1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:13,227 Speaker 1: from Newstalk zed B and every. 3 00:00:13,067 --> 00:00:14,787 Speaker 2: Couple of months we shared Jill in a chat with 4 00:00:14,827 --> 00:00:19,267 Speaker 2: New Zealand Rugby CEO Mark Robinson on various rugby issues 5 00:00:19,267 --> 00:00:21,507 Speaker 2: and there are a few around today's that day. Thanks 6 00:00:21,507 --> 00:00:24,427 Speaker 2: for your time, Mark, fresh chat this week, let's start 7 00:00:24,667 --> 00:00:29,027 Speaker 2: with this that France may send an under strength side 8 00:00:29,067 --> 00:00:32,067 Speaker 2: here next year for three test matches. In discussions with 9 00:00:32,147 --> 00:00:35,187 Speaker 2: your French counterparts, I know you've been chatting to them 10 00:00:35,187 --> 00:00:36,627 Speaker 2: over the last couple of days. Have you been able 11 00:00:36,667 --> 00:00:38,667 Speaker 2: to get any more clarity on this? 12 00:00:40,147 --> 00:00:42,627 Speaker 3: We get good after fine and hi to all the listeners. 13 00:00:43,107 --> 00:00:44,747 Speaker 4: Yeah, we were, as we said in a statement through 14 00:00:44,787 --> 00:00:48,707 Speaker 4: the week, we were a little bit surprised to find 15 00:00:48,747 --> 00:00:52,547 Speaker 4: this out earlier in the week, and so initially there's 16 00:00:52,547 --> 00:00:58,227 Speaker 4: a conversation with World Rugby around what, you know, what 17 00:00:58,387 --> 00:01:00,987 Speaker 4: what was happening with regards to this and checking in 18 00:01:00,987 --> 00:01:04,187 Speaker 4: on some of the some of the regulations, and then 19 00:01:04,267 --> 00:01:08,347 Speaker 4: as you said, head to chat with my French countercagn yesterday. Look, 20 00:01:08,427 --> 00:01:10,707 Speaker 4: they're going to have a think about where things are 21 00:01:10,707 --> 00:01:14,947 Speaker 4: at in relation to their position. But you know, I 22 00:01:14,947 --> 00:01:17,027 Speaker 4: think the key thing out of this is to recognize 23 00:01:17,027 --> 00:01:21,667 Speaker 4: that regardless of what happens through this process, is a 24 00:01:21,707 --> 00:01:23,467 Speaker 4: massive amount to look forward to for the fans for 25 00:01:23,507 --> 00:01:26,347 Speaker 4: next year in terms of the quality of position we're 26 00:01:26,347 --> 00:01:30,267 Speaker 4: going to face. France will still send, you know, incredibly 27 00:01:30,467 --> 00:01:33,507 Speaker 4: strong side. They've had great success in under twenty level 28 00:01:33,547 --> 00:01:35,067 Speaker 4: in recent years and clearly they're one. 29 00:01:34,947 --> 00:01:35,947 Speaker 3: Of the top teams in the world. 30 00:01:36,067 --> 00:01:38,907 Speaker 4: So that combined with South Africa at home and Australia 31 00:01:38,907 --> 00:01:40,627 Speaker 4: at home means that, you know, we're going to have 32 00:01:40,747 --> 00:01:41,787 Speaker 4: an incredible series. 33 00:01:41,787 --> 00:01:42,907 Speaker 3: But yeah, we've got a little. 34 00:01:42,667 --> 00:01:44,387 Speaker 4: Bit more work to do, Piney to st understand the 35 00:01:44,387 --> 00:01:47,227 Speaker 4: options here and let France come back to us after 36 00:01:47,587 --> 00:01:50,267 Speaker 4: only probably a fifteen twenty minute chat yesterday morning with 37 00:01:51,027 --> 00:01:51,507 Speaker 4: their CEO. 38 00:01:52,347 --> 00:01:54,707 Speaker 2: I think we would love to see Antoine de Pont here, right, 39 00:01:54,707 --> 00:01:56,427 Speaker 2: We'd all love to see, you know, a player of 40 00:01:56,427 --> 00:01:58,747 Speaker 2: his caliber and others in that French team come down. 41 00:01:59,307 --> 00:02:03,227 Speaker 2: Do World Rugby have any rules around making yourself available 42 00:02:03,267 --> 00:02:05,427 Speaker 2: at certain times for national tours? 43 00:02:06,387 --> 00:02:10,667 Speaker 4: Our Regulation nine, you know, sets out the windows where 44 00:02:12,507 --> 00:02:17,627 Speaker 4: we hope that all national unions treat with respect in 45 00:02:17,707 --> 00:02:20,227 Speaker 4: terms of making sure that teams are at full strength 46 00:02:21,107 --> 00:02:23,467 Speaker 4: when they tour different destinations. 47 00:02:23,507 --> 00:02:25,667 Speaker 3: So that's obviously one and a few. 48 00:02:25,467 --> 00:02:27,787 Speaker 4: Other things that we just need to check in and 49 00:02:27,387 --> 00:02:32,267 Speaker 4: to understand here before we have further discussions. But you know, 50 00:02:32,267 --> 00:02:34,587 Speaker 4: I think by and large we've all got to respect 51 00:02:34,627 --> 00:02:36,867 Speaker 4: that when we look at Ireland here in twenty twenty two, 52 00:02:36,947 --> 00:02:40,267 Speaker 4: we look at England here this year, both you know, 53 00:02:40,387 --> 00:02:44,707 Speaker 4: took fantastic approaches to touring with full strength sides. Certainly 54 00:02:45,307 --> 00:02:47,627 Speaker 4: the Nation's Cup, which have been working on. One of 55 00:02:47,667 --> 00:02:51,147 Speaker 4: the way, as you mentioned, sets up a competition in 56 00:02:51,227 --> 00:02:55,467 Speaker 4: July and November where you know, every every international team 57 00:02:55,507 --> 00:02:58,467 Speaker 4: will be encouraged to be sending their best teams to 58 00:02:58,587 --> 00:03:01,147 Speaker 4: compete for what's going to be a highly regarded and 59 00:03:01,227 --> 00:03:04,467 Speaker 4: highly contested competition. So so yeah, there are some things 60 00:03:04,867 --> 00:03:06,707 Speaker 4: in play around that, but like a lot of things 61 00:03:06,707 --> 00:03:09,267 Speaker 4: on the international game and then the different forums were working, 62 00:03:09,827 --> 00:03:12,547 Speaker 4: you know, there are processes and compromises to work through. 63 00:03:13,067 --> 00:03:16,107 Speaker 2: All right, let's hope for some clarity and some positivity 64 00:03:16,107 --> 00:03:19,947 Speaker 2: around that when discussions continue. Sounds like you're also close 65 00:03:19,987 --> 00:03:23,347 Speaker 2: to signing off on a three test, eight match tour 66 00:03:23,387 --> 00:03:25,627 Speaker 2: of South Africa twenty twenty six. Can you give us 67 00:03:25,827 --> 00:03:26,667 Speaker 2: any update there? 68 00:03:27,667 --> 00:03:30,907 Speaker 4: Yeah, we are, we're making really good progress Piney. We 69 00:03:30,987 --> 00:03:33,987 Speaker 4: obviously had I was in Southacra, South Africa for about 70 00:03:33,987 --> 00:03:39,307 Speaker 4: ten days around the two test matches, and definitely there's 71 00:03:39,347 --> 00:03:42,867 Speaker 4: been some really good advancement with that. There's just a 72 00:03:42,867 --> 00:03:45,427 Speaker 4: few things to work for around you know, the commercial 73 00:03:45,507 --> 00:03:48,987 Speaker 4: arrangements and the final schedule, but i'd like to think, 74 00:03:49,027 --> 00:03:51,667 Speaker 4: you know, getting closer closer to that in the coming 75 00:03:51,667 --> 00:03:53,747 Speaker 4: weeks and you know, maybe up to six to eight 76 00:03:53,787 --> 00:03:54,427 Speaker 4: weeks sort of thing. 77 00:03:54,627 --> 00:03:56,947 Speaker 2: How about that affect the Rugby Championship. 78 00:03:57,347 --> 00:04:01,227 Speaker 4: Well, we're working on different models for that with Australia 79 00:04:01,227 --> 00:04:04,187 Speaker 4: and Argentina at the moment, and that's in time. That 80 00:04:04,227 --> 00:04:08,427 Speaker 4: will probably be more for standarda coming time, you know, 81 00:04:08,467 --> 00:04:12,667 Speaker 4: when when everything's finalized. But we certainly, you know, want 82 00:04:12,707 --> 00:04:15,187 Speaker 4: to make sure that our partners in the sansar JV 83 00:04:15,467 --> 00:04:19,387 Speaker 4: have great schedules and great competition and there's a whole 84 00:04:19,467 --> 00:04:22,507 Speaker 4: range of different things being talked about about there in 85 00:04:22,507 --> 00:04:26,267 Speaker 4: twenty six and twenty thirty. Obviously twenty twenty six are 86 00:04:26,307 --> 00:04:30,107 Speaker 4: in twenty thirty will obviously be you know, more change 87 00:04:30,107 --> 00:04:32,707 Speaker 4: than maybe some of those intervening years where some of 88 00:04:32,707 --> 00:04:34,507 Speaker 4: the previous models are being looked at as well as 89 00:04:34,507 --> 00:04:38,307 Speaker 4: some other concepts around touring, and you know, we just 90 00:04:38,307 --> 00:04:39,907 Speaker 4: need a little bit more time on that. In twenty 91 00:04:39,907 --> 00:04:43,027 Speaker 4: twenty six and twenty thirty, maybe there's a possibility to 92 00:04:43,667 --> 00:04:46,747 Speaker 4: include other nations, a lot of the likes of you know, 93 00:04:46,787 --> 00:04:50,627 Speaker 4: maybe Fiji in Japan, and there's also the possibilities of 94 00:04:50,667 --> 00:04:52,227 Speaker 4: us still playing regular. 95 00:04:51,987 --> 00:04:53,387 Speaker 3: Fictures, especially like the BUSTERESSWWS. 96 00:04:53,467 --> 00:04:56,667 Speaker 4: So there's in our mind when you combine you know, 97 00:04:56,707 --> 00:04:59,667 Speaker 4: those tour concepts what we're looking to finalize with the 98 00:05:00,067 --> 00:05:04,587 Speaker 4: Rugby Championship as well as the two lines tours are 99 00:05:04,627 --> 00:05:07,587 Speaker 4: World Cup in this part of the world and in 100 00:05:07,627 --> 00:05:09,347 Speaker 4: the Club World Cup. But we're working on to twenty 101 00:05:09,387 --> 00:05:11,787 Speaker 4: twenty eight. There's still a massive amount of opportunity for 102 00:05:12,547 --> 00:05:15,027 Speaker 4: fans and a lot of excitement for people on this 103 00:05:15,107 --> 00:05:16,267 Speaker 4: part of the world to follow rugby. 104 00:05:16,387 --> 00:05:18,827 Speaker 2: Are you suggesting that Japan or Fiji might replace the 105 00:05:18,867 --> 00:05:20,347 Speaker 2: All Blacks in the Rugby Championship. 106 00:05:21,227 --> 00:05:22,187 Speaker 3: No, no, no, not at all. 107 00:05:22,227 --> 00:05:24,227 Speaker 4: I'm just saying that in some of those weeks where 108 00:05:25,507 --> 00:05:28,987 Speaker 4: we are where in twenty six and twenty thirty, there 109 00:05:29,067 --> 00:05:31,427 Speaker 4: might be the possibilities for them to be involved in 110 00:05:31,707 --> 00:05:33,587 Speaker 4: fixed as that's to be works for I guess. I mean, 111 00:05:34,427 --> 00:05:37,067 Speaker 4: you've got to realize that in twenty twenty six of 112 00:05:37,187 --> 00:05:40,987 Speaker 4: the Nation's Cup begins, is a possibility that countries like 113 00:05:41,747 --> 00:05:45,307 Speaker 4: Fiji and Japan will be involved at international, top tier 114 00:05:45,387 --> 00:05:48,787 Speaker 4: international level already, so you know, a natural extinctionion of 115 00:05:48,827 --> 00:05:52,627 Speaker 4: that in years such as South Africa All Blacks tours, 116 00:05:52,627 --> 00:05:54,027 Speaker 4: they might be other opportunities as well. 117 00:05:54,467 --> 00:05:56,787 Speaker 2: Are we going to see an ANZAC Dave Bledislow Cup 118 00:05:56,827 --> 00:05:57,747 Speaker 2: test moving forward? 119 00:05:58,627 --> 00:05:58,787 Speaker 1: Oh? 120 00:05:58,867 --> 00:06:01,187 Speaker 3: Look, we're you know, we remain open minded on it. 121 00:06:01,227 --> 00:06:07,267 Speaker 4: We you know, we certainly had a lot of good 122 00:06:07,267 --> 00:06:10,747 Speaker 4: time in Australia when I was in Sydney for the 123 00:06:10,787 --> 00:06:13,187 Speaker 4: Blederslow One this year to talk through some of those things, 124 00:06:13,227 --> 00:06:14,707 Speaker 4: and we just need a little bit more time with that. 125 00:06:14,787 --> 00:06:17,227 Speaker 3: There's there's obviously some potential. 126 00:06:17,707 --> 00:06:20,667 Speaker 4: Impacts to think about as it relates to Super rugby, 127 00:06:22,187 --> 00:06:24,667 Speaker 4: and we just need to understand like a lot of 128 00:06:24,707 --> 00:06:30,747 Speaker 4: these things, the commercial model, the playwell fare considerations and 129 00:06:30,747 --> 00:06:33,587 Speaker 4: how it fits into the overall calendar. So we had 130 00:06:33,587 --> 00:06:35,827 Speaker 4: a really good discussion about it. There seems to be 131 00:06:37,067 --> 00:06:41,307 Speaker 4: certainly some fan interest and following you things like social 132 00:06:41,347 --> 00:06:43,187 Speaker 4: media and media and that sort of thing, so so 133 00:06:43,187 --> 00:06:44,747 Speaker 4: we just need a little bit more time on that tinting. 134 00:06:45,787 --> 00:06:49,787 Speaker 2: Is this in a way plicating Australia given the fact 135 00:06:49,827 --> 00:06:51,627 Speaker 2: he might be touring South Africa by the looks of it, 136 00:06:51,707 --> 00:06:55,587 Speaker 2: so you know, maybe less Rugby Championship content for example. 137 00:06:55,707 --> 00:06:58,427 Speaker 2: Is this the way of applicating the Australians by saying, okay, 138 00:06:58,427 --> 00:07:01,107 Speaker 2: we'll play a Bledisloe Cup Test on Anzagg Day as 139 00:07:01,147 --> 00:07:05,827 Speaker 2: a as a quid pro quoil or similar No, I. 140 00:07:05,747 --> 00:07:06,187 Speaker 3: Don't think so. 141 00:07:06,227 --> 00:07:10,467 Speaker 4: I mean we're we're working through an arrangement in the 142 00:07:10,587 --> 00:07:13,627 Speaker 4: current work with stands that we would continue to play 143 00:07:14,147 --> 00:07:16,507 Speaker 4: the two Bleederson matches that we do at present, you know, 144 00:07:16,547 --> 00:07:21,227 Speaker 4: going forward, the two matches we play currently around the 145 00:07:21,387 --> 00:07:26,027 Speaker 4: Rugby Championship. I think, you know, this is something new 146 00:07:26,067 --> 00:07:29,667 Speaker 4: and interesting that clearly is is resonated with fans. It's 147 00:07:29,667 --> 00:07:33,747 Speaker 4: a it's a really important date in both the New 148 00:07:33,867 --> 00:07:37,067 Speaker 4: Zealand and Australian calendars, and it's it's something that is 149 00:07:37,107 --> 00:07:40,587 Speaker 4: certainly worth consideration of its own merits. 150 00:07:40,907 --> 00:07:43,107 Speaker 2: What have you made of the All Blacks first nine 151 00:07:43,187 --> 00:07:44,747 Speaker 2: Test matches under Scott Robertson. 152 00:07:46,627 --> 00:07:50,547 Speaker 4: I look overall the direction of Trevor we're really encouraged by. 153 00:07:50,627 --> 00:07:53,707 Speaker 4: But you know, as a team, as a razor and 154 00:07:54,187 --> 00:07:57,627 Speaker 4: teams acknowledge. You know, no one around the all Blacks 155 00:07:57,667 --> 00:08:01,507 Speaker 4: are in the organization likes to lose, and there's clearly 156 00:08:01,547 --> 00:08:04,307 Speaker 4: some disappointment there. But overall, when you think of the 157 00:08:04,387 --> 00:08:06,387 Speaker 4: you know, the change you've had in management and and 158 00:08:07,387 --> 00:08:09,867 Speaker 4: and the playing group, and you combine that with an 159 00:08:09,867 --> 00:08:12,067 Speaker 4: extremely tough schedule when you look at you know where 160 00:08:12,067 --> 00:08:15,027 Speaker 4: we're where we've toured in terms of South Africa, England 161 00:08:15,067 --> 00:08:19,147 Speaker 4: at home, a top sort of five team, a team 162 00:08:19,147 --> 00:08:21,027 Speaker 4: in the world as well, and then the kind of 163 00:08:21,067 --> 00:08:22,107 Speaker 4: end of the year two we've got. 164 00:08:22,707 --> 00:08:25,147 Speaker 3: Overall, we're really encouraged by the unknowthing of. 165 00:08:26,627 --> 00:08:31,307 Speaker 4: Some really really great young talent. Definitely some you know, 166 00:08:31,387 --> 00:08:33,427 Speaker 4: I think everyone can see the progression in the in 167 00:08:33,467 --> 00:08:36,587 Speaker 4: the game of the team. So so overall we're pretty happy. 168 00:08:36,627 --> 00:08:39,267 Speaker 4: But always as there are in all of our teams 169 00:08:39,267 --> 00:08:40,947 Speaker 4: and Black Environce has always work to do and they're 170 00:08:40,947 --> 00:08:43,747 Speaker 4: always really demanding, so we'll just keep supporting them all 171 00:08:43,747 --> 00:08:46,267 Speaker 4: we can. But you know, absolutely we think it's been 172 00:08:46,267 --> 00:08:47,667 Speaker 4: a pretty slid start a. 173 00:08:47,667 --> 00:08:50,187 Speaker 2: Year out from their World Cup. How worried should we be? 174 00:08:50,227 --> 00:08:51,427 Speaker 2: About the black foods. 175 00:08:53,027 --> 00:08:53,707 Speaker 3: Oh look, I. 176 00:08:53,627 --> 00:08:55,907 Speaker 4: Think you know when we when we saw the game, 177 00:08:56,747 --> 00:08:58,827 Speaker 4: I was up twicking them for the game against England 178 00:08:58,867 --> 00:09:01,387 Speaker 4: and there were some really encouraging signs here as well. 179 00:09:01,427 --> 00:09:03,627 Speaker 4: I think everyone would acknowledge she's been some really positive 180 00:09:03,627 --> 00:09:06,867 Speaker 4: shifts in large you know, many a speaks of the 181 00:09:07,547 --> 00:09:11,227 Speaker 4: of the player of the team, and clearly the game 182 00:09:11,227 --> 00:09:14,147 Speaker 4: against Ireland was a disappointment again the senior players and 183 00:09:14,187 --> 00:09:18,387 Speaker 4: Allen clearly frustrated by that. But I think again the 184 00:09:18,427 --> 00:09:22,427 Speaker 4: overall trajectory, we're still you know, twelve months or so 185 00:09:22,547 --> 00:09:25,667 Speaker 4: to go again, emergence of a lot of good young talent, 186 00:09:25,787 --> 00:09:29,867 Speaker 4: a full Super Rugby O picking season in front of us, 187 00:09:29,907 --> 00:09:32,787 Speaker 4: and two more tough, tough tests in coming days. We 188 00:09:32,947 --> 00:09:36,227 Speaker 4: still think are preparing well. But yeah, there'll be you know, 189 00:09:36,227 --> 00:09:37,987 Speaker 4: when the team gets home, we will have to take 190 00:09:37,987 --> 00:09:40,907 Speaker 4: the time to review those you know, this campaign and 191 00:09:40,987 --> 00:09:43,507 Speaker 4: understand how we can help them to improve going into 192 00:09:43,507 --> 00:09:43,947 Speaker 4: next year. 193 00:09:43,987 --> 00:09:46,187 Speaker 2: All right, a couple of water issues. Where are we 194 00:09:46,267 --> 00:09:50,067 Speaker 2: with the twenty minute red card and international rugby? 195 00:09:51,947 --> 00:09:55,107 Speaker 4: We hope that will go back to council with World 196 00:09:55,187 --> 00:09:58,787 Speaker 4: Rugby in mid November for a vote. At that stage, 197 00:10:00,147 --> 00:10:02,267 Speaker 4: you know, I think there's been there's been some countries 198 00:10:02,347 --> 00:10:05,307 Speaker 4: and in one in particular in France obviously, who are 199 00:10:05,747 --> 00:10:08,467 Speaker 4: very clear of the of news. But I think overall 200 00:10:08,987 --> 00:10:11,187 Speaker 4: there seems to be an acknowledgment that it would be 201 00:10:11,227 --> 00:10:12,507 Speaker 4: a good thing for the game, and there's a couple 202 00:10:12,507 --> 00:10:16,987 Speaker 4: actually sort of small alterations being looked at to give 203 00:10:17,267 --> 00:10:19,987 Speaker 4: confidence to more nations around the world. That's the right 204 00:10:20,027 --> 00:10:22,387 Speaker 4: thing for the game. But again we just have to 205 00:10:22,947 --> 00:10:24,507 Speaker 4: work through that when we get up into the Northern 206 00:10:24,507 --> 00:10:25,907 Speaker 4: hemisphere in November. 207 00:10:26,947 --> 00:10:29,667 Speaker 2: The process for the appointment of the new New Zealand 208 00:10:29,747 --> 00:10:32,147 Speaker 2: Rugby board, I see there were some updates on that yesterday, 209 00:10:32,187 --> 00:10:35,987 Speaker 2: with Dame Patsy already confirming she won't restand. We have 210 00:10:36,467 --> 00:10:39,427 Speaker 2: a process for the appointment of a new board, hopefully 211 00:10:39,467 --> 00:10:41,827 Speaker 2: before the end of the year. Is this something you 212 00:10:41,867 --> 00:10:44,747 Speaker 2: just keep an eye on you work in the operational space, 213 00:10:44,747 --> 00:10:47,747 Speaker 2: obviously this is a board thing. Do you have any 214 00:10:47,947 --> 00:10:49,347 Speaker 2: involvement in this at all? 215 00:10:50,307 --> 00:10:53,627 Speaker 3: No? No, I don't. Yeah. 216 00:10:53,627 --> 00:10:58,267 Speaker 4: There's a governance and stakeholder panel set up to help 217 00:10:58,827 --> 00:11:03,427 Speaker 4: support the appointment of a appointments. 218 00:11:03,507 --> 00:11:05,667 Speaker 3: And remuneration to many which sort of. 219 00:11:05,747 --> 00:11:10,587 Speaker 4: A selects the the board and I'm not involved in 220 00:11:10,587 --> 00:11:11,507 Speaker 4: any of those discussions. 221 00:11:11,747 --> 00:11:15,747 Speaker 2: Have you read Johnny Sixton's book, No, I haven't. 222 00:11:15,787 --> 00:11:18,347 Speaker 3: I there's a bit of noise about that through the week. 223 00:11:18,387 --> 00:11:21,907 Speaker 4: I'm sure he's sold a few more, few more versions 224 00:11:21,907 --> 00:11:24,027 Speaker 4: of it as a result of the you know, the 225 00:11:24,627 --> 00:11:27,307 Speaker 4: going between him and him and Rico. But oh, look, 226 00:11:27,347 --> 00:11:29,507 Speaker 4: you know, I think to some media early in the 227 00:11:29,547 --> 00:11:31,947 Speaker 4: week where I just said this is this has been 228 00:11:32,147 --> 00:11:34,107 Speaker 4: rightly or wrongly. It's been part of the game for 229 00:11:33,867 --> 00:11:37,107 Speaker 4: a for a long time, and I think, you know, 230 00:11:37,147 --> 00:11:40,227 Speaker 4: normally it's certainly left on the field. Clearly, you know 231 00:11:40,987 --> 00:11:43,027 Speaker 4: that's not the case this time around. But you know, 232 00:11:43,067 --> 00:11:44,947 Speaker 4: we we we don't really get involved in it too much. 233 00:11:44,947 --> 00:11:46,627 Speaker 4: It's certainly been great for the fans to sort of 234 00:11:46,667 --> 00:11:49,427 Speaker 4: speculate on and have your views on. And it's just 235 00:11:49,467 --> 00:11:51,587 Speaker 4: another one of the interesting stories going on around the 236 00:11:51,587 --> 00:11:52,067 Speaker 4: game at present. 237 00:11:52,267 --> 00:11:54,307 Speaker 2: All right, and your Amber and Black should beloved. Amber 238 00:11:54,347 --> 00:11:56,427 Speaker 2: and Black's have a crack at winning the Loger woolf Tasman. 239 00:11:56,587 --> 00:11:58,347 Speaker 2: I think most people want it to stay in Tasman, 240 00:11:58,387 --> 00:11:58,827 Speaker 2: don't they. 241 00:11:58,947 --> 00:12:02,827 Speaker 3: MA, Well, yeah, I've had a couple of people tipped 242 00:12:02,827 --> 00:12:04,107 Speaker 3: me away through the week about why the. 243 00:12:04,027 --> 00:12:06,027 Speaker 4: Barrett Boys up playing and I sort of said on 244 00:12:06,067 --> 00:12:07,747 Speaker 4: a little bit more removed it from that, go and 245 00:12:07,827 --> 00:12:10,267 Speaker 4: go and talk to raise us. So look, it's great, 246 00:12:10,307 --> 00:12:12,907 Speaker 4: isn't There's been some amazing scenes down in the in 247 00:12:12,987 --> 00:12:16,787 Speaker 4: the top of the South through the year, and you know, 248 00:12:16,827 --> 00:12:19,827 Speaker 4: we're delighted to see so much passion around the competitions 249 00:12:19,947 --> 00:12:22,787 Speaker 4: voice here. It's got very pivotal part in the game 250 00:12:22,827 --> 00:12:24,667 Speaker 4: in New Zealand and it's just great to see so 251 00:12:24,787 --> 00:12:28,227 Speaker 4: much good coverage around it in great provincial rivalries and 252 00:12:28,267 --> 00:12:31,667 Speaker 4: some of those histories being brought to brought to life 253 00:12:31,547 --> 00:12:33,627 Speaker 4: in the community. So it's all good stuff. 254 00:12:33,907 --> 00:12:36,867 Speaker 2: Always appreciate your availability to me and too our audience. Mark, 255 00:12:36,947 --> 00:12:37,867 Speaker 2: enjoy the rest of your weekend. 256 00:12:38,107 --> 00:12:39,867 Speaker 3: Thanks, Bernie, take you you take care. 257 00:12:39,747 --> 00:12:42,707 Speaker 2: To Mark, Mark Robinson, then CEO of New Zealand Rugby. 258 00:12:43,467 --> 00:12:46,627 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 259 00:12:46,747 --> 00:12:50,027 Speaker 1: to News Talk zed B weekends from midday or follow 260 00:12:50,067 --> 00:12:51,707 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.