1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,787 Speaker 1: from News Talks, There'd be. 3 00:00:12,667 --> 00:00:15,867 Speaker 2: Of rugby's newest arrival. Rees writes another chapter. Today the 4 00:00:15,867 --> 00:00:19,227 Speaker 2: Blues host Minor Pacifica at Eden Park. The Saturday Johinings 5 00:00:19,227 --> 00:00:23,587 Speaker 2: Now Blues fallback. Cole Forbes go, how are you? Did 6 00:00:23,627 --> 00:00:27,027 Speaker 2: you recover well from last week's niggle? Yeah? 7 00:00:27,187 --> 00:00:29,867 Speaker 3: That all well, got through training all good this week 8 00:00:29,907 --> 00:00:32,627 Speaker 3: and yeah, stoked to be back in the lineup to 9 00:00:32,827 --> 00:00:35,187 Speaker 3: take on the rivals. 10 00:00:35,267 --> 00:00:37,587 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we talk about a niggle? What what? How 11 00:00:37,707 --> 00:00:39,907 Speaker 2: big a niggle? I mean when you realize it was 12 00:00:39,987 --> 00:00:41,907 Speaker 2: only a little or did you freak out last week 13 00:00:41,947 --> 00:00:43,867 Speaker 2: and go this could be worse? Or what was the 14 00:00:43,907 --> 00:00:44,867 Speaker 2: deal around now? 15 00:00:46,187 --> 00:00:49,147 Speaker 3: Sort of just the rolled ankle in the Bumbies game 16 00:00:49,267 --> 00:00:53,787 Speaker 3: and then yeah, sort of, yeah, it wasn't too worried, 17 00:00:53,827 --> 00:00:55,907 Speaker 3: and then you got through back end and it was 18 00:00:55,947 --> 00:00:58,467 Speaker 3: still sort of not one hundred percent, so sort of 19 00:00:58,667 --> 00:01:01,027 Speaker 3: just have one week to rest it and then yeah, 20 00:01:01,067 --> 00:01:03,347 Speaker 3: get back to training this week and yeah all is 21 00:01:03,387 --> 00:01:04,707 Speaker 3: were so good to go. 22 00:01:04,747 --> 00:01:06,987 Speaker 2: Really, buddy, got a good thing. Isn't it not that 23 00:01:07,027 --> 00:01:08,467 Speaker 2: you want to miss out on a game, but just 24 00:01:08,507 --> 00:01:10,627 Speaker 2: to have that mental rest for a week give you, yeah, 25 00:01:10,667 --> 00:01:12,467 Speaker 2: a little bit of reving. When you get back in 26 00:01:12,467 --> 00:01:15,107 Speaker 2: there again, you make the most of that opportunity or 27 00:01:15,107 --> 00:01:16,147 Speaker 2: am I completely wrong? 28 00:01:17,307 --> 00:01:20,107 Speaker 3: Ah, yeah it is. It is a good mental rest, 29 00:01:20,147 --> 00:01:22,787 Speaker 3: but you're missing out on playing and seeing the boys 30 00:01:22,867 --> 00:01:26,427 Speaker 3: do that to the Crusaders always makes you happy. But yeah, 31 00:01:26,467 --> 00:01:28,907 Speaker 3: there's obviously a good mental reset, and there's a long season, 32 00:01:28,987 --> 00:01:32,267 Speaker 3: so I don't want anything to nip you in now 33 00:01:32,507 --> 00:01:33,627 Speaker 3: at the back end of the season. 34 00:01:33,867 --> 00:01:35,907 Speaker 2: So what did you pull out of that game? Obviously 35 00:01:35,947 --> 00:01:38,667 Speaker 2: went playing, but you would have been working on all 36 00:01:38,707 --> 00:01:41,867 Speaker 2: week with Vernon the like about what actually worked for 37 00:01:41,907 --> 00:01:44,827 Speaker 2: you against the Crusaders because you shop them and you 38 00:01:44,907 --> 00:01:45,827 Speaker 2: can tell. 39 00:01:47,667 --> 00:01:50,547 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you sort of know the Crusaders. Their 40 00:01:50,667 --> 00:01:53,387 Speaker 3: DNA is sort of take you to set peace and 41 00:01:53,427 --> 00:01:56,147 Speaker 3: then sort of win that like Highte Bettle in the 42 00:01:56,147 --> 00:01:59,387 Speaker 3: physical area of the game, and sort of we previews 43 00:01:59,387 --> 00:02:01,227 Speaker 3: that all week. We knew what was coming and sort 44 00:02:01,227 --> 00:02:05,107 Speaker 3: of just we knew after our sort of performance against 45 00:02:05,107 --> 00:02:07,387 Speaker 3: the Brumbies that we played well patches, but we didn't 46 00:02:07,747 --> 00:02:10,267 Speaker 3: string it together consistently. So the main goal was just 47 00:02:10,347 --> 00:02:13,747 Speaker 3: sort of nail our game plan in our DNA for 48 00:02:13,787 --> 00:02:16,227 Speaker 3: the whole eighty minutes. So I think we really did that, 49 00:02:16,267 --> 00:02:17,947 Speaker 3: and obviously the results showed on the weekend. 50 00:02:18,987 --> 00:02:21,747 Speaker 2: When you look to that success last week, that's all 51 00:02:21,787 --> 00:02:24,747 Speaker 2: well and good, but you're professional, so you'll dig through 52 00:02:24,867 --> 00:02:27,307 Speaker 2: the weeds of that and what didn't work and what 53 00:02:27,347 --> 00:02:29,987 Speaker 2: you have to improve on. Am I right? I'm sure 54 00:02:30,027 --> 00:02:32,987 Speaker 2: that Veron celebrated, but he looks one side of go Na. 55 00:02:33,067 --> 00:02:35,067 Speaker 2: But you need to do this better. Boys. 56 00:02:35,827 --> 00:02:38,827 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, like your team, you look at it and 57 00:02:38,947 --> 00:02:41,347 Speaker 3: obviously you want to get better than the following weekend. 58 00:02:41,347 --> 00:02:43,027 Speaker 3: I think a big one we've focused on this week 59 00:02:43,067 --> 00:02:46,867 Speaker 3: has been discipline. Sort of yellow cards against the brumby 60 00:02:46,907 --> 00:02:48,587 Speaker 3: there and the Crusaders have sort of hand put us. 61 00:02:48,627 --> 00:02:52,267 Speaker 3: That's when we've leaked our points. So big, big mark 62 00:02:52,347 --> 00:02:54,827 Speaker 3: on discipline this week, not giving away super penalties and 63 00:02:54,867 --> 00:02:56,827 Speaker 3: giving one or second chances. 64 00:02:57,947 --> 00:03:02,747 Speaker 2: It's a constant, isn't it. Coach is talking about discipline plainly, 65 00:03:02,787 --> 00:03:07,067 Speaker 2: it's a lot more difficult than people realize. Why do 66 00:03:07,107 --> 00:03:09,587 Speaker 2: you think it makes it such a stretch because guys 67 00:03:09,587 --> 00:03:12,387 Speaker 2: are always getting carded, and it happens right the way 68 00:03:12,387 --> 00:03:14,187 Speaker 2: through the season, and when people do, they go I 69 00:03:14,467 --> 00:03:16,947 Speaker 2: got carded, But we're going to watch our discipline. Why 70 00:03:17,027 --> 00:03:18,947 Speaker 2: is this? Why do you guys fall into this? 71 00:03:20,307 --> 00:03:23,107 Speaker 3: No, it is a cliche every coach, every team, you 72 00:03:23,147 --> 00:03:24,507 Speaker 3: talk about it, but I think it's just in the 73 00:03:24,507 --> 00:03:27,667 Speaker 3: heat of the moment. So you get those boys that 74 00:03:27,707 --> 00:03:29,947 Speaker 3: are sort of, oh, should I have a jack or 75 00:03:29,947 --> 00:03:31,347 Speaker 3: should I go at the ball? And you sort of 76 00:03:31,347 --> 00:03:32,667 Speaker 3: in the heat of the moment you make that flit 77 00:03:32,707 --> 00:03:35,227 Speaker 3: second decision and you look got it on the boots 78 00:03:35,307 --> 00:03:38,307 Speaker 3: and you're like, why did I do that? But I think, yeah, 79 00:03:38,347 --> 00:03:40,747 Speaker 3: it's just something you've got to I think that you've 80 00:03:40,747 --> 00:03:42,467 Speaker 3: got to train it. So you've got to be disciplined 81 00:03:42,467 --> 00:03:45,027 Speaker 3: at training because we've sort of noticed that we haven't 82 00:03:45,067 --> 00:03:47,067 Speaker 3: been as haarded on each other in training and then 83 00:03:47,107 --> 00:03:49,307 Speaker 3: it's creeping into the game. So I think there's sort 84 00:03:49,307 --> 00:03:51,507 Speaker 3: of been the shift this week, just sort of if 85 00:03:51,547 --> 00:03:53,587 Speaker 3: we're going to pull each other up and train, then 86 00:03:53,707 --> 00:03:55,067 Speaker 3: it's going to help us in the weekend. 87 00:03:55,507 --> 00:04:00,707 Speaker 2: What's your disciplinary record, like Cole, I. 88 00:04:00,707 --> 00:04:05,147 Speaker 3: Think I'm pretty squeaky clean. I've had a few yellow cards, 89 00:04:05,227 --> 00:04:08,427 Speaker 3: I think, but that's about nothing. The old typical outside 90 00:04:08,427 --> 00:04:11,107 Speaker 3: back slap down ones and that's yeah. I had a 91 00:04:11,147 --> 00:04:14,547 Speaker 3: couple of those, but nothing, nothing too bad, I don't think. 92 00:04:15,187 --> 00:04:18,747 Speaker 2: Not the problem right up in front what you are though, 93 00:04:18,827 --> 00:04:21,187 Speaker 2: there's a problem for Zarn Sullivan. He's been playing the 94 00:04:21,227 --> 00:04:23,027 Speaker 2: house down, but he's on the bench now that you've 95 00:04:23,027 --> 00:04:24,507 Speaker 2: come back. You got still mates. 96 00:04:25,827 --> 00:04:28,707 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's been playing really well. It's good to 97 00:04:28,707 --> 00:04:31,507 Speaker 3: see him healthy because he's had a few injuries the 98 00:04:31,587 --> 00:04:33,907 Speaker 3: last couple of seasons sort of just hindered him sometimes. 99 00:04:33,907 --> 00:04:35,347 Speaker 3: But it's really good to see him get in some 100 00:04:35,507 --> 00:04:37,787 Speaker 3: game time and it's got a huge left boot and 101 00:04:37,827 --> 00:04:39,987 Speaker 3: he's got their good running games, so it's been good 102 00:04:39,987 --> 00:04:42,547 Speaker 3: to see him playing. And then yeah, you've got Cody 103 00:04:42,587 --> 00:04:44,587 Speaker 3: Baier as well, also had a bloody good run on 104 00:04:44,627 --> 00:04:47,627 Speaker 3: the wing. So it's good, healthy competition in the back three. 105 00:04:47,987 --> 00:04:51,067 Speaker 2: It's exciting Blues Rugby. At the moment you'd be feeling 106 00:04:51,187 --> 00:04:53,747 Speaker 2: that energy. I mean, if you ever stop training or 107 00:04:53,907 --> 00:04:56,467 Speaker 2: like you know, stop eating, do you actually get the 108 00:04:56,507 --> 00:04:59,707 Speaker 2: idea around the general public that there's something happening. 109 00:05:00,987 --> 00:05:04,827 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that, Especially the last couple of home games, 110 00:05:04,867 --> 00:05:07,467 Speaker 3: there's been a good little buzz around them. You sort 111 00:05:07,467 --> 00:05:09,827 Speaker 3: of feel the atmosphere in the buzz before you're walking 112 00:05:09,827 --> 00:05:12,787 Speaker 3: in and stuff, and it has been noticeable, like good 113 00:05:12,827 --> 00:05:16,027 Speaker 3: crowds and everything. It's like the boys like you know, 114 00:05:16,027 --> 00:05:18,347 Speaker 3: you feed off that and sort of yeah, I wanted 115 00:05:18,387 --> 00:05:21,187 Speaker 3: to make a good run of the composition this year. 116 00:05:21,627 --> 00:05:23,787 Speaker 2: What's your drive for the season, Cole? What do you 117 00:05:23,867 --> 00:05:25,227 Speaker 2: look to achieve? What do you want to do, what 118 00:05:25,227 --> 00:05:26,467 Speaker 2: do you want to clean up? What do you want 119 00:05:26,467 --> 00:05:26,947 Speaker 2: to work with? 120 00:05:29,227 --> 00:05:31,907 Speaker 3: Definitely, I think every player was the win championship. So 121 00:05:32,107 --> 00:05:34,787 Speaker 3: that's probably our main goal as a group is when 122 00:05:35,067 --> 00:05:37,467 Speaker 3: you know, when the title and you know we've got 123 00:05:37,467 --> 00:05:39,347 Speaker 3: to definitely got a good squad and we're hitting in 124 00:05:39,387 --> 00:05:41,867 Speaker 3: the right direction. So I think there's nothing that nothing's 125 00:05:41,907 --> 00:05:42,427 Speaker 3: helping us. 126 00:05:42,427 --> 00:05:46,787 Speaker 2: Really just ourselves and your place, your place in this 127 00:05:46,867 --> 00:05:50,587 Speaker 2: whole structure. Where do you see you leading or assisting? 128 00:05:50,667 --> 00:05:54,947 Speaker 2: What does Carl Forbes need to do to help wrest 129 00:05:55,027 --> 00:05:57,827 Speaker 2: that title away from the Crusaders? 130 00:05:58,507 --> 00:06:01,827 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think just yeah, there's just nailing sort of 131 00:06:02,547 --> 00:06:04,347 Speaker 3: whatever my role is for the week of it's on 132 00:06:04,427 --> 00:06:06,547 Speaker 3: the wing of it, set fulbeck if it's on the beach, sure, 133 00:06:06,547 --> 00:06:09,747 Speaker 3: if it's in the non twenty three, just doing why 134 00:06:09,867 --> 00:06:12,147 Speaker 3: job each week and they you know, getting the boys 135 00:06:12,187 --> 00:06:14,347 Speaker 3: ready for however that may be, but I think, yeah, 136 00:06:14,507 --> 00:06:17,067 Speaker 3: we're hitting in the right direction, so I'm just going 137 00:06:17,107 --> 00:06:19,587 Speaker 3: to do what I can really to keep that winning 138 00:06:19,587 --> 00:06:20,147 Speaker 3: ways going. 139 00:06:20,707 --> 00:06:22,827 Speaker 2: You got a preference where do you like to play? 140 00:06:22,867 --> 00:06:24,187 Speaker 2: And I know what you're going to say, and so 141 00:06:24,467 --> 00:06:26,427 Speaker 2: as long as I'm playing on as long as I'm picked, 142 00:06:26,427 --> 00:06:29,067 Speaker 2: I don't mind. But really, we would you rather play? 143 00:06:30,587 --> 00:06:33,387 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, that cliche is definitely you'd rather be 144 00:06:33,427 --> 00:06:35,587 Speaker 3: in the starting line up than sitting in the stand, 145 00:06:35,627 --> 00:06:37,987 Speaker 3: So that, yeah, is probably the first one. And then yeah, 146 00:06:38,067 --> 00:06:42,147 Speaker 3: probably I've played predominantly of my career over at fullback, 147 00:06:42,427 --> 00:06:44,627 Speaker 3: I think, but in the last couple of seasons I've 148 00:06:44,627 --> 00:06:46,507 Speaker 3: had a decent amount of game time like on the 149 00:06:46,507 --> 00:06:50,387 Speaker 3: wing side, I'd say I probably prefer fullback, but enjoying 150 00:06:50,467 --> 00:06:52,827 Speaker 3: wing as well, you know, just cut like a little 151 00:06:52,827 --> 00:06:55,467 Speaker 3: bit different sort of styles but similar. 152 00:06:55,507 --> 00:06:57,707 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, do you dare think 153 00:06:57,747 --> 00:07:00,307 Speaker 2: about higher honors? 154 00:07:00,667 --> 00:07:03,547 Speaker 3: Ah? Personally, I think I'm just worried about making the 155 00:07:04,347 --> 00:07:06,827 Speaker 3: twenty three for the Blues at the moment. Like, like 156 00:07:06,867 --> 00:07:09,747 Speaker 3: you said, You've got Zion, Cody, y catle Clark and 157 00:07:09,867 --> 00:07:12,227 Speaker 3: a few boys waiting in the wings, so it's just 158 00:07:12,267 --> 00:07:16,827 Speaker 3: about getting some game time before you think about anything else. 159 00:07:17,227 --> 00:07:19,907 Speaker 2: And tell us about the approach to mourna Pacifika. They 160 00:07:19,947 --> 00:07:22,467 Speaker 2: can't explode into action and shred you with tries, but 161 00:07:22,507 --> 00:07:25,707 Speaker 2: they can also fold pretty fast. Where do you see 162 00:07:25,707 --> 00:07:27,827 Speaker 2: their weaknesses? Where do you see their strengths? 163 00:07:29,467 --> 00:07:32,227 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the strengths obvious. If you want to 164 00:07:32,227 --> 00:07:34,827 Speaker 3: make play a physical game for them, get their tails 165 00:07:34,907 --> 00:07:37,507 Speaker 3: up with winning collisions and sort of making it a 166 00:07:37,547 --> 00:07:41,027 Speaker 3: scrappy game of rugby. I think that's where they're strongest, 167 00:07:41,067 --> 00:07:44,547 Speaker 3: sort of. I think where they're probably not as strong 168 00:07:44,547 --> 00:07:46,347 Speaker 3: as probably we can take them in sort of those 169 00:07:46,827 --> 00:07:49,347 Speaker 3: set piece areas and keep the game sort of structured 170 00:07:49,427 --> 00:07:53,227 Speaker 3: and not kick away mindlessly kick away possession and give 171 00:07:53,267 --> 00:07:55,267 Speaker 3: them sort of easy into the game, so I think. 172 00:07:55,427 --> 00:07:58,387 Speaker 3: And then obviously like this just before our disciplined can 173 00:07:58,467 --> 00:08:01,467 Speaker 3: watch stuper penalties, we're going to be getting pegged back 174 00:08:01,547 --> 00:08:02,067 Speaker 3: quite a bit. 175 00:08:02,627 --> 00:08:06,947 Speaker 2: Well, I really thank you for joining us promises so much. 176 00:08:07,027 --> 00:08:10,827 Speaker 2: Let's hope that you stay high when you're defending. You 177 00:08:10,907 --> 00:08:13,587 Speaker 2: gether that ball because it's very much the flavor of 178 00:08:13,707 --> 00:08:16,667 Speaker 2: rugby these days, and make it really hard for Zan 179 00:08:16,747 --> 00:08:17,987 Speaker 2: Sullivan to get a spot. 180 00:08:18,027 --> 00:08:22,107 Speaker 3: That will you Cole uh oh do do my best 181 00:08:22,187 --> 00:08:24,027 Speaker 3: on defense and here we'll put on. 182 00:08:24,747 --> 00:08:27,347 Speaker 2: Yep get amongst it. Thanks very much for your time. 183 00:08:27,427 --> 00:08:32,587 Speaker 2: That game gets on away at three forty five, No, 184 00:08:32,747 --> 00:08:36,227 Speaker 2: three point thirty five, excuse me, Cole Forbes, thanks very 185 00:08:36,267 --> 00:08:36,867 Speaker 2: much for your time. 186 00:08:37,467 --> 00:08:40,667 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 187 00:08:40,787 --> 00:08:44,067 Speaker 1: to news talks it'd be weekends from midday, or follow 188 00:08:44,107 --> 00:08:45,707 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio