372 --> 01:29:16,013
Speaker 3: sunglasses on.

1805
01:29:16,053 --> 01:29:19,492
Speaker 2: All right, exactly a ther Oh, eight hundred eighty ten

1806
01:29:19,532 --> 01:29:21,412
Speaker 2: eighty is the number to call. Love your stories about

1807
01:29:21,452 --> 01:29:23,372
Speaker 2: Sir Bob Jones, who has sadly passed away at the

1808
01:29:23,412 --> 01:29:25,333
Speaker 2: age of eighty five. It's twenty past.

1809
01:29:25,213 --> 01:29:33,532
Speaker 1: Three Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1810
01:29:33,612 --> 01:29:35,732
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

1811
01:29:36,772 --> 01:29:38,772
Speaker 2: News Talk ZB, and we're talking about your memories of

1812
01:29:38,812 --> 01:29:41,333
Speaker 2: Sir Bob Jones, who has sadly passed away at the

1813
01:29:41,333 --> 01:29:42,093
Speaker 2: age of eighty five.

1814
01:29:42,492 --> 01:29:44,293
Speaker 3: This from Graham, Hey boys, I is to deliver Sir

1815
01:29:44,372 --> 01:29:46,892
Speaker 3: Bob's mail for many years as a courier. My best

1816
01:29:46,893 --> 01:29:49,812
Speaker 3: memory was Bob getting chased down Javoice key in a

1817
01:29:50,173 --> 01:29:53,412
Speaker 3: in wally heading to his building. He never stopped, drove

1818
01:29:53,452 --> 01:29:55,652
Speaker 3: into his basement. The cop followed on his bike, so

1819
01:29:55,732 --> 01:29:58,932
Speaker 3: Bob locked him in, putting the roller door down and

1820
01:29:58,973 --> 01:30:01,093
Speaker 3: going up to his private office and locking that too.

1821
01:30:01,772 --> 01:30:03,893
Speaker 3: The cop couldn't radio out from under the building, so

1822
01:30:03,973 --> 01:30:05,692
Speaker 3: it was in there for a while. Love the man,

1823
01:30:05,853 --> 01:30:08,972
Speaker 3: very straight up and clear, A great guy. He said

1824
01:30:09,013 --> 01:30:10,692
Speaker 3: what he believed in It's from Graham.

1825
01:30:10,732 --> 01:30:12,972
Speaker 2: That is a bold move in a column of Gary.

1826
01:30:13,372 --> 01:30:16,892
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean that could escalate towards some kind

1827
01:30:16,933 --> 01:30:20,492
Speaker 3: of police kidnapping situation, you know, and in the cold

1828
01:30:20,612 --> 01:30:23,773
Speaker 3: light of day and the harsh reality.

1829
01:30:23,372 --> 01:30:27,412
Speaker 2: Of the law, Yeah, could have gone sideways, Hi, guys,

1830
01:30:27,452 --> 01:30:27,892
Speaker 2: great show.

1831
01:30:27,933 --> 01:30:30,452
Speaker 3: Bob was a great writer. His columns were the only

1832
01:30:30,532 --> 01:30:33,213
Speaker 3: reason I ever paid real money for a copy of

1833
01:30:33,213 --> 01:30:34,572
Speaker 3: the n ZID Herald rip.

1834
01:30:35,213 --> 01:30:37,572
Speaker 2: He had some phenomenal columns. I mean, those columns got

1835
01:30:37,572 --> 01:30:42,972
Speaker 2: the whole country talking, no doubt about it. Never shake

1836
01:30:43,053 --> 01:30:45,452
Speaker 2: someone's hand for the first time with sunglasses on. It's rude.

1837
01:30:45,452 --> 01:30:48,093
Speaker 2: You need to look them in the eye. Okay, slightly

1838
01:30:48,133 --> 01:30:50,093
Speaker 2: side issue, but thank you very much.

1839
01:30:50,093 --> 01:30:50,293
Speaker 11: Bill.

1840
01:30:50,452 --> 01:30:53,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I knew someone you know talking about before

1841
01:30:53,213 --> 01:30:56,572
Speaker 3: about Bob Jones telling the people that had sunglasses on

1842
01:30:56,572 --> 01:30:58,853
Speaker 3: their head that they would never make it, and property

1843
01:30:59,452 --> 01:31:02,892
Speaker 3: I sent into a reporter into like it was not

1844
01:31:02,893 --> 01:31:06,053
Speaker 3: a reporter. He was sent into interview Bob Jones for

1845
01:31:06,093 --> 01:31:09,852
Speaker 3: this thing we were doing and Bo and the guy

1846
01:31:09,893 --> 01:31:12,772
Speaker 3: walked in and he was wearing these brown shoes that

1847
01:31:12,893 --> 01:31:15,692
Speaker 3: didn't look right with the suit and basically said, Bob

1848
01:31:15,772 --> 01:31:18,772
Speaker 3: James just ripped him an absolutely one about how terrible

1849
01:31:18,893 --> 01:31:19,412
Speaker 3: shoes were.

1850
01:31:19,412 --> 01:31:23,652
Speaker 2: That is terrifying. Wally, You worked with Subob.

1851
01:31:25,013 --> 01:31:30,652
Speaker 5: Well actually on Frontering local TV guy and I used

1852
01:31:30,692 --> 01:31:33,652
Speaker 5: to work for him. He called up one day and

1853
01:31:33,692 --> 01:31:36,173
Speaker 5: he couldn't watch his cricket. And that's back in the

1854
01:31:36,293 --> 01:31:40,412
Speaker 5: days where cricket was on TV one and what had happened.

1855
01:31:40,412 --> 01:31:42,772
Speaker 5: There'd been a bit of a bust up in the

1856
01:31:42,812 --> 01:31:48,253
Speaker 5: local Marrie radio station and transmitters were getting carted around

1857
01:31:48,293 --> 01:31:51,053
Speaker 5: the town and they were interfering with TV one, and

1858
01:31:51,532 --> 01:31:53,612
Speaker 5: I had to explain to him the reason why he

1859
01:31:53,652 --> 01:31:56,812
Speaker 5: couldn't watch his cricket was because of this local married

1860
01:31:56,893 --> 01:32:01,652
Speaker 5: radio station, and he went absolutely wold. He was sort

1861
01:32:01,652 --> 01:32:04,932
Speaker 5: of like rumpel Stiltskin. But anyway, I got the job

1862
01:32:05,013 --> 01:32:07,932
Speaker 5: fixed for him and he could watch his cricket. Because

1863
01:32:08,053 --> 01:32:11,652
Speaker 5: it was quite an icon Bob Jones's house. It's still

1864
01:32:11,692 --> 01:32:15,053
Speaker 5: now just known Aso's Bob Jones's house, and where's that

1865
01:32:15,133 --> 01:32:19,252
Speaker 5: relative to Juno's House? But yeah, it was quite interesting.

1866
01:32:19,772 --> 01:32:22,532
Speaker 2: Sorry, I was just going to say quite a beautiful.

1867
01:32:22,133 --> 01:32:29,492
Speaker 5: House, absolutely, yeah, And it was all done with sort

1868
01:32:29,532 --> 01:32:33,452
Speaker 5: of vaulted ceilings, but they weren't actually the roofline. There

1869
01:32:33,492 --> 01:32:36,652
Speaker 5: was a massive cavity above the house and it had

1870
01:32:37,013 --> 01:32:42,173
Speaker 5: shingled roof like in the American timber shingles. Yeah, it

1871
01:32:42,213 --> 01:32:45,013
Speaker 5: was a beautiful house and had a gardener worked for

1872
01:32:45,093 --> 01:32:46,813
Speaker 5: him and was immaculate.

1873
01:32:46,933 --> 01:32:50,052
Speaker 2: Yeah, and apart from the cricket incident, which was outside

1874
01:32:50,093 --> 01:32:51,732
Speaker 2: your control, and I'm sure he would have been very

1875
01:32:51,732 --> 01:32:53,652
Speaker 2: happy with you, Wally when you fixed it. Was he

1876
01:32:53,692 --> 01:32:54,772
Speaker 2: a good guy to work for.

1877
01:32:54,973 --> 01:32:58,772
Speaker 5: Harsh but fear he was very, very very good to

1878
01:32:58,772 --> 01:33:02,532
Speaker 5: work for. And what was interesting was it was in

1879
01:33:02,572 --> 01:33:06,412
Speaker 5: the days of handwritten invoices and when the invoice came

1880
01:33:06,452 --> 01:33:08,052
Speaker 5: back I think it was about one hundred and thirty

1881
01:33:08,093 --> 01:33:12,013
Speaker 5: dollars or something like that, every item he sent it

1882
01:33:12,053 --> 01:33:16,412
Speaker 5: to another TV crowd in Wellington and double checked that

1883
01:33:16,893 --> 01:33:20,532
Speaker 5: every item was the correct item and was the correct price.

1884
01:33:21,013 --> 01:33:24,173
Speaker 5: It had been all ticked off and the checker check

1885
01:33:24,213 --> 01:33:27,772
Speaker 5: it arrived, you know. So that's he always checked that

1886
01:33:28,093 --> 01:33:31,452
Speaker 5: he nae was fleecing them and they were doing what

1887
01:33:31,492 --> 01:33:32,253
Speaker 5: they said they did.

1888
01:33:33,013 --> 01:33:34,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting that you hear that with a lot

1889
01:33:34,772 --> 01:33:38,372
Speaker 3: of wealthy people. That I had a friend who recently

1890
01:33:39,732 --> 01:33:43,452
Speaker 3: served a billionaire here in New Zealand, right, and that

1891
01:33:43,732 --> 01:33:47,293
Speaker 3: the billionaire wouldn't payWave. I'm not paying that. I'm not

1892
01:33:47,333 --> 01:33:48,173
Speaker 3: paying the surcharge.

1893
01:33:48,612 --> 01:33:50,652
Speaker 2: He's funny, how stingy some rich people are.

1894
01:33:51,173 --> 01:33:53,173
Speaker 3: Had to stick it in the machine. I'm not paying

1895
01:33:53,173 --> 01:33:53,692
Speaker 3: the surch charge.

1896
01:33:53,692 --> 01:33:56,013
Speaker 2: I suppose that's very wealthy rights.

1897
01:33:56,572 --> 01:33:59,013
Speaker 3: Good day boys don't do much reading, but had to

1898
01:33:59,053 --> 01:34:01,732
Speaker 3: read one of Sir Bob Jones' books. Loved his quotes.

1899
01:34:02,053 --> 01:34:04,213
Speaker 3: One sticks in my mind about the annual one and

1900
01:34:04,253 --> 01:34:06,732
Speaker 3: fifty year floods. That's from John. Yeah, we are getting

1901
01:34:06,732 --> 01:34:09,173
Speaker 3: a lot of those right now, giving a lot of

1902
01:34:09,772 --> 01:34:10,852
Speaker 3: weather hype at the moment.

1903
01:34:11,612 --> 01:34:14,132
Speaker 2: Now, there's been a lot of talk about Rod Vaughan

1904
01:34:14,293 --> 01:34:16,973
Speaker 2: and that interaction with Bob Jones, so we've found a

1905
01:34:17,053 --> 01:34:19,852
Speaker 2: little bit of that audio here it is.

1906
01:34:21,173 --> 01:34:23,772
Speaker 25: Mister Jones is currently staying at his holiday home just

1907
01:34:23,853 --> 01:34:26,532
Speaker 25: north of Turangi. When we phoned him today we were

1908
01:34:26,532 --> 01:34:28,932
Speaker 25: told he was out fishing and wouldn't be back until

1909
01:34:28,933 --> 01:34:31,932
Speaker 25: early this evening, so we charted a helicopter to try

1910
01:34:31,973 --> 01:34:34,652
Speaker 25: and find him. It was our intention to interview him

1911
01:34:34,652 --> 01:34:37,213
Speaker 25: about the events over the past few days regarding the

1912
01:34:37,293 --> 01:34:40,293
Speaker 25: decision of point mucidents for the most popular potical party

1913
01:34:40,412 --> 01:34:44,052
Speaker 25: in the recess. Mister Jones was a big load features

1914
01:34:44,053 --> 01:34:47,492
Speaker 25: of Big tom Rorero River. As we arrived overhead, he

1915
01:34:47,612 --> 01:34:49,612
Speaker 25: left the river and we landed on.

1916
01:34:49,572 --> 01:34:50,173
Speaker 4: The river bank.

1917
01:34:51,452 --> 01:34:53,812
Speaker 25: Before we could speak to him, mister Jones ran out

1918
01:34:53,853 --> 01:34:55,253
Speaker 25: of the trees and towards the camera.

1919
01:34:56,853 --> 01:35:16,333
Speaker 8: Hey, well that's just where we found Off Jones. By

1920
01:35:16,372 --> 01:35:18,093
Speaker 8: the mans of the river here and this is what

1921
01:35:18,213 --> 01:35:19,252
Speaker 8: they got troubles.

1922
01:35:19,692 --> 01:35:20,813
Speaker 11: Just what it's made.

1923
01:35:22,652 --> 01:35:23,052
Speaker 20: The ground.

1924
01:35:25,652 --> 01:35:27,052
Speaker 2: What an incredible situation.

1925
01:35:27,173 --> 01:35:30,213
Speaker 3: Incredible broke Rod Vaughan's nose in this piece of came

1926
01:35:30,293 --> 01:35:32,133
Speaker 3: that you can't see. I thoroughly recommend you look up

1927
01:35:32,133 --> 01:35:35,732
Speaker 3: this footage on New Zealand on screen dot com. You

1928
01:35:35,772 --> 01:35:38,892
Speaker 3: can find it there. He's got blood from above his

1929
01:35:38,973 --> 01:35:42,692
Speaker 3: eyebrows right down past his chinney. He really got clocked

1930
01:35:43,093 --> 01:35:47,572
Speaker 3: that that that that Rod Vaughn. But even hell of

1931
01:35:47,572 --> 01:35:48,372
Speaker 3: a story he did.

1932
01:35:48,452 --> 01:35:50,892
Speaker 2: But they're footage of Sir Bob jumping out of the

1933
01:35:50,893 --> 01:35:53,612
Speaker 2: trees and it literally was it was like saysquatch coming

1934
01:35:53,692 --> 01:35:55,972
Speaker 2: out of the trees, just running it straight at Rod

1935
01:35:56,013 --> 01:35:57,293
Speaker 2: warn It's incredible.

1936
01:35:57,612 --> 01:36:00,492
Speaker 3: Well he has the guy's fishing and he's flowing this

1937
01:36:00,532 --> 01:36:02,812
Speaker 3: helicopter and when you see the footage, he's right over

1938
01:36:02,893 --> 01:36:05,093
Speaker 3: they're buzzing over the top of bond giants. You can

1939
01:36:05,133 --> 01:36:06,892
Speaker 3: see why he got angry.

1940
01:36:07,013 --> 01:36:09,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, but boy he read well he did get in.

1941
01:36:09,452 --> 01:36:11,492
Speaker 3: He did get Rod Vaughan in the face, that's for sure.

1942
01:36:11,532 --> 01:36:16,132
Speaker 2: He certainly did. You can go and see that footage

1943
01:36:16,133 --> 01:36:18,013
Speaker 2: as well as New Zealand on screen right. Thank you

1944
01:36:18,173 --> 01:36:21,612
Speaker 2: very much for all your texts and memories about Sir Bob.

1945
01:36:21,612 --> 01:36:25,172
Speaker 2: We've got headlines coming up. It is twenty nine past three.

1946
01:36:27,812 --> 01:36:31,412
Speaker 12: US talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis It's

1947
01:36:31,532 --> 01:36:35,333
Speaker 12: no trouble with a blue bubble. Prominent businessman, author and

1948
01:36:35,452 --> 01:36:39,372
Speaker 12: former politician, Sir Robert Edward Jones, better known as Sir

1949
01:36:39,412 --> 01:36:43,213
Speaker 12: Bob Jones, has died. The eighty five year old died

1950
01:36:43,253 --> 01:36:46,892
Speaker 12: peacefully at his Wellington home, surrounded by family after a

1951
01:36:46,933 --> 01:36:50,852
Speaker 12: brief illness. Some reprieve from the wild weather heading into

1952
01:36:50,853 --> 01:36:54,133
Speaker 12: the weekend, Met Services now lifted all of its heavy

1953
01:36:54,213 --> 01:36:57,572
Speaker 12: rain warnings. Christ Church and Selwyn remain under a state

1954
01:36:57,572 --> 01:37:02,373
Speaker 12: of emergency. Talks continue today. In the senior doctor's ongoing

1955
01:37:02,412 --> 01:37:05,892
Speaker 12: pay dispute, more than five thousand senior doctors walked off

1956
01:37:05,933 --> 01:37:09,692
Speaker 12: the job around the country yesterday, delays to thousands of

1957
01:37:09,732 --> 01:37:14,412
Speaker 12: planned procedures. Westpac Bank's been fine more than three million

1958
01:37:14,452 --> 01:37:18,853
Speaker 12: dollars after twenty four thousand people were misled and overcharged

1959
01:37:19,093 --> 01:37:24,213
Speaker 12: more than six million dollars. The electoral Commissions confirmed Freedom's

1960
01:37:24,213 --> 01:37:27,572
Speaker 12: New Zealand, the party led by Destiny Churches Brian Parmicky,

1961
01:37:27,853 --> 01:37:30,933
Speaker 12: has been canceled as a registered political Party at the

1962
01:37:30,973 --> 01:37:35,772
Speaker 12: party's request, the All Black starting fifteen, Horaza will pick

1963
01:37:35,772 --> 01:37:38,692
Speaker 12: his team and who's vying for spots. You can find

1964
01:37:38,772 --> 01:37:41,732
Speaker 12: ut at NZ Herald Premium. Back now to Matt Eath

1965
01:37:41,772 --> 01:37:42,652
Speaker 12: and Tyler Adams.

1966
01:37:42,692 --> 01:37:45,052
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we've been talking about

1967
01:37:45,213 --> 01:37:47,692
Speaker 2: Sir Bob Jones, will sadly passed away at the age

1968
01:37:47,853 --> 01:37:50,892
Speaker 2: of eighty five, and we played a little bit of

1969
01:37:51,732 --> 01:37:55,732
Speaker 2: the very infamous Rod Vaughan interaction with sub Jones while

1970
01:37:55,732 --> 01:37:56,293
Speaker 2: he was fishing.

1971
01:37:56,372 --> 01:38:01,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, back in nineteen eighty five when Sir

1972
01:38:01,173 --> 01:38:03,732
Speaker 3: Bob Jones had decided to take a eighteen month recess

1973
01:38:03,732 --> 01:38:08,253
Speaker 3: that ended up being a complete recess from the New

1974
01:38:08,492 --> 01:38:12,173
Speaker 3: Zealand Party. But being a z B a person that

1975
01:38:12,293 --> 01:38:15,093
Speaker 3: was actually there during that incident that we just played,

1976
01:38:15,093 --> 01:38:16,572
Speaker 3: the audio is on the.

1977
01:38:16,572 --> 01:38:21,253
Speaker 2: Phone, John for now celebrated chopper pilots. How are you

1978
01:38:21,333 --> 01:38:21,972
Speaker 2: good afternoon?

1979
01:38:25,013 --> 01:38:28,813
Speaker 3: So tell us about this whole situation from your perspective,

1980
01:38:29,013 --> 01:38:32,052
Speaker 3: were you were flying the chopper that had Rod Vaughan

1981
01:38:32,253 --> 01:38:34,132
Speaker 3: and the cameraman on board.

1982
01:38:36,013 --> 01:38:41,293
Speaker 5: That's great. Bob had unbeknownst to me that I'd been

1983
01:38:41,333 --> 01:38:46,372
Speaker 5: trying to contact or he was Bob in those days

1984
01:38:46,572 --> 01:38:50,213
Speaker 5: and tur inter viewing, and he just really wanted up

1985
01:38:50,213 --> 01:38:52,372
Speaker 5: at a piece and quiet and get away from the media.

1986
01:38:53,093 --> 01:38:57,692
Speaker 5: He had achieved commencing what he had done with that party.

1987
01:38:58,452 --> 01:39:01,053
Speaker 5: It commits what he wanted to achieve, and he was

1988
01:39:01,333 --> 01:39:04,812
Speaker 5: treated treated to the Tongra River to enjoy a bit

1989
01:39:04,853 --> 01:39:08,692
Speaker 5: of quiet fishing. And we pretty readily interrupt, did they?

1990
01:39:11,253 --> 01:39:13,132
Speaker 3: Yeah, because when you look at the footage, it looks

1991
01:39:13,213 --> 01:39:16,732
Speaker 3: like you flew over the top of him first with

1992
01:39:16,772 --> 01:39:21,892
Speaker 3: the cameraman filming before you landed to let the Rod

1993
01:39:21,933 --> 01:39:25,412
Speaker 3: Vaughn and the cameraman out. Is that correct, John, Yeah,

1994
01:39:25,412 --> 01:39:26,012
Speaker 3: that's correct.

1995
01:39:26,452 --> 01:39:30,093
Speaker 5: We had to find him first. They somehow knew that

1996
01:39:30,133 --> 01:39:33,333
Speaker 5: he was on the river, and I assume from that

1997
01:39:33,333 --> 01:39:36,532
Speaker 5: that that had been pre arranged. But it was a

1998
01:39:36,532 --> 01:39:39,892
Speaker 5: bit of a surprise later when it obviously hadn't been

1999
01:39:39,933 --> 01:39:42,972
Speaker 5: pre arranged when the urgent drop place when they tried

2000
01:39:42,973 --> 01:39:47,452
Speaker 5: to interview him. That was a less welcoming for the

2001
01:39:47,532 --> 01:39:48,492
Speaker 5: TV crew.

2002
01:39:48,772 --> 01:39:50,933
Speaker 2: I bet. And so where were you, John? Were you

2003
01:39:51,053 --> 01:39:54,812
Speaker 2: and the and the chopper when Sir Bob launches out

2004
01:39:54,893 --> 01:39:57,572
Speaker 2: of the bushes and runs straight at Rod Vaughn.

2005
01:39:59,772 --> 01:40:03,293
Speaker 5: Correct? I was carrying in the helicopter keeping the east

2006
01:40:03,333 --> 01:40:06,053
Speaker 5: and running getting ready to take off and leave the

2007
01:40:06,093 --> 01:40:08,492
Speaker 5: scene as quickly as I could. I did from one

2008
01:40:08,572 --> 01:40:11,052
Speaker 5: moment when I first started, I thought, well, you can't

2009
01:40:11,053 --> 01:40:14,732
Speaker 5: do that. I need to stop that. But he was

2010
01:40:14,853 --> 01:40:17,213
Speaker 5: even though he was stressed up and all his fishing

2011
01:40:17,253 --> 01:40:22,452
Speaker 5: gear and parkers, he effects right born pretty quickly and

2012
01:40:22,452 --> 01:40:25,732
Speaker 5: then attempted to snatch the camera off the cameraman and

2013
01:40:26,253 --> 01:40:28,933
Speaker 5: I assume the attempt to throd in the river, but

2014
01:40:29,013 --> 01:40:33,572
Speaker 5: the cameraman held onto that quite firmly, and I was

2015
01:40:33,572 --> 01:40:35,372
Speaker 5: trying to get them in the helicopter and get out

2016
01:40:35,372 --> 01:40:37,452
Speaker 5: of there, because by that time I was aware of

2017
01:40:37,452 --> 01:40:42,892
Speaker 5: that we weren't welcome and it wasn't going to be

2018
01:40:42,933 --> 01:40:46,133
Speaker 5: good for anyone involved. And of course it subsequently ended

2019
01:40:46,213 --> 01:40:50,852
Speaker 5: up and charges of assault and all sorts of nonsense

2020
01:40:50,893 --> 01:40:55,133
Speaker 5: going on, and I was interviewed several times by the

2021
01:40:55,173 --> 01:40:57,652
Speaker 5: police to be pretty careful what I said and did.

2022
01:40:58,293 --> 01:41:00,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, and hadly your fault. You've just been you've just

2023
01:41:00,692 --> 01:41:03,572
Speaker 3: been hired to fly the helicopter, and so right Bourne,

2024
01:41:03,572 --> 01:41:05,812
Speaker 3: there's that kind of footage that that we were just

2025
01:41:05,853 --> 01:41:07,852
Speaker 3: We just played the audio of it, but people can

2026
01:41:07,893 --> 01:41:11,213
Speaker 3: see the the video of it at New Zealand on screen.

2027
01:41:11,572 --> 01:41:14,532
Speaker 3: But there's the iconic footage of Rod Vaughan just bleeding

2028
01:41:14,532 --> 01:41:17,372
Speaker 3: from above his eyebrows, right through his nose, right down

2029
01:41:17,412 --> 01:41:21,012
Speaker 3: to his below his chin, so he got absolutely clocked.

2030
01:41:21,173 --> 01:41:24,372
Speaker 3: Was that footage filmed where you were or did you

2031
01:41:24,372 --> 01:41:26,532
Speaker 3: get into the helicopter? Did they you know, everyone get

2032
01:41:26,572 --> 01:41:28,492
Speaker 3: into the helicopter and you flew off somewhere rouse to

2033
01:41:28,532 --> 01:41:30,892
Speaker 3: film that that that piece to camera.

2034
01:41:33,492 --> 01:41:37,492
Speaker 5: Bob administered the justices he saw it and retreated back

2035
01:41:37,532 --> 01:41:41,133
Speaker 5: into the bush and Iris trying to convince Ride and

2036
01:41:41,173 --> 01:41:44,053
Speaker 5: the camera and to climb on board and get it there.

2037
01:41:44,253 --> 01:41:46,412
Speaker 5: But right wasn't going to have a barrow that he

2038
01:41:46,492 --> 01:41:47,333
Speaker 5: wanted to get us.

2039
01:41:47,253 --> 01:41:49,133
Speaker 2: But to go to air at night, I be.

2040
01:41:50,572 --> 01:41:53,093
Speaker 5: That happened right at the scene, and that's why you

2041
01:41:53,133 --> 01:41:56,053
Speaker 5: can hear the engine running in the background, because I

2042
01:41:56,253 --> 01:41:59,652
Speaker 5: wasn't prepared to shut it down so they could get

2043
01:42:01,093 --> 01:42:03,412
Speaker 5: I was more interested in getting down there, but I

2044
01:42:03,452 --> 01:42:06,412
Speaker 5: didn't want to abandon the TV one crew.

2045
01:42:08,333 --> 01:42:10,572
Speaker 3: It's a long walk on It's like Vietnam, no man

2046
01:42:10,652 --> 01:42:12,772
Speaker 3: left behind. You were just going to get out of there.

2047
01:42:13,293 --> 01:42:16,492
Speaker 3: Was there any John, Was there any chat from from

2048
01:42:16,572 --> 01:42:19,333
Speaker 3: Rod Vaughner The cameraman. But while you're flying and concerned

2049
01:42:19,333 --> 01:42:22,093
Speaker 3: that that buzzing and guy fishing a helicopter might be

2050
01:42:22,452 --> 01:42:24,093
Speaker 3: might be a step too far, might be a bit

2051
01:42:24,093 --> 01:42:26,733
Speaker 3: of an invasion of his privacy.

2052
01:42:28,293 --> 01:42:31,732
Speaker 5: Well, damas lead to malay. They said that spoken to

2053
01:42:31,812 --> 01:42:37,093
Speaker 5: his wife, and IRIS assumed that a prival have been

2054
01:42:37,133 --> 01:42:41,372
Speaker 5: granted because you really just can't or probably shouldn't go

2055
01:42:41,452 --> 01:42:45,492
Speaker 5: and harass someone trying to seek a bit of quiet

2056
01:42:45,572 --> 01:42:49,412
Speaker 5: fishing in a backwater of the Tongara River and just

2057
01:42:49,933 --> 01:42:51,812
Speaker 5: laying not and ounce on them. And I assumed that

2058
01:42:52,412 --> 01:42:55,492
Speaker 5: he would have been welcoming. I see, of course, a

2059
01:42:55,612 --> 01:43:00,333
Speaker 5: real surprise when we had the opposite type of welcoming,

2060
01:43:00,452 --> 01:43:03,812
Speaker 5: you know, because being a pretty active man and a

2061
01:43:03,853 --> 01:43:08,333
Speaker 5: former boxer, he was taking no personal He meant.

2062
01:43:09,133 --> 01:43:12,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, did you did you work with Rod Vaughan

2063
01:43:12,853 --> 01:43:15,412
Speaker 3: again in the future and episode? Did you did you

2064
01:43:15,532 --> 01:43:18,173
Speaker 3: question a bit more thoroughly where you were going?

2065
01:43:20,093 --> 01:43:23,412
Speaker 5: I saw right a number of times I was somewhat

2066
01:43:23,452 --> 01:43:28,092
Speaker 5: reluctant to too too much filming. It was my early

2067
01:43:28,173 --> 01:43:32,652
Speaker 5: days of operating the helicopter on my own, and you know,

2068
01:43:32,692 --> 01:43:36,652
Speaker 5: there's quite expensive costs. We're involved trying to defeat my

2069
01:43:36,732 --> 01:43:38,093
Speaker 5: position because civil.

2070
01:43:37,853 --> 01:43:40,052
Speaker 11: Aviation we're wanting to, yeah right.

2071
01:43:40,133 --> 01:43:44,692
Speaker 5: Prosecute me, and so I had to be pretty caref

2072
01:43:44,772 --> 01:43:48,253
Speaker 5: I meansally actually ended up being a witness for Sir

2073
01:43:48,333 --> 01:43:51,532
Speaker 5: Bob Right and his charge of assault.

2074
01:43:51,732 --> 01:43:57,372
Speaker 3: So are you you were brought in by the defense, correct?

2075
01:43:57,612 --> 01:43:57,812
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2076
01:43:57,893 --> 01:43:59,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, thank you so much for sharing your story

2077
01:43:59,973 --> 01:44:02,972
Speaker 3: with us. John really really appreciated, and you know, I'm

2078
01:44:03,013 --> 01:44:05,932
Speaker 3: pretty amazing to be there for such an iconic moment

2079
01:44:06,013 --> 01:44:07,012
Speaker 3: in New Zealand history.

2080
01:44:09,053 --> 01:44:10,013
Speaker 5: Yeah, the thrills and.

2081
01:44:12,973 --> 01:44:15,253
Speaker 2: Exactly, John, thank you very much for in a chat

2082
01:44:15,253 --> 01:44:17,372
Speaker 2: with us. That is, of course John for Now one

2083
01:44:17,372 --> 01:44:20,252
Speaker 2: of New Zealand's best know on and longest serving helicopter pilots,

2084
01:44:20,253 --> 01:44:24,452
Speaker 2: who was the chopper pilot during the infamous infamous Rod

2085
01:44:24,532 --> 01:44:27,293
Speaker 2: Vaughan versus Sue Bob incident. By the way, they did

2086
01:44:27,333 --> 01:44:30,133
Speaker 2: make up later in life. It's fair to say Rod

2087
01:44:30,173 --> 01:44:32,972
Speaker 2: Vaughan and Sue Bob, which says a lot about both men.

2088
01:44:33,013 --> 01:44:35,692
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, absolutely, and make sure you check it

2089
01:44:35,692 --> 01:44:39,093
Speaker 3: out in New Zealand on screen dot Com. I find

2090
01:44:39,093 --> 01:44:39,852
Speaker 3: it very musically.

2091
01:44:39,893 --> 01:44:45,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is an incredible footage icon It is twenty

2092
01:44:45,492 --> 01:44:47,012
Speaker 2: to fourback very shortly here on news talks.

2093
01:44:47,013 --> 01:44:47,293
Speaker 4: He'd be.

2094
01:44:48,893 --> 01:44:52,412
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2095
01:44:52,612 --> 01:44:56,452
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used

2096
01:44:56,452 --> 01:44:57,972
Speaker 1: Talks'd be good afternoon.

2097
01:44:58,013 --> 01:45:00,173
Speaker 2: We're getting in some great stories and memories about Sir

2098
01:45:00,293 --> 01:45:02,692
Speaker 2: Bob Jones, who was sadly passed away at the age

2099
01:45:02,692 --> 01:45:04,972
Speaker 2: of eighty five, surrounded by his family at his home

2100
01:45:05,093 --> 01:45:06,053
Speaker 2: in Wellington.

2101
01:45:06,213 --> 01:45:09,412
Speaker 3: We've had a lot about that. That story, the punching

2102
01:45:09,412 --> 01:45:12,092
Speaker 3: of Rod Vaughan by Sir Bob Well, he was fishing

2103
01:45:12,093 --> 01:45:15,452
Speaker 3: near Too Dongy, And we now know the pilot, the

2104
01:45:15,452 --> 01:45:18,492
Speaker 3: helicopter pilot, and we know the reporter. But does as

2105
01:45:18,532 --> 01:45:21,053
Speaker 3: this Texas says, Brian, does anyone know the camera man's

2106
01:45:21,133 --> 01:45:23,572
Speaker 3: name from that story. That's the only person we don't

2107
01:45:23,572 --> 01:45:24,253
Speaker 3: know from that story.

2108
01:45:24,293 --> 01:45:25,612
Speaker 2: I've got it in front of me. His name was

2109
01:45:25,652 --> 01:45:26,253
Speaker 2: Peter Mayo.

2110
01:45:26,412 --> 01:45:26,972
Speaker 3: Peter Mayo.

2111
01:45:27,053 --> 01:45:29,093
Speaker 2: Peter Mayo was the camera man who got a bit

2112
01:45:29,133 --> 01:45:34,892
Speaker 2: of a swing as well, apparently just not camera. Some

2113
01:45:34,973 --> 01:45:36,492
Speaker 2: great texts coming through. We'll get to a few of

2114
01:45:36,492 --> 01:45:38,932
Speaker 2: those in a minute. But Jeremy, you used to fish

2115
01:45:38,973 --> 01:45:39,692
Speaker 2: with su Bob.

2116
01:45:40,973 --> 01:45:45,293
Speaker 6: Yes, Well, good afternoon everybody and listeners, etc. I was

2117
01:45:45,612 --> 01:45:50,333
Speaker 6: had the pleasure of meeting Robert Jones and Too Ringy

2118
01:45:50,412 --> 01:45:56,932
Speaker 6: and the company of my father I pen Rice years ago,

2119
01:45:58,253 --> 01:46:00,372
Speaker 6: who was the bank manager at why Ca and I

2120
01:46:01,333 --> 01:46:04,412
Speaker 6: but also at tie Happy. So then the congregation of

2121
01:46:05,333 --> 01:46:09,812
Speaker 6: those men around those situations would meet at Too Ranging

2122
01:46:09,853 --> 01:46:15,812
Speaker 6: and then of course Sabob would commander Major Jones Paul.

2123
01:46:15,812 --> 01:46:17,612
Speaker 6: But there are the other men fishing, et cetera. And

2124
01:46:17,612 --> 01:46:20,732
Speaker 6: then those men were notable men and very good men

2125
01:46:20,772 --> 01:46:24,492
Speaker 6: on the fly at four am in the morning and

2126
01:46:24,652 --> 01:46:29,412
Speaker 6: then quite perilous conditions, et cetera. And then watching all

2127
01:46:29,452 --> 01:46:33,293
Speaker 6: of those sorts of things and then having some mild

2128
01:46:33,293 --> 01:46:34,772
Speaker 6: discussions with those guys.

2129
01:46:34,812 --> 01:46:36,093
Speaker 4: They got on very very well.

2130
01:46:36,652 --> 01:46:41,213
Speaker 6: And of course there was lots of cigarette smoking et cetera,

2131
01:46:42,532 --> 01:46:46,293
Speaker 6: because he was you know, he was a smoke and

2132
01:46:46,293 --> 01:46:48,892
Speaker 6: so was my father, et cetera. And you know, they

2133
01:46:48,933 --> 01:46:53,093
Speaker 6: could be walking the waterways, et cetera, and then you know,

2134
01:46:53,173 --> 01:46:56,452
Speaker 6: occasional courts. But you were dead right in the summary

2135
01:46:56,532 --> 01:47:00,093
Speaker 6: that you've given previously, he was a very private man, etcetera.

2136
01:47:00,652 --> 01:47:03,333
Speaker 6: But then I know from being the son of a

2137
01:47:03,372 --> 01:47:06,012
Speaker 6: bank manager et cetera, and then having the acquaintance et cetera,

2138
01:47:06,093 --> 01:47:08,133
Speaker 6: and sitting on the outside that he was a very

2139
01:47:08,853 --> 01:47:13,452
Speaker 6: he was a very generous and kind and empathetic person

2140
01:47:13,732 --> 01:47:17,972
Speaker 6: and was much respected and helped many of the people

2141
01:47:17,973 --> 01:47:21,293
Speaker 6: in the community in to any et cetera. And then

2142
01:47:21,372 --> 01:47:24,692
Speaker 6: had quite great respects. And then of course, you know

2143
01:47:24,732 --> 01:47:27,452
Speaker 6: it was a great boxer and those sorts of things.

2144
01:47:27,492 --> 01:47:29,333
Speaker 6: So and then we've heard the other stories. There's no

2145
01:47:29,412 --> 01:47:32,572
Speaker 6: need to go into that. But then the interesting thing

2146
01:47:32,692 --> 01:47:36,773
Speaker 6: is several years ago or some years ago, when he

2147
01:47:37,173 --> 01:47:41,372
Speaker 6: ventured into the building of the building in Wellington which

2148
01:47:41,372 --> 01:47:44,333
Speaker 6: he wanted to do in all timber, I managed to

2149
01:47:44,692 --> 01:47:47,333
Speaker 6: talk and discuss that with them, et cetera, because he

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Speaker 6: actually built the Robert Jonestown Auckland, et cetera. And that

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Speaker 6: was a building that I was involved with the control

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01:47:54,093 --> 01:47:57,173
Speaker 6: systems company that I was working for. And then so

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Speaker 6: I got into discussions with him with this building in Wellington.

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Speaker 6: I think he was slightly frustrated around you planning laws

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01:48:03,732 --> 01:48:06,372
Speaker 6: and trastic so far and things, and then it couldn't

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01:48:06,412 --> 01:48:10,172
Speaker 6: really be achieved when the time, you know, I discussed

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01:48:10,173 --> 01:48:14,972
Speaker 6: with him as interest in building you know, very very

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Speaker 6: important structures and a very confined and restricted space. And

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Speaker 6: then he was a very brilliant man. He's actually a

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Speaker 6: brilliant architect and work with architects and things, and so

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Speaker 6: then I think that, you know, he had great respect.

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Speaker 6: And then particularly with other people as well that were

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Speaker 6: around in that area. There was another chap called Bob Jones,

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Speaker 6: who was famous, et cetera, master mariner that drove there

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Speaker 6: her across the straight, et cetera, under circumstances which were

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01:48:51,213 --> 01:48:53,253
Speaker 6: you know, have been in the media and whatever. So

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01:48:53,333 --> 01:48:55,692
Speaker 6: then all of those men, all of those men would

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Speaker 6: congregate for a you know, for you for drinks at

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Speaker 6: the end of it. And then my father always liked

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Speaker 6: to have a little drink, et cetera, but he actually

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01:49:04,492 --> 01:49:08,452
Speaker 6: liked to have his dinner and a Geordy boy. But

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Speaker 6: then mister Jones would say, you were just hang on

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Speaker 6: and just you know, we're just gonna we're just going

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Speaker 6: to punish this conversation and then you can you then

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Speaker 6: you can have you with much much for bolity and unpal.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like it. Yeah, Jeremy, great stories. Thank you very much,

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Speaker 2: and thank you to everyone who phoned and called on

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Speaker 2: sir Bob some great stories and who was a very

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Speaker 2: much an icon of New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, on the Matta Tylis afternoons on zb

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01:49:36,452 --> 01:49:41,893
Speaker 3: almost saved yourself. We always have the New Zealand of

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Speaker 3: the Week on a Friday. But before we start Today's

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Speaker 3: New Zealand of the Week, we have our first in

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Speaker 3: memori am section, as Sir Bob Jones passed away at

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Speaker 3: eighty five, surrounded by family after a short illness. So

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Speaker 3: Sir Bob Jones, businessman, politician, boxing fan, fisherman, speaker, philanthropist, smoker, drinker,

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Speaker 3: great writer, thinker and author. They're great. The term great

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01:50:03,612 --> 01:50:05,532
Speaker 3: New Zealander is bandied about a lot these days, but

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Speaker 3: Sir Bob Jones was undoubtedly one of a kind. We'll

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Speaker 3: never get another, Sir Bob, So the truly great New Zealander,

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01:50:12,692 --> 01:50:17,812
Speaker 3: Rip beautifully said. It is twelve two four every Friday

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Speaker 3: on Matt and Tyler afternoons on ZIBB we name the

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Speaker 3: New Zealander of the Week in honor that we bestow

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Speaker 3: on your behalf to a newsmaker who has had an

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Speaker 3: outsized effect on our great and beautiful little nation. As always,

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01:50:28,053 --> 01:50:31,372
Speaker 3: there will be three nominees, but only one winner. And remember,

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Speaker 3: like the Time magazine and the Kiwibank yearly humiliators. The

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Speaker 3: ZBVOS New Zealand of the Week isn't always an agent

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Speaker 3: of good. Sometimes the nominees are awesome often awful, So,

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01:50:41,893 --> 01:50:44,532
Speaker 3: without further adue, the nominees for Matt and Tyler Afternoons

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Speaker 3: New Zealand of the Week are nominee one also gets

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01:50:48,253 --> 01:50:51,173
Speaker 3: the Self Belief against the Odds Award. Her city is

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01:50:51,213 --> 01:50:53,333
Speaker 3: a mess, she is the lowest approval rating of any

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01:50:53,372 --> 01:50:55,812
Speaker 3: mayor ever, and she's the only person in New Zealand

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01:50:55,812 --> 01:50:58,732
Speaker 3: who could make Andrew Little seem like an exciting option.

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01:50:59,013 --> 01:51:03,853
Speaker 3: But one person thinks she's amazing, and that is herself.

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01:51:04,093 --> 01:51:06,732
Speaker 3: In fact, this week, Mia torri Fano has given her

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01:51:06,772 --> 01:51:11,092
Speaker 3: performance an impressive nine out of ten. For celebrating yourself

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Speaker 3: with a nine when everyone else thinks you're a negative five,

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Speaker 3: Tory Fano, you are nominated.

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01:51:15,812 --> 01:51:19,213
Speaker 2: For New Zealander of the Week.

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01:51:21,173 --> 01:51:25,972
Speaker 3: If Onny your competence matched your confidence, you could really

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01:51:26,013 --> 01:51:29,333
Speaker 3: achieve great things. Norminy too gets the Media beat up

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01:51:29,412 --> 01:51:32,692
Speaker 3: on a good old fashioned beat up award. There's a

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01:51:32,812 --> 01:51:35,933
Speaker 3: combat sport coming in which a runner and attacker collde

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01:51:36,053 --> 01:51:39,253
Speaker 3: on a twenty meter battlefield and no surprises. The chicken

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01:51:39,293 --> 01:51:42,293
Speaker 3: lickens are coming out of the woodwork to panic harden

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01:51:42,333 --> 01:51:45,412
Speaker 3: up New Zealand. Thousands of people already straightened the attack on

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01:51:45,492 --> 01:51:48,772
Speaker 3: rugby grounds nationwide every weekend. Some have called it the

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01:51:48,853 --> 01:51:51,892
Speaker 3: dumber sport. Ever, real Kewis have been doing this kind

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01:51:51,893 --> 01:51:55,372
Speaker 3: of thing safely forever. So I take it up the guts,

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01:51:55,412 --> 01:51:58,613
Speaker 3: run at Championship League your legends. You have been nominated

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01:51:58,652 --> 01:52:00,133
Speaker 3: for New Zealander of the Week.

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01:52:00,253 --> 01:52:02,653
Speaker 2: Yes, world ah.

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01:52:02,173 --> 01:52:05,892
Speaker 3: Say it up there, run it straight all right, but

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01:52:05,933 --> 01:52:10,412
Speaker 3: there can be only one winner, woo, and the winner

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01:52:10,452 --> 01:52:14,253
Speaker 3: also gets the never Gonna Happen Mate Award. For the

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01:52:14,293 --> 01:52:18,572
Speaker 3: first time in a century, Cackapool have been heard booming

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01:52:18,732 --> 01:52:22,572
Speaker 3: on the North Island's mainland. Booming is a mating ritual

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01:52:22,612 --> 01:52:24,532
Speaker 3: in which the male bird sits in a hole and

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01:52:24,572 --> 01:52:28,813
Speaker 3: makes a low frequency sound, hoping to attract a mate. Amusingly,

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01:52:28,812 --> 01:52:31,293
Speaker 3: there are no females at the Manga Tutari Sanctury, so

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01:52:31,652 --> 01:52:34,492
Speaker 3: good luck getting any action. Boys forgetting going to go

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01:52:34,532 --> 01:52:36,732
Speaker 3: with the ladies with no hope of success, like so

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01:52:37,093 --> 01:52:41,293
Speaker 3: many of us Kiwi males before you. Mainland booming krkapaw

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01:52:41,812 --> 01:52:46,093
Speaker 3: you are the Matt and Tyler. Afternoons, New Zealanders of

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01:52:46,293 --> 01:52:49,892
Speaker 3: the wee. Those of us who grew up in rural

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01:52:49,893 --> 01:52:53,732
Speaker 3: New Zealand communities know exactly what those carcapol are going through.

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01:52:53,933 --> 01:52:57,213
Speaker 3: Tough out there, just booming away and a hole hoping

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Speaker 3: a lady will turn up. Actually, a lot of us

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Speaker 3: experience that in our own homes, even when we have

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01:53:04,372 --> 01:53:11,893
Speaker 3: a lady, there's booming away hoping for some attention. Congratulations

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01:53:11,933 --> 01:53:15,253
Speaker 3: him my taste of kew we God bless in God's feeds.

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01:53:16,532 --> 01:53:21,612
Speaker 2: Boom boom boom, any ladies, anyone can.

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Speaker 1: Mad and Tyler Adams the big stories, the big issues,

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01:53:29,093 --> 01:53:32,333
Speaker 1: the big trends, and everything in between. Matt Heath and

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01:53:32,333 --> 01:53:36,452
Speaker 1: Tyler Adams afternoons used talk ZEDB News talk z EDB.

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01:53:37,093 --> 01:53:40,492
Speaker 2: That is about us for today. Thank you very much

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01:53:40,933 --> 01:53:44,213
Speaker 2: for all your memories and phone calls and messages about us,

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Speaker 2: Sir Bob Jones, it was something we weren't expecting to

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01:53:47,732 --> 01:53:51,412
Speaker 2: do on today's show. Obviously an icon, very sad, but

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01:53:51,532 --> 01:53:52,612
Speaker 2: some incredible stories.

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01:53:52,692 --> 01:53:55,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed my dealings with Bob Jones over

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01:53:55,893 --> 01:54:00,132
Speaker 3: the years. A very strong personality, very cheeky, very funny,

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Speaker 3: very smart and look I'm just looking at this picture here,

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01:54:05,372 --> 01:54:10,852
Speaker 3: which is ZB host laid Bob Jones on in a

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01:54:10,893 --> 01:54:11,572
Speaker 3: TV drummer?

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01:54:11,973 --> 01:54:15,012
Speaker 2: Oh who is See's one of the hosts.

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01:54:15,133 --> 01:54:18,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'll put you out he misery. I'm just

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01:54:18,853 --> 01:54:21,612
Speaker 3: looking at a picture of a very handsome Tim Beverage.

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Speaker 2: He would have played a great super Bowl fantastic. Hey,

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01:54:26,572 --> 01:54:29,293
Speaker 2: thank you to everybody for this week. We will do

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Speaker 2: it all again next week.

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01:54:30,933 --> 01:54:33,012
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks so much for listening to you, great New Zealanders.

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01:54:33,013 --> 01:54:35,053
Speaker 3: A complete Matt and Tyler Affnoons pod will be out

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01:54:35,093 --> 01:54:37,573
Speaker 3: in about half an hour on iHeartRadio. We've got some

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01:54:37,693 --> 01:54:40,693
Speaker 3: couple of great chats with Barry Soper and Jeremy Wells

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01:54:40,733 --> 01:54:45,253
Speaker 3: reminiscing on Bob Jones. The Great and Powerful Heather Duplessy

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01:54:45,333 --> 01:54:49,012
Speaker 3: Eleanor is up next until Monday. Wherever you are, whatever

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01:54:49,013 --> 01:54:51,653
Speaker 3: you're doing, have a great weekend and give him a

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01:54:51,653 --> 01:54:52,573
Speaker 3: taste of Kewy from.

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Speaker 14: Us last.

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Speaker 26: At a nun Power.

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Speaker 1: For more from News talkst B, listen live on air

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Speaker 1: or online, and keep our shows with you wherever you

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Speaker 1: go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.