1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Hugh Jackman Kate Hudson new movie for Neil Diamond fans. Obviously, 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: they star as Mike and Clear Sadina who are Lightning 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: and Thunder, a group Lightning and Thunder. It's a duo 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: Neil Diamond tribute act. Get some attention to Milwaukee now. 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: The movie itself is based on a documentary of the couple. 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: It was called Song Sung Blue that came out in 7 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. It's a story of hope amidst 8 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: a tragic love story, generating Oscar buzz and d four 9 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Hudson herself and her role. Anyway, Hugh Jackman Kate Hudson 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: are with us. Good morning, Good. 11 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: Morning, morning mate. 12 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Now correct me if I'm wrong, Kate, you two didn't 13 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: know each other before this project. 14 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: Not really. 15 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 3: We had met a couple times, but we had we 16 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 3: didn't really know each other. Now. 17 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: So having said that, what's the creative risk you rickon 18 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: of putting two people together in these roles that you 19 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: two have if you don't know each other really well? 20 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: I will let Hugh answer this because I said it 21 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:50,319 Speaker 2: to Hugh. 22 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 23 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 5: On day one, Kate said to me, you know, if 24 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 5: we don't work this movie, doesn't work, and. 25 00:00:58,960 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 4: She was right. 26 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 5: But I I had a lot of confidence because it 27 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 5: was it was Michelle, my friend, who said, you watching 28 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 5: CBS Sunday, and I said, Kate Hudson has done an 29 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 5: album and there's a great story about her and I 30 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 5: and she should play Claire. 31 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 4: And I went and I turned on. It was like 32 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 4: as soon as she said, I was like yeah. 33 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 5: And then I turned it on and I watched it. 34 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 5: I'm like, I could just see it and i'd met, 35 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 5: we'd actually met. We've done like a reading of something, 36 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 5: so we'd met a little bit along the way. But 37 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 5: I had a sense. So I had a strong sense 38 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 5: that it was going to be great, but I didn't 39 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 5: know it was going to be this great or this easy, Mike, 40 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 5: if I'm honest, So. 41 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: Kate, when it clicked for you, I mean, basically, how 42 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: did you know? Was it instant? 43 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 3: I mean yes, But I have to say, I mean, 44 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: I don't mean to I don't want this to sound reductive, 45 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 3: because it wasn't. But when we kissed, I have to say, 46 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 3: it was It's like we've we'd been kissing each. 47 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: Other for years. It was the easiest kiss and kissing 48 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: the whole it was like it was like he was 49 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: my husband. 50 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: But I think part of that started when we, you know, 51 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 3: started to get to know each other. My thing with him, 52 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 3: which was really important to me. It's like, you know, 53 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 3: we have to I also wanted Hugh. I didn't know Hugh, 54 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: so I was like, I'm very tactile and I want 55 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: to get to know you, and if I ever weared 56 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: you out, you know. 57 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: Just let me know. 58 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: Found out that we're very similar, connective people and very open. 59 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: We found each other really really like transitional time in 60 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 3: our lives spiritually, and I think it just opened us 61 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: up to each other. And it was like, I know 62 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: this sounds silly a little bit, but it's like the 63 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: universe just sort of put. 64 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: Us exactly where we were supposed to be, and we 65 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 2: felt that immediately. 66 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 5: We said, although I might just remind you of that. 67 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 5: We were doing a scene and stopped to snow and 68 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 5: it was freezing and we it wasn't snowing on the 69 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 5: wide shot or on my close up, and then it 70 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 5: stopped to snow. We went we filmed it so beautiful, 71 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 5: and we went back and shot my side. So we're 72 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 5: out in the cold quite a long time, and you know, 73 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 5: when you get cold and you know it starts to run. 74 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 5: So I just remember after one of the kisses, this 75 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 5: was Kate's face. 76 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 4: I'm right, it was my nose running and go and 77 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 4: we had three more takes. 78 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: You like, you'll never look at me to say them again, 79 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: and I went, you're. 80 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 5: Right when you're going in for a kiss and it's 81 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 5: on camera but the woman's doing this. 82 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 4: Doesn't do a lot of your confidence, Mike. 83 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: Somebody I read a review suggested this could well be 84 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: your most ambitious role. Yet do you see it that way? 85 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 5: In many ways, I do. 86 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 4: I think it combines a lot of different things that 87 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 4: I do. 88 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 5: But in many ways it was asking things of me 89 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 5: that I hadn't done before, and so it was suited 90 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 5: to me. 91 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 4: I don't know about u, Kate, if you feel the same, 92 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 4: I always want to feel a little bit of a 93 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 4: I don't know if I can pull this off. Like 94 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 4: It's not like I want something like I. 95 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 5: Go, ah, I know exactly how to do this. I 96 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 5: want to dive into unknown waters a little bit. And 97 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 5: I think what's different about me now is I'm more 98 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 5: comfortable with not knowing how it's going to turn out 99 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 5: each scene each. 100 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 4: Day, or the movie and and going on with that ride. 101 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 5: And then that's for me. Back to your question, when 102 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 5: did I know? It was when I could communicate being vulnerable. 103 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 5: I'm not sure if I don't know how to do this, 104 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 5: and I could say it with my acting partner, with 105 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 5: my on you know, it was my colleague, and I 106 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 5: could just say the thing that I would normally have 107 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 5: kept to myself and ambitious for you too, Kate. 108 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: Oh. Always, I mean it's like it's like saying It's 109 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 3: like saying to a ballplayer, like do you want to 110 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 3: play in the major leagues or not? You know, you 111 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: dedicate your whole life to something. What are the things? 112 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: And who do you want to be playing with? 113 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: And what are the things? 114 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: You you know, it's like, no, I want, I want 115 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 3: the ninety I want the ninety six mile power, you know, fastball. 116 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: It's scary, but I want I want, I want in it. 117 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 3: And uh and I think that's what always it gets 118 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: exciting about these things. And for me, I those opportunities 119 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 3: don't come often, and and and and and to be honest, 120 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 3: they don't make movies like this very often, so I'm 121 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: so grateful. 122 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: And and and work. I love hard work. 123 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: And I like work that gives me a little of 124 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 3: the you know, the uh, the the you know, the butterflies, 125 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: and and and then my and then you know, and 126 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: and then also it's like then when you're in it 127 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 3: and you're you're sort of you know, leaning in, you're 128 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: just the commitment to it and the sort of like 129 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: having to let go and being uninhibited is a very 130 00:05:53,040 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: liberating feeling. And so yeah, yeah, definitely enjoy the ambition 131 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: and the fears and you know, the butterflies and not that. 132 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: Hugh the line about the movies. That was interesting. So 133 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: so I look at you, mister Wolverine, you know, and 134 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: I think to myself, that's modern movie making, isn't it 135 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: that sort of big picture, big budget whatever. But what 136 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: you've done here, I guess, is almost like movies of 137 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: the olden days. 138 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it does feel like that. And I've 139 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 5: both Kate and I have been a screening with some 140 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 5: people I don't name them without their permission, but people 141 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 5: big wigs in our business, and they're like, Ah, these 142 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 5: were the movie this is the movies we need, These 143 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 5: are the movies we used to make all the time. 144 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 4: This is this And it does have that feeling and 145 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 4: it's funny. There is a line in the movie about nostalgia. 146 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 4: There is something nostalgic about it. It's an everyday couple. 147 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 5: It's about some battler's you know, and seems like an 148 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 5: ordinary story, but it's actually so extraordinary within that. And 149 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 5: I have to tell you everybody turned the movie down. 150 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 5: Thirteen thirteen knows straight off, no way, Yeah, thirteen out 151 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 5: of thirteen. Actually, our producer John Davis has done one 152 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 5: hundred and seventeen movies. This is his number one, one 153 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 5: seven And he called in a favor. He just rang 154 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 5: Peter Kramer from Universe and said, you need to do me. 155 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,559 Speaker 5: Figures what is it, Johnny, guess you're gonna make this movie? 156 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 5: And he goes, I haven't read a guess, just say yes. 157 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 5: He goes, okay, And that's how made unreal. 158 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: Kate Kate, does it fit to sueduced? I mean, if 159 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: you look at so, this movie is the movie of 160 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: the documentary. The documentary is of real life. If you 161 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: had just simply written the plot with the details on 162 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: a piece of paper, there's no way you could have 163 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: got it past the studio, was there. 164 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't write it like what are you doing? 165 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: List said, this can't be real, like, you know, you 166 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: gotta let's let's. 167 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: Let's d it. Yeah, and then and and. 168 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: Boy is it real every every step of the way. 169 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: I mean, what a wild, fascinating, what crazy life Mike 170 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 3: and Claire lived. And even the whole the line, you know, 171 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: lightning can strike twice, you know, it's that the fact 172 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: that they lived through all of that is just pretty remarkable. 173 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: And makes for a great story, you know. 174 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: And I think that Craig honored that them so wonderfully 175 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: by by walking such a great line of never getting. 176 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,559 Speaker 2: Too far down that you can't get out. 177 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: And there's just he walks this sort of like line 178 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: of inspiration throughout the whole movie. 179 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 2: And I think, you know, the one, the one thing. 180 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: And I know he's watching, but like, if Mike could 181 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: see this movie, I mean it would just I feel 182 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: like I can see his face watching. 183 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 2: Its not bad. 184 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 5: I have a weed feeling. This is my feeling that 185 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 5: Mike the reason the movie is happening. He is Mike, Yeah, 186 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 5: likes that determination, like the never say no. 187 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 4: I don't care if they any studios have turned it down. 188 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 4: This movie's happening, and it's happened. 189 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: It's sort of his dedication, his dedication to his music, 190 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 3: his art, to Neil, to Claire, to the kids, taking 191 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: taking on those kids. You know, it's like he's so 192 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 3: he he was so dedicated. So yeah, that's the I 193 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: agree with you. It's like this idea that he is 194 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: the reason why this movie happened would make. 195 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: A lot of sense. 196 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 5: I just remember, I just remembered, Mike. I haven't shown 197 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 5: anyone this, but Claire Claire said. Claire gave me this 198 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 5: on the last and that's my actual hat from when 199 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 5: he went to see Neil Diamond. 200 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: Oh that's that's incredible. Well, I'll tell you what. From 201 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: what I'm reading, we've got some Mosco buzz about this 202 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: as well. So so thank you too for joining us. 203 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: Good to catch up and good luck with it all. 204 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: Thanks Mine Gidson, Hugh Jackman. That was as you probably 205 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: heard on zoom. So we'll whack that up on the 206 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: old Where do we wak that up on the zibbie, 207 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: on the Facebook, on the website, on the social media 208 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: stuff that's out there. It'll be bad. If you're under sixteen, 209 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: don't watch it. Oh that's Australia. 210 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 4: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast. 211 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,479 Speaker 5: Listen live to news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, 212 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 5: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio